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		<title>By: tublecane</title>
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		<dc:creator>tublecane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Continued) 
 
We can&#039;t go back in time and see what would have happened without unions, but more than likely, the great leap forward in standard of living, rising wages, and the eight hour workday were made possible by business, not unions. Most businesses, and economies of scale especially, garner profits in the margin. It&#039;s not as if the government could step in, at the behest of unions, and by fiat make the enterprise successful enough to afford less time and less work from labor without adversely affecting the profit margin, which would threaten the entire concern. 
 
The only thing unions can do, so long as capital is not efficient enough to afford the comfortable lifestyle modern people are accustomed to, is screw other laborers. They can restrict the labor supply, through their own efforts but mostly through help from the government, by excluding competition. And they continue to do so even today. Why else do they so hate scabs? Why else do they so violently oppose outsourcing and free trade?  
 
Because the great enemy of the union is the excess supply of labor out there, waiting to be used, threatening to take away the precious benefits they&#039;ve squeezed out of the Fat Cats. </description>
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<p>We can&#039;t go back in time and see what would have happened without unions, but more than likely, the great leap forward in standard of living, rising wages, and the eight hour workday were made possible by business, not unions. Most businesses, and economies of scale especially, garner profits in the margin. It&#039;s not as if the government could step in, at the behest of unions, and by fiat make the enterprise successful enough to afford less time and less work from labor without adversely affecting the profit margin, which would threaten the entire concern. </p>
<p>The only thing unions can do, so long as capital is not efficient enough to afford the comfortable lifestyle modern people are accustomed to, is screw other laborers. They can restrict the labor supply, through their own efforts but mostly through help from the government, by excluding competition. And they continue to do so even today. Why else do they so hate scabs? Why else do they so violently oppose outsourcing and free trade?  </p>
<p>Because the great enemy of the union is the excess supply of labor out there, waiting to be used, threatening to take away the precious benefits they&#039;ve squeezed out of the Fat Cats.</p>
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		<title>By: tublecane</title>
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		<dc:creator>tublecane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unions had their place decades ago when they were needed.&quot; 
 
I&#039;ll never understand this mindset. Perhaps, perhaps, unions were helpful for things like safety, which all the members, more or less, would agree upon, and where it&#039;s important things get done as soon as possible. And possibly, so that the bosses don&#039;t exploit individual workers&#039; ignorance. Unions are an efficient means of spreading information in the labor market.  
 
But as regards what most people praise the unions for: high wages, benefits, shorter workdays, etc., there was almost absolutely no need. What do people think, the Fat Cats had big piles of money they were sitting on, and only made the workers work on cumbersome or outdated machines, for long hours, with little pay, and at a subsistence leve because they loved their profits? Or, maybe, because they thought it was funny. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Unions had their place decades ago when they were needed.&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;ll never understand this mindset. Perhaps, perhaps, unions were helpful for things like safety, which all the members, more or less, would agree upon, and where it&#039;s important things get done as soon as possible. And possibly, so that the bosses don&#039;t exploit individual workers&#039; ignorance. Unions are an efficient means of spreading information in the labor market.  </p>
<p>But as regards what most people praise the unions for: high wages, benefits, shorter workdays, etc., there was almost absolutely no need. What do people think, the Fat Cats had big piles of money they were sitting on, and only made the workers work on cumbersome or outdated machines, for long hours, with little pay, and at a subsistence leve because they loved their profits? Or, maybe, because they thought it was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: tublecane</title>
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		<dc:creator>tublecane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unions are supposed to be the mechanism to level the playing field for the working man.  Their job is to protect the working man from &#8220;the man,&#8221; and to keep their members employed fairly.&quot; 
 
No, unions are supposed to artificially raise the price of labor by restricting its supply. 
 
&quot;Isn&#8217;t employment what unions are really all about&quot; 
 
Yes, unions are all about employment. They&#039;re all about securing employment for members of the union at the expense of other people. Also, securing employment for certain minorities within the union at the expense of other union members. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Unions are supposed to be the mechanism to level the playing field for the working man.  Their job is to protect the working man from &ldquo;the man,&rdquo; and to keep their members employed fairly.&quot; </p>
<p>No, unions are supposed to artificially raise the price of labor by restricting its supply. </p>
<p>&quot;Isn&rsquo;t employment what unions are really all about&quot; </p>
<p>Yes, unions are all about employment. They&#039;re all about securing employment for members of the union at the expense of other people. Also, securing employment for certain minorities within the union at the expense of other union members.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just laughed myself silly watching an Ealing Studios comedy (A Run for Your Money) - the product of an old fashioned factory studio, so I could not agree more about the benefits of permanently hiring a crew and cast and concentrating on making films instead of negotiating with a bunch of sleazy hangers-on who serve no *useful* function. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just laughed myself silly watching an Ealing Studios comedy (A Run for Your Money) &#8211; the product of an old fashioned factory studio, so I could not agree more about the benefits of permanently hiring a crew and cast and concentrating on making films instead of negotiating with a bunch of sleazy hangers-on who serve no *useful* function.</p>
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		<title>By: ISITC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISITC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhmm... are you really from Michigan?!?!? I don&#039;t think so, if you don&#039;t know that the correct term for us is Michigander. ;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhmm&#8230; are you really from Michigan?!?!? I don&#039;t think so, if you don&#039;t know that the correct term for us is Michigander. <img src='http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If tax-incentives are so great, Michigan should be trying them with other industries... automobile manufacturing for example.  Why should film making be subsidized?  (Michigan pays money to producers - more than simply excusing them from taxes.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If tax-incentives are so great, Michigan should be trying them with other industries&#8230; automobile manufacturing for example.  Why should film making be subsidized?  (Michigan pays money to producers &#8211; more than simply excusing them from taxes.)</p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like most leftist organizations, unionists talk a lot about representing the common worker when what they&#039;re really doing is securing their own positions at the top of the hierarchy and preventing anyone from interfering with the gains they obtain on the backs of others.  At the same time, they gum up the works, preventing people from getting jobs, extorting money from those that do (while ignoring their legitimate pleas for assistance), preventing business from being profitable (for anyone but themselves) and create a climate that is hostile toward business. 
 
But then, I live in California, so I admit to a bit of bitterness where unions are concerned. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like most leftist organizations, unionists talk a lot about representing the common worker when what they&#039;re really doing is securing their own positions at the top of the hierarchy and preventing anyone from interfering with the gains they obtain on the backs of others.  At the same time, they gum up the works, preventing people from getting jobs, extorting money from those that do (while ignoring their legitimate pleas for assistance), preventing business from being profitable (for anyone but themselves) and create a climate that is hostile toward business. </p>
<p>But then, I live in California, so I admit to a bit of bitterness where unions are concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: never more amazed</title>
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		<dc:creator>never more amazed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder movies mostly suck.  People are being choked to death by yet another union.  Great. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder movies mostly suck.  People are being choked to death by yet another union.  Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanda_Fucan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanda_Fucan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think more actors don&#039;t do it because the full members would treat them as if they were scabs.  It might effect their ability to get work in union states (like CA and Mich.). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think more actors don&#039;t do it because the full members would treat them as if they were scabs.  It might effect their ability to get work in union states (like CA and Mich.).</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Arone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Arone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect to Mr. DeMartini and others who may be interested, Screen Actors Guild has a great history, which I invite you to take a look at: 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sag.org/history&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.sag.org/history&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Ironic that today&#039;s BH Open Thread would have one of SAG&#039;s founding members, Boris Karloff, as a subject. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to Mr. DeMartini and others who may be interested, Screen Actors Guild has a great history, which I invite you to take a look at: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sag.org/history" target="_blank">http://www.sag.org/history</a> </p>
<p>Ironic that today&#039;s BH Open Thread would have one of SAG&#039;s founding members, Boris Karloff, as a subject.</p>
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