I’m a Racist Coward!
by Gary GrahamI am appalled. I just found out that I am a racist and a coward and I did not know it.
Eric Holder said yesterday, “Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards.”
How could I have been so self-deluded?
Wow. I know, huh? The things you find out about yourself if you just listen to newly appointed/elected government officials.
I always thought that I treated everyone fairly in my daily life with no preference or deference to anyone based solely on skin color. I always loved the words of Dr. Martin Luther King who said so eloquently, that he dreamed of a day when people “would be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”. But now…I find out that that philosophy is racist and cowardly. And it is proclaimed by the top law enforcement officer in the land, our new Attorney General, Eric Holder.
Apparently, I’m a racist coward because I want to be color blind. This great national offense of racism doesn’t want to die – even though we just elected our first black president. Just when you thought it was okay to climb out of the past, to put racial injustice and animosity behind us…the Attorney General in the national media yesterday drags it back out.
At my favorite Baptist Church in North Hollywood, the congregation being 90% Black, I have often been asked to get up and read long passages of scripture for special events. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Good Friday, Easter Sunday. Guess they thought my acting background translated to passable delivery of the Lord’s word; I was always happy to oblige, and I hope I did not disappoint. But each year, when the month of February rolled around, I was always asked the same question: Would I like to participate in a special Black History Month pageant? My answer was always the same: No thank you, I don’t believe in it. And their response was always the same: A puzzled look washes over the inquirer’s face, he starts to respond, then not knowing how, drifts away, puzzled. No matter how many times I explained my position, it seemed to make so little sense to them, as to gain no purchase in memory banks. This yearly ritual has been repeated six years running.
I don’t believe in Black History Month any more than I believe in White History Month. To me, Black History Month is a complete insult to Blacks. We must prop up an entire race of people, give them special awards, honors, and recognitions, underscoring their accomplishments and achievements and contributions to society, based on their color… as if it’s so truly remarkable that they did it in the first place…and are African American to boot? Stop the presses! A black person accomplished something great! As if they couldn’t have done it on their own, without help. As if they are somehow inferior to whites. That they somehow overcame their blackness…and did all these wonderful things despite the obvious disadvantage, encumbrance, disability…of being a person of color.
Am I the only one in America…who finds this the least bit patronizing and insulting…and downright, well, racist?
I’ve got a lot of black friends who have accomplished great things in the arts and music world, in the business world, the legal profession, the medical profession…and not one of them has ever expected anything from me other than to be a good friend. I celebrate the achievements of all my friends with love and support and good cheer, and with absolutely no patronizing overt or subliminal addendum of how wonderful you did all this “and you’re a black man, too! Amazing!” I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period.
I believe it was the great Vince Lombardi who, when chastising a player for a grandstanding end zone dance, post touchdown, would yell, “Knock off the hoopla – act like you do it all the time!” We could all learn something about humility…and equality…from those words.
But now I find out we’re a nation of cowards because we don’t talk about race enough.
Mr. Holder went on to say, Even when people mix at the workplace or at after work social events, many Americans in their free time are still segregated inside what he called “race-protected cocoons.”
Uh…yeah. Maybe because people like Eric Holder are so preoccupied with race that every waking thought is consumed with it? And they insist on inflicting into every thought and daily conversation within the black community a general and constant grievance-addled invective that fosters a victimhood mindset? Just a thought.
So…let me get this straight. If I’m a racist coward because I don’t want to talk about race all the time, don’t want to even think about it, just wish all racism would go away, and everybody just get along as if we we’re all just human beings…and truly do want to judge people not based on skin color, but on the content of their character… Does that mean Dr. Martin Luther King was also a racist? If he were here today, and repeated those words about ‘content of character’ …would Eric Holder call Dr. King a coward?
I hear Eric Holder’s words and I get a chill up my spine. It doesn’t sound like freedom from racism to me. It sounds like reverse racism. It smacks of concepts like “reparations”…”affirmative action” (code for racial preferences)…and “get-even-with-‘em”… So, Mr. Holder, what can I infer from your words…but a tacit warning?
This, Mr. Attorney General…this is what you want to stir up? You should be ecstatic for the ultimate affirmative action as reflected on November 4th. White guilt to a very large extent enabled a charming but inexperienced young socialist to assume the reins of the most powerful nation in the world. And still we are cowards because we don’t talk about race enough?
Dude – are you off your meds??
This supports my assertion that no matter what whites come up with, no matter how many ‘adjustments’ or reparations, or consolations they offer, groveling grotesquely at the altar of Political Correctness for the race-baiters…it will never be enough. My severed head on a silver platter would not placate the sense of racial inequality, aggrieved victimization and indignant persecution Eric Holder and his ilk envision has been perpetrated against him and his constituency by myself and millions like me – people who just want to treat everyone fairly and get along.
Our former leader, President George W. Bush, in one of his more articulate moments, exhorted us to “…challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations.”
But you, Mr. Holder, and those who share your views, are the ones who perpetrate racism in America – by never shutting up about it! Yes, we Americans are proud of our ‘melting pot’ – we are proud of our national motto, E Pluribus Unum, “out of many, one”. We are proud of the idea of America, the most brilliant and good and moral proposition ever submitted to the human race: That all people can assemble in this one nation, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, creed…all men and women can come here and be free. We can pursue our dreams to the utmost and are free to enjoy the fruits of our efforts and talent and determination, unimpeded by coercion or kings. We’re not white Americans, or black Americans, or Hispanic Americans…
We’re Americans.
So… if Mr. Holder is calling me a racist and a coward…isn’t he’s calling Dr. Martin Luther King one, as well?
At least I’m in good company.





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Mr. Holder has a chip on his shoulder.
I don't know about "racist" or "coward" but seems like Phil Gramm was right on with that "whiner" thing.
I like how three posts down from this is a post about how people take offense too easily re: race issues.
Big Hollywood, heal thyself
I like how three posts down from this red-faced screed is a post about how people take offense too easily re: race issues.
Big Hollywood, heal thyself
I'm an african american and i despise what mr. holder said. It seems like the administration truly has a chip on their shoulder. Along with FLOTUS previous statements (downright mean country") and the whole Jeremiah Wright thing. I figured you couldn't listen to that kind of sermon for 20 years and not let it influence you.
Don't take it personally, if Hillary were in the White House you'd be labeled a Sexist Coward.
Somebody help me out here. How many countries, in the western world at least, have elected A BLACK GUY president? I fink i frew up a iddle in my mouf
I love you, Gary! Will you marry me?
Extremely well said Gary.
In Alabama people are so racist that whites and blacks are producing children in order to destroy each others race like the whites did to the Native Americans 100 years ago. I know it is because of hate because the fat girls are the ones hell bent on destroying the black line of men.
Dang it gary… I wanted to make some sort of snarky comment, but you just about covered everything I can possible think of.. a pox on you!
<" It sounds like reverse racism. It smacks of concepts like “reparations”…”affirmative action” (code for racial preferences)…and “get-even-with-‘em”… So, Mr. Holder, what can I infer from your words…but a tacit warning?"
I got the "warning" vibe from his rant too. Soften them up. Make them feel guilty. Call it something other than "reparations". Take their stuff.
I was hoping someone would bring this up. Thank you, and keep bringing the shizzle, my nizzle!
WOW! You said everything I was thinking but couldn't put into words. It's cowardly of Mr. Holder not to recognize the leaps and bounds we have made in the last 40 years. Give us some credit, Mr. Holder. Go stand on the grounds of the Arlington Cemetery and make that speech about cowards. I would like to see you do that!!
" It sounds like reverse racism. It smacks of concepts like “reparations”…”affirmative action” (code for racial preferences)…and “get-even-with-‘em”… So, Mr. Holder, what can I infer from your words…but a tacit warning?"
I got the "warning" vibe from his rant too. Soften them up. Make them feel guilty. Call it something other than "reparations". Take their stuff.
I was hoping someone would bring this up. Thank you, and keep bringing the shizzle, my nizzle!
Heal thyself blucas. That you would criticize someone who is arguing for a color blind society is really pretty sad.
PLEASE go back on Dennis Miller and discuss this post!!!
I concur, extremely well said, and you are not the only one who feels this way! did you know the state (California) gives preference to awarding contracts based on skin color? They even insist on it in many cases. How is that supposed to create "one nation"? I agree 110% with Dr. Martin Luther King saying he dreamed of a day when people “would be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”.
This administration is a huge gift to the Republican Party. He's so staggeringly incompetent it's hard to believe he won't be removed from office after the Republicans win in 2010. They have so many good reasons, not being born in the USA for starters.
This wasn't the kind of hope and change that people expected with the new administration. Eric Holder just proved to the world that he is a racist with that comment.
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I too work in Hollywood and had often been called a racist simply for pointing out facts, in this case about illegals. The shop I worked at was hiring illegals to do some lesser grunt work for cheap. Lunch came and all the caring liberals ran off to eat lunch, I and a few others were working into lunch, and the illegals were working too. It dawned on me that perhaps they had no money for food or a means to get to a restaurant. I asked them best I could if they had any food or could I buy them some. They replied that they did have some food, but did not know that they could stop working. I told them they could. Later, another guy in the shop came up and said "You know, I used to think you were a racist, until today when I saw you were the only person who cared whether those workers had any lunch. Obama and Holder are instigators, plain and simple– They keep all us fighting, straights and gays, men and women, blacks and whites… hoping we don't notice they are screwing us over.
I can't wait until we have racial quotas to hang out with particular types of people on the weekend like we do in the hiring process.
How dare that BLACK RACISTattorney general insinuate there's still a problem with racism in this country????!!1!!11!!!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!
I especially love how the color-blind conservatives obsess so much over Black History Month, non-existent "reparations", and constantly assume that black people are coming to take their power away. But, they're so color-blind…
I spent 24 years in the US Air Force and worked with and worked for many blacks. I have called many friend. I too think Black History Month is an an insult to blacks and I detest the term African-American. I too am color blind, but I am no coward. If I was a black, I would be insulted by our new AG. God help America.
But he's NOT arguing a colorblind society, he's overtly arguing for those who see legitimate racism to stay quiet. If he's so concerned about exclusionary things like Black History Month, where's the outrage over St. Patrick's Day or Oktoberfest.
Why is the running theme of this essay how black people are really out to get white people with anti-discrimmination laws or "reparations".
Pretending that racism doesn't exist is no way to actually stamp racism out.
Mr. Graham is supporting what Dr. MLK Jr. supported. Not the faux civil rights activist such as Sharpton, Jackson, and now it seems Mr. Holder.
How does it seem whenever someone from the right discusses race they are crucified and claimed as racist? Whatever happen to having and open and frank discussion. If Mr. Holder wants a discussion, then he needs to be able to listen to views he doesn't agree with.
What kind of a conservative are you? You should have been calling INS immediately to have all those guys rounded up. Turn in your GOP card right now.
Say what? You're comparing "nation" type celebrations to "race-based" celebrations?????
Good lord, Erasmus… I know you like to make these vague statements, but did you even think about what you're trying to compare here? By your argument, we should not be in favor of a "4th of July" holiday then, right?
The reparations issue.. has been off and on by the "leadership" of NAACP and other groups for ages.
Oh…some of my best friends are black, but they shouldn't talk ever ever about being black.
Open your eyes, puppet.
He was born in the US. You guys deliberately choose NOT to believe it. After all, truly color-blind peole wouldn't ever keep a whispering campaign going that the President is a filthy foreigner.
Don't you have some cut and pasting to do on your non-news site, Andrew? Tell me, when's the last time you actually wrote a story by yourself.
Gliberals:
Angry white male here. I think I can speak for many of us who are just plain worn out for taking the blame for problems we A) are not really responsible for, and B) cannot change anyway. So instead of continuing to attack us, why dont you all declare a second Black History Month, offer us another brilliant Black president, create another Oprah Winfrey, and while you're at it drive around the slums of Washington handing out your own money. seems like those are good places to start, eh?
Political Correctness is flat out unAmerican. One is GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. And even that, where is the forum in which one can debate openly or defend one's honor when accused of being a racist. PC and accusations of racism are a cudgel used to destroy non-leftists. Period. A GOP can not make the same claim of racism against liberals. Think: Michael Steele being pelted by Oreos by liberals. Think: Ted Kennedy publicly humiliating Clarence Thomas during the confirmation hearings. As long as the leftist media, leftist Academy and leftist Hollywood reinforce this order, it will always stay this way. President Obama affords courageous people like Gary Graham, Michael Steele and many others (gay, black, Hispanic conservatives, etc) to upend this manifestly corrupt and deeply unAmerican categorization and corralling process that does nothing but reinforce the worst in humanity so that a select few can attain political power and exploit this evil system.
You're none too good with the reading comprehension are you?
So you equate St. Patrick's Day or Oktoberfest with racism huh? Fascinating…
You mean by whining about Black History month and openly fretting about "reparations" (a code word designed to scare white people), he's being color-blind?
When IS the last time someone on the right discussed race that didn't include whining about perceived racial quotas or invoking prison/birth statistics.
Well said. Needs to be said more often. Awesome article.
He's supplied no evidence he was born here. That document he posted on his web site does not imply being born here, foreign-born people can get that document. And when his approval drops to very low levels as his incompetence becomes apparent, it will become politically possible to press him for proof. He would have already supplied it if he could. Ipso facto, he's not natural-born. But there's so much crooked crap that's gone on so far, it could be anything that they end up using. By the way, this isn't a whisper campaign– I used my real name, and you didn't.
Political Correctness is flat out unAmerican. One is GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. And even that, where is the forum in which one can debate openly or defend one's honor when accused of being a racist? It's certainly not the media or the modern college campus! If you do go there to defend yourself you will be either attacked or refused the dignity of speaking. PC and accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia act as a cudgel used by leftists to destroy non-leftists. Period.
A GOP can not make the same claim of racism against liberals. Think: Michael Steele being pelted by Oreos by liberals. Think: Ted Kennedy publicly humiliating Clarence Thomas during the confirmation hearings. As long as the leftist media, leftist Academy and leftist Hollywood reinforce this order, it will always stay this way. President Obama affords courageous people like Gary Graham, Michael Steele and many others (gay, black, Hispanic conservatives, etc) to upend this manifestly corrupt and deeply unAmerican categorization and corralling process that does nothing but reinforce the worst in humanity so that a select few can attain political power and exploit this evil system.
Wow Erasmus. Don't you feel special.
These totalitarian tactics are found in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, or wherever the left gains power. It's why the left sucks. And it's gonna take good traditional, old school liberals to wake up from a 40 year flirtation and alliance with the hard left in a compromise of their values to attain power in order to right the ship.
Yes, Andrew, how DARE you say ANYTHING!!! Why, it just burns me up when people like you say THINGS. And when it burns me up, I have to reach deeeeeeeeeep into my brain-thingy and pull out a truuuuuuuly cutting insult. And frankly, that hurts. So stop saying things. We live in a tolerant society and people like you are ruining it for meeee!!!!!!
TYPICAL liberals.
No reasoned responses, only off-hand quasi-intellectual snipes.
Can't you see your universe starting to roll back on itself? You have little in the way of logic to support your
feel-good, above-it-all TRIPE. You idiots flat-out s*ck.
"Think: Michael Steele being pelted by Oreos by liberals"
-Which never happened.
Do your best to prove it. You'll fail, much like at everything else.
People flippantly throw around the word racist because they don't want the opposing side in a debate to continue to contradict them. The quickest way to get someone to stop stating their own point of view is to scare them into shutting up? And how is that done. By trying to damage other peoples' perceptions of them. Because since all people want to be liked no one will want to risk being called a racist for the fear of social pariah. If people look up the word fascism in the dictionary then they will see that one part of the definition of fascism is trying to silence opposing points of view. So who is really acting like a fascist here. People like George W. Bush or the race-baiters who carelessly throw around such loaded words?
And if I report that Africa run by africans is a absolute disaster, GDP around $ 200 to $1000. corrupt, disease ridden,starving, violent what does that make me?
My point is that if the so-called hypenated American is verboten, then why do we have St. Patrick's Day? Why should the Irish celebrate their heritage at the exclusion of all others, I mean we're ALL Americans no?
Many black Americans would retort the race v. nation thing by pointing out that the Slavery system eradicated their connections to their home countries, and for many years, the vast majority of black Americans had no idea of their ancestral countries or homelands or whatnot. If you have no idea that your Senegalese or Congolese, etc, should you be denied the opportunity to celebrate your heritage like the Irish or Germans? I just find it interesting that of all the cultural heritage commemorations or celebrations, it always seems to be the Black themed events that are asked to consider going out of business in the name of racial harmony.
Look to fire fighters for a solution. They fight fire with fire. If they don't put the fire out, they are consumed by it.
Better to be THOUGHT an idiot than post as you do, Erasmus, and remove all doubt.
Our society engages in human sacrifice. The latest victim of this attempt was Sarah Palin. And what we need to do is to defang it. Fight a trench war when the next conservative says something that is deliberately misconstrued.
Say over and over again. NO. No, it was not racist. Stop being an idiot. NO. No it was not r….
Thats one reason I'm for Sarah in 2012. The Left tried to destroy her. If she can come back, then she takes away a lot of their power of personal destruction.
Maybe we need to do more than trench warfare on this issue. Maybe we need to ask ourselves "What would Ann do?"
Andrew,
If Gary doesn't accept your proposal, I will.
And a person shouting "Kill Him" about Obama at a Palin rally never happened either.
The head of the Secret Service office in Scranton, Pennsylvania even said there was NO proof that anyone uttered that phrase about Obama. So please, try and prove that for me.
Actually, I don't equate St. Patrick's Day with racism. I find the notion that we should eliminate Black History Month for being too exclusionary to be somewhat racist. Neither Black History Month or St. Patrick's Day bother me a whit.
Someone is jealous…
So the NAACP is using a code word designed to scare white people? You make no sense.
Also, the people whining about quotas and prison statistics are liberals. On the birth statistics, I seem recall that being a common topic of both sides. SOoo, you're wrong as usual. What's next?
What a bold riposte to an argument I'm not making!
He did provide proof, you simply chose not to believe it.
He was born in Hawaii, therefore natural-born. End of story.
Grow up
Proving natural-born status (a CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT) has nothing to do with race, anonymous bomb-throwing liberal.
Of course you do, because you find all things said by conservatives about minorities to be racist. So why should I take anything you say seriously?
Thanks Gary. I agree with you %100.
As far as I am concerned discrimination is an excuse for those who feel they deserve respect they haven't earned. They feel they deserve, no insist they be given the benefit of the doubt. These people wear their race, religion or sexual preference on their sleeves and demand and expect that people look past it. They take pride in those differences and allow themselves to be ruled or defined by them all the while using them as a crutch for their own failures. If you truly care what people think of you then don't pretend you don't care. Stop throwing your differences in our face and you won't find yourselves being ostracized. Stop insisting that society like you because of your differences and ask us to accept you despite your differences.
Ask us (society) nicely, as though our opinion matters and most will gladly oblige, but the moment you dare to insist or order us to do something you will find we are not so easily moved.
As liberals lately seem to like to say "You lost the election. Get over it." The same applies here. You're (insert color here). Get over it.
Andrew is too busy pretending that he's a journalist, although he's just a cut and paste hack.
Maybe the Democrats could show conservative solidarity by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
"Does that mean Dr. Martin Luther King was also a racist?"
Well, he was a Republican, so by liberal standards he must have been a racist.
Gary, Love your articles. Just wanted to tell you to keep it up!! Regards, Fellow coward..
Mr. Graham – bravo! I also am insulted and infuriated at having a racist accuse me of racism because of my race while he escapes punishment for his racism because of his!
You know, the biggest irony of Holder saying he wants racism to end is that in reality he'd be ruined if that happened. Holder NEEDS racism. Without it, he'd lose everything. Starting with his affirmative action education and ending with this plum assignment, everything Holder has gotten has been given to him on the basis of his race. He sure hasn't earned it for being smart – as his assinine statement just now clearly proves. (For God's sake, this jerk isn't even street smart.) You know, there's a saying – 'be careful what you ask God for, you might get it'. Well, I think Holder should get what he's demanding – an honest assessment of racism in this country. Should that ever happen, boy, would HE get it, in more ways than one.
It DID happen (an Oreo rolled to his feet, anyway, maybe he wasn't PELTED with them, per se), it was done by Townsend supporters, and YOU are a dishonest person.
But you must equate the two Erasmus.. otherwise you wouldn't have compared the two.
I love Gary's writing and his POV so my comment is not directly directed at him, but is Big Hollywood really just going to become a never ending series of perceived slights. Some dumb liberal said this, there's only 20 percent as many Obama jokes as I want on TV, and so on and so on. A lot of the site is not that, so I'll stick with it forever…it's awesome. But we're conservatives…we have a point of view, let's start articulating it. I think it was clear if the Democrats would've not attacked Bush so stridently and made a case for their view (now I know they don't have one) they would've beat Bush in 2004. Let's not make that mistake, let's push forward with what we believe in as if liberals don't exist. Let's stop letting then get our goat!!!
Gary….how true your words are!! Thank you! I think I love you….LOL!
Fabulous article, Gary. Thank you so much!
I'm OFFENDED! I want to know what race of people does the so-called first Black Attorney General mingles with during HIS weekends off? Or is he, himself, is just about as hypocritical as the rest of the liberal left! A man in his position, should NOT make any comments or statements regarding race relations, when it was affirmative action and the lack of racism that got him in that position in the first place! As a Black American and a defender of the constitution, the office of the Attorney General has more pressing issues than making comments about race. For example, how his office are going to deal with the first so-called Black President who signed an Executive Order to try murderers from Al Qaida on US soil? Mr. Holder's office should be more concentrating on that issue than about race issues. One more note Mr. Holder about race in America. What political party wanted to keep slavery during the Civil War, conducted human atrocities against Blacks during Reconstruction in the South, passed Jim Crow Laws, denied racial riots ever existed during the 1910s & 20's, fought against the civil rights acts of the 1960's and sided with the Progressive Labor Party on Busing during the 1970's and 80's? Sound familiar, liberals? Know your history first, before you speak of it.
Erasmus…..blah, blah, blah, blah……if you could hear yourself talk you would probably not say anything!!!
Since when does objecting to something, equate to obsessing over it? Maybe G Graham is objecting to the "wrong thing?"
Fools, And while you're trying to find your 'nads, why don't you buy my terrific NY TIMES bestselling book (co-authored with Mark Ebner), Hollywood, Interrupted. It came out five years ago next week!
It is impossible for a White person to honestly discuss race and not be called a racist. That's why most of us simply don't .
We can't mention gangsta culture, or how hip-hop denigrates women, or how the fascination with the pimp culture destroys relationships, or how the majority of black children are born to unwed mothers. Or the devaluing of education, or why the predominant black culture is filled with hate for Condoleeza Rice, or any other conservative black person. Nope -just can't talk about it.
Everything that Bill Cosby talks about is out of bounds for a white man. And just so we are clear here, there is no secret code to making better and stronger families. It is all well known. If we talk about it we'd get fired or dragged up before a Maoist re-orientation center and vilified. We need our jobs to feed our families and oh yeah – to take care of our children, the ones in my house, that live with me and their mother. Oops – must be sounding racist again….
Kudos Agent Orange. It's far too easy for the limousine liberals (and yes I include young college educated kids in that boat) as saying they're for the illegal/black/muslim, etc. people yet walk/run from them whenever in close proximity to said people. Actions are what I judge people by. Talk is cheap.
And some of my best friends are white, but they know that if they ever talk about being white, they'll immediately be accused of being racists.
Again, you're saying Irish shouldn't have a "national day of celebration"? (you do realize what that day actually is right?)
Again, by your own argument, we should get rid of the 4th of July.
Many black Americans would retort the race v. nation thing by pointing out that the Slavery system eradicated their connections to their home countries,
You just keep digging yourself in deeper, don't you Eras?
They were born in the US, they live in the US… so again, WHAT connections? I was born in the US, live in the US.. I have quite a few nationalities in my family tree… so I should be demanding this country celebrate what… Important Netherlands Figures Month, right? I mean that's part of my heritage.
Sorry, Gerard.. but that's one of those "old wives tales".. even most conservatives of sound-thinking don't buy into that one.
I'm pretty sure St. Patrick's Day and Oktoberfest aren't propaganda initiatives supported by our Federal Government. Kind of an apples/oranges comparison. Those two holidays were imported from their native countries by immigrant people groups. Nobody's trying to force "St. Patrick's Day" down your throat, or make you feel guilty if you don't feel like participating in it.
Come to think of it, though, they used to pinch you if you didn't wear green. Damn Irish.
"Oktoberfest", on the other hand, is a holiday dedicated to swilling large quantities of beer and ogling women in low-cut blouses. If we're going to federalize anything, I'd vote for that one…
Again, you're saying Irish shouldn't have a "national day of celebration"? (you do realize what that day actually is right?)
Again, by your own argument, we should get rid of the 4th of July.
Many black Americans would retort the race v. nation thing by pointing out that the Slavery system eradicated their connections to their home countries,
You just keep digging yourself in deeper, don't you Eras?
They were born in the US, they live in the US… so again, WHAT connections? I was born outside the US, live in the US.. so I should be demanding this country celebrate what… Important Icelandic Figures Month, right?
I hope to God that comment was intended as satire. It didn't really come out all that well, though…
Let me see…you want to honestly discuss race by invoking negative stereotypes about "gangsta culture" or "pimp culture"?
Well. Two can play this game. When will white people tackle the problem of shirtless meth-heads arrested every week on Cops. Or overweight white lesbian strippers who are sleeping with their stepsons on Jerry Springer? Or the fact that the majority of "welfare" dollars actually is distributed to rural white people in Southern states? Or how the lowest percentage of college educated people are in the rural white South (talk about devaluing education). Or that every high school shooter and virtually every major serial killer has been white?
I mean, if you want to honestly discuss race by employing only negative stereotypes, see where this will lead?
No change, No Hope, No-Bama 2012.
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period." And here you see is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and special interests groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension and welfare slavery.
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and special interests groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension and welfare slavery.
I have discussed race many times without invoking racial quotas or prison/birth statistics and I am on the right. My kids play with kids of different races all the time and there are never discussions associated with racial quotas or prison/birth statistics. Dude, get a grip!
Looking at all the posts trying to distract from Gary's article or attack Gary personally, clearly written in fear of Gary's words ("it burns, it burns"), it's clear that Gary has truly written a masterpiece here!!
Sincerely, thank you Gary!
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He is signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and special interests groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension and welfare slavery.
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He was signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and special interests groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension and welfare slavery.
So, the way to rebuild your party and lead the country is to pretend that those who disagree with you don't exist? Isn't that the mentality that directly caused your party to lose Congress and lose the popular vote in the Presidential election 16 out of the last 20 years?
"He would have already supplied it if he could. Ipso facto, he's not natural-born."
That is faulty logic. He well may be simply so arrogant that he feels he doesn't need to provide proof beyond his own spoken word.
This whole birth certificate thing is really hurting the conservative opposition and making us all look like nutbag conspiracy theorists. Let it go.
Man, you guys do more projecting than a movie theater
It feels great to be in Obama's post-racial America doesn't it!
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He was signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and special interests groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension , exploitation, and welfare slavery.
I 'm really scared about were this whole thing is going.!
As a working member of the press I've seen a lot of anger and violence. But in spite of that I believed this country had turned that page in history and most racism was in the past. I realize that the Jesse Jackson's, Al Sharpton's
and David Duke's are still out there . this is definitely a different America than the one I grew up in.
But this Eric Holder/Obama thing is totally is dangerous
.I truly believe they ( Obama) want to ignite a new level of racial hatred with the very purpose of dividing this country.
They want to use this as an excuse for all kinds of actions. Possibly to restrict our freedom of speech, to eliminate
conservative talk radio, to ban guns, and eventually impose martial law if things get bad enough.
I don't believe that Obama sat in that church for twenty years "by accident". And his violent friends were not
mere acquaintances.
Are you worried where this is going?
Thank you Gary Graham for not being a coward!
Eric Holder lawfirm is representing 17 terrorists at Gitmo
You know the ones that have murdered thousands of people in office buildings, shops, just minding their own business.
obama has stopped their trials!
You must not have any black friends. Sitting around discussing skin color is not a high priority for them– believe it or not.
Grow up? Sorry, all he was saying was that we've forced integration enough in the workforce but people still hang out with their own kind on weekends. Sorry man, its hard for me to find a lot of black people out there when I'm surfing or hiking. Any black people want to go surfing with me in Boston? If so, I'm not trying to avoid you, we just all look black in our wetsuits.
Clearly and beautifully put. Thank you!
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He was signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and color coded special interest groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension , exploitation, and welfare slavery.
MLK was a concervative repulican.
Oh please, cowards… if you mention those things you mention and some media outlet picks up on it.. you're not declared racist, you're declared "Enlightened!", you mention the things John brings up,a and you're "RACIST!"
I think the difference is that "shirtless meth-heads" and "overweight white lesbian strippers" are not being held up as role models and artistic visionaries. We all kind of get that these negative stereotypes are scraped of off the bottom of our gene pool. Even though they are being repackaged for entertainment by the Fox Network…
I don't believe Mr.Holder really wants us to talk about race. I don't think he wants everyone to know the crime statistics broken down by race. Oh no, not allowed to talk the truth about, say, rape statistics. According to FBI statistics, for every one white man that rapes a black woman, there are 3,600 black men raping white women. Lets talk about that vicious racist truth, Mr. Holder. Or how about a 13% minority committing 65% of all the violent crime in this country, Mr. Holder? You liberal lying racist POS and all your friends have kept the race from the statistics and the news, because the amount of black on white crime in this country is a mini-war, and if the truth were known, many would be killed. So be careful about wanting to talk about race, Mr. RACIST Holder, you just might get what you asked for, and not like the resulting truth.
Oh please, cowards… if you mention those things you mention and some media outlet picks up on it.. you're not declared racist, you're declared "Enlightened!", you mention the things John brings up,a and you're "RACIST!"
'Again, it seem that you're only allowed to pick on a certain stereotype and be allowed to get away with it with NO repercussions
" I don’t compartmentalize my friends based on their skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, political leanings or sexual preference. We’re all just people, period."
And here you see, is the raison d 'etre for the Democrat party. They have power ONLY by putting people in categories based on aesthetics and sexual proclivities and then pandering to their liberal manufactured victim hood. Let's face it, the REASON that President Teleprompter was elected was because of skin color. Nothing more. He is a man with no past, a man with no developed ideas, a man of no accomplishments other than self aggrandizement. He was signed, packaged, and delivered based on his skin color. I heard so many people who didn't agree with him say "well at least we can get past this whole idea of racism now." And I always told them that this was Naive. The liberals are incapable of getting past race, the Democrat party can not and WILL NOT ever drop the issue of racism. After all why would they? Why would they stop doing something that gives them power? They will continue to peddle and pander to race, they will continue to paint Republicans as racists, and people will continue to base their decisions on that criteria. Conservatives/Republicans don't enter race into their decisions with the exception of when they must and that is only because of the world that liberals have created, where in order to fit in one has to appear sensitive to melanin content. What most Americans fail to see is that "racism" is a self fulfilling prophecy. As long as we keep talking about it, as long as we keep feeling guilty about it, as long as we keep making government policy based on it it WILL NEVER go away. Racism exists, but it is exists in the minds and policies of Liberals. It exists not in the Lynchings of the past, but in the race based government policies and color coded special interest groups of today. It is cloaked in the trappings of "diversity" and "tolerance" while its reality is ego stripping condescension , exploitation, and welfare slavery.
PS- Hi Andrew! You will know me some day, until that time, keep up the great work.
Why would they want to talk about that when there are so many other good things to talk about? My friends from Venezuela and Colombia never want to talk about being Hispanic. I never have a desire to talk about being white. My friends who are black never seem to want to talk about being black and if they did, I certainly would not stop them. There are just some many other things to talk about that the color of our skin just never seems to come up.
"Or the fact that the majority of "welfare" dollars actually is distributed to rural white people in Southern states?"
As a person who lives in a rural southern state and is white, I was just curious if you had an actual stat to back that up, or if you were just shooting your mouth off…
Nice, I need a bumpersticker that says that.
Gary, I wouldn't call you a racist OR a coward. I'm with you, I prefer to deal with people as people, not as 'african americans' or 'protestants' or 'atheists'. Why can't people just be PEOPLE?
I too don't see the point of appointing a month to celebrate a certain ethnicity's history. If we were TRULY colorblind, we would just celebrate the nation's history, no matter what the race or ethnicity.
I hadn't thought of it before, but taking a month to celebrate a group of people is the same as patting them on the head and saying "you're not as GOOD and as ACCOMPLISHED as we are, so we'll celebrate those of you who did GOOD and accomplished much".
It IS ridiculous!
Same with their shutdown of any criticism of our new president. Don't like what he's doing? Obviously we're racist. PFFFT!
Well for one thing, everyone who is not Irish becomes Irish for a day and are welcomed to join in the festivities. I am Irish and French. So you don't have to be Irish to celebrate the day. Martin Luther King was looking for the day where your race was irrelevant to how you were treated, the accomplishments done, the friends you have, etc. We should celebrate peoples accomplishments without having to qualify it with their race, gender, religion, etc. What the new Attorney General said was an insult to everyone.
Racism is making a judgement based on race. Holder is saying we need to consider race. That is racism.
We need to reject ism's because they hinder and limit humanity.
I'm so glad you bring up Clarence Thomas. I really think his story is one that we don't hear enough. He is someone who is such a great role model for people. I've studied his life story for a couple of years and the more I look into it, the more impressed I am with him. Keep up the good work, Andrew. See you on facebook. =)
Saved by Prop 8 again, Gary.
What a Capitalist. Always selling.
notice how the insulting annonymous commenter doesn't actually have a comeback? I love liberals, so entertaining… =)
Andrew said:"I love you, Gary! Will you marry me?"
Saved by Prop 8 again, Gary.
Gary damn good article brother keep on punching.
If I wasn't already married I'd throw my hat in the ring…
Erasmus. Racism is a cottage industry in America. Black History Month is when our children learn in second grade that Guion Bluford was the first African American in space. By the time they study the space program in 9th grade American History they are surprised to find out that white people have also been in space. Believe it or not, there is no required curriculum for St. Patrick's Day or Oktoberfest.
Holder may consider me a racist coward, but I know I'm not allowed to have the same discussion of race relations in public that I can have with black people in private.
I hate to tell anyone this, but they did pass the reparations bill, under the guise of the Stimuli. Most of us will never see a dime, we'll judst get stuck with the check. And if you complain you're just a jerkwad racist. Who made up these new rules and when can I see him?
I hate to tell anyone this, but they did pass the reparations bill, under the guise of the Stimuli. Most of us will never see a dime, we'll just get stuck with the check. And if you complain, you're just a jerkwad racist. Who made up these new rules and when can I see him?
No kiddin, right?
I'd like to tell all the race baiters to go out and get a real job. Blue collar. You want to hear dialogue on race?
There's dialogue alright. It's open and raw.
Meanwhile we're getting it done. As a team.
And as a musician I'm especially insulted. Everything we rock based musicians do is stolen from African -Americans. We admit it readily.
Holder just placed himself in the company of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright (wow, all men of the cloth). Shame it is soiled linen.
I am not anti black people, but there seems to be an awful lot of black people who are anti me. I have a real problem with that, and I will defend myself from any criticism I feel is unjust. That being said; Mr Holder, go pound sand sir!
I'm sure someone brought this up, but why does Mr. Holder raise the issue as just a black vs. white thing?
What about the Asians? The Hispanics? The Native Americans? Don't they count at all?
For that matter, I'm a member of a religious minority that been taking a beating lately…
Does that mean I should expect…
Mormon History Month?
The National Association for the Advancement of Mormon People?
A mandate that there has to be at least one Mormon interviewed for every coaching vacancy in the National Football League?
Editorials crying out why there aren't more Mormons that are head coaches in Division 1 college football?
More openly Mormon characters on sitcoms and dramatic series on TV? (No, Big Love doesn't count, so there…)
A new cable Channel, Mormon Entertainment Television (all MoTab, all the time!)
(I know…silly, isn't it?)
Can't we all just be Americans instead?
correct
Obama only got as far as he did due to skin color too. Well, no- being a Socialist in Chicago counted for more, maybe.
Intelligent, look who sold their own kind into slavery!
There wer people worried about all this from the start, but the mainstream press chose not to ask tough questions of anyone other than McCain and Palin.
Exactly, another empty suit like the "Kingfish" The only "GOD" they believe in is the worship of lies, deceit, and corruption.
Well said Gary, I'm right with you. Sage words, indeed. Thanks.
Political Correctness = Death
While u are providing those stats, tell us the race of the majority of criminals in prisons, can u add that for us Loudmouth?
If you were liberal, that wouldn't matter! (Just kidding my liberal friends… I'm sure you would never promote the idea of multiple spouses. Right Mr. Hanks?)
Excellent, the truth hurts!
Didn't Harrison Ford hunt those in Blade Runner?
I would check my spelling of the thing on his shoulder
What Gary said! I agree. Why? I have a quote for Mr. Holder from a guy named Mr White. Hey Eric next time you have a thought, let it go.
Really great piece!!
Mr. Graham, this is an extremely well-written piece. Holder and the Obama posse are intent on moving onto Reparation talk once their Socialist Agenda policies are in place. This would be a joke if the reality weren't so serious.
I agree with your contention that the real racists in America are the grievance-mongers in the Democrat Party.
Reading through the posts here, it strikes me that Democrat Apologists like fool, Erasmus, and tshillue simply so not want to understand (much less acknowledge) what opposing thinkers have to say. Too bad. For them.
America is STILL the Land of the Free, and those of us who oppose Obama's Socialist/Race-Baiting cronies still have the right to say so. Whether or not the grievance-monger apologists can handle it, or not.
HOLDER IS A COWARD.
Fools,
I may be mistaken but I believe one writes a book, a short story, an article or a report.
I believe that traditionally speaking stories are recited or told.
nfm
Ah, damn. I "thumbed up" on this one and then realized you weren't calling Holder the whiner. Would've been a better point to make if you were. ;0)
I wouldn't mind Black History if it weren't so tied up in building resentment among Americans of African Descent (AADs*). It does little to encourage young AADs to participate in our prosperity through education, initiative and individual effort. Too often it gives them the message that they need not apply, because the system is rigged against them. Add that to AAD demagogues like Jeremiah Wright, and you get as much division and racial hatred as we've ever had. That's not progress.
I like reading stories about Dr. King, G. W. Carver, and other AADs who are American success stories. I don't think it hurts anything to acknowledge the role AADs have had in our greater history.
As for being cowards, I guess I'm guilty. I grew up during an era of Black Power and people using terms like "whitie" and "honky" and I always worried about trying to get to know brown-skinned people without being greeted with resentment for my own skin color. Thus there is an invisible barrier that neither of us knows how to break down.
I hope that my children's generation are having better luck in this regard, but statement like Mr. Holder's don't help at all. The vast majority of whites never had any hatred for or mistreated dark skinned people, and they are put off by badgering and constant accusations of racism. A lot of AADs are racists themselves. If America were as cowardly and bigoted as Holder says, how is it that he is now the Attorney General in the administration of Barack Obama.
Here's a suggestion. Redefine Affirmative Action so that it means helping "minority" students to achieve as much as others, without quotas and lowered standards. Who can imagine a racial quota system
*I use that term, because most Americans with African ancestry also have Caucasian ancestry. President Obama, after all is as much white as he is black. Most AADs are viewed as "coloured" when they go to Africa. We need some term that deemphasizes blackness and emphasizes Americanness.
Ah, Gary! I love you more and more with every post. If I weren't married…yada,yada,…anyway. ;0) So glad you again broke your once-a-week rule to slam this one home. Bravo, m'boy!
What i think he means by cowardly (tongue in cheek), is that The Sharptons, and Jacksons, and all the other race baiters are too cowardly to admit who the real, current, violently acting out racists really are. They refuse to admit that "white-guilt" beat the racism out of most of us, and that a large majority of us remember hearing horrific stories of real, true white on black racism, and being sincerely affected, and profoundly sorry about those injustices. So in our daily lives, we dont hold the same attitudes some of our ancestors did. But now, cross the color line, and since the hatred has been stoked for the last four hundred years toward us, WE are the true targets of your everyday street racism. What these pople are calling Racism, is incorrectly diagnosed FEAR..because we have now learned to be afraid of the Righteous anger of their community. They want you to believe that our fear of walking around large urban black neighborhoods is racism, and not legitimate fear. They want you to believe that we cant tell the difference between an upstanding law abiding, peaceful black person (which NO one fears or hates) and a criminal (and the utter terror that the latter generates), and they will not LET us discuss the differences, because of the necessity of using the adjective 'black'. THAT'S what people are afraid of admitting or copping to publically. The sorrow we feel toward those who lived the tragedy of Old South racism isnt enough..WE MUST BE PUNISHED. So in a sense that yes, because it is impossible to describein honest terms what has really happened to the racial situation for fear of incorrectly being branded racists, we have been turned into cowards, too.
If you were liberal, that wouldn't matter! (Just kidding my liberal friends… I'm sure liberals would never promote the idea of multiple spouses. Right Mr. Hanks?)
The NAACP awards were, imo, an embarrassment to America as a nation and to black people. when a re they going to get it that there is no unity in segregated awards or culture terminology?
Gary,
Although I'm no relation to Hardball Matthews, I felt a chill run up my leg (actually my spine) when I read the following words: "Yes, we Americans are proud of our ‘melting pot’ – we are proud of our national motto, E Pluribus Unum, “out of many, one”. We are proud of the idea of America, the most brilliant and good and moral proposition ever submitted to the human race: That all people can assemble in this one nation, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, creed…all men and women can come here and be free. We can pursue our dreams to the utmost and are free to enjoy the fruits of our efforts and talent and determination, unimpeded by coercion or kings. We’re not white Americans, or black Americans, or Hispanic Americans…We’re Americans."
That's exactly what the kind of statement I want to hear an American political leader make. So I say to the race baiter hookers (Sharpton, et al)…the days when people wanted to buy a little of the expiatory guilt stuff you're selling are officially over. So get a new life.
Also, Gary, you're no coward. Thanks for clearly and forcefully articulating what many of us understand to be true. And if you decide to run for President some day, I'll help organize your support in the South…we'll be the Graham Crackers!
I do have to agree with Mr. Holder about us being a nation of cowards, although I believe it's for a different reason. For too long, too many of us have been cowards for not standing up to the race bullies who cry "racist" at any viewpoint that doesn't follow liberal PC standards.
Thank you Gary for not being a coward. AG Holder has encouraged me to stand up for my viewpoints from now on. I won't be intimated by the "R" word anymore, since I know in my heart that it's not true. The only time I think about someone's race is when a race shill starts his spiel. Normally I do as I was taught, judge people by their actions, not by their pigment.
No proof of this has been supplied, as you well know. Who are you trying to fool, yourself?
You think drinking half a cup of Koolaid is the answer. If he hasn't proved it, he hasn't. It hurts nobody to go after the truth. Except the bad guys.
Really? You've seen reliable evidence he was born here? Wait, I know you haven't. Why do people have so much trouble believing the situation is as corrupt and indefensible as it is? He has supplied NO PROOF. If he supplies it, fine. What is it with you grovellers?
Old Tom your obviously a racist for pointing out the glaringly obvious difference between these types of stereotypes. One is to emulated and the other avoided at all costs. One of my black friends told me I would never understand black culture, how the black community in his opinion loved people like Marion Barry from DC. He thought it was great that he was re-elected in spite of being addicted to meth and prostitutes. I had to agree with him, I'd never understand the black culture then.
Old Tom your obviously a racist for pointing out the glaringly obvious difference between these types of stereotypes. One is to be emulated and the other avoided at all costs. One of my black friends told me I would never understand black culture. How in the black community, in his opinion, they loved people like Marion Barry from DC. He thought it was great that he was re-elected in spite of being addicted to meth and prostitutes. I had to agree with him, I'd never understand the black culture then.
Black people, stop being victims. Being a victim paralyzes you. Being a victim festers hatred. Being a victim festers violence. Your culture has a definite problem. Your problems have nothing and yet everything to do with the color of your skin. You are more aware of the color of your skin than I or anyone else I know is.
I've had lots of hurt in my life too. I'm not a victim. I don't have time for it, I have too much to do.
Of course racism exists, however, it's not as nice and neat as mean white people hating the poor black people.
1. Racism works in every direction imaginable, did no one see the movie Crash, tell me that wasn't far off from real life.
2. Racism will never go away because there will always be some small part of any give race that feels they are better than all other races. Hello… just watch a sporting event where a fight breaks out among athletes or fans a like over some bad call. They've got fences up to keep soccer fans from killing each other in Europe.
I say in the true form of equality give every race a month. Hell I'm Irish and German, I'd love to see St. Patrick's DAY (just one day mind you) last all month. Oktoberfest lasting all month would be awesome as well.
On a related note, there's a ton of money in the porkulus bill for "Latino cultural centers". =x
Well said Jim, you homophobic, racist j/k. Come on it was all the Mormons fault that Prop 8 passed…. Even though they were among the smallest percentage of all the groups that voted for it. No freedom of religion for you, your certainly not allowed to have your own set of beliefs… Oh and I forgot unpatriotic, thanks for that one Hanks.
Old Tom you're obviously a racist for pointing out the glaringly obvious difference between these types of stereotypes. One is to be emulated and the other avoided at all costs. One of my black friends told me I would never understand black culture. How in the black community, in his opinion, they loved people like Marion Barry from DC. He thought it was great that he was re-elected in spite of being addicted to meth and prostitutes. I had to agree with him, I'd never understand the black culture then.
Well said Jim, you homophobic, racist j/k. Come on it was all the Mormons fault that Prop 8 passed…. Even though they were among the smallest percentage of all the groups that voted for it. No freedom of religion for you, you're certainly not allowed to have your own set of beliefs… Oh and I forgot unpatriotic, thanks for that one Hanks.
Reparations are "non-existent" because the racist Left failed to get away with it, mercifully. That does not alter the racist nature of the very idea, or the fact that the Left would try again if they saw the possibility.
We should all be very careful here and especially Gary with his silly notion of being able to have an opinion about racism. As everyone knows racism is merely a black and white issue. Only white people can be racists….. Some one better point out to him that he is white and as such can't speak out about being called a coward and a racist.
The truth of the matter is the US has the most watered down version of racism on the planet, it wont ever go away until black people demand people like Sharpton, Rev. Jackson and unfortunatley now the Attorney General of the US, quit trying to keep racism alive and well in America. I think Jews and Gentiles are cowards, because they wont sit down and talk about how they killed our lord….I wonder if Obama did one of those please STFU faces when he read Holders comments.
The end to the so called race debate is simple. Return to a Biblical understanding that we are all of one blood, one race.
"And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation" Acts 17:26
I reject the notion of race. We are all of ONE BLOOD. We are all human. If that makes you think that I'm racist, fine, I'll tell the blacks in my family and we can laugh about it. It would certainly make my ancestors, which include Africans, Native Americans, Germans, Irish, and English, laugh. I accept MLK's notion that we should be judged by the content of our character, which is determined by our actions, thoughts, and beliefs.
Thanks for the eloquent rebuttal. I’m almost afraid to say anything because I fear I would have the Attorney General silence me and haul me off to some gulag. I fear he is trying to be divisive and provoking decent people to be insulted. I’m not gonna play into that, I see the writing on the wall. It’s hard enough trying to teach my kids to have guilt and shame.
You want the real irony to that? What's the common cultural link between ghetto culture and the ones you list in your post? Ironically, it's the old Southern culture from plantation times. The white population that immigrated to the deep south came from mostly the same place – the English/Scotch border, and they had those problems even then. Many of today's urban blacks have roots in the slave population transplanted to … the Deep South where they picked up the cultural tendencies of their masters. What we call urabn black culture today is really the culture of the old Deep South and was always a culture of losers even before it came to America and infected blacks.
Here comes Waco II
Yes, that must be it. Now go away.
That's genius!
If Black History Month was called White Democrat Power Grab Month. What would you think? It's marketing so brilliant that African Americans do it for free and unaware they are still being used by the party of slavery.
[...] Good read Big Hollywood
When, oh when will it ever be ENOUGH!!!
The blood shed by BRAVE young soldiers in the Civil War should have been enough.
Emancipation should have been enough.
The Civil Rights Movement should have been enough.
Blacks elected to all sorts of offices should have been enough.
Blacks equal in the workplace should have been enough.
Obama elected to the highest position of power in the World should be enough.
Mr. Holder himself appointed as the first black attorney general should be enough.
What on earth do these people want and when can the white man ever do enough? It will NEVER be enough because these people cannot accept reality and forgive. They choose to bear a grudge and their own anger and hate will ultimately usurp the color-blindness they say they desire.
There comes a time (now) when the screeching about race turns on itself and becomes a parody of itself. It no longer resonates and calling the people of this great land COWARDS only fuels and fans any remaining racist embers left burning.
Note: Just because someone is annoyed or upset by an offensive comment (i.e. nation of cowards), that doesn't make them obsessive. I don't obsess over Black History Month. I'm a little annoyed by the Obama shrines in my school hallways, yes, and I feel that it does the black community a significant disservice to single out any one month as the time to recognize the accomplishments of their "people." I don't think that anyone's skin color is a legitimate qualifier for being deemed succesful.
Like someone said earlier, it's like saying, "Hey, he's succesful, and black to boot!" As if being both black and succesful is some rare occurrence, worthy of special attention and praise.
Have you read anything by Shelby Steele? Because his "On Being Black and Middle Class" addresses race quite nicely. Many of his points are invoked in Ann Coulter's "Guilty."
There are no "perceived" racial quotas. What are you even babbling about?
Nice, Gary. Yeah, I thought Obama, getting more white votes than any candidate in history, was supposed to be the "post-racial" president and that we could all finally move on.org. I guess not. Looks like the same old grievance politics. Conservatives want to be colorblind like MLK wanted, but liberals just can't stop commenting on the amount of melanin in peoples' skin.
Frankly, I think one has to be brave to stand up to this "indescribably tedious obsession with melanin" (hattip: George Will), not cowardly. Say Obama would have never have won with his empty resume if he was white and you'll need to be very brave indeed!
Anyway, glad to hear that Ambassador Savol is a conservative; that seems appropriate (too bad Spock is such a lib, the character and Nimoy, ha ha). I loved and miss Enterprise. Best to you and your family. Looks like lots of snow up there in the hills.
Oh burn.
Sir, you cannot possibly understand the 'conservative experience' so don't make assumptions about my people.
Dude, why do you care so much. He is entitled to his opinion (now I sound like a liberal hack). I mean, why do you hate him so much? Is it something he said? Did he eat your children? Or do you just not like the fact that he tells it like it is?
Like this whole Fairness Doctrine thing. The only logical explaination anyone would have for trying to censor someone else is that they don't want other people to hear it. Think China: government censorship, to an extreme degree. Because if the people really knew what was going on, the system would fail.
So tell me, dear commie friend, what is your beef?
Oh, but haven't you heard? The Republican Party is no longer the "Party of Lincoln." No, no. Obama changed that. And thank God, really. Now that Larry Byrd is a registered Republican, we can all sleep peacefully, knowing that the racists are finally in the right party.
Jeez.
I think it's a generally accepted fact that you can criticize a white person, but you can't criticize a black person.
Case in point: on my cheerleading squad, this one black girl has the biggest attitude I've ever seen. She's rich and snotty and feels entitled to rub that in everyone's face. Yet, you can't call her out on it without also being deemed racist. Like offending her is automatically an insult to the entire African-American community. Meanwhile, she's verbally destroying people's lives.
I know plenty of white girls, too, with just as much in the way of money and attitude problems, but at least you can tell someone your honest opinion about them without being deemed racist.
More power to you, Gary.
So…let me get this straight. If I’m a racist coward because I don’t want to talk about race all the time, don’t want to even think about it, just wish all racism would go away, and everybody just get along as if we we’re all just human beings…and truly do want to judge people not based on skin color, but on the content of their character… Does that mean Dr. Martin Luther King was also a racist? If he were here today, and repeated those words about ‘content of character’ …would Eric Holder call Dr. King a coward?"____Amen, Gary! Beautifully written. Dr. King was very clear that character is what matters. The AG is a racist fool, I'm sad to say.
I just want to know when Arab American month is in America so my kids can go to the White House and play with Michelle Obama. Would apprecite knowing which month. Or Chinese American if that comes first. Thank you.
Obviously, reading comprehension ain't one of your strong points.
Glad to see I was not the only one greatly offended by the nations top cop calling us cowards for not joining in the lefts national soap opera.
Hitler did the same for many Europeans. I have my number but no idea of my ancestry or homeland.
Yeah, like Americans!
Erasmus, your comments about the author and his positions concerning race are the reason most people do not want to discuss race; unless we espouse the views you do we are racist. Thereby ending any legitimate debate about the issue that you and Mr. Holder believe we need to discuss openly. Thanks for making our point for us. By "us" I am referring to the millions of Americans who prefer to let our actions speak for us; treating everyone equally instead of just paying lip service to the idea.
What a surprise;just 1 more dufusy ass-clown appointed to our govt. by Obama.I just didnt think there were any more out there.If this jagoff Holder doesnt like cowards,whyd he vote for Obama who has thown almost every controversial person he knows (including his sweet ol granma)under a bus just to achieve the presidency.Hes not brave enough to go after Bin Laden or any terrorists,hes afraid to say Irans a death threat,hes even scared to prosecute Bush,like Stephanopolous & so many lefties want him to.The left is fascinatingly funny when they project their own inadequacies on others:racism,cowardice,war-mongering,stupidity,election theft,etc.Why do they hate these things when its obvious they invented them all.
Clarence Thomas used to come to my parties, but he doesn't like me anymore since I asked him how he could decide Bush v Gore while his wife was a member of the Bush transition team. He told me something about if I was smart enough to be a political ass kisser and get appointed to the Supreme Court I would understand how dumb I was. Now my only black friends are wannabe actors who want to play Republicans on the West Wing. I tell them that the show is no longer in production, but they tell me I'm wrong. They watch it on TBS.
Black history month?
Nobody told me.
Hardly cowardice…. By reporting these guys, not only would I have never worked in my chosen profession ever again, since I was working for one of the biggest movie craft shops in Hollywood, but also;
1. Los Angeles is a sanctuary city for illegals. Nobody touches them.
2. These guys were picked up from an official City of Los Angeles designated temporary worker pick up spot. Its a fenced in parking lot with gazebos (to protect them from inclimate weather), port-o-pottties, and catering trucks provided them with food to buy. You think INS is unaware of this set-up?
3. You presume INS cares. Go to any restaurant, any factory, any construction site, any Hollywood celebrities nanny, any lawn cutting service, any labor heavy business in Los Angeles, illegals everywhere. Remove illegals from Los Angeles and the city ceases to function. INS is aware of all the illegals but they don't care. If the Fed did care, they would prosecute the people who hire illegals.
Heck, I was in a Mexican run store in Los Angeles and they were selling prescription medicine (antibiotics) without requiring a prescription, nor was it even behind the counter… it was in a basket for anyone to buy. It is a Federal Offense to dispense prescription medicine without a prescription… I called the police, I called the health department… I was told there was nothing they could do.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you didn't know this is how things work in the US???
"Many black Americans would retort the race v. nation thing by pointing out that the Slavery system eradicated their connections to their home countries"
While I despise slavery, would most blacks be better off if they were living in Africa?
I knew Gary wouldn't let us down – great read. Now if Hollyweird would only beam Holder up to his rightful mantle in time for the Oscar litany; a gig on the good ship Enterprise in the next Star Trek film installment – his being 'light years' ahead of the rest of us and all.
it is one thing to address the troops and announce there is a new sheriff running the corporate culture. It's entirely a different matter when he stands up nationally and barfs like a robot programed by Randall Robinson and Michael Eric Dyson.
Thank god that just because he's the Top Cop doesn't mean he has the troops or power to insititute a pogrom to impliment his Program. Cowardly? Right about now there is only one American who comes to mind – Louis Freed -for his performance singing hosanna's about Holder in his Senate confirmation hearing. Amen Gary.
I second INDIVIDULISTS casting call for a RED EYE extravaganza – with this programing suggestion – a Big Hollywood commentary riff as the shows focus. Give us in the peanut gallery a 30 min shout out – would be a fun time.
Notice how all the Leftists fail to address Dr. King's message that Gary quoted. Instead they try to change the subject, since there simply is no coherent or logical argument against judging people based on their character.
in the pc world, a racist is anyone winning an agrument against a liberal.
And isn't it time for another Obama autobiography?
There's no point in the hard left being innately superior to you by their own arbitrary declaration if they can't call you names, Mr. Graham.
Obviously reading isn't your strong point, is it tshillue?
I just found out I'm a racist because I don't support the stimulus bill.
The other day a homeless guy asked me for my credit card. I said no. He told me I was a racist too.
Oh, and my teen-aged daughter wanted some money to upgrade her cell phone. I told her no and SHE called me a racist too.
I don't want to be a racist, so I guess I will be FOR the stimulus bill (after I was against it.) I'll track down and give the begging guy my plastic AND I'll buy my daughter a phone that can play movies while applying her make-up when she texts.
"Racist" is the "booger" of the world. (Apologies to John Lenon.)
Yep, they would probably also call him stupid, just like they do to Clarence Thomas (my favorite justice — brilliant man!!!).
I'll second that!! That episode would be KILLER!
Erasmus,
The problem with your argument is the assumption that only White people want to Black History Month to end. In an interview on 60 Minutes, veteran actor Morgan Freeman (Dark Knight) considered BHM to be insulting and wished that Black History was fully integrated with American History. See video below:
http://afronerd.blogspot.com/2009/01/mr-freeman-y...
Freeman's wish may come true since a growing number of Black people see the election on Obama as proof of BHM being unnecessary:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29057064/
Bottom line this discussion over BHM is not as Black and White as you're making it out to be.
We have a national holiday celebrating Martin Luther King's birthday. I'm German-descended American and a Lutheran. Should I be offended that my ethnic forebear Martin Luther isn't celebrated? Should I be offended that most of today's Americans don't even know who Dr. King was named after? Martin Luther (at least in my mind) was a great man. But what did he do for America? Dr. King is a great man who did something very important for America. We celebrate Dr. King's birthday because of what he did for America and what he was, not what color he was. Black history month is all about what color people are. Their deeds and accomplishments are tangential their race. That's why Gary Graham doesn't like it. And I don't like it for the very same reason.
Coward? I'd say "FEARLESS!" This guy has nads that would startle a horse with some of the postings he's made. Gary, you're my hero.
Eric Holder is an ingrate and a doofus…
About once a class in college.
Professionally, I see cops get accused of it EVERY single time they arrest a black person. I see witnesses get accused of it when they identify blacks as criminals. I see military guys get accused of it (as a group) when they don't promote enough black officers.
The governors of those "Southern" (read: dirty, white, racist) states (S.C., Tx, Miss, IDAHO and ALASKA) were accused of it today by James Clyburn because they thought about not taking stimulus funds — too many strings attached.
Ward Connelly, Clarence Thomas, they get accused of being racists all the time.
The NY Post was accused today because they published a political cartoon.
Rush is accused every time liberals mention his name.
Spent much time in the US have ya?
No, actually the right lost because we worried too much about what your side thought of us.
The GOP is too wussified now. That's the point and you know it.
Try another angle.
4 years. That's all Obama's got.
4 Years.
Or the fact that lefty, Birkenstock wearing, patchouli oil smellin' , douchebags are a bunch of racists.
Everytime I see a herd of neo-hippies it's always a bunch of white people.
Another awesome article Mr. Graham.
I am a Federal Worker and last month we actually celebrated an Anglo American Day. I think everyone should just celebrate being American but to be honest I think if minorities are allowed to have there history celebrated (I am a Pacific Islander by definition) then non-minorities should have the same opportunity. It's only fair……
A-POX on E.Holder…
Oh this is great !!!…Eric Holder admits that we have made progress in the workplace but it's not enough.He calls fellow citizens COWARDS. Holder admits we have made progress on race, but he wants to continue to bash 'Whitey' and for what? To get inside people's minds?
That smacks of Gulaug's & Re-Education camps. I am a person of color, and I have seen good…decent people have their careers and lives ruined because a race baiter has taken some inocente comment, and 'Sinisterize' it!
In a world like that it's no wonder that many Whites choose to not engage in the issue, and I don't blame them for that choice…
AS LONG AS RACE BUSHWACKERS LIKE ERIC HOLDER CAN LYNCH THE INOCENTE, WHY EXPOSE YOURSELF TO THEIR SLANDER…
HAAA!!!! Syn…I think you have an excellent point. And if she'd been named VP, I'd be a Sexist Racist Coward.
Andrew, I'm afraid I don't play for that team. (Though you are kinda cute, and I understand, a smooth dancer, lol)
Andrew, I'm afraid I don't play for that team. (Though you are kinda cute, and I understand, a smooth dancer, lol)
Agent Orange — Thank you for sharing that. You demonstrated in your actions what I was talking about. You were a caring human being, extending a caring hand to other fellow human beings. Dr. King would applaud you.
Just another of those Sal Alinsky intimidation tactics. It's coming from all fronts – creating excuses for systematic takeover and makeover of our society as we knew it. Join them or suffer the consequences …
Is everyone here so sure reparations are off the table, for now? Seems I just read where in the stimulus bill there is wording that could be used to accomplish this task, very easily. Perhaps someone here has actually read that? As for BHM, I have always pictured the wonderful DR. King rolling over in his grave. This was the complete opposite of his dream.
You forgot the cartoonist who drew Condoleezza Rice as a grotesque caricature (reminiscent of the early 1900s), Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams being called, "new breed of Uncle Tom … " by the former President of the NAACP, Juan Williams being called a "happy negro" on CNN, and more examples than I could fit in a hundred posts.
Liberals are the true racists in our society. They are willing to TOLERATE minorities, as long as those minorities toe the company line when it comes to politics and victimhood. Black History Month is necessary to remind black people of their place by the Left. If they choose to speak their mind (because virtually all polls show as individuals, they share more in common with Conservatives than Liberals), the Left is only too happy to use the most foul and incendiary language imaginable to remind them that they've stepped out of line. If you use Chicago to judge (virtually a monolithic Democratic establishment), you'd see poverty, poor education, high crime, high percentages of single parents (and of teen births), and a permanent voting block for the Democrats, who control the policies that have kept them there.
Martin Luther King would be proud…..right?
Great article, Gary. I couldn't agree more. When someone is suffering in this society, we should all want to help if possible, no matter what their race, color, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. When someone succeeds, none of those things should matter either. Victimization is a cottage industry, and Obama being elected (despite years of Liberals saying it would never happen in America because we're so bad) is going to do nothing to change that. Does anyone really think people like Sharpton, Holder, Jackson, Clyburn and others are going to give up the thing that's gotten them so far in life? Does anyone think that the people who've failed (but manage to blame it all on forces outside their control) will take the blame themselves?
People are predictable and this argument will be around until long after most of us are gone (no matter how "bravely" we are willing to acquiesce to idiots like Holder).
non-existent "reparations".
The reparations are occurring as we speak. When you take money from people who have paid their bills on time and give it to people who have not, claiming that those people were treated unfairly when they were actually given loans that they should not have gotten on the merits — what is that if not "reparations"?
You are a coward. After your wrote your first column, ending with an invitation to fight, I offered several times to go to your house and fist fight you. You never wrote back. The offer still stands. Though now I require airfare as I have moved.
Hey, Nate…you didn't have to move. There's bailout money coming for you based on whatever poor choice you made with your last house.
Look, Gary insinuated in his first column that if someone didn't like what he had to say, they could come to his house and it would be settled like men. I took that offer up, in multiple posts, and never got a reply. I would appreciate it if battles picked were fought by those that picked them, not sycophants. And who calls themselves the Underling? Seriously, you should get some self esteem.
Yes, and Barack Obama promised to take Public campaign financing, have transparency in Government, reduce spending, and work in a bi-partisan manor. I think the thing to remember is that if you're waiting for a public figure to do exactly what he says (especially if his saying it was hyperbole), then it might say more about you than him.
So not expecting people to stand by what they say… That's what I should do? That makes sooo much more sense. My life is now much easier. Also, why is public capitalized?
People talk about values, but then they don't back it up.
Holder doing what the prez and his ilk do best – preach with hypocrisy about something that they massage for the continuance of bogus power.
The current prez is high on this bogus power and as with faux jewels/money, in the end and after the mark (Real Americans) is burned and sees the truth, this fake/bogus power/authority will come back and bite the messiah and his ilk.
Oh forget Andrew…..marry me! But seriously…you are the bright spot of my week. I look forward to your blogs with great anticipation and am never ever disappointed. Eric Holder's comments pissed me off. I have come to the conclusion that any converstation about race from me that doesn't begin and end with "I'm white and I'm sorry" will be considered racist and therefore I don't have those conversations. My friends……of all races, genders, religions, and policitcal persuasions know me and know that I think stupid people are stupid….regardless of the color of their skin.
Yes Mr. Holder Americans are cowards about race. Whay aren't we as americans addressing the facts that in many inner city and major cities the graduation rates is around 25% or so? Why aren't we as Americans addressing the enormous employment disparity this produces? Why aren't we as Americans addressing the huge disparity between the nmber single parent homes in certain communities that produce obvious behavioral and education problems in children for years? Why aren't we as Americans addressing the fact that non involvement in their childrens education produces the single biggest disparity in tests scores and acheivements in children's educational success?
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Why aren't we as Americans listening to and implementing the suggestions of Dr. Martin Luther King, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele and even the likes of Bill Cosby?
Why because the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,Jerimiah Wright and their ilk find it much more profitable to point fingers at real and perceived racism as the cause of all this inequity. Gentlemen, gentlemen, the Civil Rights Act of I believe 1968 1991 and even 1858 should've made it clear that you can't legislate thought but you can make certain actions illegal. Make it illegal to use institutional racism to hold someone back. So let's get over the finger pointing and the blaming just like people who are discriminated against because they are fat,short,ugly etc. must get over their isms.
That is why we don't NEED a Black History Month any longer. Nothing succeeds like competence and persistence and there have been competent and successful black folks around forever so let's not act so surprised and go along with Mr. Freeman ( how oddly apropos that name is for him) and realize it is American history and the fact someone is black AND accomplished shouldn't be celibrated any more as an anamoly. Sadly the one arena that I find most black participants sadly at the bottm rung of quality and acheivements with their tawdry white and ethic colleagues is politics Mr. Holder
Great article again Gary, Eric Holder’s comments fired you up! Color is just another tool of the Democratic strategy of the past 50 yrs. is, “divide and conquer.” The Balkanization of America is moving apace, and in their quest for Utopia could drive this country finally to ashes. Victim hood is a status of honor for the miserable left, and as far as the, “race pimps” are concerned they will never let racism die it’s their industry, their livelihood. We as conservative have to stop caring about their slurs and stupid, “ism’s & phobias.” We are allowing the loser dregs of society rule the roost out of fear of words.
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These are the lessons taught by overeducated 60’s radicals, win by any means necessary, “Steal this book.” The point is they hate us, hate’em back, and if brinkmanship is their game take it to the brink. No less than the survival of the greatest country the world has ever known is at stake, the USA! If the light goes out in America the world will be thrown into darkness much as the fall of Rome gave us the Dark Ages, 800 yrs of disease and misery, kind of like the world the Democrats dream of for us all, except of coarse them!
I am not a coward about discussing race. I talk to every Ni**er that I can about it all of the time. I've even learned that the compound word mother-fu*ker can be used for anyone or anything. This is a great country. Eric Holder needs to go back to pardoning major criminals and shut his stupid mouth. Only an idiot like BHO would appoint an idiot like EH.
> So… if Mr. Holder is calling me a racist and a coward…isn’t he’s calling Dr. Martin Luther King one, as well?
Probably, or at the very least, an Uncle Tom – just like Bill Cosby. Luv ya Gary! Keep up the good fight!!
Come to think of it, though, they used to pinch you if you didn't wear green. Damn Irish.
Depends on how cute the pinchers are
(Oops.. did I say something sexist now? Someone call the PC police!)
Holder is a delusional "racist coward". Holder is jealous of Obama. Holder thinks that he (Holder) should be the BLACK President.
Huh? Gee, this sounds pseudo-intellectual, but could you please back this assertion up with one or two examples of urban black culture that directly link back to English/Scotch border culture? I'm trying to make the connection between hip-hip music and bagpipes, but just can't do it.
Stan you are so right on it is painful how did we let these existential idiots get so powerful. Their inability to see and discuss to a rational conclusion is really hamstringing our society. If they THINK it works or is right that's all they need. Ergo we are the unhappy beneficieries of busing, welfare and the public school. system
blk/male/27/Independent…This editorial is a joke. I love the way the RIGHT puts words in Holder's mouth. When did Holder call any of you racists? Never. By simply asking that we (not you specifically brain-child) talk about race, the RIGHT goes off the deep end. Cut the self righteous BS b/c we all know America is still racist, that's not even a question. This is one of those "O not me, I have black friends" arguments. Well, Mr. Graham, everyone is not like you and doesn't share your love for multiculturalism, which should’ve been obvious. You think your ideas and opinions of blacks are illustrative of the entire country? Right!!! Your blathering is exactly what Holder was referring to in that we need a non-superficial discussion on race. Your argument defeats your cause, may I suggest you refrain from writing for 5 months, which should give you enough time to grasp the fundamental concepts of logic.
Ha Ha! Yesterday I was in Borders. I walked past two Obama shrines without barfing, but when I saw THREE SHELVES of Obama books in the US History section, I had to turn them all with the back cover facing out. I'll admit it was childish, but I just couldn't stand to see his face taking up that much space.
There are white people in space right now (9:58 by my clock). Any 9th grader who doesn't know that is pretty far gone.
Oh, you are going to stamp out racism? Your plan please? Oh yes and define racism please.
Thanks
Are you saying that promoting racism is good business? Man, that is so capitalistic an idea. I like it.
Think I will find a gig like that.
Anyone who tries to initiate dialog by calling the citizens of the US a "nation of cowards" is not likely to generate rational dialog. EH could have been much more eloquent in his speech IF his intent was to prod folks to talk more about racial differences and how these may be set aside.
Having read his entire speech, I don't think that was his intent.
If it was, the man needs a new speechwriter.
The problem, though, is that white people are not allowed to discuss race. If they try to, they are called racist. It's never a discussion, just a lecture from blacks. (Your post is a good example.) After a while, white people just give up and walk away from the "discussion". Just out of curiosity – have you ever had a discussion with a white person about race that didn't end with you calling the white person a racist?
Salient point.
As the Bible states; "What satan meant for evil, God used for good.
[...] this issue can be found at these links. Read them all, if you have the time…They are worth it: Big Hollywood’s Gary Graham: “I’m a Racist Coward!” Big Hollywood’s Joseph Lindsey: “Al Sharpton and the Economics of False Outrage” If Obama wanted [...]
"At my favorite Baptist Church in North Hollywood, the congregation being 90% Black, I have often been asked to get up and read long passages of scripture for special events. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Good Friday, Easter Sunday."
Well, Easter's coming up. How about a little experiment? Take a pack of index cards with you. If and when they ask you to speak, pass out the cards, and ask the congregation as a personal favor to write down their most recent personal experience with racism, if they've had one in the last month or so. The results may be worth an essay.
IAMLEGEND: You’ve got a chip on your shoulder the size of an oak, and have incessant need to wallow in the past. This conversation is boring in regards to where we are as a people and race. Being that the country is around 13% black my guess is some nasty white folks voted for your guy. I recommend, “get over it!
With all the commentary, I feel like I'm shouting into the hurricane, but…
Holder's comments struck me as being neutral insofar as blame went. When I first heard them, I didn't think he was talking about me, a middle-aged white guy, any more than he was talking about my colleagues who are black, or Asian, etc…
We do have a residual wide-spread race problem in America. To my mind, it is centered in a generalized mistrust of the motives of people attempting to speak for their race. That is why when Holder said what he did, many white folk assumed he was playing the old blame game. And there is ample evidence that black resentment for past injury continues today. Witness Al Sharpton. However, though the Rev. Al is a racist opportunist who seems to want to foment disunity, let us white people remember that many of our black friends and colleagues, alive right now, lived under Jim Crow laws in this country. That was institutionalized and systematic legal racism. When we think to ourselves that blacks are really pretty paranoid about racism, we need to remember that.
The rhetorical dialectic (the back and forth of argument) of race may eventually be helpful, but we won't ever get beyond our history until we find it in ourselves to be forgiving and to see through the past to our new day. Ultimately, blacks as the original injured party will have to forgive whites. That's not really a fair proposition; it is a hard thing. But I believe it is the only one that will move us forward. On the other hand, I am sympathetic with Gary's take on race, but I believe he was too quick to assume the worst on Holder's part.
So that is what I see about us now. One complicating factor in all this is that racists bubble up all the time. Fear and suspicion of "the other", people who aren't like you for one reason or another, is going to happen. It just is. It is dark side of the human character. I work in a majority black environment and I see this happen with whites, blacks, members of one state or another, one school or another. Anthropological cases can be made, but let's not right now.
Enough from me.
Bravo! Thank you again, Gary Graham!
Missing the point but making it aren't you. I don't care about your or Holder's past. If you are put in a situation where you can't cut it because of lack of talent or effort than get lost. I don't want to hear about yuour past or someone has it in for you for ANY reason. BooHoo someone doesn't like me for my race that's racist and we need to discuss it. Respect, self esteem,acheivement and honor are won by confident ,hard working, talented folks not whiners and excuse makers. So quit waiting for ways to excuse your failures and waiting for the affirmative action train an power your own success. Not even a question of America being racist. Why don't you and Michelle Obama go get some cheese with your whine ane enjoy your AA degrees and jobs and shut up.
Yes. Actually every time. I use an academic definition of racism to gauge one's thought's on race, which is rare, but serves as rational tool in such dialogue. Racism, simply put, is placing a hierarchy on the races in any order. Not too many people agree with a racial hierarchy. What blacks generally call "racism" is really just offensive or insensitive things said/done to blacks. This is where all the confusion and hate stems from–there is no widespread definition of racism and so we're left with 300 million opinions as to what it is.
True logic.
Yes. Actually every time. I use an academic definition of racism to gauge one's thought's on race, which is rare, but serves as rational tool in such dialogue. Racism, simply put, is placing a hierarchy on the races in any order. Not too many people agree with a racial hierarchy. What blacks generally call "racism" is really just offensive or insensitive things said/done to blacks. This is where all the confusion and hate stems from–there is no widespread definition of racism and so we're left with 300 million opinions as to what it is.
You had to have noticed?/ Where else could an over qualified shoeshine black like Sharpton have so much influence? That's Sharpton
Wallow in the past you say–my comments mention no points in history so please explain. I'm not sure how any of what you've said relates to a single word I wrote. If you don't believe this is still a racist country you're fooling yourself–if this illustrates my chip-on-the-shoulderesque attitude then so be it. Reality guides my thoughts.
What a waste of time but a perfectly representative waste of your pendantic time. Waste your effort in defining terms instead of self improvement that results in personal advancement. If your photo is a true representation of your situation I understand your onanistic pursuit of these types of discussions.
"Am I the only one in America…who finds this the least bit patronizing and insulting…and downright, well, racist?"____No, you are certainly not the only one who feels this way! Thank you so much for this article. I will be passing it on. ____The true racists are people like Holder. And yet this is the mentality we have in this country and have now elected into the White House. ____And I am sick of it.
So, I see you're new to this writing thing. Well, for starters, let's get you to use words properly. Your poor attempt to "sound" intellectual fails miserably.
And ? and? the lesson please where is your pendantic reply or did you finally use a dictionary and find out that you are a jag off. To use a Western Pennsylvania idiom. Intellectual? That's your pretense not mine. Be sure to look those up too. Please go back to your onanistic preoccupation with racism as it still exists.
This is kind of like that town hall meeting about Lawn Maintenance that ends in a yelling match about topics ranging from Iraq to Filipino War Vets benefits to the Oscars. Your flatfooted arguments are trite at best. By asking a nation to discuss race in no particular terms that somehow makes EH a whiny hack. I don't see the connection. When Clinton asked the nation to do the same thing it went unnoticed. To you, racism is not a big deal and we should just learn to work around it–not surprising to hear that from, what I presume is a non-minority, who has yet to feel the true effects of racism, especially in the workplace, thereby bolstering Holder's request to discuss the issue b/c naysayers like yourself are completely amiss to reality. In sum, your argument states: racism's not a big deal b/c it doesn't affect me all that much–enlightening.
A double dose of your two favorite words, your brilliance is unending. Moreover, to take true pride in using a uncommon word illustrates your lightweightedness.
It is very enlightening to listen to a professorial pissant and racist pontificate about the irrelevance of another's argument is indeed humorous and very enlightening. For you to suggest that racism in by many definitions still has this mystic power over blacks and their accomplishments is quite revealing. It apparently had no such hold on the George Washington Carvers,Thomas Sowells, Barack Obama and their ilk. Thankfully your self imposed nemisiswill fully restrict you from reaching any lofty career plateaus because you believe in it so. And unlike you I have neither the desire ,the time nor the inclination to engage in any further cyclical polemics with the likes of you. lGo back to your self inflicted wounds. olololololololololol
IAMLEGEND: Good have your way we’ll pick sides and fight it out. This will be the inevitable end with your circular logic. Because, I for one am sick of it! It’s a comfortable spot to be a constant victim heh… or you gunning to take Al Sharpton’s spot or perhaps a useless community organizer like Barry.
[...] Gary Graham (fast becoming a favorite author of mine) over at Big Hollywood has a bit more to say about it. Apparently, I’m a racist coward because I want to be color blind. This great national offense of racism doesn’t want to die – even though we just elected our first black president. Just when you thought it was okay to climb out of the past, to put racial injustice and animosity behind us…the Attorney General in the national media yesterday drags it back out. [...]
There is no end to the shining splendor of your wisdom, that is until reason is applied to your boundless schmuckery. For any sane person of any race to say racism doesn't exists is not comical, but rather and more likely a mental health issue. Carver, Sowell, and Obama will all agree. Racism doesn't fatalistically hinder one's greatness, but certainly roughens the road on the way there. Right-wingers really should quit deluding themselves that racism doesn't significantly affect all people. I know numerous blacks that would spit in a white man's face simply because it's Friday. I'll close with this: throughout the posted comments many from whites (some blatantly racist others closeted) who have a sour opinion of blacks, I wonder, if they were placed in a hiring position for any company would said sour opinion have an effect on whether or not they would hire a black person–the answer is rather obvious.
IAMLEGEND: When I hire someone race doesn’t cross my mind, but, if they’re a smuck, no chance Lance, life’s to short. I also know a number of whites that would spit in a blacks eye because it’s Friday, and a brown that would spit in a red’s, eye, and a yellow spit in a (you pick a race, this is your profession) Helter Skelter! They are all a bunch of useless blithering redneck race baiting idiots stuck on their own limitations. You put your 80 to 100 hrs a week in, in this country and you to can be an evil rich guy with no time to sit around, and dwell on stupid little insipid excuses why I can’t.
Try reading Albion's Seed by David Hackett Fischer for a starting point for understanding the theory of the cultural transmission of "folkways." Have fun. (Not saying I agree with the theory or disagree with the theory, just saying that there is such a theory).
Hey just where are these white lesbian strippers??? Do you have a phone number or something please? Don't tease.
your arguments are inane. if you and the author can't understand why there might be a need for black history month, then you should probably go back and read your history books. and what connections? are you for real?
Well, apparently the National Black Republican Association has considered the voting frenzy for our illustrious baby POTUS and has issued all whites an absolution from guilt. In essence, "Congratulations. You elected a black. Now get over yourselves and press on to greater issues–like saving our REPUBLIC from our politicians!" I thought it was tremendously clever..
I've got to admit to feeling as if a time capsule had opened on innauguration day and accusations that were flying around in the 50's and 60's were flying around again!! In my life, they were settled! I've got a full spectrum of friends. We're friends and who cares what race we all are? Now Holder opens his big mouth and lights a fire.
Keep it up Mr. Graham! Be blessed.
What is inane is that a grown person such as yourself doesn't know how to capitalize words at the beginning of sentences.
Now, do you care to explain your arguments for such a racist tradition as Black History Month? I am not going to waste my time repeating the argument against it since it was clearly laid out in the article. Or did you even bother to read it and consider what was said?
Where does one start with this inane article? You, Gary, may very well be a racist. Either that, or incredibly insensitive. I'll let you choose. But let me start with your "because I want to be color blind". I'm assuming you struggle with this. Either you are or you're not. Wanting to doesn't make it so. Maybe you should start there and ask yourself why you wrote this silly article.
Secondly, I think you should go back and look at your history books, and then maybe you'll discover why there's a need for black history month. I'm white and I know there is very little taught in our schools about the accomplishments and contributions of blacks in our "American History". You think this is a color blind society? How many laps of a blank santa have you or your kids sat on? How many times have you been turned down for a job because of the color of your skin? And if you say you don't see racism, you're lying or just plain blind.
This is all I can comment on as I could only stomach 2 paragraphs of your "article".
Oh let's all just go celebrate Kwanzaa again. lololololol. that Black Holiday says it all.
It's a small point on a pretty stupid statement — Holder's — but in fairness, he didn't call you a racist coward, he just called you a coward. Also? The fact that you are color-blind, and I know that you are, doesn't mean the larger society shares your outlook, or that racism, overt or covert, doesn't exist here and elsewhere.
Where does one start with this inane article? You, Gary, may very well be a racist. Either that, or incredibly insensitive. I'll let you choose. But let me start with your "because I want to be color blind". I'm assuming you struggle with this. Either you are or you're not. Wanting to doesn't make it so. Maybe you should start there and ask yourself why you wrote this silly article.
Secondly, I think you should go back and look at your history books, and then maybe you'll discover why there's a need for black history month. I'm white and I know there is very little taught in our schools about the accomplishments and contributions of blacks in our "American History". You think this is a color blind society? How many laps of a blank santa have you or your kids sat on? How many times have you been turned down for a job because of the color of your skin? And if you say you don't see racism, you're lying or just plain blind.
This is all I can comment on as I could only stomach 2 paragraphs of your "article".
You’ve got to be kidding or you don’t have children. That’s all “teachers” talk about in the school are slavery, “this ism, and that ism, and this phobia and that phobia. Subsequently we have stupid kids of every color, thanks NEA. Schools are for reading, writing, and arithmetic. Some insipid social experiment and a constant caterwauling about America bad, America bad… Screw white, black, red, brown, yellow History month it should be American history month. This attempt at the Balkanization of America is incredibly dangerous and naïve, the bad part is this fools parade is beginning to work, people are digging in, and the result could be disastrous, where does this end? What Gary said was good sense reasonable, live with it! What’s the alternative? Our country is great because the sum of all it’s parts, and the USA is a gift to the world, without it would result in complete anarchy, but I’m afraid we’re going to give it a wag.
God Bless America!
As our colors, cultures and creeds continue to collide in mostly peaceful resolution; future generations will undertake the ominous task of deciphering an all inclusive American history. The task that lies before our children and their children will be to construct a history book which includes every great American beginning with Geronimo. In the meantime, perhaps snippets of American history are more digestible? Indeed, therefore, why not Black history, European history, Native history, Asian history, Hispanic history and all the rest assembled in such a way that from each snippet a clearer portrait of American History can illuminate us as one people, one nation under God…?
There are plenty of cable channels to celebrate all of us.
Nice to know you guys are doing what Holder wanted you to do…. discuss and discuss and discuss race. Most likely, if you are reading this or other articles like this you are NOT racist. You are just sooo tired of being called a racist by the left. Oh, just wanted to throw this out… anyone out there think that the blame for Katrina was put on the wrong person?
So you've heard that sermon in its entirety…?
As opposed to Biblical deliberate misunderstanding?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Ca...
"Emancipation should have been enough."
And it could have been. Black Americans got quite a few seats in the Congress after the Civil War. The white response to that progress was hysteria, poll taxes and the Klan.
The signs used to say "No Blacks Or Irish Need Apply". The Irish got their President by taking over the city government of New York —
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_F._Murphy
– and then building on that political success. Blacks had their political success stripped from them.
"To respect one another we must have a basic understanding of one another. And so we should use events such as this to not only learn more about the facts of black history but also to learn more about each other. This will be, at first, a process that is both awkward and painful but the rewards are potentially great." –Eric Holder
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-0...
The address is 2300 words long.
"We still speak too much of "them" and not "us". There can, for instance, be very legitimate debate about the question of affirmative action. This debate can, and should, be nuanced, principled and spirited. But the conversation that we now engage in as a nation on this and other racial subjects is too often simplistic and left to those on the extremes who are not hesitant to use these issues to advance nothing more than their own, narrow self interest. Our history has demonstrated that the vast majority of Americans are uncomfortable with, and would like to not have to deal with, racial matters and that is why those, black or white, elected or self-appointed, who promise relief in easy, quick solutions, no matter how divisive, are embraced. We are then free to retreat to our race protected cocoons where much is comfortable and where progress is not really made." — Eric Holder
"In these difficult years, America has suffered from a fever of words; from inflated rhetoric that promises more than it can deliver; from angry rhetoric that fans discontents into hatreds; from bombastic rhetoric that postures instead of persuading. We cannot learn from one another until we stop shouting at one another–until we speak quietly enough so that our words can be heard as well as our voices." — Richard Nixon
"There are plenty of cable channels to celebrate all of us."
That's part of the problem. Everyone gets his own channel and no one watches anyone else's.
When I was a child their description was "colored". Then our government insured equality and they became "black". Once they were empowered they wanted to be "african". I disagree with the baiting use of the adjective "coward". To be perfectly honest we just don't care. If our young people refuse them they are labeled "racist". They are given job preference regardless of their abilities and qualifications. Our bloated, ineffective, bureaucracies are declared "plantations (the honest observation of Hillary Clinton). They still are the most prolific urban carcinogens in our society. The most hideous crimes and most lenient sentences that burden our resources and feed the police state. So we are culturally segregated. Our mulatto president will drive home the wedges that will bring the inevitable.
"I don't believe in Black History Month any more than I believe in White History Month. To me, Black History Month is a complete insult to Blacks. … Am I the only one in America who finds this the least bit patronizing and insulting and downright, well, racist?"
The only one? No:
"Black history is given a separate, and clearly not equal, treatment by our society in general and by our educational institutions in particular. As a former American history major I am struck by the fact that such a major part of our national story has been divorced from the whole. In law, culture, science, athletics, industry and other fields, knowledge of the roles played by blacks is critical to an understanding of the American experiment. For too long we have been too willing to segregate the study of black history. There is clearly a need at present for a device that focuses the attention of the country on the study of the history of its black citizens. But we must endeavor to integrate black history into our culture and into our curriculums in ways in which it has never occurred before so that the study of black history, and a recognition of the contributions of black Americans, become commonplace. Until that time, Black History Month must remain an important, vital concept. But we have to recognize that until black history is included in the standard curriculum in our schools and becomes a regular part of all our lives, it will be viewed as a novelty, relatively unimportant and not as weighty as so called "real" American history."
So said Eric Holder.
Most of my ancestors came to the USA from Ireland. The rest from Scotland and England. My maternal grandfather was a first generation American. I do not consider myself an Irish-American. I do not need any Holiday other than the 4th of July to celebrate my heritage. I am proud of what my ancestors accomplished here. America is my history and my heritage.
So he got into Stuyvesant through affirmative action?
"Together with Brooklyn Technical High School and Bronx High School of Science, Stuyvesant is one of the three original academic Specialized High Schools of New York City. Run by the New York City Department of Education, the trio are open to New York City residents and charge no tuition. Admission to each is by competitive examination only, of which Stuyvesant has the highest cutoff score."
Oh, and ACORN hates that exam he passed:
"In 1996 community activist group Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now published two reports, Secret Apartheid and Secret Apartheid II, calling the SHSAT "permanently suspect" and a "product of an institutional racism".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuyvesant_High_Scho...
Net tax recipients vs net tax donors:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.ht...
Or if you eschew Macromedia Flash:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/fedspend_per_t...
"I believed this country had turned that page in history and most racism was in the past."
Based on what data?
And here they are:
ALABAMA: Benjamin S. Turner (42nd Congress), James T. Rapier (43rd Congress), Jeremiah Haralson (44th Congress).
NORTH CAROLINA: John A. Hyman (44th Congress), James O'Hara (48th-49th Congresses), Henry P. Cheatham (51st and 52nd Congresses), George H. White (55th-56th Congresses, and the last African American to serve in Congress until 1928).
SOUTH CAROLINA: Robert C. DeLarge (42nd Congress), Robert B. Elliott (42nd-43rd Congresses), Joseph H. Rainey (42nd-45th Congresses), Alonzo J. Ransier — South Carolina 1873-1875 (43rd Congress), Richard H. Cain (43rd and 45th Congresses), Robert Smalls (44th-45th and 47th-49th Congresses), Thomas E. Miller (51st Congress), George W. Murray (53rd-54th Congresses).
FLORIDA: Josiah T. Walls (42nd Congress, part of the 43rd Congress and a portion of the 44th Congress).
GEORGIA: Jefferson F. Long (41st Congress).
LOUISIANA: Charles E. Nash (44th Congress).
MISSISSIPPI: Hiram R. Revels (41st Congress), Blanche K. Bruce (44th-46th Congresses), John R. Lynch (43rd, 44th and 47th Congresses, and the last AA Congressman from Mississippi until 1987).
VIRGINIA: John M. Langston (51st Congress).
http://www.avoiceonline.org/cbc/bios19th.html
What did they get out of it? Libeled by D.W. Griffith.
[citation needed]
"Ignorant Ass," huh… brilliant! Almost everyone would be the sum of it'sparts you would be the exception, you racist pig! Go and wallow in your guilt.
Your answer just proves my point. Your ignorant ass believes the extent of black history in America is slavery and isms? Educate yourself. And take a look at harry's post while you're at it.
"Screw white, black, red, brown, yellow History month it should be American history month."
And Eric Holder agrees.
"This attempt at the Balkanization of America is incredibly dangerous and naïve, the bad part is this fools parade is beginning to work, people are digging in, and the result could be disastrous, where does this end?"
And Eric Holder agrees.
"As a nation we have done a pretty good job in melding the races in the workplace. We work with one another, lunch together and, when the event is at the workplace during work hours or shortly thereafter, we socialize with one another fairly well, irrespective of race. And yet even this interaction operates within certain limitations. We know, by "American instinct" and by learned behavior, that certain subjects are off limits and that to explore them risks, at best embarrassment, and, at worst, the questioning of one’s character. And outside the workplace the situation is even more bleak in that there is almost no significant interaction between us. On Saturdays and Sundays America in the year 2009 does not, in some ways, differ significantly from the country that existed some fifty years ago. This is truly sad. Given all that we as a nation went through during the civil rights struggle it is hard for me to accept that the result of those efforts was to create an America that is more prosperous, more positively race conscious and yet is voluntarily socially segregated."
My apologies for, the racist pig comment, not my style. When I saw, “ignorant ass, well it was 6.00AM without coffee. My broader point is we had best begin to see one another as unique American individuals, not groups or this country could rip itself apart.
My wife teaches middle school Earth and Space Science. There are ninth graders who actually think the "Star Wars" movies were real.
I'm not sure what that says about my wife's ability as a teacher, but it speaks volumes about the generational influences of popular culture. I grew up with a basic understanding of the difference between fantasy and reality. Of course, the sci-fi that I grew up watching was "Radar Men from the Moon" and "Plan Nine from Outer Space", so it was a lot easier to keep those boundaries in place.
This is the guy who was complaining recently about possibly being blacklisted in Hollywood for writing a tirade against liberals, right?
I’m presently reading a biography of Winston Churchill, and that’s pertinent to this conversation because of the rise of Fascism in the 20’s and 30’s and it’s pitting of one group against another. In my opinion we as a people must see beyond groups, get rid of the hyphenated names, it has led to the Balkanization of America. I’m of Scottish decent, and perhaps this is overly simplistic, I don’t call myself a Scottish American or a European American, I’m an American, silly me.
Now this is worthy of reading(I can't say the same of Graham's)
A Nation of Cowards?
By CHARLES M. BLOW
Published: February 20, 2009
This began as a relatively quiet Black History Month. The biggest highlight was a 72-year-old former Klansman scratching “apologize to John Lewis for beating him up” off his bucket list.
Then came Attorney General Eric Holder’s scathing comments about America being “a nation of cowards” because we don’t have “frank” conversations about race. That got a lot of attention.
I take exception to Holder’s language, but not his line of reasoning. Calling people cowards is counterproductive. It turns the conversation into a confrontation — moving it beyond the breach of true dialogue and the pale of real understanding.
That said, frank conversations are always welcomed. But, before we start, it might be helpful to have a better understanding of the breadth and nature of racial bias.
According to an ABC News/Washington Post poll released last month, twice as many blacks as whites thought racism was a big problem in this country, while twice as many whites as blacks thought that blacks had achieved racial equality.
Furthermore, according to a 2003 Gallup poll, two in five of blacks said that they felt discriminated against at least once a month, and one in five felt discriminated against every day. But, a CNN poll from last January found that 72 percent of whites thought that blacks overestimated the amount of discrimination against them, while 82 percent of blacks thought that whites underestimated the amount of discrimination against blacks.
What explains this wide discrepancy? One factor could be that most whites harbor a hidden racial bias that many are unaware of and don’t consciously agree with.
Project Implicit, a virtual laboratory maintained by Harvard, the University of Washington and the University of Virginia, has administered hundreds of thousands of online tests designed to detect hidden racial biases. In tests taken from 2000 to 2006, they found that three-quarters of whites have an implicit pro-white/anti-black bias. (Blacks showed racial biases, too, but unlike whites, they split about evenly between pro-black and pro-white. And, blacks were the most likely of all races to exhibit no bias at all.) In addition, a 2006 study by Harvard researchers published in the journal Psychological Science used these tests to show how this implicit bias is present in white children as young as 6 years old, and how it stays constant into adulthood.
(You can take the test yourself.)
So why do so many people have this anti-black bias?
I called Brian Nosek, an associate professor in psychology at the University of Virginia and the director of Project Implicit, to find out. According to him, our brains automatically make associations based on our experiences and the information we receive, whether we consciously agree with those associations or not. He said that many egalitarian test-takers were shown to have an implicit anti-black bias, much to their chagrin. Professor Nosek took the test himself, and even he showed a pro-white/anti-black bias. Basically, our brains have a mind of their own.
This bias can seep into our everyday lives in insidious ways. For example, a paper presented at the annual meeting of the American Public Health Association in October found that many white doctors also had an implicit pro-white/anti-black bias, while black doctors showed almost no bias for one race or the other. The paper suggested that these biases may contribute to the unequal treatment of blacks, and that doctors may not even be conscious of it.
Can we eradicate this implicit bias? Maybe.
According to a Brown University and University of Victoria study that was published last month in the online journal PLoS One, researchers were able to ameliorate white’s racial biases by teaching them to distinguish black peoples’ faces from one another. Basically, seeing black people as individuals diminished white peoples’ discrimination. Imagine that.
Now that we know this, are we ready to talk? Maybe not yet. Talking frankly about race is still hard because it’s confusing and uncomfortable.
First, white people don’t want to be labeled as prejudiced, so they work hard around blacks not to appear so. A study conducted by researchers at Tufts University and Harvard Business School and published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found that many whites — including those as young as 10 years old — are so worried about appearing prejudiced that they act colorblind around blacks, avoiding “talking about race, or even acknowledging racial difference,” even when race is germane. Interestingly, blacks thought that whites who did this were more prejudiced than those who didn’t.
Second, that work is exhausting. A 2007 study by researchers at Northwestern and Princeton that was published in the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science found that interracial interactions leave whites both “cognitively and emotionally” drained because they are trying not to be perceived as prejudiced.
The fear of offending isn’t necessarily cowardice, nor is a failure to acknowledge a bias that you don’t know that you have, but they are impediments. We have to forget about who’s a coward and who’s brave, about who feels offended and who gets blamed. Let’s focus on the facts, and let’s just talk.
I didn't realize Holder had singled out Graham with his comment. The narcissism of actors is well known. But actors should also be able to contextualize better than most, considering their profession.
Did Graham write a screed after Gramm's "nation of whiners" comment or Santelli's (and Beck's) "losers" comment?
Graham isn't griping about racism here. He's exploiting this to simply perpetuate his war against liberals. But it is amusing that a man who insists that being conservative in certain circles is risky business can't see how racism is still a problem in areas in America. I'd also bet he scoffs at accusations of sexism and misogyny too.
No, it's conservatives who are the oppressed now!
Lol.
A friend emailed out Mr. Graham's excellent essay; I have to admit that I had never heard of him prior to this. I'm not a fanatic blog reader.
Y'all have missed the point, in your comments (and how "innane" is it to resort to name-calling rather than constructing coherent, logical and cohesive replies). Mr. Graham's pointing out the underlying hypocrisy of Mr. Holder's (and others') position is the critical essay point. Anytime personal characteristics OTHER THAN intellect, strength of character, integrity, and virtue are replaced by characteristics OVER WHICH THE INDIVIDUAL HAS NO CONTROL as justification for his/her accomplishments or lack thereof, then the individual's accomplishments/lack thereof are diminished in terms of personal accomplishment, which (I believe) was the point of Dr. King's speech.
Throughout the course of man's recorded history, hypocrisy has been our greatest failing. So say one thing and practice another is nothing less than lying. More "feathers have been ruffled" by being called a liar than almost any other insult, I would surmise. Yet hypocrisy among all political parties and "intellectual leanings" is rampant. Liberals decry the "rounding up" of Native Americans and placing them on reservations, thereby destroying their culture and their way of life, yet applaud the "rounding up" of blacks, browns, whites-of-no-value ("white trash") and placing them in government housing ("The Projects") wherein their culture and way of life has been permanently obliterated — and CALL THIS GOOD! Until all of humanity practices "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.[Philippians 2:3-4]" then there will be no significant advancement in the human condition. Which is EXACTLY what the Prince of this world desires…
Yer a white conservative male too, huh?
Mr. Holder's comments reflected gross ignorance, arrogance and a lack of insight into his position as a civil servant. This from the man that brought us the Mark Rich pardon. But, oh, I'm sorry….THAT was a mistake.
"A nation of cowards."
Holder projects!
Though I agree with Graham overall point, I can't help to feel that he may be missing the prospective that there was a phenomenon in America's history called slavery that canceled out humanness for Black people for hundreds of years in this country. I believe that Black people celebrating their accomplishments is to say, "This was accomplished in spite of the devaluation of self-worth that blacks suffered, which by the way is uniquely the Black experience in American.
Yes we are attempting to move forward from those horrific acts and days but as those who suffered at the hands of the Nazis Blacks seem to be saying never again, and those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
I, for one, have no interest in feeling guilty for all eternity over something that happened so long ago, something that neither I nor my parents nor their parents (and maybe further!) had NO part in.
No one owns black slaves now. There IS no black slavery now and hasn't been for many years. Get over it and stop playing the victim forever and ever.
Fair enuf. I think it's important to acknowledge the past — try telling an Israeli to stop 'rehashing' the Holocaust — and then focus on the present. As for the 92 percent of the black pop who vote for the Democrats? I'm not sure that's any more relevant than the Fundies who are reliable GOP voters. Both groups are accused of unnecessarily unwavering allegiance. And both are taken for granted by the party elites. On the other hand, they're not hypnotized, they're voting their self-interest. i'm not going to argue with that in either case.
As for the stagnation in the black community, that's an old and sad story and it's gone on for far too long. Part of that is about leadership, yes. But I don't think we can completely rule out racism as a factor in that regard.
Seems like pretzel logic. An unending debate with no intention to reach a result. What’s your solution?
"He's exploiting this to simply perpetuate his war against liberals."
There's a war against liberals? Hilarious!
Of course he has a chip on his shoulder! How short our memories and how shallow our understanding of history. Recent history! Can anyone tell me how many generations have passed since the Civil War? Do we realize what kinds of behaviors human beings, American human beings, exhibited in the wake of the emancipation of African slaves? Slaves whom we as white settlers stole away from their homes, histories, families and dignity in the name of manifesting our destiny? Are we clear about this? The comments on this board, though not without merit, are incredibly petty in light of the reality of our recent past. Do we all know about Jim Crow? These are not things we can wish away. We can't simply become colorblind and imagine this world a better place than it is. These are deep national wounds that affect us all, black, white and in between. It's lovely to think us all so enlightened as to not be affected by this reality. I believe you when you say you're a decent person who treats others as you'd like to be treated. We can do more! For America and Americans (none of us live in the bubble we imagine) to turn the page, we have to take actions to heal these shared psychological and spiritual scars. The facts are beyond ugly; our racial history is grotesquely disturbing. Yes, it's history, yes we should live in the now, but we must recognize what exactly our roots so firmly grasp. Conversations such as these, though bubblesque themselves in that we are relating only through cyberspace, are actually quite positive and potentially very healing. I appreciate you all for participating in this, but let's not attack our attorney general for pointing out that though our health has improved, we've still work, good work, to do if we hope to meet our best selves somewhere in the chapters yet to be written.
Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap!!!! It's about time someone stood up against reverse racism! Where's Native American history month? Where's Mexican history month? Mexican-American war anyone? The west was their land first, so they are as much a part of our heritage as blacks. Another blatantly racist thing in America is every city in America has a Washington street, right? Why isn't it George Washington street like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. street? Dr. King has a right to be famous no matter his color, so I agree with his recognition; however, he does not qualify a better status than the father of our country. Although I don't necessarily agree with Black History Month, I understand why black history is important in America as opposed to history itself… to an extent, though. President Obama's election should NOT be included in black history because by now, we are so well integrated that it is only the accomplishment of achieving the Presidency. That is all. Racism will not be dead until the word "race" is dead. Mark my words.
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No Mo and I'm not suggesting that you should feel guilty. I merely pointed out that Graham's overall tone seem to discount the very real fact that there are real reasons to uniquely celebrate as Black people do.
But here something that you should consider the United States of America as a government aided and abetted the act of slavery for hundreds in years. Therefore we are all responsible even if we did not own slaves personally. It's like this, our grand children will be paying for the Obama 3.27trillion dollar bailout though they did not spend any of the money. Do you understand?
AC8 I think AG Holder's comments were inappropriate for his position if he'd like to be head civil rights attorney then fine but as AG he should do as his boss and function above race pandering.
As someone else pointed out, we don't see this special treatment for other people groups. For example, where is Native American month? If anyone has the right to complain about being unfairly treated, they do. But they don't constantly go on about it. And there is no special treatment for them.
It is your choice to keep on apologizing and feeling guilty for something that was before your time and which you had no part in.
What you will not do is force your (false) guilt onto me. I want no part of it.
Jeremy, I agree that there is reverse racism however you wouldn't call Jews recanting history about the Holocaust as reverse Nazism would you? Fact is Blacks have a unique place in American history that others do not. That includes American Indians and Mexicans. There is no other "minority group" that has the exact shared experienced as Blacks have in this country.
Here's a thought, Dr. King would not have done what he did if he were not Black ergo we can not separate race from his accomplishment. We could no better to that then President Obama could deny his own White grandmother.
Just a thought, why don't we simply relegate the celebration of Christmas to " only Christians".?Because christianity is not based on the color of one's skin. We don't tell the atheists, agnostics, jews, etc., not to celebrate a "Holy"day they don't believe in. Many of them take part in it because it is a time of inclusiveness, charity, love, and blindness to things such as racism, hatemongering, and devisivness. Black History Month, on the other hand, seems to perpetuate this notion of division and narcissism.
Great points Harley! Inside what you have stated solutions could be found. To quote one of our greatest presidents, “A house divided against itself cannot stand” a partial of Lincoln’s poignant speech of 1858.
The reason Black history month exists is the fact that history is not told as a whole in American schools. Most of it is romanticized jibberish. In the south the confederacy are talked about like brave souls who fought for their states and they had no fault in their cause. Rather than taken a real look at history. We need to focus more on all cultures history who make up this country and there would be no need for black history month but since we spend 99% of the time making googly eyes at European figures and seeing no fault in anything they ever did then we make up for it with a stupid month, rather than just teaching as you should. Grow up folks
Mo, Please name one other people group that went through 400 years of chattel slavery as the American Black people did and I will concede your point.
As to your point about guilt I don't feel guilty about slavery anymore than I feel guilty about hurricanes Rita and Katrina or the Iraq war what I will do is acknowledge that my government, which I am a part of, have a responsibility for it's actions or in-actions in those events.
Mo,In this case you play the victim, no one is attempting to force anything on you. Grow up this is simply discussion. You should have known when you signed up that there are always different opinions. BTW If you are so worried about being force on wait until the Liberals in power force their agenda down your throat. We'll see how strong you are in protesting then!
Fred, what a crock! Your suggest is being implemented in schools all across this country. It has been for over 50 years and what do we have to show for it? Black history month is one thing but that's not all, we have three to four generations of social idiots that have no idea of American history, what made this country uniquely great and who have elected a Marxist Socialist to the Presidency with no experience who simply promised hope and change out of his mentors handbook Rules for Racicals. You need to take your own advice and grow up!
I've been turned down from jobs many times because of the color of my skin… by the way, I'm WHITE!
I believe that Holder is ramping up for a debate in Congress to extract reparations. On top of the bumbling of the economy into a socialist stew, this will sound the deathknell for America. What I would like to know is if Mr. Holder is really up for the discussion on race. I would like him to explain how my family owes money to anyone when my relatives came over in the 1890's from Ireland and my husband's family came here in the 1900's from Poland. I would also like him to discuss how despite the many and varied costly programs that have been implemented on the taxpayers' dime to "save" African Americans, we still have such a high rate of teen birth, single parents, drug abuse and crime in many African American communities. Sometimes throwing money after a problem isn't the solution, just more icing on the cake. And then there's the issue with Baltinmore's ACORN being caught breaking the law AGAIN. Do you think in his position as top law enforcement officer Holder will do a darn thing to investigate that? Or will he turn a blind eye? This is the most biased and racist administration we have seen in the past 100 years. And if things turn out the way I fear, many folks of all colors will think seriously before they fall for media hype again.
FYI-Before it became a drunken festival and a serious denigration of the Irish people via that stereotype, it was a religious celebration of the patron saint of Ireland. That's why the word "Saint" is clearly indicated in the name.
Yeah, I took that test three times and it always associated white/good – black/bad FIRST then vice versa. Ask any intellectual… establishing a pattern is easy. Deviating from the established pattern is difficult. No wonder we're all racists when the test is biased! This is racism at it's best.
Wow. My comments have all disappeared.
What's up with that?
I call it "indignorance" – a portmanteau word for the ignorant indignation whose primary function is to attract attention. After seeing Al Sharpton's reaction to the NY Post cartoon, I am forced to conclude that all those depictions of Bush as a chimp make HIM the second "black" president – if Clinton was the first.
"I, like many in my generation, have been fortunate in my life and have had a great number of wonderful opportunities. Some may consider me to be a part of black history. But we do a great disservice to the concept of black history recognition if we fail to understand that any success that I have had, cannot be viewed in isolation. I stood, and stand, on the shoulders of many other black Americans [....] as I hope that others will some day stand on my more narrow ones." — EH
I'd say you were a liar or were underestimating the impact of your stupidity.
But there is no way to ever know if any one person is color blind, let alone an entire society. So what's the answer? Do we continually rehash the subject over and over again until 75% of the people are satisfied? 90%? At some point, we need to stop obsessing about the past and find a way to deal with current problems. The fact that 88% – 92% of Blacks vote Democratic is proof that they have not attempted to move on. No culture is monolithic, and far more that 10% identify themselves on issues as more Conservative than the party (despite their voting record). As long as they give their unwavering allegiance to one party, they will be used by that party. At least they should make the Democratic party EARN their vote by forcing them to back programs that are proven to work.
Right now many are being led by people whose only real goal is their own power base. That is counter-productive to more success from Black people as a group (although even saying that gives me the creeps, because I don't believe that "Black people" are any different than any other group, except for the choices that they make collectively). There is a reason that so many immigrants come here and succeed, despite starting with nothing, while we've seen such stagnation in the Black communities. It's not all their fault, but the choices they make (especially not keeping their representatives honest by occasionally voting them out) certainly doesn't help.
Well, "The Fundies" do not vote in those same numbers. In 2004, I believe 20% voted for Kerry. More voted for Obama this time around. Also, religion is a conscious choice, not a skin color (or shared distant heritage). To group Black people together (regardless of where they came from) and assume they must share the same ideals is in fact racist. Someone's race has nothing to do with how they think or how they should vote.
Also, they are certainly NOT voting in their self-interest. It's why I was careful to point out that when polled, Black Americans describe themselves as more Conservative than the party on a myriad of issues (including gay marriage, although I remember you disputing that). It's not an opinion, it's common knowledge (not to mention that it's backed by every poll I've ever seen). Trust me, growing up on the South Side of Chicago you see that no one makes an effort to hide their feelings on the matter.
They are voting how they're told to vote (both by political leaders and community ones). They believe that Republicans don't like Blacks because that's what they've been sold for decades. It's nonsense, and to cast your vote solely on the basis of that myth is self-destructive and leads to them being taken for granted by the very party that sells it. Also, I agree that racism (past and present) does play a role.
Well, "The Fundies" do not vote in those same numbers. In 2004, I believe 20% voted for Kerry. More voted for Obama this time around. Also, religion is a conscious choice, not a skin color (or shared distant heritage). To group Black people together (regardless of where they came from) and assume they must share the same ideals is in fact racist. Someone's race has nothing to do with how they think or how they should vote, but the assumption that they do is one thing I disdain about the Left.
Also, they are certainly NOT voting in their self-interest. It's why I was careful to point out that when polled, Black Americans describe themselves as more Conservative than the party on a myriad of issues (including gay marriage, although I remember you disputing that). It's not an opinion, it's common knowledge (not to mention that it's backed by every poll I've ever seen). Trust me, growing up on the South Side of Chicago you see that no one makes an effort to hide their feelings on the matter.
They are voting how they're told to vote (both by political leaders and community ones). They believe that Republicans don't like Blacks because that's what they've been sold for decades. It's nonsense, and to cast your vote solely on the basis of that myth is self-destructive and leads to them being taken for granted by the very party that sells it. Also, I agree that racism (past and present) does play a role.
You show me where I denied that black people went through suffering. Show me that. What you want me to do is apologize for it. I did not do it. I did not condone it. Neither did my family, for generations.
I will therefore not apologize.
I am playing the victim? Hilarious! You're the one feeling guilty for things you never did.
Do not address me again.
Texas TruBlu, I agree with you this IS the most bias and racist administration that we have seen in a very, very long time!
Probably the Mediator of this site
Mo, you now are arguing a non sequitur what are you so highly irrational? If you look back you were the one who address me first I did not address you. You were the one that brought up guilt. I said nothing about guilt until you brought it up. No one asked you to apologize, I know that I didn't! That's a strawman but last the Coup de grâce, You said: "Do not address me again." Suggesting a closed mindedness bigotry of the first order.
You are no debater my friend just a bigot using Eric Holder to as a excuse to come out a play under the sunlight
I was too busy responding to the other idiocies of this person's statement that I didn't even catch that, LOL!
LOL!! Now I'm a bigot? I asked you to show me where I denied black people went through suffering during slavery times. (Which, as the other person pointed out, was not for 400 years!) You cannot do that because I never said or even implied any such thing.
Instead of addressing my point, all you can do is call me a bigot. Thanks for posting your childishness for all the world to see!
So what was it then? 350years or so with 50 years of hard jim crow thrown in for good measure? What we don't need are revisionist who attempt to blame the victim for crime. When your sister was raped I bet she activity participated because of the dress she was wearing huh?
Mo, only idiots that I've seen are you and Des so far!
That's right you're a bigot complete with your made up little I'm not guilty and I'm not going to apologize when the true is I or no one that I know of has asked you to feel guilty or to apologize!
You don't read very well do you? Do you even know what a non sequitur is? I said:"Mo, Please name one other people group that went through 400 years of chattel slavery as the American Black people did and I will concede your point." and you responded, "Show me where I denied black people went through suffering during slavery times." — You aren't that dense are you?
only 4 years of ZerObama, Thank God!
Yeah,Eric, you must be dreaming. Wake up, and beside the point, what is really black in Obama, just the skin. He was raised by what culture? Black or White? Studied and educated from where? Predominantly, white culture. So if we take out Obama's skin tone, what will you come up with Obama, WHITE. Lets all embrace the reality, whichever race is predominant in numbers, they will have the edge.
Rich Galen, aka “Mullings”, raises an interesting question. Will Attorney General Eric Holder use the Public Integrity Section of the Justice Department's Criminal Division to investigate United States Senator Roland Burris, Democrat of Illinois? The other Senator from Illinois, Dick Durbin (also a Democrat), said "the accuracy and completeness of his testimony and affidavits have been called into serious question." Mr. Durbin was referring to Mr. Burris’ testimony made and affidavits submitted during impeachment proceedings against Rod Blagojevich in the Illinois House.
But, this will probably not happen. Mr. Burris will be forced to resign before the White House suffers another political embarrassment much more serious than “Tom Daschle” or “Nancy Killefer” or “Judd Gregg”.
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”. Or, to put it another way, “Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to believe” (in Hope).
[...] fairly in my daily life with no preference or deference to anyone based solely on skin color. I always loved the words of Dr. Martin Luther King who said so eloquently, that he dreamed of a day … But now…I find out that that philosophy is racist and cowardly. And it is proclaimed by the [...]
Yes. A clear reading of both of those incidents in Bible will find nothing mentioned about skin color or any such thing. People that use those verses to "prove" that one skin tone is superior to another are taking the Bible out of context. Where as understanding that the Bible says we are all of one blood is keeping with Biblical context. Consider, The bible starts wtih two humans, Adam and Eve, all humans are descended from them. You get Genesis 6 and the global flood, all Humans are descended from Noah, his wife, Ham, Shem, Japheth, and their wives. Jesus came to save all of mankind, not just people with certain skin tones. We are children of Adam and Eve, we all can be children of God.
"And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:
Free at last! Free at last!
Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
MLK Understood, too bad AG Holder doesn't understand.
"If you think about it the very idea is racist. "
I'm black and inclined to scrap the notion of 'Black History Month' because it has outlived its usefulness: as a way to uplift a segment of American citizens who had for a couple of centuries been hampered by American slavery, Jim Crow laws and Northern segregation. However, nothing you or Gary have said makes the concept 'racist.' If the month were dedicated to elevating blacks over other Americans or dedicated to the supremacy of blacks, you'd have a point. It's not and you don't.
Holder was right. In fact, after I finish this post I'm going to head out for a walk with my dog, and the first black person I see I'll walk up to and lay it all out. "Good morning, black person", I'll say. "Not sure if you're in a rush, but I thought we could take the Attorney General's words under advisement and talk about race. So, you're pretty black eh? What's that like? I mean, right away I noticed that your skin was so much darker than mine and if we just ignore that fact, I won't be able to sleep tonight. So tell me, black man, you're black. Let's talk about it." and so forth.
Brilliant. Anyone care to hang out at my place with an ice pack and a hug so when I return with a well deserved bruise above my brow, I can be consoled? If so, contact me and I'll give you my address.
Okay. I'd still suggest social conservatives as a bloc tend to vote GOP, and tend to have the same complaints about being taken for granted (as Rev. Dobson reminds everyone around election time). Part of Obama's strength is his ability to reach out to people of faith, so I'm not surprised if he did a little better. But they're still fairly consistent.
And no, not like the black voters. Yes, they tend to be more socially conservative — tho' as you recall, it's a myth that this determined the Prop 8 vote, and in fact the conservatism has as much to do with church-going as it does race on a host of issues.
As for being told that Republicans don't like blacks, I'm not sure that necessary. All you have to do is ask them to watch the GOP convention and try to find a black face in the crowd (a drinking game for the sober). And I'd suggest it's more than myth. Pete Wilson's stand on immigration cost the Cali GOP the Hispanic vote for a generation. The GOP's position on affirmative action did much the same regarding the black vote.
Will that change? I dunno. The best route is probably school choice. The Dems tend to be too rigid on this (tho' Obama less so), and it's an important issue to the community. so there's that.
wow… here come the reactionaries, claiming their love for MLK. If you were so in favor of racial harmony, you wouldn't get so worked up when someone calls it like it is: People don't know how to talk about race in this country, and yes, racism is alive in well in America. If you can't see that and are saying "oh, I don't see color", you aren't being honest. If you aren't a coward good for you. But the defensiveness of this article and the bloggers here leave me wondering how authentic you are about really taking racism on by the horns…
Reactionary? You'd better believe it.
I, for one, will not sit here and be called cowards and racists by someone in our government. I also will not bow to the views of those who say I must spend the rest of my life apologizing for slavery, even though I was not even alive when that went on.
Most people do not look at race or color. It is people such as yourself that keep bringing it up, and then in turn call US the racists when we dare to speak up and defend ourselves against such slander.
Reactionary? You'd better believe it.
I, for one, will not sit here and be called a coward and a racist by someone in our government. I also will not bow to the views of those who say I must spend the rest of my life apologizing for slavery, even though I was not even alive when that went on.
Most people do not look at race or color. It is people such as yourself that keep bringing it up, and then in turn call US the racists when we dare to speak up and defend ourselves against such slander.
Riiiiight. You don't "look at race". Like that is possible. Look, Holder isn't saying "apologize for slavery, Whitey", he is saying that we act like we've reached some perfect harmony, and we haven't. He is saying that we, as a nation, still tend to segregate ourselves, that we don't really reach out and understand others who appear different. You can pretend you don't see race all you want. That is exactly the problem. We DO see race, we DO have stereotypes in many areas of life, and it takes commitment to communication and self reflection to become a society that truly understands this. Your self admitted reactionary stance only reveals fear. Eric Holder isn't saying YOU are a coward. He is saying WE HAVE BEEN COWARDLY COLLECTIVELY. You don't need to let personal pride cloud your thinking so much. THis isn't about you, its about our country.
You don't know anything about me. (Especially since I'm not even white.)
Until you can learn to speak to people properly, you can go scream at someone else.
And you can take your misplaced guilt with you. I will not take part in it.
I agree with much of what you said, Harley, but you're still wrong on the Prop 8 thing. The numbers (more than one set) clearly showed that Whites voted against it (in a close call) while minorities voted against it. I know you dispute this, but that doesn't make it a myth. In fact, it's been widely reported for most of my life that when it comes to homosexuality, Blacks are more Conservative than Whites (especially Church-going Blacks). If you want to cite your polls, I'll read them, but I've seen ones that dispute it, and I believe in what I see in person (unless I see definitive proof to the contrary).
As for the Religious Right, personally I'm glad that they don't get everything they want. I'm always uncomfortable with too much interference in politics from someone's belief system (since there's so much disagreement in the Christian Church, let alone all other faiths and non-believers). They should support who is closest, but people like Dobson annoy me to no end (I think he's a pompous, arrogant ass, and he should feel guilty for every abortion that happens here and abroad that wouldn't have under McCain because of his obnoxiousness during the primaries). I still think it's a bad comparison because religion is a set of beliefs, and skin color is anything but that. It's dangerous to think that all of any nationality, race, or sexual orientation should believe in monolithic manner. It's a short step from there to saying anyone who doesn't toe the line is a traitor (or far worse).
I agree with much of what you said, Harley, but you're still wrong on the Prop 8 thing. The numbers (more than one set) clearly showed that Whites voted against it (in a close call) while minorities voted against it. I know you dispute this, but that doesn't make it a myth. In fact, it's been widely reported for most of my life that when it comes to homosexuality, Blacks are more Conservative than Whites (especially Church-going Blacks). If you want to cite your polls, I'll read them, but I've seen ones that dispute it, and I believe in what I see in person (unless I see definitive proof to the contrary).
As for the Religious Right, personally I'm glad that they don't get everything they want. I'm always uncomfortable with too much interference in politics from someone's belief system (since there's so much disagreement in the Christian Church, let alone all other faiths and non-believers). They should support who is closest to their beliefs, but people like Dobson annoy me to no end (I think he's a pompous, arrogant ass, and he should feel guilty for every abortion that happens here and abroad that wouldn't have under McCain because of his obnoxiousness during the primaries). I still think it's a bad comparison because religion is a set of beliefs, and skin color is anything but that. It's dangerous to think that all of any nationality, race, or sexual orientation should believe in monolithic manner. It's a short step from there to saying anyone who doesn't toe the line is a traitor (or far worse).
So I'm an idiot for being factually correct? That's an interesting belief system you've got going there.
From Wikipedia….
{i}Slavery in the United States began soon after English colonists first settled Virginia in 1607 and lasted as a legal institution until the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1865.
Before the widespread establishment of chattel slavery, much labor was organized under a system of bonded labor known as indentured servitude. This typically lasted for several years for white and black alike, and it was a means of using labor to pay the costs of transporting people to the colonies.[1] By the 18th century, court rulings established the racial basis of the American incarnation of slavery to apply chiefly to Black Africans and people of African descent, and occasionally to Native Americans. A 1705 Virginia law stated slavery would apply to those peoples from nations that were not Christian.[2] In part because of the success of tobacco as a cash crop in the Southern colonies, its labor-intensive character caused planters to import more slaves for labor by the end of the 17th century than did the northern colonies. The South had a significantly higher number and proportion of slaves in the population.[1] Religious differences contributed to this geographic disparity as well.
From 1654 until 1865, slavery for life was legal within the boundaries of much of the present United States.[3] Most slaves were black and were held by whites, although some Native Americans and free blacks also held slaves; there were a small number of white slaves as well. {/i}
So depending on your POV regarding what qualifies as slavery, it's 210 – 260 years, and not only were blacks not the sole slaves, but some blacks owned slaves as well (not to mention the Africans who sold their brothers and sisters into slavery).
LOL! People give you facts but THEY are the idiots?
LOL! People give you facts but THEY are the idiots?
The only thing you know how to do is call people names. Wah, wah, baby cry.
Be gone already.
When my daughter was 5, I took her to a video game/miniature golf arcade. There was a nice looking (and I mean really attractive…..we're talking Tiger Woods and Beyonce here) black couple with two little boys a few holes in front of us. My daughter, being the Queen of stating the politically incorrect (but sweet) said loudly, "I like your skin!"
I could have crawled into the nearest bunker and buried myself. Thankfully, they smiled and continued on instead of looking at me like I was David Duke incarnate. I carefully tried to explain why she might want to avoid that particular compliment in the future.
Amen and amen. Mr. Graham is spot on. Eric Holder is trying to stir some stuff.
Okay. The Prop 8 polls I saw put religiosity as the primary driver, but I don't disagree re the black vote generally and church-going black voters specifically. I just think the blame-game in the aftermath was based on exaggeration.
Naturally, I agree re Dobson.
As for monolithic voting blocs, okay. But it's human nature to seek affinity, and that goes for politics as well. It's not hard to understand why a gay man or woman would vote Democratic. Or why a pro-life man or woman would vote Republican. Making generalizations about ethnic groups is much trickier, and you're right, even dangerous in some cases when it comes to voting patterns.
Forest,
Observaton: Ironic that the generation which participated in or at least wittnessed the Civil Rights movement seems to have morphed into their parents: old and angry. It's tiresome. Old Black Man fires a shot over the bow. Old White Man returns fire. Even the President admitted that there is a generation of African American men for whom racisim along with the fear and anger associated with racisim is still a clear and present danger no matter what gains are made, which, of course, brings out the angry White man usually of similiar age for whom no matter what the gain will forever feel slighted. Eventually, their generation will pass along with their anger. Meanwhile, generations of younger Americans long since removed from the fire hoses and dogs of Bull Conner and the rallying cry of Malcom X are marrying and breeding regardless of color. I suspect that a couple of hundred years from now Americans will look quite different.
I agree with his sentiment, unfortunately this statement: "At my favorite Baptist Church in North Hollywood, the congregation being 90% Black" kinda makes me go HMMM.
here's the Demographic of N.Hollywood:
Total Population: 57,129
White Population: 25,945
Black Population: 1,680
Hispanic Population: 36,811
90% Black? What are they busing folks in from Watts? Maybe he meant to say "white" but then he deserves a ding for not proofreading.
We are all Marshall too.
Give me a break. You don't know anything about any of us. I would have a chat about race (whatever that means) with Mr. Holder anytime he wants. I don't know what that would accomplish but hey, I am game.
98% or so black voters voted for Obama. Does that make them racist? If 98% of white voters voted for McCain. Does that make them racist?
Go ask Al Sharpton , Jesse Jackson and the like. Bet you know the answer to that.
By the way, MLK was an OK dude. Liking him or not means nothing. How you conduct yourself everyday does. My conscience is clear.
Yours?
I've been a school teacher for the past 30+ years, and my dear ERASMUS,, we have NEVER spent an entire month teaching about "Irish History Month" or "German History Month". We've never spent a month discussing "Indian History Month"…!! Perhaps racism exists because there are those who won't allow it to die????? (surely I do not need to name 'names')…… I have to agree with Phil Gramm, we are a nation of "whiners"…………and I must admit that I'm getting sick and tired of beating the same ole 'whining' dog to death year after year……………………….
Touché! “Brevity is the soul of wit.”
Let me get this straight…Because as a white man I can empathize with the plight of non-whites in our society and can see evidence of racism everyday, I am a racist? And am wallowing in guilt(or should)?
Firstly, I am not proud to be white, nor am I ashamed. I was born white. Not much of an accomplishment. So when I come across white "racist pigs", I may feel sad or get pissed, but I never feel guilty. I am an individual. No one else "represents" me or my beliefs.
Secondly, I don't feel threatened by a Black History Month when I'm exposed to 11 months of white history. It would do us all some good to learn about other cultures. And I learn a lot during Black History Month.
While in Kinshasa,Zaire for a boxing match,Muhammed Ali was heard to say: "I amsure glad my folks caught that boat!"
Understatement of the decade: "MLK was an OK dude".
Yah, my conscience is clear.
Whether you are white, brown, caramel, black, pink… I just don't understand why you take such issue with a leader having the courage to say "hey, we as a country haven't reached the promised land of racial harmony". We wave our flag of unity, but often are a country divided. And hiding behind our "live and let live" or "to each his own" philosophy won't change that… so in its own way, that is a cowardly place for us to leave it. He's challenging the people of this nation to address racism head on. Black on White, White on Black, Brown on Black… it's all something that keeps us from reaching our full potential. Thats what I think, anyway. But clearly this article and the cheering chorus for it are of a different mind. Thats fine. If we all had the same opinion, there wouldn't be much of a plot, would there?
PS- the capital letters were meant as emphasis, not yelling. My apologies if you felt i was 'yelling'.. not my intent
I don't believe the argument has anything to do with it being exclusionary; it has to do with the fact that blacks do extraordinary things all the time, just as whites and hispanics do, so why is there this one month that says "You guys are great, but just for this month?" The exclusionary part is that it comes in only one month, rather than each day that blacks accomplish extraordinary things. These days, just keeping a family together and raising your kids to adulthood counts as extraordinary no matter what race you are.
Thanks. Simple logic sometimes suffices.
Fabulous article.
"I, like many in my generation, have been fortunate in my life and have had a great number of wonderful opportunities. Some may consider me to be a part of WHITE history. But we do a great disservice to the concept of WHITE history recognition if we fail to understand that any success that I have had, cannot be viewed in isolation. I stood, and stand, on the shoulders of many other WHITE Americans [....] as I hope that others will some day stand on my more narrow ones." — White Dude
Sounds kinda racist with just ONE word substituted in there, doesn't it? When are you guys gonna get your collective heads out of your ass long enough to realize how stupid and self-defeating all your racism sounds to rational people? To evaluate one's accomplishements within the context of race…is to insult the spark of individual genius that executed that accolmplishment. There had to be the trailblazers, and i salute them. But come on…Black, history, Black studies, Black Congressional Caucus, Black Entertainment Television, Black, Black, Black, , Black!!!! It's racist. Shut up about it, treat eveyone the way you'd like to be treated…and maybe, just maybe, racism will finally go away.
But as long as folks like you draw breath…I'm not holding mine.
I just read it. And it is 2300 words….too long.
Anybody got some Pepto Bismol?
Amen and amen. LOL!
[...] we are trying to avoid being called racist. So, when Attorney General Eric Holder said we were a nation of cowards when it comes to race, he was partly [...]
Fine-point —
You make a …well, a really fine point. HA!! the clouds parted, and a ray of light shone through. THANK YOU for bringing a grin to this tired face after wading through so much race-talk bilge water. (I'm thinking, What the hell did i start?? Oh yeah, I didn't start it, Holder started it!) I've always thought and still do, that I'd rather have some deep root canal work done with no novacaine than "engage in a spirited and honest discussion about race in America." Gaggggg…..
Are you kidding. This article was so full of bs it was exhausting, according to this it seems the only people that aren't racist are blacks. His research is all biased at best and insulting. Most notably as according to this guy only black/white racism matters.
Holder and his crap, of course we split up into our races on weekends. Most people spend their weekends with their famiy and for the most part their family is their same race. I'm waiting for him to start a new law that will require us to register a list of our friends so they can make sure we're each integrated enough according to their definition.
At this point I am so over discussing race. It's just not worth it, try REALLY discussing race with a black person and you will get nowhere. As far as they're concerned we (all other colors) will never understand how it feels to be black and until we just agree with everything they say we will all be racist. The victimization of the black race has served them well over the last 40 years and they're not going to let it go………………
Are you kidding. This article was so full of bs it was exhausting, according to this it seems the only people that aren't racist are blacks. His research is all biased at best and insulting. Most notably as according to this guy only black/white racism matters.
Holder and his crap, of course we split up into our races on weekends. Most people spend their weekends with their famiy and for the most part their family is their same race. I'm waiting for him to start a new law that will require us to register a list of our friends so they can make sure we're each integrated enough according to their definition.
At this point I am so over discussing race. It's just not worth it, try REALLY discussing race with a black person and you will get nowhere. As far as they're concerned we (all other colors) will never understand how it feels to be black and until we just agree with everything they say we will all be racist. The victimization of the black race has served them well over the last 40 years and they're not going to let it go………………
Benno… Collectivists like you will never glean the full meaning from my piece…and I expected as much. You don't see people as individuals…but as collective groups. This is your folly…and your threat. I, as an individual, am threatened by any 'group-think', because I am by definition, outnumbered. Mob rule says that any right I may claim for myself can be instantly nullified by feat by the group, if they so desire.
Lefties like you and Mr. Holder LOVE to talk about race, because an aggrieved victimhood is from whence you derive your power and control over the rest of us. We must surrender increasingly more and more of our property to the government to right the perceived wrongs of the past, dontcha know… some group has been wronged, and restitution must be rendered.
It wouldn't do for an anachronistic and evil concept of racism to simply die its natural death by ignorance… and thereby remove a lynchpin in the Liberal power base.
sorry…nullified by 'fiat'.
The First Babtist Church of North Hollywood — just off of Lankershim. Go there some time, you'll love it. Sunday services at 10:00am. You take a head count and do your own assessment. It's just an estimate on racial percentage, because i don't really pay attention that much,.. but see if I'm not accurate. Give Pastor Woodcock my regards, he's a dear friend.
I am in the middle of reading your essay, ONE PISSED-OFF DUDE.
Thank you so much for having the guts to speak out! I cannot tell you how many conservatives I know who just sit back and take everything this culture throws at them and say absolutely nothing because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
It's time we stood up for what is right. Thank you for doing that. (And in Hollywood, where the pressure is tenfold to be silent and just go with the flow.)
This culture is like high school. The "cool crowd" sets the standard and God help you if you don't fit in and follow everything they say. It's time we started fighting back.
The point being missed here is that Mr. Holder was not calling "only" white people cowards, he was calling blacks cowards, too. I agree with him. AS an American citizen, Viet Nam Era, Honorably discharged Veteran who happens to be covered with brown skin, who also has many, many white friends I understand exactly what he is talking about. Over the years some of m white friends and I have had many deep conversations about racism. We would be out to dinner with our children vigorously discussing these issues, What I came away with was the fact that because we are both so very ignorant of each others true feelings that we often offend without intention or awareness. So, YES we need to talk more and talk and talk until we unlearn th acts we feel are innocuous when they are really offensive.
Given the state of race relations since Obama wormed his way into the picture, I have become a racist and I am proud of it. I have already had enough of the Obamas, Winfreys, Holders. Goldbergs, Sharktons, Jacksons,and all the rest. This bunch of whining complainers needs to catch the next flight to Africa and stay there. And take the NAACP along, please.
400 Years of slavery? You might want to recheck your history books.
Slavery was bad enough….we don't need to pretend it was longer than it was (or that Africans didn't freely participate in the slave trade, both with us and many other nations).
I just had a person write me and say that she thinks they all can simply take a flight to Africa. That’s interesting. I’ve had people say that to me in the past. You see the thing is I was born in Chicago. My parents were born in Alabama, as were my grandparents and great-grandparents. It is this type of ignorant thinking, put to words that is the root of the racial problems in this country. Simply because one does not agree with you, you want to take away their citizenship, deny the sacrifices they have made for this country and send them to some far-off land they have no identity with. I did not come from Africa. I have never been to Africa, which is a definite prerequisite in order to “go back” to Africa. On the contrary I am a proud American who has served his country, with valor, in several positions. Racism is nothing more than a person with an inferiority complex attempting to justify their reason for existing by putting someone else down. The problem here is that person needs mental health treatment to deal with their own feelings of “less than others”. The truth is God did not make people less than or better than others. He just made people, period! ______
And another thing….is this what you expend your energy and the precious oxygen God gives you thinking about? I would strongly encourage you to contribute to life as opposed to tearing others down. Anyone who speaks in this manner was already a racist. George Bush's election was filled with so much controversy it had to be awarded via the Supreme court. Obama won a majority, no dispute but he "wormed his way in". Spoken like a true certified racist if ever there was one.
Hear, Hear!
"Sounds kinda racist with just ONE word substituted in there, doesn't it?"
It does sound grateful, which was the point.
People can focus on areas of disagreement and continue to argue to no end, or they can focus on areas of agreement — in the case of you and Eric Holder, that would be the desirability of integrating black history into the general curriculum and doing away with artifice — and work towards a rapprochement. Build your house on a rock, not on sand.
Me, I hate futility.
I'm very glad to hear it. Now you disagree with what he said, rather than with what someone told you he said — even if you think the soundbite was an accurate precis. The importance of this cannot be overstated.
LOL! As I read your rantings, I knew it was only a matter of minutes before you started yelling, 'RACIST!'
Same old, same old.
Wow, I'm astounded… You attack 'liberals' and 'lefties' for groupthink but forget to include 'conservatives' and 'neocons'? You've got to be kidding me! Jesus this, Jesus that, Abortion Bad, Phil Gramm good, blah blah blah. The mob rule that let us to a wasteful war? Surrendering property to the government gets your goat, but not your civil liberties or something? Yah, I do feel we should think, not as a group, but we should think about the welfare of the group. We are a nation of individuals maybe, but I for one, care about the welfare of my fellow Americans, conservative or liberal. And part of thinking about the whole includes an ongoing conversation about race, imao. Man… anyone who thinks we've got it all figured out already isn't paying attention. But go ahead and be your own man, because its all about you, the individual, right? Screw the rest of the country! America, the great nation of individuals… why do all you conservatives loves that sticker on your SUV's "United We Stand?" Slogans over substance…. Whatever. I'll still be willing to pay some taxes so your mother can get social security. You're welcome.
"Deviating from the established pattern is difficult."
Exactly.
What a string of nonsensical sentences.
"But they don't constantly go on about it."
They used to, but nobody really noticed. It was the Seventies, and they were lost amid the other protests. Also there weren't enough of them for anyone to care about (827,000). But they're on the increase now; census.gov projects they'll be 1% of the population in 2050. They'll probably be heard from more in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobell_v._Kempthorne
"And there is no special treatment for them."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Indian_Aff...
I've noticed a trend in which the liberals who troll this site pop up after a post has been up a day or two and lost traffic to new topics. That's when they pop in and decide to argue their points. Well, that's not true. That's when they pop in and throw out a bunch of nonsense and rhetoric– when just about any absurd comment can go by mostly unnoticed. It's usually the really lame arguments that come out at this point because it's the really gutless and ill-informed trolls who wait until there is no one left to fight back.
Or a combination of heavy traffic and maintenance. Even some of Gary's comments were eaten when they shanged to the new architecture.
So I'm an idiot for being factually correct? That's an interesting belief system you've got going there.
From Wikipedia….
Slavery in the United States began soon after English colonists first settled Virginia in 1607 and lasted as a legal institution until the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1865.
Before the widespread establishment of chattel slavery, much labor was organized under a system of bonded labor known as indentured servitude. This typically lasted for several years for white and black alike, and it was a means of using labor to pay the costs of transporting people to the colonies. By the 18th century, court rulings established the racial basis of the American incarnation of slavery to apply chiefly to Black Africans and people of African descent, and occasionally to Native Americans. A 1705 Virginia law stated slavery would apply to those peoples from nations that were not Christian. In part because of the success of tobacco as a cash crop in the Southern colonies, its labor-intensive character caused planters to import more slaves for labor by the end of the 17th century than did the northern colonies. The South had a significantly higher number and proportion of slaves in the population. Religious differences contributed to this geographic disparity as well.
From 1654 until 1865, slavery for life was legal within the boundaries of much of the present United States. Most slaves were black and were held by whites, although some Native Americans and free blacks also held slaves; there were a small number of white slaves as well.
So depending on your POV regarding what qualifies as slavery, it's 210 – 260 years, and not only were blacks not the only ones enslaved, but some blacks owned slaves as well (not to mention the Africans who sold their brothers and sisters into slavery).
It is what it is! Your logic negates commonsense. First my writing is not ranting. It is a conversation. Secondly, if I see racism I am not going to deny it because you might make fun of it.
According to the exit polls I've seen, Obama got about a 5 point race-based uptick among black voters. (90% chose Gore in 2000, 88% Kerry in 2004, 95% Obama in 2008.)
White voters went from 42% for Gore to 41% for Kerry to 43% for Obama, so if they'd gone 98% for McCain, yes, that would probably be racist.
I won't be surprised an iota if it turns out that whites pretty much aren't racist but tend to act that way out of illusory peer pressure. "It's all in science-fiction, all in science-fiction, dear me what are they teaching them in school these days…" — Prof Digory Tiberius Kirke
It depends on the Church. If there are only 100 people attending a service, it's not hard to imagine most of them being of a minority. I've attended Black Churches in the past, and my grandmother (the single whitest person in the history of mankind) played pipe organ for one for years. They are great to attend, as long as you don't wind up in the Jeremiah Wright kind (where they say the government invented AIDS to kill black people). The people in the Churches I went to were very passionate and completely unafraid of showing what they were feeling (and dancing was practically required).
Jesse Jackson admitted to sneaking a look behind him on a dark night and being relieved to discover the guy approaching was white.
But the decapitators get all the press.
Des,
I'm not black but have tan skin (coming from my Alaskan Indian lineage).
If your daughter would have said that to me, I would have taken it for the compliment it was intended. I'm sure they did, too. Albeit, as a parent…I can understand how you felt.
On top of that, somewhere I read an estimate that it took only ten thousand years to switch off the melanin, once the African explorers had spread up into the low-sunlight areas.
I.E., he doesn't understand that he's on your side. I've seen quite a few arguments boil down to people violently agreeing with each other because they pay more attention to words than meaning.
Gary,
Since you are on the hook, meaning you are reading…I just want to let you know that I appreciate your response to Eric Holder. Reading his insulting remarks, took away the air that I breath. So-to-speak.
It was an insult to me-to all Americans. He's out of touch.
judge not by the colour of skin by content of character does not mean you if ia white man walk into a bar does not mean I wont notice he is white…that is a perversion of reality. It just means i wont think "o he is a blue eyed devil". so I am not judging him because he is white but I can acknowledge that he is. That all black people want to see that yes we are black but hey we are not gang bangers, pimps or sexual demon. Dont judge me for being black but recognise that I am. And we can move forward in a non racial way!!
And to the silent person who scored that reply down a point: you're right, I should have provided more context. So:
"What are the facts? Again and again and again — what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars foretell," avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable "verdict of history" — what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!"
–Robert A. Heinlein
The timing was terrible too. Right now what is on people's minds is the economy. People of all races are losing their jobs and worrying about where the next paycheck is coming from. So its not exactly the best time to bring up an issue like racism and challenging people who are already stressed out with phrases like "nation of cowards".
Gary, you of all people should empathize with someone who ocassionally goes over the top in the service of a larger, thoughtful point.
Unlike some of your fans, though, you actually come across as a pretty good egg with his heart in the right place.
Your defensiveness and professions of colourblindness illustrate Holder's point perfectly. No one is actually "colourblind," and the fiction that we should even aspire to that state is purest delusion.
Everyone's a little bit racist. Me, you, we all are. We are probably genetically hardwired to discriminate, to make instant evaluations without even thinking about them. That doesn't mean we are all horrible oppressors, it just means that Freud was right, and there's plenty brewing under the surface of consciousness that goes largely undiscussed. Holder's point is a basic observance on human nature, supported by psychology and sociology: we tend to avoid or ignore things that don't jibe with the world we want to see.
In case anyone missed it, Holder was saying that all ethnic groups – white, black, Latino – are guilty of this cowardice. We all avoid the subject of race because it tends to make us feel uncomfortable. Read Charles Blow's column in the NY Times today about research into implicit racism. Enlightening stuff.
If you don't read the NY Times because you are certain it is staffed by Trotskyites, then I will leave the recognition of that particular irony to the individual reader.
Great comment! I really enjoy your clear writing.
You haven't give me a single fact and if you're referring to Des he made a statement based in opinion not fact geez! And you still haven't answered my question.
Des,
Please attempt to follow the argument I didn't say blacks were the only ones enslaved I said that Black Slavery was a unique phenomenon. Meaning that there is no equivalence to that American experience.
Okay for sake of argument 260 to 270 years of Black American Slavery took place in America starting in 1607 as your source indicates and ending nearly completely in 1877 (yes I know that officially the Emancipation Proclamation was in effect January 1 1863) yet throughout the country many slaves didn’t learn of their freedom until 1865 and of course not every slave owner came into immediate compliance with the law.
So Legally, slaves were freed in Kentucky by the final ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution in December 1865. Slaves still held in New Jersey, Delaware, West Virginia, Maryland, Missouri and Washington, D.C. also became legally free on this date.–Wikipedia
However according to other sources the process of freeing slaves was not fully complete until 1877 (see source)
Your problem is that you don’t account for the 53 years thereafter where Jim Crow laws where instituted to put and keep Blacks in a state of subservience. That’s 270 years of hard core Black slavery plus 53 years of Jim Crow lynchings and terrorism against Blacks for a combined 323 years of terrorism and destruction against a people. So I admit I overstated the years originally however you attempted to mitigate Black Slavery as something that others when through in America also. (source) and here
And though you feebly attempt to show that there were others besides black people who where enslaved in American history there is no equivalency to the process of which blacks were wholesaled shipped by the millions across the Atlantic Ocean and kept in racial designated slavery. No other group of people did that happen to. Not the Indians, not the Chinese and not the Mexicans. No other people, so as I said chattel slavery will forever remain a unique phenomenon that happen to Black people in America!
I think AG Holder is like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, for them its not about what you or I understand, its about money, or politics, or power. Al sharpton has become a very wealthy man off of his racism, for AG Holder, I think its a means for him to gain more power.
I'm glad you pointed out those two false arguements from the Bible, by the way, Its always good when some one else understands that those arguements are, well, false.
That was an ugly moment of history, no doubt about it. Sadly, those who could have put a stop to it didn't, and it led to the problems that existed up until the 60's and 70's.
On a side note about racism in America and the slaves themselves, I recommend people read "Bullwhip Days" by James Mellon. Its a collection of narratives from former slaves taken in the 1930's. It will really open the eyes of people on both sides of the current debate.
But Facts do not speak for themselves, they must be interperted. For instance, in Ohio we have burial mounds from what are called the Adena people. We have no written records or histories from these people, so everything we learn about them comes from physical evidence. Fact: We find burial mounds with headless bodies that were not intrusive burials. What that means depends on your assumptions about Native Americans.
One's view of the progress of the race issue in America depends upon your interpretation of the facts. Men like AG holder may not think that it has progressed that far, where as another, such as MBS1960 may think it has gone farther, and some one like me believes race should be a non-issue period.
"(I'm thinking, What the hell did i start?? Oh yeah, I didn't start it, Holder started it!)"
Remember that. My parents raised me to not start fights, but if some one else takes a swing, that I was expected to fight back. That's all you're doing. Some one took at a swing at you (and many other Americans, calling us cowards) and you're just swinging back. Keep fighting!
I agree, "MLK was an OK dude" does win for understatement of the decade.
OK, but there are still some questions about the way you're phrasing your argument. According to the same source, only 645,000 people were shipped from Africa to the US, while the total number shipped to the Americas was 12,000,000 (most to Brazil). So while slavery (and the post slavery bigotry) was horrible, it certainly wasn't a uniquely American problem. I don't know how long other countries dealt with the aftermath, but when the argument gets made, it often sounds like people are trying to single out America as the pinnacle of the slave trade.
When you are talking about the "American experience" of blacks during that time frame, you also have to remember that not all the states practiced slavery for that time period (and not all black people living here were victims of slavery). It was a barbaric practice that was condemned and overturned by the blood of hundreds of thousands of people (mostly white). That doesn't justify what came before or after, but the constant need for us to be reminded that everything is our fault, despite the fact that none of us were alive to deal with the question, and many of us never even had ancestors that lived here to deal with it.
My problem is not with saying slavery and racist laws were awful, because they were. My problem is people who've made their entire careers on keeping the subject alive and using it as a crutch to explain away the problem of current people who should be improving their position in life, but instead are staying stagnant or even falling further behind. We're not the only nation to be involved in racism, but we seem to be the only one that can't find a way to put it in the past and try to work on tomorrow instead.
But you have to get them before you interpret them. Otherwise it's not interpretation but speculation.
[...] I’m a Racist Coward by Gary Graham [...]
Thanks, really. I will look over these.
Your underlying premise is flawed. You assert, by inuendo, that there has been a whole disconnect in the telling of history to make any mention of the contributions of Black Americans. Nonsense, sir. History is replete with Black accomplishments, along with accomplishments of people of all colors, including whites.
Benno, my boy. I think perhaps you're less astounded…than confused. Reading the FEDERALIST PAPERS could shed some light. Also, THE LAW by John Locke, WEALTH & POVERTY by George Gilder, and if your feeling adventurous, ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand, a true classic. To top off this brain-salad, read HOW TO FRAME A COGENT & COHESIVE SENTENCE by Gary Graham.
sorry, I made that last one up.
And my mother gets a monthly social security check, paltry though it is, in need of supplementation by myself and my siblings; but the social security was paid into by my father's exorbitant yearly tax bill. If he had been free to KEEP that money absconded forcibly by the government (in our 'voluntary' graduated tax system), and instead of having the government hold on to it for thirty years, but rather INVEST IT in a safe money market fund, she would be a multi millionaire. Therein lies our parting of core beliefs, my friend: You believe in GOVERNMENT to solve your problems. I believe in PEOPLE to solve their own problems. The endgame for your philosophy can be seen today in Communist China and Cuba. The result of conservative thinking has given us the nation of America. You can see why we get vexed to see collectivists hastening to dismantle it.
Benno, you don't get it, never will, don't know why i waste time responding, but…since others read this, here goes: Yes, we love MLK, because of his message, which you clearly DON'T GET. Of course we see color! It's all around us, doofus. But COLOR doesn't MATTER! That's MLK's whole point, which all of you on the Left can't quite seem to grasp. Are you simple? Once again — we see it as moral to judge a person on the content of their character, and not by the color of their skin. MLK's words. The less we talk about racism, the less we even give it the time of day…the quicker it will dissapate and go away. So…if I am true to my convictions…I will not respond to you any more…and maybe you will…go away.
Sure sure. So I don't edit my blog posts, alas. You know, your list of intellectually stimulating books doesn't somehow give you a leg up on me or anyone else in staking out who is the better American, or the most clever individual, or the greatest debater. This isn't a pissing contest. I've read plenty of books and writings too. Thoreau, Emerson, Jefferson, Fredrick Douglass, Alex Haley… hey, how about some Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Huxley, and Orwell for some interesting angles on culture, government, society, and the struggle between groupthink (or non-think as it were) and individualism. You see, I support your idea of individual thought being precious, but I also support the notion that if we, as individuals, want to benefit from a larger society, we have to at some point work with others for a greater goal than simply tickling our own intellectual curiosities and sounding off in our righteous indignation. And when it comes to examining the American situation in 2009, I'm sorry, but I simply do not agree that black, white, asian, latino, religious, non-religious (etc.) have really worked out our differences. So, how do we do that? Maybe there is no way. But ONE essential piece in the process is to have real dialogue within our society between various groups. And to avoid real dialogue may, like Mr. Holder suggests, seem like cowardice. Maybe there are better, more constructive words he could have used than "cowards". But judging by the hornets nest of outrage I'm reading here, maybe he hit a nerve that needed hitting? Anyway, attempting to discredit my voice because you've read lots of fancy titled books by dead white men (and women) doesn't really help our disagreement. If I read "The Law" will you read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (a must read for any true American scholar)? I do admire much of Locke's thinking… mabye we aren't so different? In fact, we are both educated white men in America… Now, if you'll refrain from insulting me, I will do likewise. Good day.
You are a better person than I am, Gary. Even trying to follow this person's train of thought was difficult, much less trying to forumulate any sort of response to their gibberish.
I see your logic. I do! Don't talk about race, diminish the importance of race, 'racism' will fade and die. Sir, I see your logic. But, there is a big emotional/experiential void here. We know the statistics that link poverty and crime. We know the statistics about poverty and race in America. Sooo, if you are black and have more chance of living in poverty, is it because of an inherent trait in being black? Or because some societal system? Racism? Why are blacks more likely to experience poverty in America than whites? And therefore, have less opportunity for success? You can ignore race all you want, but when you have millions of people saying, "hey, whats with this situation?" and your response is "nya nya nya, i don't see race, I'm a successful white man, I love everybody…" how is that facing the reality of our situation? You say I "clearly DONT GET IT". Well, it seems I can say the same of you. I grew up on a racially diverse block. Everyone was poor. Gang activity all over. Out of the black, white, hispanic, Indian, Russian, Native American families, who were the poorest? BY FAR? The Native Americans, just like the national statistics. And I watched their son, one of the nicer guys on the block, get put in jail on trumped up charged for 10 years, for a crime that would have landed me with probation, mabye 6 months. So don't tell me that ignoring these problems will make it go away. You've got your head up the ass.
So Gary…what are you 55? What were they "black history" were they teaching you in your school days? A little Carver perhaps? Slavery? They certainly didn't teach you the meaning of the word replete.
You know I read that as well and thought, well show me someone who has written a book and hasn't appeared on the NY Time bestseller list; now that would be impressive. I wonder if his sales will spike after mentioning it here?
History-as-event is not history-as-narrative. The history textbooks used when you were in high school were godawful —
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ED017586...
– the ones prior to that even worse. (Today's? I've been poking Google for two hours and both sides are angry about them. At least technology will make complaints about omissions obsolete…)
I didn't ask you. I asked Breitbart. I never get accused of being a racist and I wonder why he does. Apparently all the time according to him. Might be something to do with him. Or maybe he never does and is just full of it.
Fixed it for ya
Actually, not so much. We were taught the War of Yankee Agression was about state's rights, the biggest of which was slavery. The South was also pro-small government, while the North was all for a huge federal government, with states losing individual power. Always, in every history class, every day, "Slavery was and is wrong." The Civil War was brewing for years before battle was joined. Slavery was just a catalyst. Honestly, I don't think another civil war is far off. As divided as this country is, and with neither side willing to acknowledge the other's viewpoint, violence will probably be the only answer.
Furthermore, Black History month IS racist. Promoting one race above others, regardless of what the race is, is racist. Give me a White History Month, a Navajo History Month, and Cherokee History Month, a Ho-Chunk History Month, and Iriquois History Month, an Irish History Month, a German History Month, a Polish History Month, etc, and we'll talk.
The argument for Black History Month is that students aren't taught about important black people in regular classes. I remember spending a lot of time on MLK and Malcom X in history, and in English, and not in February. The invention of Peanut butter did not come up much in Science or History, so George Washington Carver would probably be relegated to the forgotten archives of history but for February. On the other hand, I've got no idea who invented jelly, or bread, or plates, or peanut brittle, so, as for Mr Carver-so what if he's forgotten?
The only white inventor mentioned specifically for his invention in school (that I remember) is Eli Whitney. Ben Franklin gets a byline for spectacles and the stove, but mostly we study his statesmanship.
sorry, man. didn't mean to insult. i rather detest the emoticons, and abbrevs like LOL and LMAO, etc… but often a tongue in cheek or gentle jibe gets missed without them. anyway I agree with you that yes, we probably are a lot more alike than either of us imagine. BURY MY HEART is wonderful, as if 1984, CATCH 22, BRAVE NEW WORLD (and REVISITED), WALDEN'S POND, anything by Emerson, i haven't read Douglas, and only saw ROOTS the miniseries on TV. Reading is a joy.
And I love the notion of talking about anything…as individuals. And I agree with you that groupthink is non-think…in which generalized and pleasant, positive-sounding slogans suffice for intellectual discourse. Yes we can…get the change we need. The Repub's are guilty of it to: Country First…Drill, baby drill. We serve ourselves, and our society better, I think, when we view our nation as a very large single group…of individuals…consisting of the endless myriad of possibilities and innovations. The masses in movement tends toward a mob mentality. Our problems, and our solutions, can be served best one-on-one, face to face. People are like snowflakes, no two are alike. Groupthink absolves an individual of responsibility and hence, is destructive to initiative. What was once formed out of grievance and fervor to right a legitimate wrong, soon devolves into a plodding ravenous leviathon committed to none but its own feeding.
But man — thanks for this dialogue, i love it! We have contention, but we also have many points of agreement, brotherman.
Anyone remember the movie Bulworth? Everyone just needs to ^&*( everyone until we're all the same color.
My wife and I took this thought from that movie: Liberals and Conservatives see the same problems with America. So why is it impossible to agree on anything that can solve them?
It's a good point, and I agree with your logic, Gerard. But really, it's not as relevant or as important as other things. If he has to come up in front of a judge for something (like perjury, or screwing an intern), it would be icing on the cake for the prosecution. But right now, it does look like conservative mudslinging. (Evan though I agree with you 100%.)
The best man at my wedding was black. (He still is, as a matter of fact.) He brought up race once and only once. He said to me: "Man, I got white-boy syndrome." Me: "?" Him: "I got no rhythm." Then we resumed our original conversation about who would win in a fight-one ninja or a half dozen pigmy warriors.
It's Godwin's Law in action, only instead of calling someone Hitler or a Nazi, they just call him racist. It's equally effective, and less likely to get moderated.
Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd's still a democrat, though….
How bout this?
Add some pork to the stimulus for tanning bed coupons. If we're all dark-skinned, bye-bye racism!
So Gary…what are you 55? What "black history" were they teaching you in your school days? A little Carver perhaps? Slavery? They certainly didn't teach you the meaning of the word replete.
Abundantly provided, filled with — replete in terms of history-as-event, sure, why not. (A little strong, maybe; Adam Smith says slaves don't invent labor-saving devices because it will be taken as laziness and get them beaten for their trouble. Which is why you don't get slaves inventing the cotton engine. There's a comment elsewhere from a fellow saying his southern-state history books were clear that slavery was wrong; I wonder if they pointed out that it was also stupid, and defective capitalism to boot.) History-as-written, not so much, since the slaves were largely forbidden to learn to write and so the things they did and had done unto them have vanished except for when the whites happened to take note in the newspapers — "the slaves are in revolt, we must have been too kind to them again", &c.
"What I would like to know is if Mr. Holder is really up for the discussion on race. I would like him to explain how my family owes money to anyone when my relatives came over in the 1890's from Ireland…"
I'm not finding any indication that Eric Holder supports reparations. Martin Luther King Jr did — he suggested $5 billion a year for ten years, and then the subject would have been considered closed.
But MLK had more than one point.
"Many of the ugly pages of American history have been obscured and forgotten. A society is always eager to cover misdeeds with a cloak of forgetfulness, but no society can fully repress an ugly past when the ravages persist into the present." [Where Do We Go From Here, 1967)
"True peace is not merely the absence of tension: it is the presence of justice."
This post is utterly amazing!
At what point did Mr. Holder accuse you or anyone else of being a "racist coward"? Does that combination of words ever appear in his speech.
Let me ask another question. Why, when confronted with issues of race, do so many white people automatically go to: "I have black friends" or "I like Dr. King"? This is exactly what the Attorney General was talking about. Boasting about your personal relationship with a few of the 40+ million blacks in this country does not constitute a conversation on race. That's just you trying to convince everyone you're not racist, which is a remarkable position to take, considering that no one called you a racist.
But that get back to one of my major pet peeves: when whites take every negative thing said by a black person about race as a direct, personal, individual attack against them. Why can't you understand that Holder wasn't accusing any individuals of racism? Why can't you understand the difference among "you're a racist" and "this system is racist" and "let's talk about race"? Have you been so trained to believe that blacks hate whites that you assume everything we say is addressed to you personally?
And then, there's my other issue with what you have written: this whole colorblind thing. It sounds nice and good, but let me ask you this. If you don't see race, and black people get discriminated against, how will you ever know. If you don't see ethnicity, and our government begins to create immigration laws specifically targeted at, shall we say, "browner" nations, how will you know. You have to be willing to confront these issues head on instead of being a coward who hides behind having their feelings hurt over what someone did not say.
Thank you for proving Mr. Holder's point.
Did you even read the speech? Because if you had, you wouldn't be saying these things.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-0...
And you're right, the actual combination of words does not appear in the speech. But obviously that is the message he is getting across. (Which is why I wonder if you even read the thing, since this is so blatant!)
"You have to be willing to confront these issues head on instead of being a coward who hides behind having their feelings hurt over what someone did not say."
Now who is calling someone else a coward?
People such as Holder and by this post I assume yourself seem to think that not being a racist means talking about race and obsessing over race at every turn. In reality, it's exactly the opposite. Those of us who are not racists see no need to be talking about it all the time because we don't think about it all the time.
The point of not being a racist means NOT seeing people's race!
So… as a Catholic, do you celebrate St. George's Day (England's patron saint) I mean, really, why confine yourself to Ireland? But sorry, I'm being a reverse-racist.
Yes, yes they would.
This is because: the current, terrible conditions in Africa are largely caused by the same colonial forces that produced the American Slave Trade. By the way, slavery existed in Africa as well, but it was more communal, and less exploitative.
Of course, if you sent African Americans "back" to Africa, they would be worse off because THEY'RE AMERICAN. That's like sending an American Chinese man "back" to the Asian continent. Not crap he's gonna be worse off, he's ASIAN-AMERICAN, NOT ASIAN.
I would totally believe the last three sentences, if they weren't preceded by the first two.
By the way, my mom is from Ireland and my dad is Chinese. And I DO consider myself to be Irish-American, because that's what I am. Denying your heritage doesn't make your racism less strong, it just makes you look like the "coward" they're talking about above. If you really think that America is a colorblind society, maybe you should walk outside a little more. Don't worry, the sun won't hurt too much.
Sean, you're flat out missing it. You, as Mr Holder does, celebrate diversity. I, on the other hand choose to celebrate unity. The unity of being an American. The more you obsess over diversity, the more you splinter our nation and promote segregation, setting group against group — a concept you seem to imply that you're against. The only reason I mention the race ratio of my church is to demonstrate that this congregation is unified in a single devotion to Christ. Race ain't even a question. We talk about God, and race rarely if ever even comes up. Are we cowards for not talking more about race? I don't think so. I think we're colorblind; untied in our love for our country, our love for Christ.
People are going to congregate with whomever they're going to congregate. You can't make them spend time with people they don't want to spend time with. This 'reaching out' business you speak of, which sounds so lovely and politically correct…is simply what I call being a good neighbor. A fellow human being. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm reaching out to YOU now. The sooner you, and Mr. Holder, stop talking about race, the sooner race will cease to be an issue, and the sooner RACISM will simply go away.
Pull the corncob out yer arse. The title was satire. (google "SATIRE") Jeez, were you sick the day they passes out the humor card? You Libs crack me up. Only true racists are obsessed about race. As for myself, I think it's the most tedious and boring subject anyone can possibly propose…and I would hope that intelligent people would finally get that the only way to make racism go away…is to allow it to go away. But you guys won't. Holder, Sharpton, Jackson…they have a vested interest in stoking the racism flame…it's their power base. But what is your excuse?
And I don't think you hate me. And I certainly don't hate you, I don't even know you. Can't we all just…get along? Racial discrimination…is stupid. Hating people, or treating them with negative deference…is not only morally wrong, it's economically stupid. Likewise…loving someone, and giving them preferential treatment JUST because they are a certain color…is also morally wrong…and economically stupid. I may love you, I may think you're a piece of excrement…but I guaran-damn-tee you it will be soley a judgement upon your character…and not your skin color.
That said, I have no problem with the color of your skin…but the thickness of it. I have been 'discriminated' against my whole life for being a white, Christian male. (Your heart bleeds for me, right?) But in a hundred subtle and not-so-subtle ways I've been on that side of racial hatred and bias. I thought it was wrong then, still do…but I got over it. Water off a ducks back, their loss, not mine. Oh well, life is not a popularity contest.
I refuse to see myself as a victim, or any sort. And therein lies a large source of my personal freedom and power.
That said, I have no problem with the color of your skin…but the thickness of it. I have been 'discriminated' against my whole life for being a white, Christian male. (Your heart bleeds for me, right?) But in a hundred subtle and not-so-subtle ways I've been on that side of racial hatred and bias. I thought it was wrong then, still do…but I got over it. Water off a ducks back, their loss, not mine. Oh well, life is not a popularity contest.
I refuse to see myself as a victim, or any sort. And therein lies a large source of my personal freedom and power.
And btw… "If you don't see ethnicity, and our government begins to create immigration laws specifically targeted at, shall we say, "browner" nations, how will you know?" Uh…are you f*cking nuts?
Immigration laws are not targeted at 'browner nations' but at people who break our laws by invading out country illegally. The same law that prohibits a Mexican running across the border illegally also prohibits a white Canadian from coming south over his. I am happy you are weighing in on this fine website, however. There is much to learn here, we should all keep reading and debating, because this is healthy discourse — for ourselves and our country. Please keep coming back and joining the fray. Cheers!
Bjorn… I will admit to a few deep-rooted vestigal racial prejudices that were situationally implanted in my formative years. My earliest recollection was a very lively and funny parking attendant at a Dodger game that cracked us all up while directing us where to park. My Dad said, "They're so funny." (I didn't take that to mean all parking attendants were funny…but that Blacks were funny.) So rather than being saddled early on with a negative racial bias, I had the reverse: I grew up thinking that all Blacks were funny. And I looked forward to spending time with Blacks….cuz who doesn't like to laugh.
I never had a negative bias regarding folks of color. Certainly not from my upbringing; we were always taught that all people were created equal, and everyone should be given the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't mean that a prejudice is necessarily bad. It just means that I made a 'pre-judgment' on something before I had the whole picture. But the very nature of growing up is making prejudgments, a hundred a day. It's how we begin to form a world view.
Incidences happen and judgments are made in the formative years. Some of these judgments are based in deductive reasoning, some in knee-jerk reaction to certain traumatic events…and some are simply erroneous. But these days, especially when the country has proven, (to all the world if not to ourselves — please tell me it's finally true), that it has moved past racial hatred by electing it's first Black President.
Incidences happen and judgments are made in the formative years. Some of these judgments are based in deductive reasoning, some in knee-jerk reaction to certain traumatic events…and some are simply erroneous. But these days, especially when the country has proven, (to all the world if not to ourselves — please tell me it's finally true), that it has moved past racial hatred by electing it's first Black President.
Me and my buddies of color, be they Black, Hispanic, or Asian…we all joke about race! We make wise cracks about racial cliches and play and work together and everybody gets along.
And…we laugh at those who take race so seriously as to indicate that those who don't want to 'sit down and have a serious discussion about race in America' are somehow cowards. There are more deadly threats to this country, like millions of Islamofascists who want to cut our heads off.
That said…so what?
(See my comments below… I think I've covered it all.)
Thanks for commenting, and hope to see you here again! Cheers!
Thank you for demonstrating one of the things that so infuriates blacks. In this country, we don't even have the freedom to speak our honest feelings about race without having some white person say that we're saying things WE ARE NOT SAYING! Again, how can you not see the difference between "let's talk about race" and "you're a racist"?
So:
1. SHOW ME where in his speech AG Holder called anyone racist
2. POINT OUT where I said you're a racist if you don't talk about race and obsess over it at every turn.
3. EXPLAIN to me who ignoring racism makes it go away.
You don't know anything about me, especially what color or race I am.
I have made my points several times in this thread. It is clear to me that you haven't bothered to read the speech, or if you did, you certainly were not paying attention. If you had and if you were, you would not be saying this nonsense.
You can talk about race all day and all night if you choose. I have no interest in doing so, because race is not on my mind day and night. I deal with people according to their character, not their color or their race.
Goodbye.
So, just to be clear, you can't SHOW, POINT OUT, or EXPLAIN the things I mentioned? Or you don't have enough respect for my and my opinion to respond to what I posted?
Think about that for a second. Who is making an argument and attempting to support it with facts, and who is just putting words into other people's mouths and refusing to engage in a discussion in which they actually listen to what the other participant in the conversation is saying instead of trying to hurl veiled insults?
While I agree with almost all of Garys points, I do think at some point we should have an intense racial debate about certain things. Take crime, for example. Rape specifically. Check out the FBI statistics on white on black rape and black on white rape. Because they try to hide the figures so blacks are not killed on site due to the truth, you have to hunt to find that there is a 30 to 1 ratio. for every one black woman raped by a white man, 30 white woman are raped by a black man.
"library.flawlesslogic.com/rape.htm"
is a link to study many other interesting stats concerning the criminal war being fought against whites by these poor black victims. (continued next comment)
Lets all have a conversation about racism, shall we?
Blacks are the most racist people on the planet, they kill each other according to how dark they are!
I pride myself, due to my northeast upbringing, on not haveing a racist bone in my body, but that does not mean I am ignorant of the fact that many black people would be happy if all whites were gone. Be careful out there, muslims are not the only people that want us dead.
There are many blacks of strong character, who see beyond the Jackson, Sharpton, Obama hatred of whites, (Michelle, not necessarilly Barack, have you read her college thesis- HATE HATE HATE RACIST RACIST RACIST- no wonder they tried to keep it hidden), unfortunately, they are afraid to speak up against their hateful brethren, like the moderate muslims are afraid of their fanatics.
You miss my point.
If blacks have done successful things that are worthy of historical remembrance then they should be put in the history books and lauded for the historical deeds they performed.
Not because they are black. If there is a dirth of mentioning of people from history who have done things because they are black. The solution is to simply include them in the history book.
Not spend one month of the year telling everyone how black they are.
Not sure your point here. I have nothing against the Church of England or Episcopalians and if they were to invite me to St. George's day I would spend my time trying to learn who he was and what he did. If there was a lot of drinking involved I am sure I could become equally as enthusiastic.
St. Patrick is a key Saint in Catholic doctrine. I am sure that there are missionaries Catholics in Asia and Africa who know who he is. He is important to the Catholic Church.
Well of couse MLK was a Republican at one time.
It's a Media MAtters thing you wouldn't understand…………………
Ok maybe you would they really aren't that deep there.
I am angry that they attacked him for going to Catholic school in the South. I went to a Catholic School in South Carolina when my Dad was stationed at the Air Force base there. The Air Force told my Dad that if he wanted his kids to get an education he should enroll them in the Catholic School. The public schools would put me in the dummy classes and not teach me. Because the black children were also put there we had more black non protestants at the Catholic school than Catholics. Why! Because it was the only school in town that would not only accept black children but would teach them the same as any other student. No PC nonsense either the Nuns spared their rulers for no one, race or no race.
Funny but of all the terrible and unfair things they say about Justice Thomas this was the one that bothered me most.
Andrew,
If you want to get good news on the goings on in Venezuela check out the "el Nuevo Herald", the Spanish version of the Miami Herald. I remember one article where Chavez went on a Sunday show in Venezuela to complain that the opposition was in league with Bush because they would not run anyone against him. He thought they were truing to make him look like a Dictator. So he announced that if they did not run a Candidate for him to beat that he would sspend all elections until 2040. Chavez is a monster.
Isn't AG Eric Holder and the so called Reverend Jeremiah Wright half white? So what's their beef?
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