GI Joe: An Obamanation
by Chris YogerstBy now, everyone should know that the new film, GI Joe: Rise of Cobra, is a despicable excuse for a movie. It was harshly panned by Big Hollywood as well as by me. For an action film, it is horrible, but for an American film, it is a disgrace.
Director Stephen Sommers said, “this is not a George Bush movie — it’s an Obama world.” Sounds to me that since Bush is no longer president it is supposed to legitimize the disintegration of patriotism for our armed forces. That would explain why the Joe’s are no longer the all American heroes they once were. Instead, they are a multinational task force that picks up the pieces after the USA fails.
This film represents everything President Obama worshipers stand for, which explains the lack of Americanism.GI Joe has always been a vehicle of unapologetic patriotism. What happened? Obama happened. For some reason, it now feels like multiculturalism was not acceptable until Obama was elected into office?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but our US armed forces were made up of the best men and women of all colors before Obama was elected, right?Yeah, thought so.
In a LA Times piece, Paramount Vice Chairman Rob Moore said, “Our starting point for this movie is not Hollywood and Manhattan but rather mid-America, there are a group of people we think are going to respond to the movie who are normally not the first priority. But we’re making them a priority.”
So by stripping Joe of his pure blooded Americansim, they are going to bank on Middle America as an audience? That doesn’t sound like a good move. Of course, many people will see this film thinking it will be some a pro-America and pro-military film. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
GI Joe obviously has a built in audience since it has been around for several decades. Fans should be offended by Hollywood’s attempt to indoctrinate them with their “Obama world” views through the lens of something that used to be American.
This film is a kick to the groin of Middle America, if there was not already enough reason to loathe the Hollywood elite, this should do it. From beginning to end, I kept saying to myself “how could they do this?” It would be one thing if this was a good action film with a misplaced title, but they can’t even give us that. They did give us a weird Brendan Fraser cameo, however.
Sommer’s went on to say, “Right from the writing stage we said to ourselves, this can’t be about beefy guys on steroids who all met each other in the Vietnam War, but an elite organization that’s made up of the best of the best from around the world.” Does that mean all action films are about beefy guys on steroids?
That might have been the case for some notable films of the 1980’s, but that isn’t the norm. Look at action star Nicholas Cage, definitely not on steroids. What about the main characters in great war films such as Saving Private Ryan, Full Metal Jacket, or The Great Escape. These guys aren’t beefed up; in fact, character’s in most war films are far from Rambo lookalikes.
The filmmakers could have easily made this film without the steroid types and kept the “American Hero” theme. Instead, they decided against it because after all, “it’s an Obama world.” That only means the push for anti-Americanism is at an all time high. Just like Obama and his cronies know they only have limited time to push all their agenda’s through before people catch on, Hollywood is capitalizing on the president’s popularity in order to push “world friendly” views.
Deadline Hollywood Daily reports that, “In the U.S., the studio expected the film to do best in so-called flyover country — the term Hollywood bestows on blue-collar moviegoers in the Midwest, South, and West where the common complaint is that liberal elites don’t make movies for their “God, guns, and country” tastes.”
This is hilarious, because even though the film has a clear line of good and evil, there is nothing that “flyover country” should appreciate. The new GI Joe film is how the so-called liberal elites see patriotism. To them, it means creating a politically correct melting pot of equality where no one gets offended.
To me, this is the culmination of the reverse McCarthyism that is going on in Hollywood. They took what should turn out as a pro-American if not also conservative film, and repackaged it for the “Obama world.” Hollywood has always been a wild place, but right now, we are amidst an Obamanation.
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"…beefy guys on steroids who all met each other in the Vietnam War."
Those guys are starting to draw their social security. Not that some of them couldn't still kick butt. But a bunch of action heroes queued up in line at the public toilet?
"G.I. Joe: When You Gotta Go, You Gotta Go"
Well, it would give Stallone a new vehicle.
"“Our starting point for this movie is not Hollywood and Manhattan but rather mid-America, there are a group of people we think are going to respond to the movie who are normally not the first priority. But we’re making them a priority.”"
Translation: "We realized we had a great stinking hundred-million dollar turd of a movie, but in our lefty Hollywood arrogance we figured anything with explosions in it would sell to the mouth-breathers in Flyover Country."
With apologies to Disney
"It's an Obama world, after all…"
They lost me at no sign of the American Flag and ninja suites in the trailer. Not a big fan of the franchise, but even I know this isn't G.I.Joe the American Hero. Rather, it is the International federation of Ninja enthusiasts with Matrix complexes.
America is the greatest nation on earth!
I ask you, what has the rest of the world contributed to global security?
NOTHING.
Not even the "enlightened" Europeans have done ANYTHING towards making this world a safer place.
Reminds me of the Super Bowl Halfrime show. That liberal Bruce Springsteen went through his entire slew of songs minus "Born in the USA", by far his most popular song. I wonder if he lost his American pride.
there was a film in the early 80's called 'Megaforce'…
Barry Bostwick, maybe? not sure. Anyway, it was an international quasi-military outfit that was similar conceptually to the GI Joe thing. Also not very good (ok- it was terrible) and not successful, it still had more pro-American sentiment in a half hour than this garbage had in the whole movie.
Point is, you can have that- without sacrificing the crucible of freedom that is America. Foreign box office? Give us a break. They love rah rah US stuff, always have. Maybe not in Paris, but the third world eats it up.
'Bonanza'- a unrepentant glorification of rugged individualism, paternalism, and capitalism- is still the most widely seen TV program in world history… yes, even more than 'Baywatch'. Which isn't very left wing either…
Face it- America sells, and everyone wants what we got- by hook or by (most likely) crook…
Don't waste your time our money. I found if very blah. My son missed the American flag and the patriotism. He watched G Ijoe as a kid. I found that Ididn't care about the "good guys" or the I couold careless about the bad guys and what they were doing to destroy the world. (who cares if France is destroyed?) there was not threat, the President was a wimp, the US military got wiped out in the begining of the movie so the Joes took over the mission, so the US military are wimps. Is this the obama world? We need to elect someone else in 2012. It can't come soon enough.
For the director to even say that is absurd. The script was written and filming began while Bush was still president and Obama was only a candidate with Hillary being the favorite Dem nominee.
You obviously missed the ending! When things got real bad the multi-national troops were ordered home. They disobeyed thier countries orders, mutinied, and join the Americans to fight. While and evil and anti-American imposter to over as President. I fail to see how that is inline with international liberal socialism of the obama collaid drinkers.
Won't see it, won't buy the b**tard version of an icon.
I'm sick to death of the mindless lectures from dolts who can barely articulate the most basic of American concepts, of individual liberty, of exceptionalism. I'm in the 97th percentile, and they tell me in no uncertain terms, my America is a mindless primitive that they must ,. sigh, always apologise for to their leftwing foreign brethren.
We are America, not the fraud that is Hollywood.
I wouldn’t care if an American flag was superimposed in the background throughout the movie, what a dumbass movie. I’m sorry but Hollywood is out of ideas and leave it to Hollywood to exacerbate this piece of crap by making it un-American.
Screw hollywood… read a book.
Catch Joe in an action sequence, “nap time.”
I have given up on Hollywood. I watch old movies on DVD, John Wayne etc. Still very entertaining.
I'm with you Harley2002,
About two years ago, my family stopped going to the theater and now we rent older movies.
Don't buy into hollywood nationalism. These are the very people who go hide behind
a camera or a national guard, while the rest of us go take other people's oil.
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Thanks for saving me the time and money… I haven't been paying close attention to the reviews and might have gone to see this movie this weekend. If they want to edit the "American Hero" part out of GI Joe… get rid of the flag and patriotic aspect, etc… I'll just edit my american dollars out of their coffers by not going to their movie. *shrug*. My wife and I have turned to old movies as well in the search for entertainment. Stepping away from comic books and GI Joe, there are sooooo many great stories from US history out there, so many movies could be made… but Hollywood would rather take the Leftist tactic of never doing anything that makes the USA look good. Even if it means making total stinkers instead of good movies apparently. Hire no conservatives! Make nothing worthwhile! Parrot the party line Komrade! – Liberal Hollywood deserves to go broke.
I disagree. I liked the movie. The gut-wrenching, heart-stopping climax, in which the G. I. Joe squad apologizes to COBRA, brought tears to my eyes, especially when it sequed into the closing credits with "I'd like to buy the world a Coke . . ." song playing in the background.
This movie was crap, an anti-american, re-enactment of the civil war on a global scale, It is classic Rome (Marc Antony) vs. Egypt (Cleopatra) Manicheanism, only unlike the Dark Knight, Two-Face survives and becomes the President. Philosophy for Dummies now has a sequel and it was penned by Rahm Emmanuel.
"GI Joe has always been a vehicle of unapologetic patriotism. "
No it hasn't. Hasbro rebranded the toy line as an "Adventure Team" (featuring team members from around the world) in the late '60's/early '70's. The slogan "A Real American Hero" didn't come about until the 80's version of the toy.
While yes, it is true that the toy line was originally created to capture patriotic feelings during WWII, to say it's "always been a vehicle for unapologetic patriotism" is blatantly false.
Also – I still find it funny that if something or someone isn't standing on top of a mountain waving the American flag singing the national anthem then it or he/she is automatically anti-American. Stephen Sommers is anti-American because he says "it's an Obama world." GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra is anti-American because it features a multi-national cast of characters.
You people are hilarious.
lol
S. Peelberg is pro-Palestinian…
huh, go figure.
oh yeah that dumbass is canadian i think anyway…
bruce i mean.
And the flag is just cloth, the 4th of July just a summer cookout day,.. or more to your point,
sure it was a sold item, as Santa as we know him was a product of Coke's ad campaign, plastering Santa everywhere. But only the most shallow of thinkers would say his impact on our culture is nothing, cause Coke marketed him early on.
That he's now an American icon of the giving spirit of a holiday devoted to Christ's birth, isn't in dispute. G I Joe, as presented in the 80's very much idealised patriotism as a virtue, clean of whining anticapitolist, anti-American, always blame America first thinkling. It's about us being the good guys,. not NATO, not the UN, but us, the USA.
…and we could bring out a line of GI (Geriatric-Incapacitated) Joe Inaction Figures, maybe even one that talks: "OOWWww! My back! Wait a minute – I have to lie down for a little bit."
this,
"I'm not sure why you write like a propaganda-addicted loser,"
You consider pro US patriotism propaganda?
I take it, enlisting never crossed your mind….. not all can serve, not all are equiped to serve, and not all are damn well fit to serve. I will never fault those who aren't equiped emotionally to serve. The warriors creed, is to fight for the weak, the defenseless,
is that propaganda too joe?
are vets all saps, falling for the propaganda that only you can see?
It's a cartoon, yes, but the virtues it speaks to are real.
nicely written- and done… A hearty Hoohah! friend.
[...] that America has failed – was the reason I didn’t like the film. How depressing. Chris Yogerst from Big Hollywood explains, “GI Joe: An Obamanation” – I couldn’t agree [...]
Me too. No Red, White and Blue . . . no Joe. The suits also ruined it for me. I wanted to see Shipwreck with a parrot on his shoulder and Gung-Ho with a giant Marine tattoo on his chest. etc.
Do you mean "taking" oil in the sense of "buying it with actual money"?
oh boo-hoo. So much complaining and not enough recognition of the basic trend of GI Joe, and society.
How much diversity did the first GI Joe doll represent? Not much. the 60s and 70s versions became bi-racial, okay. Then in the 80's we have a cornicopia of characters from all ethic backgrounds and genders. Considering the costumes of characters such as Dr. Mindbender, it seems we even have divirsity of "life style choice", LOL. If you look at the back of the package for any 80's Joe action figure, you see a veritable "we are the world" melting pot collection.
Hmmm, where does this "PC" trend go from there? Globalism of course. GI Joe, the transnational hero. Effectively merging the spirit of GI Joe and his UN mirror image: "Action Force". And you act surprised?
There is an important precident for this sort of thing, and its been much discussed here at Big Hollywood. The ultimate multi-national force of the future: Star Trek's Federation. There's been much effort here to show how the Federation is American in nature. But there are plenty of future sci-fi scenarios where the United States leads the way into space. Star Trek is technically not one of them. At the height of the cold war in the 1960s, Trek seems pretty progressive to feature ensigns Checkov and Sulu, after all.
And so, boldly into our globally-oriented future (like Trek), goes GI Joe.
LOL. well some had to say it.
"the virtues it speaks to are real."
its true: knowing really is half the battle!
Wow, you're just full of genius in every post you write, aren't you? Seriously, stop calling people names and actually discuss things with us like an adult.
Bonanza, Lorne Greene "Joe, get your gun, we've got work to do."
After seeing this flick, I don't even think a re-edit, a la Star Wars the Phantom Edit, could save this.
Half of the main characters are missing.
The ethic of fighting for what is right is missing.
“this is not a George Bush movie — it’s an Obama world.”
Hmm… a multinational armed force… right, because NATO has worked out so wonderfully.
Duke acted stupidly. Why wouldn't he have blown up the weapons before they could fall into Cobra's hands? Well that would have ended the film way too soon.
Well that's two hours of my life I'm not getting back. By the way, which genius came up with showing commercials before the trailers? I paid money and now I'm a captive audience for them to show me freakin' commercials! And don't get me started on the price of popcorn and soda at the local rip-off theater.
/rant
If anyone needs rescuing, who's military do they want showing up?
The People's Army [China],
Russia
or do they want the American's to show up?
There is a reason why people love America. And I'm not just talking about Americans.
Uh, what was that… "the best of the best from around the world."… ? So, they want to portray diversity in an international military strike force?
Maybe, we should actually first see our European friends lift a finger in the international military scene. If France had actually sent some elite warriors to Afghanistan… or, if Sweden has some some elite warriors into Iraq… or, if a German commando unit had taken responsibility for one of the sectors of Baghdad… maybe then I would swallow the horse-pill that "we're all joining together to fight the bad guys."
What a bunch of crap. I want to see a Hollywood movie that respectfully portrays America's best military personnel… while showing the French commandos sitting at their cafes, complaining that someone put too much nutmeg in their latte. I would pay to see that movie. Do you hear me Hollywood? Stop pretending that you're really interested in Middle-America, unless you're gonna back it up with a real Middle-American movie!
Eagerly awaiting the New Hollywood.
If Hollywood knew anything about our armed forces they would know that most of the special forces of this country are not big beefy guys. I can distinctly remember on huge guy in my unit who went to air assault school and washed out in the first few days. I was set to go to the next class and he was convinced I would never make it, which I did, and I am not a big guy. Of course I had already been through Infantry school and Airborne school so it was an easy course for me to get through. This big guy had of course been through basic training then went to aircraft maintenance school. (I was a Pathfinder, attached to an aviation unit.)
If you saw my brother-in-law, you would never think he was a Green Beret. Hollywood for the most part has what makes a good American Combat soldier completely wrong, but isn’t that what Hollywood is about? Just to be fair they do get it right occasionally.
riddle me this geniuses – for all you wingnuts up in arms that this movie has GI Joe as a multi-national force, what was the last war the US won without help from other countries?
From what I remember, and you can check my memory, GI Joe was US Army. Not a UN peacekeeper who runs at the site of incoming artillery.
From what I remember, and you can check my memory, GI Joe was US Army. Not a UN peacekeeper who runs at the site of incoming artillery. Genius.
The 80's toy line was filled with diversity. Whites, blacks, American Indians, even Cajuns were on the team. There were several international members once the toy line got popular.
No, I haven't seen the movie. But it can't be any worse than some of the cartoons they made of the team.
As for the "All American team" and the flag being missing. Meh, America is much more to me than a piece of fabric and the Federal Government. I have served, spent sweat and blood while wearing the uniform. I notice the columnist graduated from film school and is now working on his master's degree. I wonder if he will put his patriotism where his mouth is and head down to the local recruiter's office to sign up for a hitch in the infantry? Come on Chris, Uncle Sam needs you.
Is this the part where we all pretend the European troops guarding the eating carts and handling the jobs as far from combat as possible are vital the success of the mission?
"All American" can still be people from different backgrounds, but all living in America. You say GI Joe has always been diverse, it has…but they were all American, this film is not.
Yeah, that's what he meant.
Well it worked for Transformers 2.
damn. that's a lot of anger for a movie based on a toy line. try petting your dog or hugging your kids or just listening to some music that makes you happy. anger will take years off you life.
Shhhhh. You're spoiling their righteous anger.
No one's arguing Gi Joe wasn't US Army – the simple point is that almost every US-involved armed conflict in the last 110 years involved multinational forces on both sides. So why is it so 'anti-American' that the GI joe brand reflects this truth? Isn't the whole team run by an American?
This reeks less of anti-americanism and more about people looking for any reason they can to attack obama and the left
Here we go again, blaming the left because the left dominates the entertainment industry. But I don't blame the left – over a period of decades, individual lefties were willing to devote their time, their money, their energies, their entire careers toward creative efforts such as film making.
Conservatives have had equal opportunity to do likewaise. They CHOSE (and are choosing today) to do little or nothing. Conservatives aren't interested in funding films or making films. Conservatives are interested in running their businesses, making sound investments, growing their wealth, and passing it on to their children.
I have been in LA for over two years devoting my life savings and 100-percent of my time and effort toward breaking in. Ironically, the help I have received so far is from LEFTIES. Conservatives could not care less about the arts. And the poor ones do not even want to devote their time and effort – they'd rather BLOG!
This is absolutely horribly written. This guy is in terrible need of an editor, or at least another pair of eyes on his stuff before it's posted. This would rate (content notwithstanding) a C in a freshman comp course. Dude doesn't even know how to use a possessive apostrophe.
Here's an objective viewpoint. The movie sucks because it is nothing likie GI-Joe and has no sense of the patriotism found in GI-Joe. The Director is an idiot, not because he is obviously a left wing nut job, but because he ruined what could have been the best movie EVER!. Just with snake eyes alone you started at A+. Then you used a big black guy who wasn't American named Road Block with a southern accent. Then out of multiculturalism, you couldn't make Duke a blonde and had to find a teenie bopper star (who would have been better as Falcon) and then the actor for Hawk, who can believe he is an American General?
The bottom line is, if you tried to make a connection btwn the director's leftwing agenda and blame that on Obama who wasn't even Democratic nominee during the making of the film, you either know nothing about GI Joe, nothing about movie making, or are a Birther. By the way I agree with ToddM completely.
Way to miss the point, Mark. It's not just about something "missing a flag" or calling something an "Obama world", it's the fact that G.I. Joe is an American hero, an American icon. There were different members of the Joes that had backgrounds from different countries but at the end of they day they were all AMERICAN, just like AMERICA. They contribute their unique cultural aspects to the whole but they're not hung up on being anything but American.
It's upsetting that Hollywood is trying to separate the American nature of these classics from the big-time films. Pay attention next time.
Good point. The left never wastes time on blogs, do they?
We know that American troops are heroes.
Well, I guess someone in Hollywood felt they needed to counter the honor and respect given to American armed forces in the Transformers movies by making this a-national.
I remember GI Joe when I was a kid. Always advertised as "A Real American Hero"
how times have changed…
I think part of the problem is that people take patriotism to some perverse extreme.
love and honor of one's country is one thing.
fantastic militarism is another.
When we send our troops into harms way, it shouldn't be confused with children's toys.
[...] Check out what G.I. Joe director Stephen Sommers was getting at here. What a dope. [...]
Well, it is forcing you to waste your time over here rather than putting on your brownshirt and Sam Browne belt and shilling for the Dali-Bama's enslavement couched in a health-care bill…
Major Payne: "Who's the dummy now…?"
Well, Snarky Marky, it is forcing you to waste your time over here rather than putting on your brownshirt and Sam Browne belt and shilling for the Dali-Bama's enslavement couched in a health-care bill…
Major Payne: "Who's the dummy now…?"
Glenn, I have to say that I am a conservative artist and I invest in the arts where I can. I understand what it means to work at art and try to be successful. It always takes a helping hand from someone.
The French Commandos would have surrendered first. THEN complained about the latte.
The Germans would have stood to in their laager, afraid someone would have started screaming, "Nazis!" if they moved a tank past eight meters…
The Netherlanders would have looked around, shrugged, and took another hit off their drugs…
Spain's troops would have still been at the disco…
The Italians would still be arguing amongst themselves…
The Brits may or may not have been saddled up, depending on who's the PM…
The Canadians would be seeking asylum in the US…
Multinational?
So this is the latest thing to put Republicans' panties in a twist? A movie about a TOY?? And of course, the Obama-hating blogger decided that it's the President's fault that this movie doesn't conform to conservative fantasies about the toy. As someone else pointed out, this movie was filmed in the spring and summer of 2008, before Obama had even been selected as the Democratic Presidential candidate. It had been in the works since 2003, long before Obama had gained national attention. Keep on complaining about trivial things, Republicans—it merely shows the rest of us how low you have sunk.
They do BOTH, wise guy.
The difference between us and them is that we complain and then do NOTHING. I've heard it all a thousand times: Family obligations prevent me from participating. Work obligations prevent me from participating. My broker wants me to maintain my disiplined portfolio. Would $1000 help you?
Meanwhile, wealthy lefties (one quick example, Mark Cuban) throw millions at other lefties and devote their time and influence to help other lefties make films. Conservatives would rather golf in Maui.
Thanks!
I am slowly having to admit that it is the conservative nature to be a tightwad and (at least inwardly) disdain the arts. Conservatives believe it should not be NECESSARY to make movies that influence public opinion. The left understand that it is necessary and powerful. Conservatives feel, deep down, that people can always read books, and if they don't want to do that, to hell with them, they deserve socialism.
I have not given up. I am looking for $5 million to make a new kind of film next year – something that is neither a feature nor a documentary – but (I believe) would be wildly popular and can influence the 2010 elections. Another pitch meeting on Monday -
It's for kids. The special effects are great but the story is for a 10 year old. I guess is it the Obmatization of the US a movie for the stupid.
I still read movies reviews for crap like this even though I already know what they are producing is already about. If I ever see this junk then it will most certainly be on a chinese knock-off DVD. Fun to add injury to insult for the worst 'Americans' alive.
I'm still amazed at how stupid they think we are and how little they think we understand. Too bad. It used to be fun just counting the number of Bush photos they would use in the background linked to some dialogue in the script. Talk about reverse product placement.
Uhh… Check out "The Expendables" on IMDB. I think this could end up being the greatest movie ever made.
Funny, for all of those saying it's only a toy – long before it was a toy, it was a movie (1945: The Story of G.I. Joe) based on columns by Ernie Pyle So no, it's not all about a toy.
Any details, or examples? This completely lacks substance.
Blow me Joe!
a POS made by cowards who have once again co opted gen X without any concept of what its real power is, what really made it popular.
well make your holywould ca$h now selling out American pop icons and culture while you can, to some in washington your industry represents "free" speech and that piece of shit communist and liar would-be pres Barry and his stooges will get around to shutting you down soon.
real American heroes…
enjoy cowards…
"…but rather mid-America, there are a group of people we think are going to respond to the movie who are normally not the first priority. But we’re making them a priority.”
Making the audience a priority? There´s a novel concept! Now that they figured out what to do, it´s only a matter of time until they figure out how to do it.
No, it´s anti-American because they made a conscious decision to distance it from too strong an identification with America – and they said so themselves, smartass.
You're an idiot Seekcap. GI's have always referred to American soldiers. But then anyone can tell you're an idiot because you use that stupid "wingnut" term. But I guess as a leftist you have never served.
OMG what a bunch of retards. I think my IQ just dropped 40 points reading this drivel.
You douche bags need to get out of momma's basement and stop masterbating so much.
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"The slogan "A Real American Hero" didn't come about until the 80's version of the toy."
Ah yes, the patriotic 80's version which, incidentally, is what revived (yes, take note–revived) the GI Joe line.
It also happens to be the source for this movie's ideas. So yes, the filmmakers did subvert the patriotism of their subject. Sorry Mark : (
The characters: Hawk, Duke, Scarlett, Snake Eyes, Ripcord, Destro, Baroness, Storm Shadow, Zartan, etc., the Joe Vs. Cobra storyline, the sci-fi/fantasy elements, the ninja storyline–all are elements of the 80's Real American Hero line. Go back and take a look at GI Joe of the 80's (Reagan's era, mind you) and there is no doubt they indulged American patriotism.
Make no mistake–Sommers chickened out and went the fashionable route. The GI Joe of Joe Vs. Cobra was proud to be American and unashamed of its patriotism, and he altered that for no reason other than to appeal to weak-minded political correctness.
The argument still stands, Mark. Go back to sleep.
This has got to be the worst movie review/analysis of all time. Why does hyperinflated "my country right or wrong" patriotism have to be centtral to a movie, any movie, even the greatest American hero? In case you hadn't noticed, this is the 21st Century, and there are wider audiences to consider. That small but vocal Fox News watching slice of right-wing America that you want this movie to represent would be considered the lunatic fringe in any country other than the US or North Korea.
And speaking logically, it seems that the author took a single reference to Obama and blew it out of all proportion. Demographically, I'd be surprised if this movie wasn't more popular with McCain's supporters than Obama's. You're looking for political meaning where none exists.
It's a well established fact that conservatives give more than liberals do to charity, so you can't call them tightwads, but yes lefties are willing to pour money in order to promote the propaganda their side needs to win, where the right right doesn't because it naively believe the truth will prevail. I am a conservative filmmaker because I know the power the media has over the people of this nation.
Duh. Can't argue with that.
Please. Springsteen never had American pride to speak of. "Born in the USA" was a middle finger to the Reagan Administration in particular and the Red States in general, especially over Viet Nam. When the "mouthbreathers" adopted it, and chose to selectively ignore the irony laced into it, Springsteen must have lost it. Whence his choice to drop it form his repertoire, at least in venues where its irony will be ignored.
Panties in a twist? You must mean the manly liberal fighting man!
heh, indeed. Also.
Try spelling unbelievable correctly to start with you moron. Thanks for letting us know you're borderline MENSA from the beginning. We can now disregard the rest of your post.
Why do egghead liberals want to turn everyone into egghead liberals? I remember getting a couple of pictures (side-by-side) before the election. One was of Obama with his bicycle helmet on mounted on his trusty Schwinn. The other was Sarah Palin on a Harley. This IS the difference between the weenie dolphin-free tuna men of the left and the guys/gals on the right. They won't rest until all of us are crying at sunsets like them. GI Joe seems to have gone that way in the eyes of Hollywood. (Taps playing in the background)
Um…would I be impolite to point out that G.I. Joe isn't based on a real military force? Who's being slandered? I admit that I missed the window for the 80's toys so they never meant much to me, but I never saw them as having the iconic power of Superman or Batman. (what they did to the Superman mythos in Superman Returns was miserable, but only one of many reasons why that movie sucked) From what I saw babysitting neighborhood kids at the time, I always thought G.I. Joe _was_ somewhat international in membership and scope. It's not Shakespeare or the Bible…it's not a crime to change stuff around on a movie based on toys. Despite scathing reviews it's probably going to make it's money back, too. Won't be getting my money, but along with Transformers 2, it probably never was going to. I'm firmly in that counter-programming Julie & Julia audience now. ;-D
I figure if they don't think America is worth celebrating, then they should be willing to depend on other people buying the tickets.
Not a hard decision…given that special effect movies are usually just trite exercises in aural and visual overload.
Chris,
First of all – Thank you for your service to our country.
Secondly – I believe you are making a mistake, dismissing the importance of the flag as "a piece of fabric." It's a symbol, and symbols are powerful.
I haven't seen the movie, but if it really has left out the American flag… Well that's blatantly screaming anti-Americanism. They would have had to do that deliberately, work hard on how to specifically not include the stars and stripes that represent our country.
Now why would they put so much effort towards leaving out the ultimate symbol of America from a movie about the "Real American Hero"? That just stinks of… Something not good.
Kyle – Glad to meet a fellow veteran who is also a conservative filmmaker. I was in the submarine service, nuclear propulsion plant operator. Are you in LA? You can reach me directly at gdamato@fefilmsonline.com
I was born in '57, so I had the original real GI Joe action figures as a kid. Several of them. I had the fatigues and dress uniforms for all US service branches at one point, and even the Mercury space capsule and astronaut suit.
I thought GI Joe jumped the shark back then – really, I specifically remember thinking this – with "lifelike hair." I suppose that should have alerted me to the fact that I possessed the heart of a conservative, but no, I still went through a regrettable leftard "phase" which culminated in casting my first presidential ballot for Jimmy Carter. ~shudder~
Probably needless to say, I have absolutely zero interest in seeing this movie.
There should be no doubt left that liberals hate America and have no problem demolishing everything good that it stands for.
I wouldn't say Antony and Cleopatra is a Manichean showdown. Sparta vs. Persia in 300, now THAT's a Manichean showdown! Of course, I just may be biased against Triumvirates seeing that we have our own of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid!
Just messing, thumbs up to you for dropping the good words.
You can't even blame this travesty on 'an Obama world.' The filming and script had to have been set in stone before the election of Obama.
That the director thought that the election of The Won wasn't even enough of an excuse to even try and cram in some patriotism as an afterthought is an insight into LeftyWood.
A movie only a fat a$$ like Michael Moore on his third bucket of chicken could like along with the other Hate America nit-wits. Love him or hate him at least Bush had an idea who the enemy is.
G.I. Joe is a real American Hero not a part of the has been N.A.T.O. panny waists, this Political Correct crap out of Hollywierd stinks.
How about Lyberty and Tyranny
Actually Iraq isn't even selling us much of their oil are they.
I thought that was the lament a couple years back. Liberals can't make up their mind. Do we want the oil, do we not
So would anything written by Kurt Vonnegut!
Citizen, crimethinker dcase is Emmaneul Goldstein. Oldthinkful crimethink unbellyfeel truth of Minilovewise Miles. Newspeak doupleplusgood
Amen that. GI originally meant "Government Issue", from the US gov't.
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