She is hot. It is more of a social problem that people seem to think the world is their bedroom and go around dressing like slobs everywhere.

oh thank you for pointing this out, i was beginning to think i saw the interview wrong. this girl has got some growing up to do, not to mention why the heck this dad is keeping an eye on anything but what is walking naked around his place!

Have you ever seen Hilary Swank and Matt Damon in the same room together?

Think about it.

She isn't naive she is rebeling against her parents who were total squares. You know Daddy was the alpha hard guy and Mom made sure the house was clean and did the socializing and made sure her kids looked nice, had manners. Apparently Hillary felt constrained in learning DISCIPLINE….but I digress…

And I have been wondering about that to John……..could Hillary Swank and Matt Damon be the same person…?

That is matter anti-matter meeting. It would be the end of the universe.

Someone ask the boy if the carpet matches the drapes? Inquiring minds want to know.

She looks like Matt Damon in drag.

Seriously, I don't get the sudden obsession with women who have lantern jaws: Swank, Olivia Wilde … is it the whole metrosexuality thing?

What's the big deal? Kids who grow up in nudist/naturist environments are far healthier than kids who are repressed. It's just the human body, it's no big deal! Nudity does not equal sex!!!

personal freedom taken to the extreme is tyranny. this is a perfect example of that concept.

while i am fond / tolerant of the conservative version of "soft libertarianism" the libertarian movement needs to acknowledge and remember to keep balance in "freedom" issues.

this is why i espouse conservative concepts. freedom cannot survive without virtue. absolute freedom will devolve into tyranny just as the other side of the argument that pushes "equality for all" devolves into a type of marxist tyranny.

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I have to agree with Joe. It really does depend on what is "normal" for kids. In a culture where clothes are optional nudity really isn't sexual. NOW, that said, this isn't *our* culture. And in my experience, with my four kids, they sort of seem to discover modesty for themselves at about age seven. Now…mutual nudity in our household ended about the time the kids outgrew diapers, so we're far from nudist sorts but I still wouldn't start to worry too much about the kids *until* they're somewhere around, yes, six or seven. By then they'll be aware of their own modesty and be aware that the cultural norm is actually for clothes.

At 6, he will find the nude adult female strangely compelling. He won't know why, but he will. He is way too old for her to be naked in front of.

That is a lucky six year old.

And a very niave and self indulgent airhead giving him the peep show. It sounds to me like she does it on purpose (like her comments) for the attention. What a surprise…

Well, it's time to stop walking around nude. If it was okay before, it isn't since he started school. Trust me, he will mention it to a classmate and get the sexuality introduced into it. Learned my first dirty joke in first grade. Sneaking around with a friend's dad's Playboy at second grade. And that was in the much more benign late sixties. Or was it just harder to get exposed to this stuff.

I'm 50/50 on this one. My family owns a sauna, and we often did coeds. However, at about the age 6 – 8 we'd do just boys or just girls, no more coed. People still give me grief about seeing my parents nude. For the life of me I don't even remember anything. It's silly to make a big deal about it.

HOWEVER- this 6 year old boy is not her child. All he sees is a naked woman sleeping with his dad. That to me is pretty damn unacceptable, and pretty gross. Not to mention, unless you're bathing, why are you nude? Ugh, yucky!

If this was her own child or guardian than I feel that she should have the choice in a decision of clothing or not but considering this is her boyfirends child some restraint and ethics should be used here, one would think

I dunno, Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves made a movie together. If that "cosmic convergence of cheesiness" (as Mike Nelson called it) didn't end the world I don't think anything man made can.

This the kinda gross i gotta say attactive girl but well i don't know boyfriend mean's nothing these day's in hollywood it's more like boy toy. It just get's worse everyday and so on a bad example for kid's a very bad example.

I suggest she expand her outreach and give the rest of us a peek.

They purposely chose and unflattering picture here. I think she looked good in Million Dollar Baby.

Having "a square go with your dad" reminded me right away of Police Academy 2, when Kirkland's father and brother pounded the crap out of each other. Could only find it in Deutche. Still just as funny and psycho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8a0plVRiTQ

There are numerous studies done that show that children who are exposed to sexuality at a young age – witnessing or being victim of a sex act, seeing pornography, seeing naked members of the opposite sex, etc. – is really damaging to their future growth. It affects their relationships and their perceptions about all sorts of things. Many of these kids end up as substance abusers or petty criminals.

But I think what is most disconcerting about this whole thing is that the boy's father doesn't seem to see anything wrong with it. At what point does he man up and say, "hey, put some clothes on around my kid"? He's a parent. It's his job to protect his child.

Ok. His dad is sleeping with a woman who is not his mother, and not his diad's wife. She sleeps naked and the little boy sees her naked.

This is American' values, Obama-style. Don't get all wee-wee'd up.

I have a son and all I can say is ewwwwwww! Not something I would have wanted in his memory bank as a grown up

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Ever see the billboard that shows kids on a bus. It has the caption, "This bus driver knows who your child has a crush on. Do you?" or something like that. As an elementary school bus driver, I overhear LOTS. I can tell you that they are thinking sexually. It may be immature and silly…but they ARE thinking it. Just a couple of days ago, I had one kid tell me that another kid was talking about "hunching pillows". A couple of months ago, I had a PRE-K child telling other kids she wanted to have sex with them. She was a bit more graphic than I care to share here. When I reported it to the vice-principal, we both were wondering just what in the world has this kid been exposed to.

You may be the progenitor of three, but you have no idea how to be a father, nor have you an understanding of children.

There is nothing inherently wrong with nudity. In this modern USA culture we seem to make a big thing about it. The more perverted and sensational the better for the media likes it! Everyday nudiity gets rather boring over time. Anyone who lives in or visits a nudist park will tell you that. Also, consider that societies have been naked or nude for centuries, all with few problems, if any. It isn't so much the state of our dress, as it is the state of our minds. Doesn't it say in the bible that God created Adam and Eve in his own image? It must have been good because women keep having babies and most of them are born naked. Is there any truth to the saying that "If God wanted mankind to run around naked, he would have made him that way!"

I'm in my 40s but I vividly remember quite a bit from my childhood quite vividly, not only what I did and what happened to me but what people told me and what I was thinking at the time. If you want, I can go on for pages writing the things I remember so it's not just really notable experiences but I remember very mundane stuff like realizing I could ask for water from my crib, really hearing the crickets for the first time and wondering what they were, sitting with my parents watching Star Trek and wishing they'd change that boring show to watch something more fun (the episode was That Which Survives and I was 3 at the time it aired on NBC), and negotiating with my parents to get rid of my bottle by the time I was 4 because big boys didn't use bottles (I didn't want to switch to cups because cups could spill and I'd get yelled at for that — kids today get sippy cups). These aren't things my parents told me after the fact (my mother died before I turned 7) and the memories are so specific I can tell you where people and things were in the room and what things looked like (that's how I know which Star Trek episode it was — that episode has a very distinct look to it).

Other things I remember vividly? I remember being potty trained. I remember not wanting to wipe myself and trying to keep getting my parents to do it because they seemed to have an easier time cleaning me than I did cleaning myself. My mother tried to teach me to wipe front to back from behind, which I never understood at the time now I do understand it. I remember the white plastic seat that my parents bought for the toilet and the removable shield, which I also remember being told that it came off because little girls didn't need it and wondering about that. I remember a little girl peeking in on me through the vent slats on the door as I used the single user bathroom in my kindergarten class the first and only time (we normally used to big bathroom across the hall several times a day), because I had developed diarrhea. The name Hillary comes to mind when I picture her face. I also remember a younger neighbor girl using our bathroom with the door open and me struggling simultaneously with the a compelling (as Buck_Turgidson described it well) curiosity to watch her and guilt over wanting to watch her because I knew it was naughty that worked out in my little 4 or 5 year old brain into awkwardly telling my mother and her mother that she shouldn't leave the door open because it was attracting me to watch (heck, it's still feel the same uncomfortable awkwardness writing about it here, but I think it's too relevant and important to the topic at hand avoid).

In other words, I can not only remember things I did back to when I was 2 or 3 but I can even remember what I was thinking at the time and I know for certain that I had rudimentary sexual awareness and curiosity certainly by the time I was 6. Heck, one of the first words I learned was the name of another neighbors youngest daughter who would come over and play with me and I'd call her name because I had a crush on her. And based on what I remember other children saying and doing before and during kindergarten, I'm fairly certain I wasn't a one-off freak in that regard. And then there was Jimmy in second grade, the great artistic kid who was able to draw (what I realize now were) anatomically correct adult genitalia on the cute little naked cherubic valentine couple popular in the early 1970s. He must have been 7 or 8 at the time. How do you think he learned that and when? Do you really think little boys change that much in a year or two from 6 to 7 or 8?

There was a segment on 20/20 several years ago where they took a bunch of young boys pretty young (maybe 6-8) whose parents let them watch movies with sexually suggestive jokes who fervently believed that the adult jokes would go over their heads, much as Hillary Swank thinks her nudity goes over the boy's head, and they put the boys in a room alone with a hidden camera with the movie Ace Ventura: Pet Detective on a TV and when the parents heard what their sweet little boys were saying with no adults in the room their jaws dropped to the floor. The children got a lot of it. I don't know what leads adults to believe that children are so naive and oblivious (perhaps extreme discomfort at the idea of children thinking sexually) but I clearly remember having a great deal of curiosity and picked up on a great many things by the time I was 6, even if I didn't fully understand what I was seeing or feeling all of the time and got some things very wrong. At 1 or 2, it's reasonable to assume that children won't notice or understand things because their brains aren't fully wired yet (few people remember anything before they are 2). But at 6? You can't just assume it's going over their heads.

Proof that celebs have mental disorders

This column couldn't possibly be more right on. As an adult (or even as a teenager), I couldn't wish for anything more than a nude Hillary Swank walking around my house (especially not related to me). As a child, such a thing interferes with your natural development. We tend to look at these things too much from our adult perspective, but the fact is that it alters the way that child will view sexuality in perpetuity. It will alter the way he treats little girls in his pre-pubescent years, and it will probably alter the way he views girls as a teenager (like we need any more encouragement to look at women as sex objects?). If this was a 35 year-old man parading in front of a 6 year-old girl naked (one who wasn't related to him), the cops would be there in 15 minutes and we'd all applaud them. At some point we have to stop acting like sexualizing boys is a good thing, even if we remember back to those days of emerging sexuality fondly ourselves.

Of course if Hillary wants to parade around my house naked, I agree to take full responsibility for the consequences to my psyche.

Really, would you expect anything less from another piece of hollywood shit ?

Swank? I think you meant "skank".

LOL come to think of it, I haven't.

I think that you are correct, in that, that is NOT her son. Hell I've seen my mother nude while growing up, I mean who hasn't. But it wasn't an every day thing, and again it is my mother, not my dad's ole lady. Sounds to me that she, Swank, is going for Hollywood shock cred.

It's not sudden for me. I've always found such women attractive. I'll ignore the inferred slight to my masculinity.

I don't get why big-breasted blondes like Pamela Anderson are so obsessed over. But some folks obviously do. No skin off my nose.

Joe, let me pose this question – if you divorced and your exwife had a boyfriend who slept over. How would you feel if your 6 year old daughter entered the bedroom and the boyfriend's, excuse me, franks and beans were all out in the open? Would you be so open that it is okay she sees that? Would you let yourself be seen naked by a friend's 6 year old boy or girl?

She's not the boy's mother and they are not a family. She is merely boffing the boy's father and shame on HIM for 1) parading daddy's latest conquest around, which has got to confuse the heck out of his son and for 2) not telling Hills to cover up around his child.

There's a psychotherapist in Beverly Hills who's going to get rich off of that kid.

The kid will get confused and maybe belligerent when he expects all other women/girls to give him a free peep show.

We *are* racists when we are born. At least we do have, inherently, a mistrust of the "other" because that is a survival instinct that works and has worked for a million years. So it would be more accurate to say that we are to some extent, by nature, xenophobic. We are also, by nature, and for the same reason, fascinated and drawn to the "other" because that also has significant survival advantages.

This is just a nit, you understand.

And modesty is far different from shame.

BTW, it's a terrible, horrible thing if a child is sexually abused, but equating the secret, don't-tell-anyone-or-else, shame of sexual abuse with a casual acceptance of social nudity is ridiculous.

If it's family or public bathing in Japan or topless beaches in Europe, it's not going to scar a child for life any more than if they've grown up in tribal Africa and all the women go topless.

My ick factor in Swank's situation kicks in just because she's sleeping with her "boyfriend" with his kid around. That would be the same if she wore flannel jammies with feet.

To make your visual stronger–think about the level of the 6-year old eyes in relation to an adult body.

What do you mean 'I would certainly take advantage of it if that's what turned her on!.' Being nude in front of a 6-year-old is a turn on now and that's ok as long as you're there to take advantage of it?

I'm sure your mom (or dad) didn't blab it out to the local press that you saw them in the buff.

I THINK SHE IS GIVING TOO MUCH OF A SHOW TO THE 6 YEAR OLD IF HE WAS 2 IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT THING .BELIEVE ME KIDS UNDERSTAND ALOT MORE AT YOUNGER AGES THAN WE DID AS KIDS . THEY LEARN AN AWEFUL LOT FROM FREINDS WHO'S PARENTS LET THEM SEE A LITTLE TOO MUCH GROWN UP STUFF . SHE BETTER START WEARING A LITTLE NIGHT GOWN AND DAD BETTER START WEARING HIS JOCKEYS AROUND THE HOUSE .

While Russ might be sincere and I think a kid won't be scarred by seeing nudity if they're not taught to feel guilty about it, it's such a wide open area for misunderstanding and exploitation that there should be some real taboo on nudity. For instance communes that featured nudity often as part of their experience in hindsight often turned out to be havens for child molesters. Once again even if nudity is harmless it's liberals who will find a way to make it dangerous or go terribly wrong.

I really didn't mean it as a slight, I just can't imagine why a man would be attracted to a manly feature like a big jaw (or why some perfectly straight men like women with cleft chins).

And I'll agree on Pam Anderson, but that's largely because she's entirely plastic and her features are exaggerated.

"Hes just not letting on, out of fear that youll put some clothes on. In fact, he cant believe his luck.

I'd agree with this except that Hilary Swank looks like a 6 year-old boy herself.

Seriously, I find nothing attractive about her and I don't understand the fuss over her acting. -shrug-

I still feel sorry for Hilary for losing out on the title role in "Seabiscuit."

Can I sleep over?

We're way too hung up on the naked body thing.
I suppose that it's a vestige of our silly,superstitious religious indoctrination from early childhood.
The reason that almost all religions shy away from sex/nudity/procreation is because once you see it and do it,it becomes quite obvious that we're just part of the animal kingdom and nothing near "holy" or in the "image of something holy".
We're nothing more than horny primates that wear clothing and the church wishes to hide this from the people for as long as humanly possible.

No,we do not "have to be taught to be racists".
What is considered racism by contemporary emotional types is a natural biological desire to be with those that are like ourselves.
It is multi-culti nuts that are behind the attempt to destroy this normal healthy behavior in children which ends up having catastrophic results to white women who think that they shouldn't take another elevator when there's a single black man on it because "it would look racist" and "might hurt his feelings"
The actress Kelly McGillis learned that lesson the hard way when she opened the door to two black males who ended up gang raping her.
She being a young,liberal actress in NY no doubt had the same training.
She learned to abandon that propaganda REAL GOOD!.

She is exactly what we all thought of her…..classless, talentless, over-rated, and, oh yes, egocentric.

I think you need to go lie down.

The concern I have is that if this kid grows up in a household where it's normal for him to see unrelated adults naked, it might leave him open to child molestation in a different situation. If, say, his babysitter started walking around the house naked when the two of them were there alone, he probably wouldn't think it was so weird because he'd be used to his dad's girlfriend doing it.

I don't think there's anything shameful about the human body, but I do think that kids should learn that some parts of people's bodies are private.

This has nothing to do with 'toe the party line' since I am not a republican in any official capacity whatsoever. It was obviously a joke, since I cannot revoke anyone's 'card.' The liberal attitude of the post I replied to just doesn't match any republican or conservative that I know.

'So what if a kid's eye level is at genital for an adult? In Swank's case I think a six year old would be looking her in the floating rib, not the genitals. ' I don't think you have enough information to make that assertion, since you do not know how tall the 6 year old is and where his eyesight falls. Swank is not related to him, which really increases the 'creepy' factor for me. I do not understand how you can say that if walking around naked in front of the kid is treated as normal it's no big deal. Following that twisted argument, if they start having sex in front of him and just treat is as normal that should be ok. You don't want to have sex in front of your kids- fine, knock yourself out. Don't get all hot and bothered if someone else chooses to do so. But that is where you would have a problem with it, and that's hypocritical.

You never know when a six year old will start developing sexual feelings when looking at a naked, especially not biologically related, opposite sex body. It really is not about nudity. It's about boundries. And when there are no boundries as far as nudity goes, all the other boundries start to get fuzzy.

To assume that children are not sexual beings, and do not have sexual impulses and feelings that can be triggered when being exposed to adult sex organs, is just ignorant. Also, to deny the power imbalance a grown adult has over a child is likewise ignorant and insensitive. Children ARE sexual beings and can have sexual feelings and can become stimulated when exposed to naked bodies, just like adults do.

And what about the father? Why is he letting this happen?

"Repressed." Ah, the stirring cry of the weirdo who tries to convince himself that his proclivities are healthy while the other 99% of us are abnormal.

I don't know one flippin wup about Swank except that's an awful but perhaps appropriate stage name.

From what I see from that particular head shot, which probably isn't fair at all is she sort of looks like Sandra Bernhard's younger, prettier sister without the gap. . .

It appears she has a tight little body, but her face. . . I don't know, she just looks related somehow to the Berndard clan an well – YIKES!

wondering how the real mom of this 6 year old feels … knowing that her son, while visiting dad, gets to see the current girlfriend naked. if i were her, i would print out the article and ask family court to modify visitation.
adults are so selfish and kids are screwed.

Oh, I don't think you're right about that. A number of people on either side of the political divide have expressed disgust and dismay at the popularity of violent role-playing videogames such as the "grand Theft Auto" series and how such games are desensitizing young males to extreme violence. Several prime crime dramas have made episodes featuring young perps who committed violent crimes after long exposure to violent "first-person shooter" videogames.

Think about WHY they can become stimulated…. it is because adults make nudity out to be such a big deal. Children see how adults and society at large deal with it, and they take their cues from such, unless their parents can set a different standard.

Do you guys honestly believe that casual nudity harms children? You are saying that the human body harms children. That's preposterous. It is the attitudes and behaviors that can cause harm, and they can do so whether clothed or nude!

It isn't yours either. Let me say this again, you are saying that the human body is doing harm to that child. I am not sure my writing abilities can illuminate the ridiculousness of that proposition.

Put it this way: A child sees a puppy, but it is friendly, it wags its tail and wants to play with the kid, no problems there right? Now say the puppy isn't friendly, and when the child gets too close it growls and makes threatening moves, the kid will be scared, no? The effect of the puppy on the kid had nothing to do with the puppy itself, it had to do with its behavior and attitude.

To carry that over to nudity, if Hillary Swank was just sleeping, or even just going about her business at home, nude and she isn't behaving any differently than her usual, where will the harm come from? If, on the other hand, she makes advances on the kid, then harm would indeed arise because as you said, the child is too young to understand sex or to deal with it properly.

I want to draw your attention to the fact that Hillary Swank could make advances on the kid while clothed, and it would still be harmful to him. Her state of dress is irrelevant, it is her behavior and attitude that matters, as it is with a whole lot of other things in life.

He doesn't look twice because he is embarrassed. I promise you, this kid will turn into a butt pirate by age 14.

I guess I have trouble comprehending how being naked in front of a child could be considered 'doing something wrong'.
I'm far more concerned that you automatically associate naked with sexual.
Donald Duck wears a sailor's shirt, but no pants. Is he being sexual or just a tease?

What arguments like yours miss is that it has everything to do with one's assumptions about context, i.e. social norms. C. S. Lewis explained it best in his essay on sexual morality in Mere Christianity:

The social rule of propriety lays down how much of the human body should be displayed … according to the customs of a given social circle. … A girl in the Pacific islands wearing hardly any clothes and a Victorian lady completely covered in clothes might both be equally 'modest', proper, or decent, according to the standards of their own societies.

I urge you to read the whole thing.

Like it or not, our society defines propriety in such a way as to render Ms. Swank's proclivity for casual nudity decidedly improper. This kid is going to be confused, because it's unlikely that others in his social sphere are also being subjected to regular vistas of grown women (to whom they are not related) in the nude; and it's unlikely, aside from the Internet and cable television, that he will see such behavior regarded as normal elsewhere.

I'm far more concerned that you automatically associate naked with sexual.

You must be equally concerned with hundreds of millions of human males making the same automatic association. Otherwise, magazines like Playboy are making billions of dollars for no apparent reason.

I have visited tribes in Vanuatu where the people live in the Stone Age and pretty much walk around naked. There isn't a big problem with people being over exposed to seeing naked bodies at age six. What about the statues of naked Greek gods and goddesses in the museum? I think this whole kerfluffle comes down to people OWN attachments — get over yourselves.

I thought that people read Playboy for the articles. that's what they always tell me anyway.

Prudes all over… nothing wrong with nudity. And kids don't 'go crazy' after seeing a naked person.

Wow, all this chat about nakedness… 50% of the population has a penis. 50% has a vagina. Why is it that the most common things are so 'evil'…

get over it. Power to you Hillary.

Child molesters? Wow, where is your data on that one Underling?

Prudes tend to also be extremely closed minded… oh, and likely religious

Nude is not lewd. It's a much different story if the kid's in the room when the adults are being intimate. This kid may very well grow up with a healthy attitude towards nudity, and not be the kind of person whose head explodes when they catch a 1 second glimpse of a breast on a Superbowl halftime show.

Point Break

Incidentally, if any of you have children, I wonder how you would react to your six year old daughter being subjected to the presence of your ex-wife's naked live-in hunk on a regular basis.

I thought she was pretty tasty looking in P.S. I Love You.

But it's hard to shake that image from Boys Don't Cry.

The best part about that movie was the reference to it in Hot Fuzz.

I'm not sure who's running that comedy team, but they are great. Shaun of the Dead is one of the funniest movies I've seen in years.

If Damon and Swank are one in the same, then how does Ben Affleck work into that?

I tell you I get no respect, when I was a teenager my mother caught me with a Playboy magazine, I told her I had it for the articles, and she believed me.

(rim shot)

I can't believe I'm agreeing with you.

But I do.

Ages 1, 2, 3, I don't see an issue. But age 6?

I've read stories in newspapers and on the net of kids that age being caught trying to have sex in the classroom's cloak room.

LOL.

I actually like some of the articles in Playboy, at least the ones back in the '90s. I came across a great article about John Milius that I liked so much I ripped it out of my brother's roommate's copy of the magazine (bad form, I know), which was lurking in their bathroom. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that the plethora of other nudie magazines out there don't include such, ah, intellectually stimulating articles.

Ed, I'm libertarian, too. I'm not arguing this from the position that the state should come swooping in and throw Swank in jail and that the kid should be put in therapy. It's a matter of common sense and propriety, which is voluntarily enforced by societal pressure. So I'm pressuring.

Interesting note about your mother. My mother in-law was a hippie communist (actual card-carrying variety complete with little red book) when my husband was growing up, and she walked around the house completely nude most of the time. Yeee-uck. He refuses to say what psychological affect this had on him, but I notice that he has little to do with her as a grown man. I will further note that this woman was a famous actress in her home country, and my husband has observed, from a childhood spent in the theater, that most actors are completely nuts and extremely self-absorbed. That may have something to do with Ms. Swank's cluelessness about her behavior.

Glad to find yet another libertarian hanging out around BH!

We had a very tiny, 4 room, 2 bedroom bungalow kind of house when I was young. One bedroom for boys, one bedroom for girls, and my parents slept on a roll-away-bed in the living room. Needless to say there wasn't a whole lot of privacy for anyone. Her dressing room was the kitchen.

When I was older and we moved to a bigger house, that all stopped. But man, I tell ya', I've never looked at a bra the same way since those days.

It's conventional wisdom, but not common sense. And you touched upon a critical point: one's upbringing. Mr. Kalder says that from his experience, 6 year olds are hot for naked chicks. Now, think about it, why would that be? Could a hypersexual society be at all at fault here, for bringing attention to the human body, and especially the female body, to young children in a sexual way?

There's a lot to be said, but I just wanted to combat the idea that the human body is inherently harmful to anyone, even children. Possibly especially children, since they haven't yet been conditioned by society to see the human body as a sex object; though nowadays, that doesn't last long. The human body is the human body, it just is. It is the actions of people that can cause harm.

I didn't avoid the argument you presented, I refuted it. First, you incorrectly summarized my argument to be that the mere presence of a naked body was harmful to a kid, which is absurd. I neither said nor implied that, which is why I countered with the importance of context.

Second, your analogies are flawed. The cultural acceptance of denying the intrinsic humanity of a particular race is a vastly different thing than the accepted norms of dress, especially as those norms apply to everyone. The morality inherent in one's manner of dress (or lack thereof) is almost entirely contextual, whereas the inherent worth of a human is not.

In terms of behavior, you seem to be arguing that the deliberate choice to be nude in front of a kid is not a behavior. I guess that means I can doff my blouse in public with impunity, as long as I'm just going about my business. In that spirit, what do you think about doing away with societal norms altogether? In all seriousness, would you be in favor of zero restrictions on public nudity? If not/if so, why?

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My Lord! That picture.

The horse is strong with this one.

Still peddling the old myth, I see. That one was debunked oh, about seven years ago. http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/the_blue_bur...

I can see everyone's view point. As I stated in one of my posts, one's perception is their reality. My perception comes from someone, when I was a small child, being highly inappropiate with me. Luckily, it didn't get to a really bad point, but it has affected me over the years. Thank goodness my mom was very assertive in asking me if these things had happened to me and was able to stop it before it got bad.

What the kid is thinking is "Why is my Dad's boyfriend walking around naked, and where's his pee-pee?"

I'm sorry to here that you had a bad experience as a child and well done for being honest with your mum.

Although I have commented in favour of Ms Swank (in the replies to the above post) I will agree that inappropriate behaviour by an adult can and does harm children.

Please ask yourself this question: Would it have been any easier to tell your mum about this man's inappropriate behaviour, if you and your mum had the kind of relaxed attitude to nudity that Hilary and her step-son have?

Brian Taylor

Isn't she a tranny?