The Real Culprits Behind 9/11
by Greg GutfeldEver since I wrote critically about the TV show “Rescue Me’s” attempt to incorporate 9/11 truther conspiracies into their plotline, I’ve received a small but intense amount of hate mail, including even a short missive from one of the actors, a 9/11 truther himself. He said I was “really dumb.” Which, I must admit, isn’t as bad as another truther wishing I would die from AIDS – or the other one who opined on the size of my genitalia. But hey, no one ever said these folks were classy.
“Rescue Me’s” Daniel Sunjata
But it got me to thinking. Many of the letter writers said I should maintain an open mind over such matters, because, as these conspiracy theorists note: it’s not about having the answers, but raising the questions. Some narrow minded jerks might say that’s way too easy – you can raise questions about everything and still be right about nothing – which is why conspiracies are so much fun, after all. But whoever says that would be narrow minded.
And probably racist.
So I decided to take the advice of the 9/11 truthers – and ”reopen” my mind to alternative theories surrounding 9/11. When I did, I came to this startling conclusion: they’re right. We’ve been wrong all along about the terrorists. The real culprits are actually 9/11 truthers!
Oh go ahead and dismiss it- but that just illustrates your own closed mindedness – and proof that you’re simply a pawn in the cover-up.
Seriously, how much is Rosie O’Donnell paying you to say it’s the Jews?
Here’s how my very simple theory works: the common 9/11 truthers are – as a rule – unemployed, living at home, and nutritionally deficient due to a vigorously vegan diet. This gave them the free time, as well the depressed hostility (due to lack of animal protein) needed to plan the attacks. After the attacks, they were initially pleased that America mistakenly blamed bin Laden. But they also knew that, given time, after realizing the innocence of these young Islamic entrepreneurs, the scent of guilt would lead only to them.
Which is why they started building a case against a “neoconservative” government – that secret cabal of Americans who planned the “pre-emptive strike” in order to justify a retooling of the profiteering war machine known as the American Military. This is also why Marion Cotillard, the Oscar Winning actress (“La Vie en Rose”) – who believes the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated to bring down buildings too costly to renovate – also questioned the moon landing. She attempted to indict a government over decades of misdeeds, and throw the scent off her own complicit role in the attacks. After all, there’s no proof she wasn’t in Manhattan during the planning stages, and the same can be said for Charlie Sheen, Willie Nelson and Daniel Sunjata – the truther/actor from “Rescue Me.” I’m sorry, it’s just too convenient for Sunjata – who plays a firefighter (a nice cover, don’t you think) to spout 9/11 theories against our government on a television program – and then come out in the press to say he believes in this garbage.
Most would assume he’s mentally ill. But no – he’s just covering his tracks – while the rest of us close our eyes.
Please, join me in questioning the questioners – and ask 9/11 truthers to prove their innocence regarding that attacks on 9/11. We need to ask Tom Delonge of Blink 182 how he suddenly developed enough of an expertise in “controlled demolitions,” to talk about at length on radio programs. And what of Heather Thomas, the washed up actress who maintains the attacks in New York were designed by the US “in order to take the oil leases.” Clearly she could not have gained that kind of insight into global oil policy simply by banging Lee Majors. Could it be that she, James Brolin and Ed Asner had planned this whole thing after their respective careers evaporated like the engines from Flight 77 (something that only a bomb could do, claims Ms. Thomas).
One thing is certain: Their silence, so far, is deafening.
And damning.
And racist.
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Don't you watch South Park? The 9/11 truthers are a conspiracy from the federal government whose purpose is to make everyone think that FBI, CIA, and FAA aren't really so incompetent that they could let 19 losers with box cutters destroy the WTC and the Pentagon.
I blame the JOOS!!!1111!!!111!!!eleven!!111!!11
Everyone knows that only one tower was supposed to come down because of all the times people walked into the wrong building…they looked so much alike! Had to fix that problem and renovation wasn't going to do it. Soooo….one of the idiot terrorist pilots missed and, well, there ya go, another FUBAR. And that's the truth!
Someday I'll make a T-shirt about it.
I thought 9/11 was an elaborate plot to get Obama elected…
http://attackcartoons.com/article.php?story=20060...
it's similar to holocaust revisionism. they have to be so full of crazy hate to ignore reality and actively seek out lies.
Excellent new direction Greg. This is why I love freedom of speech in America. Our forefathers wanted a quick and simple way to identify these junk science, morons and man was it a good idea: Sunjata, bam gotcha, Farrakhan bam gotcha and Tokyo Rosie bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam. Whew, she could take all day. Wanna start another identification session: Talk about vaccines not being responsible for autism.
I do wonder how both buildings came down so quickly due simply to airplane collisions and fire. I remember Michael Savage suggesting it was because "lawyers" insisted on removing all the asbestos from the buildings.
These "truthers" have ruined things for anybody who would want to ask legitimate questions. Perhaps that was the plan, to ridicule those who question the official explanation.
And no, I don't think George Bush was behind it. The truther movement is just another excuse to Bush-bash.
Yeah, I remember watching the 9-11 tragedy, and sure the twin towers falling were horrible, but I didn't think it was worth invading Iraq to get their oil until building seven fall. Good job in including building seven in their plot or really who would've been upset? Also, a little tip for the cabal that planned the fake 9-11 spectacle…next time just claim you found an Iraqi sneaking into the U.S. with a nuke. It's a lot cheaper to pull off, plus you don't have to keep the hundreds of demolition experts that rigged the buildings quiet, not to mention the workers at Boeing who made the remote control planes and those who fired the missile (it was clearly a missile, c'mon guys…does anyone dispute this) at the Pentagon. Also, you might want to say the hijackers were from Iraq, and not an ally…duh, people! Talk about inefficient government.
agent_j
i've witness the impact on dating out here. hippie guy wants to hit on a girl. hippie girl wants to be hit on. but he can't stop talking about "loose change". it's like a compulsion. eventually she gets bore, wanders off and finds a real man. just sad.
well, that was a few years ago. thought most of it was slowly dying off.
I would look at the notorious PAB. It has to be her.
I have an even crazier conspiracy theory on the JFK assassination.
I think JFK faked his own death. Everyone blames the communists, the CIA, the FBI, the Mob, or the guy who shot him(idiots), but not me. Me not that stupid and guilable. I think JFK was responsible. As a matter of fact you can ask him yourself as he is still alive to this day, although you may not be able to understand him as he is missing a rather large chunk of his head and brain.
Anyone who questions this just further proves my theory. It is kind of like Climate Change, anything that happens with the climate proves al gore was right. Or like how Aging is a zionist consipracy. If you don't think it is a zionist consipiracy how can you disprove the fact that we all age and jews exist? That's what I thought. Your puny logic and reason can't stand up to the truth, or anything that pops into my imagination that I lable "truth."
WOW! I knew GW was a smart man, but to pull off 9/11 without even one person coming forward with any kind of viable evidence/proof, he must be the greatest president ever known. HE WAS BRILLIANT!
Ah, yet another crappy actor on a sinking show that needs people to look at them again. So they just make an I hate GW movie/play or the it was his fault bandwagon.
P.S. I was surprised to hear that Charlie Sheen stopped bouncing up and down on a hocker long enough to notice 9/11. I must be really out of touch
It's no fun believing in what obviously happened, and doesn't boost your ego a single bit.
It's a wonder anybody does.
Of course, it all makes sense now. The incompetent government is obviously not capable of pulling off such an elaborate plan. The 9/11 truthers are the only ones who would have been able to orchestrate such a complex scheme involving thousands or police, firefighters, pilots, passengers, military officials, drivers, security guards, and catering services (conspirators gotta eat).
These 9/11 truthers want others to have an open mind? I think they are so open minded that all their common sense fell out.
I'm currently working in a government office, and believe me, these people have a hard enough time orchestrating a retirement party. 9/11 is way out of their league.
Greg, I think you 'accidentally' took my bathrobe from the Marriot last Friday. Please return it. They're trying to charge me $80 bucks for it.
And even though I agree with everything in your article, it sounds like you were on roofies when you wrote it.
Please, get some help.
"This is also why Marion Cotillard, the Oscar Winning actress (”La Vie en Rose”) – who believes the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated to bring down buildings too costly to renovate"
Actually Greg, I heard the maintenance staff orchestrated the attacks because SOMEONE took a huge dump in the 56th floor men's bathroom that resulted in an unplungable clog. They felt it would be cheaper and less work if they just took both the towers down.
Ben,
Your theory about Jews being behind aging…hmmm, I know you were joking, but I went to New York and most of the Jews there were LIVING IN RENT CONTROLLED APARTMENTS FOR THE ELDERLY! Coincidence??? I think not.
I have said it twice before, so I will repeat myself again. Rosie O'Donnell is an embarrasment to the name O'Donnell.
Here is my offer to her. I will accept her theory as truth the 911 was an inside job if she accepts as truth my theory about the current recession.
My thought:
The current recession started with the housing problem but shifted into high gear last year when the price of gas doubled. The price per barrel went up at a time that oil consumption was falling. The speculators bid the price up. Is it possible that a person (Soros) or group (Move On) with extensive financial backing drove the price up with a purely political goal as their agenda?
If this is true, what was their goal?
Political power maybe?
On second thought, forget it Rosie.
I believe the original plan actually involved dropping Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr onto the twin towers to cause their immediate collapse — Rosanne would be dropped on the one with the greatest number of Jews inside.
(Actually, the 9/11 conspiracy is just a high-octane version of the original JFK conspiracy theories, which were started by folks on the left like Mark Rudd because they absolutely knew that conservatives had to have been the ones that did it, as opposed to some nut who spent a couple of years in the Soviet Union. Same deal with 9/11 — the right, and the non-liberal Jews, had to have done this, because that justifies their long-time hatred of the right and non-liberal Jews.)
I can make up with ridiculous conspiracy theories too. I am convinced that Obamapelosireid made that plane crash last night to make sure that the public attention wasn't on the disaster that is the stimulus bill.
9/11 was a conspiracy. 19 Arab men conspired to kill thousands of Americans. Sounds good to me. But I'm just a regular joe, with no Hollywood fancy pants contracts or hot cars or hot babes (well, my wife is pretty hot). So what do I know?
But there definitely is a government conspiracy to keep the Buffalo Bills from having a winning season. Teams just can't be that bad for that long! I've become an NFL Truther.
I heard that Jason Borne did it, at the behest of Walt Disney's thawed corpse? I also heard the reason they blew up Building 7 was because it contained a Unicorn Meat packing plant, which PETA wanted shut down.
The simple truth is sometimes too easy to accept. Bad people who hate us planned and pulled it off. We could never have committed such a hideous tragedy without major leakage from the co-conspirators. Most government workers (brain dead, bored and unionized) can barley show up to work each day. Only the sadly deranged and gullible repeat this trash.
Who are some of the more notable voices for this stupidity? The usual crowd of Hollywood wannabe's and has beens. The same crowd I already don't listen to for anything resembling the truth.
How could Rescue Me do this to me..Another show that I liked that had to go viral. Please make this discussion a frequent topic on your darling show. You are darling too.
SonjaP, the buildings did not come down quickly. It took almost a full hour after the first impact. As steel heats up, it begins to lose it's strength. When it gets to the neighborhood of 770 deg.F (more or less) it becomes "plastic", has very little stiffness and can no longer bear it's load. Collapse occurs. When the towers were designed, the engineers designed them to withstand the impact of a fully loaded 707 (the largest passenfer airplane at that time. The buildings performed exactly as they were designed to.
Truthers? Truthers? WTF?! You mean "LIARS"… and nut jobs for that matter.
They did not topple over from the planes' impact. The fires caused the closest steel to fail which caused one floor to fall onto the floor below it, (with a force of about 4 times the weight of the falling floor) whic caused the next floor below to collapse onto the floor below it, and so on and so on, and so on. There was no thermite found, no steel showing the type of damage caused by controlled demolition, none of that crap. Everyting performed exactly as designed. The buildings withstood the crashes, and the steel failed only when it was heated beyond it's yield point. This is stuff all architects and engineers learn early in their education. Have you heard any architect (I'm one) or structural engineer say anything else?
'Open mind' … my arse.
This guy, Sunjata, makes my Italian Irish American blood boil. As the proud son of a retired firefighter let me say Dennis Leary and company @ 'Rescue Me' should be ashamed of themselves for giving this man a platform to air his twisted logic. Not surprised to learn the guy is a big Cynthia McKinney fan as well.
Hey and Greg?…keep up the good work, brother.
Good point Dom. Another note to whoever planned the conspiracy. Next time have the buildings go down immediately…bigger impact.
BTW – Great article Greg. This truly should be something we all do from now on, accuse truthers about being part of some plot. One of the best tactics that actually works on these guys is to accuse whoever them of giving their info as clearly being a part of a plot (ala the South Park idea) to confuse the public about the basic malfeasance of government. What a perfect way to keep people who question the government busy than by seeding them with nonsense like this.
I've watched Rescue Me from day one but after hearing about this @ss Sanjata spewing his ridiculous conspiracy theory around and that an episode was going to be centered around it I decided enough was enough and have vowed never to watch the show again. This idiot makes me sick! I wish a building would fall on HIM!~
It's easy once you do the math:
9 + 11 is 20.
The number of hijackers is 19.
20 – 19 is 1.
There you have it. Definitive proof that Air Force 1 was responsible for the attack.
It's easy once you do the math:
9 + 11 is 20.
The number of hijackers is 19.
20 – 19 is 1.
There you have it. Definitive proof that Air Force 1 was responsible for the attack.
These vacuum headed truthers would be pathetic if they weren't so hilarious.
I had an idea for a movie the other day. Call it "The Truth". I should really write it. I would be funny. Star the triune of evil masterminds… Bush, Cheney, and Rove…. and include every wacked out thing the Truthers insist is true. Minions taking pallets of C-4 up the elevators and no one noticing… office worker bees believing the guys wiring the demolitions when they say it's all computer cables… removing all the passengers from the aircraft in mid-flight… drunk minions never spilling the beans about what they do at work… that sort of thing. Get a really cool "Triune of Evil" logo to go on the boxes and shirt patches and stuff. Show Erica Jong lusting after Dick Cheney.
These people deserve to be mocked.
They really do.
Remember the 5 "dancing Israelis" who were arrested after being spotted dancing for joy while watching the WTC collapse? Good thing they knew where to set up their cameras. They were "movers" don't you know? I think it is every Israeli's dream to come to the US and do manual labor. The moving company vanished overnight where they supposedly worked. Clearly a Mossad front operation.
This was all a conspiracy by KFC. The evidence of their genetic eight-legged chicken was kept in the towers. In order to keep the world from getting it, they had Dick Cheney, a major secret stockholder in KFC, blow up the towers and frame those innocent Muslims, for whom so much has been said.
And yes, that is an actual conspiracy theory.
Respectively submitted for your perusal. Sunjata may be a bit daft, or he's onto something; he may just be the pied piper of our times. Instead of G.W. and his band of earth-destroying zombies, the real blame goes to the Canadian Geese. Think about it – they just took down a plane into the Hudson. They must have commandeered the planes into the towers(very smart those tricky Geese) – they're all fired up after listening to Al Gore's global warming missives on NPR. The polar bears put them up to it. So when you see a V-formed flock overhead – be very afraid.
Greg, I think you ought to have Bill do an expose on this theory!
If it was not a plane that hit the Pentagon then why do several photographs taken that day show airplane parts lying on the Pentagon lawn?
Oh I get it. The government must have planted those parts there. Silly government (sarcasm people).
Interesting how that building in China had much more intense fires but did NOT collapse into its own footprint at freefall speeds. Funny, that.
dude needs a blanket party…these people make me sick
Or "The One" which brings us back to MattD's comment earlier that it was a plot to get Obama elected! Hmmmm,
Rexter,
The building in China did not have several floors taken out by an airplane. If several floors of a building are destroyed it would probably be easier for the fire to weaken the structure.
the truth??? the truth??? you CAN"T handle the truth…(jack nicholson voice)
the dirty little secret is that the ENTIRE CAST of Rescue Me (and the show's ratings) was involved in 9/11…
too much of a coinky-dinky that this show surfaced on the heals of the tragic events…
Actually, quite the opposite. Good job shooting yourself in the foot. The LACK of parts is what contributes to the notion it WASN'T a plane. An early reporter on the scene said there were only small parts you could pick up and all of them could fit inside a pickup truck!
Ah-hem, THANKS! WTC 7 wasn't struck by a plane. And it was further reinforced because of the tenants who were housed there!
Rexter,
So I guess all those films of plane crash tests I've seen all those years where the plane just disinigrates into a cloud of nothingness were faked too, to set up the attacks 9-11 years later?
Also, why would they use a missile. In fact attacking the Pentagon would make the attacks less sympathetic to the world.
Anyway, in the spirit of Greg let me ask…what government agency or international shadow government do you work for and what are you trying to hide?
WTC 7 was right next to 2 of the LARGEST buildings in the world. If TWO of the LARGEST buildings in the world were right next to it when it fell down, then isn't it possible that some of the debris from the towers fell down on top of it?
"…No steel-framed skyscraper, even engulfed in flames hour after hour, had ever collapsed before. Suddenly, three stunning collapses occur within a few city blocks on the same day, two allegedly hit by aircraft, the third not." The third was the 47-story WTC building 7. History making day!
Is it me or would anybody else just love to beat the living shit out of this punk, Sunjata?
'I love you barack!"
George W. Bush can't be an idiot and an evil genius.
He can't be the dumbest President ever and then turn around and plan the worst terrorist attack in American History.
Either you are an idiot or an evil genius. You certainly can't be both.
I'll believe the people at Popular Mechanics who say the conspiracies are crap over people who have no idea how a controlled demolition works in the first place.
OK, I'll grant you Scott Norwood could've been some kind of operative, but open your eyes to the real NFL conspiracy… My Lion's William Clay Ford is the ringleader and mastermind. No one could lose so badly and ridiculously for so long on purpose. Sixteen losses in a row is more unlikely than fire melting steel. It just can't happen.
What tests are you talking about? Link the video. Planes don't disintigrate! I think you are thinking of Hollywood movies, perhaps, were a car can be relied upon to blow up if you sneeze on it.
That's because they are allowed to use asbestos in China.
Jet fuel is not "flame." Jet fuel burns at such a high temperature that you can't pour water on it because it will tear apart the water molecules and use them to feed the fire. Steel stands no chance against burning jet fuel.
Also, this is not the first large, steel-frame building to collapse. It's just that when it happens in other parts of the world, it's usually attributed to builder incompetence.
My God, that would be perfect, wouldn't it? — to shoot a docudrama that includes EVERY SINGLE ONE of the claims made in the film "Loose Change". The Truthers would support it because it "tells the real story," and Conservatives would go see it just for the laughs.
And the lack of large parts in the field in Pennsylvania is what fuels the same idea that it wasn't a plane, and didn't have passengers.
There is a video on You-Tube of an F-4 hitting blast-concrete (such as is used in nuclear power plants and the Pentagon) and even though that plane is known as a flying brick… it atomizes. It turns to dust. There are no airplane parts.
There WERE airplane parts at the Pentagon, just not that many that were still identifiable as such, and the only holes in the wall were the size of (surprise!) the engines. The rest pulverized, as did much of the aircraft that hit the ground in Pennsylvania. There are other accounts of aircraft disintegrating on impact when they strike the ground at 90 degrees or nearly so. This isn't mysterious at all.
Anyone who wants it to be mysterious sees mystery. Mystery is more FUN.
People like Rexter and Trent boggle my mind. They will turn any incident into a reason to attack the Jews. I bet if Trent picked up a nail in his tire (assuming he ever leaves his Mom's basement) he'd go into an anti-semitic tirade on the side of the road.
Ahhh, going for the trifecta! I'm impressed. WTC7 was NOT right next to 1 & 2! There are TWO buildings, 5 & 6 (side by side) between 7 and 1/2. http://www.infowars.net/pictures/mar07/200307WTC6...
If conspiracies are crap, how come there are all the laws on the books against "conspiracy"? About half the prison population might need to be released overnight!
It was struck by burning debris. It took a huge hit from falling debris. Additionally, WTC 7 was attached by series of underground pedestrian tunnels which also contributed to the fire.
This is the only time in my life that I will agree with Bill Clinton but he was absolutely right when he said to that 9/11 truther "How Dare You."
Actually, that sounds more like those who blame "anti-semitism" for why Israel is hated.
OMGAWD… I got it on You Tube by google searching "You Tube F4 disintigration"…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–_RGM4Abv8
The whole idea was to find out if nuclear power plants were safe from a plane crashing into them. Further, when it comes to planes the F4 is known for being unusually heavy. Aircraft are made as light as possible, and a commercial aircraft would be far far LESS dense than an F4.
WTC 5 & 6 were not towers. They were 7 – 10 story buildings.
The quickest way to get attention for your cause is to accuse someone of trying to suppress it. By claiming that someone is trying to silence you then you can give your cause an added aura of credibility. "Oh if someone is trying to shut them up than it really must be true."
Oh and before you ask where I learned this I didn't learn it form Limbaugh or O'Reilly I learned it from an extremely Leftist College Professor.
Oh yes, I'm sure there are valid reasons to hate Israel. Just as I'm sure you'll never grow tired of explaining them all to us in excruciating detail.
My personal favorite conspiracy is the faked moon landing. That one at least led to a good movie! Capricorn One, baby!
Seriously, there are two main reasons why conspiracy theories take hold, and there's nothing you can do to shake people out of the delusion.
First, the human brain categorizes everything it sees. We instinctively collect facts and arrange them in ways that we can understand. Unfortunately, this makes us see connections that aren't there. Add in a few incorrect facts and you start getting strange results, like superstition — open your beer wrong, and your team will fumble.
The other issue deals with our sense of self worth. The bigger the event, the less control we have over it, the more insignificant we feel. Some people can't handle this. Believing that you, and you alone, know the truth (or that the government is watching you) makes you feel important. It's like the crazies who attack celebrities so that they can share their fame.
The following letter was sent by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance:
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004...
Trent
Listen, I understand life hasn't turned out the way you wanted it to. When you were a kid you expected to big successful and liked by lots of people by this time. Unfortunately you lack either the social skills or the intelligence (or both) to make anything of yourself. It's probably to late to change that now. So I'm asking you, for the sake of your pathetic, useless existence, to do just one thing. STOP BLAMING THE JEWS FOR YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF. Thank you.
It also had some odd, off-balance, architectural design going on. Taking out the one part of it pulled down the rest. (Or that's what I recall of the Popular Mechanics explanation.)
LOL!!
On the other hand, there were phone calls placed by people on the airplanes in the moments before they struck.
Oil leases? In New York City? Doesn't Heather Thomas know that America will never be allowed to drill for their own oil in NYC? It's too pristine.
Funny.
It'd be like the Spinal Tap for Truthers. Back when it came out there were rocker dudes who thought it was a real documentary.
Seriously.
Don't forget about the conspiracy that a member of the British Royal Family was secretly the serial killer Jack the Ripper. That is one damn good conspiracy.
Dom,
Your post suggested the "pancake" effect where you wrote "the fires caused the closest steel to fail which caused one floor to fall onto the floor below it, (with a force of about 4 times the weight of the falling floor) which caused the next floor below to collapse onto the floor below it, and so on and so on, and so on." One big problem with your "pancake" theory, something called "free-fall collapse":
"There is special import in the fact of free-fall collapse, if only because everyone agrees that the towers fell at free-fall speed. This makes pancake collapse with one floor progressively falling onto the floor below an unattractive explanation. Progressive pancaking cannot happen at free-fall speed ('g' or 9.8 m/s2). Free-fall would require 'pulling' or removing obstacles below before they could impede (slow) the acceleration of falling objects from above. Sequenced explosions, on the other hand, explain why the lower floors did not interfere with the progress of the falling objects above. The pancake theory fails this test."
This is the site where I'm pulling all this stuff from:
http://www.nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&...
Conspiracy is like mast*rb*tion for the mind. (not sure if I can say that without getting moderated)
The human mind is made to have significant pleasure responses to puzzles and to building pictures out of the merest hint of form, to recognizing patterns. It's a compulsion that probably explains why we're even sentient.
So there is intrinsic reward to recognizing patterns, to putting pieces together, to doing all of those things a comspiracy theorist does.
Add to that the not-insignificant benefit of getting to feel smarter than everyone who *can't* see the pattern… and, well, here we are.
(How *else* could Rosie ever feel smart, hm?)
Careful Pope, you're speaking truth to REAL power now. If you love your wife, stop now before Roger G. sends Al Davis to your house to eat your organs.
I would have thought the explanation would be that the plane parts went inside the building which is possible.
Ever use your cell phone on a plane?
Agreed entirely. The Truthers had the motive, are displaying the means through their suddenly professed technical expertise, and most certainly the opportunity.
The principle of "question everything" might be condemned at this point as just a cheap way of attacking positions you don't like, but if one wants to condemn it as such, one has to learn to ask appropriate questions. Since Truthers are highly unlikely to do that, they should be questioned.
On a different note: there are times when more radical views happen to be exactly right. But those more radical views typically concern moral truth, and persuade over time. More radical views about an event tend to confine a person who holds them to one point in time.
I watched the CD of the 911 conspiracy theorists and all I saw where baby coincidences. They talk about how demolition was obvious because of a few spouts of smoke here and there. But when they displayed a real demolition, the air spouts were all uniform and went off across the building, on every floor of the building. Not one here and one there. I only saw 3 or 4 of them and that's not enough to make a building come down. But when they pointed them out, the building was already falling on itself which probably created so much pressure inside the building that air was escaping anywhere it could creating a jet of air in some type of opening. They also said that the inside of the building was falling within itself because the outer shell was separate from the building. So, the inside was falling faster than the outside, which explains everything.
As far as the oil contracts go, the 9 buildings that were damaged & the war cost far more than what any of those oil contracts cost. So I just don't understand how that would have been a reason to fake 9/11. Why would you spend trillions of dollars to make $20 billion in oil contracts?
The only reason left is to blame the 9/11 truthers. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
I thought Elvis killed Kennedy?
Sounds about right, They are all about themselves. You're a better man than I am because I would have been talking about how stupid 9/11 truthers are.
How many witnesses can you locate that say a crew entered WTC in the days before the attack and:
1.) Stripped away the insulating material from the main supporting walls to allow the C-4 direct contact as is necessary for a controlled demoliton. A job that normally takes a well trained crew weeks?
2.) Ran miles of detonation cord on the shortest route possible from charge to charge in order to maximize simultaneity in the detonation?
3.) Since radio transmitters could not be trusted, then ran miles of detonation wire?
4.) Then allowed a fire to break out in the building that contained all the nice detcord and yet still maintaied a perfect detonation?
The power of make believe is strong in these truthers…..
I am sick of the crap that these fools keep spewing out of thier mouths. Sometimes the truth is just the truth.
Thanks Dom, You are one of the few who point out the EXACT cause of the collapse and salute you. I wanted to say what you did in my post above but opted to be a wise ass. Unfortunately your right on SCIENTIFIC observation is wasted as shown by the comments below. Okay to the person below who said burning jet fuel converts molocules BAM you have been Id'd as a twit thanks to freedom of speech. You were thinking of some ignitable metals like magnesuim. Jet fuel burns at generally the same temp as gasoline you twit again. Damn do any of these people remember simple high scool science. Oh that's right instead of science they were taking stage class and hiding in the closet reading Herman Hesse.
No, because they always told me that doing so might cause the plane to crash. I guess that risk wasn't top of mind for Barbara Olson, Todd Beamer and the other actual human beings you deny ever existed.
trent,
calculate the time you've spent researching troofer conspiracies, and realize it's time you've spent not getting laid.
No, because they always told me that doing so might cause the plane to crash. I guess that risk wasn't top of mind for Barbara Olson, Todd Beamer and the other actual human beings who actually spoke to other actual human beings via cell phone from the hijacked planes.
jhb2 – a little history. The "skyscraper" is an American invention when it comes to building types. And the two main developments which led to building beyond 16 stories, were the elevator, and the steel frame. These new buildings first showed up in the late 19th century. Some of the earliest "skyscrapers" were built by the New York Life Insurance Co., the Home Ins. Co. and other insurance companies, because they had a lot of money. The construction of skyscrapers wherever they were planned was completley halted for a few years in the 1890's. Why you ask? Because insurance companies would not insure them. Why again you ask? Because of a fire in one of the early buildings that brought the building down.
And ironically enough it was one of the buildings built by one of the insurance companies. After the catastrophe, steel framed buildings could only get insurance if the steel was "fire-proofed". So architects began encasing the steel frames in hollow core ceramic tiles which are very heat resistant (their decendants are used on the space shuttle to protect the shuttle from the heat of re-entry) which allowed time for evacuation and time for the fire to be put out without damage to the structure.
Through windows, sure. But most plane parts aren't going to break through a wall that's made of reinforced concrete or even the regular sort.
The plane crashes we see with intact sections of cabin and wings and all are that way because of the angle they hit the ground and sort of slid along. At the Pentagon the impact was nearly 90 degrees to a concrete wall. The damage and what remained are consistent with an aircraft doing that.
That it *could* have been something else isn't a persuasive argument. Seriously… I'm a writer. I'm VERY GOOD at imagining the various possible reasons for something to happen and I'm not required to chose the most likely. I can chose the most interesting thing, the one that offers the most story possibilities. Asking all the "questions" as Greg Gutfeld pointed out, is worthless without plausibly answering those questions. I've never seen any follow through from Truthers about where this supposed "missile" came from. They don't see the need to find any answers at all. Where did it come from? Who knew about it? Why haven't they told?
I've often said that, according to the Truther theories, that the Evil Trifecta should have hired me to do their plotting for them. I'd have done a much better job. Much more streamlined. The same effect with far FAR less complexity and far fewer flawlessly evil minions.
That plane didn't disintegrate, it travelled into another dimension… one the government won't tell us about. Ever see Buckaroo Bonzai?!!
Trent
They ask you not to use your cell phone. They still work they just interfere with the electronic equipment on the plane. They don't stop magically working when you get on a plane. Jeez, it's gotta be rough being the sole arbiter of truth isn't it Trent?
I think people that believe in the conspiracy is just secretly wanting to look intellectually superior to us "believers"
and has had thought deeply with their newly acquired intellectual brain in detail. If I were an actual viewer of "Rescue Me" , which I'm not, I would never watch it again.
I mean, seriously… flawless evil minions are hard to find.
Reinforced concrete as a dimensional portal. Oh! I like that one!
Dude, that's just a legal term that means "working with others."
No one says conspiracies can't happen. We're just saying that you're connecting dots that don't connect.
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