New York City’s Dumb Gun Laws Could Get Dumber
by Greg GutfeldSo apparently New York City is proposing new criteria for would-be gun-owners – banning folks from having weapons if they happen to be lousy drivers, been fired from a job due to bad character, or in possession of serious debt.
According to council-member Dan Halloran, these changes give police more power to reject licenses, in order to counter a possible upswing in gun ownership caused by new, lower fees.
Now I’m all for keeping guns out the hands of bad people.
But I’m also for getting guns into the hands of good people.
But I must ask: how does being a bad driver, make you a bad person? And getting fired? I’ve been canned three times – does that mean I can’t have a glock? I mean, I shouldn’t have a glock – but not for that reason. There was an incident in Shreveport that ended that dream.
As for being in debt? That eliminates everyone here on this set. And also John Gibson – who still owes me $1300 for that lost weekend in Cancun.
So yeah, these new restrictions seem pretty vague.
But there’s something else here that stinks. If the government can link certain good behaviors to gun ownership, who’s going to define what’s good?
Think about it. Your fitness to own a gun might only be approved as long as you fulfill a strict criteria that appeals only to the modern, annoying civil servant.
Perhaps, to own a gun, you’ll have to possess an impeccable recycling history, participate regularly in Take Your Daughter to Work Day, watch The Daily Show religiously, and ban trans-fats from your kids diet. So you didn’t run the 5k on Earth Day? And you chose to rent “the expendables” over “Eat Pray Love?”
Sorry, no Smith & Wesson for you.
But worse, if you take guns out of the hands of decent people, you’ll never learn how to carve a pumpkin, the fun way:
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Nice work.
And if you disagree with me, you’re a racist, homophobic, glockophobe.
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good to see hickok45 on big hollywood!
I am in posession of serious debt. I used all money to buy guns and ammo. Now I need to make some money so I can move to NYC. Can anyone help with bus fare? Lost my job when I was fired by my muslim boss for burning the koran outside his 7-11. Looking to relocate near ground zero as I am very patriotic.
Please help
Check out http://www.kniferights.org and see what the City of New York District Attorney is trying to do to eliminate pocket knives. His focus is on knives that can be opened with one hand (spring assisted) but are not considered automatic. Thus, folks carrying their Kersaw Ken Onion design knives are considered criminals because they want to only use one hand when opening a box or mail or whatever. If it wasn't for New York, my home state of California might be the most freedom-hating state in the Union. Thank God for DVRs, so I can still watch Red Eye without sleeping through work.
I have been fighting against dumb gun laws for many years . . .
June 4, 2008
Dear: Governor Paterson, State-Senator Leibel, Assemblyman Bradley(this guy is a wife beater)
Every year some new idea about how to make our streets safer via “Gun Control” arrives in New York. We’ve registered our guns. Violent crime continues. We’ve banned assault weapons. Violent crime continues. We ballistically identify our legally possessed pistols. Violent crime continues. There are 200 to 300 million firearms in this country – they are woven into the fabric of our society. For all the “wiz bang” technology that modern society has invented – rifles and pistols are still the foundation of our national and state defense. Thousands of times an hour they are used to dissuade another from pursuing an ill advised path; whether in the hand of a police officer or a private citizen. Yes – accidents and tragedies happen, and a mature society must look itself in the mirror and draw the proper conclusions from these horrible events, but to think that by passing law upon law the public at large will somehow be magically made safer via “gun control” is psychotic and dangerous.
I and many of you witnessed the attacks on September 11, 2001. Had those pilots – many of whom were ex military officers – been required to carry a side arm; that day would have ended much differently. Imagine all the lives and treasure that could have been saved but for an irrational fear of the law abiding gun owner. Can any of you honestly say that over the past few decades your collective efforts have made New Yorkers safer? If any of you answered yes then you must take a close look at the FBI statistics on violent crime – you’ll find disappointment waiting for you. No law can urge the lawless to ask permission from anyone for anything. Remember ladies and gentleman criminals, terrorists, and sub human miscreants are dumb, but they are not stupid.
The latest iteration of this policy is the idea that putting a serial number on a bullet casing as it ejects from a semi-automatic pistol will allow law enforcement to detect and thus incarcerate more criminals – this is also referred to as micro-stamping. So let us pretend that all of you are now criminals – how would you alter your behavior to avoid detection? Police your brass. Use a sawed off shotgun. Use a revolver. Gasoline and a match are very effective. Explosives work exceedingly well in motor vehicles. Poison – women seem to prefer this method – Spitzer should hire a food tester. There are very effective ways of killing people that never include a semi-automatic pistol. Not to mention the most obvious trick – remove the firing pin and file off the serializing mechanism. What about something even more devious – picking up used serialized brass at a firing range and place it at the scene of the future crime to throw off the police. Serializing casings of pistol cartridges not only will not work, but it will create more permutations of that section of the population of New York State that are hell bent on killing for profit or psychosis.
New York State currently operates a system that ostensibly should be doing what micro-stamping or serializing a cartridge would do. That system is called “The New York State Combined Ballistic Identification System,” or COBIS. To date COBIS has cost the taxpayers of New York $30,000,000 and has produced only two matches in its database. It costs $4,000,000 per year to operate. We are not the only State to have attempted such foolishness – Maryland has attempted it also. The only difference is Maryland abandoned it because firearms possessed by law abiding citizens are use to commit crimes in infinitesimally rare circumstances. I could fill five pages with all I know of ballistic identification and it’s pros and cons – I sincerely suggest all of you educate yourselves and rethink New York's current approach – last I checked New York was running a $5,000,000,000 deficit saving a few million here or there might start adding up to real money.
continued . . .
Many proven methods work to prevent crime, a solid basic education in how to behave in civil society, economic growth, engaged and active parents, etc. But the most effective methods that exist for reducing crime is self defense and long term humane incarceration for those who cannot coexist peacefully with their fellow citizens. New York State concealed carry law is a mess – some counties provide permits to law abiding citizens with out much hassle while others, “you have to know somebody.” Fix this and you’ll have a safer society. Don’t get me wrong – have stringent rules and requirements that are not capricious for the officials as well as the applicants, but stop deluding yourselves in thinking that permit holders and firearms are in and of themselves the enemy – the opposite is true – concealed carry holders are the most productive and law abiding segment of society. Florida maintains excellent statistics on this point – less then one hundredth of one percent of all permit holders has ever committed any crime in its entire thirty year history of concealed carry! Before Elliot Sptitzers behavior was detected he let 200 murderers out of prison. These people did not steal a loaf of bread to feed their children – THEY KILLED AND RAPED PEOPLE. Fix this and you’ll have a safer society. Bring back the death penalty for criminals that take an officers life.
Please stop attacking me and my fellow firearms owners we neither deserve your ire or your ad hominem attacks. Focus your efforts on what works and not what will get any of you reelected, stop using firearms as a means to win votes in an effort to demonstrate to your misguided constituents that you can save them from violent crime if only they surrender more of their forgotten liberty, when the opposite is true – even they at some point will recognize your hypocrisy for what it is.
Respectfully,
Joe Doakes
but, who is to say what that debt level is, are we talking 100 trillion, then the social security system would have to give up thier guns. at 13 trillion, there goes the us government. and setting it down to one trillion will soon eliminate some states. also, with the bad driving thing, that would leave out most professional athletes(dui's), asians(ever drive behind one?), and some women(need i specify, the rear view mirror makeup specialists?). but, how about sticking to certain convicted felons, those who have a violent component to them, murderers, abusers(child, wife, people), but these days, they are trying to convict buisness owners, and ceo's for felonies because thier business went bankrupt, why should they be excluded from owning a gun.
sounds like if you are young enough, you might fit into the millitary, lots of muslim targets in the hills of afghanistan, and pakistan.
Greg, I'll be in Shreveport this weekend packing both my S&W 357 and 500 Mags. (Zombies abound up there.) I will stop by and pay my respects at the site of the incident.
Note to self………..Buy pumpkin and ammo tomorrow. Send pumpkin-ala-Glock to NY City Council.
Your fight has obviously been very fruitful. Good job.
Reminds me why Katrina really wasn't that bad.
Your only defense is to be a "criminal" and carry a gun. A very small one. When pinched. You claim that to register it would be a violation of your right to self incrimination, and if you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you . . .
somebody knocked us both down!
Don't look at me. I knocked CP down, but only because he's a troll.
Oh god, someone knocked you down! Oh no! My rating! My rating! I can't have a sense of self-worth without my rating!
I could see Nanny State Blumenthal and his libtard Upper West Side cronies, they have doormen and lots of expensive security services, wrenching guns from the hands of straight up citizens that have weight problems or over salt their fries, please, any excuse will do.
Note to liberals: that pathetic 911 call only shows up too late with the coroner and the yellow police tape AFTER you report that homicidal maniac at three in the morning in your bedroom as an unarmed liberal. You are dead. 911 doesn't work real well with muggings and home invasions. It's AFTER the fact. Every cop will tell you that.
That makes 2 of us. Could you imagine two cowboys in the old west:
"Listen partner, you keep knocking me down, I want take to kindly to it . . ." (then that whistle of the old west)
Hmm, now I don't feel so proud of carving up a pumpkin with a knife all by myself. But hey, he tried to grab my wallet.
Incidentally, since we're speaking of New York gun laws, if anyone lives in the 13th Congressional District (Staten Island and SW Brooklyn), make sure you vote for Michael Grimm on Tuesday. Ex-Marine, good guy, going up against a Democratic incumbent who not long ago compiled a list of the "Jewish money" being donated to Grimm. You don't think it makes a difference; it does, this race is currently a toss-up and enough Republican turnout could restore the most conservative part of the Big Apple to our side. Yes–with six days out, I'm officially shilling for Republican candidates. Stuck here in college, can't work on anyone's campaign–what else am I going to do?
I could give a hoot. I just love how even a system that is meant to indicate to those participating the value of some ones input can be tricked into doing anything even from those, like yourself, who don't deserve it.
Kind of like medi-care.
Gun Control has has racism at it's roots.
The Sullivan Act (NYC's original gun control law)
I especially like THIS IMAGE
All I can say is Lucky for me and my hubby …we're good to go. Lock and Load. Now IF they had included Party Affiliation on the list, we'd be in deep doo doo. Wanna bet, a LOT of elected officials won't qualify under this criteria? Oh, I forgot …laws passed only apply to us minions.
" happiness IS a warm gun "
When you get caught between a gun and New York City
I know it's crazy but it's true
If you get caught between a gun and New York City
The best that you can do
The best that you can do is run away
College is a good place to be stuck right now.
…And you have to watch out for those cucurbita maximi: damn things can grow up to 25 feet long!
I just knocked you down because you're annoying.
Awesome post!
Here comes Larry, pulling out the big guns.
I can't have big guns. My credit score wasn't high enough and the obama gun czar said I couldn't have one.
in possession of serious debt.
So New York is going to prevent the government from possessing guns?
The liberals always trot out gun control when they're in trouble. They do that to try to get attention off of whatever is causing them pain like the upcoming election. Next, we'll have gay marriage brought up again along with getting rid of the Bible. It's pathetic.
note to self, do not use shot gun, unless you want a freckle faced pumpin.
Good job mismanaging your credit. You are a right-wing shining star.
they could just criminalize being a republican or conservative as hate speach? i think, once we throw the bums out, we should criminalize progressives, and liberals!!
I won't hire you, I'll ADOPT you LOL
or and empty magazine?
Nope, just a regular father, husband and working guy. Conservative (enemy of the state) and an irregular church goer.
And I knocked you down on all your comments again! Nyah, nyah…
So basically a flyover redneck. That makes total sense.
What a wonderful idea for a bumper sticker or a t shirt ; )
ps- however…scorching hot casings, stuck inside a female's….ahh…shirt (hush)…not quite as much happiness (ie- much jumping, dancing in place and screeching "get it out get it out, it BURNS!"…ahem….not that *I* would know…<innocent look> )
Typical. Why do you progs have to categorize everyone? Are you that afraid?
S'okay, puddin'. You don't have to be afraid anymore.
Step into the light. . . .
So, basically, if you live in New York you're at the mercy of anybody who is bigger and stronger than you are. Heaven help you if you are a petite woman.
Don't talk to me about self defense courses or Karate. I don't think most of them actually prepare you to face a real world situation.
I'm glad I live in AZ.
Does this mean that ordinary citizens could sue to disarm the IRS and the ATF? Those Treasury agents sure don't need guns. I'm sure the President will be just fine with an unarmed Secret Service detail.
The way I see it they're expecting an armed uprising once they ban salt. Nanny Bloomberg never should have gone on record saying, "Let them eat bacon!"
So by imposing these restrictions would put nearly all Cops in NYC either out of a job or just allowed to carry a taser and or a gun with either rubber bullets or a gun and no bullets. Yeah that really make sense to those that reside in NYC. And as to whose gonna decide if your naughty or nice and allowed to own/carry a gun, well I'd hate to see who would be on that bd of directors. I would guess that Bloomberg would head that bd. he's for banning everything good for a person and as most Citizens know Guns are good infact I heard there better than Salt !!!
That's pretty funny. I still like Christopher Cross. In my version substitute gun with nun.
I want to suggest my ex wife be put on that list.
That would require them to use common sense.
So no weapons for law abiding citizens. A Victory Mosque at ground zero where 3000 of there own people died. Can't have salt with your french fries. They keep electing the same idiots year after year. You know if the Sharia Loving Islamists blow that whole city to hell I have no sympathy. They have to be the dumbest aholes on the planet. Bye Bye Big Apple. You people are morons.
So no weapons for law abiding citizens. A Victory Mosque at ground zero where 3000 of there own people died. Can't have salt with your french fries. They keep electing the same idiots year after year. You know if the Sharia Loving Islamists blow that whole city to hell I have no sympathy. They have to be the dumbest aholes on the planet. Bye Bye Big Apple. You people are morons.
So glad I live in Texas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt7FDTpzGvo
This just makes law abiding citizens into criminals. Because criminals own guns and will always own guns.These laws just make it easier for criminals to commit their crimes. I would not live in a state that you couldn't own a gun. That is how countries are taken over. That's why the commies will have a hard time taking over the US there are to many rednecks and hillbillies. Thank God!
Excellent point.
Sounds like they are trying to profile the typical Obama voter
I wanna go home
I saw the new rules, sounds like the NYC nazi's don't like guns and prefer lawyers to to the fighting.
NYPD and Bloomberg should just focus on keeping guns away from democrat felons and parolees. 90% of prison inmates identify with the democrat party.
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Greg Gutfeld wrote: "As for being in debt? That eliminates everyone here on this set."
it also eliminates our military.
By categorizing, you divide. That's the tactic, divide and conquer, one demographic at a time.
The guy sure knows how to shoot. I took some fri3ends pistol shooting for the first time and it is gratifying to see their grins.
In California the CCW laws (well, one law) is a bit schizophrenic. It's all up to the law enforcement in each county – the sheriff I think. In general the rural counties make it easy while the urban – like Los Angeles, make it near impossible.
But a CCW granted in one country is good all over the state.
Reckon Sharia has anything to say about salt or trans-fats? Anyone wanna try and tell an Imam how much salt to put in his hummus?
The Democrat formula.
.500 mag? You've got some strong wrists, dude.
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
The irony: this song was written by some wealthy peacenik (John Lennon) shot and killed outside his home by some nutjob – in New York City – which resulted in more draconian anti-gun laws in the city which have done little to nothing to stop violent crimes.
And they give you guns. Do you prefer an M-9 or an M-16?
I think Hickok45 is my new hero!!
C'mon! How are we supposed to have a civil discussion if you're just gonna maliciously toss around historical facts like supreme court decisions and stuff? Everybody knows that how people FEEL about any subject is THE most important thing. Geez, get with the program you unenlightened…..fact user!
This is a rare case where the supreme court will help conservatives. Measures like this are vulnerable to 2nd amendment challenges.
Wait, everybody who owns a house is in debt until they pay off their mortgage. That eliminates almost every homeowner from being able to own a gun. I'm sure the guys who specialize in home invasion will be grateful.
On a side note, that custom weapon that guy's got? I can't decide if that is the most terrifying weapon ever or the most awesome one. The pocket knife's a bit much though since it's blocking the scope.
The top picture must be Data from Goonies all grown up. Kind of makes me want to see a sequel.
My brother has that same rifle.It has a 3 position selector switch,semi-auto,-full-auto and skin cancer.
It's worked up to this point. Why stop now?
Gun Control: The theory that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got a fatal bullet wound.
Woman With S&W .38 Says NO to Rape!
http://usataxpayer.org/url.asp?Show=55358556
Gun grabbers, If you think that you will be exempt because you are progressive, elite and smart, you really should really study history and find out who they round up and exterminate first.
If You Have any Doubt About the Results of Gun Control…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0079012351
Gun Control Proponent…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0017209881
Liberal/Conservative Gun Control… Good Answer!…
http://usataxpayer.org/?0054668560
It's worked at accomplishing what exactly?
Yeah, 20 minutes away (if you're lucky).
;-D
BINGO!
You win!
Agreed. Same goes to California. You want to keep re-electing the dolts that bankrupted your state and stripped you of your rights? Then if you break off and sink maybe I'll throw you a floatie…….maybe…..
HEY were can I get the one in the above photo? THAT's a GUN!!
NYC sees the writing on the wall, in which its Sullivan laws are to be challenged in the Supreme Court. It is probably layering any number of laws into its system so as to have back-up. As the SC strikes down one provision, NYC will have another 150 to fall back on to maintain its violations of the Consitution.
Totally awesome!…
No matter what court rulings say now or in the future, cities like NY, Chicago, LA, etc., will never cease putting any obstacle in the way they can think of to prevent gun ownership. They do not mind having to fight in court, since it is not their money. When they lose, the will appeal, and whn they lose again they will simply try another obstacle.
So if debt is a determiner of whether or not someone should own guns, shouldn't we disarm the US government?? 13+ trillion dollars of debt that most people think will never be paid back–that's a pretty gross mismanagement of funds. I'm just saying….
Good letter. I seriously doubt that they made it through the first paragraph, though. It had too many big words in it.
Homework?…Good onya for doing SOMETHING!
Perhaps we should try them a traitors, impeach them for violating their oaths to support and defend the Constitution, rub their bums with salmon oil and release them into ANWAR so they can get up close and personal with those fuzzy wuzzy polar bears they claim are drowning because of global warming. Imagine it!!
Okay, now that was funny and the reason it was funny is because it is TOO real!! Fortunately, the ejection port on my Sig flings it far enough forward and to the side that there'sl only a one in one thousand chance of a ricochet off the lane wall making a 3 pointer into the…er … "basket." Now watch: the next time I go shooting, one will land right there between the girls!
Diminished capacity?
By the way: is that weapon the guy is holding in the picture up for raffle? I'd like purchase a couple of tickets.
Making his life seem slightly less pitiful? No wait, that hasn't worked, either.
A lot of progressive pet agendas have that at their roots, actually…
<muttering> someone needs to tell Walther to model the ejection port on my ppk better….LOL
Just let me know if you make that 3 pointer ; ) gawd knows, I seem to hit it…every. single. time. <eye roll>
LMAO
And then some!
All I hear from him is crickets so I guess he doesn't know either….
When I write. I try not to lower myself to their level. I know that I'll lose a few along the way. But, their are some lines that can't be crossed.
How many time do we have to win this second ammendment argument with liberals before they just stop?
Guns Don't Kill People. Guns Kill Liberals.
Do you have an aloe vera plant handy? Bag Balm?? Turtlenecks??? They never discussed that hazard at the Sheriff's Academy….
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