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"Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."
No matter how many times I watch that 'Hydrangea Club' meeting, I am still in awe at how they filmed it so brilliantly.
A most appros film for the Age of Obama irrespective of its Cold War pedigree.
This movie blew me away. I'm 26 first saw this when I was 20 and watched it with my younger brother who was 19 at the time and he wasn't really into "old" movies. His Jaw dropped and said it was the most intense thing he'd ever seen. I'm hard pressed to disagree. It is amazing.
More Janet Leigh please!
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I'm embarrassed to admit that I had to google the French title to figure out what the English title was. A forehead-slapping moment, as I took French – and passed – when I was a doctoral candidate. lol.
Poster art seems to suggest that the film stars Jimmy Stewart, Kim Novak and William Holden.
Whaaaaaa?
And what do them Frenchies call the film?
The American title for us American conservatives who read English when it is available is THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.
Un Crime Dans La Obama…….. Whether French, English, or SPanish, we don't need a movie, we are living through it now.
It translates roughly to "A Crime of the Mind". Which gives away the plot.
"La Obama". How appropriate! Or even "Ooh La La!". He's so metro-presidential.
Thank you.
Ummmm….doesn't seem to be a plot-buster via poster. Oh, well……that was for them Frenchies to deal with!
I rank this as one of the greatest movies ever made — big surprise, right? : )
Saw this in the theater in the '80's when they re-released it, paid $85.00 for a VHS copy of it and currently have the DVD.
Brilliant movie, scene where Frank Sinatra plays 52 Queens of Diamonds and the utter confusion on Lawrence Harvey's face was mind boggling.
John Frankenheimer was also a brilliant filmmaker. I don't think Stanley Kubrick could have made this movie as intense and thrilling as Frankenheimer did.
PS: The remake with Meryl Streep and Denzel Washington is totally lame. Some movies are meant to stand by themselves – no remakes, no sequels, no prequels. Manchurian Candidate is one of those movies.
who would have thunk it!!!!
How about the look on Sinatra's face when Laurence Harvey's "house boy" opens the door?
Angela Lansbury was creepy as hell in this movie. That scene near the end when she puts the lip lock on her son is revolting.
Psycho comes to mind…
Yea, and Wu Fat of Hawaii Five O fame leading the parade. With the Revamped version on the way I wonder who is going to get the gig for one of TV's greatest villains!
It was suppose to be.
Another superb movie that suffered the indignity of a pointless remake.
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For a goof I checked out some left-wing blogs and guess what??
They are all claiming that the Discovery channel hostage guy was a conservative because of his anti-immigration rhetoric.
Shocking, I know…
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/01/discovery-ter...
Read the comments, you'll notice that every single comment that refutes their idiocy is voted down and hidden from view until you actively select to view it. These people are dangerously insane….
Maj.Gen. Jerry Curry : Obama's Eligibility Issue Moving Toward Critical Mass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmTqvIhLig
What can you expect from them?
Yet, even some of the MSM are now saying 'insane environmental extremist'.
OTOH – the Asian left wingers are saying he is a Moslem.
And the makers of baseball style caps are calling his headgear a 'turban'.
And United Earth Council is claiming he is from Saturn.
And God called and said He never made this man.
Oh I'm not surprised or anything, but I still find it funny that they'd ignore his entire manifesto that's littered with global warming tripe and eco-terrorism rhetoric to latch onto the one sentence that talks about anti-immigration.
"Here!! I found it!! He uses the word 'the', Bush used the word 'the' at least TWICE in his last speech!! We got em now!!"
just make sure you avoid the patently awful remake…
always loved your Sinatra head shot…
Not the world's biggest Sinatra fan- in cinema. But Frankenheimer was off the charts hot when he made this- and he cast Frank perfectly; not to mention Sinatra channeled the war weary combat officer caught up in the world of intrigue spot on.
It made the cut in our top twenty films of all time; the highest ranking of any of Frankenheimer's work…
John Mc Cain, aware of the conservative veterans who found him a 'sellout'…
Said this: 'Well, after all what do you expect from the Queen of Hearts?' showing, that he too, is aware of The Manchurian Candidate. What horrors perpetrated against poor Lawrence Harvey were also visited on the five year Hanoi Hilton resident McCain.
A self effacing joke- or perhaps a tacit admission of the truth?
You make the call…
This is a great film, as others have said, no remake ever needed, although they did their best–the remake looks good and has great talent. (A good turn by Jeffrey Wright, a still-undervalued actor who's always amazing). If you'd never seen the original, the remake might be considered a tolerable thriller. (2 hours spent with Denzel in a dark room is NEVER a waste, IMHO. *sigh*) Ironically, Liev Schrieber has been in TWO of the biggest-budget remake "why?" films: "Candidate" and "The Omen," another classic that wasn't improved on.
You get that type of mentality when a person is raised in a strictly modern liberal environment. They are conditioned to never, ever, under any circumstance, engage in civil conversation with any one who doesn't think in exact lock step with their ideology.
That's the real problem with the establishment's leftist ideology. The put up such a huge echo chamber, different ideas simply can't penetrate. It's easy to tell from some of the those comments those people have never engaged anyone out side of the approved circle.
Of course they ignored it. Ideas counter to the established ideology are forbidden. They are trained to skip over all that and just focus in on what validates their preconceived ideas.
The responses posted there to dissenting views were on par with a 9th grader that doesn't get their way. They are more temper tantrum than coherent thought.
First time I saw this in college, I just sat there, shocked at the ending. I remember thinking, "This is what good cinema can be." I loved this movie.
I don't know if you've ever read Marx's Communist Manifesto – I have. It's all circular logic. Makes no rational sense.
An ideology under pinned by that type of thinking produces people that think using circular logic. Things are they way they are because they said they are.
The best way to get these people to break this circular logic is to engage them in rational, polite debate.
Some will be outraged about how dare you question their obvious knowledge and wisdom! Ignore those.
Some will also start to think. And if you can get them to do that, anything can happen.
I'm heard that it blows chunks! But then Meryl Streep is in it, so why am I not surprised?
it should be destroyed for insulting every one who ever saw it…
Yes, I have wondered also.
I was 16 when this movie came out. I grabbed my best friend and took him the next week-end.
The Manchurian Candidate was the first Hollywood movie to stage a fight against an Asian martial arts thug. Up until then, we had heard of tall 200 pound plus Americans getting their a**es kicked by little 5' 2" Japanese guys who were tossing us all over the place with their judo and jujitso. The karate was so cool!!
Also, the domino theory concerning Southeast Asia was becoming more popular. Asian villians supported that point of view.
For anyone who is trying to keep up with brainwashing possibilities, check out Nick Begich's Controlling the Human Mind.
"The Manchurian Candidate" Otherwise known as "The Obama story". A true example of life imitating art!
No it doesn't. They could be referring to Al Gore.
Interestingly enough the 'domino theory' was invented by the west. Lenin describes it as the plan to achieve a world wide communist government in his unceasingly boring treatise State And Revolution.
Start picking off the smaller nations, force them on your side, and keep knocking them over till they rule the majority of the world, and then start going after the bigger ones.
Ah, an open thread. Perfect for linking the newest review from Mr. Plinkett, otherwise known as Creepy Basement Guy, the one who dissected Star Wars Episodes I and II so well.
He reviewed the Star Trek reboot (NSFW).
Part I: http://blip.tv/file/4069271
Part II: http://blip.tv/file/4069458
Enjoy.
It's definitely both Frankenheimer's and Sinatra's (non-singing) best work. I've always thought Frankenheimer was a solid journeyman director and Sinatra a pretty decent dramatic actor — never doing less than a professional job, but nothing spectacular. But in this case, they (and everybody else in the production) went above and beyond, and made a masterpiece.
"Barack Obama is the cleanest, most articulate and perfect president we have ever known"
The only reason I figured it out was the poster.
I thought Jimmy Stewart, too, when I saw the caricature of Harvey.
As a politician, I am not a big fan of McCain. At all. His daughter needs to be slapped, repeatedly.
But,…………..
I'll vote for self-effacing joke.
Lydecker: She thought me also the kindest, the gentlest, the most sympathetic man in the world.
Lydecker: McPherson, you won't understand this. But I tried to become the kindest, the gentlest, the most sympathetic man in the world.
McPherson: Have any luck?
Lydecker: (callously) Let me put it this way. I should be sincerely sorry to see my neighbors' children devoured by wolves. Shall we go?
Bad art!
You mean it was fated to be?
Ahhhhh! Another "Laura" fan. I love it.
Sigh. They just don't write dialogue like that any longer. I mean – it was the whole film, not just one or two lines.
Yes – a big fan for decades of a great film. So much in there and arguably Tierney and Andrews best film ever. You don't get material like that. And Webb – so many of his later film roles are variations of Lydecker. LAURA is so deftly put together that you barely notice the 'liberties' that the writers and the director are taking with the time line. We get hoodwinked a lot in that film! Haha!
I'll make my standard observation.
Props to the always lady-like Angela Lansbury who manages to get shot through the head or heart and dies on stage, but manages to fall dead from her chair with her knees pressed tightly together!
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That makes sense. The domino theory is a kind of a macro Cloward & Piven – meaning the idea is to take over by attrition until freedom is overwhelmed.
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that, And 'The Train' with Burt Lancaster. He was smokin' back then…
God, we hope so. He is one of our brothers, after all…
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