I Try To Make a Good Christian Film
by Dallas JenkinsMy first two posts at this site addressed the topic of so-called “Christian” films in Hollywood. In my first post, I opined that the increased interest in Christian films by Hollywood execs hasn’t necessarily been a good thing because films with a faith theme are being sent to the small, low-budget faith divisions of the studios and marketed nearly exclusively to Christians. In my second post, I gave what I consider the reasons that most Christian films are so bad. Even though I’m an evangelical Christian, I had to admit that the films made by my brethren, intended for audiences like me, were typically very poorly done.
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So…I was faced with a few realities. Hollywood wanted more Christian films. As a Christian, I wanted more Christian films that were actually watchable. I’d publicly and condescendingly bemoaned the fact that Christian films usually weren’t good. I’m a Christian. I’m a filmmaker.
So I decided to make a Christian film. I’d made a few films already, and all of them had a faith-based perspective, but they hadn’t been all-out, crowd-pleasing, explicitly Christian films geared towards the church crowd. It wasn’t really what I came to Hollywood to do. But I figured that part of being a successful filmmaker was being a smart businessman, and not only that, I genuinely wanted to make a Christian film that was GOOD. Obviously, there’s somewhat of an artistic ceiling when you’re working within the constraints of a particular genre, not to mention working with a very low budget, but that doesn’t mean one can’t push the limits of those constraints and succeed artistically.
So I took a shot. I partnered with a company (Pure Flix) that specializes in films for the church market in a particularly cost-effective way, came aboard a project they were developing that fit my sensibility, and went to work. Let me take you through the issues faced when doing a Christian film intended to make money, serve a higher spiritual purpose, and succeed artistically.
First, the requirements. To qualify as a film that will appeal to the CORE Christian church crowd (those who don’t see too many movies because of the crassness of Hollywood), there are a few rules that you really shouldn’t ever break. One, it must be clean. NO rough language, and that includes the lesser ones like the d-word, h-word, and crass locker room phrases (I’m holding to these rules even in this article, in case it gets reprinted in Christian circles or if my Mom reads it). Women shouldn’t be dressed provocatively, and there can be zero lustful moments–even kissing should be tame (tongues were made for tasting communion bread and juice) and preferably limited to married Christian couples. Two, bad behavior must be presented as if it is indeed bad behavior, with consequences. Three, there should be at least one scene where the message of “the Gospel” is presented in some way, preferably by showing a character come to salvation or faith.
This is not to say that these audiences don’t enjoy films that don’t hold to these rules, but if it’s marketed as a “Christian” film, to be sold in Christian bookstores or played in church, it better live up to these standards.
Second, the limits. It’s extraordinarily difficult in today’s Hollywood to make money on a film unless it’s a big budget studio film. Movies like Paranormal Activity are miraculous and even more rare than they used to be. Independent films have largely been squeezed out of the marketplace, so to reduce risk, one needs to aim for as low a budget as possible. We had a very, very low budget by Hollywood standards and only 15 days to shoot the film, which is borderline psycho. The average Hollywood film has three times that.
With these boundaries, what am I hoping to achieve, and what can I bring to the table that might allow me to make a film that is actually good? And even though I understand that the target audience is the Christian market, I’m convinced that everyone likes a good movie, Christian or not. A good movie isn’t preachy or false, and unfortunately, most Christian films are both. I hope to be neither, and if I can achieve that, maybe the film can be good on its own merits with the “Christian” factor being a bonus, and maybe even have mainstream appeal.
To do this, we had to get a good script that presents the Christian experience with the wit and groundedness that most Christian films lack. Check. Veteran screenwriters Cary Solomon and Chuck Konzelman delivered a charming, compelling script that I was genuinely excited about, and the Christian stuff was interesting and organic to the story. This helped in getting good actors, which is important step #2–get solid actors who can portray this delicate material with audience-friendly charm, but also with realism, knowing you can’t afford Tom Cruise and Angelina Jolie but hoping you can find recognizable names who are looking for good material. Check. Kevin Sorbo, Kristy Swanson, John Ratzenberger, and up-and-coming Disney star Debby Ryan all loved the script. They weren’t cheap, but for an independent film, actors with their experience and charm were worth it, and they’ll also help tremendously when we’re out there selling the film.
Did I succeed? Don’t know yet, we’re still in post-production. But I documented my attempt and tried to make it as educational as possible. Every day on set, and once every couple weeks during post-production, I’ve filmed a “diary” along with some behind the scenes footage. I’ll continue to film these diaries all the way through the release of the film. If the film succeeds, this can perhaps be a ”how-to” guide on how to do it again; if it fails, then it’ll at least be an exhibit of what to avoid (like writing an article about bad Christian films before making one). I tried to gear the videos to appeal to all levels of film interest or experience, so if some moments feel too basic to you, I apologize, but for the most part, it’s just an honest look at the film-making process. I discuss the different jobs on a set; explain how things come together for the shoot and editing, acknowledge the bad days, and as we get into the marketing, I’ll show how a film is publicized and go behind the scenes of our attempts to sell the film to as many people as possible.
All the videos, pictures, and text updates are at What If… The Production Blog, starting in order from the bottom up. Warts and all.






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Yeah, it's a shame, but most of the Christian movies I have seen have been really bad. Like, MST3K worthy bad, with some notable exceptions(fireproof, 10 commandments). I look forward to giving your movie a go. God bless!
There are decent Christians who sometimes swear like a sailor and even have sex occasionally. I'm not sure that's necessary to put in a movie but what is necessary is some semblance of reality. The problem with most of the movies like the ones you describe is that, reality wise, they don't hold up. I wouldn't worry about pleasing an unpleasable crowd. Just go and make good movies. Don't confuse good and evil. I'll decide if they're Christian enough without the seal of approval of those who oppose realistic depictions of actual life as un-Christian.
it's the values, folks…
Not the doctrine. No one want to be proselytized, but MANY want to see their values reflected in this sea of nihilism and moral relativity that is Hollywood. 'The Blind Side' is huge because it fosters Christian values that everyone can relate to- except the critics, maybe.
Make a good film. Believe in it.
Let the audience decide…
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Ditto the above comment, but here's hoping this is a memorable one!
There have also been some pretty good Christian films, made by Christians, but unfortunately, they generally have to struggle to get funding.
Just a recommendation: an actor that I've seen in quite a few Christian films who I feel is worth checking out is an actor by the name of David A.R. White.
Good luck. I'm glad that, unlike some people who deprecate Christian films, you actually put your money where your mouth is.
There is only one good reason to make a movie: to entertain people.
But people keep trying to make movies for other reasons: to spread conservative values, to show our soldiers in Vietnam as heroes, to spread the word of the Lord. These movies are almost inevitably commercial and critical failures. Some may "support" these movies by offering positive reviews because "this is one of our own," but that tactic fails in the long run when other people watch the movie and realize it's not entertaining.
Trying to make a "conservative" (or "Christian") movie is a creative dead end. The left understands this. They make lots of GREAT movies because they know that story, acting, production values, and entertainment must come first, last, and only. The result has been lefty classics like Apocalypse, Soylent, Norma Rae, China Syndrome, Full Metal Jacket, etc.
Conservative filmmakers will not make progress until they accept this reality. Forget about movies "for the Lord" or "for the American heroes" and just learn how to write and produce great stories!
Christian movies? Why? The day Christianity mingled with the world it became null and void! You know, that story of Sampson and Delilah isn't in the Bible to titilate people. Sampson represented the Church and Delilia reprsented the world. What happed there is what happened here. Delilah lulled Sampson, seduced Sampson and he let his guard down and told her where his strength was. What did she do? She told the enemy and they cut off his hair. He ended up blind and grinding at a stone. Exactly the place Christians are in now. Many years ago Christianity became a "club" a 500 club a 700 club.. A Club? Now you want to use the bitter waters of Hollywood to make something sweet out of it? The Bible says you can't get sweet water from a bitter well. Wake Up
Thanks for such a thoughtful post Dallas – looking forward to more of the diary installments as well as the finished product. Keep up the good work!
i disagree. lots of great films 'for the lord' and 'for the American heroes' the ones you mention are films 'for the socialist' or 'anti-war' they had agendas too. and many of those are 'classics' amongst your circle. not classics to me. even apocalypse now, a good film, with great scenes, is not a 'classsic' in my book.
as a Christian who cares deeply about the Gospel being spread and as an actor, I completely agree and am thankful for filmmakers out there trying to do this genre right.
interesting… my feelings on public & home/church schools. we let them take it over.
and yah, hollywood will end up making us make multi-cultural liberal christian-lite films.
Dallas, I have to disagree with you on one point of your aritcle:
There are a few rules that you really shouldn’t ever break.
a) One, it must be clean. NO rough language, and that includes the lesser ones like the d-word, h-word, and crass locker room phrases (I’m holding to these rules even in this article, in case it gets reprinted in Christian circles or if my Mom reads it).
In otherwords, everyone has to be 100% perfect in there language 100% of the time? You mean Christians never use the "damn" or "Hell" words, ever?
b) Women shouldn’t be dressed provocatively, and
Okay, just where do you end the line and say someone is dressed provocatively? There's a big gap between what person and person b considere provocative.
c) there can be zero lustful moments–even kissing should be tame (tongues were made for tasting communion bread and juice) and preferably limited to married Christian couples.
So Christians don't engage in sex ever?
There's a difference between gratuitous scenes/language and scenes/language that fit the negative of all three of your categories that deliver a story..
The constraints you mention are pretty difficult, but I understand them for the market you're talking about. This is specifically the Christian market, so … there ya go.
But it's a little like Christian contemporary music. I actually get a lot more lesson from some country song about a guy realizing his father's worth as the old man dies then I get from the constant refrain of "you lift me up!" set to electric guitar. Christianity is a way of life, and life is more than "you lift me up" as is one's relationship to God. So I do see how this will always be a niche market and very hard for any movie made for it to break out to the general populace.
What I would like to see is movies that may not even mention religion showing these values in action. We don't get that very much. The Blind Side is doing very well, and it's a good example (Bush bash notwithstanding) of a movie that can appeal across religious and cultural lines. It's made a lot of money. Will Hollywood take note? And if they don't, will any Conservatives of means create an entity that will support such projects? Or will we continue to complain that the Hollywood oligarchy won't give us a break? We shall see.
What evangelical circles are you running in? Most people I know in this category, particularly those under 60, watch whatever garbage Hollywood churns out. It's a rare Christian these days who comes anywhere near adhering to the content standards you set up here.
As such, I don't see why Christian movies can't include some violence, cursing and even some sexual material, as long as it is appropriate to the story. A war movie with Christian themes can be violent (see "To End All Wars"). Sure, there are some Christians out there who won't watch anything rated above PG, but from my personal experience most care too little about content.
Do we call a tree evil if someone uses it to make an idol? Cinema, like a tree, is neither good nor evil. It is each particular film that is created either for good or evil. One could easily ask you why you are on the internet when it is used to promote such evils as socialism & child pornography. It is not the internet that is evil, it is how it is used. If it is used to uplift Christ & glorify God, then it is good. If it is used for debased purposes, it is evil. It is not the medium it is the messenger, unfortunately Christians have confused the two.
Great post, Mark. Notice "Christian" movies that did well, and most have believable, earthly folk who try to do their best. As a Christian, I hate films that target me, because they usually seem sterile and 2-dimensional. Look at "The Waltons". There it was done right, entertaining and not sacharine.
One book that came out of the initial assault into Iraq that would make an excellent movie was "A Table in the Presence" written by Lt. Carey H. Cash, a Chaplin with the 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment as they pushed into Bagdad as one of the lead elements. I have been disappointed that no one has picked it up.
Interesting that in the midst of this debate, there IS a new "Christian" movie coming out that includes clear violations of these "standards."
http://www.tosavealifemovie.com
Your argument with his points is the type of reasoning that's led hollywood (and our educational system) to where it is now. People commit all sorts of horrible acts in real life, but it doesn't mean we need to see it on the movie screen as well. Same goes for things like swearing and sex. Christians are interested in movies their whole families can watch together and enjoy. Just because people have sex, whether it be in or out of marriage, doesn't mean it's okay for me to watch it with my younger relatives. I as well don't always feel like watching movies with those elements, either.
And stories don't always need those elements…last I checked, there's quite a few movies pre-1960s that prove my point.
As a veteran, I always get ticked-off at the "innocent villagers getting masacred by US soldiers" scenes in Apocalypse, Full Metal, and most other Vietnam films. But that misses the point. Conservatives must learn how to create great stories FIRST (or find, hire, or fund people who have that talent). The trouble is, many conservatives produce with a poorly conceived script, bad actors, an underfunded budget, and the result is an unwatchable movie. That does no one any good. There is no benefit to making an "American hero" film or a "Christian values" film if it's a laughingstock in the watchability department. That hurts our cause rather than helps it – no one wants to fund a bad movie, REGARDLESS of the "values" expressed in that movie.
I'll check out the blog…good luck with the movie…I'm a filmmaker myself http://www.battlethemovie.blogspot.com and http://www.battle-movie.com respectively.
I used to correspond with you at one of your other movie sites back in the day a bit.
-M
If you want something done right – do it yourself.
http://christ365.com
Christian movies suck because they are cheesy and full of bad acting. Esther: One night with the King has got to be the worst movie of all time.
Christians are like everyone else, flawed and sinful, just look at the patriarchs.
I was referring to rules that will allow a film to appeal to the church market. I agree that the "rules" aren't ideal for making the best film possible, but those are the realities of the business. My article is about my trying to work within the system.
While gratuitous sex and violence should not be part of a Christian film, I do not think you can create a good film by scrubbing away reality. The Church and Christians live in a fallen world and it is their desire to overcome the world no matter how imperfectly they try. A real Christian movie, at least to me, must deal with how Christians conduct themselves while the world around them is going to hell. It must also deal with the Great Commission, how Christians are called to keep others from going to hell. Additionally, Christians are not perfect, in fact ,in order to be a Christian, one must come to that very conclusion about themselves. Christians get angry, they get into fights, they have passions and they make many many mistakes all the while trying to be more like Jesus Christ. Stop scrubbing the Christian life of its reality, the reality of the fallen World.
One of the best Christian films I ever saw was "Angels with Dirty Faces" with Pat O'Brien and Jimmy Cagney. Under the rules you outlined, I wonder if it could be seen as acceptable if made today.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029870/plotsummary
Jesus didn't back away from the realities of life – why should Christians?
In my opinion, contemporary Christian music is just part of a machine, like any other aspect of the music business. Personally I find it offensive that with the exception of lyrics (sometimes), you usually can't tell the difference between Christian music and secular music. Somehow we're still supposed to buy it because we're so 1-dimensional that we can't see through what they're trying to sell us. It's nicknamed "rockin' with Jesus" music for a reason.
It's refreshing for me to go into a church on a sunday and hear traditional music from hymnals…it seems like there's a larger amount of reverence and dignity in that music and it doesn't focus on "getting people moving/awake" or "getting fired up". That's what they have aerobics classes and rock concerts for.
One of my favorite movies is The Ultimate Gift. It is a good clean movie with a good message. It even talked about faith and dying. Don't know if it was put out by a Christian company but it had Christian values without being preachy. I am looking forward to seeing your movie.
Otter, that's why i put the last line.. there's a major difference of having gratuitous "sex/language/scenes" just to have it and to have a scene/comment where it makes sense.
One of the movies that qualifies (at least in terms of the language) IMO, is Secondhand Lions. Although it's been a while since I've seen it, so I may have forgotten the exact messages, but I'd say it would not have qualified to be me made by a Christian outfit because of all the "Hell"s and "Damn"s from Duvall's and Caine's characters?
I'm not saying don't have guidelines, but they should be guidelines, not rules written in stone in this case.
Even if it "makes sense" for a character to cuss, dress provocatively or have sex, that doesn't mean we want to watch that with our children. It also effects the rating of a movie and if you get an R rating you're going to lose a big chunk of your Christian audience.
You know, there are people who live their lives without cussing and without dressing trashy and without having sex outside of marriage. I think it's wrong to assume all these people are one dimensional and boring.
Good article. If your audience wants those things you listed and you want to be successful within that sphere, then you have to do what you have to do. But then there are the rest of us that would prefer something that was good on values, but also entertaining. There needs to be conflict. Not everyone walks around with bland happy expressions on their faces singing of sunshines and lollipops.
One movie that I remember that was a good family movie that I could watch even with my kids who are only 7 and 5 1/2 was National Treasure. If "damn" or "hell" was in it. I don't remember. But I do remember that there were no words worse than that, the violence was more like "action" rather than gratuitous violence and it taught an important conservative message about our Founding and our Founding Fathers – that they were actually good people, and not evil white slave-owners. I distinctly remember that as I walked out of that movie and I was pleased by the fact that I didn't miss any of that stuff – the cursing, the sex, the nudity, etc.
Most of all, I was entertained. If Hollywood would do more of those, that would make me happy.
But again, to each his own.
Christians are not called to keep others from going to Hell. They are called to draw others nearer to the Father through their words and actions. The reality of a Christian's life should be that of a reflection of Christ not that of the fallen world.
Personally, I don't go to the movies to see reality. I go there for a good story and characters with whom I can identify. I get enough reality just living here.
The question is not trying to make "clean" Christian movies that can be shown in church but making good movies. Not everything needs to be made so that a seven year old can see it. they are not ready for many mature themes. Look at some of the writers of the past: Shakespeare, Chaucer, JRR Tolkien, etc. All of these and more (even Dickens to a degree) come from a Christian world view. They were making works of art, not preaching to anyone. What needs to be made is good art. According to the "standards" that the article mentions, Shakespeare could not be shown or JRR Tolkien for that matter. They had lots of violence, bad language and especially in Shakespeare and Chaucer, they had many references to sexual behavior. Yet these are among the greatest in the Western Canon.
I think what constitutes as "christian" music, movies, art, etc is absolutely terrible. It isn't good art. How can we introduce an increasingly secular world to the beauty of the Holy Faith if we can't even inspire people with beauty and truth? For centuries, the Church had commissioned great works of art (think of the Italian masters), etc to inspire and to convey truth. The Church decided to abandon their role as promoters of art, music, and literature years ago. As a result, secularism took its place.
I want to see good movies and read good literature that isn't going to offend me every second. I'm tired of catering to the lowest common denominator. In the case of most "christian" movies, they ought to be given the MST3K treatment. Geesh, some of them look like they can be contenders to topple Manos: hands of Fate, the Pod People, and Planet 9 from Outer space as the worst movies ever made.
Movies aren't life. They're entertainment. They should be a momentary diversion of the realities of this place. When I go to a movie or read a book, I want to be able to immerse myself in that world if only briefly. For me, the occurence of obscenities, vulgarities and profanities (whether spoken or seen) jars me from that world and brings me squarely back into this one.
I have little to add (but I'll ramble!) that hasn't been discussed, these are
all points I've turned over in my mind as I consider what sort of stories I
might work on if I ever returned to writing. I do think that we (Christians)
are really missing some tremendous opportunities if we rule out depictions of
"real" worldly people.
For instance, if a goal is to demonstrate someone who has repented after 10
years of awful behavior and accepts Jesus as his/her Savior, how do you
demonstrate the awful behavior? "You mean kids get the heck off my dadgum
grass!" What if a character is to show forgiveness for some monster's intense
cruelty? Maybe you don't have to show a rape seen or anything, but to make the
story have power you'd better make the rapist believable and awful in some
fashion, or the forgiveness means nothing to the audience, which would be a
disservice to the audience as well as to the victim character.
(ramble contined…)
If you are strictly marketing for the Christian bookstores, that is one thing,
but if you're trying to sell characters as realistic sometimes you have to take
the good, the bad, and the ugly. There's absolutely no need though to do what
so much of Hollywood's products do, which angers me relentlessly and has all but
ended my watching of Hollywood movies & shows. There's just no need for the
violence just for violence or nudity just for nudity, etc. There are way too
many stories waiting to be told that just don't need that kind of filler.
Personally, I'm not sure that I want to live walled off from the rest of the
world by pretending that people don't cuss or do the other things that so many
people do. We weren't sent, by the way, to live in isolation in ivory towers on
marshmallow dreams, were we.
Let me wrap up the ramble by adding, I thought the "Nicolae Carpathia" character
in the Left Behind movies was awful, scary, and frightening, so much can be done
with good writing, acting, and directing!
Whoops, you wrote in a few lines about what I was getting at in my too-long ramble below! And better said, as well. So I agree, God loved us while we were still unsaved, and it's plain in the Bible we weren't sent to be isolated. I do think a good, "pristine" movie is very possible, but I don't think it should be the ultimate goal of Christian film-making.
I was going to take you to task based on your first post, Glenn, but I can't argue with your rebuttal. However, if you think that Oliver Stone, George Clooney, Gus Van Sant , Matt Damon, and the rest don't make movies with an intentional point, you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind. The theme of a movie is a well-crafted idea interwoven through every choice in a film script. Liberals, nihilists, new agers, and atheists, all make movies from their worldview with the intention of challenging or shaping thought and opinion. If they do it well, and are better funded than conservative and/or Christian filmmakers that is off point of whether a movie should have a point, and a point of view
Nonetheless, you are right: no movie at all is better than a laughingstock.
But the draw for many is the power of God's love evidenced by change in the life of the believer. Who hasn't been moved, perhaps even saved, by the draw of the "before" and "after." That is a real life character arc by the power of God's Spirit.
And showing the before often, even in interpersonal dialog, involves mentioned the darkness that one was saved out of. And so, for a film to have power, it too must show the shadows into which the light can flood, bringing change… and drawing an audience closer to the Father.
I'm not big on Christian fiction, either books or movies, and only partly because they tend to be poorly done. Mostly my objection, which I "inherited" from my father, is either that something with "biblical" characters in it isn't "biblical" at all… it's fiction, and the two things should never be confused… or else it's because the doctrine is just plain wrong, and wrong doctrine *matters.*
Personally, in my own writing, I chose to avoid it because the responsibility of possibly misleading someone is too great. But I do sometimes write Christian themes or characters that hold faith important in their lives.
All of that said, when my kids were little we got a "christian video of the month" thing and the videos were so bad that I canceled it. The Veggie Tales, particularly the early ones, are brilliant.
Good points. I do NOT agree with the oft-quoted line, "If you have a message to send, use Western Union!" It's simply not true that if a movie has a message, it's a bad movie. However, if "getting your message across" is the REASON for making the movie, you're in trouble.
If you want to make a terrific war movie, go ahead and do so . . . start with an awesome script and experienced actors. If your war film happens to show US forces in a positive light, so much the better (i.e. We Were Soldiers, and many classics from the 40's and 50'). But if your reason to make a movie is to "show our heroes," you probably have a problem.
My ultimate "Christian" film experience would be to see Frank Peretti's two books This Present Darkness and Piercing The Darkness on the big screen. These are real potential Hollywood blockbusters in terms of scale and quality of production. But would the studios ever come to support films like these? I'd say it's a long shot.
The problem lies in what "audience" you want to reach. The "church audience", the "church attending" audience or, the "church avoiding" audience. Each one comes with it's own set of parameters. Typically if you're shooting for the "church audience" that means the rules stated above, with less budget, less time, and less creative talent (in the whole). It's fine, but you have to accept the limits.
I would just like to see some real stories told with real character arcs, where the protagonists face real choices in life and find they have to live with the real consequnces of those decisions. Sometimes they find salvation, sometimes they just find a find to be able to get through another day. The best stories are the one where the viewer can place themselves in the character's position and be moved to action of their own volition.
I would just like to see a movie that 1) didn't portray the US was the "evil empire", 2) didn't portray Christian characters as fanatic psycho killers, 3) didn't portray Conservatives as ignorant rubes, or evil-mongers. That's all, really, and I'd be pretty happy. It's been a long, LONG time since I've seen a theatrical release that managed to do those three things. HBO's "Taking Chance", I think, was an excellent made-for-cable film which didn't avoid reality, but treated the subject and its characters with respect. And as a Christian, I think that's really all I'm asking for.
The reason they always fail is they always try to be family films. I agree there shouldn't be excessive lust in the film cause that inspires us to lust ourselves, but it shouldn't be locked down to any rules because then in becomes watered down and false. Many moments in the bible were moments you wouldn't want to watch as a family. But it was in there to teach a lesson. With Christian films the most you get are ' Aw shucks I don't think my marriage is gonna make it' ' here read the bible' ' My marriage is better'. I think a effective movie would be something that shows the dark harsh lessons of the world in a real light (while shying away from nudity) and in the end God's grace is shown. Like Drugs. These kind of movies always have such a weak approch to that subject. Its always a teen, getting in with some bad kids, smoking weed, then the parents find it and he says ' i was just holding it for a friend' and they get into trouble and he realizes who is real friends are and honor your father and mother or whatever. How about a real story like showing the real life drug addicts live. That would scare my kid straight. I found with the exception of the graphic sex scene. Requiem for a dream was really effective for me, scared the crap out of me from ever wanting to touch any drug. Really harsh but effective movie. Everyones life in that picture gets ruined.
Yup. . .and the mending to the relationship between father and son, and later husband and wife in the sequel. It wasn't Christian on purpose, that I went with some people from church to see both films and no one felt ashamed for having seen it. We ended up recommending it to the parents and teenagers to go see.
National Treasure, without being Christian, was actually a pretty good film that I knew had a lot of support from that demographic.
*MissQuinn*
You should have seen The Great Raid. It's an underrated film that I enjoyed a lot.
It's based on a true story as well.
*MissQuinn*
I don't understand why we have to pretend like sin doesn't exist in order for the film to be a "Christian" film. What would "Chariots of Fire" have been like if Harold Abraham's excesses were scrubbed from the film?
Second, are sins acted out on film actual sin? I understand how participating in a graphic sexual scene is considered wrong, but how is memorizing and reciting curse words wrong? What would the parables in the Bible be like if sinners could not be depicted in written form?
David White is one of the principles of PureFlix. He's quite good, having debuted on Burt Reynold's "Evening Shade," and starred in/produced several feature films before co-founding PureFlix. You should catch his dual performance in "Mercy Streets" (on video).
But what's strange to me is the preposterous, artificial constraints the author says are placed on a "Christian film" when Dr. Ted Baehr's research indicates that evangelical ticket-buying patterns are virtually indistinguishable from the average. Why the double standard? There is indeed a line many won't cross — typically R-ratings — but it seems to me that dcase above is right about the success of "The Blind Side."
(ramble contined…)
If you are strictly marketing for the Christian bookstores, that is one thing,
but if you're trying to sell characters as realistic sometimes you have to take
the good, the bad, and the ugly. There's absolutely no need though to do what
so much of Hollywood's products do, which angers me relentlessly and has all but
ended my watching of Hollywood movies & shows. There's just no need for the
violence just for violence or nudity just for nudity, etc. There are way too
many stories waiting to be told that just don't need that kind of filler.
Personally, I'm not sure that I want to live walled off from the rest of the
world by pretending that people don't cuss or do the other things that so many
people do. We weren't sent, by the way, to live in isolation in ivory towers on
marshmallow dreams, were we.
Let me wrap up the ramble by adding, I thought the "Nicolae Carpathia" character
in the Left Behind movies was awful, scary, and frightening, so much can be done
with good writing, acting, and directing!
Some have stated here by implication that a "clean" movie would be more of a draw to the lost than one with "reality." Someone said "I get enough of reality every day." Well, the draw for many is the power of God's love evidenced by change in the life of someone who has been saved/redeemed/come to faith. Who hasn't been moved, perhaps even saved, by the draw of the "before" and "after"? That is a real life character arc by the power of God's Spirit.
And showing the before often, even in interpersonal dialog with a real person you care about, involves mentioning the darkness that one was saved out of. And so, for a film to have power, it too must show the shadows into which the light can flood, bringing change… and drawing an audience closer to the truth, and to the very real alternative to the hell they're experiencing everyday.
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I think your charming Christmas movie Midnight Clear with Steven Baldwin is a good portrayal of people with real world problems and weaknesses dealing with life at a less than happy holiday time. It has some dark moments of people hitting bottom and moving scenes of generosity and the true Christmas spirit.
Plus, it even has a key cameo by BH's Victoria Jackson!
Holy crap 15 day shoot! What are you thinking man! I was on a student film that took longer to film than that! (It was horrible and I was glad I was only a local PA.) My hat's off to you if you can pull it off!
as an actress and a Christian, I too have "cringed" at many christian films. so poorly done. But we must be able to reach beyond the choir. If we only focus on reaching other Christians, we are not using our abilities to the fullest. I think Tyler Perry has a fantastic way of bringing reality and the Message into his work and why he is so popular. And if we work on being too "pure" then we are delivering no more than a fantasy , unattainable. We have to be real.
I think that is why 10 Commandments, Ben Hurr and the old Hollywood movies of the Bible were and are still so popular. I just watched both recently with my young girls who loved them. There was lust and weakness and all the things that made us human. And there was redemption. So we must not be too pristine. look forward to seeing your movie:)
That's my point I was trying to make, too.
yah but most 40s & 50s war films were propaganda and great! as a film maker, i have come to the conclusion that story & even production values are luxuries. EXECUTION is the key. a bad story or even a 'hero film' if executed well can be good. a great story, poorly executed… is still bad. many films with bland storylines are executed so well, they are awesome. but also, isnt it so, that it takes many trials and errors to make a masterpiece.
i say… KEEP TRYING. i think its better to make crap or whatever than to not try at all. in my hollywood dinners & conversations… everyone has an agenda. EXECUTION though is what i see as the key. well executed, well done, brisk, even handed… tight… entertaining.
"Taken" would be a good example. Well executed. The lines in that film were all planned out. Each line had a succint meaning, agenda, point. Same with the new Batman flick, each action was so obvious in its agenda driven expose.
Hey Dallas, I am an assistant editor. You hiring?
What about "Flywheel", "Facing the Giants", and "Fireproof"? Those were pretty good.
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What makes a movie, "Christian"? It is simply a story that tells the truth.
I like the RED One action! Look forward to seeing this film.
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Drop the beef, Dallas
I am the son of a Blacksmith living in East Prussia – now Russia- my father ha a Blacksmith Shop he was also a preacher so we where use to hearing the Gospel , I am one of 9 children we became Refugees Feb 1945 fleeing from th Russians. Dad was a POW in USSR till 1949 we immigrated in 1951 I was draffed in 1953 sent back to Germany as an American Soldier. Live now in WV Have 4 children 7 grandchildren.
I:m being told. The Book i wrote would make a good film .Hop you are interested
Herb Flemming
I saw "What If" yesterday and enjoyed it. I was not looking for a "Christian" movie, just one I could watch in my home with gratuitous profanity. As a former U.S. Army Drill Sergeant, I've uttered more profanity than most. But that doesn't mean I want to have it spoken in my home, around my family. By the way, I was a "church goer" then; now, as a Christian, I find my former behavior offensive. I just try to find movies with these characteristics:
–Redeeming social value – bad guys lose in the end and good triumphs over evil.
–Interesting story line – good stories done well
–Minimum of profanity – It seems that hollywood takes great great delight in taking God's name in vain and using the "f: word for effect. It works – the effect is that I change the channel.
I enjoyed the movie. And that is really all that matters to me.
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