Daily Gut: Standards
by Greg Gutfeld
So Mel Gibson’s getting flack for having sex with a woman who was not his wife – something that never happens in Hollywood – but made newsworthy because he’s a hardcore Catholic. Meanwhile, Carrie Prejean continues to be crucified – for she’s a Christian who posed topless to get a job. And of course, there’s Bristol Palin, unwed and baby in tow, talking abstinence.
Of course, when it comes to this stuff, the media shifts into the only gear they know – the typed-in equivalent of Nelson Munz`s laugh.
Yeah, we get it: these Christians are all hypocrites, and you’re not.
But those who point this out so predictably foolishly think the argument ends there, as if a flawed person is somehow proof that the critic’s own moral beliefs – or lack thereof – are superior. But I`ve said this before: to be a hypocrite you need standards. Without standards, you cannot fail to reach them. And being imperfect beings, we are all destined to fail. The fact that we actually keep trying is what makes us human. And interesting.
It’s not that I support hypocrisy. There are folks who are hypocrites from day one -dirtbags who never had standards to violate (you can find them on any reality show). But the media prefers to focus on the failure of people who try, but fail – as though it’s better just to admit you’re scum, and then revel in it.
Larry Flynt exemplified that kind of hero – a man without values who delighted in exposing hypocrisy, but who also admitted to having sex with a chicken.
Talk about lack of standards. That chicken’s a skank.
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"But I`ve said this before: to be a hypocrite you need standards. Without standards, you cannot fail to reach them."
Well put Greg. I may need to steal that line from time to time. I'll try to remember to credit you.
You can't shame the shameless.
Its too bad that the life lesson message that Bristol could explain is avoided by dismissing the messenger. But, if you don't want to hear it, any excuse will do to silence it. Daughter of a Republican? A governor? Christian? This is like hitting the Lottery of Justification.
I think a "hypocrite" is someone who says something is wrong or immoral but thinks it's OK for them to do it.
Mel Gibson isn't a hypocrite, just a sinner. Like the rest of us.
I just got into this with someone the other day. I was being raked over the coals for a supposed violation of my Christian principles (I was accused of being boorish in an argument), and realized that my atheist adversary has it much easier, because without an explicit code of behavior, no one can ever call her a hypocrite. I mean, how do you accuse an atheist of being a hypocrite? catch him worshipping God when he thinks no one's looking?
What I wanna know is, what happens when a satanist is a hypocrite? Would anybody care? Actually, I did encounter a hypocritical satanist once. He was angry about priests who'd committed pederasty, and I'm thinkin', dude, you should be celebrating this. What gives? But satanistic hypocrisy is something I can get behind. I think.
And Al Gore is the pinnacle of responsible energy usage. ..See, I can play the tit-for-tat game too! I cannot begin to imagine that we couldn't find a huge list of preachy, hypocritical libs but then it just devolves into a shouting match.
Though I have to bring Nancy Pelosi…. I heard on Fox that not only was she briefed on interrogation techniques, but that there was a slide presentation involved. I haven't been able to find anything to corroborate that yet, but I have to admit, it got a laugh out of me.
Leftist Hollywood is still pissed that Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" made about, what? $900 million? Those bunch of hypocrites thought it was going to tank and as a result Gibson cleaned up on it. Bristol Palin is a celebrity, a doll like her mother and object of sympathy because of the vitriol from the left and Miss California came in second and is MUCH better known that the actual WINNER, who btw, is towing the company line concerning the abomination that is man/ man or girl/ woman "marriage". Funny how that works out. A liberal scorned…
[...] (May 08, 2009): Apparently Greg Gutfield has written a piece at Big Hollywood (today) that makes almost exactly the same point. Did he read my article? Or are we just on the [...]
As the bumpersticker states:
Christians are not perfect, just forgiven.
Mel Gibson remains one of the most interesting characters ever to grace the silver screen. I'm sorry his marriage is in ruins. I don't know the man or his wife, so I haven't a clue why everything turned out the way it did.
Do liberals have no standards, or are they just set deliberately low (so they can pride themselves on being more "realistic" about human potential). Difficult to tell, really, since the ones who are the quickest to throw stones at Mr. Gibson seem the least likely to hold themselves to a higher standard. Whoopie Goldberg, of all people, called him a "bonehead." If that isn't projecting . . . honestly!
I hope the best for him, his ex-wife and his kids.
Flynt had sex with a chicken? I'm sorry – I'm just – I don't – I mean, I'm thinking, uh, how could it, uh, fit? And did the chicken go first or did the a**hole? Or maybe a chicken peck is a play on the word — but I don't want to go there. I'm sorry. That just – I don't – damn! I was going to have eggs for breakfast! Damn!
Oh, that poor chicken.
And then there's Timothy Geithner.
You know, this is an interesting topic. Someone ought to write a book.
The hypocrite argument seems to always be the go to argument for most liberals I know. Taking their argument to its logical conclusion then, the guy who burned his hand on the stove cannot turn around and tell me not to touch the stove? Who better to tell me not to touch the stove!?
Still trying to figure out how a Christian's hypocritical for showing off the body God gave them, but I'm one of those Cath-o-lic sinners who used to read Playboy just for the pictures.
Mel Gibson will never get cut the slack that multiple-rehab super celebrities have gotten. I feel very sorry for him, though he will survive it all. There is something very serious going on in his life the past few years, and I hope he can overcome it. But as Greg said, even if Gibson can be called a hypocrite, he first had to have standards. He does, and I'm guessing that he is more horrified by his inability to live up to them than any of his snarling critics. Mel Gibson may yet achieve greatness, and part of that would be his coming back from the brink.
I missed it too. I thought he had sex with Woody Harrelson.
There is one big difference. When we sin, we don't have 90% of the press and entertainment industry ready to pounce. Our fall may be just as bad, but generally we can figure that fifty million people won't know about it the next day. I agree with your assessment. I wouldn't want to be Gibson on his way to confession right now. But as a believing Catholic, he knows that whatever he has done, it's through his own most grievous fault, and he also knows he must atone for it. I believe he will. Everything I've seen from him indicates that he is heartily sorry for his offenses.
Perfect
Whoah, man you've been reading my mind. Thank you for writing this up, much better than I've done trying to discuss the same points with people who just want to sneer if I mention I'm a Christian. Of course I can't meet the perceived goals therefore all Christians are bad and stupid and it's all my fault for providing proof. But by the way, please man, please, don't start so many of your articles with "So"!
That's exactly right. The definition has changed. No one lives up to his own standards, but that's not hypocrisy.
Here's a standard that the left holds dear: environmentalism is of paramount importance. Then you look at Al Gore's home, and you read that Ted Kennedy opposes windmills near his mansion, and you realize what hypocrisy really is.
[Shamefaced edit: I forgot the important part! When this inconsistency is pointed out, the person and/or his defenders will point to the tremendous efforts he has made in protecting the environment, or the "carbon offsets" he has purchased. As if that excuses the transgression. I can't believe I didn't add that bit, it was my whole point.]
You're making an assumption about Mr. Flynt's cock.
I am pretty much a non-practicing Catholic. I haven't really thought about my religion until fairly recently. All this animosity towards Christians lately has been subconsciously igniting a slow burn in me. War on Christmas, favoritism toward Islam in some misguided PC quest, Obama telling Turkey we are not a Christian nation, etc. All this makes me want to embrace my religious beliefs. I will just say this, America loves the underdog and Christians survived centuries of persecution. Watch out liberals, Christian Conservatives will take back this country. America may have a separation of church and state, but this is nation was founded and still is guided by Christian values. Mel might not be perfect, but I'll stand by him.
They have no standards, that would be judgmental. Much easier to setup strawmen to attack
I'm not quite so sympathetic towards Mel Gibson. Carrie Prejean and Bristol Palin never asked that their moral values/beliefs be held up to public scrutiny. I admire them both for standing tall when the left made them the issue. Gibson on the other hand made a point of professing a devout Catholicism, including publicizing holding morning mass on his film set, yet now he is apparently an adulterer and is divorcing, despite Jesus' direct words regarding divorce. I don't feel those who consider him an hyporcite for that are being unfair. If some Jews, concerned about the historical connection between Passion Plays and anti-semiticism in Europe, called into question his intentions surrounding his movie, his drunken rant certainly seems to have vindicated their feelings.
Hear, hear, Lawhawk. Gibson's fall demonstrates the inability of the religious to insist on redemption. The road to perfection is made of standards, and most – or all – of us who believe in them will at some point fall hard on top of them. Those without standards aren't criticized for falling because it's expected, dissected and… accepted.
When all's said and done, even if we've lived as best we can, we have nothing to bring to the table of redemption. Apologies for going all Christian on you here, but it reminds me of a line from the old hymn: "Nothing in my hand I bring; simply to thy cross I cling."
Hollywood, the MSM and Perez Hilton are just being themselves. Their self-righteous judgments are of those that wallow in their sinful nature.
It has been my observation that when the Christian stumbles, the morally bankrupt turn out and demean them without reason to feel once again superior. What the morally bankrupt will never understand is true Christians are all about forgiveness for each other and don't have the need to feel superior because the true Christian's universal moral principles require them to practice humility.
Teenie Weenie maybe?
And calling someone a hypocrite doesn't address whether or not the goals/morals they were attempting to uphold have any value. The fact that someone has said one thing and done another doesn't invalidate the truth of what they have said, although it may have compromised their ability to be taken seriously when saying it.
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." I think I stayed a Lutheran over the years partly because I've failed so many times at being the person I should be. Luther is purported to have said jokingly (or not) that the Lord loves a lusty sinner, there's so much more to forgive. His sermon on Grace brought me back from the brink more than once. If you confess your sin to God, and are truly sorry for what you have done, He will forgive you–even though you don't deserve it. More times than I care to remember, I had to say "out of the depths I cry unto thee, Oh Lord." You never have to apologize to me for going all Christian on me. Although you may soon have to explain it to some of our trolls.
I'm amazed the left would hold Mel to standards they refute, not to mention the hypocrisy of calling him out on something, no doubt, many of them do or have done. Mel is celebrity and celebrity sells advertising, no matter what the story is about. In Left World everyone is fair game–if they choose to take the shot. 'Values', beyond good ole capitalism never enter the picture.
Very true. Drat those straw men. Although it's usually pretty easy to pick them out and expose the lib's argument as the usual fluffy, stream-of-consciousness drivel that just keeps making conservatives look better and better (and liberals more and more difficult to suffer gladly).
More only comment is that I think you fail to understand hypocrisy. It isn't failing to live up to your standards. Anyone who sets themselves high standards will likely fail sometime. I think some foul language is wrong but I sometimes slip ans use it. Christians think all sin is wrong but know that we all sin. If you admit your falling short of your 'ideal' it is not hypocrisy.
When you say that having sex out of marriage is wrong but do it yourself without guilt or concern, then youare a hypocrite.
Beautifully put. Thank you.
http://www.dailygut.com/index.php?i=2961
from roughly two years ago…
"To be a hypocrite, you first must try to be good. You need standards. "
which is why I said, I've said this before….later.
and that is such a shame………..
I remember the line from the Bill Cosby movie where his spirit leaves his body and he thinks he is a ghost. The start of the movie the cab driver (I think) is a nutjob and asks him if he has committed his soul to Satan.
His response was "gee you know I have been meaning too but who has the time"
Nothing personal to you VIM, but I gotta remember the next time I get a Facebook request asking “Top Five Moments in Time You’d Travel Back to Experience…” to choose the birth of the assjack who put the “Separation of church of state” fallacy into the vernacular, such that people believed it as truth.
It’s not in the Founding documents, it’s not in the Amendments and, God willing, it never will be. Freedom of / from a state-run religion … those are. In the words of the almighty Donger: Eeesh!!!
Again, nothing personal, Vengeance. You just sparked my fire and I actually thank you.
I vote we campaign to put an end to the collapsible comment streams. Who's with me?
LawhawkSF
Can one not show that something is good even if they fail to follow it as well. Oddly enough the bible itself has an answer to this question:
"Let him who is without sim throw the first stone". Perhaps the Liberals should give that some consideration
I have nothing against reporting about a Christian’s failings. I just have a problem with the fact that millions hypocrisies are overlooked if someone belongs to the Church of Global Warming.
Greg, I love your Gregalogues almost as much as I love shorty robes. Come by later and pick up Bill's Village People costume, please.
All atheists are hypocrites.
Put a gun to their head and they find God pretty darn fast.
Is Breit Bart a democracy?
AlistZ,
I am a Catholic and I can tell you this. Mel Gibson’s Passion of the Christ is probably one of the closest interpretations of the Gospels regarding the passion that I have seen. There was nothing in there that deviated from Church Canon.
If some Jews want to have concern about his film I suggest they start with the Pope. I read the articles in the LA times by many self professed Jews demeaning the film and Gibson in horrific insulting manners. Quite frankly if that many on any one group of people said so many things about me, attempted to derail my career for simply producing something of value to my faith I would not expect to be civil about them if a cop brought the subject up while I was drunk. So while I don't condone it, I understand.
(cont)
Is this article straightforwardly reporting about Mel Gibson? Or is it a commentary about standards that makes reference to other reports? Seems to be the second.
On that same token, when the media bring up Sarah Palin's unwed daughter and her out-of-wedlock child – there shouldn't be a question of PRIVACY because (in the same spirit that Gutfield isn't invading Gibson's privacy) the significance of the story isn't the pregnancy, but Palin's views on abstinence and the irony of it all.
Quite frankly I find the idea that these people would lecture me on what my Religion was allowed to teach to be very bigoted and hateful. Especially since anyone who spent one minute researching the Passion would understand that on Easter Sunday Catholics identify themselves as coming from the Jewish faith when they recite the lines in the liturgy. They are not blaming Jews for killing Christ they are blaming themselves. Every sin we make is a nail in the cross on Calvary. That sort of thing.
If someone else is too shallow, vengeful and bigoted to try to understand that then I would appreciate that they just not see that movie and stay out of the discussion. I am very passionate because I had to go to lunch with a liberal colleague from work who happened to be a Jewish atheist (his term not mine) before the drunken rant incident who would not stop talking about this movie. After explaining the above and explaining that it was in fact what my church taught me. Instead of having the grace to change the subject or modify his vitriol he preceded to lecture me on what I had the right to believe. After that I have had 0 empathy on this subject.
The left just loves it when a pronounced and famous Christian has a shortcoming in their life. It's not only their way of tearing down somebody who is a supposed better person than they are – but it is a way to pull down Christianity in general. Although it is unsaid, I think it makes them feel better about themselves.
And that's what they don't get. People of faith aren't any better than anyone else – and we will be the first to tell you that. We hold ourselves to a moral compass and set of guidelines because we genuinely WANT to be good people.
Not better than anyone else. Just better than we can be.
And he who is without sim cannot make a cellphone call on AT&T. We should just take all the liberals' sims away.
Just teasing you–I couldn't resist the typo. You are right, of course. The Bible makes it very clear that if we were without sin, we wouldn't need salvation. And that statement came from the one who was without sin makes it clear that the rest of us don't qualify. More importantly, it showed that the only one who could have cast that stone would not do so. He simply took her by the hand and said: "Go, and sin no more."
The commentary that erupted over Bristols comments about being an unwed mother just reinforced the idea that the left never truly grow up. They come to the defense and complete understanding of a teenager's mind set of how the world should work. They agree whole heartdly with the young naive mentality.
"I wanted to do it so I did and you just have to accept that I did it and be ok with it."
When an adult makes a statement like this about a potentially bad decision they are about to make in their life. It usually means that other adults refuse to listen to them complain about the repercussions that come from that bad decision. Rational adults end the complaining with a quick, "I told you so."
When a teenager makes a statement like this it's up to the parents to bring them back to reality not the media and pundits job to play understanding teenage friend.
My mother imparted many wonderful keys to life and here are just two of them:
Life isn't fair
You'll understand "why" when you've grown up
Just keep spouting your values and depicting yourselves as victims. Run to the Religious right and there damnation to hell – nose in the air – snobbish – holier than anyone – and I will laugh as the Republican party continues to be even less relevant. Hahaha
Leftards are ignorant of what God reveals about the nature of man, so I beat them about the head and shoulders with, "The Conundrum of Paul" as if it were a blunt instrument:
"The good things I want to do, I do not do, and the bad things I do not want to do are the very things I do… As I am a new creature in Christ, it is not I who does this, but the principle of sin that lives in my flesh [And, leftards think the idea of sin being programmed into our DNA is something new *rolleyes* - Huc]… Who will save me from this body of sin and death?" – Paul
Which was summed up nicely thus:
"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." – Yoda LOL!
Kind of the difference between lying and misremembering.
I agree for the most part, but Liberals do have a religion, they believe in government. They believe that government is the solution to all problems, that it is better and more efficient and fairer than the private sector and that it should have as much money as it needs to do what it needs to do.
But Liberals aren't crucified when they send their kids to private instead of public schools, when they give money to private charities instead to to the government or when they cheat on their taxes. Why is that I wonder?
No, but "Bart" isn't a last name either
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I agree that it's annoying, perhaps an option to turn it off or on?
God, when is this going to end? The abstinence-only/anti-contraception beliefs that have been, and continue to be, attributed to Sarah Palin are a BIG F**KING LIE, plain and simple. Ditto for the creationism and the book burning, not that the left has ever let facts stand in the way of indulging their orgiastic hatefests.
Your posting name describes you to a T.
That is the nub of it. The anti-faith cultural left are quick to condemn any failing when it is by a conservative but by not promoting any standards to live by themselves, they really don't have any standards to live up to, which you can call hypocrisy or the ever-present "double" standard. The left really are fueled by class envy, identity politics, and always always ad hominem attacks. But when they've alienated enough of the average honest people, they'll be back to wondering why average people can't appreciate how smart and witty they are.
The fascist leftist mad dog liberals are all one dimensional thinkers. This is why everything they think, say or do all turns to crap. This is nothing more then HATE towards a conservative in Hollywood. For years Mel was their 'token" conservative whom they all loved to have a their parties, and be in their films. He has worked with every leftist animal in the business, as a matter of fact they all fell over themselves to be in one of his films. He has worked and is in business with many jewish people for years and years.
Mel an Irishman, born and raise in upstate NY and move to the land of OZ in junior high. There he had to fight his way to get the respect from the Aussies because he is a Yank. They even cut his face almost off at 17. Mel was brought up in the exact same Roman Catholic faith I was in the Boston area. We are both pre Vatican Catholic babies. There is nothing wrong with the Church of Pope Puis XXII. I am a lazy Catholic because the church went mental in the late 60s as did the rest of this mental country. My point is this, since the late 1970s Mel Gibson is now what he has always been. He spent all these years as a devout Catholic, he is a Irish hell raiser, he is a drinker, he has ran around on his wife off an on with girls outside the film biz through they years. How can any kid at the age of 28 be called the sexist man alive for a decade. What is it like to know that you can bed any girl in the world, anytime you have the urge too. Then you are working with the prettiest woman on the planet who are probably flirting with you just to see if they can get you into bed. From my point of view the guy was pretty tame in his behavior. If that have been me, I would have lived like Errol Flynn living like the wind, with no regrets and the libtards would be the last thing I would even think about.
Part II
Everything in this business is a game. Now, if Mel was this big hypocrite, you think all his leftist maggots who have no sin would have notice his lack of morals and anti-semitism all through these long years when they worked with him and had him in their homes? They all loved him until he made THE PASSION, then all hell broke lose, I wonder why?
I guess Mel who was their little conservative token, betrayed them. Now, how can they have then him back in their homes after he made a film that is nothing but a lie. The idea that the Jewish Sanhedrin set up a jew to be killed by the Romans is racist Now, we all know that Christ was killed by the North Koreans who put the pressure on the Romans to kill this christian carpenter apprentice who claimed he was the Messiah. How can their token do this to them? Then to add insult to injury, Mel had the guts to pay for the entire production, which is against the rules in Hollywood. That they can deal with to a certain degree but the fact that he paid for the distribution and made 600 million and he didn't even pay out any tribute to not one person or distribution company. This was just too much for the mad dogs to handle. So they went after him, his Catholicism, his father, his film, his family, his lifestyle. They got him to make a confession on TV about his drinking and his sins from the pure and holy media, the holy Hollywood druggies and every kind of low life that runs this media and town. Mel became a billionaire from the PASSION. They HATE him for it and if he breaks wind he is attacked and condemned. Even the executives from Disney, who happen to be Jewish came out and said that they would never ever work with Mel again and, this is going on while Mel is in Mexico making Apocalypto that is funded and distributed by Disney.
We live and work in the land of bullcrap. Mel came home from Mexico and I believe he must of had a spat with the wife and took off into the night with a bottle of booze. Only a married guy with 20 plus years of marriage will do that. He is a regular guy having a regular fight, but he is a billionaire actor who can have any gal on this planet. So he heads to Moonshadows to drink and vent. There he is the perfect gentleman, meets girls, talks to patrons, takes photos and he decides to head home. He is drunk and feisty and he gets stop by sheriff deputies that he personally knows. One of the Deputies happens to be Jewish and Mel knows him and one word leads to another and all hell is let lose. The media turns Mel into a war criminal, he goes home and must of have the biggest fight with the wife. He goes to rehab, I would have gone on my schooner and taken off to the south seas to that island he bought in Fuji. My flag on my schooner would be the Italian salute.
IT was at this time Mel and his wife quietly separated. I don't remember how many years ago this has happen, but this was a huge strain on their marriage all this media coming at you and comparing you to Julius Striker because you had a brain fart with a cop. If Mel had kept his mouth shut, but they still would have attacked him for being a drunk driver who is a religious ultra conservative.. Since Mel owns his own Church I guess he has stay in the Church praying the rosary when he isn't working.
This is why you can't allow the mad dogs to attack you to the point your life is ruined. You have to defy them and drive them out of their minds. They are going to call you every vile name anyways, even if you kiss their butts. So why get along with dogs that will bite you if you pat them, kick them. Why is Mel fooling around with some dime a dozen bimbo on a beach, with his kind of juice, he could do so much damage to the pop culture and have a slew of conservative filmmakers out there making films and attacking this fascist pop culture we are all swimming in. Then, again I'm Sicilian and there is no way I'd let this pressure break up my marriage and with a billion dollars behind me to make films, let the games begin….
GG, you just personalized the old joke:
Q) Why did Larry Flint cross the road?
A) He couldn't get his penis out of the chicken?
If anyone is showing snobbery, it's yourself .
*MissQuinn*
Great point, Greg.
In order to be a hypocrite, you have to have standards from which to fall short. A society devoid of hypocrisy would not be utopia, but hell.
Another version of that line is "Hypocracy is the cost that virtue pays to vice."
At which point they call you a bigot and the MSM calls them the winners of the debate.
A society devoid of standards is hell. We live it, we interact with this insanity daily. How many times have you shivered with anger because of gross incompetence or out right lies at the end of the work day.
When man/women are left to set the bar on anything in America we always aim down. Who do you know, or even heard of that has failed out of high school. I'm guessing close to none, you can't fail out of high school. It's not an option because the Gov. pays the school for you to be there. It doesn't matter if you learn one thing all that matters is that at the end of the day the school could tally you as part of their pay check.
I guess I must rephrase it's not that the left sets the bar low or aims low it's more along the lines that they choose to dismiss the bar entirely. Why even have a social marker that helps dictate whether the things that we do better society or our family or even ourselves. I'm pretty sure that the Bible includes many warnings about what Mel walked himself into.
I read somewhere that Mel is bipolar – which would explain his behavior a lot. I am reminded of what St Paul said (paraphrasing) – "why can't I be the person I want to be rather than the person I am". I am sure that he lives with his own demons as do most of us…
IWell I think without them constantly being shown they are more of an annoyance than a help. You don't know what people have responded to without opening it -
"All this animosity towards Christians lately has been subconsciously igniting a slow burn in me. War on Christmas, favoritism toward Islam in some misguided PC quest, Obama telling Turkey we are not a Christian nation, etc. All this makes me want to embrace my religious beliefs."
I'm not a Bible scholar or anything, but… I'm reasonably certain that Christ wasn't looking for people to "come around" out of spite…
"There was nothing in there that deviated from Church Canon."
I was educated in the Catholic School system from Kindergarten to High School. Eleven of those thirteen years were spent in Church-adjacent schools. For four of those years I was an Altar Server.
Now, I won't lie and say I was the BEST student, so maybe you can enlighten me as to which parts of Church Canon state that Satan menaced Christ with a demonic baby, or sent an army of goblin-children to make Judas kill himself, or wherein Jesus is credited with having invented the Big Table, since I must have missed them on the first pass?
"Though I have to bring Nancy Pelosi…. I heard on Fox that not only was she briefed on interrogation techniques, but that there was a slide presentation involved."
But did the slide presentation have pictures and illustrations?
If not, Nancy might not have understood it.
I am with you, but who do we campaign to?
I have tried postings comments here. I have used the feedback form. I even sent Breitbart a pm via Facebook.
I am not sure anyone is at the wheel.
"Mel was brought up in the exact same Roman Catholic faith I was in the Boston area."
Uh, Jack… no, he wasn't. Mel was brought up by his father, who is NOT a run of the mill pre Vatican II Catholic practioner – he's a radical who publishes anti-Vatican conspiracy books that'd make Dan Brown blush.
You're Poster Boy for what Gut's talking about.
No introspection, no point to your post, just NEEDERNEEDERNEEDER so you never have to contemplate what a vacuous, two-dimensional dweeb you are.
I dunno if any of these examples are "hypocrisy." I DO know that they are funny as hell.
For years, Gibson was propped-up as the "good" Hollywood guy with the long stable marriage with credit for this given to his religious fixations. Now he's caught running around on his wife with a chick half his age? Heh. Look, I feel for his kids, but man… that's BEAUTIFUL; both for the continued schadenfreude of those of us like myself who got lambasted by our Christian "betters" for daring to speak out about the virulently anti-semetic Passion and because it deprives the morality crowd of another icon. I feel like smuggling a bottle of Manischewitz into Hooters for a celebratory toast
As for Miss California… first things first: WOW, is she less hot and COMPLETELY different-looking without the makeup – they must have to SANDBLAST that stuff off.
Anyway, the person who should learn the biggest lesson from this is Perez Hilton: He shouldn't have jumped the gun. He's been in sleaze-journalism long enough to know that EVERY reasonably-attractive model/actress has compromising photos or history somewhere, and that it'd be MUCH more fun to let her win and then watch her crumble in the wake of their innevitable release. I mean, think about it: Had she won anyway after her answer, the anti-gay blogosphere would've made her their new EMPRESS of upstanding-moralism… and then these would've come out and sent the whole thing into a tailspin. I mean… wow, that would've been AMAZING.
Bob, you have always had a bug a boo about Mel and his film. You're a Catholic from Boston too, but you a post Vatican II Catholic. I have my own problems with the Catholic Church and its teachings post Vatican II. That was the biggest mistake Pope John XXIII made, it got way out of hand. I don't agree with a lot of his Dad's views on the anti-popes or his views on the holocaust. I don't agree with my own Dad on FDR and that time period. Mel has his own views, you will never give him slack as most liberals won't. Why that is, I will never figure it out. I know a lot of people who know him personally and they are both liberal and conservatives, so I get first hand accounts of the guy and how he is. Eventually I will meet him
since we have a close mutual friend. There is a whole here going on that you will never know or read about and it is nothing that the media will tell you. I won't throw him under the bus because of his Dad's views. If I did that I would lose half my friends from the Boston area. You are from a whole different generation then me.
I haven't seen you since DHP, have you ever make another small film? Don't let the years go by, make something to keep your hands in it!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/05/intellig...
Intelligence Report: Pelosi Briefed on Use of Interrogation Tactics in Sept. ’02
has some details.
Obama Bought The Presidency
Er, not to be indelicate, but you are assuming the chicken was still alive. I worked in an engineering office when I was first out of college and we used to tease one engineer about his lack of a social life, and his quest for – relief – shall we say? One wag suggested hollowing out a loaf of Italian bread and filling the cavity with raw calves liver to use as an "aid". This was the thought I had when Gut mentioned the chicken, although it was probably a cornish game hen. I know, I know T.M.I.
http://shermansmarch.blogspot.com
You know if water boarding was so OK and legal and those doing it were not committing any crime and did not have to worry about being prosecuted, I really need to know why Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld got there panties all in a bunch and were so upset about that Linde English woman just putting a leash and collar on a detainee and just standing there with him. And why they felt that there was a real need for her to go to prisom when it was obvious that she did not torture anyone. Gee whiz talk about you Hipocrites and the un favorable treatment that they heaped on that poor English woman. What they did to her was pretty much the same as torture.
You need that explained? I'm far from an expert but I'll try.
Every single use of water boarding was authorized, specifically to obtain intelligence from prisoners which has been proven to have avoided future terrorist plots.
What was done at Abu Ghraib was not authorized and wasn't done to obtain intelligence and as you know it was more then 'just putting a leash and collar on a detainee'.
That's pretty straight forward isn't it?
Hey Bob, I got some great still shots of your wife and mom. Wanna see 'em?
So true.
I know, and it's driving me nuts. One minute I can see the replies and respond to them, and the next time I refresh, POOF, they're gone. I suppose the more of us complain about it, the sooner the tech support people might do something about it (say, ditch the whole collapsible comment stream, considering how many people are reporting difficulties with it). I'm cautiously optimistic that in the next year or so, improvement will come.
The last time I had a problem logging in, I went to my dashboard and hit "Contact" and just sent them an e-mail. Didn't bother with the FAQ section. Got a reply fairly quickly, so I'll do the same and hope for the best. Maybe if enough of us beg them to ditch the collapsible comment stream feature, they'll take pity on us and do so. Or not.
I sent another e-mail just a bit ago, regarding this. Here's hoping.
Descent people are not perfect but simply strive for perfection which is something that one can do with or without religion. It’s much tougher to live and let live, exist with a smile on your face and a kind word for your fellow man. On the flip side anybody can be a smuck, and make no attempt at decency, courtesy, common decorum, the definition of a miserable leftist. Mel Gibson is no Saint, but must be destroyed, because he had the audacity to make a faithful production of, “The Passion,” and attempts to lead a respectful life, and like all men falls short. As a consumer of movies, Mel Gibson is one of the few courageous titans of Hollywood, and produces films of depth IMHO would be the natural choice to produce “Atlas Shrugged,” oh well. All the best to Mel and his family, your decency and faith will get you through.
It is the left's game to accuse Christians of claiming to be perfect and then to slam them for hypocrisy when they are not. However, no Christian I know EVER claims to be perfect; in fact, it is the knowledge of one's own imperfection that drives the Christian's psyche and efforts. INSTEAD OF BEING TONGUE TIED, CONSERVATIVES SHOULD RESPOND IMMEDIATELY WITH SOMETHING LIKE: Nice little leftist anti-Christian propaganda, but No Christian believes his is perfect. That's why he is a Christian. (Feel free to edit.)
Hypocrisy. A favorite tool of the Left. It is yet another shortcut to thinking conveniently provided to apply to Liberal apostates. A conservative that stands up for morals, yet fails to meet his own standard is immediately minimized by the Left. The Sheeple say "see those Christians/conservatives, etc are just a bunch of HYPOCRITES. I have pointed out to my Liberal friends that this means exactly what? one should have NO standards? Lefties are far bigger hypocrites as far as I am concerned, because their "morals" and "values" are all about having the correct position of environmentalism or marxist dogma. The difference between their hypocrisy and say a christian failing to live up to his values is that Leftists more often than not LEGISLATE their principles. We see time and again, From Obama to Gore, americans should not be able to drive the car they want or pick the lightbulb they want and they codify it to law. While they fly around on private jets, own 20 houses that lie empty with the grass being watered every day, and the air conditioned. THAT is Hypocrisy. They are the NOBILITY and we are the SERFS. I hear that Conservatives legislate their morality too. Really? What comes to mind is abortion, which to me doesn't really seem like a "value" as much as a belief in not terminating a human being at any stage of development, but even then, Abortion laws as a conservative pro lifer would "enforce" would occur through the stages of legislation, meaning that ultimately the people choose the law via representatives. However, the abortion laws as they exist now were ENFORCED truly via a non elected body of judges legislating from the bench without having gone through the steps of legislation involving the electorate. So have all of the leftist environmental laws. Judges, not the people make the decisions. So as far as I am concerned, Hypocrisy when it is personal as in the case of Mel Gibson, is his own personal failing, but it certainly doesn't mean that fidelity is no longer a viable value. Hypocrisy as practiced by the left, is not personal, but instead the Left legislating a standard they purport to believe in for the electorate, without their input, and then not practicing those standards themselves. THAT is HYPOCRISY.
Though you've got to admit, if Prejean had answered Perez's question on stage by saying "I support the position of President Barack Obama on gay marrarige," a few thousand heads living west of I-405 in L.A. County and south of 23rd Street in Manhattan would have exploded in unison….
Nanny Pelosi doesn't believe in torture. Yet there she is on my T.V.
BINGO!
We all agree that hypocrisy is bad, but re-defining the word to mean being a person who has standards is a useless transition. I'm sure even Larry Flynt didn't live up to his own standards — no one does — and how depressing is that!
I think we started to change the meaning of hypocrisy back about the time teenagers in the 80s used to try to claim their parents they were hypocrites for saying drugs were bad if the parents had tried them. Guilt-ridden parents failed to confront the stupidity of the argument, and instead questioned their own worthiness. Those teens, convinced they were right and 'all-powerful determiners of truth' have now taken over the media. Lucky us.
Exactly.
It's politiclly incorrect to condemn President Obama for his views on marriage. And, yes, skin color is a factor.
After all, I don't recall gay "marriage" activists (read: thugs) vandalizing BLACK churches when Prop. 8 passed due to strong Black support:
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2008/11/19/are-...
Actually, there are Christian icons in Hollywood who are notable for their REALLY durable marriages.
*Angela Bassett's marriage to her minister husband continues without any scandal. She also hasn't suffered for work despite declining the lead role in "Monster's Ball." Frankly, I've spoken with many a Black woman who respects Bassett taking that stand instead of winning an Oscar by having sex with Billy Bob Thornton.
*Denzel Washington has been happily marriage to his wife Pauletta for over two decades now. It's because of Denzel's squeaky clean personal life that he's been a dependable performer at the box office. Even his villainous roles (e.g., Training Day) underscore how stupid and self-destructive it is to cast aside your principles rather than stand by them.
(cont.)
*Kirk Cameron has been in the acting game for years, but he reappeared on the scene do to the hit film, Fireproof, 2008's biggest indy hit. (That's a remarkable feat since the mainstream media virtually ignored Fireproof's debut.) He has made no apologies for his faith and has even become a surprisingly eloquent defender of it.
*Then, there's Joe Esterhaz, who is one of the most shocking conversions to Christianity since the Apostle Paul. Here is a popular screenwriter who has gone from mocking God's values in his films (e.g., Basic Instinct) to glorifying them (e.g., planned Apostle Paul film). Though he's freaked out some Hollywood insiders, Esterhaz has emerged as a bold and inspiring light in Tinsletown:
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/14683
In short, it is possible to be salt and light in Hollywood despite myths to the contrary.
The only view of Palin's I have seen on abstinence is the following quote taken from a questionnaire regarding sex education funding in Alaska.
"The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support."
That does not say anything about abstinence or underage/pre-marital sex.
If you know of something that is more specific to abstinence that would legitimize the scrutinizing of her daughter, please share.
MovieBob, I think you missed the point of what VIM was saying. It wasnt spite that made him reconsider his Faith. Sometimes it takes something to hit you in the face to see clearly again. It is events as this that can put the important things in life back into perspective and focus.
I don't know what it's going to take to get you trolls to understand that proper spelling and grammar is essential to even remotely being taken seriously. Though that's a stretch at the best of times.
Her name was Lynndie England.
It's their not there as in they got their panties all in a bunch.
It's prison not prisom.
It's hypocrites not Hipocrites (and capitalizing the word is unnecessary).
Unfavorable is one word.
And I'm not even going to bother with the grammar and content of this post– not that you would understand it anyway.
No it was really pretty much evading the fact that the whole Bush regime lied all the time about just everything while hiding behind God and religion.
This is the email alert I got from this site about your post. Hahaha
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I don't know what it's going to take to get you trolls to understand that proper spelling and grammar is essential to even remotely being taken seriously. Though that's a stretch at the best of times.
It's Linda not Linde.
It's their not there as in they got their panties all in a bunch.
It's prison not prisom.
It's hypocrites not Hipocrites (and capitalizing the word is unnecessary).
Unfavorable is one word.
And I'm not even going to bother with the grammar and content of this post– not that you would understand it anyway.
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I bet you call me a liar now.
Nope. I did change her name once I looked it up verify the correct info. My first post was more along the lines of grammar & spelling. But then I thought I'd do a fact check on her name and realized that you didn't know the name of the woman you decided to use as part of your argument. It seemed like something worth mentioning. I didn't know her proper name at first, but I did look it up. Could you claim to have done the same? She was part of your argument after all.
Bush sure would not, care nor would cheney. You just seem like a weak bush defender trying to attack thru hate with no substance. Remember that bush did not even have an opinion about the military lying about the death of Pat Tillman. A hero whose death was said be suspiciously a murder by a medic and it should have been investigated. But even the military was OK with the lies by the military. My using bad grammar is a valid reason for you attacking me and saying my post is useless? You love that fact that Bush and the military was OK with the lies to a real hero's family. Bush loved it too. Or maybe could not be bothered to care about it.
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