Lt. Starbuck … Lost In Castration.
by Dirk BenedictOnce upon a time, in what used to be a far away land called Hollywood (but is now a state of mind and everywhere), a young actor was handed a script and asked to bring to life a character called Starbuck. I am that actor. The script was called “Battlestar Galactica.”
Fortunately, I was young, my imagination fertile and adrenal glands strong, because bringing Starbuck to life was over the dead imaginations of a lot of Network Executives. Every character trait I struggled to give him was met with vigorous resistance. A charming womanizer? The “Suits” (Network Executives) hated it. A cigar (fumerello) smoker? The Suits hated it. A reluctant hero who found humor in the bleakest of situations? The Suits hated it. All this negative feedback convinced me I was on the right track.
Starbuck was meant to be a lovable rogue. It was best for the show, best for the character and the best that I could do. The Suits didn’t think so. “One more cigar and he’s fired,” they told Glen Larson, the creator of the show. “We want Starbuck to appeal to the female audience for crying out loud.” You see, the Suits knew women were turned off by men who smoked cigars, especially young men. How they “knew” this was never revealed. And they didn’t stop there. “If Dirk doesn’t quit playing every scene with a girl like he wants to get her in bed, he’s fired.” This was, well, it was blatant heterosexuality, treating women like “sex objects.” I thought it was flirting. Never mind, they wouldn’t have it. I wouldn’t have it any other way, or rather Starbuck wouldn’t. So we persevered, Starbuck and I. The show, as the saying goes, went on and the rest is history for, lo and behold, women from all over the world sent me boxes of cigars, phone numbers, dinner requests, and marriage proposals.
The Suits were not impressed. They would have their way, which is what Suits do best, and after one season of puffing and flirting and gambling, Starbuck, that loveable scoundrel, was indeed fired. Which is to say, “Battlestar Galactica” was cancelled. Starbuck, however, would not stay cancelled, but simply morphed into another flirting, cigar smoking, blatant heterosexual called Faceman. Another show, another set of Suits, and of course, if The “A-Team” movie rumors prove correct, another remake.
There was a time, I know I was there, when men were men, women were women and sometimes a cigar was just a good smoke. But 40 years of feminism have taken their toll. The war against masculinity has been won. Everything has turned into its opposite, so that what was once flirting and smoking is now sexual harassment and criminal. And everyone is more lonely and miserable as a result.
Witness the “re-imagined” “Battlestar Galactica,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused. Which is to say, it reflects in microcosm the complete change in the politics and morality of today’s world, as opposed to the world of yesterday. The world of Lorne Greene (Adama), Fred Astaire (Starbuck’s Poppa) and Dirk Benedict (Starbuck). I would guess Lorne is glad he’s in that Big Bonanza in the sky and well out of it. Starbuck, alas, has not been so lucky. He’s not been left to pass quietly into that trivial world of cancelled TV characters.
“Re-imagining”, they call it. “Un-imagining” is more accurate. To take what once was and twist it into what never was intended. So that a television show based on hope, spiritual faith and family is un-imagined and regurgitated as a show of despair, sexual violence and family dysfunction. To better reflect the times of ambiguous morality in which we live, one would assume. A show in which the aliens (Cylons) are justified in their desire to destroy human civilization, one would assume. Indeed, let us not say who the good guys are and who the bad are. That is being “judgmental,” taking sides, and that kind of (simplistic) thinking went out with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan and Kathryn Hepburn and John Wayne and, well, the original “Battlestar Galactica.”
In the bleak and miserable “re-imagined” world of “Battlestar Galactica,” things are never that simple. Maybe the Cylons are not evil and alien but in fact enlightened and evolved? Let us not judge them so harshly. Maybe it is they who deserve to live and Adama and his human ilk who deserve to die? And what a way to go! For the re-imagined terrorists (Cylons) are not mechanical robots void of soul, of sexuality, but rather humanoid six foot tall former lingerie models who f**k you to death. (Poor old Starbuck, you were imagined too early. Think of the fun you could have had ‘fighting’ with these thong-clad aliens!) In the spirit of such soft-core, sci-fi porn I think a more re-imaginative title would have been “F**cked by A Cylon.” (Apologies to “Touched by an Angel.”)
One thing is certain. In the new un-imagined, re-imagined world of “Battlestar Galactica” everything is female driven. The male characters, from Adama on down, are confused, weak and wracked with indecision, while the female characters are decisive, bold, angry as hell, puffing cigars (gasp!) and not about to take it any more.
One can quickly surmise what a problem the original Starbuck created for the re-imaginators. Starbuck was all charm and humor and flirting without an angry bone in his womanizing body. Yes, he was definitely “female driven,” but not in the politically correct ways of Re-imagined Television. What to do, wondered the Re-imaginators? Keep him as he was, with a twinkle in his eye, a stogie in his mouth and a girl in every galaxy? This could not be. He would stick out like, well, like a jock strap in a drawer of thongs. Starbuck refused to be re-imagined. It became the Great Dilemma. How to have your Starbuck and delete him too?
The best minds in the world of un-imagination doubled their intake of Double Soy Latte’s as they gathered in their smoke-free offices to curse the day that this chauvinistic Viper Pilot was allowed to be. But never under-estimate the power of the un-imaginative mind when it encounters an obstacle (character) it subconsciously loathes. ”Re-inspiration” struck. Starbuck would go the way of most men in today’s society. Starbuck would become “Stardoe.” What the Suits of yesteryear had been incapable of doing to Starbuck 25 years ago was accomplished quicker than you can say orchiectomy. Much quicker, as in, “Frak! Gonads Gone!”
And the word went out to all the Suits in all the smoke-free offices throughout the land of Un-imagination, “Starbuck is dead. Long live Stardoe!”
I’m not sure if a cigar in the mouth of Stardoe resonates in the same way it did in the mouth of Starbuck. Perhaps. Perhaps it “resonates” more. Perhaps that’s the point. I’m not sure. What I am sure of is this…
Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Hamlet does not scan as Hamletta. Nor does Hans Solo as Hans Sally. Faceman is not the same as Facewoman. Nor does a Stardoe a Starbuck make. Men hand out cigars. Women “hand out” babies. And thus the world for thousands of years has gone’ round.
I am also sure that Show Business has been morphing for many decades now and has finally become Biz Business. The creative artists have lost and the Suits have won. Suits. Administrators. Technocrats. Metro-sexual money-men (and women), who create ever more efficient formulas to guarantee profit margins. Because movies and television shows are not made to enlighten or even entertain, but simply to make money. They will tell you it is (still) about story and character, but all it is really about is efficiency. About the Formula. Because Harvard Business School Technocrats run Hollywood and what Technocrats know is what must be removed from all business is Risk. And I tell you, life, real life, is all about risk. I tell you that without risk you have no creativity, no art. I tell you that without risk you have Remakes. You have, “Charlie’s Angels,” “The Saint,” “Mission Impossible,” “The A Team” (coming soon), and “Battlestar Galactica.”
All risk-free brand names, franchises.
For you see, TV shows (and movies) are made and sold according to the same business formula as hamburger franchises. So that it matters not if it is the “best” hamburger, what matters is that you “think” it is the best. And you do “think” it is the best, because you have been told to; because all of your favorite celebrities are seen munching it on TV. The big money is not spent on making the hamburger or the television show, but on the marketing of the hamburger/show. (One 60 second commercial can cost more than it does to film a one-hour episode.) It matters not to Suits if it is Starbuck or Stardoe, if the Cylons are robots or lingerie models, if the show is full of optimism and morality or pessimism and amorality. What matters is that it is marketed well, so that all you people out there in TV land know that you must see this show. And after you see it, you are told that you should like it. That it is new and bold and sleek and sexy and best of all … it is Re-imagined!
So grab a Coke from the fridge (not the Classic Coke, but the re-imagined kind with fewer calories) and send out for a McDonald’s hamburger (the re-imagined one with fewer carbs), and tune in to Stardoe and Cylon #6 (or was it #69?) and Enjoy the Show.
And if you don’t enjoy the show, or the hamburger and coke, it’s not the fault of those re-imaginative technocrats that brought them to you. It is your fault. You and your individual instincts, tastes and judgment — your refusal to let go of the memory of the show that once was. You just don’t know what is good for you. But stay tuned. After another 13 episodes (and millions of dollars of marketing), you will see the light. You, your instincts, your judgment, are wrong. McDonald’s is the best hamburger on the planet, Coca-Cola the best drink, and Stardoe is the best Viper Pilot in the Galaxy.
And “Battlestar Galactica,” contrary to what your memory tells you, never existed before the Re-imagination of 2004.
I disagree. But perhaps, you had to be there.







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Dirk, buddy, no offense, but the orginial Battlestar sucked on toast. It was a shamelss attempt by the networks to cash in on the Star Wars craze. Frankly, the remake isn't much better, given that it mistakes sullen glares with profound truth.
However, deconstructing the current Battlestar as somehow betraying the masculine purity of the original or whatever you were blathering about makes me fear that you haven't saved your A-Team money.
Is it wrong to just say that Starbuck was one of my early crushes? Is that sexist or objectifying too much? Don't care..hot then, hot now…
Well said, Mr. Benedict. Well said. One of my favorite shows as a boy was Battlestar Galactica. It ignited the imagination and was uplifting. When I first learned of the "re-imagined" Battlestar Galactica, I was excited because I thought I was about to receive more of the same fare I enjoyed as a boy – something I could sit down and watch with my kids. Not so. The "re-imagined" version is dark and depressing and not even a shadow of the original that I knew and loved. I don't think our society is better for "re-imagined" versions of old favorite shows that dispense with morality and optimism. Thanks for an article that needed to be written, Mr. Benedict. Long live StarBUCK!
Well said, Mr. Benedict. The posts that are commenting on the quality of the original series as opposed to the reimagining are missing the overall point. Sure, even the robot Cylons have more mobility and personality than the Stormtroppoer-esque ones in the original series, but, is it worth the price that they now all get together for an evening of Cosmos, trying on Manolos and listening to Number Six's own personal Mr. Big, Gaius Baltar? [One of the only characters in the new version that is very unapologetic for his maleness, but even he is haunted by images of a supermodel who lives inside his head and guides his decisionmaking.]
Dirk:
Right on spot, man! I was a huge, HUGE fan of the original Battlestar. I tried watching this new one but it is unimpressive, boring and depressing. Society has changed,but for those of us who have ben around long enough to see, it is not for the better. People are more bitter and downcast than ever before. Hell, the great depression brought more merriment ot people’s lives than things were even before our current “economic downturn.” You go, Starbuck, tell it like it is!!
Dirk, I’m sure if you’d slept with Apollo, the execs would have kept the show on regardless of how much you smoked.
Dirk,
Might I suggest any cigar from the Acid (Drew Estate) line. Torch it, and keep writing.
Come on back.
MAC
I’ve only seen the first two seasons of the new BG, but I have to say I found it a high quality show. It’s a fascinating opportunity to explore interesting sociological and geo-political issues on a small scale. As a former Naval officer, I appreciate the attention to detail given to ship life and battle scenarios. Giving the Cylons more complex motivation doesn’t excuse their evil, but warns us that evil lies in wait even in legitimate grievances and benign intentions.
But I heard it gets worse after that.
I agree with you whole-heartedly, though, about the feminization of our culture. Actually, I wouldn’t even say that, because it’s taking the femininity out of females. Castration is a better word – your title has it right. The virtues of Manliness – taking responsibility and risk for your family, strength, leadership, fatherhood, toughness, the willingness to fight for what’s right and keep fighting after getting hit a bunch of times – that’s been nearly lost to an entire generation.
All is not lost in the world of remakes, though. Even in 2007, my boyhood hero Optimus Prime was still channeling John Wayne…
Wonderful piece, well written, and sharp. Many of us had thought that the Hollywood rot was endemic to all in the acting professional. It is interesting to see that a few brave souls still wear their own pants.
Sadly, this may explain the embargo against further offers for acting pieces to you.
And that, in a well-written nutshell, is why I haven’t downed my fanboy-issued cup of ‘Battlestar Galactica 2004′ Koolaid.
It wasn’t just the ‘girl power’ version of Starbuck, it’s that the whole series is nihilistic, depressing and full of moral equivalence.
I could go on (in fact I just deleted a couple of pages worth of rants against BSG 2.0) I’ll leave it there. I’m not supporting BSG’s sponsors. I’m ACTIVELY not watching, if one can do such a thing.
Dirk, I always felt, watching that show in the 1970s, that your character is what **made** the show. Starbuck was a fearless, lovable rogue.
And for all the talk Hollywood does about “creativity” it is the “suits” that have so much input.
Wow! I’m impressed. I would not have thought that Dirk Benedict would or could put that many coherent thoughts together. And on top of that, I tend to agree with him, even though I do enjoy the “re-imagined” Battlestar G much more than the original…
Wow! I’m no fan of the new Galactica, but someone took the bitter bus this morning! They re-imagined the show, and I think it’s lasted quit a bit longer than the 70s’ version with its fabulous feathered hair. Starbuck is not Hamlet, and they didn’t cut your actual n*ts off, Dirk. Time moves on. And by the way, isn’t this article rehashed from 4 years ago?
Thank you!
Bravo, Mr. Benedict.
I’m a HUGE fan of the original Battlestar, and detest the re-imagined show for all the reasons you describe. Bleak, angsty, completely devoid of humor — who needs it?
Incidentally, I was only eight years old when the original show aired, but I had a big crush on Starbuck and Apollo. Still do.
Bravo Sir. I watched the original Battlestar as a kid. I’ve watched the BSG:redux. I find the redux overblown, confused storytelling, in spite of the very talented cast. I will not be rewatching repeats of it with my kids. However, Classic Battlestar, Classic Dirk Benedict Starbuck, Classic Apollo, Athena, Sheba, and classic Lorne Greene Adama will always be welcome. My daughters will see those men and women love and fight to protect their families.
Yeah, when I saw the hype about the “new” Battlestar Galactica I groaned about Hollyweird’s lack of imagination. All they do are remakes now, it seems. And then I heard they were making Starbuck into a lesbian I figured it would be pure trash. I don’t really watch tv any more so saying I never watched one episode of the new one isn’t as strong a comment as I would like it to be, but I don’t think I would ever bother with this show given the chance.
Amen. I thought my wife and I were the only ones on earth who weren’t thrilled with the “new and improved” BSG. Glad to see we are not alone.
I’m still waiting for that new TV sitcom about spunky news editor Mark Richards, his neighbor Rhadja and the quirky landlord Phillip (also married to Lars natch) as they struggle to make it in San Francisco TV news.
Couldn’t agree more. I refused to watch the new BG from the moment I heard they’d turned Starbuck into a chick. I don’t care how great they say the new one is. There’s a principle at stake.
I could not have said it better myself. Long live StarBUCK! (I still remember)
Dirk,
THANK YOU! I’ve been on this soap box since this new BSG emerged and everyone went ga-ga over it. I had thought that the whole world had forgotten the Battlestar Galactica from my childhood. One of the few TV shows we sat down as a family and enjoyed. (Sorry, Mom)
Know this, there are those of us who DO remember…
Dude, go easy on the shift key.
Why is there no mention that this piece was originally published in May 2004? That’s a long time ago, and long enough time for him to watch and appreciate what the actors have brought to their roles.
Yeah!!!! I loved you as Starbuck; now I love you for your honest stand on Battlestar……who knew
The original BG was way ahead of its time! It was one of the first attempts at serious serialized science fiction on American network television. The original show had some wonderful charm and made Sunday nights in front of the TV a requirement, just like Ed Sullivan or Lois and Clark (for me, at least).
And in the disappointing Galactica 1980, who was asked back for the only halfway decent episode, the one that closed out the series?
The current series is decent, but I still have some crazy love for the original, I have to admit.
Dirk, don’t stop contributing! Let’s hear about more of your battles with the suits!
Dirk, I am and have always been a fan of your work. But why can’t I enjoy the new show on it’s own merits and still have the fondest of memories for yours? You certainly have some valid points regarding the feminization of the show. Yes, the humans have a female president, and a female Starbuck (or Doe, whatever) and the cylons even seem to be mostly scantily clad robo-babes. But it is what it is. Take solace in the fact that it really isn’t or ever tried to be your show. Your show kicks all kinds of ass, still. But this show is ending, too. It may be darker and more bleak, and in it’s own way more misogynist than yours, but it will never BE yours. I’m ok with that.
Nice commentary. I had heard rave reviews about this show, and was loaned season 1 to watch. Even through half the season, I was bored. None of the characters even remotely interested me. The plot was convoluted and wandering. No characters, no plot- what’s so good about this show? I politely declined the loan of season 2.
Good article Dirk! I still enjoy the new series, but I have too look past it’s lame and predictable qualities.
Ron Moore is a “technocrat”? Zah? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
You can count me another fan of the old show who can’t bring himself to watch the new one. In addition to the complete and utter loss of hope (of course it’s so much more “real” that way), I can’t get over the stupidity and inconsistency of the storytelling. They invented thinking robots a hundred years ago and conquered space travel a thousand, but their medicine is no more advanced than ours? They use bullets and “nukes”? We currently have a laser that will stop a man (or even a crowd) from 1/4 mile away without causing him any harm, but they don’t have anything tougher than a pistol?
If you were a fan of Stargate Atlantis, you got to see a pretty reasonable explanation of what the future might look like. With BG, they cherry picked a ton of stuff for dramatic value, then told us we should just accept it and be happy. That is my big problem with the series, although the morose quality of the writing and bizarre nature of the cylons (especially their fascination with religion and reincarnation).
I pity the Faceman, writing this here jibber-jabber for Matt Drudge’s greased-up pool boy. The chumps at this site are howlin’ mad losers.
And I’m a real conservative. I gave Nancy Reagan Mohawk rides back in the day.
>“Re-imagining”, they call it. “Un-imagining” is more accurate.
“Bitter, party of one, your table is ready….”
It’s fairly obvious Benedict hasn’t watched the show he attempts to trash. The show is what the best scifi, the best storytelling, happens to be, about all of us. Whatever point of view you have, be it the most esoteric Leftist loftiness to the deepest, reasonable Right-iness, that point of view is found within BSG — and then countered by another point of view. This is a show that forces you to think.
In a world of Fox News nothingness and MSNBC mushiness, that is such a rare thing indeed.
I’m sorry you seem to be so embittered. I think you go too far with it, but for what it’s worth, and I don’t think I’m alone in this — some of us like both series, for different reasons.
The new BSG is in most ways…completely different, but with a tip of the hat to its namesake. The new BSG delves far deeper into what it means to be human — questioning whether we’re good, bad, or both, questioning our very existence or right to it. And it certainly gives consideration to the future. After all, ‘what if’…?
The old BSG (imho at least) was a fun, warm, show in which to get lost — as a child — as that’s when it aired for me. I’ve always loved sci-fi, and the idea of forcibly having to migrate toward a home you hope is there was both adventurous and sad at the same time. But the old BSG didn’t ask the tough questions I wasn’t quite ready for when it aired. Of course, as a child at the time, I was completely unaware of the Mormon undertones in the series.
In fact, it’s a special thing, for people my age who have watched/enjoyed both shows. BSG “grew up,” if you will, just as we did. Dark, serious, gritty…the severe questioning of humanity and human nature…are all exactly what I’m in the mood for these days. And as an adult, it doesn’t hurt to question those things; if you’re lucky, that’s how wisdom can take root.
Though you may find my description of the old series an insult, I don’t. The BSG of old was perfect at the time. The BSG of new is perfect, right now. As far as tv shows go, they’ve both had or are having their special moment on American TV (and elsewhere), and I probably won’t ever quite forget either series.
The differences between the two series are no reason to be so…bitter.
Vive le difference, after all.
Dirk, you are the man. I know the song. Well written. Will you be in my new film?
Apparently, all of the “strong women” in these movies and TV shows have had their entire reproductive organs removed and no longer suffer from monthly female problems. At least that’s what these movies and shows want to present, or perhaps what their female audiences want to pretend.
Let’s see Stardoe ready for battle during heavy flow, bloating and cramps.
What a joke!
An A-Team remake? Shame on you Hollywood.
As the mother of 4 boys & 1 grandson I now understand the subliminal reason we didn’t ever make this BG remake a part of our TV viewing.
It is sad when I have to change the channel during soft porn commercials for Victoria Secret.
Well written blog that contains MANY truths. But to be honest Dirk, the re-imagined BSG is not devoid of value. It would have made a fine story of its own had they not stolen the branding of the original to sell it. Your point about profit over quality is true not just in Hollywood, it is Universal (see what I did there?
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I can certainly understand your obvious dislike for what was done to your character and the show in general. I was not happy at first, then I chose to look at the re-imagined show for what it was – a brand new program that reused a spaceship and a few dozen names. And it succeeds as entertainment, in fact it is far better than most of the tripe coming out of Hollywood. (Reality show anyone?)
Your point about the over-feminization of everything is not lost on me though, and I do get sick of Hollywood’s perversion of male and female roles in society. It gets real old. But remember it is their job to provide us with fantasy, and it is apparent they live in a fantasy world.
All in all, I think you are a little bitter here, but understandably so. Best of luck to you and thanks for some good moments on TV.
I appreciate the perspective, and I certainly agree that the current Battlestar is bleak as all get out, and has been a big turn off for me.
I remember when the Sci-Fi channel aired the initial TV movie that launched the new series. I eagerly awaited it because it looked very well done for a TV movie, plus I watched Battlestar reruns as a kid.
And it was cool. But by the end of the two day miniseries I was totally bummed. It all seemed so dark and postmodern. I never really paid attention to it after that.
Yet, some of Benedict’s criticisms are going a bit too far. “Men hand out cigars, and women hand out babies?” Hmm. I am all for masculinity, but I am not for chauvinism, and that statement to me smacks of it.
In truth, there would be nothing wrong with the current incarnation of Starbuck IF the men weren’t portrayed as ridiculously as they are. That’s the secret here: let’s not go back to the stereotyped portraits of women in TV from the past, but let’s also get away from the current stereotype of weak, broken men. Only then will we get something of an accurate portrayal of women AND men in Hollywood and TV.
I’m betraying my age, but I came after the original BSG. But I’ve never gotten into the new one. This article pretty well articulates why. Even without any knowledge or familiarity of the original incarnation, I could still never get into the sexy robot show. Terminator does it better.
Wow, awesome article!
I have to say, I agree with you BIG TIME about the new BSG. I tried so hard to get to like it. I watched 2 and a half seasons of it and then finally couldn’t take it anymore.
I tried to overlook the complete lack of moral clarity shown by the writers, but finally just had to give up.
Their distorted view of the way they wish the world (and people) would be simply created a bunch of very unrealistic characters and ethical situations.
It’s too bad, because this was one show that I really wanted to like.
Props to you for speaking out!
Dirk is Definitely not a member of the “New Castrati.”
I have also noticed that most of the remakes of shows I liked in the 70’s and 80’s seem to suck when they try to modernize them to fit our current vapid culture. We used to have interesting, rich charachters, with imaginitive plots, and semi-interesting dialogue. Now it’s like they just pick a bunch of pretty faced models who can barely read their poorly written lines, thow in a couple of explosions and car chases and call it good. Like most aspects of our culture, TV has been signifigantly dumbed-down. I stopped watching network sitcoms after seinfeld. All the good, smartly written stuff is on HBO now. I agree that the battlestar galactica remake is truly awful. The original wasnt exactly “Gone with the Wind”, but at least it wasnt preachy, morally conflicted, and acted by boring airhead models. By the way, did you see the Knight-rider re-make. It really stunk as well! That was another cool show from the 80’s that I liked. I am confident they will screw up the A-team as well.
It is about time someone called it like it is. Thanks Dirk!
Ronald Moore did a fantastic job with the upbeat positive future of Star Trek, but missed the mark by a mile with this depressing view of humanity.
Star Trek proved that a moral, positive future sells!
Excellent post, Mr. Benedict! I’ve been waiting for 10 years to read something like this. That’s how long it’s been since the combat battle woman character stopped being new and creative and started being a tired symbol of gender feminist empowerment.
Interestingly, it’s been mainly the male writers and directors who promulgate the archetype. It also appears to be popular with some portion of the male audience as well. This has left me wondering what makes some men attracted to the physically aggresive/violent woman character.
Metro-sexual, Metro-schmetual… we real women like our men to be MEN! Keep fighting the good manly fight, Mr. Benedict! Truly enjoyed your article!
When I found out the new BSG changed Starbuck to a Stardoe, that pretty much killed my interest right there. I have many friends who rave about the new BSG but I don’t need another bleak show to watch either. Whatever happened to the idea of being FUN?
No offense, Dirk. But Katee Sackhoff could kick your ass with one hand tied behind her back.
FYI: The guy who posted at 11:06am is not the “real” K, real being defined as the guy who posted as such on Libertas and DH’s Place, or as in “Me”.
With the increase in posters, someone may want to implement passwords and name control so that walking over other people’s handle is less likely.
Just sayin.
The title of this post may have well as been “Aging has-been Actor: Has Chip on Shoulder, Will Travel”.
Dirk,
Being a child of the 70’s I definitely grew up a follower of BSG. I also grew up a follow of the SWG. I draw no distinction as some of my fellow posters so please disregard those that do (which I’m sure you have over 20 years ago). Not only did I follow you’re TV exploits but some of your movies as well; “Scavenger Hunt” happens to be one of my favorites.
Every time I see your name on the net, news, etc it peaks my interest to see what you’ve been up to as I did here today. We may be older but damn if we’re not wiser. As I do agree with your views on the new BSG I do like the series. Since I can compare to the original to see what matches up and where they tried to substitute via symbolizing or in the writing it is mostly eye candy.
Don’t worry about the naysayers since the original series filled a void in my 8 year old imagination that is still there today. The new series only reinforces it.
And Dirk….KEEP ON ROCKIN’!
Geesh, Stickwick, buzzkill much? We’re talking about a TV show. Katee Sackhoff’s Starbuck can indeed kick ass, even with the boys. And trust me, it’s entirely believable on the screen. Which is what counts. Becuz we’re talking about a TV show.
As for kicking Dirk’s ass, c’mon, how hard can that be? Anyone who whines like that will hardly be protected by a ‘feminist fallacy.’
Mr Benedict
The castration occured in the first BG, when they in the show, it caved to the realignment of the sexes by having women in the military , and then the viper pilots, it occurred when you were in the first and your character started to be removed. Secondly seriously all, whether star trek or other always has this weakman syn. along with all the weak men in all TV? From Lucy to now, men are either stupid, or weak. for a very long time, and women either manipulative or using sex to get what they want, aside from occassional older western or commando with the now gov. of cal. tell me where is a strong man of good character to show younger men how to act? or a woman of good character to act to show younger women a goal to act like ? where they are not using sex appeal in some way, but just in a good wise form as an intellegent woman, not dominating men but acting as a woman but equal? not smoking a cigar as a casterated starbuck? *( aside CIS Miami or other?)
And in all of the Sci Fi or the like, where the sexes are reverse or the men drinking drunk and the women controling in some odd lesbos fantasy, most often all societies are failing anyway as most sci fi in the end is dark. What world do the wish to have? no one is ever shown a good world in the end
Then as the goal of all of this is to make women in combat acceptable
the question is
If mum is off at war and coming back with a arm or leg missing or more as from Iraq or the like
or medical conditions so cannot have babies,
how will a society survive? in the us or anywhere, and please no response of oh then we won’t have war,
the enemy does not think this way,,,,,,,,,ask the women under the taliban or else where
The Next Question is then
after the next major war, *( as history always repeats it self sooner or later )
and the feminist have there way and male and female is drafted,,,,,,,,,,,
who in the end will car for the older generation? as there will be no one to bare children and to raise them?
some children yes,,,,,,,,,,but not enough
It is the logical end of all of this, when all are drafted and the technology available now used in war,
and everyone brain washed for such a long time to find it acceptable
without thought to the future
Why not show this evitable conclusion in the movies and all else?
You end with a war with China, as China always has if you read the battle plans for war and all general there forever state the need for war without reproach from anyone in the government
aside the casualties of war here
the young will come back in number unable to reproduce, so a generation comes where the old are not able to be cared for
there is not enough to pay the taxes
then what?
How does Hollywood *( as it always wishes to be a window to push progress ) not show the end of this thought pattern
Oh Starbucks, You were soooo cute and I loved you. Ignore these meanies; they have nothing to do since the election is history. I think you are correct; the world is turned upset down.
Thank you Dirk,
I feel better not watching the new show after reading your feelings and knowing now that I am not only not alone but rather, in very good company. I’m glad that you’re calling out the moral relativism because that is what made me stop watching it in the first season. It was like the scene that ruined Full Metal Jacket for me.
A bunch of Marines agonizing over killing a female sniper that had just shot up their buddies?… I wanted to scream at the screen “NO NO NO!”
I thought for awhile about whether I wanted to respond to this little tantrum. I have a kind of appreciation for the original BSG, even with its metal Cylons, wooden acting and leaden scripts.
Glen Larson offered an amped-up Republic serial, screened through the ordure magnifier of late 1970s episodic network television, dumbed down and Lucas-ized to the point that network executives could comprehend it. Fun while it lasted, and could be ingested without any reflection or thought whatsoever (“The Lost Warrior,” anyone?). The new BSG aims at another level of storytelling and drama entirely, and it happens to use some familiar names and backstory to do so. It may or may not be great literature, but it’s as far above the original BSG as “Les Miserables” is above Batman, even if both of those involve the cost of the obsessive pursuit of justice.
Mr. Benedict may be right as he bemoans the loss of masculinity in Hollywood role models. I would hesitate to single out Starbuck and Templeton Peck as exemplars of that masculinity, however, unless the definition of masculinity were to be expanded to include “superficial and one-dimensional, but amusing and diverting for about forty minutes at a time.”
Of course, since we’re discussing subjective matters such as the quality of television dramas, Mr. Benedict is entitled to have a point of view and put it forth. I am entitled to respond as I see fit, which is to begin giving it the overlooking it deserves as soon as I have clicked on “Submit Comment.”
Although I agree with the feminization of our culture rant, give me a break Dirk. How happy go lucky would you be if almost the entire human race was obliterated in a nuclear holocaust and you forced to live in unpleasant conditions aboard a starship constantly worried about enemy attack?
The new Knight Rider series does to The Hoff’s incarnation of Michael Knight what the New Battlestar Galactica does to Dirt’s incarnation of Starbuck.
Big Hollywood is a wonderful site. It is absolutely delightful to know that a star of the original show disagrees with the relentless hype that the new, unwatchable series gets. The original was hammy schlock, but entertaining hammy schlock; the new one is yet another tedious, politically-correct soap opera of the sort that juveniles (of all ages) think sophisticated.
To read all of this blather about masculinity, I’m surprised you guys aren’t whining that women have property rights and the right to vote.
Dirk, I am an avid fan of BSG re-imagined. Realize that every good story line has already been written, anything we/they come up with from about 2000 years ago until a million years from now will just be a version of the same several stories.
And I have to ask…why are you so threatened by a slightly more masculine woman? Starbuck (or Stardoe if it makes you feel better) is a complex character with more sides to her than almost any other character on tv or otherwise. And the women on the show are not the only ones who are tough in a crisis. And give me a break, everyone is confllicted and emotional.
I will concede your point however, that feminism has taken away masculinity from men. And that is a truly painful loss. But don’t blame BSG for it. It may be the last show lieft where women are women(although they might be a little more realistic than your antiquated veiw of them) and men are men(although they might not be ridiculous neanderthals like you wish they all were).
Lastly, the true validity in your rant is that the terrorists/cylons have become victims. However, sometimes you have to deal with the devil. Didn’t Britain/USA team up with Stalin in WWII in an effort to get rid of Hitler? All BSG does is explore that angle of conflict. It’s real and valid. So remove yourself from the 70’s my friend. The world has changed.
Dirk B – a.k.a. Starbuck… you nailed it, buddy. The de-balling of men and the all-knowing, evermore masculine women…boring. Starbuck was a cool character, and Athena was hot. The new women are hot but lack humanity, no femininity. Just watch the old movies, and women had personality, great lines, great screen presence…not a lick of butch, angry, dyke to be seen! The pendulum will swing back, but for now, we have to endure the bull-dyke and vixen with a weenie thing. How sad. Real women were so much more entertaining and sexy.
Being a SF fan since birth, I think, I will always give these types of series or movies a more than fair break and watch them. Time after time, I end up shaking my head in disappointment. Not being a writer, I can only speculate about the composition of such things, but SF movies, and especially TV shows, just tend to suck!
In most books, the good writers will take time to explain the un-imaginable or develop the characters. I know the budget for SF shows would be huge if the original intent of the writer would actually be attempted. So, more often than not, they suck (and you know what I mean, don’t you?). “Cartoony” characters, stupid little robots (remember “Buck Rogers in the 25th Century?), etc. usually make up the typical cast.
While I see your points about the new BSG, I’m just happy that someone even tried to do something “deeper”. I always would watch a show like “Law & Order” and think “why can’t SF show characters have this kind of depth?” I remember how impressed I was the first time I saw “Alien”…all the previous SF movies were all so “clean” (like Star Trek…BTW, why don’t any male crew members turn and ogle “Seven of Nine” as she walks by? Come ON!!).
To me, this could be considered the first real attempt at good television SF and should be supported (with criticism included) while shows similar to “Bionic Woman” should just be given the boot (and was, I think!). It doesn’t mean that I think it’s perfect, just that the attempt to do something more than the usual TV-show thing is a good thing.
Hollywood advise from Dirk Benedict. Yup: Big Hollywood sure is cutting edge.
Zzzzzz-list is more like it.
“Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Hamlet does not scan as Hamletta. Nor does Hans Solo as Hans Sally. Faceman is not the same as Facewoman. Nor does a Stardoe a Starbuck make. Men hand out cigars. Women “hand out” babies. And thus the world for thousands of years has gone ’round.”
Lovin’ it. Hope we see your ‘face’ around here more often, Dirk.
Dirk. I thought that TV shows and movies were meant to entertain first, then provoke thoughts or emotion, but you’re absolutely correct that they’re now use to sell ad time and numb your senses or nads, while not offending any minority groups. Now the only womanizing, stokie puffing male character left is James Bond. Long live… Oh, wait! Damnnnnn it!!!
Well said!!!
The original was not a favorite of mine – some of the stories smelled so bad that the stinch lasted for weeks!
Dirk,
Thank you for writing this article. I have watched some of the new BSG and agree with your assessment of the “vagi****zed” portrayal of men. As a fan of A-Team and Battlestar, 007 by Sean Connery and Roger Moore, I used to be comfortable just being a man. However, if you act that way today, you are called a dinasour, misogynist, and chauvinist. Now, I believe in equality but I also believe in gender roles and identity. I believe that is OK and the way G-D intended it. The original BSG was about good and evil, survival or death, rich and poor, family and humanity. The special effects in the new BSG are interesting but most shows today rely strongly on that aspect. I wish you well and OBSG will still be the best.
Andrew
Two seasons ago, I would have told Mr. Benedict he’s crazy. I fell hook line and sinker into the series. Upon further review, he hits the nail on the head.
The series is drowning in its own moral ambiguity and ardent political correctness. Once the shock and awe story telling became the norm, the show was exposed. I’m all for strong women, but I also don’t want my intelligence insulted. Watching Kara Thrace knock out guys in the boxing ring and stand toe-to-toe with men twice her size, I realized its nothing but PC schlock.
The battle Mr. Benedict had in controlling his character, to me, makes him admirable. Too bad there isn’t more like him.
The remake fad has done nothing but exposed Hollywood’s current intelligentsia for the frauds they are. Not only are they bankrupt creatively – they can’t make anything new – they fail to capture what made those originals so appealing in the first place. Sitting through the first 15 minutes of Knight Rider, seeing Iraq war contractors portrayed as murderers and have a lesbian cop dress down and a threesome for the hero before the opening commercial expo. The writers were more interested in shoving their own morality down the audience’s throat than telling a story.
I’m all for shades of gray and interesting stories, but man, the rampant cynicism. Was everyone in Hollywood abused as children?
For once someone has the balls to stand up and speak the thruth. I too am a fan of the original show. Dirk is 100% corect!
It used to be (In the movies)that the girl would run screaming from a monster. Now, the girl beats up the monster! It is common to see 200lb. men on TV get beat up by a 110 lb. woman. The Scifi channel is the worst offender. In the show called Eurika, a woman grabs a male* by crotch and squeezes as hard as she can to get him to comply. Now, can you imagine if the rolls were reversed! *Notice I used the word male not man. In today’s world there are very few men left.
You can still see tough guys in movies and on TV, but there is always a woman who is just as tough as his side kick. The problem today is that the average guy has been castrated. He is afraid to speak out. He can’t even ask a girl he works with on a date, or risk losing his job.
All I can say to my brothers is WAKE UP! If you don’t stand up now you will be the one wearing the apron baking cookies!
What was Dirk’s last gig? Celebrity Big Brother–UK edition, right? I guess on reflection he has reason to be so bitter…
Sure, the original Battlestar Galacita wasn’t the greatest TV show in the world (that was Six Million Dollar Man), but that didn’t matter to the 8-year-old me, who along with all my friends and brother abandoned the baseball or football games we played with the last remaining strands of Sunday night sunlight to head inside to watch the show. Star Wars retread or not, what more did little boys need?
I tried to watch the “un-imagined” Battlestar, but couldn’t make it past the first three episodes, for pretty much the same reasons mentioned above, as well as why I find it harder and harder to listen to the music coming from long-time faves like Mellencamp and Springsteen: my world is not a depressing one, nor do I want to have it dictated to me that the world around me is. Offer me solutions, but offer me these alternatives and I’ll decline.
Great use of “scoundrel,” too, Mr. Benedict (and nice to see ya ’round these parts!). We knew damn well you were a weekly dose of Han Solo and we loved it. What’s also better to know some thirty years later — ugh! — is you’d still shoot first at Greedo if given the chance.
Sure, the original Battlestar Galacita wasn’t the greatest TV show in the world (that was Six Million Dollar Man), but that didn’t matter to the 8-year-old me, who along with all my friends and brother abandoned the baseball or football games we played with the last remaining strands of Sunday night sunlight to head inside to watch the show. Star Wars retread or not, what more did little boys need?
I tried to watch the “un-imagined” Battlestar, but couldn’t make it past the first three episodes, for pretty much the same reasons mentioned above, as well as why I find it harder and harder to listen to the music coming from long-time faves like Mellencamp and Springsteen: my world is not a depressing one, nor do I want to have it dictated to me that the world around me is. Offer me solutions, but offer me these alternatives and I’ll decline.
Great use of “scoundrel,” too, Mr. Benedict (and nice to see ya ’round these parts!). We knew damn well you were a weekly dose of Han Solo and we loved it. What’s also better to know some thirty years later — ugh! — is you’d still shoot first at Greedo if given the chance.
(Sorry if this a double post — damn devouring rabbit hole!!!)
Re: the Law & Order example; the point I was trying to make was that by comparison, Law & Order’s characters, even with all the PC gobbledygook, are STILL more realistic then 90% of SF show characters. BSG gets closer anyway.
That is perhaps the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. You know what? I’m going to go out and buy the DVD of the OS, maybe not now but soon when I have money.
I have quite a crush with Starbuck, sorry to say, and my wife doesn’t understand when I try to be a cylon around the house. But the current show is one of the best on TV, despite the twisted plot last season. So hopefully someday are real Starbuck or Faceman will return, till then I’ll have a Scotch and stoogie while the current Starbuck is overtaken with emotion and imagine it’s me she cant get out of her head.
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Will we soon be reading an essay by Gil Gerard about his problems with the homo-erotic leanings of Twikki on “Buck Rogers”?
I agree with Dirk. I hate the whole, “let’s remake movie/TV/song/comic X!”. Can media just be original and tell and NEW story. I loved the old BSG. Why remake it? Can we have a NEW BSG or NEW Star Wars or NEW Star Trek, nota remake but something completely NEW. Where are the new George Lucas’? All of these remakes are blocking the new ideas/creators.
I gueess the NEW stuff has to go to the web, forget TV.
I was watching G4 the other day and they had an animated “re-image” of Space Balls?!? Space Balls!!! We’ve come to the point where we have to “re-image” SPACE BALLS!!!!
I agree with Dirk, let’s be creative and make “new stuff,” Leave to old shows and movies alone. imho
It is very simple. Times have changed … for the worse. There was a time when civility, courtesy, morality, intellectual discourse was the norm. No matter what your status, rich man or poor man, male or female, adult or child you treated people with dignity, reviled that which was immoral and sought to speak with your highest intellectual capability.
Now, we not only behave badly, but we teach our children to think, behave and communicate at the lowest common denominator. Everyone is more interested in themselves than others. Nothing is immoral and even if it is, give it ten years and it won’t be. And as for discussions about such issues, it is useless. Any discussion must have common ground, and younger adults and children know nothing of the period shortly after the turn of the century (1900). And when we do speak, it is with less than 8th grade grammar and vocabulary.
In 1900, it would not be uncommon for a man of 8th grade education, working on a farm or garbage collecting in a big city, to open the door for a lady, call her ma’am and converse with her using words which today would only be found in Collegiate level spelling books.
It is no wonder, that even the old TV shows are un-imagined to fit the new paradigm.
I must agree, I got just shy of sick watching the Premiere of “Battlestar Galactica” on Sci-Fi a couple years back. Nothing but a Femi-Nazi political hack job that reeked of political points over plot.
At least the original was as shamelessly fun as smoking cigars and womanizing! Even if it was more closely a Saturday Morning cartoon than sci-fi epic. On the sci-fi fan side, the original series was always remembered fondly. Big ships and sleek star fighters that weren’t Star Wars have been a part of the science fiction gaming community for decades.
One final lasting impression the ORIGINAL Battlestar series had; the F-16 Fighting Falcon is never actually called Falcon by its pilots, aircrews, or any active duty USAF personnel except in official documents. The proper title for an F-16 un-officially (and therefore 90% of the time!) is VIPER… In honor of the impression that Vipers in the series had on USAF fighter pilots… Mr. Benedict, you played your character too real, every fighter pilot was like that back then!
Point well taken.
I was watching Predator with a buddy a few weeks ago and we got to wondering where all the real men went. Even if the movies were over-the-top and unrealistic, at least we had heroes who’d grab the BS by the horns and do something manly to take care of a problem. Now, where are the Stallones, the Bruce Willises, the Swartzeneggers, the Mel Gibsons? Nowhere to be found. Todays heroes think it’s manly to protest and file lawsuits. Even Superman is a weenie who’d now be dead if it wasn’t for Lois Lane coming to his rescue.
Hollywood is consumed with metrosexual pussies. The toughest current guys we could come up with in our nostalgic game were Samuel Jackson and Will Smith. I like them, but they’re hardly Swartzenegger. Heck, they’re not even Chuck Norris.
Thanks Dirk for the essay. The old show brings back fond memories as much as the new show feels like nails on a chalkboard. The trouble with SciFi is the need to include sex to spruce up the show – hot cylons? Check. Someone wanted teenage boys to have enough fantasy material for a week. Dr Who has also fallen into this trap, and at times it makes the show a midday soap opera than scifi.
Strong female characters have their place in scifi, but the new BSG had to make it their cause. I wonder if any of the male characters would be considered strong.
The new show has ambiguous heroes and villains. They twist the formula around so it was really kewl. That’s sarcasm for those who don’t know it. It makes for a grey show that gets you wondering if you can root for one side if there is a “side”. I have come to the opinion that the new show needs to frak the entire universe as the characters mean less and less with each episode. The old BSG was lighthearted, and the new series has torture, rape and suicide. They just don’t compare except in name alone.
As someone who was put out when I first heard Starbuck was a woman in the new series, I still don't really agree with this assessment. The new BSG doesn't seem (to me) to be a statement about feminism but rather that women, given the opportunity, can be just as aggressive, angry and sexual as men. The world isn't the same place now as it was when the original "Battlestar" was aired so it doesn't make sense to produce the same show. And in this show we still have a shameless womanizer, only this time it's Baltar; and the repercussions of his libido are devastating. I think the writers of the new show took everything from the original into account; they just made the newer version quite a bit more thoughtful and mature.
Good to hear from you though Dirk. You always were my favorite from the original series.
Thank you, thank you, thank you Dirk! I can’t stand the new Battlestar Gallactica. They could have done SO MUCH more with the series, but they blew it, and it is just so freaking politically correct it makes me sick!
Maybe the human race got it’s ass kicked by the Cylons because the men had turned into a bunch of sissymarys, and the woman are all butch!
Looks like they are doing something right with this show, it has been on for 4+ seasons.
YOWCH!
Overheard in Hollywierd: “REAL Starbuck sank my Battlestar!”
I was willing to tolerate this little (insert euphemism for illegitimate male child) of a show until last season.
Now it’s pure soap opera schlock. I don’t even bother to read the episode summaries now.
The real Galactica was fine wine.
The rip-off is “Cheez” in a can.
Same as the difference between real American and soon-to-open theme park ObamaLand, actually.
Excellent essay, Starbuck. Heck, they even turned Boomer into a girl. There are so many women on the show that they couldn’t fit Cassiopeia in anywhere, and had to recycle Boomer into Athena.
I do not enjoy watching the new Battlestar Galactica. After seeing Callie get blown out the airlock and seeing Dualla shoot herself in the head like that, I dread having to watch the next episode. But frak, I have to find out what happens. And that keeps me watching.
This is a different story. For better or worse, this is a different story.
At least we haven’t seen the fraking “Ship of Lights” yet. That kinda pissed me off in the original series.
The original was fun, and the new one is a different animal, but it’s also one of the best dramas on television. I guess he views Richard Hatch as a traitor for joining the cast?
Right on, Dirk my man. I loved the original series, even if it was campy (but as bleak as the new one is, I sure found your Baltar a helluva lot scarier than the current Nancy-boy. We miss you John Colicos!) And of course original Starbuck was awesome. Jeez, it’s not like he was groping women inappropriately. Just a friendly, flirtatious giy smoking cigars. Basically Arnold before he was Arnold. My friends are into the new BG and both made me watch episodes of it, and it bored me. It is meandering and nihilist. But you really encapsulated why I hate the new show, I just couldn’t put my finger on it until now.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like staring at Grace Park and the blondes, but I’d prefer that a male Starbuck was chasing them around the station, not being emasculated out of the show. I saw Richard Hatch on the show once (again, forced to watch), and I perked up, now you are talking! Benedict must be next! But no, now I see why no Benedict. Your cheerful, masculine approach 1s so 1978. Sadly. I think I shall have a cigar in Old Starbuck’s honor.
Hasn’t this essay been out for a while? Could have sworn I read it a few years ago.
Anyway, I loved the original series when I was a kid. Bought the DVDs, usually watch the series through about every 7 or 8 months, I’d guess. I keep meaning to count how many times the series showed the Vipers being launched, but I always forget. And the acting was kind of hokey, but forgivable given the time and the target audience.
I’ll watch the new series, when I’m in the mood. But, where the original series showed that humanity could remain noble and good in the face of adversity, the new series shows the opposite. I’m usually not in the mood for that. If I want to watch about how much humanity sucks, I’ll watch the news.
As far as the new “Starbuck” character goes, I generally like the Kara Thrace character. But she’s not Starbuck. (and Boomer, who I always thought was the most professional and dependable of the Viper pilots, as a Cylon? what’s next, introducing Michael Clarke Duncan as Sheba? that would seem to fit the “reimagining.”)
Would’ve been nice to see Mr. Benedict reprise Fred Astaire’s role as Chameleon, though.
The new Battlestar Galactica is grim
I watched the original series and liked the action and inter action among the characters. I also liked all the pretty women on the show. None looked liked a biker chick
Mr. Benedict is right. Dammit. It is true the series is oft times protracted punctuated by boredom, it is bleak, and it is dismal. And I am hooked. I have been since season one, and now I can not quit, not now. When it is gone, I will be immensely relieved and probably disappointed since I don’t expect the show to end in any kind of upbeat fashion. So, bring on the finale, the denouement and end this drudgery.
Then again the end may have been rewritten since the “messiah” is about to ascend thee cherry blossom throne.
Dirk is right! The show is entertaining because the cast is fraking excellent. I colloquially call this show EMOstar Galactica now sense the dark and despair seem to have taken over. What bugs me and probably Dirk too is that human nature just isn’t like that. Look at the folk who crashed into the Hudson. A plane crash is probably the one time you can be assured you can kiss your butt goodbye, and these folks came together and got them selves out of that plan with out one bit of panic.
The one character on the new BSG that is truly a mans man is Helo and I hope Tahmoh Penikett gets more rolls in this mold. Adama does to some extent but gets all weepy ever other scene…
I don’t think it is fair to compare the two BSG series. No more than one could compare the TV Batman series to the movies. Sure they share a name and basic plot, but that is where is ends — both are entertaining, but in different ways. The original BSG was more akin to reading a good comic book — it was in its own way, campy — sort of like Stargate. The current BSG is more of a sci-fi opera or Shakespearean tragedy. At its core, BSG II tackles the question of the need for sentient beings to have spirituality in order to maintain a balance, given knowledge of it’s own demise. Sure, BSG II is dark, sinister at times and morally ambiguous. Then again, so was Hamlet and MacBeth!
I have fond memories of the original series — even if it doesn’t live up to the memories, it far surpasses the new piece of dreck, and utterly blows away Star Wars I, II, and III. I tried watching the new series, and gave up in about twenty minutes. They couldn’t hold the damned camera still: it wasn’t even an action sequence, it was two people SEATED HAVING A CONVERSATION. The other bits I’ve seen of it have shown it to be dreary, plodding, and BORING.
Faceman, you are the Ace ,man.
You said it Dirk, couldn’t agree more!
What makes it worse, is men have given up and given in. So many men today actually think their masculinity is a problem!?
Very few stand there ground, like me, yes… you can be a good man and still hold keep your masculinity.
Glad you are too Dirk, loved Battlestar Galactica, and the A-Team!!
I am woman. I have no gonads. I watched the original show, both when it aired, and in syndication. I LOVED Starbuck. I refuse to watch the “new” Battlestar Galactica when I found out they made Starbuck a woman. I yelled at the screen “STARBUCK IS A DUDE!!! He’s my cigar chomping womanizing man!NOT a woman!”
I have no interest in watching this show, ever, even if it DOES have Lucy Lawless in it.
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