Earth Hour? Creator Hour!
by Doug TenNapelOur government dare not promote a national religion that refers to a traditional notion of God. We are collectively trained to avoid pushing our values onto others largely because relativism claims that there are no transcendent moral truths. But where we empty our lives of one religion, we don’t embrace neutrality, we just put some other dogma on the throne and claim “the debate is over.”
The worship and love of materials is our nation’s religion. I’d say it was a new religion, but it’s actually the oldest religion in the world, Paganism. Judeo-Christian values came from a pagan world with a radical new concept: the Creator, not the creation, should not be worshiped.
Recent leftist hysteria demands the removal of formal religion from public life. But they snuck in a new absolute for which we are not to argue. There’s no “true for you but not for me.” when it comes to the dogma of Global Climate Change. If someone tells me I have to change the light-bulbs in my house or I’m a bad person, I cannot reply, “Who are you to judge?” Their answer will likely start with something like, “Science says…” or “Everyone knows…” or a standard ad hominem like “racist,” “homophobe,” “anti-science,” or “Bible-thumper.”
My children aren’t allowed to hear about God in public school, but my seven-year-old daughter brings home Earth Day bullshit propaganda that instruct children to tell their parents to change light-bulbs, turn off lights, and re-use shopping bags. When my daughter obeys the national religion’s mandate I tell her, “Those aren’t our values. That’s not our religion. We don’t fear capitalism, and we pay for the energy we use. We believe in a God that is not the creation.”
I’d like to announce that Saturday, March 29th 28th from 8:30pm to 9:30pm local time is Creator Hour! We will make a statement that God’s illumination is the ultimate hope for mankind by turning on every light in the house for that one hour. Let your pagan neighbors self-flagellate themselves by depriving themselves of light. We need to make up for their lack of illumination by turning on yard lights, garage lights, maybe even start up the fireplace.
The Earth Hour website calls for us to “Vote Earth,” but I intend to cast my ballot for the other party: Vote Creator! Turn on the lights and show the pagans that illumination, inspiration, capitalism, creativity and sobriety in the face of hysterics is how we conquer our problems.
So, if you also have a higher opinion of the Creator than you do of fear-mongers, join me and turn on every unnecessary light you can from 8:30 to 9:30pm on the 29th 28th. I’m turning on my pool lights, I’ll light some tiki torches, and I’ll probably leave the fridge open for that hour just to make sure my carbon production offsets the liberal church-ladies shoving their religion down my throat.
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[...] Earth Hour? Creator Hour! [...]
These things irritate me to no end. New ways to accomplish nothing.
Instead of focusing on developing the industry and technology that will solve our problems, they just want to turn the lights out and cower in fear of a coming storm that they think they can forestall simply by shutting themselves down.
But don't you shove your religion down other people's throats? You keep talking about how it's ridiculous how the US doesn't have a "National religion" and other such shit.
And what if someone DOES have an earth based religion? Why are you being so incredibly disrespectful of them? "Because they attacked me first" is a crazy mentality, most real "hippies" are not terrible confrontational.
"So needless to say I won't be turning off all my lights and appliances; nor am I going to be turning everything on either. I'm going to go about my usual Saturday night of watching old movie reruns on AMC or TMC, ignoring the Earth Hour proponents."
You know, I know for absolute certain that you, Doug and the others would be in an almighty huff if someone showed this level of arrogance or disrespect towards religion, you do it all the time. Yet it's okay for you to do it?
"But happily science has debunked human-caused global warming already, even if the world political machine and fear-mongers have only yet begun with it."
No it hasn't. The majority of scientists back the idea of man made global warming. There is a small percentage that do not. In all likelihood, global warming exists and is man made, and there's just as strong a "political machine" on either side. Why should the rights' be so much weaker?
"pagans"
What's wrong with Pagans? Why should Christianity be protected from ridicule yet you get to tear into Pagans? A lot of pagans are very decent folk, who care for their children just like you do.
This mentality disgusts me. I dislike conservative politics just as much as you dislike liberal politics, but I don't take it out on "Christians" in general because plenty of Christians are great people.
"The majority of scientists back the idea of man made global warming. There is a small percentage that do not."
This is not true, it is the exact opposite of what is true. There are a few grant-whores who still believe they can deceive the "ignorant unwashed masses" about Global Warming, but the truth is out, and the facts do not support the conclusions. Sorry.
I had to read the original post again because it's so old.
What on earth are you talking about? This was an attempt to fight back in a small way against the relentless, 24/7 yammering about global warming that we hear these days. Man made global warming is treated as unquestionable fact, when it's simply not so.
We are sick of it.
Again, what are you yammering on about? No one is tearing down Pagans here. What we're sick of is this global warming quasi-religion that's being shoved down our throats at every turn! You don't see that?
Also "Non christian liberal culture" – that's not really something you can group together like that.
What's this then, exactly?
"The worship and love of materials is our nation’s religion. I’d say it was a new religion, but it’s actually the oldest religion in the world, Paganism. Judeo-Christian values came from a pagan world with a radical new concept: the Creator, not the creation, should not be worshiped."
Doug is ranting against Pagans and blaming them for what you percieve as global warming being shoved down your throat. He bitches and moans how people don't take his fundamentlist christian views seriously then levels attacks at paganism in general, as opposed to the lefties he hates so much who target fundamentalism rather than all christians.
WHY are you so sick of it? Most of the measures taken against global warming are things we should be doing anyway, and are common sense. You can't pump tons and tons of waste into the atmosphere and have it take no effect. At the very least, pollution is a bad thing, and wasting energy is a bad thing. The fact that people like you and Doug sneer at environmentalists saying how you're going to be purposeful wasteful shows your position is entirely reactionary – that's a stupid fucking thing to do, regardless of global warming.
Also, if you're so determined it's "Not fact", why don't you prove it with science? Why do you try to bump heads with scientists? Why not just become more active with science in general, because surely if you're right eventually that's the undisputed result that they will arrive at?
It's a minority of scientists that are claiming global warming doesn't exist. You're the one pushing a crazy conspiracy theory and some of us are getting sick of it. Nobody is outright intolerant of the idea that global warming is not man made. It's just that thus there's been far more evidence for than against. Obviously, you think otherwise, but you're not even considering the possibility your ridiculous conspiracy theory is false which is the root of the problem.
Yes, he is tearing down Pagans. He "yammers" on about Pagans in the blog entry here, "blaming" them for environmentalism. He wants his religious beliefs to be taken seriously but pisses over those of others.
Whether it's Pagans or whoever else promoting it, the idea that global warming is man-made is simply not true. Or at the very least, highly debatable. But no debate seems to be allowed. It's taken for granted that it's true, and we are constantly being preached at to change our lightbulbs, change our cars, buy "green" this or that. On and on it goes, every day. If you cannot see that, I'm not sure what I could do to convince you.
In other words, he is criticizing the movement itself. And that most certainly deserves to be criticized.
Thank you for proving the exact point of the original post: When it comes to the idea of man-made global warming, it's basically, 'YOU WILL BELIEVE THIS OR ELSE!' Your swearing, nasty tone and preaching is exactly what he was talking about in this post. There is not even room for discussion, only nastiness.
If he is criticising the movement, why does he constantly feel the need to bring up Pagans by name and blame them for the movement? This is no different from when people rant about something while blaming the jews for it in some insane manner.
"Simply not true", then you prove it. And you don't just pull up some random ass article that agrees with you. The majority of scientists, climate researchers who actually look at this problem, say it does. So "science" disagrees with you.
And yes, debate is allowed. There is constant debate. The problem is that most scientists do not feel comfortable debating people who are at the end of the day, anti-intellectual little shits. Just because YOU and YOUR view is not being taken seriously does not mean there is no debate. Nobody takes you seriously because you so frustratingly reactionary. And again this is very simply proven by your opposition to "green" issues being "Pushed" on you when it's something we should be doing anyway. Waste and pollution is bad, amazingly enough.
Religion is still heavily pushed on people, but you don't give a shit about that. Instead you just focus on where religion isn't, and wher environmentalism is and act like the world's collapsing.
Of course I'm being nasty. You're reactionary people and you're not going to react pleasantly no matter what way I put it to you. That doesn't mean I'm not right. It's far too easy to put a smiley face on a crock of shit, otherwise.
This isn't my opinion either. There's such a thing as the style over substance fallacy. I never said "You will believe this or else". This is an example of the delusion that causes me to be so "nasty" to you to begin with. Consistantly I said close to the opposite. In fact, I outright welcomed you to try and prove your opinion by getting involved with the scientific community.
If you could actually debate this like an adult instead of constantly trying to take argument that applies to you and stick it haphazardly on your opponent, I would treat you with respect. The fact is that you're flat out delusional and reading something into my posts that isn't there in your inane attempt to pigeon hole me. I don't think you have to believe in GLOBAL WARMING OR ELSE. I just wish you'd treat scientists, and the earth(given pollution is bad, regardless of global warming) with a little more respect.
Okay, what the hell, I remember making this post but it seems to have disappeared. Guess I clicked a wrong button.
This is what I mean when I say "arrogance". Saying "Sorry" and acting like it's a fact when you provide no evidence, is very arrogant.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-01/uo...
"They're the ones who study and publish on climate science. So I guess the take-home message is, the more you know about the field of climate science, the more you're likely to believe in global warming and humankind's contribution to it."
The fact is roughly 97% of Climate scientists, not idiots like you or me who rant at each other on some fundamentalist loonie's blog back the idea of human influence in global warming. These are people who actually make a living out of looking at this.
You specifically said this was not true, however it would be very hard to disprove these statistics. If you have some other serious gripes with global warming and it's human factor regardless of the vast majority then I suggest you bring it up with a climatologist, one of the 97% might be able to explain something to you. But you specifically said that there's only a "few grant-whores" backing the idea.
No big deal if you admit your mistake, but I don't see that coming. I've no idea now you're going to say Oh but they're GOVERNMENT FUNDED and there lies the bias. But, you still said a majority(and apparently government funding didn't matter then), and you were incorrect. If you could accept at least this we might get somewhere in this debate.
Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, . . . and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking non-sense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. (Augustine 1982, 42-43)
I still don't get, Doug, why you think it's okay to tear into Pagans in general and make them out to be cissies and environmental terrorists, whereas when anyone criticises Christianity you go on the serious defensive.
I think you'll find that most people on "my" side of things with this, as in most progressives in general do not make these kind of remarks about Christianity in general – just fundamentalist Christianity. Nobody's saying you have to teach evolution or global warming in the church, so please stop trying to push religion into science, especially if you're going to insult other religions while doing so. This is not the same as tearing into Christians the same way you have done pagans and environmentalists.
At the end of the day the earth is something we know for sure exists and know for sure that pollution hurts in a way that comes back to hurt us. It potentially affects everyone of every faith or no faith, and at the end of the day while we can hurt the earth, it'll most likely survive and WE'LL be the ones to suffer. This "creator not the creation" crap has to stop. I doubt if your God did create the earth, he'd appreciate you pissing all over it in his name.
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