Comments on: Octuplets Mom vs. Your Arguments

By: Lars Brown

Lars Brown — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:47:10 +0000

I agree, Doug.

I'm not happy if the rumors are true that she expected either the government or her slight notoriety/fame to get her money take care of the kids. Her family had stated that she (or they?) had the resources to take care of the children, which would be a better situation.

But these children are in the world now, and I pray that they are taken care of by their loving mother and family.

Meanwhile something does have to be done about a situation where women are implanted with many embryos just to have one child, ready to abort the others, or freezing fertilized eggs. It's time to stop breaking fetuses to make babies, so to speak.

By: Hugh

Hugh — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:35:15 +0000

In fairness to Doug, I don't think his post is condoning the actions of Suleman or making her the poster-child for the Pro-Life movement. It's his observation of the hypocritical and misplaced "WRATH" that this woman is enduring that he finds fascinating. I mean come-on guys, think. She only made press because of the sensational nature of her case. And it is sensational. But how many other welfare cases go by us un-noticed, week to week? And the government PROGRAMS that support those multitudes? Their wasteful fallouts DWARF those from Octomom!There will always be stupid, opportunistic people taking advantage of society's graces. Uncompromising conservatives spending government money wisely will reduce their behavior. Let's keep our anger in check here!

By: TexasMikey

TexasMikey — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:38:27 +0000

I have to respectfully disagree on this one. I don't see this lady as anything other than a drain on society. Responsibility by all parties was non-existent. It was irresponsible of her AND her doctor to make this decision, and the taxpayers are holding the bill.
Further, as the lovely Ann Coulter points out.: Victim of violent crime? Thank a single mother. Well in this case there are 14 potential criminals now. Kids with no father figures, kids with an obviously disturbed mother figure. It doesn't bode well for their future.
Do I think she should have aborted them after making the horrible decision to have 14 children? No. But you and I and even her own mother knows that she is incapable of providing these kids with a healthy environment to be raised in. Adoption would have let this bad decision bring happiness to some couples' lives.

By: Mr. Incredible

Mr. Incredible — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:57:35 +0000

Is Octomom the same woman, who, in a newscast sound bite, said that, cuz the Dear Leader, Obammy, was elected, she won't have to pay for anything — like gas for her car, nor the house payment — anymore? Or is that another one?

By: Des

Des — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:34:04 +0000

Well, if we know it's accurate, then the next question is why. First, there are crazy people among us, and I'm sure a portion of the calls came from the same type of people who always threaten famous people (literally no reason other than they're in the news). There are radically pro-life people, and I wouldn't put it past some of them to be so upset about the way she chose to conceive the kids (being implanted with 7 while already having kids) that they would do something as stupid as phoning in an anonymous threat. You're also going to find some whack-jobs who are upset that she's "abusing" her children by having 14 in a house that only has 3 bedrooms (and about to be foreclosed on). Toss in those who are pissed because she's obviously doing this with taxpayer's money, and you have enough idiots who have no idea how to express themselves in a way more mature than your typical junior high school kid (prank calls). It's sad, but unfortunately predictable.

As for any Pro-Choice people defending her rights, I wouldn't expect to hear from them. She's not going to stir up much enthusiasm for public defense (even if some feel that way privately, where's their motivation to go stand in front of a camera?), and the people who might want to garner political capital will shy away because of the very real possibility that she's crazy and a potential danger to the children. I'm sure there are people out there who support her absolute right, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to get on a show like O'Relly's and defend it.

By: Burrrbank

Burrrbank — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:05:50 +0000

The author clearly knows little about Octomom. The main outrage is that we, California taxpayers, have been and will continue to pay for this menagerie of 14 children, their mother, and most likely her parents (her mother is currently $23,000 behind in mortgage paymernts, and she declared bankruptcy and lost another home 2 years ago) for the rest of their lives. Octomom has been on "disability" for a bad back for 10 years now, but has gone through 6 pregnancies since then (there is one set of twins and the current brood of 8). She went on TV with Ann Curry and lied about not being on public assistance. The outrage stems from her behavior, not the 14 children resulting from that behavior.

By: MovieBob

MovieBob — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:44:50 +0000

I'm very much on the side that says there's too man damn humans sucking up food, air and resources on this rock as it is, and that anyone who's NEVER looked at one of these baby-laden possum-women with just a LITTLE bit of disgust hasn't been to a movie theater in the daytime recently.

BUT, as far as I'm concerned, crazy-lady here can have as many kids as she damn well wants. Free country. BUT I don't wanna pay for any of it. Let her have her brood, and let the nine (fourteen) of `em survive on their own merits like everyone else. If she/they can do it? Awesome. Good on her. Hurrah for triumph over the odds. If not, well… Natural Selection, man.

By: Mr. Incredible

Mr. Incredible — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:15:31 +0000

==Murdering children because of the irresponsiblity of their parents is not right. It's not the child's fault how they came into the world. ==

In the immigration debate, Libs like to argue that children of the illegals shouldn't have to pay for the crimes of the parents.

In the pro-choice = pro-abortion = wrong-choice debate, Libs like to argue that the unborn children SHOULD pay for the crime of the parents.

By: Susan Montgomery

Susan Montgomery — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:10:46 +0000

It's not that she had the kids. The issue is that she had them artificially. She so did not have to do that. She deliberately got herself knocked up. Those kids would not be here if she had let nature take its course, which was no course. Now that the kids ar here, well, they need care and love and all of the things taxpayers don't need to pay for (other than for their own own families) these days. So that is why people hate her. I know I can't stand the sight of her.

By: Doug TenNapel

Doug TenNapel — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:59:12 +0000

Des,
the reason why I wrote this piece was because the publicity group dropped her because not only did they receive over 100 death threats, but their clients unrelated to Suleman started getting threats.

Suleman isn't what fascinates me…it's our culture's knee jerk response of hatred, judgement and proclamation of her insanity that interests me. I'd probably trace it back to the zero population growth (ZPG) hysteria inserted into our narrative since the 60s and carried on today in Climate Change dogmas.

It's the Pro Choicers specifically who jettisend their arguments so quickly in this case. I'm waiting to hear a few Pro Choicers post in support of Suleman's absolute right to do this to her body regardless of the health of her offspring. Fascinating.