It's an insult to our intelligence to suggest this was anything other than an act by an islamic extremist that made his jihadist views perfectly clear. What's astonishing is that this traitor exposed his sentiments within the military and to his colleagues. The fact that the military allowed this traitor to remain in their midst solely as not to appear insensitive is shocking and I would go so far as to tsay the blood of the victims is on their hands as well as Hasan's.

I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that all Muslims are bad based on one man's actions. There are other soldiers in Colorado Springs who committed a series of murders. None of them were Muslims. I am not ready to make the leap that all soldiers returning from Iraq are murderers either. We need to find out what is the cause and not reach a conclusion that puts blame where it shouldn't be. Maybe some men and women are not cut out to be soldiers.

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"not all Muslims are terrorists……………" But recently all terrorists are turning out to be Muslim. Yet very little is heard from the Muslim community condemning the radical Muslims that do commit the acts.

So little wonder at the backlash, and the potential for it. If a groups cannot or will not stand and condemn the behavior of the few bad apples within the group, then the entire group suffers.

When will moderate Muslims stand and be counted, or should we infidels continue thinking they are biding their time?

When will politician understand we know the difference between a Muslim and a Islamic Terrorist Fascist. This country was founded on religious freedom we get it, the question is do the politicians understand religious freedom.

are american muslims being shut out by the media? where's their outrage? and doesn't 9/11 free us all from ever having to hear another backlash speech; those mongrels went untouched even after they danced in the streets to celebrate! speak up now american muslims or forever hold your peace.

Give every Muslim serving in the Armed Forces AND the U.S. Government their discharge letters, thank them for the service, give them a small stipend and send them on their merry way. And someone please slap the shit out of J. Edgar Napolitano.

Have seen over and over today, one sentiment about political correctness. We are done–no more. Speak the truth and PC be damned.

What a bunch of vast right-wing conspirators on the show tonight! Awesome! I hope Fox re-runs this episode this weekend.

Jim Norton does a segment on the Jay Leno Show, and on the rotating set, there's an "I Love Red-eye" bumper sticker pinned to the wall! HA!

If you think this was bad just wait until gays are openly serving in the millitary. We can expect this trajedy to play out on a weekly basis then. It's sad also to note that he often said he was a muslim first and an American second. While that is fine when you just want to blend in and live your life, it takes on a whole new meaning when this is how they express it.

Dude, how much more do you need to read about this guy in order to realize that he was a JIHADIST. PERIOD. He went to a mosque that was led by a radical imam. He tried to contact Al Qaeda. He got in trouble for preaching to soldiers about Islam. He wrote radical Islamic blogs.

Do you need us to hit you over the head with a mallet? Rhetorically speaking of course.

No one is saying that ALL Muslims are bad because Hasan is an evil SOB that needs to be taken out in the most violent way possible. All of us more than understand that you can't group people together like that. It's a straw man argument.

Instead of being concerned that other bases may be in danger of this; that the military needs to stop being PC and start paying attention to people like Hasan (radical people of ALL races, religions, etc.); that our soldiers could be at risk for continued attacks like this – the Admin is worried about a BACKLASH.

Does that sound rational to you?

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Barack Obama may not know the motives of the shooter but I sure as hell do.

Now can I "jump to conclusions"?

Or worse, gay muslims.

Wow, I cannot believe you were dropped for pointing out how this was obviously a case of Islamic extremism. There's been so little coverage here on what is possibly one of the more important issues that has occurred recently. I suppose BH has better things to go after, such as the evils of Sesame Street and Independence Day 2.

i won't blame a group for one man's action, but i will blame a group for the group's inaction! maybe CAIR's condemnation of this tragedy is enough for muslims, but to me it's ONE person waking up to the mic and issuing the expected response.

thanks, I knew he was the editor, but I don't know of a pipeline to him. I'll use the tips/feedback section.

LOL I'm a big fan of big hollywood but that's hilarious.

Of course this article is correct. But I must say I'm not exactly offended for one simple reason: I no longer bother with the Legacy Media at all. I'm not even convinced there's a significant portion of the populace left that does either.

This depends on the definition of terrorism. Every religion has alleged terrorist organizations. However, since the United States is at war with many Muslim nations throughout the globe, it seems as if every terrorist is turning out to be a Muslim. If this guy is being called a terrorist, then others of different faith who commit the same crime should be as well. In the minds of American today, it is not possible for someone who is of a different faith to be a terrorist. The Muslim community has no need to be apologetic; they didn't even though the crime. This guy was a psychotic killer. Don't blame his religion for his actions. If he wasn't Muslims, then the word of terrorist wouldn't have emerged in your mind.

If someone kills people around the world in the name of capitalism or gain or resources or to spread their government ideologies, and I point it out. Will you be with me 100%?

Good point, that explains why we heard nothing about those Jewish guys flying airplanes into buildings.

Political correctness gone terribly wrong. As we whistle, by the graveyard, with Barry and witless minions there will sadly be more of this kind of attack. Muslim goons do not fear our Barry, it’s far better to be feared when dealing with uncivilized Islamic barbarians, oh well.

They can't say anything, 'cause if they do, they will be killed!

I really don't see much distinction between the massacre at Fort Hood and the attack on the Cole in Yemen in 2000. Both were attacks against our military. Fort Hood was domestic, but Yemen was supposed to be a "friendly" port. 9/11 happened a little over a year after the Cole. It's time to end the political correctness and start paying attention.

Isn't that just like saying a suicide bomber, except they only blow themselves up and spare the infidels.

Psychiatrists? From the report I saw on CNN this was about middle-aged balding men who were fed up with other people having full heads of hair.

Backlash? Except for when blacks riot over some jury decision when has there ever been a backlash? So let's imagine what a "backlash" might look like and what might happen if one ocurred: If a white person or persons attacked a mulim person(s) the resulting news coverage and condemnation would be 10 times that which we've already seen about terrorist Hasan. If a black person or persons attacked a muslim it would go unreported as "backlash". The media would call it a "fight", "altercation" or "assault". That is simply the truth.

Indeed. As if we're all hateful, violent rednecks just rearing to enact vengeance on all Moslems. So condescending.

Yes. Capitalism is about making money, not killing innocent people. If people were killing innocent people in the name of capitalism, I would do everything I could to distance myself and my ideology from those committing the crimes.

Which is exactly the point. If Islam really is about peace and love and harmony, yada yada, the other muslims should be doing everything they can to speak out against the renegades who are making their religion look bad.

I, for one, am not seeing much of that.

I was just saying that at the dinner table tonight. Give all muslims an honorable discharge, have them leave their weapons and please leave. J Edgar Napolitano is an incompetent, I agree, she should exit stage left and the sooner the quicker.

Political Correctness used to just kill people careers. It now kills people.

When a Muslim steals a loaf of bread from the grocers, we don't think about his religion. When he commits murder while emulating every single behavior of the jihadists we are currently at war with, then yes, religion is instantly the issue. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two scenarios is scary, to say the least. Especially the fact that a lot of people in this country have the same deficiency in critical thinking as you do.

Diversity is great, as long as we all share some common values, one of which is the belief that the USA should continue to exist. Enjoying the "richness" of a diverse culture with those who wish to saw your head off seems a bit odd.

I think this person's moniker reflects the fact that his brain cannot apply any relevant facts. Retard. Go back to DU.

A very astute observation. If you thought of it first, would you mind if I use it from it time to time?
Most of the smiles are on the faces of those that cower behind the protectors of society. They have the luxury of preaching PC b.s. because it has really not affected them; you know, living in ivory towers kind of insulates them from the consequences of their views. But sooner or later, the barbarians may very well breach the walls and visit extreme harm upon the sheep.

I can't help but think some day they'll be selling out the colosseum feeding Muslims to the lions.

Oh wait……………………………..thats not politically correct………………………sorry.

But just wait until you see how much those front row seats will set you back…………..and you can forget about the balcony seats, they'll be reserved for the politicians and their wives.

The net result of protecting the bad is always to hurt the god, not to protect them, because it robs people of the ability to differentiate the bad and the good so rather than defaulting to good, people default to bad because it's safer that way.

Every great empire eventually crumbles. However, America will be the first world power to die by suicide.

Liberalism is not only a mental disorder – it is a terminal disease.

Blame Czar!!! oh *snap*! Excellent point, my friend. That comment had me rolling. So true, as well.

Conservative views in the military tend to limit one's pay grade to no higher than Lt Colonel.

I have to admit that after reading the Sec. of Homeland Security's comments and also reading Gen. Casey ( I believe) comments from over the weekend, I wonder how active our recruiting of the SS would have been during WWII if the current crowd were in power then? To put it in more modern terms, have any of these people understood Jerry Seinfeld"s "What were you thinking?" when they lament the impact on cultural diversity when 13+1 (one pregnant victim) people are dead by an individual that clearly was shaped and warped by the teachings of Islam? To say this is ridiculous understates the situation IMO.

Yet another disastrous affirmative action, PC hire. The government's full of them.

When are we going to stop this PC and affirmative action BS and resume judging people on their merits and accomplishments, and calling to attention quickly abherrent behavior?

Not soon enough for the thirteen innocent souls this evil f0ck3r blew away.

I agree completely. This just shows how deeply political correctness is entrenched in many institutions, especially government and bureaucracy. But the elected government and their parasitic bureaucracy will still not face the real threats to our society. Common sense screams out to be heard.

Greg has nailed it. Whining a about nonexistent backlash gives cover for future would be terrorists. This is the 4th Muslim attack on fellow soldiers that I know of. There is no telling how many such attacks were stopped. It is past time for the idiots in our government to stop tracking NRA members and start tracking fanatical Islamist's.

and if she's not too tied up, maybe she could work hard on securing our borders, too!

IS it a conservative thing to report someone in your ranks that means to do you and your harm? Would a WWII guy fighting in Europe keep quiet if a guy in his company sported a swastika on his arm, kept quoting Mein Kampf with a dreamy expression and kept on saying "When is Hitler gonna come? We have Jews here that sure need to be carted off to Auschwitz."

As far as I am concerned, we have become a nation of utter idiots who, if we accept this version of reality, deserve to get what's coming.

If the leftie liberals don't want to say that this guy is a terrorist, can they at least acknowledge that was a hate crime?

Putting aside the fact that we do have loyal muslims in the military, Hasan is why Israel doesn't have Arabs in their military.

Obama will never accept blame for any of his mistakes. He has never done anything like that, and he never will. All of his admissions were attributed to the weaknesses of others, not to himself.

This is a good example of a society who has decided not to defend itself.

And the Chron continues, underneath the headline blaring that the shooter acted alone…:
http://www.chron.com/channel/houstonbelief/common...
Since the freaking assault and slaughter happened, the Chron has been recycling these two blogs, over and over again.
Casey needs to be stripped of command after placing the importance of diversity over soldier's lives.

HEY YOU ! OBAMA ! YEAH, YOU !
What part of “ KILL THE INFIDELS “ is hard to get ???
It's called “ ISLAMIC TERRORISM “. got it ??

What would it be called if you, the “HOCUS POTUS”, were his victim ? I know what i would call it. “ FRIENDLY FIRE “

You make joke. Wight?

these media characters befuddle me. i laugh at them and they are befuddled.

America's MSM are living up to Stalin's observation that "Intellectuals are not society's brains, but its
sh-t."

What's next, forced vaccinations for all right wingers to prevent them from catching PTSD and "goin' off" on some non-deserving America Hating Radical Islamist Terrorist?

Maybe I am over reacting a bit, but I think that all muslims should, and after this recent event more likely will be, heavily scrutinized, and they should. I know nothing of the support personnel, but this Hasan guy was waving red flags all over the place, and something should've been done to remove him from service post haste. In regards the Homeland Security chief Napolitano, where were they? Falling down on the job, obviously!

Yes, Mr.President, let's not jump to conclusions based on eyewitnesses
who have seen and heard the murdering terrorist for years.

At least, not till you, Mr. President, can sit down for a beer summit with Dr. Hasan
and Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley, who probably acted 'stupidly' and find common ground.

The lefties all assume we are as stupid as they are. NO ONE on the right thinks all muslims are jihadists – NO ONE. But that doesn't stop the lefties from preaching to us about tolerance, to the point where this man's writings and rantings were ignored by the military brass because to pay any attention might lead to accusations of profiling. If you can't profile a guy who's raving about jihad, you deserve a Darwin award.

Liberalism – AIDS for civilization.

Not every one. Just the ones whose backgrounds we don't know, or who show signs of jihadist thinking, as this guy did plain as day over a period of years. The fact that the brass refused to pay attention makes it clear they have been cowed by the PC police. Time to throw the PC police into GITMO, for the backstabbers that they are. Not sure if the military brass can be cured.

Unlike, say, spouting off about some Cambridge police officer's motives.

When some nut blows up an abortion clinic, the first thing the media does is find out what church he went to. The blame is put on every pro-life conservative Christian in the country for spreading their "extremist views". You never see any liberal leaders tippy-toeing around or falling over themselves trying not to offend the "Christian Community" when such a crime happens, either. Yet Muslims commit acts of terror every day all over the world, and we're not supposed to even suggest that perhaps there's a pattern here.

There are superiors that should have made the call and brought this guy in for a courts-martial.

I suggest, "Dereliction of duty, under Article 92, UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice)".

Nooooo! Don't you know that the motives are unclear. It's all speculation. I heard Rachel Maddow say it tonight so it must be true.

Whenever a young male is involved with one of these shootings, we are immediately force fed a bunch of talking heads wondering whether violent video games was the cause of the behavior.

When a young male Muslim is involved with one of these shootings (while shouting Allahu Akbar), we are not allowed to wonder whether Muslim extremism was the cause of the behavior (lest we be branded racists).

In all fairness, all Michael Yon said was that we should wait a while until the facts come out. And that is true as far as it goes. The media do report falsehoods when they cannot get anything else (remember Katrina and the Superdome full of nonexistent bodies?)

I don´t think we must wait til after Christmas to form an opinion in this case. To come up with a solution is harder though. And sometimes it takes days, sometimes it takes months or years to know what exactly happened. How often have we said the same thing when some disaster or atrocity was reported from Iraq? Or when that bridge in Minneapolis fell down and the left tried to blame the taxcutters?

Kill the fucker. Ill do it for you. I was at Hood in the 80s and worked in that area. I cant for one second think why anyone could condone or even try to rationalize this sick fuck and his insanity. Someone should put a gun in his mouth and shout God bless America before they pull the trigger. I will volunteer.

Sign me up! I'ma "bad" guy too!

Greg, this is one of your VERY Best. You are 100% correct in your assessment.

I'm a US Marine, let me tell you if I ever met a marine of any rank who said this stuff I'd tell my chain of command, and if it got to the LTCol level and this Jihadi didn't go away I'd request mast, up to Wing, MEF, all the way up to the Commandant. Those that suspect others are Jihadis should be reporting what they know. But it seems we have forgotten 9/11. That's the big sad moral of the story.

I had to sit through 3 hours of suicide prevention training and watch a stupid video that was produced by the Marine Corps just for us. The reason is the number of suicide deaths last year was kinda high. In fact the number was comparable to the number of killed or wounded by this one terrorist attack. This statistic ought to be a real bone in the craw of the politically sensitive generals. Somehow they are going to have to develop a method for how to prevent these casualties in the future.

Perhaps the "backlash" so feared by our elite (military and civilian) is the one that takes the gov. back and restores the founders documents they have worked so many years to destroy, just a thought. Maybe that is why they are so afraid of the fury they see from former and current military? When the poeple who believe to take from one's labor to give to another admit it is Marxist, then and only then can we debate. If they can't admit facts you cannot argue facts…only feelings. When those who say all muslim aren't terrorists and then point to Mc Viegh as proof…one wants to kill me because I love Christ the other wanted to be rid of oppresive gov. Me thinks there in lies the fear in our "elite".

But, but, but, but…

President Obama went to an anti-American church for twenty years, and never heard any hate speech from the Reverend Wright. Maybe this was a similar situation?

Hmmm…….

Put away that straw man. The few people who are claiming that "all Muslims are bad" believed it long before these murders, and the vast majority of us don't believe it.

I guess the Cambridge police are an OK target but not a mass murderer;.

What was I thinking?

I agree with the article. There are a lot of people saying Hasan should have been released from the military, but, as anyone who has joined the military and then wished he hadn't, it's not that easy. What would have happened if the military had just released this guy? Everyone who wants to leave would try to pull the same thing. Hasan's father knew of the conflict between Hasan's religion and military duty. If the Army had rejected him because of his religion, the Army would have been vilified for even suggesting that a faithful Muslim didn't want to serve his country. So they believed him when he swore an oath to protect the US and then Hasan suddenly finds out that he may one day have to kill fellow Muslims. That shows the level of hypocrisy that his personal religion allows. No one would be surprised to learn that in serving your country, you may have to shoot and kill Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, soldiers, and sometimes civilians, children, old people get killed, too. But Hasan was not concerned for the lives of his fellow Americans, nor of civilians, only for the Muslims. He was a jihadist.

You just admited you think it is rational for the Admin to care more about a backlash than other bases safety.

You just admited you care about the Admin saving face, than the lives of our military.

These are facts, gathered from the previous 2 comments which can't be denied.

Anything you say, now or forever has no point or purpose.

Of course it is a straw man argument… which is of course… ridiculous.

Liberals all use the same tactic, which Obama uses constantly.

It is either my way, or this insane crazy ridiculous way no one agrees on, which will you pick?

In this case: Either this has NOTHING to do with islam, or you think all muslims are evil and are going to kill us.

Excuse me, what about my third option where we need to not be concerned with being PC with we have known possible threats? SILENCE FOOL THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS GIVEN.

The thing is, it is actually a good thing over time. It is ridiculously weak, and most people can see through it. It only works when people don't care enough to stop it, much like PC things. They will break sooner or later due to overusing it.

There is a difference in being a Jew, and commiting a crime. And being a Jew and commiting a crime FOR Judeaism.

There is a difference in being a Muslim and commiting a crime. And being a Muslim and commiting a crime FOR Islam.

Stop the childish straw man argument, we refuse to submit to illlogical stupidity. The issue at hand is not that a muslim commited a crime, but that a muslim commited a crime for Islam. And that the military had warning he was a radical, but they didn't do anything in order to be PC.

So what's changed since 9-11? Not much.

Remember when James Woods was on the American Airlines #11 practice flight? He did the right thing and alerted the FBI, giving them a scene by scene of what was being planned. The only thing he left out was the left turn at Albany. And they told him … go home and don't talk about this. Three weeks later, mommies and daddies were jumping off the top of the WTC while Islamic folks in Jersey City cheered them on.

And who was held accountable for this at the FBI? Nobody. Instead, we invaded Iraq.

And 8 years later, the FBI still cowers in the face of political correctness. This time, only 14 dead. How can they live with themselves.

And what can be said of the military brass, who still spend millions to search out those 'morally unfit' gay soldiers like Eric Alva, yet quake in their boots in the face of an obvious Islamofacist like Hasan.

At the end of the day, you can't just blame the elites anymore. Americans have to take responsibility for this destructive brainwashing, whatever the cost.

Well stated Greg, thanks. I am getting sick reading the MSM's "take" on how we should react/think about this bull.

In all fairness, all Michael Yon said was that we should wait a while until the facts come out. And that is true as far as it goes. The media do report falsehoods when they cannot get anything else (remember Katrina and the Superdome full of nonexistent bodies?)

I think that's exactly right. The situation when Michael Yon made his post was different to now, when we have facts rather than confusing and often contradictory rumors to rely on.

That's true. This guy shouldn't have been kicked out because he was a Muslim, he should have been kicked out because he attended a radical mosque and contacted jihadis on a regular basis. I only hope that the FBI's failure to act was because they were watching this guy in the hope that he would lead them to bigger fish, and not (as it appers at the moment) out of PC cowardice.

14 dead. Remember one of the soldiers was pregnant.

He announced it as a religious issue. Lets go with it. 14 dead including an unborn American.

Israeli-arabs, arabs that are Israeli citizens, are allowed in the Knesset, they are not allowed in the military.

Gee, like the flak Christians get every time some psychopath attacks an abortion clinic? I don't see any "piss Mohammad" paintings in the gallery next to the "piss Christ" paintings. I don't see Muslim religious expressions sued every time some thin-skinned non-believer sees it. Christians condemn and ostracize folks who manage to warp "thou shalt not kill" into justification to go kill and maim dozens of people, including some of the unborn they claim they're fighting for. Islam gets a free pass, with half of this country trying to keep a mind so open their brains fall out.

A poster in another thread said it: Political Correctness killed 13 people. If not for a brave officer who didn't stop to reflect on her possible racism in shooting him, the count would be higher. Political Correctness should get the death penalty.

hmmm kind of like one of those "have a nice day" smily face over a crossbones.

i have one question. does all this nonsense about how we should not 'jump' to conclusions about this terrorist mean that all these liberals now oppose hate crime legislation? isn't that what hate crime laws do? read into someones intentions or thoughts concerning a criminal act?

Hey, let's face it, as long as one of these sudden jihadis doesn't shoot down a late term abortion doctor, they're golden.

My head is ready to explode in frustration over the need for members of our society and government to appease and explain away something quite simple. I fear that even if the bad guys managed to unleash a true WMD on our soil, they still would not get it.

I'll sign up for the Badguy Brigade! There's a lot of crap to be cleaned up at home and abroad with politicians, so-called journalists in the print and electonic media, and other guilt mongers who want you to believe that white is black, and black is white and that Americans live in a perpetual guilt state !
It's up to the BG Brigade to identify to these people and expose them for the traitors and thieves that they are. Excelsior!

I think OBAMA is the ultimate Blame Czar (thanks, Mr. Steyn). Isn't it OBAMA who assigns blame (especially to President Bush, or th the cops who acted stupidly) for every task that he finds hard to handle…although HE signed up for and campaigned for this job of POTUS? This guy is a large, spoiled child charged with running this country. What a wreck! We must work tirelessly to turn this load of chicken s–t into chicken salad.

It just makes her right wing extremist warning letter all the more insulting

Isn't that a new board game? (Office Space)

"Every religion has alleged terrorist organizations."

Seriously? I'll have to be on the lookout for those terrorist Amish, Mennonites, Quakers, Mormons, etc. Oh, and can't forget the Gideons, going around leaving their Bibles all over hotel rooms…

You associated "gay Muslims" and "blow" without making the obvious joke?

excuse me, peaches, but they're Muslim Terrorists, not "Islam Terrorists". The lesson is: Know your enemy.
Also, "They have proven …" not "They have proved…" The lesson is: Know your own language.

prediction: somewhere near your home there is a car that dons a bumper sticker with the following text:
"I gradgiated the forth grayd, and I vote"

It's not Islam that's the problem. It's religion at large. It's dangerous. Islam is the latest manifestation, but All three religions of the "Holy Book" have used it to justify doing terrible heinous things to other human beings. If you are a devoutly religious person, than based on your stance I would argue that your judgement as a soldier could be suspect.

why not give all religious soldiers a discharge? I'll tell you why. starved of conflict for an extended period, our nation would fall apart. This comes from a man who relies on the defense industry for his living.

Spot on Greg. Unfortunately, more people will probably die before the religion that is political correctness is exorcized from the American experience. Oh, and since this is Big Hollywood, I think the better analogy would have been “like staring at a shark bite and thinking, “boating accident.” This was no boating accident. Lots of apt analogies of willful blindness in that movie to what we are seeing with the Fort Hood murders.

[...] Daily Gut: Backlash Against the Backlash So, denying the role militant Islam played in the Fort Hood atrocity is like staring at a shark bite and thinking, “bicycle.” When a fundamentalist kills thirteen innocent people while shouting “allahu akbar,” Islam isn’t just a small player – it’s got a starring role. And now that U.S. intelligence admits Hasan tried to contact al Qaeda, it should make it increasingly hard for anyone to say otherwise. I say it “should,” but it won’t. Look at the news. Over at Time, thoughtful types speculate over a “secondary trauma” that could have driven Hasan to kill. Never mind terror – one news network tells us we should focus more on “a backlash against Muslim soldiers.” On a major website, they want us to ponder the “next McVeigh.” And our very own Homeland Security secretary says she’s hard at work preventing “a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment.” [Greg Gutfield is so politically incorrect...ed] [...]

Just wanted to say I agree with big7625 on this.

When National Guard soldier Joshua Cartwright shot and killed two Florida deputies in April, he was characterised as severely disturbed. No one investigated his spiritual beliefs. The media, likewise, took a soft approach, last year, when Dustin Thorson, an Air Force sergeant, shot his wife and son at Tinker Airbase and, in 1995, when Sergeant William Kreutzer killed one and injured 18 at Fort Bragg. But when an American-born major with the name Nidal Malek Hassan commits a similar crime he is judged in the court of public opinion based on his ethnicity and religion.

FROM: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5...

Well, that is how many of the current administration see us hard working Americans. Especially those of us in "fly over" country. They see us as more of a danger than those who have already shown themselves to be enemies of America. it's like they live in Bizzaro world or something. Liberals don't just think left, they think backwards to common sense.

Perhaps the reason nobody examined the "spiritual beliefs" of Joshua Cartwright are because he: a. never tried to contact Al Qada, b. never expressed support for suicide bombers, c. never called himself a Muslim first and an American 2nd-while on duty, d. did not tell a neighbor he was on his way to do 'Good Work for God' while leaving to start his murderous rampage, and e. did not yell "Alluha Akhbar!" as he shot over 40 fellow soldiers. Do you think these things just MIGHT make a difference

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[...] And that’s the drill: concern over crimes that have never happened, as opposed to the terror that has. So, denying the role militant Islam…Read Original Story: Daily Gut: Backlash Against the Backlash – Big Hollywood (blog) [...]

[...] And that’s the drill: concern over crimes that have never happened, as opposed to the terror that has. So, denying the role militant Islam …Read Original Story: Daily Gut: Backlash Against the Backlash – Big Hollywood (blog) [...]

Does anyone need to be reminded that Hasan spent many years in the military and rose up the ranks during the LAST administration? Apparently so, I actually agree with the blogger, but note how quickly that's been translated into anti-BO comments. Regarding the Islam defender's comments, when a Muslim commits a crime such as random murder, or beheading his wife or running over his daughter in the name of Allah, the media and public are right to call attention to his religion, or at least the intolerant, and extreme interpretations of it. Muslims should do so well to police themselves and call out those who teach and encourage hate and violence. This re-invention of Islam is new and it must be stopped, whether or not that happens from within is a choice every Muslim now faces.

it is time to stand up and defend our own country in our own backyard! Radical Imams in this country should be deported or imprisioned, for preaching the overthrow of this country. If the government will not do this, the people must stand up and defend each other, People say that Islam is a peaceful religion, but how many religions issue decrees to kill americans. It is ignorant to say that the united states should not link Muslim religion with terrorism, Training camps for terrorism in pakistan funded by our friends in Saudi Arabia, yeah that is peacefull alright. If the moderate muslims wish to live in peace here, then they need to fight extremism, as true american have for decades. Freedom and rights have to fought for and people will die so other can enjoy them, political correctness is for the faint of heart who will not die for their country and for freedom.

Some years ago, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, TSA screeners refused to let an elderly American man board an aircraft because he would not give up a piece of metal the screener said looked like a martial arts throwing star. The gentleman refused to comply and missed his trip.

The genleman was Joe Foss, WWII USMC fighter ace, former governor, former commissioner of the old American Football League, and former president of the NRA. The dangerous looking piece of metal was his Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for valor our country awards.

If we can't tell the good guys from the bad, and bring ourselves to treat them accordingly, we're doomed.

Claiming that Muslim extremists are more dangerous or more prevalent than violent homegrown extremists is dumb. Disturbed individuals come in all flavors, with all sorts of self-justifications for their behavior. Ask any of McVeigh's victims, or the family of Dr. George Tiller, or… pick from thousands of other examples.

Making every Muslim a suspect, as you seem to want to do, is not realistic – Islam represents 25% of the world's population. Homeland Security needs to focus on nutty, violent types regardless of their religious orientation. McVeigh claimed to be a Baptist. We don't need to monitor all Baptists, right?

Re "moaning about why they hate us," well, here's the important question: Which is "safer," friends or enemies? It seems that our latest military thinking in Afghanistan is to "win the hearts and minds" of Afghanis. With that as a goal, WE NEED TO KNOW why they hate us. It's the only way we'll ever be able to bring our troops home.

Or, of course, we could follow your plan: choose to remain ignorant, condemn all "furriners," and start making plans to nuke 'em all, just in case.

You simple-minded creep.

Do you know what the problem is? Religion. This man believed in his religion. If he didn't, he would never have acted as he did. Anywone who actually does what their religion tells them to do (Christian, Muslim, Jew) will become vile and murderous. In the Bible we have dozens of murderous passages but here are a few:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.–2 Chronicles 15:13

If you call yourself a believer, like this man, you are commanded to murder so denounce religion or stop blaming this religious murderer.

When a religious person goes crazy, how do they go crazy? Through their religion. Look at the people who kill abortion doctors or who join cults and take seven wives etc. Crazy religious people express their craziness through their religion.

Dude, your first paragraph (you know the angry sarcastic one) had no relation to the comment you were replying to PERIOD. Cannonball8 never said he wasn't a JIHADIST. Your second paragraph (you know the violent threatening one) also is replying to what no one said. The third bit is ok and you are supporting Cannonball8's point. The fourth simply reiterates the article that everyone just read. The last part seems to suggest you you think you taught someone something despite the fact that you just argued a point never stated, agreed with the point you were replying to, and restated the article.
Does that sound rational to you?

I agree, I think all religions should have to answer for the way they inhibit compassion for the other. I long for a world where Christians aren't killing doctors or harassing gays and Muslims are respecting women and not killing people in the name of God. I long for a world where people are questioned about believing in outlandish stories written thousands of years ago, despite all rational evidence, and then killing people because they believe other nonsense written thousands of years ago.

The guy was Muslim. No doubt about it. But, he also had a personality profile consistent with many of the non-muslim mass killers like the guy that shot up the Luby's in Killeen, The U of T tower killer, the kids from Columbine, and many other mass shooters. Many of these unstable people also have religious beliefs as part of their make up. They are also attracted to the extreme. Do we say the killers of the abortion doctors or the bombers of abortion clinics are representative of all muslims? Did law abiding christians give a noncomittal way to go to these individuals? You bet look back at the statements from the anti-abortion right at the time. You cannot separate this guy from his religion. He was an extremist in retrospect. But, is he a terrorist? Or a crazy guy that clung to the belief that he was killing for Islam? I am not so sure when I look at the behavioral patterns of other mass killers.

There are more rightwing nutjobs at this gathering than a KKK rally. Of course, their motivations are identical: Kill anybody or anything that doesn't pass the guidelines outlined in their seminal tome, "Caucasian Society for Dummies."

You could make the same observation about Scott Roeder and Christianity. There are psychotics of all faiths. I doubt you felt there was anything wrong with the fact people didn't fixate on Roeder's faith as being all that relevant, despite the fact the religious fanatics he was (and is) in touch with espouse violence. That you do so in the case of Nidal Hasan's crime reflects your embrace of the bigoted belief "all Islamists are terrorists" which is no more accurate than believing all Christians are.

Montani's comment continued: Muslims treat women as second class citizens or as personal property of the males. The Koran is online in plain english several places. It clearly states that infidels (most Americans) and Jews must be killed. The person that founded Islam took a 9 year old child as his wife. Despite this, the "Prophet" as they call him is held in the highest esteem by his followers. In the USA if you take 9 year old child as your wife you are arrested for being a pediphile and for child abuse. The Muslim belief is not compatible with the beliefs of most Americans. It is a violent, dictatorial, oppressive religion and members should not be allowed to live in this country. When our country was founded on the basis of freedom of religion it didn't include extremes such as religions that believed in human sacrifice. It therefore stands to reason it doesn't include religions that endanger public safety or that enslave women. I think all Muslims should be removed from this country. To hell with politcal correctness.

Have you tried searching google for reactions? I just did 'muslim reaction to ft. hood' and got a bunch of hits.

Remember what happened after 9/11 people started shooting people who wore turbans.. some of them werent even muslim or from an arab country.

That's what they mean about preventing backlash. People getting angry cus some fucking moron did a horrible thing and taking out it on everyone like that guy.

I am in the military and I have met other muslim chaplains and muslim soldiers. A lot of them are great people that work hard. It would be a shame because of the narrow mindedness of MOB MENTALITY took over and made things worse by harassing and discriminating against them because of there religion.

This is what seperates us from them. We have the capacity for tolerance.

The majority of Muslims have denounced such acts of violence. From the largest muslim organization in the USA,
"We at the Fiqh Council of North America emphasize adherence to Islamic values and principles of peace, justice and fair dealing with all people in every situation. We are deeply saddened with the death and injury of many people in the Fort Hood attack. We express our sincere condolences to the families of the victims and pray for the health and well being of the injured. We denounce such acts of violence and consider them against the teachings of Islam."
http://www.isna.net/articles/News/The-Fiqh-Counci...

Dear, dear, BlameCzar,

Throwing isolate verses, without context and without understanding, out there, one can prove anything they want.

Perhaps you should quote something relative from the New Testament such as," … But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together. One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ “This is the great and foremost commandment. “The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 22:34-40

Scary thought, huh?

You slipped up. You were supposed to blame global warming.

So, denying the role crazed Christianity played in the killing of Doctor George Tiller is like staring at a shark bite and thinking, “greasy playing cards.”

When a fundamentalist Christian kills a women's services doctor while shouting “praise Jesus,” Christianity isn’t just a small player – it’s got a starring role. And now that U.S. law enforcement notes the two-faced stance of the "legitimate" anti-choice movement in their supposed disavowal of the slaying, it should make it increasingly hard for anyone to say otherwise.

I say it “should,” but it won’t… Look at the news.

Thoughtful types have speculated over a “moral justification” that could have excused Tillman's murder. One major website tells us that our very own Homeland Security secretary is hard at work preventing a rise in activity by right-wing extremists and the possibility of returning veterans joining them.

And that’s the drill: when Christ-motivated killers gun down Americans in cold blood in their own places of worship, the first step in our screwed-up world is to chant, “Christian churches are being forced to pay exorbitant taxes.”

The fact is, in churches all over the U.S., the desire to destroy Western Civilization continues. What is the PC thing to do? Avoid “connecting the dots,” but focus on the "troubled man feeling hopeless" in a weird world of women making their own decisions about their own bodies.

But it’s more than that. The defiant radical Christian living in America has contempt for modern life, your lifestyle, your beliefs. Add to this a rejection of female equality, and you’ve got a madman on a mission.

I suppose saying all this makes me a anti-religious hate monger. But that’s the point. When a man kills Americans in the name of Jesus – and you become a bad guy for pointing that out – then it’s time to be the bad guy.

The word Muslim is the participle of the same verb of which Islām is the infinitive. An adherent of Islam is a Muslim, meaning "one who submits (to God)".

So, I would ask, what point are you trying to make by saying that there is a difference between a Muslim terrorist and an Islam terrorist, or was it simply your lack of knowledge that lead you to make the statement you made?

I am not familiar with what you are writing about, so I have not forgotten them, but if they blew up hotels and murdered innocent people, then they are terrorrists. However, we are writing about the current day situation and the inability of the MSM to label a Muslim terrorist as a terrorist. In my veiw, the religion of the perp should have no bearing on whether you are a terrorist or not.

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