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]]> By: Patrick http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-235890 Patrick Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:00:13 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-235890 Try actually reading their writings - even as Hitler rose to power. Or look at the policies, many have which are pointed out in this thread, which are directly derived from Marx. As indicated in the quote you took to respond to, read "Liberal Fascism." Mr. Goldberg does an excellent job (far beyond the capacity of anyone on this board) of historically tracing the origins of the Nazi party and what Hitler stood for. I would challenge you to show that there was a radical shift with Hitler. There wasn't. In fact, some years ago, a friend linked to a Time article from the 30's, on another board, that claimed that there was just as much state control of business and the economy in Germany as there was in the Soviet Union, and that businesses that thought they were getting some "deal" or "partnership" were sadly mistaken. Basically, the Nazis, before and under Hitler, believed in the centralization of the control of the means of production and distribution of goods and services, the elimination of the family as the cornerstone of society and replacing that foundation with the state. Though the Nazis didn't pursue the out-and-out elimination of religion as fiercely as the Soviets did, they did attempt to supplant it with a state-oriented pseudo-religion. This latter act was the same as the Soviets, and was a key component of Marx's theories (at least, in effect, if not in written "scripture"). Your (apparent) attempts to separate the Nazis from Marx have no basis other than your say so. And, I am sure, the decades of academic misconduct in attempting to place them on the "right wing" of totalitarianism. Goldberg addresses the origin of that myth, as well. the sinner, Patrick Try actually reading their writings – even as Hitler rose to power. Or look at the policies, many have which are pointed out in this thread, which are directly derived from Marx. As indicated in the quote you took to respond to, read "Liberal Fascism." Mr. Goldberg does an excellent job (far beyond the capacity of anyone on this board) of historically tracing the origins of the Nazi party and what Hitler stood for. I would challenge you to show that there was a radical shift with Hitler. There wasn't.

In fact, some years ago, a friend linked to a Time article from the 30's, on another board, that claimed that there was just as much state control of business and the economy in Germany as there was in the Soviet Union, and that businesses that thought they were getting some "deal" or "partnership" were sadly mistaken.

Basically, the Nazis, before and under Hitler, believed in the centralization of the control of the means of production and distribution of goods and services, the elimination of the family as the cornerstone of society and replacing that foundation with the state. Though the Nazis didn't pursue the out-and-out elimination of religion as fiercely as the Soviets did, they did attempt to supplant it with a state-oriented pseudo-religion. This latter act was the same as the Soviets, and was a key component of Marx's theories (at least, in effect, if not in written "scripture").

Your (apparent) attempts to separate the Nazis from Marx have no basis other than your say so. And, I am sure, the decades of academic misconduct in attempting to place them on the "right wing" of totalitarianism. Goldberg addresses the origin of that myth, as well.

the sinner,

Patrick

]]> By: JustMe http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-233882 JustMe Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:01:35 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-233882 The point of my comment is that you cannot claim that a party is "Republican" merely because that is in their name. Furthermore, parties change what they stand for over time. The question is not the origination of the Nazi Party, but the Nazi Party when it became headed by Adolf Hitler. I challenge you to find that connection. The point of my comment is that you cannot claim that a party is "Republican" merely because that is in their name.

Furthermore, parties change what they stand for over time. The question is not the origination of the Nazi Party, but the Nazi Party when it became headed by Adolf Hitler. I challenge you to find that connection.

]]> By: Patrick http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-230626 Patrick Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:17:43 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-230626 But the Republican Guard never espoused anything remotely closed to what are commonly called Republican, or even republican, ideas. The Nazis were founded on Marxist thought. the sinner, Patrick But the Republican Guard never espoused anything remotely closed to what are commonly called Republican, or even republican, ideas. The Nazis were founded on Marxist thought.

the sinner,

Patrick

]]> By: JustMe http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-230006 JustMe Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:21:37 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-230006 "To them, I suggest they read Jonah Goldberg’s seminal book “Liberal Fascism” to learn the truth. The word Nazi was an acronym stemming from the German name for the National Socialist Party!" Might I add that Sadaam's elite force was called the Iraqi Republican Guard, so clearly they were Republicans. "To them, I suggest they read Jonah Goldberg’s seminal book “Liberal Fascism” to learn the truth. The word Nazi was an acronym stemming from the German name for the National Socialist Party!"

Might I add that Sadaam's elite force was called the Iraqi Republican Guard, so clearly they were Republicans.

]]> By: UselessDiss http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-228518 UselessDiss Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:21:37 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-228518 I'm familiar with Seraphim Rose, and that book (though I haven't read it). Once I saw a monk give it to a Catholic kid. I was hoping you would save me the work and tell me what Father Seraphim predicted about the future role of government. I'm familiar with Seraphim Rose, and that book (though I haven't read it). Once I saw a monk give it to a Catholic kid. I was hoping you would save me the work and tell me what Father Seraphim predicted about the future role of government.

]]> By: Teacher in Tejas http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-218018 Teacher in Tejas Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:12:29 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-218018 Uh Floyd. You do realize the Palmer raids were led by a Democrat, during a Democrat's administration, don't you? And the Nazis? Hmmm, tree huggers (psychologically the Nazis had a fetish for the agrarian life as bad as the communists had a fetish for BIG, BIG, BIG industry), free government run health care, generous old age pensions, limitations on private citizens rights to bear arms........Yeah, that all sounds pretty "right wing to me." Uh Floyd. You do realize the Palmer raids were led by a Democrat, during a Democrat's administration, don't you?

And the Nazis? Hmmm, tree huggers (psychologically the Nazis had a fetish for the agrarian life as bad as the communists had a fetish for BIG, BIG, BIG industry), free government run health care, generous old age pensions, limitations on private citizens rights to bear arms……..Yeah, that all sounds pretty "right wing to me."

]]> By: mrsmwp http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-3/#comment-217790 mrsmwp Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:37:50 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-217790 Testing Testing

]]> By: Patrick http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ebalogh/2009/02/19/opm-the-socialist-drug-of-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-217666 Patrick Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:20:11 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/?p=54470#comment-217666 I think the best way to get to that would be to google Seraphim Rose and Nihilism. The entire piece is online for free. Tage Lindbom's work is "The Myth of Democracy," which isn't too long but you'll probably have to order it online. As a warning - both of these works make fundamental assumptions that don't sit well with the average Western mindset. But if you simply want to read them for their historical perspective, then you'll be amazed how accurately, in my estimation, both track the course of history. Personally, I'm more in line with Father Seraphim Rose, but both works are great. the sinner, Patrick I think the best way to get to that would be to google Seraphim Rose and Nihilism. The entire piece is online for free. Tage Lindbom's work is "The Myth of Democracy," which isn't too long but you'll probably have to order it online. As a warning – both of these works make fundamental assumptions that don't sit well with the average Western mindset. But if you simply want to read them for their historical perspective, then you'll be amazed how accurately, in my estimation, both track the course of history. Personally, I'm more in line with Father Seraphim Rose, but both works are great.

the sinner,

Patrick

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