Jon Stewart Courageously Defends His Bottom Flank
by Eric GolubIt takes a big man to admit he screwed up and take a principled stand. It takes a phony liberal elitist to apologize for the sake of protecting his television ratings.
Jon Stewart makes Arlen Specter look principled.
Like Pee Wee Herman, Jon Stewart launched his intercontinental ballistic missile, and he could not put the missile back on the launching pad. In his case, the only thing that seeped out was stupidity.
Jon Stewart, for those who are not “trendy,” “hip,” or “cool” (brie-cheese-eating-elitist-snobs according to the Tygrrrr Express dictionary), has a nightly political television show where he presents the news with all the accuracy and fairness of the Jayson Blair Times.
Yet he is slightly different from the JBT. The JBT wants to be taken seriously, despite being leftist, boring, and usually wrong. Jon Stewart wants to be taken seriously when it suits him, and as a comedian when that benefits him. He straddles like Bill Clinton, only with his trousers on. On the one hand, Stewart claims to offer intelligent political insight. Yet when challenged a couple of years ago, Stewart took the defensive posture that his show was followed by “crank calls by puppets.”
This is not about “Crank Yankers.” This is about acting like a cranky wanker.
Jon Stewart had his CW moment when debating the absolutely brilliant Cliff May. I know Cliff personally. He is no partisan hack. He is a serious policy analyst with expertise in matters of national security. People who attend his lectures are better off for it.
Cliff May debated Jon Stewart on torture, and the only thing that was definitely tortured was Stewart trying to keep up. Cliff May did not use coercive interrogation methods on Jon Stewart, but he certainly put him in an uncomfortable stress position. Stewart was twisted into a pretzel by the time the debate was done.
Here is May’s recap of the events.
May asked Stewart if Harry Truman was a war criminal for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Stewart hemmed, hawed, and fumbled his words. For a man who lambasted President George W. Bush for malaprops and syntax fracturing, Stewart sure looked like the pot calling the kettle African-American. In fact, he looked like President Obama without a teleprompter.
He eventually blurted out that, yes, Harry Truman was a war criminal.
Then came the backlash from the millions of people that understand that America is about Jimmy Stewart, not Jon Stewart.
Jon Stewart then apologized on a later show. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to apologize after a backlash occurs. After all, free speech is not free. Just ask Dr. Laura. Jon Stewart may have come to understand that some of his sponsors do business with Middle America.
Yet, this is about something deeper. Why does Jon Stewart give latitude to Harry Truman while skewering George W. Bush?
Because ideological bigotry requires that liberals and Democrats be exalted while Republicans and conservatives are skewered. Actual issues are irrelevant.
(For those that are part of the Jon Stewart love orgy, Ideological Bigotry is my groundbreaking new book that exposes leftist hatred. Middle America gets it. You should as well.)
Jon Stewart realized that he criticized a Democrat. It is better to be a hypocrite and anger people that you already detest than to be consistent and anger people you love. It is not possible to unite everybody on your side, but it is possible to unite people against you.
So let me offer some common sense that will be self-explanatory to Middle America.
Harry Truman did the right thing. He made an impossible choice that none of us will ever have to make. His job was not, as some liberals insist, to save the world. His job was to save America. We were under attack. By killing many innocent Japanese civilians, he prevented millions of Americans from being killed. He did the one thing a president must do. He kept us safe. As an extra benefit, millions of people worldwide were saved.
George W. Bush also did the right thing. He also made the impossible choice. He also responded to an attack on our soil by going everywhere terrorists were harbored and protected.
We were attacked by Japan, but Harry Truman took the fight to Germany. Germany never attacked us. So what? They were part of the problem.
We were attacked by Al Queda, but George W. Bush took the fight to Iraq. Iraq never attacked us. So what? They were part of the problem, as are Iran and Syria.
More people died at the hands of Harry Truman than George W. Bush. The numbers are not even close. Harry Truman took measures more brutal than anything George W. Bush ever did. Harry Truman ordered the most unimaginable response.
So if Harry Truman was right, then George W. Bush cannot be a war criminal.
Jon Stewart knows this. To deny this is to be intellectually dishonest, or as I say in my Tygrrrr Express dictionary, “a liberal.”
Jon Stewart once remarked that when George W. Bush was right about something, “My head may explode.”
Well, feel free to spontaneously combust, Mr. Stewart. George W. Bush got the biggest thing right that he was asked to do.
Jon Stewart has his right to free speech because George W. Bush protected and defended that right.
Yet Jon Stewart allowed fear of being called a hypocrite to overrule common sense.
He then realized that nobody has a right to earn tons of money from “free” speech.
Jon Stewart was not protecting free speech. He was protecting very expensive, highly paid speech.
It is at that moment that he decided to “apologize” and defend his bottom (left) flank.
He had the courage of his “convictions,” which was to defend his rumpus from financial harm.
Real courage would be Jon Stewart offering an apology to George W. Bush while he is still alive to hear it.
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Oh the inconvenient truth. I have no opinion on Truman and what does it matter? can we take the bombs back?
BUT, since GWB has been branded a war criminal and worse, often citing waterboarding at the ultimate terror, how does the A Bomb over a civilian city or two rank?
Just asking our liberal friends out there.
Hey, Truman was a Dem. Must be OK!
We were attacked by Japan, but Harry Truman took the fight to Germany. Germany never attacked us. So what? They were part of the problem.
TRUMAN took the fight to Germany? Let's go back to the timeline, shall we?
I'll have to go with Joy on that one. Truman finished the fight with Germany in '45 but he didn't take it to them in '41. However, Eric's point still stands that Germany was part of the problem and had to be dealt with. Same as Iraq…if we didn't go there in 2003, we still would have gone there eventually. Hussein would have done something at some point that would have required a response from the USA and a tough one at that.
Sorry Eric, I don't buy Stewart's apology. Given the magnitude of his stupid statement, I found his words lacking in sincerity. At the end of the day, his apology probably had less to do with regret, as his stomach churned away, and more to do with"…the backlash from millions of people who understand America is about Jimmy Stewart, not Jon Stewart." (and probably an advertiser or two weighing in)
Nice try, however, for me, it was a lame attempt to cover his sorry liberal ass.
Courage? I don't think so.
How about 50,000 dead (not Lancet numbers btw) not counting the 10,000 plus wounded in Vietnam? Ever hear anyone on the left call Kennedy a war criminal?
edit: I should also note these are just US casualties
"More people died at the hands of Harry Truman than George W. Bush. The numbers are not even close."
I like how this is overlooked. There are alot of people that have more blood on their hands than GWB ever will. If you go back to the first night of the invasion of Iraq and listen to the CBS news report, we killed half the civilian population of Baghdad in one night. The line, "Civilian casualties are sure to be in the tens of thousands" comes to mind. Or the capture of Saddam, with a stone-faced Dan Rather looking like he just lost his best friend and got a swift kick in the groin before they put him on the air. I couldn't imagine their reaction to a tactical nuke today?
Jon Stewart is just doing what the rest of the MSM does, bash the right, in a sad attempt to boost his lousy show and it backfired on him.
The comparison of using the Bomb to torture is false.
It can be argued that the choice Truman made was between large Japanese casualties or even greater American and Japanese casualties through conventional warfare.
In the case of Bush and torture, the enemies (and some innocents) had already been captured and there were alternate methods of extracting information that were more effective and reliable than torture. But the Bush Administration wanted short cuts and weren't too worried if the coerced information was accurate or not.
great piece!!!! Jon stewart was the little girl who cried like a baby after 9/11. What a wimp. Thank god we do not rely on pussies like Stewart for the nations defense. He would be in a permanent fetal position under his desk hiding like the coward he and all liberals are.
At the end of the day we have no problem with Mr Stewart. He is a self-admitted liberal, and not exactly a policy wonk, either. One remembers back to the first real crescendo of criticism on Iraq. Stewart, who was against it from the beginning allowed this reflection- "what if Bush is right? what if this ends up protecting my children (in the long run)?"
It's hard to imagine that type of honest reflection from other left-leaning media types. Harry Truman was the George W Bush of his time, and was vindicated by the 40 year success of the Truman Doctrine. One suspects
Mr Bush's Doctrine will have like results- if we don't surrender first…
Seeing that Harry Truman (whom Roosevelt very reluctantly put on his ticket) was VP in 1941 he wasn't a factor. What is interesting to speculate is would Roosevelt have had the stones to do what no-nonsense Truman did in 1945? Roosevelt was a ditherer, and drove Churchill nuts. In Truman he ahd an ideological soul mate. Interesting speculation…
"George W. Bush took the fight to Iraq. Iraq never attacked us. So what? They were part of the problem, as are Iran and Syria.'
Right. So what if nearly 4300 American servicemen died to eliminate nonexistent WMD's?
Psst. You're the problem.
it;s so sad it has to be phrased in such a manner. Both good and honorable men. Truman was wrong on domestic policy but was a patriot and a hero nonetheless. So, too is Mr Bush…
Joy McCann, you beat me to the punch. It seems that Stewart is not the only one whose credibility should be questioned, eh? Of course, the retort will be that FDR was a "liberal", too. As long as it fits into his narrowminded arguement, it won't matter to this hack of a "journalist".
What is Tygrrrrr?
Laughable piece.
Who cares what Churchill thought? His country wouldn't exist if not for FDR and, more importantly, Joe Stalin.
thats lame arugment to say we had to go after Iraq, why because he wouldn't give USA free reighn on all economic matters, Iraq war was started by economic hitmen controlling gov't dessision making. To say they are part of the problem without including what the problem is about as big of propaganda as many of state spondered attacks against thier own citizens. PS I wounder how many people are paid to give missleading comments on website…Thats where all the homeland sucurity dollars must be going
Or Johnson, for that matter. The war was greatly expanded under his administration.
U.S. participation in the great wars of the last 100 years were presided over by Democrat presidents: WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Plus some minor stuff in the Balkans and elsewhere. Republicans: Gulf War I and Gulf War II. So, why, oh, why are Republicans the warmongers and war criminals?
George W. Bush has never apologized for the 4,283 brave men and women that died fighting for a lie. He has never apologized for the thousands of innocent Iraqis killed, nor has he apologized to the majority of Iraq that did not want the US to invade their country.
You can't even compare Bush and Truman. One was a retaliatory attack and one was unprovoked. Bush is a war criminal just like every other who brutally invaded a sovereign country not at war. Justice will not be served for our soldiers or the Iraqis until Bush is tried and convicted for his crimes.
If you haven't listened to Bill Whittle's response to Jon Stewart, you must. It is a wonderful history lesson.
http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_/The_True_S...
Another difference, by the way: Germany and Japan were treaty-bound allies. When we declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on us.
No such thing happened with Iraq.
Please enlighten us as to what alternate methods of extractinig information you're referring to, and can you site any examples of how they worked?
Weren't too worried? Weren't worried enough, Sojourner. Remember the Pentagon report that 61 former detainees had returned to terrorism after being released? Make a real argument, please.
Germany never attacked us but they did declare war on us (December 11th 1941 ) after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.
Jon Stewart is a hack not a reasoned debater.
Truman had to do it. Roosevelt was too busy appearing on TV during the Depression to handle the war
Bush never lied! That is just the Democratic lie put forward so you brainwashed losers will follow Bin laden and the rest. Liberals must be the stupidest people in the world. Obama has lied over and over yet you people kiss hi s ass everyday of the week. You all remind me of Powell, the colin. You all just suck!
"there were alternate methods of extracting information that were more effective and reliable"
Like what?
There is a major flaw with your article in that it makes logical sense. Don't assume when debating with the liberal disease infested mind that logical sense engages the liberal brain in thought provoking discussion.
…along with such other "brave" people who fought for this country like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Weiner, Nugent, George Will, Cheney, Gingrich, etc. etc…
study your history and you would not make that assertion. It wasn't Churchill who got us into WW11, it was Roosevelt. Once we were there his dynamic leadership helped propel us to victory.
Eisenhower and Churchill put pressure on Roosevelt for the scope and scale of Operation Overlord (D-Day), and he watched in horror as Roosevelt started giving away Europe to Stalin at Yalta. In our view, Churchill was a better American than Roosevelt, and Stalin was every bit the equal of Hitler for pure concomittant evil…
If you are questioning the fact that it was Roosevelt who initially took the fight to Germany, you should state that clearly. Not doing so will get you a heapin' helpin' of pie.
screw this site, all liberals in control. so be it
yes, please do… in the aftermath of 9/11 we did what was necessary to protect our homeland. Can you imagine telling the people in LA that we didn't make the hairy fat slob Khaleed Sheikh Mohammed uncomfortable and allowed thousands of US citizens to perish when he said under interrogation "you will soon find out?" Others gave up intel willingly. It varies from time to time. Believe this to be true- the Current Occupant will have extrordinairy rendition done on certain targets.
And they will not be given tea and scones..
The fact that Stewart apologized demonstrates how stupid he actually is. Branding Harry Truman a war criminal is a direct and logical extension of the left wing drivel that he subscribes to.It is not a slip of the tongue.Having regard to Stewart and the other third rate comedians like Letterman and Colbert who have had their lack of comedic ability rewarded with "talk" shows in return for embarrassing themselves each night, parroting Obama talking points, those retro channels showing Beverley Hillbillies reruns look very good in comparison.
shutup
If things continue on course, we Conservatives will be branded, as war & otherwise criminals.
You're right, Iraq wasn't at war because the Kurds and civilians couldn't defend themselves. Why don't you talk to some of the brave men and women and get their take on it? Every single one I talk to are proud they went there and liberated the people of Iraq. How many care packages have you sent the brave men and women in service? Ever donate to the USO? How about Soldiers Angels?
good to see you back and wrong as ever. Didn't Billy C brutally bomb a country back to the stone age?
Many thousands of Serbs were killed. Where were you?
making pie no doubt.
I'd like to speak eloquently on this subject, but Jon Stewart is the devil's bitch.
Laughable reply.
FDR was Liberal yes but not nearly on par with today's Liberals. Today's Liberals are not Liberal at all, they're really more along the lines of Marxist or Statist if you will. That's all beside the point. Conservatives, Libertarians, and a large portion of the Independent community (myself included) did not agree with FDR's expansions to government and entitlement programs (most of which he did under the pressure of the growing popularity of Socialist Huey Long's doctrine) but you I challenge you to find any Conservative, Libertarian, or Independent who does not respect FDR.
You see S to the D therein lies the difference. These new Liberals are incapable of respecting anyone who is not in lock goose step with them on every issue and that will ultimately be your downfall. All someone has to do is disagree with your ilk on one issue and they get taken to the gallows like Miss California.
"Right. So what if nearly 4300 American servicemen died to eliminate nonexistent WMD's?
Psst. You're the problem. "
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Is that what they died for? Really? Wow. You sir, are a genius. Thank you for enlightening me.
All this time I thought there were a host of other reason we went into Iraq. Something about Iraq not abiding by the '91 cease fire agreement, offering aid to terrorists, Clinton's pledge of regime change in Iraq, the brutalization of his population and, yes, Iraq's WMD programs. Guess I was wrong.
Thank you again for the history lesson.
Short cuts? Didn't care if the information was accurate or not? Where do you get this stuff? It just sounds so random. As if you pulled it out of your ………
Oh.
Too much light in your bunker this morning?
Colbert rules (he deserves better than to be lumped in with Lameroldman and Makeagoofyface Stewart) and if you don't get him it's your loss…you wanna trash a tired old leftist "comedian" (besides Bill Maher, who's ALWAYS sucked), try Howiewood Stern- when he even bothers to do his radio show, that is…
Idiot
I think that person must be mildly retarded….
Auntie! Pie! Pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie piepiepiepiepiepiepiepiepiepiepiepiepie!!!!
That's why Bill Clinton ordered the air strikes on Iraq (Operation Desert Fox) because of WMD…strange how people forget that oh and the fact that they found yellow cake uranium in Iraq and that for a country that had no WMD why did they have an infrastructure to support it? Psst your the one whose wrong.
…A half-baked pie, as is his wont.
Jon Stewart is a typical bed-wetter. He knows the truth, he knows right from wrong. He also knows that to speak the truth takes courage. He knows that to be right he would need to take a less popular liberal view of things.
He's a coward and will be adding a "P" to his stagename…..it will no longer be "ussy"
You, obviously do not keep up with current events. What color is the sky in your world?
Still on no WMDs? (this is the left's birth Certificate issue) Get off it…no lie ( over half the world thought they had them!!) unless you are talking about Pelosi….no they did not tell me about waterboarding….Give it up!!
As auntie strives for the crux, there goes another BDS rant. Thorazene stat! b/t/w – blow it out your pants.
You make distinctions without differences.It's you who doesn't get it.A doctrinaire liberal hack posing as a comic deserves to be called a doctrinaire liberal hack posing as a comic.In any case anyone who thinks that Colbert "rules" is very likely impervious to stimuli to begin with
Nah, he's just a little wussie. Nothing evil or frightening about him.
He had his chance to speak the truth, to say what's right and he failed miserably. He took the typical left-wing extremist stance because that's who he panders to.
He's a little wussie too afraid to say anything that might offend his liberal audience. Jon Stewart = COWARD
Back in 2004, when Jon Stewart was growing in popularity with his new show, I warned several people, including my mother, that Jon Stewart's blend of news and comedy, with leftist ideology, will dumb down Americans and skewer the Bush administration with very stupid things to say. To this day, how right I still am about Jon Stewart's stupidity and his stupid show.
And I love how he acted like the Hammer of the Gods when he ambushed Cramer on his show.
Why didn't he go after those in congress that allowed all this to happen in the first place??
Because Cramer was a soft target that couldn't defend himself in that hostile environment and Stewart knew it. Stewart is a complete pansie, I'll bet he pees sitting down.
That only goes to prove how flawed the system was, where a prisoner's incarceration is dependent only on the whims of the Executive Branch, instead of the ability to prove the prisoner's guilt or innocent.
And by the way, the level of recidivism of detainees is lower than many of the prisons in our country. Think about it.
If y'all can stop watching those "24" re-runs and open a book, try "How to break a terrorist : the U.S. interrogators who used brains, not brutality, to take down the deadliest man in Iraq" by Matthew Alexander with John R. Bruning.
So curious how so many people who obviously know nothing about interrogation are so intent on proving the righteousness of torture.
Not sure how many "good American" prisoners in our country strap bombs to themselves – cut off heads, or want to kill men, women, and children in a market…for their god.
I thought it was Cheney…..can you guys get your story right???
So Colin Powell just sucks now for defending his country and "criticizing" your God Rush Limpballs? Whatever…
yes, half baked, runny. No Poppin' Fresh here…
You mean all those justifications that were shot down when attempt at escalating military actions against Iraq during the Clinton presidency? The alleged terrorist aid to Ansar al-Islam in northern Iraq, -a region not under Baghdad’s control? Yep. you're still wrong.
love the verb modifier 'mildly'… being kind, aren't you?
The typo doesn't change the argument. Roosevelt still attacked Germany, although they never attacked us. Roosevelt was a Democrat. It's correct to point out errors in the text, but it's incorrect to invalidate an argument based upon a superficial error.
I don't know what any of what you just said has to do with anything I said.
Stalin was in the stronger position at Yalta and FDR had little choice but make those concessions. Perhaps we could have immediately gone to war with the Russian, but we wouldn't have been the favorites. Churchill may have thought otherwise, but Churchill was an idiot prone to risky mistakes.
I'm sure I didn't change your mind. Whatever. None of what happened at Yalta refutes the fact that the UK had its ass saved by the US and USSR. Churchill talked tough, but his military was no match for the Germans.
He'll never reply to that question, because he knows his position is false. The memos his Messiah released show that the 'torture' worked, and it was only used after 'all other methods' had been exhausted.
As a side note, does anyone else think stupid shows like "Lie to Me" and "The Closer", where harmless, nice-guy interrogators get exact, perfect answers to questions by looking at eyebrow movements and eating cupcakes contribute to this left-wing nonsense?
That person can type, but beyond that one cannot distinguish between what comes out of his mouth and what extrudes from his backside….
According to a quick fact check, the level of recidivism of violent criminals in the United States is not only lower than that of detained terrorists, terrorists return to the fold more quickly. I would love to provide you the incredible body of evidence to support my claim if you'd be so kind as to leave your e-mail address – although I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first place.
Are you suggesting that American criminals are less humane than terror suspects? That they're responsible for more deaths? That torture somehow affects recidivism?
And please explain how this demonstrates that alleged terrorists are detained at the "whims" of the Executive Branch. Simply stating it don't make it so.
John Stewart found himself in the precise corner I love to paint modern liberals* into. Because modern liberalism is based upon emotions, rather than facts, logic and reason, they can not compete with facts, logic and reason. They are like kryptonite. Debate them long enough and eventually you'll get them to step into an obvious dichotomy, and then you have them.
At this point, most modern liberals will whip out some totally juvenile insult, proclaim themselves the winner of the debate, insist the opposition is an idiot, and strut off to tidy up following their mental orgasm.
But Stewart was on the air. He couldn't just storm off, he was trapped, tripped up, and had to suck it up. Either agree Truman was a war criminal, or else admit Truman's actions weren't.
Check and mate.
* I use the term modern liberal to describe the current incarnation of the left. That is to differentiate them from classical liberals, who cared about really strange things, like liberty.
Thanks for our daily Alex Jones talking points update.
Truman wasn't the VP in 1941, he was in 1944…
You mean the yelowcake that was under IAEA seal in Al-Tuwatha prior to the secong gulf war, of which no weapons could be made from? Apparently, idiocy is not an obstacle for you.
Banjo-plucking, trogdolyte, bunker-dwelling, crpto-facist twit.
Colbert is funny and a great character…go follow Glenn Beck and his sure-to-not-sell-out comedy tour then and you can drool all you want
You know, here's the thing about Golub and pretty much anyone who contributes to Breitbart: anyone with any point of view that skews even slightly from the rules of right wing groupthink is completely delinquent in his standpoint, is subhuman and must be shipped out of America (which, of course, the right wing holds title to) or face a firing squad.
Early in this diatribe, Golub calls The New York Times the "Jayson Blair Times" in some glib way of being cute and pronouncing the paper is usually wrong. I'm not defender of the Times, but Golub fails to qualify his statement with the amount of times the New York Post is wrong. In fact, the post is freqeuently wrong and prints outright lies, quite a few of which they've been sued for.
So now he turns his attention to Jon Stewart, a comedian, as if there are only certain jokes John can tell that follow the prescription of his Golub's narrow-minded point of view. In Nazi Germany, they also scrutinzed comedians for making fund of the Third Reich — that is until they imrisoned or killed them.
Well, Golub once again has proven what a sorry little man he is along with the rest of the Breitbart crew, who do nothing to push forward the cause of conservatism in to a balanced national political discourse.
They only feel that all of us should have a "with us or against us" attitude about everything. I guess in Golub's mind it's easier to fit a square peg into a round hole if you have a mallot.
Stewart (clown-nose on/clown-nose off) and his anti-American war/Leftist ilk self-congratulatingly champion the doctrine of 'pacifism' on torture etc.
Of course, per Orwell, that is an objectively pro-fascist stress position to hold.
Mr. May pummeled him so effectively that neither Stewart, nor his audience of drones could save their special champion's clown face.
FDR went before a group of young American leftist/socialist/Marxist during the early 40's and denounced communism (small c) in a Rose Garden speech/appearence and was heckled by the assembled young commies. He didn't give in a inch to the group of no-nothings. Just a few years later we have McCarthy seeking out communists infiltrating our government, any wonder why? Had those students and like minded "comrades" accended into main stream America, and perhaps even the U.S. government? A merchant marine seaman recounts the experience of a communist leaning American and fellow seaman going to the USSR for the first time during the war, the seaman tells of that young communist renouncing communism when he saw the suffering in the USSR caused by the system, not just the Germans. It's in a program airing on PBS about Stalin and his relationship with FDR and Churchill.
If Creamer can't "defend" himself in the "hostile envirnment" of a comedy talk show, then he's the complete pansy! Seriously, if he couldn't/wouldn't defend his sham of a show, WHY did he even bother to show up on Stewart's program?
Stalin was stronger or FDR was the bigger wimp? It was the 2nd!!! To bad Truman didn't do to Stalin what he had done to the Japanese. Patton was right!!! Not to mention, churchill help save his own country's but both from the previous British Prime Minister and FDR with Eisenhower's help.
No, THIS yellowcake…
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/about_that...
Truth hurts dont it sunshine??? Uh Waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
ROTFLMAO Go Joe Biden!!!
Hell no, but I heard Bill Press call Nixon and Kissinger war criminals on his talk show!!!
Hmmmmmmmmmm, double standard???
"Yet, this is about something deeper. Why does Jon Stewart give latitude to Harry Truman while skewering George W. Bush?"
Probably because of blowback, owing to the fact that one of these two men is a well-remembered, in some cases beloved historical figure whom many historians feel recieved fair credit in his day; while the other one is George W. Bush
"So let me offer some common sense that will be self-explanatory to Middle America."
Sorry to break it to you, man, but I count 8 to 10 multi-syllable words in your opening sentence; meaning that "Middle America" already tuned you out
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"We were attacked by Japan, but Harry Truman took the fight to Germany. Germany never attacked us. So what? They were part of the problem."
Poor comparison. Germany was in a state of open war with our allies, officially declared war on us after Pearl and was a confirmed official ally of the nation that DID attack us. Enough of this nonsense. If Conservatives (correctly) want Liberals to stop making every war out to be Vietnam, they owe it to reason to stop making every war out to be WWII.
"George W. Bush also did the right thing. He also made the impossible choice. He also responded to an attack on our soil by going everywhere terrorists were harbored and protected."
Except that he DIDN'T. It's the Middle East. EVERY country is a place where terrorists are harbored and protected to some capacity. He went to TWO.
LOL nice try sunshine!!!
I hear this "Bush Lied" statement all the time, but I can never find anyone who can actually provide any proof. Who was in the room when this lie took place? Exactly what did Bush lie about? WMD doesn't count because every intelligence agency in the world, and the Clinton Administration also believed that Iraq was developing WMD!
So exactly what was the lie, and where is the proof.
Pssst, Clinton, Jamey Gorelick, and Sen Bob "The Torch" Toricelli, gutted our intel community. How long were UN weapons inspectors allowed to be kicked out of Iraq by them and the UN for that matter prior to bush taking office??? Now, we get this BS crap about torture. They cut off peoples heads for goodness sake. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, the Soviets were already occupying the territory they got, and the US was still at war with Japan. Roosevelt was smart enough to recognize this, and accepted it. That Churchill, whose military career was marked by horrendous miscalculations and incredicle losses, did not recognize the same hardly reflects well on him.
PS-Check out the battle at Stalingrad if you want to see what lengths the USSR would go to to defend its territory.
That's my point. Stewart went after that guy because his show IS a sham. Cramer is a harmless fool and that's precisely why Stewart targeted him instead of someone relevant.
You think that says something about Cramer's character, when in reality it doesn't, it speaks volumes about Jon Stewart's character though. And it screams COWARD……..
Both of these men are obviously war criminals. Where is so much work here justifying the sin of murder that it is plain to see you are all compensating for it. John Stewart has sponsors, he does a job, he had to take action to continue the opportunity he has been granted to speak his mind. It doesn't change facts. Murder is murder. If you caused it, it's wrong in many countries, cultures, and religions.
And he shouldn't have to. Get over the fact that he did a damn fine jopb as CIC!!! You know it, you just can't stomach giving any non-liberal credit. Ding Fries Ready!!!
Our strategy as an ally was worked out in advance by FDR and Churchill. One our destroyers, the "Arliegh Burke" was attacked and sunk while conducting escort duties in the North Atlantic, I believe 111 U.S. sailors died. FDR did not use that as a reason to go to war, and Hitler was furious that his U-Boat had initiated action with the U.S. Hitler was a fool for delaring war on the U.S. Historian Robert Dalleck and others believe that U.S. participation in WWII might have been initially contained to the Pacific if not for the rash decision by the Nazi's to declare war on the U.S. Either way we would have eventually been just as involved, in my opinion.
You gotta love the libs. Truman dropped an A bomb in the middle of a city, 2 actually. Think about it.
Again, I am not hammering him, it is just a fact. Likely the single most deadly piece of aggression in the history of the world.
So, he was just retailating but GWB is respons for 4200 soliders having died.
Good one, you are truly a dimwit.
We are all Marshall and apparently we are all war criminals as well.
Break out the bubbly, Hollywood is here.
Well – we have more to worry about than Stewart. Another joke(str) – this time a law maker.
"Biden to Franken: You’re Good Enough, You’re Smart Enough and Gosh Darn It, We are Looking Forward to Working with You" " (ABC News)
Hey Joe,
Thanks for that perfect example of the Modern Liberal's pathological projection defense mechanism.
You are now free to remove your hypocritical clown-nose.
we stand corrected; it was indeed Henry A Wallace. Truman was only VP for a short time and was thrust into a pretty stick wicket… thanks for the input.
Plus, the USSR would be the obvious favorite due to their developmnt of the Atomic Bomb-oh wait, they didn't have the bomb in '45. So, how does that make them the favorite, again?
I think Roosevelt (and the US as a whole) just wanted the war to be over. That's why he made so many concessions at Yalta.
Your post was surprisingly free of name-calling, Joe – so although I disagree with you wholeheartedly, I give you thumbs-up.
The argument is that Stewart wants to have it both ways: if he's a comedian, fine, and he can wear that hat all the time. Then we don't have to take him seriously. But do you remember the 2007 Pew Poll where he made the list of the top 5 most respected journalists in the nation? If you say, "that's the fault of the stupid public – they're the ones who buy into it!" remember that they're your voting bloc.
If Stewart is a comedian, we'll leave well enough alone. But there are enough people that think he's a journalist to justify bringing the hammer down on such mind-numbingly bizarre comments as he's made recently. Aren't Olbermann and O'Reilly enough?
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