Comments on: Ideology of a Liberal

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By: miscsoc

miscsoc — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:29:02 +0000

There's an element of truth to that…the particular analogy makes me smile, though. Daughter been giving you trouble? Maybe it's time for an austerity programme.

By: miscsoc

miscsoc — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:22:11 +0000

I've honestly never met a liberal or a socialist who's blamed the late 70s on Ronald Reagan. I'm pretty far left and would instantly correct them if they suggested that. I suppose you've just been talking to a liberal who is also an idiot, I can't imagine it would be worth arguing with that particular person, but they are not really representative of yr average liberal. Even the trotskyites I have encountered wouldn't go as far as to blame Reagan for events before his presidency!

By: miscsoc

miscsoc — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:16:32 +0000

I'm not clear on what you mean when you say "ration has always controlled the emotive". Can you expand?

By: Student1776

Student1776 — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:52:07 +0000

You make a really good point. As I see it, the key issue is this – if you want to give to someone and do so voluntarily you may legitimately feel virtuous for it. If you don't want and decide to spend the money on something else or yourself or loved ones than that is fine because it is your money. But if your money is given away to some needy person against your will there is no virtue in that. And if you force someone else to give up their money to some needy person neither you nor they are virtuous. Virtue only comes from the free exercise of will. The socialists eliminate the possibility of virtue and replace it with a society based on one group ripping off another politically less powerful group – a world without virtue more like living in a criminal world where the biggest gang rips off the smaller gangs.

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By: Student1776

Student1776 — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:48:06 +0000

They don't make Democrats like Grover anymore. They don't even make Democrats like Kennedy any more.

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By: Student1776

Student1776 — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:46:06 +0000

Brilliant and insightful comment

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By: josh

josh — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:21:06 +0000

this post is anything but meaningful or thoughtful discourse. first, it dismisses the notion that a political or social decision can be (or possibly should be) arrived at in part or in whole emotionally. it then dismisses the notion that conservatism can be an emotional decision, or that you could arrive at liberal decision thougtfully.

take the death penalty. you could argue from the liberal side that innocents die despite the hundreds of millions spent by states in the legal process, so it is uncertain and fiscally unsound. you could say states without capital punishment tend to have lower murder rates, as do countries that have outlawed the death penalty, so it is ineffective.

the conservative could counter that they feel offended by paying anything in taxes to keep killers alive. they might argue if it were my daughter i'd want vengance.

these emotional and rational arguments are all valid, but they are what they are.
we are rational and emotional beings and to paint one side of humanity or the other as rediculous is more elitist than anything i can imagine. it is contrary to the human condition and self hating. and it hurts, rather than helps civil discourse and the future of our nation.

By: Rod

Rod — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:49:03 +0000

If being a liberal is so bad, then why does the bible speak good of them?

"The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself."
(Proverbs 11:25)

"The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful."
(Isaiah 32:5)

"But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand."
(Isaiah 32:8)