thanks

You will need to be able to read German for a lot of these documents.

thegermanpolice.com

LOS ANGELES (Dec. 28) – A publisher has canceled a Holocaust memoir with an amazing love story publicized by Oprah Winfrey after the writer admitted he made up parts, putting the book on a growing list of tall tales.
Berkley Books, an imprint of the Penguin Group, said it was canceling “Angel at the Fence, The True Story of a Love that Survived” after receiving new information from writer Herman Rosenblat’s agent.

That is something all Jewish organizations operating in the USA do not want. Anyone raising any questions regarding the Jewish plight immediately gets branded anti-semetic or holocaust denier and is marginalized. So have they brainwashed western society
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Newflash for all you ignoramuses – “Jew” is not a race, it’s a religion. Jews come in all colors. Duh.

That,is what 99% of the USA inhabitants do not understand. Unfortunately no one will enlighten them to that fact because it is not in the best interest of Israel or the southern evangelists. Basically american peoples historical knowledge other than the BS fed by the media is bismal
Many mid/eastern europeans converted to judaism during the middle ages
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why do the overwhelming majority seem to be leftist pacifists?
My term would be socialist,communist
which raises rhe question “how many stayed and or went to the eastern side of the iron curtain after WWII. The Ruskies certainly did not divulge that information.
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The question I have is why Hollywood keeps churning out these embelished sagas of half truths 65 years after the fact.
I wish they would make one about the plight of the Palestinians who got caught up in a situation not of their own making and have lived a life of misery over the past 50+ years
Here is another idea for a great movie “The Katyn Massacre”

1. How many fights did they have with Germans. Can he pin point some precise details like dates, places, number of killed on German side etc. Can he pointed out some other than Jews’s sources for those details (ie: Germans files – I’m sure they recordered some engagements with Bielski’s partisans, Polish files or Soviets files)?

2. They operated in Naliboki Forrest on Polish-Soviets border. How they cooperated with local civilians?

3. Did Bielski Brothers have problems with organizing food for their family camp and how they solved that problem?

4. Does he know anything about Izrael Kesler Group? Does he know what they were doing in Bielski camp. Does he know why and how Izrael Kesler died?

Thats just few of them, but I think the most important is first one. I would be stronlgy interested in answering to that one.

cheers

Stephen

But as it is hard for me not to agree with you on almost every other issue, this post about movie “Defiance” and some of commentaries struct me with complete lack of knowledge about real life of Bielski’s brothers and their
family camps in Naliboki Forrest.

I am aware that for some of you, what you will read in this post might blow your mind and you will simply refuse to believe in it. So don’t take my words for granted. If you are interested in this subject do your own research and find out for yourself what was really going on in “Jerusalem” and what Bielski’s were doing during WW2.

Please don’t missunderstand me. I know history o Jews in II World War a bit. I know about their truly HEROIC fight in Jewish Upraising in ghetto in Warsaw in 1943
(do not mistake it with Warsaw Upraising done by Polish Home Army in 1944) and I admire them for that.
But the reason for writing this post is my awarness that most of you guys are not familiar with WW2 history of Poland, Ukraine and other Easter Europeans countries. And as far as I am aware, this blog was created to fight with bias and lies on other grounds in your country and to stand up for what you believe in.
So I hope that you will be open to hear some real facts about Bielski’s brothers. Because distortion about them
and history of many other Jews in Poland is unfairly affecting my country which is hard to accept for me.

If you have any questions after reading this post I will try to answer them or direct you to reliable sources.

So let’s put some facts on the table.

1. There were actually 4 Bielski’s brothers: Tewje (Tuvia), Asael, Zus and Aron. Youngest of them –
Aron Bielski (he changed his surname to Bell from 1951) together with his wife Henryka Bell is currently charged of kidnapping 93 yers old polish lady Janina Zaniewska living in Florida and stealing from her about $250 000 (for more details look here: http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_World&set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20071121084723893C775798 )

2. Bielski’s Brothers were operated in Naliboki Forest between 1942-1944 (before WW2 it was Polish-Russian border) and there were 2 “family camps” organized by Jews. First one Jerosolima (about 950 people included lots of women and children) were runs by Bielski’s Brothers and has about 162 armed peple. Second one (about 560 people, mostly Jews escaped from ghettos) was commanded by Simcha Zorin and had 73 armed people.
The main goal for this family camps was not to fight with Germans but to survive the war. On the other hand,
these forests were controlled by Soviets and they do not tolerate any military activity that was not
approved by them. They controlled the family camps and required them to delegate armed man for so called
“actions”(very often those actions were aimed at polish civilians and Polish Home Army (PHA), not Germans).

3. Polish civilians living near Naliboki Forrest were regularly raided for food confiscations not only by soviets, but also by armed groups from those family camps, and as reported by Polish Home Army (PHA) to HQ
– they were most cruel from all (beside Soviets, Germans and Jews partisans also ordinary robbers were
operating there). Polish civilians were complaining to PHA that Bielecki’s and Zorin’s partisans were
abusing them, raping women and children and threaten that if they don’t give them food and animals
Soviets will burn them to the ground. So PHA has requested from Soviets to stop sending Bielecki’s people
for food confiscation ( ie. meeting with Soviets command on 8 June 1943).

4. According to Jozef Marchwinski, Tuvia’s assistance for some time, “there were four of Bielski’s brothers, strong and handsome lady-killers for women in family camps. They were quick to alcohol and girls but very slow to fight. The oldest one,Tuvia, were commanding not only all Jews in family camp, but also a beautifull and not small “harem” like king Saud in Saudi Arabia. In the camp, where Jews families very often were going to bed hungry, where mothers where tried to feed their babies with dry brests, begging for additional spoon of soup for their babies – in this camp another live was flourish, other rich world. In Bielecki’s dug-outs and their closest people, tables were heavy from food and drinks, and large bunch of beautiful women always encircles Tuvia and his 3 brothers. Those women doesn’t know hunger and poorness. They were always beautifully dressed and full of expensive jewerly, and never used their delicate white
hands for work”. From Soviets reports: “Tuvia Bielski doesn’t engage in fight but he is speculate in units. He was taking from his partisans gold to buy guns but instead of buying guns he kept gold for himself.” Tuvia himself in his memories published in Palestine in 1947 emphasizes that his “Jerosolima”: “never antered in action with occupant”.

5. The Institute of National Remembrance in Poland is currently running an investigation about pacification of Naliboki village done by Soviets and Bielski’s partisans and this is qualified as a communist crime and crime against humanity ( 128 people were slaughtered ).
The villagers have a really bad luck. Naliboki village was excactly on route for Bielski’s men heading to the Naliboki forrest and for Soviets units coming back from the forrest. Many times food and animals were confiscated from them, women were raped and some men killed. So at some point when villagers saw them coming they ring church bells to warn other villages and men were preparing themselves for defending their households. That annoyed Bielski’s very much, but Soviets even more. So in 8 of may 1943 at 5am they surrounded village and within 2 hours they sloughtered 128 people, mostly when sleeping in beds.

These are just handfull of information about real history of Bielski’s brothers. And I hope you will
spend a minute to think about them. It’s not so cristal clear like some people wants. They saved many
Jews over there, but the price for that was high. They do almost no fight with Germans, 90 percent of their
time they spent on organizing food (through robbery and confiscations) which affects badly civilians
living in the area (mostly polish ones).

I like to watch movies about courage,heroism and rightness but when they are based on true stories I prefer they are simply correct with basic facts.I am deeply sorry for Jews for what they experienced from Germans during Holocaust. I also know few heroic stories about them but history of Bielski’s brothers is not one of them.

Stephen

p.s.

Some polish organizations and people were send those information to Edward Zwick and production company
but they were ignored.