‘We a people who give children life, not who destroys them.’
by Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE)Fifty years ago, Lorraine Hansberry became the first African-American woman to produce a Broadway play, with her timeless and iconic A Raisin in the Sun. Theatergoers at the Ethel Barrymore were shocked, as the New York Times put it on March 12, 1959, by the play’s “vigor as well as veracity,” raving that Hansberry’s masterpiece was “likely to destroy the complacency of anyone who sees it.” Generations since have been stirred by the profundity with which Hansberry detailed the trials and triumphs inherent in the human condition and the strength of character, resiliency, and unbreakable spirit that define the American dream for even the poorest and most vulnerable among us. Yet there is one clear message that has been forgotten over the last half-century, as we are faced with a poverty much greater than Hansberry’s cast of characters could have ever imagined: the ravages of government-subsidized abortion has brought upon a decimated Black community.
Recently the Secretary of State appeared before the House Foreign Affairs Committee and confirmed it is the Administration’s goal of including abortion as an integral element of “reproductive health care” provided by the United States. In this context, I had the opportunity to raise concerns about her words of praise for Margaret Sanger, the notorious American racist who founded Planned Parenthood and advocated tirelessly for eugenic policies to eliminate persons she deemed inferior and unworthy to live.
Today, when twice as many Black children are eliminated through abortion than are born, Lena Younger’s stern words to her son, “We a people who give children life, not who destroys them,” evoke the strength, pride, and hope that characterized the soaring spirit of the civil rights movement. Her words should be lifted on billboards and sung through every corner of the world, but little mention is made of her stirring affirmation of life.
Instead, we continue to hear repugnant assaults on the dignity of minority populations reminiscent of Margaret Sanger, most recently from none other than Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I was shocked to learn that in a recent interview with the New York Times, Justice Ginsburg commented that: “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.”
Reflect for a minute on that: “populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
Incredibly, it appears eugenics is alive and well in our nation’s highest court.
This reprehensible statement deserves a strong public rebuke. It is unfathomable to me that today, a Justice of the United States Supreme Court would hold and admit to such a patently genocidal sentiment. Perhaps it is a sign of the times, a reflection of a society desperate for meaning.
Read A Raisin in the Sun. I think anyone can find that meaning in the words of Lena Younger, the great literary champion of the human spirit. We was going backwards ’stead of forwards–talking ’bout killing babies and wishing each other was dead…When it gets like that in life–you just got to do something different, push on out and do something bigger….” The “something bigger,” Lena’s great selfless gift of hope and love to her family, saved her grandchild. We, too, must aspire to something bigger. And I believe that we are big enough, and loving enough, as a nation to embrace the mother and her unborn child and truly care for life. It’s what Lena Younger would have done.





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The Democrats of the modern era have recreated almost exactly the conditions of slavery seen in the South before the Civil War. Blacks are largely kept socially and culturally segregated, they are given just enough education to make them useful to their masters, a chosen few are allowed positions of power as long as they keep the rest in line, the excess population is disposed of and the efforts of Blacks are used to keep elite White Democrats in power.
Do you really think anyone's buying your pose as Champion Of Black People here? Please. It's laughable. You're laughable. I'll believe Republicans in general, and you in specific, have a genuine concern when you start speaking on any issue of pressing relevance to black lives today. Black-on-black violence; homelessness & housing; drugs; racism; unemployment. But I'm not holding my breath. I most certainly am not.
So, the deliberate attempt to exterminate an entire race isn't a concern? Black-on-black violence, homelessness & housing, drugs, racism and unemployment ARE big concerns (you forgot education), but so are the deaths of millions of black babies along with people in power wanting that continued and increased.
Your posting is what's laughable here, too bad it wasn't funny.
Thanks for posting that, Congressman! I'd heard about A Raisin in the Sun, but didn't know anything about it. I'm going to have to read it, better yet, SEE it performed. It sounds wonderful.
Jane, ad hominem attacks are so immature. Are you unable to see the correlation between a lack of respect for the lives of the unborn, and a lack of respect for the lives of others or self? And if you really believe that only you and those of your ilk can care for "Black People", then try to explain to the world how your comments are *not* racism of the meanest, vilest sort.
" Black-on-black violence; homelessness & housing; drugs; racism; unemployment. "
All things that can be traced to legislation and policies enacted by democrats, whether you want to believe it or not. We don't look at things in terms of groups, but as individuals.
All the "relevent" topics you just mentioned would be eliminated or at the very least greatly lessened if people were encouraged to work for and earn whatever they wanted, instead of being made by democrats to feel (falsely) entitled or under attack by those of us that <gasp> are sick of giving hand outs in the form of our taxes, and are sick of guilt placed on us for things we haven't done in generations. Logically speaking, if we're working for what we want, why can't everyone else? If we're truly equals, why is it that everybody that claims to be in your corner are always telling you that you need help? Do you like being treated like an idiot? At what point in your life will you get up the courage to say "Back off, I can do this myself!" ?
If your answer wasn't so typical and saddening, I'd say you were the one that's laughable.
Black-on-black violence; homelessness & housing; drugs; racism; unemployment and AIDS are not the biggest killer of blacks today. Abortion is. And abortion is made cheap, easy and available to blacks especially, by none other than the Democratic party.
It is hard to argue that in the main, the Great Society has worked to the advantage of ANYONE in the US. Certainly, one can suggest that on average today's black american is way worse off than in the 1950s irrespective of the erasure of obvious racial discrimination. The black family unit used to be something we talked about, now it has become a joke, a remnant of the past.
I think this needs to be acknowledged, without casting blame. Govt has simply failed ALL of its citizens with the AA programs and other such programs. If you need proof, take a drive through the hood but keep your doors locked. If you need proof, review the prison and crime statistics.
Killing unborn children is certainly an appalling shame for a so-called civilized society. One could argue that is all one needs to know about us.
You don't get it and never will. The issues you raise have become worse due to the ill conceived "liberal" policies of the Great Society.
Yes, I know, all non-democrats are racsist, by definition.
Now you can go on your way, ignoring the continual decline of black american society.
Jane… according to your logic, to comment about abortion of a black person (that's right, person) you have to be black. I think you might know where I'm going with this. Do you have to be white to comment on white people?
If your dead, you can't tackle any problem let alone homelessness, housing, drugs, or prejudices like yours. What you missed completely from Jeff Fortenberry was his thoughtful and historically specific comments about M. Sanger & Justice Ginsberg and his artistic praises of such a timeless and powerful work. Fortenberry, unlike some, includes every person into the human family.
Lets get real Jane.
Bruce Arlen
Abortion has contributed to the decline of the black family (and families of every other color) because it lets men off the hook. Why man up and assume responsibility for your babies when you can just fall back on "But I told her to get an abortion?"
Liberalism at work, ladies and gentlemen, genocide for the health of the hive, generational servitude with no end in sight. How’s that “hope and change” working out for you?”
Do you have to be white to comment on white people?
It's actually vice versa. The only people who aren't permitted, by polite (read: Democrat) society, to talk about white people are white people who want to defend themselves against charges of racism.
Lets see, when I first read the Ginsberg quote I was indeed surprised to find it coming from the mouth of a woman with a jewish upbringing. Care to comment on that?
You never had to read it in school? I'm surprised. Personally, I think the 1961 film is pretty good, but last year's tv version with Phylicia Rashad and Sean Combs. (No, he's not that bad)
Re. Fortenberry,
I'd completey forgotten about the pro-life angle in "A Raisin In The Sun." Thanks for reminding me.
Re. Fortenberry,
I'd completely forgotten about the pro-life angle in "A Raisin In The Sun." Thanks for reminding me.
Why does that statement have to be tied specifically to African-Americans? The gist of the statement, as i took it, was that Ginsberg was referring to the government essentially controlling the population of undesireables thru Medicaid. To me, that means that in 1973, the undesireables would be the poor and minorities; most notably blacks and hispanics, along with some good old american "white trash". And being that (if the statistic is true) twice as many black children are aborted than are born, then it is very easy to connect the dots.
On that note, Duke University Professor Frank Lombard was recently charged with molesting his 5-Year old adopted son and then trying to pimp him on eBay:"
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/media...
Questions.
1. Why is the gay community been unwilling to publicly (i.e., on TV, Internet, etc.) condemn Prof. Lombard's heinous actions?
2. Does this silence have anything to do with Prof. Lombard being gay?
3. Does this silence also have anything to due with Lombard's adopted son being Black?
4. Does this case justify the "homosexual = pedophile" mindset among quite a number of Black Democrats?
5. Could you really blame many Americans (Democrat, Republican, White, Black, etc.) for thinking gay adoption is REALLY horrible idea?
Just something to think about.
Maybe he didn't add that because there's more important things going on than picking fights with angry gays.
I know that there's nothing more important in life to gays than being gay, announcing they're gay, and making sure that they continue to remind everyone that they're gay, though, so keep it up – you're really doing a lot for your cause.
Yeah, but liberal policies (abortion on demand, "safe sex," welfare) contributed to the massive surge in Black deadbeat dads and the decline of the Black family.
It doesn't help that those that once defended the Black community (e.g., NAACP) now exploit it for personal gain.
I would say nature has determined your ability to raise children as a homosexual moreso than any congressman ever could. Nature determined that reproduction can only be via man/woman relations. I would venture to say that nature had a reason. I believe "nature" means God. You can believe "nature" means something else entirely. That is fine. But, until nature decides to change the way babies are created, it seems nature didn't deem it fit for homosexuals to have a family.
Very well put
Umm, Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a proponent of eugenics and wanted to control the black population. Abortion's legalization was a product of that organization's efforts. Okay, so maybe he should have had a footnote to point out this information, as obviously it has not been taught to the uneducated masses, but those of us who are aware of the issue understand exactly what both he and Ruth Bader Ginsberg were saying.
I believe we truly care about the gay community, as we attempt to counsel and help them leave this disgusting, degrading, and destructive lifestyle that results in an average net loss of 35 years for those who participate. Homosexuality is a choice brought on by deep psychological problems. Counseling is the best tool to help you overcome your issues.
So, by aborting black children, we can reduce black on black crime, homelessness, unemployment…Hmmm, you make sense to me now. All we need is a racial genocide, as brought on by the Democrat party, and we can solve all these issues! Makes sense to me now…
" Black-on-black violence; homelessness & housing; drugs; racism; unemployment. "
All things that can be traced to legislation and policies enacted by democrats, whether you want to believe it or not. We don't look at things in terms of groups, but as individuals.
There was only one thing that was looked at as a group and it was AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, and look at how well that one went over… that was started by the dems as well…
Yes, yes, I don't know what it's like to be gay and afraid to talk about my lifestyle with others or be told my lifestyle is wrong, blah blah mean old Christians and republicans, blah blah blah. Is that about right? You all reduce yourselves to being such 1-dimensional caricatures that you really can't be surprised at how much you're mocked.
And your point wasn't valid – you brought something up that nobody was even talking about in order to start an argument and feel conveniently wounded by us who disagree with you in the process. That's called trolling.
"I think Super Mario Bros. is the best game ever."
"Oh yeah, you forgot to add the part in where you believe in God and you eat babies and think I'm stupid. What do you think of that??"
Yes, yes, I don't know what it's like to be gay and afraid to talk about my lifestyle with others or be told my lifestyle is wrong, blah blah mean old Christians and republicans, blah blah blah. Is that about right? You all reduce yourselves to being such 1-dimensional caricatures that you really can't be surprised at how much you're mocked.
And your point wasn't valid – you brought something up that nobody was even talking about in order to start an argument and feel conveniently wounded by us who disagree with you in the process. That's called trolling.
"I think Super Mario Bros. is the best game ever."
"Oh yeah, you forgot to add the part in where you believe in God and you eat babies and think I'm stupid. What do you think of that??"
Makes a great argument, right?
Yes, yes, I don't know what it's like to be gay and afraid to talk about my lifestyle with others or be told my lifestyle is wrong, blah blah mean old Christians and republicans, blah blah blah. Is that about right? You all reduce yourselves to being such 1-dimensional caricatures that you really can't be surprised at how much you're mocked.
And your point wasn't valid – you brought something up that nobody was even talking about in order to start an argument and feel conveniently wounded by us who disagree with you in the process. That's called trolling.
"I think Super Mario Bros. is the best game ever."
"Oh yeah, you forgot to add the part in where you believe in God and you eat babies and think I'm stupid. What do you think of that??"
Ah, for the days when a celebrity could have their portrait taken while smoking a cigarette.
Actually it is nothing more than simple biology taught at the 8th grade level. (Probably sooner now as i graduated back in 1986). And don't mistake me for a gay-bashing homophobe. I have gay friends and i have at least one gay relative, who happens to be my favorite relative. I was just stating a simple fact of nature.
Wow! Quite an accusation, with absolutely no fact to back it up. (Well, unless you know Carl personally.) You've just shown that you are an accusatory, illogical, socialist-agenda-loving Liberal who can't make an argument without making stuff up. Nice job.
Or to use your own words – "That's an inference stretched beyond adequate data to back it up, which wasn't provided by the writer."
Yes, I'm sure I couldn't pinpoint the struggles of the gay community all of 2 sentences, and I'm sure they all revolve around us evil people that believe in God, and how we don't know how hard it is, and so on.
And there's a lack of integrity in the article just because he doesn't talk about something you're interested in? You're a joke.
Yes. The real problem with homophiliacs is that they have been sexually abused (not necessarily vio;violently) as children at a rate approximately 2:1 versus heterophiliacs. This is the unacknowledged reality of their situation. There are probably some biological deviants who are indeed "born gay," but most of them are aberrant due to their unresolved and deviant sexual development. Look it up for yourself. Google Homosexuality + sexual abuse as children. You'll have to dig around to find the research, but it is there.
So, yes, they need counseling in a big way for their "deep psychological problems." That they say, "love me for who I am, because I can't change" is like an alcoholic asking the same thing. The difference is that the 2% fringe of the homosexual community has been so effective at creating the identity of being an aggrieved victim.
And the case of the Duke university health researcher recently arrested for offering his adopted 5-year-old black son up for sexual play on the Internet is just one tiny of the exposed debauchery of homosexuals that managed to make the light of day.
Good, well thought out post, but don't waste your time. We're apparently all "laughable".
Jane-
Do you personally know Rep. Fortenberry? If not, you have absolutely no way of knowing what he does or does not believe; this is just your own narrow-mindedness and prejudice being displayed in a public forum.
As to "black on black violence, homelessness and housing, drugs, racism and unemployment", we (Republicans) are against all of it. Except maybe housing. I hope that helps clear up some misunderstandings on your part as to what we believe.
Everyone who hears Justice Ginsburg's statement about "populations that we don't want too many of" knows full well that if such a sentiment were ever uttered by someone identified as a conservative, there would be riots and mass bloodletting by the MSM until that person was tarred, feathered and completely discredited. For life.
That Ginsburg gets away with it with barely a raised eyebrow in our centers of cultural and power elite is shocking, yes; but not a surprise. The liberal elite stand naked and exposed for the vicious, hateful frauds that they are. Will the American people finally wake up???
Everyone who hears Justice Ginsburg's statement about "populations that we don't want too many of" knows full well that if such a sentiment were ever uttered by someone identified as a conservative, there would be riots and mass bloodletting by the MSM until that person was tarred, feathered and completely discredited. For life.
That Ginsburg gets away with it with barely a raised eyebrow in our centers of cultural and power elite is shocking, yes; but not a surprise. The liberal elite stand in the public square naked and exposed for the vicious, hateful frauds that they are. Will the American people finally wake up???
vatz-
What do you think Ginsberg meant?
double post.
You're conveniently evading the issue.
Will you publicly condemn Lombard for what he did? Nobody said "the majority of gays are pedophiles".
Your valid point was, what, exactly?
While many black people have entered the ranks of the middle class over the past 40 years, the problems of the inner city grow worse. Jane waxes indignant about "black-on-black violence; homelessness & housing; drugs; racism; unemployment. " Yes, and those problems prevail in cities which have been run by Democrats for decades.
If doctors were brought in to treat an epidemic and instead the illness kept getting worse and worse, wouldn't you question the effectiveness of the medical care they were giving instead of bringing in more doctors prescribing exactly the same treatments?
Very well said! I have a lesbian (refuse to use the word gay-she's anything but gay) 1/2 sister. She doesn't believe gays should raise kids, either. She says kids need a mom and a dad.
My comment WAS based on fact, facts gathered by reading your other outlandish posts. As pointed out by others, your angry-gay, liberal agenda is evident in each reply you put up on this board. I feel sorry for you, but hey, you made your bed….
Another brilliant reply.
The liberal media had a hayday with Foley and Craig, as you well know. Funny how we don't see Barney Frank's indiscretions across the front page.
Nevertheless, if Lombard were a conservative Catholic priest, gay groups like GLAAD would never stop talking about it.
However, if you're a gay pedophile professor from a liberal university, then you seem to get a pass from the Gay Lobby.
Talk about rank hypocrisy.
All those politicians ran on pro-family platforms and thus are deemed targets by the liberal media.
But if you're a liberal college professor who is gay, then the media strangely loses its nerve to condemn your sexual deviancy.
I guess the motto for the liberal media is "Racism and pedophilia are okay as long as you're liberal and gay."
Social Justice-
The Statist's legal system which denies the individual of their dignity by striking down their kind spirit and crushing their good-hearted soul; terminate the innocent and euthanize the elder is a Social Justice way of helping the poor.
That has been the game plan since at least 1973 (earlier in some states), and we can see how well it has been working out. All of those problems are just about gone,aren't they?
Can you point to your reference for the "fact" that over 2/3s of black conceptions are aborted in the US?
MR. FORTENBERRY,
GOOD JOB WITH YOUR ARTICLE HERE, NEED TO SEE MORE OUR REPS AND SENATORS CONTRIBUTING
TO THIS SITE. YOU HAVE MY VOTE FOR HIGHER OFFICE SHOULD YOU SEEK IT AND I DID NOT KNOW WHO YOU WERE BEFORE THIS ARTICLE…. STOP THE AMERICAN HOLOCAUST AS SOMEONE WHO PAYS YOUR SALARY I ASK YOU TO DO ALL IN YOUR POWER TO STOP THE AMERICAN HOLOCAUST OF ABORTION. THEN STOP OBAMACARE, CAP AND TAX, CARD CHECK, WIN THE WAR, DO NOT CONFIRM THE "WISE LATINA" AND GET THE TAX MAN OFF OUR BACKS!!! I SAY STOP THE HOLOCAUST FIRST, BECUASE WE ARE BETTER PEOPLE THAN THAT AND A BETTER COUNTRY THAN THAT AND BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL… I CAN SAY ALL THIS AS I AM YOUNG ENOUGH TO HAVE SURVIVED ROE– DO
YOU REALIZE ALL AMERICAN 34 AND UNDER ARE SURVIVORS– ABORTION IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE!!!
So your complaint is not with this opinion itself, but the Rep. in general? If you have a bone to pick with his opinion on another topic then why not address that in particular. Rather than slamming this topic with an anterior motive. It not only is a waste of your time, but also the time for those of us not really interested in your agenda.
True enough – but what does this have to do with blacks and abortion? Vatz is playing the time-tested liberal trick of "don't look here, look over there" in order to change the subject and to derail a thread.
I have no problem whatsoever with blacks aborting their children. In fact it's one of the few government programs I am happy to pay taxes for….
Kind of ironic, though, as she died of cancer.
Rep. Fortenberry: Ginsburg's comments really grated on me. Especially since I recently watched a new documentary exposing racism and abortion called: Maafa21. Have you seen this? If not, get a copy to every member of Congress because Maafa21 carefully documents Planned Parenthood Founder, Margaret Sanger and her Eugenic and racist Board of Directors who were members of the American Eugenics Society. Maafa21 is full of articles, documents, and quotes by Sanger and her band of eugenic friends and Ginsburg sounds just like them. In fact, former Planned Parenthood President, Faye Wattelton admits in the Maafa21 film that Planned Parenthood accepts money from people who want to limit the amount of babies born to African Americans. Can you see if Ginsburg contributes to Planned Parenthood? Perhaps that is one of the elitist racists that Wattelton was referring to. Planned Parenthood's former president, Alan Guttmacher , was the Vice President of the American Eugenics Society – how come they get away with hiding all this racism and they get millions of my tax dollars? Would we give a former president of the KKK millions of US Tax Dollars. Speaking of the KKK, Sanger met with them and they gobbled her speech up. Get a copy of Maafa21 and see how racist Planned Parenthood and Elitists like Ruth Bader Ginsburg really are. For a sample of their racist statements go here: http://www.maafa21.com. STOP FUNDING RACISM – STOP FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD !
Great point.
So, vatz, what are YOU doing to bring down those abortion rates in the Black community?
No we didn't. Sadly, that wasn't on our reading list. Richard Wright's books were though.
I love Phylicia Rashad! I'd pay to watch her read the phone book. This is definitely a work I need to see.
If you'd stop poking your penises in each others asses long enough to think about why that may be, you'd realize that it's really a pretty filthy lifestyle which shortens your lifespan and is in general…icky.
Your selectiveness is so convenient.
So is dragging your sexual orientation into any debate no matter the subject. No, this is not about you.
My post should say, "last year's tv version was quite good as well." You can't beat Poitier in all his youthful, pantherish glory, though.
I'm strongly pro-life and I don't have a problem with gay people adopting kids.
I'm a social worker and just from my experience it seems that gay couples are more willing to adopt special needs children (older kids, those with multiple handicaps) than straight people.
This is a bit off-topic, but there is a group called PLAGAL composed of pro-life gay men and women. Here's their website: http://www.plagal.org/
Have a good day, everyone.
I sincerely doubt that Ginsburg is a proponent of eugenics, and the fact that the article's author didn't directly follow up the question speaks to poor journalism, IMHO. Considering how many conservative wags have criticized blacks harshly for having "too many" children over the years, I can't help but find Rep. Fortenberry's argument a little condescending, but I hope that if he is so concerned with black abortion rates, he'll support teaching better contraceptive habits, which will limit unwanted pregnancies to begin with.
A Guy with a Funny Looking Mustache Tried these kind of Tactic's not all that long ago, His Name Escapes Me at the moment .He use to raise his Right Arm a lot if I remember correctly. He wanted to get Rid of what He Deemed Undesirables and now the Great Sensitives of the Left want to do the same. LOL. and We Conservatives are the Fascists. LOL. My Black Brothers and Sisters Better Wake-Up and Fast….. and at That I'm not Laughing.
Sadly, people includiing FOX, give clowns like Al Sharpton a soapbox and not the people who really need to speak up
“…populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
That a sitting Supreme Court Justice should utter these words in 2009 is unfathomable.
That that same Justice happens to be a Jewish woman makes it hideous.
I've a suggestion for Justice Ginsburg…the Nazis had a term you might appreciate:
"Life Unworthy of Life"
"Do you really think anyone's buying your pose as Champion Of Black People..?" Redirect your comment to Barbara Boxer.
You're wasting your time. He's absolutely convinced that you're wrong and he's right — our trolls tend to be that brand of debater that spends a considerable amount of time constructing for himself an impenetrable and indestructible shell of self-righteous certainty.
How is homosexuality related to abortion rates in the black community, anyway?
I don't care whether you're a troll or one of those Neanderthal types who actually believes what you're saying. Shove it up your @$$.
Terminating the life of an unwanted child is not "reproductive healthcare," but the pro-abortion crowd gets an "A" for effort, creativity and determination.
Instead of denigrating people, how about offering some support. When we respect life everyone benefits. Where do you get the idea that "you don't want gay people raising American children"? Who's the "you" you are talking about? Quite possibly if there were less abortions, childless couples of all kinds would have a better opportunity to adopt. Please don't imagine that Dems who advocate for "minorities" have your best interests at heart. If you look past your stereotypes you might find conservatives are genuinly more accepting of differences, realizing that we are all better off when we support each other. Yes, if you want to stereotype, you can say that most conservatives are deeply Christian and don't believe a gay lifestyle is acceptable, but they also reconginize that is it your right to believe (and live) any way you want. I don't have to agree with you on everything and wouldn't expect you to agree with me on everything either. I do think it is important that we understand and tolerate each other. Frankly, I don't see any toleration from the left, unless it is something they agree with.
You nailed it. Thanks for the insightful comments. When will people realize that leftists are socialists and Natzi referred to the National Socialist party. Black brothers and sisters, google eugenics and Natzi Germany. You may be surprised.
Well…there is one other thing the Dems started…don't forget the Klan. Where would they be without constantly using race as a weapon?
Keep on speaking, Axlslash. You have just condensed in one paragraph the manifesto of most thinking Americans. The only item you left out was the political corruption in both parties that MUST be erradicated. Our politicians must be held responsible for their wasteful spending. No more taxation without representation. Vote wisely 2010.
I'm all for anyone, gay or straight who is willing to raise children to be responsible, caring adults.
Uhmmm, message to joconde, I believe that what conservatives criticize is anyone having "too many children" that they can't support. Heard of the Dugger family? 18 kids and they support all of them. Frankly, abortion rates for blacks are disproportionatly high and that hasn't helped the black community at all – still a higher amount of poverty, crime, drugs. Wonder what would happen if the black community all of a sudden decided to esteem scholars instead of athletes? Quit supporting movies and songs about drugs and thugs? Wow! What would happen if parents preached sacrifice, teachers preached achievement, media preached character?
Not to mention the fact that Barney's BFF took advantage of his golden parachute to bail before Fannie/Freddie imploded. Rember how Barney Franks, Maxine Waters, several others stood up in 2007 and indignantly protested any problems with the mortgage industry, Freddie/Fannie in particular. The beginning of the economic spiral now known as the Depression of 2009. Don't forget this in 2010 and vote these out of office.
You forgot their other motto. Liberals support your right to an opinion as long as it is theirs.
Are someone's feelings hurt? I believe this article was referring to the racism inherit in abortion. Why the chip on the shoulder?
I find it very distressing so few people on this site seem to find this statement worthy of rebuke
You missed my point. I'm not advocating irresponsible childbirth anymore than I am indiscriminate abortion. But as I said, perhaps there might be fewer children people can't support if contraception was taught better. If eduction opportunities were better that led to higher college admissions, etc.
If you weren't such a historical illiterate, you might recognize that Ginsberg's remarks echo those of one of her heroes, Margaret Sanger, whose Birth Control Review's cover banner read "More Children from the Fit, Less Children from the Unfit." You might remember that the "mainstream" organization you know as Planned Parenthood used to be called The Eugenics League, and published glowing articles about the praiseworthy work being done by the Nazis to deal with their "unfit" populations.
[...] AND A Raisin In The Sun. But can this be true? “Twice as many Black children are eliminated through abortion than are [...]
Some things are just beneath the effort. No use pointing out that the blatently reprehensible is reprehensible.
It's more a matter of "don't feed the troll". In any event, this comment is disgusting on its face to a majority of people and requires no rebuke. I tire of the supposed premise that if you don't rebuke something obviously wrong you somehow tacitly approve of it. If I read a story of someone grinding their children up and serving them on buns at the neighborhood cook-out I don't feel a need to rebuke it, as anyone who doesn't intuitively know it's wrong is far beyond learning so from a simple rebuke from an unknown individual on the web. Same story here.
Contraceptive habits such as use of condoms and pills as endorsed by the same abortion industry that banks its fortunes on the failure of said contraceptives (abortion mills would be a bit less lucrative if the practices they advocate were really effective)? Or do you just mean abstinence?
The irony of Margaret Sanger and her legacy clique, Planned Parenthood? Sanger was a proponent of contraceptive use and other pre-conception population control measures; not abortion, which she considered barbaric.
Not ironic at all. More like cause and effect. If she had been a life-long crusader against smoking and then died of lung cancer…THAT would be ironic
Four or five posters will jump on me for making a point they disagree with and/or find lacking, yet they go mum on your crassness.
Very telling.
The main reason the Nazis and the Communists hated each other was that the very presence of each faction reminded the other that they weren't the only game in town.
completely writing off my opinion
When in Rome…
Rep. Fortenberry, you do your cause very bad service by making easily disproved overstatements.
2004 is the latest year for which the Statistical Abstract has numbers for both categories. That year there were 616,000 live births of black children, while 453,000 black women had abortions. Numbers for the previous four years were about the same.
Thus the correct statement is "three-quarters as many", not "twice as many". It's not as dramatic, but is more than sufficiently horrendous – there is no need to exaggerate.
Leave that to the global warmists.
Maybe instead of "Raisin In The Sun" I recommend considering "Freakanomics". These statistics gurus discuss the "Donohue-Levitt hypothesis" and explain why the drop in crime across American cities in the early 1990s had LESS to do with mayoral/police campaigns and had EVERYTHING to do with the passing of Roe v Wade a generation prior.
Fascinating stuff. That is, if you can handle the truth!
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/...
Yes, terms are "exclusive" in order to mean anything.
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