The Party of ‘No’
by Gary Graham
Are we the party of ‘NO’?
Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, et al, have gone on record to call the Republican Party ‘The Party of No’.
Why? Because we say NO to socialism? NO to racism? NO to weak foreign policy footing, kowtowing to despotic world leaders? Because we say NO to socialized medicine? NO to fomenting class-warfare, NO to raising taxes on the affluent? NO to killing babies in the womb, NO to redefining traditional marriage? NO to calling returning veterans extremist nut-jobs to be placed on a watch-list? NO to thinking we can spend and tax our way back to prosperity by saddling our grandkids with a Mt. Everest sized debt?
Okay…maybe they’re right; maybe we are the party of NO. But I’d like to offer a slight amendment to that moniker (thanks, Dr. Kloor):
We are the Party of ‘Know‘.
We know the principles upon which this country was founded. The principles you Lefties are always dragging through the mud. Little things like individual liberty. And respecting the flag. And love of God and country. And respect for our fighting troops. And smaller, limited government. And a dedication to our international autonomy. And the belief in peace through strength. Trust, but verify. Rugged individualism and personal responsibility.
You see…I look upon these values in a very positive light. It’s only when I see them attacked on a daily basis from the likes of the New York Times, the ACLU, the Washington Post, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, The Huffington Post, the Daily KOS, the Daily Show, David Letterman, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Congress and RINO Republicans and every other arrogant, leftist collectivist punk who wants to completely redesign our Constitution and fashion instead a Eurotrash version of a socialist utopia….well…yeah, when I see these sacred principles attacked, I stand up and yell, NO!
NO, YOU CAN’T!!!
Ya see, Lefty… We know all about you. We know the truth. And we know you’re full of crap.
We are the party of KNOW.
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(*THANK YOU, CHRIS MUIR!!)
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No Way, No How, We Know!
Right on Gary! The comic is absolutely priceless and true! It is too bad the Dems don't know the difference between "no" and "know".
Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're the freeking liberals, Gary.
As luck would have it, I just bought iron-on transfers for t-shirt—I'm making a "Party of Know" one for me—and I'll send one to the wonderful Mr. Graham at Big Hollywood, too—-Andrew,what's the snail-mai address?
Batting 1000% ,GG—out of the ball park!
Know Way, Know How!
To be honest, I would have to accept the name. I'm saying "no" to the spending and the rest of this garbage from Washington for the same reason I say "no" to the wife when she wants the credit card. I "know" what's coming at the beginning of the month. Now pardon me while I find a safe corner from the wife.
They call Republicans "obstructionists", but the GOP has no power to obstruct anything. Republicans can say "No"until the cows come home, but it won't stop the Democrats from doing whatever they want. So what's to stop them? It seems Democrats need the sanction of Republicans so their radical socialist agenda isn't rejected by the American people, most of whom wouldn't elect Obama for town dogcatcher if they knew what he really stood for.
I thought the Party of No was:
Can we see the pictures of Air Force One flying over NY – NO!
Can we Add an amendment to this bill – NO!
Can we release the information we received from the terrorist – NO!
Can we see where the TARP money has been spent – NO!
Can we read the bill before it is brought to the floor for a Vote – NO!
Can we investigate Dodd, Murtha, Rangel, and a few others – NO!
Can we see the "Recovery Act" spending report – NO!
Good thing Republicans are perceived the party of NO!
No, no, no, non, nyet, nein, and in case I wasn't clear–NO! More good has been accomplished with that one simple word than all the squishy RINO rhetoric of the past fifty years put together.
'Cause we are the party of the adults. You know, those evil adults who JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! WE NEED IT NOW!!! Adults know when and why to say "no"?
The Party of 'No Way'
No way are the Dems going to sucker us to support socialists and socialist policies.
No way are we going to keep our mouths shut when we see our country in danger.
No way are we going to be intimidated by the MSM and groups like ACORN.
How about: The party of "missing the point"?
To lead (which politicians left and right should aspire to) requires that one propose solutions. And if you are the minority party, this means that you propose alternatives.
B*tching about supposed voter fraud by ACORN (which election has ever been compromised as a result of the supposed voter fraud perpetratedby ACORN?! Answer = no election ever) … is not leading!
The Republican party has come up with no solution to the banking crisis, no solution to the auto industry crisis, no solution to the situation in Pakistan… in every case their only proposal is: "let them fail".
Really, you should call yourselves the party of "let them fail".
How Now Brown Kow!
Yes! I'm a proud member of the Party of No!
No to dumb legislation! No to wasteful spending! No to pie-in-the-sky, liberal feel-good social engineering. No to Democratic party hypocrisy! No to unqualified politicians filling leadership positions in our most important Departments. NO! NO! NO! To the idea that "I won" is adequate justification to ruin the country with immature ideas and programs. No! to the 53% that wanted a 'common man' in the presidency and not a statesman, an internationally recognized, world-class statesman. No to teleprompter integrity and intelligence. At this rate, even Hillary couldn't win in 2012.
Gary, while I agree that what you say describes the rank and file of the Republican Party, our elected officials seem to be the party of "no idea what to do now."
As a Proud American, and citizen of the greatest country the world has ever known without exception, and as a conservative, I’m proud to be a member of the party of no!
take a hike troll boy
I tried re-reading this article. Aside from the very pseudo-clever substitution of know for no, this article takes up a lot of space in order to say: "We don't like democrats! They are really socialists! Boo!"
But see, that's why you've been tagged with a label that's stuck. Because you aren't adding anything to the conversation. You have devolved into a gang of nay-sayers and party-poopers.
There really only one thing wrong with saying "no" and that's when you don't have anything to offer as an alternative. Which seems to be the case.
KNOW!
(haha, get it? I'm here all week folks.)
pretend for a second that I'm a moderate voter (you know, the kind that the republican party will sooner or later figure out that they need in order to return to relevance).
How is either "no!" or "know!" supposed to endear me? Either way, you are still monosyllabic.
sure, whatever, you win. . . leave
hahahaha! Janet: you need to change your hairstyle, girl!
there is a great deal of truth in that statement.
you're still here? Go away pooh bear!
In that case, you may learn something.
I see no need to boot this person. At least she engages in a discussion. She is often funny and is always challenging. some of the trolls who post here have very little to offer, and often seem deranged. I have no problem with someone who asks us to step it up.
Again a total kick butt post. Of course we are the party of no. No you can't have something for nothing. No, Nichts, NEIN! No.
And I know one thing….that the principals that tis country is founded on are a hell of a lot more successful than the so called Utopia Obama and his flying monkeys want to shove down our throats.
Outstanding!
Lets not be trite. How about yes to a return to paying as you go, pulling your own weight and self responsibility. How about a return to meritocracy vs. affimative action. How about telling the UAW to pack off and get in line with all the other creditors and shareholders who lost their dough on GM and Chrysler?
Is that a good enough start, or are you looking for more handouts?
The Democratic party has come up with no solution to the banking crisis, no solution to the auto industry crisis, no solution to the situation in Pakistan.
Democrats are leading the 2 Branches of elected Government so when do you take ownership?
Actually, the GOP had a number of creative suggestions during the last budget go round but you may have noticed the Dems didn't let them play. Neither did the press pay attention.
Such is life. Hey, we are not offering free mortgages and unlimited bailouts and free healthcare for all. Clearly this is what the voters want.
Hmmm'
I agree, the Republican Party is presently bereft of good ideas and leadership. I’m not particularly drawn to them either. Unfortunately, Pres Obama isn’t any better. He was just more electable this last time. IMO, American politics and government is in a slump. We lack leaders, executives, and statesmen. Fortunately, I speak only for myself. I don’t have the answers. Do you? If you are drawn to Pres Obama’s style of leadership and governance or if you are charmed by his superficiality then support him proudly. I on the other hand will exercise my right to protest my government’s irrationality and lack of substance.
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"Is that a good enough start, or are you looking for more handouts?"
and what does the republican party or "conservative America" do if the majority of Americans are in fact looking for a hand out? What if the majority of American's don't think your policy outline is good enough? Will republicans sit on the sideline until mainstream America wakes up from socialistic insanity – THAT's your PLAN?!
FYI – I thought that too, until I read some very foul posts in the last few days. This troll is just like the others. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day…
I love this meme going round the teabagging scene which is like: Principals of this Country are vastly contrary to Obama's platform/direction. I have a few questions about this concept.
1) are you refering to Obama's publicly displayed policy or are you just refering to his secret communist plan?
2) if you are refering to any of Obama's recent decisions and actions (and not your inside scope on what he's "really" doing)… then please, what is so contrary to the founding principals of this country exactly?
The original teabaggers were not against "taxation" simply. They were against "Taxation without representation". Which is to say, maybe they weren't thrilled with taxation with representation, but they weren't protesting it either. They were reasonably okay with it, in fact. As long as they got the representation part of it.
umm yeah
I am begining to suspect I spoke too soon.
I'm big on benefit of the doubt, but usually end up proven wrong.
Oh well you give people rope what they do with it is up to them.
have you guys ever booted someone? Maybe I need to be careful, other wise you will treat me like the UK treated Savage?! (That would be ironic, wouldn't it?)
I had the same thought. At one point, I thought it would make an interesting addition to the community, but it blew that chance. I no longer have any desire to engage this idiot.
slapping down an extended hand?
Stay classy.
Not only does the Republican party have to deal with the RINOs in our own ranks, we also have to deal with the BINO Democratic Party – Bipartisan In Name Only. The Dims don't want consensus, they only want to appear to be working with the Republicans so that when the liberal policies fail, the Dims can then blame it on the Republicans. They don't want esteemed colleagues from the opposition – they just want scapegoats for when they're wrong, because Rule #1 is that the Dims are never wrong, and Rule #2 is the Pubs are always wrong. Rule #3 is when the Dims are wrong, refer to Rules 1 & 2.
I'd say we're taking it. Obama still reminds us that he started with a big mess, to be sure, but that's only going to get him so far.
The clock is ticking: He's got to 2012. No doubt by then he'll still be reminding us that he inherited a big mess, but he will be re-elected (or not) based on how well he's done with that mess.
This should be on another t-shirt—-I agree, this is brilliant, concise analysis.
2) if you are refering to any of Obama's recent decisions and actions (and not your inside scope on what he's "really" doing)… then please, what is so contrary to the founding principals of this country exactly?
Which recent decision? The one to get a dog or the one to fly one of the presidential 747's over New York?
LOL! duck-n-cover, soldier. And keep your hands up.
well, yes. If the majority want hand outs and we have a democracy, what do you suggest? Do you want us to advocate for the overthrow of the govt?
CgntvDssdnt,
I actually hope you are right, as Americans we need to solve these issues and soon. Own them and then you can solve them. Change "Hope" into Wisdom and they will be solved. "Empathy" into Knowledge and we will be on the right path.
Republicans aren't the party of no, the Obama administration is the party of NO. NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, NO REAL CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, NO COLLEGE TRANSCRIPS, NO COLLEGE PAPERS, NO PASSPORT, NO VETTING, NO EXPERIENCE, NO CONSTITUTION, NO FREEDOM, NO TAX RELIEF, NO SPENDING CUTS, NO TRANSPARENCY, NO PHOTOS OR MANIFEST OF AIR FORCE ONE…NO, NO, NO
No
Well said and well done, Gary. I love it: "The Party of Know" I would like to see thousands with those signs and on their t-shirts at the next Tea Party rallies on July 4th. God Bless you. That is a winner!
I will chalk it up to their parents not having the kahones to tell them no when they wanted something they couldn't have… so they see it as a bad thing… Well my momma told me No quite frequently and I have no problems with it…
Banking crisis…….
oh yeah that's when Government Sponsored Entities used the CRA to force banks to loan money to people that can't pay their mortgages. Yes this answer to that is to hand out more money than we've spent of four years in four months to Banking institutions, for them to give the government controlling interest at the expense of current shareholders, monopolize the the financial industry by forcing mergers and the act surprised when the pay bonuses government officials wrote into the initial bill.
Well here's one Idea from a right winger Mr. Neofascist. When the banks offer to return TARP money, ACCEPT IT AND PAY DOWN THE GD debt. Did I raise my voice I'm sorry I do that when reminded of what halved my 401K this year.
There is no safe corner from your wife!
The birth certificate thing really needs to be left alone.
When asked if the Republicans were really the party of Know Joe Biden said he didn't know……………
If the Republicans are branded as the party of "No", it means they're doing their jobs.
The fact that Congressional logjamming is portrayed as a bad thing is proof that Democrats still don't understand conservative thought.
How about:
Can we see Obama's birth certificate? – NO!
Can we see Obama's college transcripts? – NO!
Can we see John Kerry's military records? – No!
Can we see Michelle's $400 sneakers? – Why, Yes, of course!
Can we see the Kingfish and Andy eating a hamburger? – Sure thing, glad you're interested.
It's a good thing the important news is not sequestered
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I understand that ACORN is under investigation in several states for voter fraud. It must be that all those states are just "mean spirited" red states.
Gary, your remarkable insight keeps opening my eyes. One thing I would like to know, how can we get an audit of all members of Congress and the Senate for the last 10 years of tax statements, regardless of party? I would like to know how many of them are in arrears. It is very easy for them to spend my hard earned money, I just want to "know" that they are all paying their fair share as well.
Then again, apparently not paying your taxes makes you eligible for any or all cabinet positions in the current administration.
The mess he and his friends helped create?
Yep.
You've seen the videos of Frank and co. denying that there's anything wrong with Freddie and Fannie, right?
Who got a boatload of $$ from Fannie and Freddie?
Your guy..
He's at the top of the list.
I await your , " yeah, but…"
During the last eight years, the Democrats were the party of 'No'. They were also the party of hatred. They didn't just want President Bush gone, they wanted him jailed, hung, behind bars, etc. Their thig ACORN protesters had the signs, and the live size body of President Bush hanging in effigy.
I used to be a Kennedy Democrat. There is nothing left of that party. It is now a group of people that hate America, the language, the religion, the Constitution, the flag and the people who voted for them. I have nothing in common with them. The Republicans aren't much better. As for a spokesperson, they don't need one. They simply need to walk the walk. THAT would be refreshing!
That is honestly what the Tea parties are all about. We are a group of people who have been forgotten. NO ONE speaks for We, the People. We love our country, our flag and the Constitution. Since NEITHER party will stand up and speak for the proud and patriotic Americans, we will stand and speak for ourselves. Lord knows, we can't trust or belive any of you anymore.
It is too late. They have the big house and both little houses and there is absolutely nothing – at this time – we can do about it 'cept to hope some mod. dems can slow things down a bit.
Hypocritical, yes. Ironic, no.
I am trying to think of all the things the Democrats said "yes" to when they were out of power.
Could someone help me?
This country was founded on "no." Our forefathers formed this nation because we were saying "no" to taxation, no to monarchy, no to powerful central rule. There is no "yes" implicit in our form of government on the federal level. We are the nation of no.
WOW!!!
Where was all this "knowing" for the last 8 years???
Had you all been the party of "know" for even a few minutes during the last 8, then you would have a shred of credibility, but alas you weren't, and you don't…
Gee, thanks. Keeping my hands up makes it easier to pick the pocket. Bad enough when she does it after Washington has been doing it for years.
I'm starting to notice that. And it always starts with " Honey, I'm going shopping".
Now pardon me while I find a safe corner from the wife.
You're trying to hide from the omnipotent one??? Forget it soldier.. you might have to do the French thing and come out surrendering, carrying the white flag and the box of chocolates already
I'm thinking the "party of NO" should be made into a full-scale commercial from what I read… Great article, Gary!
Cognitive… did you miss the entire point of Gary's article? It sure seems like it…
Democratic theory of Socialism: NO! (We have a capitalistic system…The proposal: NONE.. why shoudl there be? we've had a workikng capitalistic system for 200+ years..
Democratic theory of racism: NO! (Affirmative Action? Gone… there's your proposal… hiring quotas? Gone.. there's your proposal… get rid of it..)
weak foreign policy footing, k: NO!! (Proposal: Don't end the F-22 program, don't cut the missile defense program…).. there .. I gave you two proposals.
socialized medicine: NO!!! Proposal: Let the free-market handle it!!! (this is one of my pet peeves with the St. Louis Libertarians… who seem to be leaning toward UHC.)
Sometimes the best proposal is to let the system correct itself, with only a smattering of overview…sometimes with none needed. You may not see it as a proposal, but I do… are there certain times when the Govt has to step in? Yep, but those times are FEW and far between.
I have NO problem with being a member of the party of NO. Especially when you consider that the Dims are acting like a group of 8 year old's in a candy store and the Repuplican's are offering the only adult supervision! On the other hand, I can see the point of all the comments about what alternatives the Republicans have to offer. Frankly, I'm completely unimpressed with what my party has offered up so far. They continue to act like low fat Dims! If only they would get the points that we continue to express in these blogs, they wouldn't be in the minority position they currently occupy! As of now, I can't support re-electing any of them. Why? Simple, if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem! In 35 years as a registered voter, I can't remember being this disappointed in my government!
THANKS! What a great distinction!
All politicians are liars, the few good people that try to enter the fray (either party) are eventually co-opted in order to survive or sent packing in disgust. The GOP was taken down because they failed to support their own ideologies & voters called em on it. The Dems should be wary, the citizens are attempting to take their government back, they just misread this as support. Their current behavior (thinking the people support them) is childishly uninformed. Just remember…1 down 1 to go! It is time to be an American, not an Elephant or an ass.
I wish I could get away that cheaply. I have however heard of such a thing happening.
Wow, this is the closest thing to a coherent column Gary has yet to submit. However, he is, as always, wrong.
The Republicans are rightfully branded "the Party of No" because while they march lockstep in voting against every Obama Admin proposal (even those watered down to gain some Repub votes), the party has yet to come up with any solutions of their own beyond broad principle statements that belie their actions of the past eight years.
Repubs particularly embarrassed themselves when they pretended to have an alternate budget ready (on April Fool's Day, of course) and to this day are failing to provide alternate solutions, preferring instead to rile up indignant rage and bile at every supposed "gaffe" of the Obama Administration.
We should be 'The Party of HELL no!!'
We are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore!
Be proud of your stand against Socialism!
Do you mean the mess Obama helped EXACERBATE? For people who claim to want to help, all Ive seen them do is collect more power unto themselves and proclaim that the rest of us paeons are too stupid and helpless to control our lives anymore. And never did I hear Bush talk about forming a mandatory Civilian Defense (but you libs were so damn worried about a draft during those 8 yrs even when it was your own deranged people – Al Sharpton anyone? – calling for it). That alone tells me Obama isnt interested in any "mess" he created
And how the F*** dare you call what our military men and women have done in Iraq and the Middle East a "mess"?! Theyve done nothing but CLEAN UP the mess that Clinton helped create.
To CgntvDssdnt:
To call yourself a "Moderate" with everything that's going on in the country today-the absolute corruption, the slide into Socialism, and a President with a fixation to remake this country into something that is the exact opposite of what is outlined in our U.S. Constitution is really just trying to cover up the fact that you're really a COWARD. Grow some balls and pick a side of the fence. Research the real problems that your fellow U.S. Citizens are up against. I'm so sick of these lazy, stupid whiners that hide behind the "Moderate" label.
Yes, there's that. And then there's "No, let's not spend THAT money, let's spend THIS money to meet the same ends." Ack! If they really want to parent us, then they need to learn to say "NO" with the same conviction of a parent – realizing that it won't make them our favorite people a lot of the time, but that they are acting in our nation's best interest.
Nobama would be a good start.
They said yes to signing over to Bush the power to declare war. They said yes to the Patriot Act. They said yes the No Child Left Behind Act. They said yes to the prescription drug benefits program. They said yes to making retroactive changes to the FISA laws to protect the Bush Administration and the big telecoms. They said yes to the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, although they insisted on sunset provisions. I don't agree with a lot of this, but you can't argue they were as obstructionist as the current minority party.
That makes the Demo's the party of don't know! In the land of OZ, you have to consult the Wiz and his teleprompter doesn't work.
Thank you, Sharon…for someone finally taking the gloves off! I thought I was going to have to come back and kick this troll's ass myself. I've written 24 of these things, (averaging 1900 wds/per)…and frankly I'm exhausted. You guys take it for a while. Pick off each one of his absurdist-reality points, using reason and specific examples of where they're missing it. (They hate it when we get specific, it messes with their 'facts'.)
These Lefties think we're the problem and they have answers that work in the real world. Just like those brilliant libs in the TV show THE WEST WING… Liberalism works great every time…in FICTION.
These psuedo-intellectuals (including the MSM) search the web for collectivist reinvention of historical fact until they find something that supports their alternate-reality universe; then spew it freely, now backed up by Barackum &Pelosi's Flying D.C. Circus. Up-is-down, good-is-bad. High-wire acts (with a net, the taxpayer), exporbitant fly-by photo-ops, and plenty of Clowns.
And the MSM report it all with a straight face while they 're-envision' America.
We can join the other cattle being lead to slaughter…or fight! Take 'em down.
Only 100 days and over 1,000 'gaffes' as you call them. I rest my case. Conservatism is always the vigorous opponent of socialism. We are NOT the party of the mindless collective. We are individuals and proudly oppose Obama and his minion of socialists. I take it you are one of the party of Don't Know.
Thank you, Mark S — now you guys are starting to hammer it back into shape! Any careful review of the facts show how it was Liberal/Socialist ideas that created the financial collapse and how free-market capitalism is the only way out.
WE trust people to decide what's best for people…and it's government that gets in the way.
THEY trust government to decide what's best for people…and it's people who get in their way.
Analyzing history and past despots of tyranny… which side do think 'they' support?
Over 1,000? Yeah. Sure.
You invoke the word "socialism" without backing it up twice in six sentences, and then say you're NOT part of a mindless collective?
How about intelligently refuting what I say above? Prove to me the Repubs have a plan, any plan, other than saying "no" and hoping the economy tanks or we're hit by a terrorist attack so they can get back into power.
I see. The Dems said "yes" to good ideas.
Well, when the current administration comes up with some, I am sure the Republicans will say "yes".
In the meantime, I expect them to continue to say "no".
Well, you and I will have to disagree about how "good" those ideas were… the point here was that the Democrats were a lot more willing to work with Republicans, and now that the shoe is on the other foot, the Republicans are showing that they're not really "for" anything, except to get back into power at any cost.
I am not quite sure how opposing the popular President helps them "get back into power at any cost."
Some politicians (e.g. Specter) seem to think that moving towards Obama is the best way to retain their power.
I prefer that my representatives say "no" to things that they oppose rather than pretend they don't and say "yes." If the Republicans are only saying "no", it just might be because the post-partisan Obama isn't giving them anything to agree with him on.
I didn't vote for Obama, but I was definitely not expecting him to make so many proposals that I vehemently didn't agree with.
Are you saying that the president owning a dog, or the AF1 buzzing NYC… are either of these contrary to "principals that tis country is founded"??? Sorry but I just don't see it.
Lets start here
so·cial·ism
Pronunciation:\ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function:noun
Date:1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Banks, Car Companies, Wall Street Funds for starter and this is within the first 100 days. Of course you may have a definition that is in the new 2009 democratic dictionary.
Lets start here
so·cial·ism
Pronunciation:\ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function:noun
Date:1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Banks, Car Companies, Wall Street Funds for starter and this is within the first 100 days. Of course you may have a definition that is in the new 2009 democratic dictionary.
I'm taking it then Cog… You haven't heard the following quote:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "
I'd wager the AF2 (by the way, the President wasn't on it.. so it was NOT Air Force 1…) NYC joyride kinda went against some of _those_ Principals listed in some "petty little document" that helped found our country.
Aw Gee did I hit a nerve and you came out of your coma? Too bad you didn't read the Republican plan put forth to Congress but then you would not do that anyway. You would rather deny it's existance and blather on about how intelligent you are. I will have to admit that the Republican 'plan' isn't exactly to my liking but it is a better approach to solving the issues at hand. The Democrats approach is to hide the bills so no one can read them in time to act before calling for the vote with bulling and hysterial 'The sky is falling' tactics The Republicans are in favor of not damaging the economy further by enacting feel good socialistic pork laden legislation that does nothing to fix the economy and everything to increase their power base at the expense of the average American taxpayer. Now that would be a better idea. It isn't so much a plan as restraint on spending in time of fisiscal crisis but then again who in the power hungry Drunken Democratic party would listen? Certainly not you. I don't need to do your research for you. I think the Congressional record is a good place to srtart though.
So Mark and 98ZJUSMC… It seems that the argument are putting forth goes like this:
1) the Constitution aims to "insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare".
2) AF2 buzzing NYC was NOT providing domestic Tranquility, was NOT providing for the common defense, and was NOT promoting general Welfare.
3) Because 1 and 2 are TRUE, then following this is the implication: Barack Obama is going against the Constitution.
… That's what you are saying? (If that's what you are saying… I'm not going to bother continuing a retort. Your reasoning speaks for itself.)
I'm just using the leftists own argument that anything President Bush did was "unconstitutional" and using it for the same purposes in terms of President Obama.
I'm thinking you misunderstand t he the idea of using absurd ideas to show the other side that they're ideas are absurd…. It's something the left has done forever thrown absurd ideas out there and try to make them stick… so why can't we play by the same rules? Oh that's right, we on the right aren't allowed to do so… otherwise, we're just rabble-rousers.
But you are not. The left criticized Bush (and now, Obama) for over-use of signing statements.
Over-use of signing statements or the placement of quote "activist" judges would be reasonable things to cite against Bush/Obama for infringing on the Constitution.
A screw up like the AF2 buzzing NYC is grounds for someone getting fired – but I doubt can argue that its "unconstitutional".
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