Obama-Care Can Kill You
by Gary GrahamI went to the post office today. I know, there was no way to avoid it, I’d rather have a root canal, but I had to mail this very large package. So I’m standing in this long line…watching as the three pleasant but weary postal workers attended, very slowly, to the customers. Each new customer was greeted with a forced-pleasant, “Hi, how are you?” and then attended to the customer’s request. This one had three odd-sized packages. That one wanted to buy some of those new stamps. Another wanted to send a registered letter. The line slowly moved along.
On the up side, it gave me a chance to study all the people in line. An occupational habit, I study people wherever I go, particularly when I’m a captive to some long, slow-moving queue. The line moved so slowly, in fact, that I had the opportunity to memorize what all 32 line-standers were wearing, the color of their hair, the shape of their faces, my best guess at their ethnicity, their height….and as I was starting to indulge myself with guessing each person’s weight and how I would do working at a carnival, my thoughts began to wander. (Did I mention the line in the post office moved very slowly?)
I had satisfied my fill of people-study; had mentally crowned the Strangest Looking, Most Obese, Most Attractive, and The Most Likely To Use The Word ‘Obsequious’ In A Sentence…and my attention began to wander to the workings inside this post office. I live in the San Fernando Valley and this post office is smack dab in the middle of a vast inland-empire suburban metropolis. It serves thousands upon thousands of people…very slowly. There were three postal workers on duty to serve the public that day. I should say two postal workers, as one would periodically rotate out for a ten-to-fifteen minute break. A smoke break, judging from the heavy tobacco smell that accompanied each of their returns to duty.
“Hi, How are you today?” the Postal Worker rasped, as I had finally arrived at the desk.
“Well…I’m a little annoyed to tell you the truth. I’ve been standing in this very boring line, waiting for all of you to finish your respective cigarettes, pushing my large package along the linoleum, watching you and your co-workers slowly attend to the customers like you’ve got all the time in the world. Like this is some sort of purgatory we’re all corporately stuck inside, nobody going anywhere; and you all seem quite indifferent to whether or not this whole sad circus will drag on into a dark and dreary bleak eternity. That’s how I’m doing! How the hell are you?
Nah, I didn’t say any of that. I wanted to get out of there as quickly as humanly possible so I hoisted my large package up onto the counter. The post-person weighed it. I saw $32.96 appear on the scale readout. Cool, I can handle that. Then he measured the package. 20″ by 20″ by 26.”
“Your total is $97.50.” Straight faced, no joke. I stared at him until I re-entered earth’s atmosphere and managed a, “Uh…I’m sorry. Say what?”
It turned out the weight was a thirty-six buck charge, but the large(?) size added an additional sixty-four. The value of the contents, a broken speaker, which if it had been working right, which it was not, was still worth less that the cost of shipping it.
With a sigh I lugged the package out of the post office, trundled down the street to the local UPS station…and ended up sending my package to Tennessee for forty bucks and change.
Why am I dragging you (slowwwly) through this sad and torridly tortured tale of Fun with Postal Workers? Yeah…you guessed correctly: If the President gets his way, the same people who run the post office will soon be running our health care industry.
How’s that for a happy thought?
I even see a possible cost-cutting consolidation: Mail your packages, buy stamps, and have your gall bladder removed – all in one convenient location! And since the number of doctors will decrease dramatically, hence increasing the wait time…you will be able to self-medicate with the new Easy-Does-It Gov-Care Med Dispensers while you’re waiting in line. With the right combination, hours will seem like seconds.
The President addressed a fawning crowd in Wisconsin last month and delineated the ‘catastrophic’ consequences of not spending trillions of tax dollars immediately to fix our ‘broken health care system.’ People can’t afford health care, they’re dropping like flies, and it’s an urgent crisis. We’ve got to completely reorder medical care in America and we have to do it immediately, or we’re all gonna die. It’s a crisis.
Sound vaguely familiar?
But I want to be specific if I take issue with Mr. Obama. So here goes: The President said, “Rising premiums are straining family budgets to the breaking point.”
Oh, I see. But…is that all families? Half the families? One tenth? Fifteen-sixteenths, what? Can you be specific, Mr. President? And what exactly is the ‘breaking point’? And could massively reducing taxes help at all? Just a thought.
Obama went on, “In the past nine years, health care premiums have gone up three times faster than wages have gone up.”
Could that have anything to do with an increasingly litigious mindset and left-leaning encouragement of frivolous lawsuits in which hospitals, doctors and health care institutions are sued at the least provocation?
How about the resultant ‘ get-something-for-nothing’ attitude fostered by the Left’s welfare society of entitlement? And what about the increasingly intrusive role of government meddling in the industry of health care and health care providers, which by all reports of those directly involved, indicates that the presence of government in the health care industry at all drives premiums higher. I’m just saying.
The Prez continued, “…desperately needed tests and procedures are put off, because the price is too high.”
But at least we can get those tests and procedures, Mr. President, without having to wait two years, as is so often the case in Canada, or Great Britain, or New Zealand or any place socialized medicine holds its people in rationed third-world misery.
My father was a surgeon and sat on the board of the CMA, the California Medical Assoc., and was one of the board examiners who went around and inspected hospitals. The expertise acquired enabled him to later build three hospitals himself, and manage nine more. And I had been telling everyone I was going to be a doctor as well, since I was six years old. But you know? My father told me about the evils of socialized medicine and how it was creeping into our system. My father ultimately influenced me to not go into the medical practice. The reason: Government had become far too intrusive in the health care industry. And this was 35 years ago.
It’s only gotten worse since. More and more would-be doctors are seeking other professions as the word gets around. It used to be – you work hard, do well in a four-year college, go to med school, work your butt off for four years, then another two at internship and residency, and then, you open up a private practice. But there’s no such thing anymore. Because it’s not private – the government is your partner. And more and more, the government is becoming your boss.
With fewer and fewer doctors there will be much longer waits to a) get in to see a doctor, and then b) receive any treatment. In Britain and Canada where they have ‘free’ national health care, waiting times of two years are not uncommon to receive life-saving surgery. And a lot can happen in that time. Like…you can die.
The President tells us our health care system is ‘broken’ because health care has gotten more expensive. Really? That makes it ‘broken,’ because it’s expensive?
Health care costs in the country have risen in the past few years. Absolutely right. New innovation and high-tech breakthroughs cost a lot of money. New life-saving drugs are expensive, because years of research and development are necessary to bring them to market. The best costs money. Don’t you pay more for a finer cut of beef at the grocery store? Don’t you pay more for a nicer car, one that has more amenities? We don’t have the cheapest health care on the planet, it’s true – but we do have the best health care system. So when President Obama every other day proclaims solemnly that ‘our health care system is broken’…what the hell is he talking about?
He’s talking about controlling more and more of your daily lives.
Our health care system isn’t broken; it’s the best in the world. I’d say our government is broken, starting with President Obama!
When foreign dignitaries get very sick or need life-saving surgeries, do they book it in Canada? Or England? Hell no – they come to the U.S. The medical technology, physician expertise, and quality of medicine is the highest here than on any place on earth. And it costs money to develop the medicines, the technology and train the doctors. Why do people think that good things shouldn’t cost money?
And these AARP adds. And ‘The Scooter Store.’ Granny doing donuts on her living room carpet and happily proclaiming she didn’t pay anything out-of-pocket for the scooter. That’s because YOU all paid for it. And I don’t mean to be harsh here, but …does Granny really need to motor around her house? Wouldn’t her doctor agree that her health would benefit if she merely got up off her sedentary butt and walked to the kitchen. Walked to the bathroom? Walked around and exercised a bit, pumping life-giving blood through her extremities? Of course it would. Granny – God bless ya, but — Stop thinking that other people should have to pay for your stuff!
And another thing — You hear many in the news today saying, “The main problem with National Health Care is ‘How are we going to pay for it?’” Really? That’s like saying, “Listen we of course want to tie you up, shove a dyslexic hamster up your bum, place you upside-down in a glass tube of acid filled with scorpions and jellyfish…but the main problem is ‘How do we pay for it?’”
Uh….Forget how we pay for it – it’s a stupid idea!!!!!
Okay, Gary, you obviously have no compassion. What about the poor? What about the poor who can’t afford health insurance? I would ask you for a definition of what ‘they’ can afford. Can they afford that HD wide-screen? Twenty-four-hour Direct-TV All Sports channel? How about that brand new Hummer? I know a lot of people who say they can’t afford health insurance, but manage to take three vacations a year on their boat and have more toys that I’ve ever had.
Choices. People make choices in life. They choose to spend their money on health insurance. Or…they upgrade their wide screen. Get their house painted. Buy a new dining room set. Or…they save up to pay for their health care insurance.
Yesterday, at yet another Town Hall Meeting, (or as I like to call it, Doctor Obama’s Magic Traveling Medicine Show), a rather rotund woman, Debbie, came up to the President and tearfully pleaded that she was diagnosed with a tumor and didn’t know what to do. In a brilliantly staged move, the Snake-Oil-Salesman-in-Chief warmly embraced her bulk, saying that she was “Exhibit A” [of why our health care system is broken]. And I couldn’t help but remember that old TV show from the late ‘50’s…”QUEEN FOR A DAY” in which each week three women would come on and tell their sad tale of woe and disaster and deprivation to the studio and television audience. The studio audience would then vote for whom they thought was the most deserving Queen-For-the-Day. It was heart-rending. One tragedy bested by yet another disaster, and finally trumped by an apocalypse of misfortune. Tears, sad organ music, and warm, supportive love and grieving.
And finally it was announced, and the winner was crowned “QUEEN FOR A DAY”! The pipe organ would swell as tears and applause and a robe and crown and the new Queen of Pathos was regaled with new washer-dryers, sewing machines, vacuum cleaners, reclining chairs…and it was all so maudlin and sappy. But the show was a big hit. People tuned in to hear the sob stories and get their heartstrings tugged. And afterward…they felt a little better about themselves.
This is the essence of Liberalism. It’s all about feeling a little better about yourself by doing ‘something nice’ and giving something to someone else. And I say GOOD! As long as no one is forcing me to give to someone else. I’m all too happy to be nice to someone else, to give to a stranger, let’s say…voluntarily. (And by the way, Americans, and in fact Conservatives, are the biggest givers on the planet.)
But you write it into law, and back it up with a gun…now we got a problem. Liberals are very generous – with other people’s money.
So when a zillion ‘Debbies’ come to me and ask me to pay for their health care, to treat their tumors, I say…HUNH? Why should I have to pay for your health care? And likewise, why should you have to pay for mine? You don’t pay for my groceries, I don’t pay for yours…and isn’t food more vital that health care? Here’s a novel idea: Why don’t I pay for my health care and you pay for yours?. Just a thought.
But how about this for people like Debbie: HEALTH CARE TELETHONS! Televised much like the Jerry Lewis MS Telethons, each stricken victim parades forth and tells their story – straight into the camera. And the phones will light up with pledge money. We can have menthol drops standing by for those not quite motivated to shed real Oprah-worthy tears. And yours truly will keep whatever we raise above and beyond what your surgery or treatment ends up costing. And I’ll put that money in a lock-box. To be disseminated at a time and to a recipient of my choosing.
Now doesn’t that make more sense than what the Prez is proposing? That because supposedly 30 million in this country (largely illegal or simply opting out) don’t have health insurance, our health care system — the best, most advanced medical system ever known to mankind — is ‘broken’ and needs to be turned over to the federal government to run?
What the President is proposing is insanity. Return the medical industry to the private sector. That is the only way to reduce costs and keep the quality of service at its optimum.





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Wow, look at all those smiling faces in that picture…they must've all just been told to opt for the painkillers instead of getting cured of whatever illnesses they have.
That's hope and change we can believe in!
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Nicely done Gary. I just heard Obama is bullying the hospitals into buying on in the great "endorsement game." I keep saying, of all the horrible things this president can do to the country, nationalized health care will be the hardest to get rid of. I worry because with the poof from Minnesota now in the senate, it just makes it that much easier to get this lunacy passed.
And if the Post Office doesn't do it for you, let's not forget the other fun zone, The Department of Motor Vehicles.
Get in line…
Next!
I forgot to mention that anybody who doesn't believe the president's proposal is not intended to be merely an interim step towards nationalized health care is deluding himself. The government has never, ever,done anything remotely to control costs in anything it ever does, why would we believe them now?
Yep. My dad was a British doctor. I was Born in the USA. Guess why? Hint: Sometimes the good people at the NHS don't wait for you to die…they give you a little help.
I'll quote my dad. "In a fee-for-service system, a dead patient is a revenue loss. In a socialized system, a dead patient is a cost-savings."
Ugh, don't remind me. I just moved and I've got to go down there to update the address on my driver's license.
What I don't get is why people aren't looking at what a mess the VA is and asking themselves if they really want to turn their health care over to the same people. But people delude themselves. They think that somehow because they're involved this time will be different. It never is but they keep telling themselves that anyway.
The Won demands that 'necessary' tests be performed, when just a short time ago he was 'outraged' over the number of 'excessive' tests performed. That's just Obama's way of playing both sides of the fence. Maybe there are so many 'unnecessary' tests performed is because the tort system is so broken that if a doctor didn't perform that 'unnecessary' test, the patient's lawyer could use that to claim the doctor was 'negligent' or worse, 'incompetent'. The government also demands more and more procedures, medications, 'alternative' medicines and paperwork from the medical profession. The State of Illinois for years, mandated that insurance companies cover laetrile
The motto of the health care 'reformers' seems to be "If it's not broken, break it."
The Won demands that 'necessary' tests be performed, when just a short time ago he was 'outraged' over the number of 'excessive' tests performed. That's just Obama's way of playing both sides of the fence. Maybe there are so many 'unnecessary' tests performed is because the tort system is so broken that if a doctor didn't perform that 'unnecessary' test, the patient's lawyer could use that to claim the doctor was 'negligent' or worse, 'incompetent'. ____The government also demands more and more procedures, medications, 'alternative' medicines and paperwork from the medical profession. The State of Illinois for years, mandated that insurance companies cover laetrile
The government also demands more and more procedures, medications, 'alternative' medicines and paperwork from the medical profession. The State of Illinois for years, mandated that insurance companies cover laetrile; the so-called 'cure' for cancer. Of course, it was just as effective as the 'hamster treatment' , but it made some politicians feel good that they could count on a few more votes from desperate cancer patients.
I wouldn't worry about the physician shortage. The Won probably has already a plan to lower requirements (we used to call them standards) for anyone wanting to get into medicine. A few exemptions here, a few waivers there, and someone who just yesterday was registering 'voters' for ACORN is now practicing medicine in our local hospital.
Another exceptional column from Mr. Graham! Health care started to get very expensive on the very DAYS that the federal government invented Medicare and Medicaid.
Sorry…I had problems getting things posted correctly
You've got it Bull! Government should never be permitted to be exempt from the legislation they foist on the rest of us. BTW I am amazed you got your wonderful and perfectly accurate descriptive of the president past the automated censor screen. I sometimes seem to get zapped for what I assumed was far more innocuous stuff.
Don't forget that the government regards obesity as a disability.
When Obama-Care arrives every lard-ass will get his own "free" hover-round, not just the basic model, but the one with cupholders and optional ass-wiping attachment.
I always enjoy waiting in the Post Office line, by having to endure a cranky old codger bitch about the cost of mailing a post card, then go into a rant about the drones at the USPS, and the Yugo swallowing pothole at the entry. That took another five minutes and all we poor patrons did was roll our collective eyes and frown. One day, I should hope someone will toss him into the pothole. Add the TSA and their concern and welfare for the weary sojourner, and you've got a Polaroid of the forthcoming healthcare mess. Simply awful, and yet people still want it?
Best of luck at the DMV.
The people voted for Change and now they're about to get it. Unfortunately those of us who saw the writing on the wall are going to get it too. I believe at this stage the only hope is for doctors themselves to rise up and address the issue, loud and clear, before it's too late.
You Hit the nail on the head. Very few are aware of this, but one of the things tacked onto the TARP bailout was a provision that required all corporations that provied insurance to their employees to pick up 20 odd new procedures this year: mental health coverages for children who are gay, etc.
So in the middle of the greatest banking crisis in history, while insurance premiums are rising 30% a year, in the middle of a recession, the democrats tacked the cost of a couple dozen new coverages onto your insurance costs.
Ditto. This: The minimum wage is going up this month. In the middle of a depression.
The mushy middle better get their collective heads out of their a-holes. The democrats do not believe in the fundamentals of economics, which are much more soundly defined than Global Warming theory.
Not to mention that he appears to be in favor of withholding treatments that are too 'expensive' or 'ineffective'. I guess that another 'Skippy the Car Czar' will be plucked from Soro's mail room to determine that your wife really doesn't need that mammogram or your dad doesn't need hip replacement surgery.
you hammered so many great points here that i now present you with the GOLDEN HAMMER (echo echo echo). use it in good health, my friend. can i get you another nail?!
Sorry, I spoke too soon. The Won's Health Care Czar was announced yesterday and just happens to have ties with health-related companies which have been involved with very shady practices. It doesn't take much to become an Obama 'czar'.
Isnt it funny that the cost of Education rises three times the rate of inflation.
The cost of Health Care raises three times the rate of inflation.
The two most regulated federally controlled areas of our society.
Meanwhile, the single most important function of a Federal Government: securing our borders, has seen 14 million people to sneak into our country without permission.
Unless there is a movement to add some amendments to our constitution to put an end to this elitist hegemony in Washington, it's time to end this union.
Isnt it funny that the cost of Education rises three times the rate of inflation.
The cost of Health Care raises three times the rate of inflation.
The two most regulated federally controlled areas of our society.
Meanwhile, the single most important function of a Federal Government: securing our borders, has seen 14 million people tneak into our country without permission.
Unless there is a movement to add some amendments to our constitution to put an end to this elitist hegemony in Washington, it's time to end this union.
All right, I just got my new tricked-out Hummer, my 40 inch HD TV, an apartment which is way out of my budget range, and nine pairs of new Nikes!
Oh, shoot, I forgot about healthcare! Don't worry, all you insured people can help fun my irresponsibility and my lack of priorities!
Thanks, socialized medicine!
All right, I just got my new tricked-out Hummer, my 40 inch HD TV, an apartment which is way out of my budget range, and nine pairs of new Nikes!
Oh, shoot, I forgot about healthcare! Don't worry, all you insured people can help reward my irresponsibility and my lack of priorities!
Thanks, socialized medicine!
Don't forget your new IPhone which you use to call Air America to vent about how you can't afford the mortgage on your three rental properties.
A link to a recent article on the subject from Tom Sowell:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell06300...
How very true Megan! What's more, people who are doctors and nurses usually enjoy what they do- they have a genuine concern for patients in most cases. But Govt. workers often seem like they are some of the most bored, sullen, soulless people on earth. I know that's not true of all of them, but it is with many that I've seen- especially in Congress. We will rue the day we turn over healthcare to a bunch of uninspired governement drones.
I know, same thing with my Hopeandchange mobile the government gave me. It runs on false promises and empty rhetoric, just like Obama.
Nice article Gary. For those who are on the fence, sorta thinking we should give it a try, you should first do a little homework and research some of the goings on overseas. Check out the euthanasia practices is say, the Netherlands, and the the UK's punitive ideas on treatments for those who don't quite fit neatly on the actuarial tables.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576704/Do...
Megan -"In a fee-for-service system, a dead patient is a revenue loss. In a socialized system, a dead patient is a cost-savings." That's both accurate and chilling.
Stop knocking the US Postal Service. I use their services frequently, and they do just fine. Surest sign of a lazy jokester is to pick on the post office. You ought to joke about the lines at Starbucks, since they are longer and slower.
I am not sure about the 21st century, but between 1990 and 2000 the CPI went up 109% and the cost of a college education went up 355%. I am certain the cost of higher ed has continued to soar. With out a good education, how can the future taxpayers make enough money to pay the 50 – 60 or 80% tax rate? WE MUST cap the cost of teachers and administration. The same for Movies!!! $10 or more for a ticket??!!!?? and DON'T get me started on the out of control greed of BIG POPCORN!!!
Cap actors at no more than a million per year (one movie or 10!!) Stop the greed of the producers and directors and writers!!!…
AND how about the music industry??? Michael Jackson got in trouble because they were paying him so much money!!! He'd still be alive today if he wasn't paid all that money and became addicted to carnival rides, wild and out of place animals and clothing so expensive he could only afford a single glove!!!
It's all Obamas fault!!! He didn't stop the greed of the music industry and Michael DIED!!! STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
Great read Gary! Examining leftist thinking is an oxymoron, liberals don’t think they feel. Everything’s got to be fair, equal, all results must be the same regardless of effort, this includes healthcare. It doesn’t matter the damage liberals do we must only look only at their good intentions, if it means ruining the greatest healthcare system in the world, sacrifices have to be made, why?. Envy is a great liberal trait, they don’t worry about what’s in their pocket, but what’s in your pocket, and how they can separate you from your hard earned coin. Arithmetic is a nuisance for liberals in search of a greater society, they still believe there is such a thing as a money tree? Give the health department a wag next time you get sick, it’ll be instructive. Raise cain people, America needs you!
Excellent post Mr.Graham. Your use of the post office as an example of government inefficiency is perfect. Interesting how the privately owned UPS store you went to ended up being cheaper (and I'll bet quicker too) than the government option. Government never has to worry about customer satisfaction, never has to worry about efficiency. If the books aren't balancing at the end of the month government just requests more funding. Obama says that if the private heath care plans work better then great! But how can a private company that has to turn a profit compete against a government entity that can simply get more funding just by asking for it? Government control over your very life. How insane is that?
I work in a children's hospital. We often get children in our operating room who need general anesthesia for dental work for a multitude of reasons (behavioral issues – ie the pt is retarded, autistic,etc or just has poor hygiene and has too much work to do). Many of these patients receive some form of government health insurance. Recently the dentist I was working with commented with disgust that the parent of the patient we were working on (who had gov't "insurance") had pulled into the parking ramp just before him – in a Mercedes SUV. It made me sick.
didn't "going postal" make it in to the lexicon?
I'm quite sure Gary would have pegged me as a "lexicon" user!!! I'm UPS al. the.way. (but I give my mail man a tip at Christmas….oh, my…hate crushed mail, ya know…)
didn't "going postal" make it in to the lexicon?
I'm quite sure Gary would have pegged me as a "lexicon" user!!! I'm UPS– all. the.way. –(but I give my mail man a tip at Christmas….oh, my…hate crushed mail, ya know…)
Megan,
I'm sure I should have asked permission first rather than forgiveness after, but I posted my thoughts about National Health Care on my Facebook, and I included your comment above in at attempt to get the left-wingers there to be more open-minded to reading the whole post. I did indicate I was quoting from someone who posted a comment to an article I had just read, although I forgot to give you credit. I'll fix that. Hope you're not angry……
I simply do not understand how some people believe that the health care industry will get "better" once government has control of it. I mean NOTHING has ever gotten better once government has taken it over, NOTHING. Look at the NTSB, when you're walking through security at the airports those people NEVER smile, it's like they're trained NOT to be friendly.
We had a situation a few weeks ago where my husband had to go to the drs, he went to the EMERGENCY room of all places and after waiting FOUR hours for them to do something they STILL hadn't gotten to him and it wasn't even all that crowded. Needless to say he had already paid his 100.00 co-pay but he left anyway without them ever doing anything except to take his BP. And they believe it'll get BETTER? Laughable, highly laughable.
I'm a physician in Buffalo, NY. Many times in my career I have treated Canadians who have been sent here for medical treatment by the Canadian government or chose to pay out of pocket for medical care here. Those who come voluntarily come for more rapid treament (MRI scans to see if their brain tumor is cancerous; surgeries that they would wait months for). Others come because there are no beds in the area to treat a 2 lb baby (see here . In my area we routinely see 14 babies a year due to shortages in the province of Ontario. Buffalo is a city that has been in economic disrepair and population decline for decades, yet we can provide more opportunities than the entire province of Ontario Canada (which includes Toronto one of the largest cities in Canada).
I will fight Obamacare tooth and nail.
Pulleez…they should pay postal workers BY THE TRANSACTION! Production=Efficency…Postal Workers=Innefficency. I sent two post cards from the VATICAN, and the POST WORKER had the EXACT same BAD ATTITUDE….in the Vatican…amazing
Amen Megan, and unlike with the post office you can't opt out of line to go to UPS
It's one thing to hammer an inept, pandering, even machiavellian president, but don't forget two other important groups…the Congress, and at the most basic level, the Americans who voted for these people.
Would I be judged harshly if I start to refer to national health-care advocates as 'sociopaths'? After all, one definition of a sociopath is "a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."
Obamacare can and will kill us, but first, going hand in hand with cap and trade, it will kill our economy.
Debbie with the tumor? She worked on his campaign during the election.
I'm planning on becoming a doctor, and not to make tons of money or anything like that, but seriously, there's got to be some sort of payoff for all those years of school and all that debt, but doctors (general practitioners in particular) already can't make money off of people on government plans like Medicare/Medicaid. (That was a major run-on sentence right there). I can just imagine what will happen if there's only a government plan. Guess I'll just stick to my plan of doing mission work someplace where people genuinely can't afford health care (assuming I can get my debts paid off before I retire/die.) I picked a more expensive college because it really has a superior pre-med program. Likewise, health care here is more expensive because it really is superior. There's no such thing as a free lunch!
Back in high school, I worked at a grocery store and routinely carried groceries out to customers vehicles. There would be people using food stamps and WIC checks driving brand new or year old SUVs and cars. And that was in fairly conservative small town Iowa. But I guess there are cheats everywhere.
A couple summers later, while driving to my internship, I would sometimes take a shortcut through a little blink-and-you'll-miss-it town, past a house I swore had been condemned and abandoned many years ago due to the neglect of it's exterior and broken windows. Then one day I noticed the satellite dish mounted to the side of it, and eventually saw people going into and out of the house. Unfortunately, some people have different priorities and make poor choices. I just wish the government didn't see fit that the rest of us pay for it.
Awesome post Gary! The thing is, why not have TORT reform. Of course the John Edwards wannabes would be out of jobs which would be just too bad for the ambulance chasers. But part of the problem is malpractice insurance. The docs have to spend an awful lot of money for that insurance so they are protected from a lot of BS people can think up of. The free market keeps prices down because of competition. And the one thing people haven't thought of, the Church. Mayo Clinic was founded by the Catholic Church, it is probably (in my opinion because I have had experience with them) the best hospital in the world. I had no insurance and the Church paid my bill. Why? Because they get donations from very very very wealthy people who have had care at the hospitals there want to offer support for the place that healed them. The Churchs offer a support to society that it lacks now because of the left and the disregard for the solid foundation Christianity has given society. What the Church offers still though is help for those in need. To me asking them for help when you need it is OK. Thats what the Church is there for, saving souls, saving lives. Asking for a handout from Uncle Obama is making yourself a slave.
Very good observation. No harsh judgement here.
Obama should be charged with conspiracy to commit manslaughter the SECOND any American citizen DIES waiting because of Obamacare….this irresponcible, psuedo academic, ivory tower fraud (where are his college transcripts anyway?) and his socialist-millionaire cronies in the criminal organization a.k.a. the DEMOCRAT party need to be held criminal culpable for their crimes against the people of this country.
Kit, usually 8 hours down here at UNC hospital. ;-/
I go to the V.A. Hospital. It took me three months to see my Primary Care, Nurse Practitioner, three months more get a MR,I on my shoulder. I received a letter yesterday informing me I would have a Orthopedic consult…..ready?…….March 2010.
My wife and her best friend are Buffalonians (Kenmore to be exact) and my wife's opinion of that city is pretty mixed. She hated how much of a welfare state NY has become but her best friend loved it. We argue occasionally about welfare and socialized medicine, and her response to me is that I don't like any of those programs because "I've never gotten anything from the system". I swear I feel like screaming when she starts with that. This is a chick that got herself laid off so that she could live on unemployment for awhile because she didn't like her job. Take a wild guess who she voted for.
Sorry…I saw you mentioned Buffalo and I had to rant for a moment.
Nah, "sociopath" has been tossed around when describing politicians a lot lately and it seems pretty accurate.
Pure comedy hearing you Yanks spew outright lies about health care in Canada. This one couldn't be further from the truth
"In Britain and Canada where they have ‘free’ national health care, waiting times of two years are not uncommon to receive life-saving surgery. And a lot can happen in that time. Like…you can die."
You guys would make excellent material for a comedy program. This Canadian thanks you for the daily laughs you provide. rflmao
I remember Madonna telling Gwynneth Paltrow that while England is so much better than America in nearly every way, she should still have her baby in the U.S. instead of a British hospital. I think she called them "victorian".
Go to freeourhealthcarenow.com sign the petition and pass it on.
Dan, I had to travel out of state to have my hips replaced because my private insurance would not cover it as it was a preexisting condition. Don't worry though, at your rate it will take a year as opposed to the 4 years it took me through the VA. Just think, this is another fine example of the government run health care that Duh One wants to force down our throat.
I think Obama truly is a sociopath. He seems cold as ice.
God bless you Doc! We need the Dr.'s to lead the way on this one, go on strike? Use leftist tactics against the left?
Check to see if your state has that service online. In Arizona, I can do almost all my DMV stuff online in a couple of minutes. It's wonderful.
What I don't understand is why does everybody have to be on the new health care plan? Isn't the problem people without health insurance? Why can't people who don't have health insurance buy into a "pool" of government health care? If the government program turns out to be great, then maybe in the future employers can opt out of paying health insurance or give employees a choice of more $ no insurance coverage. What is the point of forcing everyone on the same plan?
Actually, I don't think its so messed up here in U.S. I would say that people like my husband and I overpay into a system which covers the uninsured/impoverished so everyone here is getting good care. We DO resent Mexicans and Canadians who might illegally cross the border to obtain our fine care.
Shoo, now, silly.
I feel like I'm becoming an ad for these guys, but AndrewPrice and Lawhawk are doing a great series of articles about health care over at the blog — http://commentarama.blogspot.com/
It's been very well done, with some pretty surprising information. I highly recommend it. Click on their Health Care Reform "index."
While I'm at is, they did a great article on Honduras too.
The other thing about how the Netherlands keep their costs down is that they don't give older people the same level of care we do. It is really chilling.
Thanks for the link.
Oh. My. God. Gary, are you following me around? Okay, wait. I'm not in Southern California, so that's not possible.
I was at the post office yesterday with my seventeen-year-old nephew (who will be voting age soon) and that prompted me to have this very conversation with him. As we stood in our looooong line I said to him this is nothing compared to lines we'll have to stand in if we go to government controlled health care. Imagine. Health care run by the DMV! I said. Can you imagine anything worse than that?
I can't.
The VA is a disaster. I can't believe they treat veterans the way they do.
Here's another good link on this topic. John Stossel makes the point that the biggest reason health care costs have gone up is that insurance has replaced the individual in terms of making decisions about what care to get and what to pay — http://blogs.abcnews.com/johnstossel/2009/07/why-...
Day Um! That's a long freakin' time! Expect it to improve under obama though. NOT..
I think you're right. I would not trade our system for any other in the world. There are things that need to be fixed, but not at the expense of becoming like the rest of the world.
OMG! You must be a real Canadian because you called us Yanks! Now I will take everything you say seriously. LOL!
I love John Stossel. He's a great American! Thomas Sowell too. Thanks for the links guys.
Keep up the good work. How about A Million Doctor March on Washington?
Big Popcorn must be stopped! No more wars for salty treats!
I saw a news story not too long ago about Canadian women having to come to the U.S. for high risk pregnancy care–it just wasn't available in Canada. But yeah, Canada's system is great! Just ask all the Canadians who come here to see American doctors.
No, it's the excuse they are using in order to seize control over the healthcare system. They want to present an 'inexpensive' public plan so everyone will opt for it, thus killing most of the private insurers' business.
They keep saying that there are people without healthcare, which is a lie. Our hospitals do not turn people away. You keep hearing stories about procedures are being denied people, but that is far more complicated an issue than what the politicians present. If you want disputes about procedures and coverage resolved, you look to fixing that part, not tear down the entire system because there are legitimate issues regarding procedures covered and what the healthcare provider wants to perform.
There is an issue with payment, but Medicare and Medicaid, two government-run programs, are two of the biggest culprits regarding slow or no payment, which makes healthcare providers uneasy. Why not review how many hospitals provide services then get stiffed by illegals who use them as primary care physicians.
How about fixing the tort system which has forced providers to order redundant tests and unnecessary procedures? Talk about an explosion in costs.
We've got some Canadian kids at my school who say that their parents have actually been told to go to the US for serious problems.
sqt.-class act.
TaxPayingChump–You are right. And they did some pretty good stuff on the ethnic S.C nominee. Also some good movie reviews on films we probably should have seen but didn't.
You actually got a 'Hi, how are you?' from a postal worker? They are unusually friendly in your town!
As much as we may complain about our Postal Service, apparently the Europeans are generally impressed with how efficient our system is compared to theirs.
Yep. We're all going to be equally poor and equally sick, except for the politicians of course.
But at least the illegals will have access to our wonderful health care system. We are all about equality of opportunity.
[...] Read it. [...]
Here is a list of infant mortality rates per 1,000 live births for 2004:
# 1 is the best and then it drops from there.
1. Singapore 2.0
2. Hong Kong 2.5
3. Japan 2.8
4. Sweden 3.1
5. Norway 3.2
6. Finland 3.3
7. Spain 3.5
8. Czech Republic 3.7
9. France 3.9
10. Portugal 4.0
11. Germany 4.1
11. Greece 4.1
11. Italy 4.1
11. Netherlands 4.1
15. Switzerland 4.2
16. Belgium 4.3
17. Denmark 4.4
18. Austria 4.5
18. Israel 4.5
20. Australia 4.7
21. Ireland 4.9
21. Scotland 4.9
23. England and Wales 5.0
24. Canada 5.3
25. Northern Ireland 5.5
26. New Zealand 5.7
27. Cuba 5.8
28. Hungary 6.6
29. Poland 6.9
29. Slovakia 6.9
29. United States 6.9
http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20081015...
On a lighter note, can't help myself, given the story, I propose this, my new favorite video as a theme song:
Enjoy. The Mae Shi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUKAcKKQns4
http://www.moshimoshimusic.com/artists/the-mae-sh...
Did your 17-year-old nephew get it or is he drinking the koolaid like so many other teens out there?
I went to the doctor's office today – You know…My private doctor paid in part by my private insurance – and had nearly the same experience you had with the post office . I checked in with the unsmiling assistant up front, then waited in a room of unsmiling patients in the waiting room for quite awhile before the nurse called me into the back, then waited in a private room for another ten to fifteen minutes for the doctor to come in.
On the other hand, I went to the Post Office the other day and waited for about one minute to be helped by a friendly postal worker. Plus I was able to get a letter from Omaha, NE to Orlando, FL for 43 cents, which I know I couldn't have done on my own.
The same people who complain about the care given to our service personnel in VA hospitals are anxious to turn the rest of our medical care over to the federal government which, by the way, runs the VA hospitals.
He's not an Obamabot, but he's still in kid-mode. He doesn't really have a political identity yet– but he's trying. He's thinking about going into the Air Force (after college too!) because he wants to be pilot, so he definitely has a pro-military attitude. I think he gets it. He's going to go live with my brother–his uncle– and my brother is very conservative–so he'll be in good hands.
You do realize that many of those countries count their infant mortality statisitics differently than we do? Some of them don't count the baby until it has lived for a year for example where the US counts it if it exits the womb breathing. Obviously that will make a big difference the infant mortality statistics of two countries.
Right on! We should take health care away from all the poor kids and let them be miserable because a few idiots are irresponsible.
My mom working admitting at our local hospital for years and would often complain about just that. All the people on government insurance who wore name brand clothing and shoes. She and my father worked and scrimped and saved bringing up my sister and I. Money was always tight, but we always had health insurance. We never had name brand clothing though.
My mom worked admitting at our local hospital for years and would often complain about just that. All the people on government insurance who wore name brand clothing and shoes. She and my father worked and scrimped and saved bringing up my sister and I. Money was always tight, but we always had health insurance. We never had name brand clothing though.
I'm not knocking the postal service, but they don't staff the offices with enough people. I'm always in a long line when I mail a package. I go to the grocery store (they have post service there) to mail in the U.S. because they're super speedy. I think government run businesses are as efficient as the paperwork; the post office– very little paperwork = reasonable wait; DMV– more paperwork = longer wait; IRS…just plain excruciating, must hire someone to do it for me. What new forms of torture will they devise in the way paperwork when it comes to healthcare?
Arthritis care that we consider routine in this country as a simple standard of living is generally denied across much of Europe because it's generally thought to be a waste of funds by many government health services. The elderly are simply going to die soon after all.
Seriously, universities are funded with government/public money and most students pay tuition with government/public money, so there's the answer to your skyrocketing prices right there.
But the other issue is that additional treatment in a fee-for-service system is a revenue generator, so people end up getting many more tests, procedures, etc. that are unnecessary. Plus a fee-for-service system could not care less about prevention (a revenue loss), while socialized systems prefer prevention because of the cost savings. Neither system is perfect but you have to look at the whole picture.
and wouldn't a hug from the Messiah have cured her anyway?
Gary! Very quick point. Suing doctors and hospitals is hardly a 'left-leaning occupation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196997/H...
Or you could be cleaning your own hospital room if you're lucky enough to be able to get out of your hospital bed.
Amen and amen, Gary! And we're hearing all this from a president who thinks abortion is health care.
I had a conversation with a friend about a month ago. I was saying I'll never be able to retire because of my pathetic retirement savings that were being decimated by the economy. She can't retire because she needs to keep her health insurance for her ill husband. She's a huge believer in Universal Health Care. I asked her if she was sure she wanted what Canada has – oh yeah, hubby would be covered, but would he have access? Does she REALLY believe that the government can manage health care so we all have access to what we're used to, and those who don't have it will be able to use it? Oh yes. she has HOPE.
God save us.
And any inexpensive public plan that's offered will be paid for by all of us by default. They won't go around and ask us if we want our tax dollars chipped into the inexpensive government health care pool anymore than we get asked if we want our tax dollars chipped into any other social entitlement program now. It sure would be nice to think it would happen that way because then I could argue that my education tax dollars ought to stay with me to put my kids into a private school or help me homeschool them rather than pay for public schools I'll never use … but it'll never happen.
I have a really good friend in the Netherlands. We have been pen pals for many, many years. Her dear father became very ill and refused to go to the hospital. When he finally did go, the cancer had spread to a point that there was nothing that could be done for him. She noted that lots of older people (even ones with loving spouses and children) refuse to go to the hospital for fear of being coerced into "assisted suicide". They sent him home with her and gave her a bottle of pills. She was much relieved that she "didn't have to use them." I fear that with Obamacare older people are going to be seen as a cost/liability and are going to be afraid to seek treatment as well.
So if you are over 60 you become a social security debt and if also ill…well just go wander into a field and die please.
Lots of Dads say stupid things. In a socialized system, patients are treated equally, period. Private health system make for a lot of unwarranted exams, that's a way to make money. Nationalized (tough mixed with private sector) French nationalized system works beautifully. Bad thing though revenues are a percentage of gross salary, when unemployment goes high (you know, the banks, that great private sector), revenues for the health system go down. Just make sure, everyone pays for it, including a tax on financial revenues.
Let me put one caveat here, Most of the people at the VA treat us well. It is the rationing that is the problem.
relax, I did say that I was referencing Madonna.
Yoe mean freehealthcare.com don't you"
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one, Tolbert!
I love how it s always a "I know someone who knows someone" or " I read and article once!" as I said, pure comedy.
Thanks for the laughs guys; You're better then baghdad bob.
The only ones who want Socialized health care are the President, Senators, and Congress and the rest of the people who already get it free.
It's pay-off time for the Unions and the people who supported Obama and the DemocRats and insurance for their votes in the future. It's not for the rest of the poor working slobs in America.
Obama lied – and freedom died!
I want my country back!
The only ones who want Socialized Health Care are the President, Senators, and Congress, and the rest of the people who already get it free.
It's pay-off time for the Unions and the people who supported Obama and the DemocRats, and insurance for their votes in the future. It's not for the rest of the poor working slobs in America.
Obama lied – and freedom died!
I want my country back!
A couple years ago I was checking out at a grocery store, placing my modestly-priced items on the counter to pay for them. And the woman (of color) in front of me, was buying the finest of items, the grade-AAA cuts of filet mignon, fine gourmet foods, nothing but the highest quality (which I passed on because I felt it was out of my budget)…and then she whips out her FOOD STAMPS booklet, and very pleasantly pays for it with food stamps. Out of outraged curiosity I trailed behind her out the store, to see her load it all up in a brand new Lexus. Does it make me a racist because i felt like ringing her neck? But of course, it's not her — it's the f#%&*@g Liberals in government who make such a thing possible.
Hope you never need a new liver, Troy. You won't find one easily. Really.
In all those demorats dark little "soles" lays that horrible feeling of "CHANGE" come 2010 when much of which is being railroaded into law will bring every stinking bastard down and driven out of their lofty thrones and back into those Mansions bought by the people of the United States of America. Don't ever senator get till ya drop dead yearly dough into their coffers? They fear the lose of POWER alone if they are dethroned. POWER that gave them such adoration from the Government Made Media and air time to show off their newest botoxed faces.
They fear this Change and they're doing as much damage to our country before being booted out. It might mean another '94 event.. but sadly, outside of Mrs. Palin. There isn't another force to make it happen now.
I'd go on a transplant list the same as you have in the states. When a matching donor was found I'd be taken into surgery
Do you honestly believe that they throw donated organs out in Canada?
If you do you couldn't be more out of touch reality.
As I said, some of you make Baghdad Bob look good. Some of the things you guys come up sound more like something you'd here from illiterates in the third world then free individuals with the ability to critically think for yourselves.
Quite a shame
No, please stifle yourself, that's not what I meant.
Go home Troy. You are really a fool.
You make a comment about liver transplants and I'm the fool lol classic moron material.
The next thing you know you'll call me left wing when I'm probably further to the right then most of you.
If the president really believes that nationalized health care will work he should put every federal employee including himself, congress, the supreme court on it first. Let them demonstrates to the rest of us that it actually works.
Of course the asshole will never do it. He doesn't trust it but that won't stop him from ramming down our throats.
My Dad (the doctor) used to tell me in the seventies (Carter era) that he worked Jan-Sept to pay the government. He worked Oct-Nov to pay his malpractice insurance. Dec earnings he could keep. And this was 35 years ago!
It's true, the Catholic hospitals are good….but they get all sorts of tax exemptions. Makes it hard for private hospitals, like my fathers' were, to compete. But compete he did, and did very well — largely by drastically reducing his own profit margin.
And idiot lefties still called him a greedy fat-cat.
"Surest sign of a lazy jokester is to pick on the post office. You ought to joke about the lines at Starbucks, since they are longer and slower. "
Yeah, but I don't have to go to Starbucks — I brew my own coffee at home. Or go to McDonald's if you really can't wait. Sheesh.
OK, Troy.
Its over.
Have a nice weekend.
Oh, is that why some college students graduate still owing thousands and thousands of dollars to some quasi-government entity for their student loans? Even years later?
Oh, is that why some college students graduate still owing thousands and thousands of dollars to some quasi-government entity for their student loans? Even years later?
I hold very conservative opinions on the current healthcare issue. I wish, though, that there was a more robust private purchase market that would serve the needs of individuals who don't have employer provided insurance. For those who wish to buy insurance but don't qualify for whatever reason the insurance company gives (usually pre-existing conditions), I wish that we could come up with an answer for that. And finally, I would like to protect the right of the individual to do with his money as he wishes, to buy or not buy insurance, and thus accept the consequences of their decision.
On another note, if ObamaCare passes, will there be a new type of insurance that will be available to supplement the public plan, so that I will have access to the care and treatment that I am willing to pay for? Or will Obama make the private market illegal and force misery to be shared equally by all.
Commit this line to memory folks, it needs to be brought into play absolutely every singe time this subject is brought up.
There was a time in the past that larger packages were handled by companies other that the USPS. I can speak technically about this, but one of the companies was REA, Railway Express Agency, a precursor to the likes of UPS and FedEx. I think at one point the USPS made a rule that they got the package business instead of REA, and this put REA out of business. Ok, I may be really wrong on this history lesson, but it just shows that when the government makes rules, other businesses suffer.
There was a time in the past that larger packages were handled by companies other that the USPS. I can't speak technically about this, but one of the companies was REA, Railway Express Agency, a precursor to the likes of UPS and FedEx. I think at one point the USPS made a rule that they got the package business instead of REA, and this put REA out of business. Ok, I may be really wrong on this history lesson, but it just shows that when the government makes rules, other businesses suffer.
yeah well timing is everything. But youre right. Privately run health care obviously bites. Nobody smiles. The only solution is to comletely revamp the health care industry and let the government run it completely. And everyone will smile like Obama.
Excellent argument.
Amen! Best article I've read on this topic.
Harley, my friend — the very impulse to seek restitution through the courts for some grievance, real or imagined, is a Leftist dynamic. You deny that?? No, not all suits are frivilous, but you gotta admit, there has come a sea change in ridiculous lawsuits from the aggrieved Left in years recent. It goes along with the something-for-nothing paradigm. The free-lunch thingie. As in welfare and 'economic justice'. John Edwards was the poster-boy for that particular 'left-leaning occupation'.
(And how're the Ducks? I understand you picked up Billy F? You bastards! ha ha ha)
The govt has been running the Medicare and Medicaid systems for over 40 yrs. If they could "control costs" and improve quality, why haven't they done it in these programs?
Fact is, they haven't and they can't.
So, who can say with a straight face that the govt will improve the remainder of the system?
Anyone, anyone?
Happy 4th of July weekend to you CrisD
Whenever anyone gets all pumped up about Socialized Medicine, this is what I always think of: have you ever been to the post office or the DMV?
Or, as I asked one of the local trolls in another thread:
Name one example of anything that the federal government has run that ended up in better service at a lower price.
How very true Megan! What's more, people who are doctors and nurses usually enjoy what they do- they have a genuine concern for patients in most cases. But Govt. workers often seem like they are some of the most bored, sullen, soulless people on earth. I know that's not true of all of them, but it is with many that I've seen (especially in Congress). We will rue the day we turn over healthcare to a bunch of uninspired governement drones.
Aw thanks.
I was thinking more like the utopians would tax fat people more, since they will undoubtedly be a burden to the system. Kinda like they are doing with smokers. They have aleady kicked around the idea of increasing taxes on junk food. Is they anything these people don't want to socially engineer?
Please, offer us some specifics into what makes the Canadian system so wonderful. Not some vague statement about how you can get into a doctor if you need one, but specifics. Otherwise there is no reason to believe you're anything other than a troll. I do know real, live people from Canada and the U.K. who tell me that socialized care sucks. The anecdotal evidence I have is just as valid as your oh-so-credible assertions that you are Canadian and know better than us "Yanks."
They are not poor if their parents can get a loan on a Mercedes.
Oh yeah, the big gov loves that college loan indentured servitude.
Please everybody, do some looking into the disaster that isEngland's National Health Service…I just left there and at a pharmacy near my hotel was a sign that said said "Doctor Visit 10 pounds" (about $16 or so dollars). It also listed various other services like flu shots etc. The point? Brits TIRED OF WAITING FOR "FREE" SERVICES can opt out and BUY MEDICAL SERVICE…of course the government is still sucking tax money out of them regardless…
If Obamacare passes what you want is a DOCTOR IN THE FAMILY. None of this is about controlling costs, it's about rationing — the elderly are living too long and they cost a lot more than just "medicine". But it will clear up because many younger Americans who fall for the "high mileage" tin golf carts which will pass as cars will be part of the Slaughter on 10th Avenue and dead at the scene.
Again, more of the " I know someone who says' crap. Those people you know are in the extreme minority. Well over 90% of Canadians are happy with their health care. A politician in Canada who tries to move our system towards something more like yours is guaranteed to be looking for a new job come election time; its the third rail up here.
We don't ask anyone about our treatment up here other then our own physicians. As for whose paying, we don't have to worry about that when we go to the doctor or need a test done . I'm going to take a wild guess that you and everyone you know has talked to some paper pusher in an insurance company about either what hospital or doctor you can use, how much money you owe, etc…That's plus one for our system.
Your system wastes a vast amount of resources on things that have no bearing on a persons health . Why people think spending 20-30 cents of every health care dollar on pushing papers around is beyond me. I believe we spend roughly 3 cents on a dollar but I could be wrong, no more then .08 cents.That's a plus two for our system.
Your own GAO states that outcomes from treatment for any number of conditions from cancer to heart disease are similar; some a bit better, some a bit worse, nothing statistically significant. There are a plethora of other sources that state the same thing. Guess what? That same outcome costs our system up 50% less then yours. Who doesn't want the same outcome for less money. Plus 3 for us.
You see, you've fallen into the trap that there are only two ways and its an either or argument. Our system has issues that could be improved as does yours but we're starting from a position where everyone is covered and they all receive comparable treatment to anyone but the extremely wealthy in the U.S.. Your starting from the point where you have a large percentage of your population without coverage, another large percentage of citizens who are under insured and even more who are but one sh*tty luck of the draw disease or job loss away from joining the ranks of the uninsured. I'd say that plus 4
etc, etc…
Have a great 4th of July weekend down there. Its Friday night here and I'm going out to spend some time with friends.
remember, all those post office folks are also getting great federal benefits. They will probably be exempt from Obamacare, as well. High expenses, inefficient and crummy service, that's our civil servants.
Well Steve, your letter is going to arrive postage due. Current rate for a 1 oz. letter is $0.44.
I feel like I'm becoming an ad for these guys, but AndrewPrice and Lawhawk are doing a great series of articles about health care over at the blog — http://commentarama.blogspot.com/
It's been very well done, with some pretty surprising information. I highly recommend it. Click on their Health Care Reform "index."
While I'm at is, they did a great article on Honduras too.
Jimmy – checked out The Mae Shi. fantastic, and oh so appropriate.
Suing doctors will be a thing of the past under Obama Kare. The federal government won't allow any law suits.
Government, by it's very nature, is a monopoly. Not only is it a monopoly but it is a monopoly on steroids. No private company, no matter how powerful, can legally use the threat of imprisonment or violence to compel you to pay for it's goods and services whether you use them or not. No private company can legally use the threat of imprisonment or violence to prevent you from competing with it.
It is well established that monopolies always provide poor quality products accompanied by poor quality service at a high price. Why? Because their customers have no other options. If the customer needs/wants the product they have no choice but to put up the poor quality and the poor service and the high prices. With government, the consumer even loses the option to simply do without.
Its really quite simple and yet liberals seem to have a hard time grasping the concept. I've tried to explain it to liberal friends. It does no good. They remain convinced that government, by its very nature, is somehow above this sort of thing. It's like they think everyone who works for the government is some sort of virtuous saint who gives 110% and expects nothing in return. Well almost everyone. Government sorts with an R after their names are the devil after all.
You said: "In a socialized system, patients are treated equally, period". I think it's basically true, all patients are treated equally…. equally BAD. My country has its own Medicare, it's the national medical service called ESSALUD and it's a monument to inefficiency. Almost anybody who can afford a private medical service, use Essalud services although they are cheaper or free. Why? Do you remember the postal office? Something like that but much much worse, Essalud's service it's a nightmare, I understand the fears of Americans about "Obama-care".
This is hilarious stuff. But let's just pick up on a few things.
Gary, bless him, has been forced to descend from his ivory tower to post a broken speaker. As the first section of the article makes clear, he's repulsed by the concept of having to mix with the 'little people'. Someone like him should not be subjected to this kind of mundane experience. How DARE the working stiffs at the counter ask how he's doing? Did they pick him out of the queue for the concierge service he so clearly deserves, what with him being Gary and everything? No! And some of them took breaks! Breaks! On long shifts in a busy office! Do they not recognise his status?
The opening stretch of this article dismantles any argument that comes afterwards. 'Screw America, I just want what I can grab' isn't a great sentiment, but it's the gist of this one. It strikes me as the rantings of a spoiled child who doesn't want anyone else to have the shiny things that he has. Not just for the suggestion that people routinely die waiting for essential operations in the UK – I mean, c'mon, there's propaganda and then there's propaganda – but for the obvious dodge. The dodge being: saying that phenomenally expensive hospitals *must* be great because extremely rich people fly over to be treated in them, when the argument isn't about the quality of treatment available, but about access. If the blue-collar guys at the post office annoyed Gary, then he's in for a real shock if he has to claim on his medical insurance. He'll encounter a welter of people who have no real connection to the business of heath, and who work only to protect their money by blocking his treatment. At least they're not the government though, right?
[...] via Big Hollywood [...]
It does but I'm not allowed to update my address online because the last time I renewed my license I did that online. Now I can understand the DMV wanting you to come in at least once every 8 years to get your picture taken but I'm not actually renewing my license, just changing the address. Government bureaucracy at work. Can't wait until it's running the health care system with the same efficiency.
My dad was a doctor then, too. He said the same thing, so Gary, I know you are not making this up. Still, there are people who will say, yeah but that December was a good month! Sheesh.
I'm glad you did. Lots of energy with a catchy beat. Also, don't know if you were able to grab the lyrics at the end…
scream…cry…pray…confess…
God…will…do…the rest…
Love it!
Great article! Nationalized Health Care would be a total disaster. The Government screws up everything they touch and makes it twice as expensive as it should be. And don't get me started on the fraud, theft and mismanagement of our money. Obama and his gang of Chicago Marxist thugs have got to go!
dr nic:
I will fight Obamacare tooth and nail.
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You will have a lot of help, Dr. Thanks!!
You mean, givemefreehealthcare.com don't you?
Great article! Thanks!
I used to read Tom Sowell's column in my paper all the time — that is until the herd of neo-liberals moved into town. They complained bitterly. They said he wasn't educated enough, and didn't know much about what he was writing about to subject it to the good readers of the newspapers. The conservatives in this once bell weather community knew better and stood up for Sowell. Yet, the editors ignored the conservatives and opted to drop the column.
He still writes great articles!
I want my country back!
I went to my doctor the other day too. The receptionist apologized for the doctor running late due to an emergency. I asked to be rescheduled for another day. Again she apologized because she had to reschedule me a couple of times before. I told her I didn’t mind as I understand emergencies happen – just like they happened to me and my family . This very same doctor, who was running late because of an emergency the other day, had, on two different occasions in the past performed two emergency surgeries –after midnight — on members of my family.
I chose him for my last surgery — which didn’t have very good odds for recovering — because I trusted him and found him to be a truly caring person.
God bless him and others like him.
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Socialied medicine is what finally got Dr. nic's in-laws ( my parents ) to get their citizenship after 30 years in the country. Long story short, my dad once got pretty sick, and when they took are of one problem, they were able to fix an even bigger one. The next time he went back to Denmark after that, he realized that their system never would have found the big problem in time. I think that was when they finally started thinking of the US as home.
The ACLU claims to be big on defending the Bill of Rights. How about they start defending the 10th Amendment for a change?
what a rocking post…
i worked for 3 months for the federal government. it was a george romero movie …everyone hated their job, walked about trying to look busy, and frankly were quite unattractive as a group.
sorry for being shallow
I had to get some emergency dental work yesterday. Got in and out within a few hours and am on penicillin and painkillers now.
Who knows how long it would have taken if I had to ask for permission or fill out a set of forms to see if it was "necessary" or not.
As others have mentioned, the Post Office analogy is a wonderful one.
At my local office, a friend who worked there explained why the lines are long — it's administration policy. "Whenever we see the lines get short, we're supposed to start closing windows because the idea is to discourage people from coming to the Post Office," he said. "They (Post Office execs) want people to buy stamps at Albertson's or online."
That's what you'll see happen with national health care — administrative roadblocks to discourage your use of it.
I am overweight, there is no doubt about it, but I did it to myself. I am getting so sick of people blaming everyone but themselves for how they are. Yes, McDonald's helped, but they did not make me drive in there. People, start taking responsibility for your own actions.
And this healthcare plan is a joke. These politicians cannot even run the government properly, I sure as hell don't want them managing my healthcare.
Of course they will and why? Because they have no concept of reality. They see a doctor and they think wealthy. OK. Maybe when he or she is done paying for that education which is no starting to resemble the debt of Bolivia in cost, and has his home and cars paid for. But what about paying for the kids educations? To me the hard work of being a doctor is not something for these leftists to take lightly but they do. Any thing that has real sacrifice to many of these people doesn't make a difference to them. They don't get it.
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I goes to different Starbucks stores around town and, while it depends on where each one is located in a high-traffic or low-traffic area, I founded that waiting in a line at these stores moved along in a much faster pace than any post office location I went to. Most Starbucks stores are generally well-staffed and even-paced than the post office locations. Two weeks ago, I went a local post office to mail a package and it took me about 20 minutes waiting while two employees there took their times. Afterward, I went to a Starbucks store with only two employees working, took me less than 5 minutes!
In Britain and Canada where they have ‘free’ national health care, waiting times of two years are not uncommon to receive life-saving surgery. And a lot can happen in that time. Like…you can die.
That's funny. I guess I should be dead then. I am Canadian and I had to have my appendix out, didn't have to wait 2 years. It was life-saving surgery, it was close to bursting. So you can mock our system and other countries that have "free" national health care. No one I know has EVER had to wait "2 years" for life-saving surgery. This is just the right wing demonizing "socialized" health care. And by the way you DO NOT have the best health care in the world. Look it up, it's not true. When your country wakes up and realizes everyone should have health care, then you can join the rest of world. (Like Britain, Denmark, France, etc.)
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"Okay, Gary, you obviously have no compassion. What about the poor? What about the poor who can’t afford health insurance? I would ask you for a definition of what ‘they’ can afford. Can they afford that HD wide-screen? Twenty-four-hour Direct-TV All Sports channel? How about that brand new Hummer? I know a lot of people who say they can’t afford health insurance, but manage to take three vacations a year on their boat and have more toys that I’ve ever had.
Choices. People make choices in life. They choose to spend their money on health insurance. Or…they upgrade their wide screen. Get their house painted. Buy a new dining room set. Or…they save up to pay for their health care insurance."
You've obviously made the choice to be deluded. Can you really write this with a straight face? You think that the majority of people who do not have health insurance in America are squandering their money on Hummers or getting their HOUSE painted?? What population exactly are you looking at? Because that doesn't sound like any of the impoverished I know. And not even just the impoverished–it doesn't even sound like the typical, working class American! From what I can tell, you don't have an ounce of compassion OR logic. So why don't you just go ahead and admit that you're as insensitive as you sound and spare us of your warped assumptions that others care more about sports channels and vacations than their own health care.
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