Movies We Like: ‘Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang’
by Chris Yogerst“It’s one of those parties where if a girl is named Jill she spells it J-Y-L-L-E, ya know…that s**t.” –Harry Lockhart
Those who have read my piece about a film noir revival and the film Brick know that I am an emphatic fan of the noir genre. While I have a deep love for the classics that fell within the initial movement (arguably 1941-1959), there are still some neo-noir films that spark my interest (not enough, which is why I asked for a revival!). One of these films is the extremely fun Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. It is a very different noir film that is funny and opposite the dark, desperate, lonely noir films of years past.

In a rare combination of coincidences, Harry Lockhart (Robert Downey Jr.) is a petty thief in New York City who finds himself auditioning for a role in a new detective film. He goes to Los Angeles after being accepted as a potential candidate. Harry is a fast-talking, chain smoking and delightfully sarcastic protagonist that makes this neo-noir film one of the best.
After getting invited to a party in the Hollywood hills, Harry meets Gay Perry (Val Kilmer). Perry is an (ironically gay) quick-witted private investigator that asks Harry to participate in a murder investigation in preparation for his potential film role. Perry’s homosexuality plays on the theorists of the 1940’s and 1950’s that psychoanalyzed many noir protagonists as being gay men (I know, those theories are a stretch at times).
Also at the party is Harry’s high school sweetheart, Harmony Faith Lane (Michelle Monaghan). She is an aspiring actress who fled her life in the Midwest to pursue a career in Hollywood. Unfortunately, her only claim to fame is a dorky beer commercial. She is a type of spider woman (men get caught in her web of problems). However, the difference is that she is not anti-heroic. Her intentions throughout the film are good, but her bad luck lands hard on both Harry and Perry. Harmony is an unintentional seductress that seduces Harry into her life. In turn, her problems end up his problems.
As luck would have it, Harry, Harmony, and Perry all end up in the middle of a life-threatening murder investigation full of quick witted and humorous dialogue. While aesthetically appealing, this film is largely driven by the character’s conversations. Note one of my favorite scenes below after Harry notices a corpse in his bathtub while peeing. Understandably startled, he turns quickly and accidentally pees on it.
Harry: I peed on the corpse. Can they do, like, an ID from that?
Perry: I’m sorry, you peed on…?
Harry: On the corpse. My question is…
Perry: No, my question. I get to go first. Why in pluperfect hell would you pee on a corpse?
Visually, the film is not necessarily noir since most scenes, even those at night, are very bright. Thematically and dialogically, however, it is very much noir. Much of the film is told by a voice over narration from Harry. The nature of his narration is often self-reflexive as he acknowledges the film audience, which makes it fun. Perry even says, “Do not play detective. This is not a book. This is not a movie.” Voice over Narration and self-reflexivity is common in noir film (see both at work in Billy Wilder’s Sunset Boulevard).
Harry: “Wow, I feel sore. I mean physically, not like a guy who’s angry in a movie in the 1950’s.”
Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is also reflexive of the source material for many of the detective films of the 1940’s. Harmony is a lifelong fan of hard-boiled Jonny Gossamer novels, which provide a throwback to the work of Raymond Chandler. Many of Chandler’s books have been made into films, for example: The Long Goodbye, The Big Sleep, and Murder, My Sweet.
Harry provides a great contrast between the private eye (Perry) and the everyman (aka the viewer). He represents everything that could possibly go wrong when the average person would attempt to be a private detective. He realizes he can’t physically defend himself, every “real” criminal has the drop on him (they easily plant a corpse in his hotel room), and he has no real detecting skills.
In many ways Perry is a typical hard-boiled detective but the fact that he is gay makes for some hilariously awkward situations that never would have worked in the classic Humphrey Bogart films (Hays code wouldn’t allow). Towards the beginning Harry asks Perry, “Still gay?” Perry responds sarcastically, “Me? No. I’m knee-deep in p***y. I just like the name so much, I can’t get rid of it.”
Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is a great revisionist noir that relies on self-reflexive humor to keep the film running on a positive note. By making a big deal out of everything large and small throughout the film, Harry’s dialogue and narration keeps the audience smiling. There are enough classical references to keep film buffs happy but there is also enough contemporary humor to keep the film from feeling dated. It is one of the most overlooked films in recent year; if you haven’t seen it go check it out!






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I LOVE this movie. It's one of my favorite hidden treasures. Val Kilmer and Robert Downey are amazing as always, Michelle Monaghan is stunning and believable as the wanna-be who has failed (despite being the hottest girl in her home town), and the plot is wonderfully hashed out with a mixture of tense scenes, great dialog, and unexpected twists. I was a little let down by the ending (the very end), but the rest of the movie is a thrill ride every time I watch it. One of the best blends of Comedy/Action that I've seen.
Nice call, Chris.
I liked your review of Brick and decided to watch it; I could only handle about 30 min. I hope this movie is as good as the review; it would be hard to phuq it up with this cast.
No joke, I was just talking about this STELLAR movie last night.
It is an absolutely perfect gem. Downey is always amazing, and totally just kills again in this movie. Kilmer — whose personality has been well-documented — is pitch-perfect in this film that shows what a remarkable talent writer/director Shane Black is.
Oh, yeh, a Gem. But do listen closely to the dialogue. We roared with laughter, then watched again with friends who insisted on chatting while watching and thought the movie was just so-so.
I LOVE good dialog movies and this is one of my favorites … its immensely quotable.
I've had to stop and laugh out loud a few times remembering scenes from this movie (at the moment I'm laughing at the line "Who taught you math?" (those that have seen the movie will remember it and probably laugh too).
and of course there's …
Perry: Look up Idiot in the dictionary and you know what you'll find?
Harry (sarcastically): A picture of me?
Perry: No the definition of idiot, which you f***ing are!"
All points agreed. I happened upon this movie at Blockbuster and was very surprised at how well it was made. I then went straightaway to Amazon and bought it.
I Love This Movie! I seen it one night on FLIX. I laughed my ass off! It's a great movie to watch if you're slightly stoned…. or really stoned, well… not really stoned like… orib-stoned, That would mean you'd be too out of it to appreciate it. Anyway it's terrific and everyone should watch it.
Oh yeah, get stoned first
Sigh. The families who get caught in the cross-hairs of US/Mexico border violence from dug cartels would not be amused with your offhanded endorsement of marijuana all in the name of increasing the enjoyment of a movie rental. Nor would law enforcement and Native Americans battling said cartels growing pot in reservations and federal forests. Not to mention the fire crews who have to put out the fires, often jumping in due to remote location and terrain, the cartel illegals start from drug induced neglect or evasion. Pushing the use of an illegal substance shows you are not thinking of the children. At this time of year, it might do you good to reflect on your need to have your destructive behaviour validated.
I have often looked for a sequel to this movie for it was fun.
cinderedfellee – My last two posts on Big Hollywood have purposely been for to expose the fact that most everyone who posts here is walking around with a stick up their ass. I suppose I will get a -13 for the above post also. Just checking. Party lines indeed. One side's just as unattractive as the other.
Or, y'know, you could just ditch the nonsense illegality that makes all the other stuff happen and just sell the damn thing at Walgreens. I mean, y'know, if you'd like to actually see that stuff STOP…
I agree the dialog is great with some awesome one liners.
At work we sometimes throw quotes from our favourite movies at each other and this one if one of the best for it and we have actually used the above quote about idiots when referring to some people at work.
Agreed, great movie, great lines, great acting, wonderfully referential. And I learned useful things from the review.
Also, the movie is emotionally quite powerful as well as funny.
I've never watched this movie. I own a copy, but each time my wife and I try to watch it, I start saying "Kiss Kiss!" and she starts saying "Bang! Bang!" and we forget to watch it.
Banish them to the hell of people talking in theaters
arguably the best Broderick has made
and the second best Kilmer did
Yeah, "talking monkey"…he only says "ficus".
broderick?? Whatchu talkin' about Willis?
If it were decriminalized, a great deal of the cartel violence would go away. Plus, you'd get to collect excise taxes as well as save BILLIONS of dollars on eradication programs, prosecutions, and imprisonments.
The science is pretty clear that alcohol, not pot, is actually MUCH more dangerous. But alcohol is legal, now is it?
I could do without a lot of the profanity, but oh, man, do I love this movie. I describe it as "Val Kilmer does his Val Kilmer thing and Robert Downey Jr. does his Robert Downey Jr. thing." Their performances are matured versions of the ones I fell in love with in "Real Genius" and "Tuff Turf," respectively. And what I love about Shane Black's writing (in addition to his love of the English language) is that his characters have character. Look at Sam Jackson's character in "The Long Kiss Goodnight," singing about where he's putting his keys. Black gives the character a quirk that also conveys information. Genius.
One of my favorite movies of the last decade. I also love Brick, for another great Val Kilmer neo noir film check out The Salton Sea.
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