Remember When SNL Was Funny? (Obama Ushers in New Era of Comedic Irresponsibility)
by Chris StigallEveryone knows the old axiom about comedy. There’s always a grain of truth in that which an audience finds funny. Done well, comedy can make you squirm with its raw honesty. It has the power to inform our perspectives about politics and news just as any good journalist. Comedy helps provide insight into human flaws just as any good psychologist. Often self-deprecating and socially awkward, comedians themselves will deny their impact. Most comedians and writers prefer to think of themselves as lovable class clowns – laughing on the outside, crying on the inside. Just as former NBA star Charles Barkley once famously proclaimed he was no role model, many in the funny business will dismiss their impact in the hearts and minds of their audience.
Modesty, however, cannot dismiss a growing body of evidence that suggests comedians possess greater power than ever before when shaping the national debate. Notably in the last decade, television comedy has amassed an influence in politics to such and extent; nary a high profile politician can ignore its impact and resist the pull to participate. Numerous studies have been conducted through the years analyzing the staggering impact of comedy in the opinions and perceptions of its audience. The power is particularly significant with the country’s attention-short youth.
Since 1977, “Saturday Night Live,” and in more recent years, “The Daily Show with John Stewart” have been a destination for those that like to laugh at pop-culture and politicians. Often the majority audience is not deeply invested in subject matters skewered and lampooned, especially subjects of policy and legislative debate in Washington D.C. Most comedy show audiences probably believe they possess a substantive understanding of the issues of the day. The audiences are largely raucous, passionate, and young. Youthful exuberance is intoxicating for comedians. It feeds the performer in the moment, and leaves the home viewer with the impression the show’s message resonates with the masses.
In truth, the live audience sycophants would cheer like trained seals no matter the content. Being on TV or around those that make TV is just – “cool.” Informed content is not required. Check informed opinion at the studio door. Allegiance to what is “hip” is all that is necessary.
Ever wonder how many in a live studio audience actually watch an evening newscast in lieu of episodes of “Family Guy” and “American Idol?” Many of them see the USA Today banner headlines, top-of-the-fold at their local gas station as they fill their tank and grab an energy drink for the road. Still others hear the latest news of the day on their favorite FM radio station’s sixty-second newscast sandwiched in between a hot phone debate on Octo-mom or Chris Brown and Rhiana. The truth, of course, is it’s a fast paced, multimedia, information culture where there is very little honest information to be found. Keith Olbermann, The Huffington Post, and Daily Kos don’t count, incidentally.
It is that lack of honest information and intolerance for substance that empowers variety and comedy shows to shape national opinion.
Presidential candidates, serious policy thinkers, Wall Street investors, and military giants are all reduced to sketch comedy and six minute interviews to share their message at large. Once left entirely to men like Murrow and Cronkite, John Stewart and Lorne Michaels are now the gatekeepers and disseminators of information and opinion to a large swath of our nation’s population. Information and opinion filtered through their unabashed bias.
Lauded and blamed for the destruction of Sarah Palin’s vice presidential aspirations in 2008, SNL’s Tina Fey impression had an undeniable impact on the way millions of Americans judged the Alaska governor. Comedic lines meant to underscore Fey and company’s narrative of the Governor as an intellectual lightweight rapidly became truth to many voters. “I can see Russia from my house,” was a fictional comedic line delivered by Fey. Fey made no secret in interviews about her private disdain for Palin, and her passionate support of Barack Obama. Sarah Palin’s occasional missteps were artfully employed by a comedian to deliver a big sucker punch in a close election. The dead-ringer impression became a bigger story than the candidate herself. While she never actually claimed a view of Russia from her house, millions of SNL viewers still credit the famous line to Palin anyway.
Recently, Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show” has been mining the nation’s populist anger at Wall Street for his punch lines. Host Jon Stewart had been using his nightly stage to portray CNBC’s “Mad Money” host Jim Cramer as a dishonest ringmaster of financial chaos, encouraging his viewers to make reckless investments based on knee-jerk, irresponsible analysis. Never mind Cramer’s show contains a disclaimer essentially describing it as entrainment, not advice.
This fact did not deter Stewart from playing clips of Cramer’s show, (Cramer contends out of context) to imply his backing of now defunct financial institutions. Want to wager how many in that audience had ever heard of Jim Cramer, his show, or a toxic asset prior to show tape?
A week-long media blitz ensued as Stewart and Cramer shot back and forth through multiple media outlets and their own shows. Cramer finally agreed to appear on Stewart’s show to address the debate head-on. Richard Cohen of the Washington Post summarized the power Stewart seemed to posses during the televised meeting. “…Cramer almost instantly sank into a classic case of Stockholm syndrome, agreeing much of the time with his captor. He came with sleeves rolled up but with the droopy eyes of a chastised puppy.”
Of course there are a number of thoughtful debates concerning our nation’s perilous financial state, but Stewart took the low road. By singling out Cramer, Stewart dishonestly created a villain; an emotional punching bag for him and the largely ignorant mob in-studio. Stewart’s audience cheered like Romans in the Coliseum as Stewart seemed to lay Wall Street’s ruin at the feet of Cramer alone.
It is not simply, though that some of today’s comedians take unfair liberties in what they say and write. Not only is that not new, but who says comedy has to be fair to be funny? Noticeably it is what today’s comedians are not saying and writing that have many who roared at Fey’s Palin impression only politely chuckling at this season’s disconnected comedy.
For those who pay close attention to the news of late it is clear there is an enormous, almost daily crop of low-hanging fruit just ripe for sketch comedy’s harvest. It is not uncommon to watch or read the news of the day and think “this should be on ‘Saturday Night Live’ this weekend.” It seems like a missed opportunity if not painfully dishonest to watch comedy programming and note their inability or unwillingness to score obvious laughs with the country’s most obvious subject – the President of the United States.
Pick your high-profile candidate or president of the last 30 years and Saturday Night Live created a lasting and often crippling parody of their character and leadership flaws. Chevy Chase’s Ford was a bumbling klutz and Dan Aykroyd’s Carter, a smooth and smiling empty suit. Dana Carvey’s elder Bush was stilted with scripted throwaway lines. Phil Hartman’s Regan was gentile on the outside but a calculating power-broker on the inside. Every year, every election they kept them coming.
Bill Clinton was a McDonald’s-starved sex fiend. George W. Bush was a cocky moron led by the cold, sinister Dick Cheney. Remember Ross Perot and his charts, Admiral Stockdale’s loony rants, and Al Gore’s petulant, haughty sighs? Michael Dukakis had bushy eyebrows and a losing attitude. Hillary Clinton was a woman desperate for power at all costs and Joe Biden is a slick-talking, loud, brash, phony everyman with a Cheshire Cat grin. All classic SNL created characters still sold on collector DVDs to this day.
Yet today, the 44th President of the United States has managed to come away from nearly three years of high-profile coverage untouched and unscathed by the show made legend for mocking the most powerful players in the country’s capital. There is a palpable, labored delivery as the cast and writers of “Saturday Night Live” search to find something funny about Barack Obama.
It is obvious the Obama administration is a target-rich environment for big laughs, but the television comedy industry is purposely firing blanks. We have entered an unusually dishonest era of comedy.
As it became clear Barack Obama was going to give the once-presumed unbeatable Hillary Clinton a run for her money in the 2007 Democratic primary, SNL was quick to take note. The obvious bias the show’s creative team would display going forward was immediate to even a casual fan.
Week after week, Obama’s primary fight with Clinton was the focus of the signature opening sketch. As Obama gained traction the characterization of Clinton became increasingly more desperate and needy. Even the press was mocked by the show as being partial to Obama through impressions of Gwen Ifill and Tim Russert. Once each party’s front-runners were nominated, Republican John McCain was quickly cast as wandering and passionless. Of course people are still abuzz about the aforementioned Palin portrayal by Tina Fey. Consistently though, Obama’s SNL alter ego would walk away from every satirical situation unscathed.
Students and fans of television comedy are seeing for the first time in modern history productions devoid of laughs at the expense of the most powerful office in the world. Not only have SNL’s attempts at capturing the essence of Obama fallen flat, the inability of the show’s writers to find any laugh-worthy faults in this administration borders on disturbing.
Clearly attempting to write around this president, we have seen opening sketches of House Republicans debating their latest “obstructionist” strategy. Dan Aykroyd made a guest appearance as House Minority Leader John Boehner. It would be interesting to conduct a focus group in the live studio audience after the show. Their awkward, politely required half-laughs seemed to indicate there were not many who understood what they were watching. When sizable demographics of the population can’t name the Vice President, it seems safe to assume most Americans won’t know House minority leadership.
We’ve seen ridiculous scenes of Senate Republicans being thrown out of the Oval Office window by an Incredible Hulk version of President Obama. Again, show of hands in the audience. How many knew Oklahoma Senator Tom Colburn and Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison? Certainly there have been half-hearted attempts to tweak Democrats like Tim Geithner, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Joe Biden and even Rahm Emmanuel. But in each scene, each sketch, each show, each week – President Obama is portrayed only in various degrees of calm and cool, almost victimized by a sea of buffoonery surrounding him.
In actuality, the Obama administration is a satirical gold mine; a comedy of errors just over two months in the making. There are scores of actual events and instances gone completely ignored by our creative friends in New York’s hallowed halls of comedic television that have been inexplicably, but now predictably ignored.
First Lady Michelle Obama recently confessed to ABC’s Robin Roberts that their weekly Wednesday night cocktail parties in the White House get so wild that furniture has been broken. In the interview, she further admitted to repeatedly warning her guests to tone it down. A high school drama club could write this sketch.
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown recently gifted President Obama a wooden penholder. The wood used for the gift was taken from the timbers of the anti-slave ship HMS Gannett, whose sister ship supplied the wood used to make the Oval Office Resolute desk. The Prime Minister also gave the President a first edition biography of Churchill by Martin Gilbert. These are gifts that can only be described as priceless. What did President Obama give to the Prime Minister in return? A box set of “classic American movies” on DVD.
The DVDs, by the way are not formatted for viewing in Great Britain. This story writes its own comedy.
Underscoring the power of comedy shows, President Obama decided to visit one just last week to tout his economic recovery plan. “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” hosted the President for most of the hour-long broadcast. This was the first time a sitting president visited the set of such a show. During the taping, President Obama made an astounding gaffe that has since been all but forgotten if never mentioned in the case of the New York Times.
When asked about his poor bowling skills President Obama remarked, “It’s like — it was like Special Olympics or something.” Couple this embarrassment with Vice President Joe Biden’s request for a paraplegic at a campaign rally to “stand-up” and be recognized and you’ve got the new Martin and Lewis!
It can only be concluded that ratings and obvious comedic material are being pushed aside in favor of protectionist partisanship.
How about the newest head of the Internal Revenue Service, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner not paying his own taxes? Nothing there? SNL didn’t think so. Multiple Obama cabinet appointees stepping down for unpaid taxes? Not funny either. Nine thousand earmarks in the President’s newly signed budget? He promised a line-by-line scrutiny of wasteful spending only to tell us the day of the signing earmarks were useful? Guess not.
When Jon Stewart excoriated CNBC’s Jim Cramer for “playing games” with financial reporting, the criticism rang hollow. Cramer is no more a serious financial show than Stewart’s a serious showcase for journalism. Stewart is correct in a broader sense. Many in America can agree on the lack of serious, honest reporting on everything from finance and politics to faith and family within the newspapers and networks we used to rely upon. Sadly, shows like Stewart’s and Saturday Night Live are where a growing number of people are turning for opinions and perspective. This grants a tremendous pulpit of influence to these programs. They may not acknowledge it publicly, but privately they are most certainly aware. The uninformed audience is just happy to be along for the show.
Here’s one for the pop-culture set. A quote from the comic book, make that box-office hit Spider-Man: “With great power there comes great responsibility.” Comedians and writers have great power today, but no sense of responsibility. Responsibility is not funny, nor does comedy require it.
Comedians are clowns and modern day court-jesters, not journalists. They write punch lines not bylines. They frame the debate and craft the joke as they see their world a world based exclusively in New York City and Los Angeles, by the way. It doesn’t have to be “fair and balanced” because there is no such thing as ethics in comedy. Indeed, comedy doesn’t have to be fair, or accurate, or responsible. Individuals must be the judges of those things on their own. But if comedians and writers expect us to collectively laugh at their work they must be honest with their audience once again. That applies to this president and what is funny about him, too.
The truth about the Obama administration is that there is a lot to laugh about right now. Perhaps there is a fear of implied racism or a lingering respect for the historic nature of the last election, or simple blind devotion to a man today’s comedy writers have invested in both financially and emotionally. But for millions of Americans who did not vote for Barack Obama, and still millions more who see the daily folly of an administration full of missteps is to ignore truth. Comedy without that grain of truth just isn’t funny.









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This was an excellent post. I totally agree that there is a strange lack of recognition among comedy writers and the onstage performers that Obama is a gold mine of comedy. Perhaps what they see happening frightens them too much to be able to make jokes about it. Surely some of them have realized that Obama is human by now and that he may not be the Messiah they were expecting. How do you joke about that? They can't, so they struggle to make a living by making comedy sketches about their tried and true past victims. I personally would love to see some good Obama sketches. Maybe that is why I enjoy the blog by Obama's teleprompter so much!
What kind of fool would lampoon his or her own beliefs and heroes? It's insane to expect the MSM and its comedians to poke fun of anything on the left including Obama, Global Warming, etc.
We need to illuminate their nonsense through humor, because they sure as hell won't!
It's too bad they don't play those old SNL episodes, particularly the ones from the late 80s and early 90s when the show was at it's absolute best, it seemed like it was funny every week for a few years even though I'm sure it had it's down episodes.
Politically, it wasn't as bad back then. I truly believe there were people in some parts of the 'enteraintment as news' industry that wasn't sad that the Iraq War went bad. After 9/11 you could tell they didn't know what to do and a few didn't know if they were sad or not. It's such a messed up world where they have to think to see if they were sad if a bunch of people died because most of them were in our country and not others. I believe that ist true and it's why I don't see a great future for politically based comedy.
I like Tina Fey, period. 30 Rock is a hilarious show. Playing devil's advocate for a moment, I think if you ask some of these people what it feels like to wield the power, many of them would probably ask, "What power? I'm just trying to make people laugh."
I've studied improv and I plan on continuing my training in LA later this year and, you know what? I don't want the power. I don't want to be known as some cultural arbiter who can decide elections. I'm sure political bias plays a huge role (and as an independent, it's my job to go after both sides) but I think you risk ascribing to these shows too much influence. (Although I do agree in part re: the influence of The Daily Show.)
Fey's impression might have ruined Palin's campaign (it didn't help but I'm not qualified to speculate on what did and did not work) but only to the extent that the media – the same people who use the slogan "Saturday Night Dead" – was talking about it.
But I think we can all agree on one thing – SNL just isn't that good anymore. Even if they piled on Obama this weekend, there's still no guarantee it would be funny. And I say that as an SNL fan.
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Good post. If you hear of any comedians that are actually tackling these gems let me know. I am not creative enough to make my own satire, but I can sure appreciate really good stuff. The stuff you lined out (and Obama's 60 minutes interview – genuine comedy if it weren't so scary) is so obviously available for clever and whitty satire. But alas, the herd of cows known as SNL will only graze in one pasture.
I recently saw Andy Kindler on Letterman's show and he—sort of—addressed this issue.
(I'm paraphrasing)
"People wonder why were not making fun of the President? Okay, he's a brilliant, charismatic man with a wonderful wife and two precious daughters. That's comedy gold, right there! What is there to make fun of?"
Do you think this is typical of comedians? That there is no conscious decision not to poke fun at Obama, but there is an actual blindness to his foibles?
[Afterthought: which would be preferable?]
It's not what they're seeing that frightens them, Lynn — it's the fear that their left-leaning audience will turn against them wholesale if they cross the line. Comedians didn't use to be afraid of such hostility; guys from Milton Berle to Bill Hicks had their ways of dealing with it — Hicks in particular managed to shine brightest when he was pissing off half of his audience. Now they scamper around the situation like frightened rats, trying to avoid it at all costs.
Ah yes, Saturday Night Lame. Part of what makes Mad TV look so funny.
I'm not sure how much race plays into it. Didn't they skewer Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton a few times? Granted those two save the writers lots of work, but still…
Short of boycotting anyone that advertises on the show, or at least sending nasty letters to the companies, not much to do. Oh well, it's not like they haven't gone 4 or even 8 years at a stretch without any real humor before.
I think you hit the nail on the head on that one.
So much for "speaking truth to power."
"People wonder why we're not making fun of the President? Okay, he's a brilliant, charismatic man with a wonderful wife and two precious daughters. That's comedy gold, right there! What is there to make fun of?"
Huh? Kindler doesn't personally know the Obamas. He can say Obama is "brilliant" (I've known brilliant people; some brilliant people have been friends of mine and Obama…) as for "charismatic," he does nothing for either of my legs.
Obama is one of the fastest self-destructing pudding cups I've ever seen. The fruit of this humor isn't just low-hanging, it's piles just rotting under foot.
I've listed the comedic fodder for this administration entirely too many times. All one has to do is make fun of these guys once and then make fun of the eminent responses to the insults. Rinse and repeat.
All of this proves only one thing: that the left has no sense of humor. Never has, really- just snarky comments about who they diasgree with, or worse loathe (poor 'W') so when left with the secular messiah they are, as Mike Myer's
Linda Richman would say 'verklempt'…
All of this proves only one thing: that the left has no sense of humor. Never has, really- just snarky comments about who they diasgree with, or worse loathe (poor 'W') so when left with the secular messiah they are, as Mike Myer's
Linda Richman would say 'verklempt'…
Jon Stewart isn't a comedian… he is a political player who hides behind comedy in order to escape responsibility. (That was the gist of an article I read somewhere recently.) The man DOES have an agenda, and in spite of all his protests to his viewers not to get their news from him, he knows they won't listen, and he knows what he's doing.
As to the last post… George W. Bush was a brilliant, charismatic man with a wonderful wife and two precious daughters… but he didn't talk pretty. (And his politics is of the wrong brand.) Again, SNL knows what they are doing. The gift to Gordon Brown? That can be incorporated in every sketch… he starts out by giving a guest some stupid gift, like a pez despenser. The teleprompter? There is always one over the shoulder of the person he's talking to. Or better yet, the paddle substitutes for the actor. The broken furniture at the parties? Too easy. Tim Geithner, et al? Kim Jong Il nominated for homeland security, Tommy Chong for drug czar, Britney Spears heads the women and girls conference. What about his comment about the US being the nation to invent the automobile? (He gets a lot of history wrong.) The writers are either profoundly ignorant and don't know anything about these things… or they know they cannot harm his image. His image is everything. Tear it down, and what is left?
(To those that might have a problem with the above description of Bush… Keep in mind that no one gets to that level without being way above average.)
I've been watching (or rather, not watching, for last few years anyway) SNL, Stewart, and Maher since they first started. That would be over thirty years. All were hilarious and incisive in their first decade or two. Now, they come across as left-wing haters. I stopped watching SNL when the Will Ferrel stuff started getting nasty and stupid. Still and all, Maher and Stewart DO make some comments with which I agree from time to time. More likely is the case that left-wing furor, fueled by the Democratic party's desire to win this last election, was big money. Pandering to it cranked up the revenue flow…continued…
… I think, though, that as of today (or as of last night's brilliant performance by President Obama at his prime-time press conference) the Obama honeymoon is over. We have all, press included, turned a corner on this administration and the gloves are coming off all over town. There is just too much money to made making people laugh by using Obama gaffes as the basis for skits and one-liners. Just wait…once Leno and the late-nighters realize that Obama doesn't walk on water and never will, and cannot shoot lightning bolts from his fingertips, they'll jump on the bandwagon and give Barack the roasting he so richly deserves.
their tiny punkin brains would implode just having to consider a joke about barry. you don't joke about he who saves.
JFK was a brilliant, charismatic man with a beautiful wife and two precious children and yet … The First Family comedy album was the fastest selling record in the US when it was released. I think Andy Kindler needs to think up a different excuse for the pandering, dishonest treatment Obama is getting from the entertainment industry.
John Q… I hope you are right, but I have my doubts. The behavior of the press in 2008 was unheard of, and when the economy begins 'recovery', it will happen all over again. I think they will hold the line indefinitely.
Obama's polical philosophy resonates with the producer and head writers of SNL. The last thing they want is to upset the applecart by making fun of their chosen one. He is off limits not by any rule within SNL but by the common sense that if they make fun of Obama – too much, the Ozombies they entertain will see the emperor without his clothes on. With that the socialist utopia will be but a dream again.
Yes, I certainly think that part of the motivation are those half-laughs or applause lines. The jokes aren't funny, but we know that we're supposed to be laughing, like in a melodrama when the curly-mustachioed villain comes on stage and we all know to boo.
I think it's something else, however. I think they know Obama has a glass jaw, both personally and politically. His support is perched on a house of cards. If they are moderately hard on him, his popularity collapses. They know that his haughty, pompous bubble will burst with the smallest pinprick.
They are also treating him like a sensitive little boy. It's clear Obama has no sense of humor, especially about himself. It's almost as if they're afraid that making fun of him will cause him to cry.
It's a perfect opportunity for an edgy new show to fill the gap that SNL and the other shows refuse to fill. Where are the risk-takers? We've got a walking talking gaffe machine for a president, a former ballerina chief of staff who's one step away from constant road rage, a press secretary that looks like Barney, and SNL can't find anything funny to say about this administration?? It's comedic gold for the taking. Oy.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
It's a specific type of humor that the left lacks—self-deprecation. It's not just that they're incapable of making jokes about themselves, but the entire concept seems alien to them. I've seen it time and time again—someone makes a joke at his own expense and leftists pile on the abuse, treating a joke as a confession.
A perfect example occurred over at John Nolte's old blog, Dirty Harry's Place. He put up a tongue-in-cheek description of himself as a loser, and the leftists apparently didn't see the humor.
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9726.html
The left sees humor only as a weapon. For some reason, they seem to value mirthless laughter over joy.
Wow, Stigall, my favorite morning talk show guy, nice column.
I've been kind of hoping that South Park might get the ball rolling with their swipe the other night. When they don't go up in flames, maybe some othe folks will follow suit. It's decidedly creepy the way these people ignore good material right under their noses. You'd think they'd have their own careers to think of.
Al Franken was never funny "when Saturday Night Live was funny". And he still isn't. Just sayin'.
The fact that he can't speak without a teleprompter would make a huge comedy skit so easy that it would almost be
unfair. I would like to add my single attempt at humor in Mr Obama's case.
Do you know the difference between Jesus and Obama.
Jesus was a carpenter and Obama can't even build a cabinet…..
apologies ahead of time….
thats the best I got….LOL
Nicely done and well reasoned. When politics are your religion one cannot tolerate anything but absolute fealty; this is what the Obambots want and get. Mr Bush was, and is, ten times the man this guy pretends to be and could take a joke. However he has a deity, and it isn't himself…
See how easy that is?
Nice one TBM. That one is going to my union-member, Democratic party lovin' Dad. And I'll eat my shoe if he doesn't respond with an insult against W.
With the lefties in the government and the media salivating to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and this Administration's proven intolerance to dissenting voices ("I won! Get over it"), I wonder if those with the talent to create good humor at the expense of the President are conciously withholding because they understand the retribution they would suffer if the First Amendment continues to be eroded under this Administration and Congress. Surely there are some out there willing to skewer their party for a good (truthful) laugh in the mold of Will Rogers.
Amen to that.
Obama would spend $100 million of our tax dollars to have one cabinet made. Then his slackjawed sycophants would squeal, "see, he's just like Jesus!"
Thanks for writing and publishing what we've all been thinking and talking about. I think, overall, the reason for a lack of comedic commentary by the late-nighters is a combination of hypocrisy (they really aren't "funny guys just commenting on what's funny"), fear (of what their fellow left-winger friends and acquaintances would think), and one can't rule out an overall spiritual (evil) "cloud" in America (that got BO elected in the first place) that has given him a pass worldwide despite the obvious many-tiered hollowness–he's either the Antichrist or the prototype of him.
About twenty years ago the Catholic Church condemned SNL. I couldn't have agreed more. It's an awful show.
Dude! You must be really old!
this clown is a virtual cornucopia of comedy from his dumbo ears to his suave sophicated self absorbed persona..let the jokes begin…
So, a man seen almost universally as a intellectually incurious buffoon with a deeply corrupt administration who could barely construct a decent sentence leaves office and is replaced by another man who even his enemies (well, the reasonable ones) admit is something unusually intelligent and honest, and there are fewer jokes about him — and clearly, that's all because those damned liberals can't make fun of their own. I get it. We all know liberal comedians never made a single joke about Bill Clinton.
Woops. I forgot for a second that the Chris Stigall acknowledged that the jokes about Clinton were once rife, so my ending piece of snark there doesn't apply. My bad.
I should add, however, that it's completely absurd to say that SNL tilted toward Obama throughout the primaries. In fact, the Tina Fey "Bitch is the new black" episode stirred up a bit of a ruckus in what was widely seen as a pro-Clinton tilt, including a sketch attacking the press for being overly fawning toward Obama. I should think Big Hollywoodites would eat that stuff up.
BTW — the DVD box gift-giving fiasco was made fun of by Jon Stewart, quite humorously. Of course, that was the kind of fiasco we get with Obama, inept gifting. With Bush our fiasco involved unnecessary wars, that were then handled in the most incompetent manner possible, resulting in hundreds of thousands of needless deaths, or allowing an entire city to drown because you appointed a political flunkie to be the head of FEMA. A whole different level of fiasco, don't you think? Again, what a mystery that comedians seemed to pick on poor George more than they do on Barack — though, I guarantee if he screws up in a major way, comedians won't hold back, I promise you.
=== So, a man seen almost universally as a intellectually incurious buffoon====
The only place he was universally seen that way was in the cesspit of liberal news rooms and in the classrooms of militant feminists and homosexuals. Bush had a better GPA than Kerry or Gore and was a voracious reader. I bet many of those with buyer’s remorse over obama would gladly take a third term of Bush now.
Intellectually incurious? I guess YOU went to TWO Ivy League schools instead of just the one.
Deeply corrupt? I guess his predecessor, a serial molester (some say rapist), embezzler, perjuror, only sitting president ever disbarred; and his successor, a radical socialist, black liberation theology adherent, domestic terrorist buddy, outright lying elitist; don't really strike you as corrupt.
Could barely construct a decent sentence? I guess your entire view of the man was shaped by gotcha clips from exactly the type of show we're discussing here.
Unusually intelligent? Sure. It's a sign of brilliance to insult special needs kids on national TV.
Honest? The guy has already broken most of his promises during the campaign.
Keep fellating your Dear Leader.
Come to think of it, THAT would be a hilarious sketch also: a meeting in the Oval Office, and various members of the media and John Stewart et al keep interrupting to climb out from underneath his desk, wiping their lips and gulping Tic Tacs.
==== with a deeply corrupt administration===
You poor delusional fool. The level of corruption in Bush’s admin was childsplay compared to the corruption within congress, obama’s admin and obama himself. As far as Clinton here are some of his impressive achievements……..
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- Second president accused of rape**
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
Sour grapes. Yeah, the gloves are coming off all over town — inside the beltway. The rest of us are in good hands. There is a comedian whose skin color matches the president doing a pretty good impression… can't remember his name, because I don't watch much TV. Maybe the melanin-deficient comedians don't think they can do the job. But I haven't watched SNL since the original cast left the show. It should have died with them. I haven't found anything funny about it since. (Also, Al Franken had a job doing what he was good at, which is not being a U.S. senator). Seriously folks, this is COMEDY we are talking about! Getting paranoid about the comedians' choice of script material is way beyond absurd. Isn't Rush Limbaugh funny anymore? Doesn't the Miniscule Right-Wing Kaffee Klatsch having anything better to talk about?
A little more on the Clintonista admin……
CRIME STATS
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS WERE OBTAINED
Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.
http://www.prorev.com/legacy.htm
I suspect obama's admin will break most of these records.
Since both the news media and the comedians elevated a mere mortal, Obama, to the stature of "The Messiah," none of them want to admit they were wrong and that the "Great One" now is beginning to show his crumbling foundation.
President George W. Bush was seen not "universally as an intellectually incurious buffoon" but slandered as such by liberal / progressive / socialist democrats using the scorched earth product of the Clinton's own crafted "Politics of Personal Destruction."
Sour grapes? The past 8 years was nothing bitter or anything. No it's not comedy. These people have started to inhale their own BS and really think they have a vital voice to say who leads the country, then when they get called out for it they whine their only doing comedy. Sorry if you want to influence an election you don't get a free pass. Plus if you think this all about nothing why are you here?
Even I could have written something comedic about the re-start button. Good grief, and Clinton said her lackeys really 'tried hard' to get the translation correct? NOT!!! Gee, I would have been fired for that lame "try". And how about the O's incessant stuttering through his non-telepromptered speeches – or even thanking himself because of the wrong speech on the t-prompter. Man – what a load of missed opportunities. I would like to see it as comedy on SNL because seeing it in person is fairly painful.
I'm going to assume that most comedians and comedy writers agree with you, Bob.
Which makes it even stranger that they would find "hundreds of thousands of needless deaths" inherently more funny than a guy who can't enter a helicopter without clunking his head.
That's kind of a warped sense of humor you got, but I guess it takes all kinds…
"So, a man seen almost universally as a intellectually incurious buffoon with a deeply corrupt administration who could barely construct a decent sentence leaves office"
That's a nice summary of the first 60+ days so far.
And being "unusally" intelligent and honest (HA!) doesn't excuse the fact that he has many situations that are made for good slapstick comedy.
Finally, if you look at the Clinton jokes few were based on what he did (certainly before Monica-gate). They made fun of him being fat, Southern, and having an ice-queen for a wife. He wasn't "one of them" and he got treated as such. And he was never elevated to the level of Messiah.
The restart button is comedy gold. When I first heard the story, I thought they just went to Staples and picked one off the shelf. It turns out that would have been the better thing to do
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. The Leftists use it well to advance their agenda. Time for fighting fire with fire. Those of us who appreciate political satire but are disgusted with the political propaganda of a Leftist agenda hunger for something we will watch. Time for the Left to feel the sting of biting ridicule; there is so much to ridicule and an audience to gain.
Oh, yes, those classrooms of militant feminists and homosexuals (not so militant). Those places. You realize you're completely insane, don't you — and apparently obsessed with sex as well.
Also, you might want to take a look at Obama's approval ratings, dude. They're well above the margin he won by in the election, so, not much buyer's remorse yet.
"allowing an entire city to drown because you appointed a political flunkie to be the head of FEMA"
Ugh, can't let this go. First it was the mayor and governor that let the city "drown" if you choose to believe that. Second, despite what you may have seen from the MSM, it was in fact the quickest deployment of FEMA response teams and National Guard ships in history. And finally, all those deaths in the Superdome, psst. they didn't happen and were made up by your friends in the press. Were there things that could have gone better, sure there always are in large scale unpredictable situations like this. However, like every story, the MSM found their hook and drove it into the ground whether the facts supported it or not. Remember the first rule of fascism, tell a lie often enough and it doesn't matter what the truth is because people will believe the lie. Congrats, you told the lie and the American people bought it.
Just keep telling yourself that, if it works for you. Whatever gets you through the night.
Yes, I really am a liberal!
I have some basics of a good joke.
1) Sandy Burger, prez notes in pants. 2004
2) William Jefferson, $90K in freezer, 2005
3) Sen Reid, surge is failure, 2006
4) Dems take over congress, 1st issues: raise pay for legistlators, raise minimum wage, Jan 2007 (Dow 14000)
5) Joe Biden, Obama, Joe Biden – 2008
6) Obama: puppy for kids was just campaign promise! 2009
When did Obama release his academic records? You actually used the word HONEST as an adjective for the current President!?!? What a wonderful idea for a satiric skit; the man is the master of double-speak. It is important to listen to what he says and then pay attention to what is done…..BIG DISCONNECT! Just because he said it and said it and said it, it does not make it true.
The President you intellectually dismiss did not need his teleprompter 24/7. He actually conducted REAL press conferences without a teleprompter or giant screen TV and held his own. He also knew, as most children do that there are 50 states.
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. The Leftists use it well to advance their agenda. Time for fighting fire with fire. Those of us who appreciate political satire but are disgusted with the political propaganda of a Leftist agenda hunger for something we will watch. Time for the Left to feel the sting of biting ridicule; there is so much to ridicule and an audience to gain.
This is like post 9-11 when the country was afraid to laugh again, for months. Perhaps everyone realized what the hell just happened and we are collectively terrified right now at the reality that Obama is our President.
Riiiight, so universally respected by other world leaders that the Swedish have chided him, the Mexicans have chided him, the Chinese are worried about his profligate spending and have chided him, the Russians have chided him … the only guy who has had anything nice to say about him was Hugo Chavez who called him to embrace socialism, but even he retracted that statement earlier this week calling Obama someone who "needs to read some more" or something to that effect.
At any rate, when the Communists are telling you that you've gone over the edge …
Riiiight, so universally respected by other world leaders that the Swedish have chided him, the Mexicans have chided him, the Chinese are worried about his profligate spending and have chided him, the Russians have chided him … the only guy who has had anything nice to say about him was Hugo Chavez who called him to embrace socialism, but even he retracted that statement earlier this week calling Obama someone who "needs to read some more" or something to that effect.
At any rate, when the Communists are telling you that you've gone over the edge …
And your guy had the heat cranked up to 82 despite telling us that we couldn't do the same … this was while people were literally freezing to death in Kentucky after an ice storm. Where was FEMA and why didn't Obama fly out to survey that disaster? I guess he did allow FEMA to send out salmonella-tainted peanut butter.
I still think there would be a pretty good comedy sketch in Obama flying around using his ears ala Sally Fields as the Flying Nun only he's the Flying Community Organizer.
Here's a new low for the Onion. Obama not funny, dead troops a laugh riot:
<a title="The White-Face Comedy of the United Slaves of Obama @ AMERICAN DIGEST " href="http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/enemies_foreign_domestic/the_staff_of_th.php">The White-Face Comedy of the United Slaves of Obama @ AMERICAN DIGEST
Let's try that item about the Onion again with just the url — The White Face Comedy of the United Slaves of Obama @
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/enemies_for...
I don't have time to respond to all of you anymore, but I want to thank you all for showing me that people…really…believe…this…stuff. Like apparently Obama has a teleprompter on during press conferences and Brownie really did do a heckuva job — even if he had to be updated on things that were happening in NOLA by Ted Koppel on live TV. Whatever you guys are smoking that makes you actually believe the horse poo Sean Hannity and Mark Levin throw at you, it must be potent indeed.
Amazing. Truly.
P.S. My teleprompter told me to say this.
According to the lefties, "speaking truth to power" now means talking to themselves.
You have the Alinsky rulebook down pat. It's hard to take a man seriously when you're laughing at him. At least Obama sorta gets it. He spent a few minutes the other night laughing at himself (although I doubt he was aware of it himself). Until somebody stopped him. Next day, Mr. Dead Serious.
It's a conscious decision because they're blind to his foibles.
Dwight Eisenhower and George W. Bush became tongue-tied when making public speeches. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama both make wonderful speeches. Eisenhower masterminded the plan that ended the war in Europe and brought an unprecedented era of peace and growth. Bush faced a new and amorphous enemy, and fought a war against the mass murderers while keeping us safe at home. Clinton talked while Africa and Eastern Europe bled, and let the mastermind of the 9-11 attack slip away. Obama is preparing a beautiful speech of surrender while turning American into the Soviet Union Lite. Maybe I'm stupid, but I'll take the doers over the talkers every time.
That is the serious side. The truth of the matter is all four were and are excellent fodder for humor. Only Obama seems to get a pass. I fear that the comedians and comedy writers feel comfortable poking fun at politicians, but can't bring themselves to mock a messiah.
"So, a man seen almost universally as a intellectually incurious buffoon with a deeply corrupt administration who could barely construct a decent sentence leaves office and is replaced by another man who even his enemies (well, the reasonable ones) admit is something unusually intelligent and honest, "
You mean when Reagan replaced Carter…
Q: Why won't Obama laugh at himself?
A: Because it would be racist.
Re: SNL-
White guilt prevents liberals from laughing at the man.
The gloves are off and the 47 percent will not be pushed around by the 53 percent. Your sacred cow WILL be skewered for four years. Deal with it.
I agree, John Q. I'm beginning to see it now and then, just little things — testing the water, maybe — but definitely there. I think by mid-May it will be full scale.
Just keep telling yourself that, if it works for you. Whatever gets you through the night.
No, I think you have that technique cornered.
Some are terrified. Some are too stupid to realize it.
FTA : "When sizable demographics of the population can’t name the Vice President, it seems safe to assume most Americans won’t know House minority leadership."
Sounds about right. Ladies and Gentelmen, I give you the real retards.
This is what I find utterly mind blowing. Who can give me concrete examples of this supposed brilliance? Oh sure, to the narcissist, he is charismatic. That is why he was hand picked by Kahlidi/Ayers/Dorn ….et al, to be the standard bearer. One published paper, no transcripts, no one remembers him in classes at Columbia, at Occidental. I really do not find Obamapromter very charismatic either. A condescending @#^&, maybe.
I think there are a great many people who fear Obamaprompter is going down in flames. Not yet, of course, and his personal approval ratings will stubbornly stay somewhat high before they eventually drop. A great many libs bet their entire concept on him and they are very nervous. A politician can hide himself in the senate. When you are in the lead, there is nowhere to hide.
I used to giggle at Ferrel's Bush once but, it did get old fast. SNL is unwatchable. Almost everyting falls flat. I never watch Stewart much less Maher.
the market had a chance to recover on it's own but given the undercutting of fundementals with all the spending, I just don't think it will very soon. The inflationary pressures are going to slow expansion and increase unemployment. States are creeping above 10 and moving toward 15-18% unemployment. The deficits are going to be murder. We are very close to depression. Higher taxes would rapidly reach a point of diminishing returns. Manufacturing would be the economic underpinning to get us out of this but,……..we don't manufacture that much anymore. The money eventually runs out.
Let's see…….shall we count the overworked and disingenuous BDS talking points here? One. Two…………….
Well,…. prove him wrong. List items to counter those statements. Otherwise, they must be accepted as fact. Don't just take shots, show us poor dumb conservative types how superior the liberal intellect is.
Dude, Bob… the guy sent a letter to the french president and he sent it to the wrong one! Come on. There's comedy gold here but your brave comedian buddies refuse to go after them.
Why is it that every time any criticism of Obama comes up, the libtards have to bring up Bush? He's gone, so get over it.
You know this article is right. Keep telling yourself that, and maybe someday you'll believe it.
And please, you're too poor to own a teleprompter. Unless you're one of the millions of morons who buy crap with credit cards they have no business in using.
"BDS"? Try "ODS"….No, try simple derangement.
(I know I said I wasn't coming back, but you guys are making it too easy.)
Arthur Jensen: "….And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that . . . perfect world . . . in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel. "
Howard Beale: "Why me?"
Arthur Jensen: "Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday."
Seconding the poster who said Jon Stewart is an upside-down bizarro, knowing, Howard Beale.
SNL, shit. Where are today's Paddy Chayefskys and Marshall McLuhans?
Perhaps they are going easy on him not so much in support – as much as a worrying little tingle of fear in the back of their minds. The reeducation camps may take comedians too.
Bob, we're talking about comedy writing here. And give Obama time! If he's too tired to get the simple stuff right, he may do something dangerously incompetent soon enough.
And about New Orleans… I'm tired of hearing this, having been there several times, and knowing during each visit that if anything ever happened to the levies, to get my ass out of town. FEMA doesn't do cleanup. It doesn't do evacuation. It doesn't do construction, transportation… it doesn't do anything. It writes checks. Period. End of story. New Orleans always made the same preparations for close call hurricanes for decades… order 10 to 20 thousand body bags. That's it. That's what the city would do. Because it is corrupt. It is PROFOUNDLY corrupt, and when a corrupt city floods, this is what happens. During any disaster response, Washington is the LAST, not the first, the last level of government to get involved.
Make no mistake, had Gore or Kerry been president at the time, the story would have been the miracle that so few people had died. I am so sick of this Katrina BS I can hardly stand myself.
Good article. The simplest explanation is usually the best, and that is that 'comics' of either stripe don't like to make fun of the persons they voted themselves for. With Obama and the rest of Barackistan HQ blacklisting and worse journalists and papers that at least tried to be professional, it's not hard to imagine people keeping shut – and trying to remain part of the 'incrowd' (the celebrity-pledge and Organising for America-Pledge would have been spoofed otherwise;'why is Obama's plan good?Because I pledged myself to Obama and so should you' WTH?)
And now for something completely different:
Notre Dame is planning to award BOzo an honorary doctorate for his ‘exemplary moral service’, which is, to put it mildly, rather misplaced (and hilarious by itself, the guy weaseled out of national service in the 70''s) even if we leave out the life-issues. That it is a doctorate in Law makes it even worse/funnier (eg Rezko, auntie, campaign contributions anyone?).
More on this (I like Ralph McInerny’s – writer of Father Dowling Mysteries – beginning the best) can be found at
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTBlNmY2NzM4...
There’s a petition on http://www.notredamescandal.com/ . Personally I’ll sign any petition against BOzo, numbers mean all, esp. in a mediacrocy like we have in the West (and yes, I do complain about honoray docterates in general, too
Obama Bought The Presidency
I quit watching SNL because it became painfully clear they couldn't 'go there' to have equal fun with Obama…they can slam everyone and everything..and have…until now. It's not fun anymore knowing they hold some kind of allegiance to him. Comedy is supposed to be raw and un-nerving. Haven't watched a single show since last November.
I personally don't like political humor at all. I think it shows a lack of imagination if a comedian can't come up with original material. Plus it is always biased toward the left, when was the last time a comedian made fun of a Democrat. I guess when Washington starts limiting executive pay to $500,000 and that hits directors, producers and heads of studios, then maybe they'll start hitting them harder.
Lewis Black is about the only political satirist that gets it right.
Why would SNL make fun of Barack Obama when they spent so much time getting him elected?
Netherlands, the worst thing about a lawyer is most think their job is to find ways AROUND the constitution, not work with it. To that end, Obama is a raging success!!! Thanks for the links.
I wondered that too. I used to wonder if they'd get hit with a giant clue-bat when they were skewering Paling to enermous ratings. You'd think it would go on in their heads that having McCain and Palin elected would be a definite meal ticket for the next four years. Apparently not.
Good point regarding McCain-Palin being a definite meal ticket for the next four years. Problem was, maybe McCain-Palin would have made a go of it, and they couldn't take that chance.
There's something in the Lefty handbook which prevents Lefties from skewering their own kind. If they do, it's always done with kid gloves and/or affection. ("Look, isn't that cute?")
You're welcome. For all things BOzo I can wholeheartedly recommend The Real Barack Obama blog at Wordpress, the factfinding is often staggering. And it's written by (as far as I know) a (now former) Democrat from Chicago who's just sick and tired of all the corruption and crookery surrounding BOzo so the whole 'right-wing nutcase'-shtick Obots like to throw around doesn't work.
It's Possible that Obama still could turn into one more Sat Night Live character. But I expect things would have to get much worse. The Initial moves he's making could have already provided enough material for a dozen skits. But it's hands off the Wonder Boy, our first black President, and one Real-life slick Leftist who managed to ride his color to power during a time of converging crises.
Comedians end up following the mood of the Public to a large extent. Jon Stewart is No different. He plays to His crowd, which is a relatively small finite group. He's successful within his niche. I used to watch him the first several years, but I like balance in Comedy as well as politics, and he violates both. TV these days offers a wide array of liberal dronings and smug looks. it bores the heck out of me.
Lawhawk shoots- and he scores!
I'll take the doers over the talkers every time.
I'm from a family of quiet men. I married a quiet man and gave birth to and raised a quiet man. They are all doers. When they talk, people listen because they know the words of these quiet men are generally worth hearing. I've learned that many men who are "talkers" are con men. They seem to be hiding something and often can't be trusted.
I'd be ruthless. Hey, the Bush Twins weren't off limits. How about we throw those "precious girls" into the spotlight. They're dressed up as those spooky twins from "The Shining". Maybe have them pursuing a lingerie-clad Barney Frank as he rides a tricycle through his house (practicing for a PRIDE parade), chanting to him "Barney, come and play with us in our vegetable garden, FOREVER, and EVER….."
WOW…sounds like somebody has vengence on SNL for getting the imitation of Sarah Palin dead on. Come on, Chris, Palin was a light-weight politician and should never have been chosen to run for Vice President. You really think Tina Fey's impersonation made McCain/Palin lose??? How about this- people were tired of the right-wing Republicans running the country in a downward spin with their mightier than thou religious attitude and ignorances.
Katya, you reminded me of something. Calvin Coolidge was no doubt one of our most underappreciated Presidents. He hated public speaking, and almost never held press conferences, thus earning him the nickname "Silent Cal." Will Rogers still found a way to make that funny: "Old Silent Cal. He don't say much. But when he says something—-he don't say much."
Yeah, you say that now. But how many three-pointers do you think I can make when I take him on on the White House court? Maybe intimidation will work. I'll leave my hoody on during the game (that's my sweatshirt, lest anybody think I had something else in mind). Better yet, I'll one-up him before the game by feeding the whole crowd with two fishes and a single loaf of bread. Eat that, Obie!
actually that was a Dale Tallon call on a Chicago Blackhawk goal- however, one supposes you could best “The One' at a game of floor hockey as well…
actually that was a Dale Tallon call on a Chicago Blackhawk goal- however, one supposes you could best “The One' at a game of floor hockey as well…
Well said whether Obama makes those same kind of mistakes. Something tells me, they won't be of the same earthshattering order. But perhaps I'm biased towards people who actually think about stuff.
But You make no mistake — had Gore, Kerry, John McCain, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Dwight Eisenhower or Millard-Frakking-Fillmore been President, the Katrina response, not just from FEMA but from all Federal agencies that are involved, would have been immensely faster. The problem is that the current crop of Repubicans have zero respect for government, so the attitude is to destroy it from within. And it worked! And, on that score, your guys really did a heckuva job. Live with it. (Or, do what you always do and lie about it afterwards.) I'm done here.
He also used to prank Secret Service all the time, and yes I still want someone to make a Coolidge movie.
Auntie, quit with the koolaid. Please tell us how 7 years of high GDP, low interest rates, and low unemployment was a downward spin. The spin started when members of YOUR liberal party forced companies to make bad loans and refused to take responsiblity. As far as lightweight, Palin has more official experience than our PRESIDENT. She had more years in an official office than Geraldine Ferraro did when she ran. Did you complain about Ms. Ferraro and her measely 5 years of congressional experince (she was a teacher before)? Was she a lightweight? Please, don't let facts get in the way of your blather.
Hollywood makes a ton of money even while offending roughly half of the public with regularity.
And let's face it, the scene with him wearing the Indian headdress and a pained facial expression would be pretty funny. But the scene with him saying " no one has the right to strike against the public good" would be one of the highlights.
So Tommy, the last 60 days are all Obama's fault?!?!
I thought you were OK- liked the reference to The Shining. See, I can laugh about things even when it's about the man I voted for. It's not all blather unlike some others' blather……
You obviously haven't read Jessica Mitford's book A Fine Old Conflict, which is not only a complete volume of humorous left-wing self-deprecation, but features the pamphlet Lifeitselfsmanship, which she wrote to make fun of communist party styles of communication and thought while still a CP member. (Or isn't the Communist Party left wing these days?) The only left wingers worth listening to are the ones who know how to make fun of themselves. Come to think of it, when is the last time a conservative made fun of himself or his politics? Rush Limbaugh doing satire on James Dobson anyone?
I'm proud to have voted for Obama both in February and November, and I got a good laugh out of that one. Yeah. It's funny. I still think he's doing a great job as president, but keep it up.
Now, which two presidents fit equally well into this question?
What is the difference between Jane Fonda and _____________________?
Jane Fonda went to Vietnam.
(Hint: you couldn't have asked this one about John Kerry, nor John McCain.)
Of course Artboy, that goes with the job. A few years ago, I rented a room from a recent immigrant from another continent (now a U.S. citizen), who was terrified when I made jokes about our then-president, GWB. Based on custom where he previously lived, he expected the FBI to break down the front door and "disappear" both of us. I said, don't worry, skewering the president is our national past-time, no matter who it is. So, you are right, Obama won the election, he is fair game, hopefully for eight years. The article we are all talking about claimed that nobody is telling any funny jokes about this president. My point is, if you don't hear the jokes you want, tell some.
The ONLY media personality I have ever heard annoint Obama as "The Messiah" is Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he was wrong this time.
I didn't say the last 60 days are all Obama's fault. (I do find it interesting that is the only think you commented on my paragraph, because, of course, the other things I said were pretty much bulletproof.) Also not that I never said I was a toe the line conservative and agreed with Bush's handling of spending and border control, two things I strongly disagreed with him on. However, Bush didn't sign a trillion dollar program without reading it, put together in pieces by people who didn't read it. Obama was the guy that allowed for the billions in earmarks/pork and lied to the citizens that it was not in these plans, and further wallpapered over the fact that he and his very own team members knew what was in the AIG agreements when it comes to bonuses. (What was it the Left was saying for the past several years about Bush "lying"?) So, were the last 60 days of stock market chaos and layoffs all Obama's fault? No. Were the idiotic things he has done and said in the last 60 days while at the helm his fault? Yes, his and his alone.
No, I've never read Mitford's book. Is it recent? Will Rogers poked fun at his own party too, but it's too long ago to be relevant. Did you know that Democrats used to think our nation was worth defending—but why discuss ancient history?
You might be right that there are leftists who know how to make fun of themselves. I think Jon Stewart does, but he's afraid to because he doesn't want to be booed by his audience. He's built up this great group-thinking beast—one that doesn't understand that it is possible to laugh at itself—and now he constantly has to feed it.
(Continued.)
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh in about ten years, but if I recall correctly he's a partisan political commentator / entertainer who employs comedy in furtherance of his political agenda. When he's challenged, he defends his positions intellectually. He doesn't say, "Hey, I'm just a comedian." But with his bombastic pronouncements of "talent on loan from God," "half my brain tied behind my back," and "executing all duties flawlessly, with zero mistakes," I see him as the original Colbert: he has fun with his critic's perception of him as a windbag.
Wasn't that specifically for tearing up the Pope's photo? How's Sinead O'Connor's career doing?
"The One"–Oprah Winfrey
"A Lightworker"—San Francisco Chronicle
"This [Obama's campaign] is the New Testament." – Chris Matthews
"The planet will heal, the oceans will cease their rise…" – Barack Obama
Not to mention the magazine covers, from Rolling Stone to Newsweek, showing Obama surrounded by auras or topped with a halo.
You're not aware that President Obama uses a teleprompter during press conferences?
Do you get all your news from Jon Stewart?
====You realize you're completely insane, don't you — and apparently obsessed with sex as well.====
Flattery will get you nowhere with me.
I think so. And I don't think they've aired that clip since. (Maybe once during an anniversary retrospective but that's it.) And Ms. O'Connor did that on the spot – it wasn't planned or condoned by the SNL producers. If I recall, she rehearsed with a photo of a child or something like that and switched out the photo for the live broadcast.
For more info, check out the book Live From New York – pages 389 – 393.
Your mistake is in assuming that SNL has been funny on a consistant basis ever. I can name maybe three sketches that I laughed at, Celeberty Jeopardy, The bit with Frank Sinatra singing duets and going through them quickly with no pauses, and.. I think there's a third one I laughed at… I can't remember now though.
Seriously, the show has always been unfunny. This 'recent' unfunny spell is par for the course. at the instance of friends who can't beleive i don't find the show funny I went back and watched many of their favorite episodes. at the most I chuckled. What I saw was, in some cases, funny people in unfunny sketches, and sometimes unfunny people in sketches that could be funny. For every Belushi you had a Frankin.
I understand i'm probably in the minority in this view, but I can't accept that the show was every funny on purpose. Its like me playing baseball, the law of averages says that eventually i'll get lucky and hit one out of the park, same thing with SNL, make enough jokes, no matter how bad 99% of them are, you'll eventually tell one thats actually funny and some one will laugh.
Actually, lots of folk like you loudly proclaim they're not coming back… and then do.
Every now and then, a high paid, high profile actor does let loose one very profound bit of wisdom. I don't remember the topic exactly, but a few years back a reporter approached Brad Pitt at a typical Hollywood event to obtain his opinion of the latest global-political event at the time and he answered:
"Why are you asking me? I'm just an actor!"
The big downward spin is the one Republicans refuse to cop to. It is also the most egregious violation of traditional Republican values. How do I know? My mother is a life-long Republican, a family tradition she inherited from her great-grandfather, from eastern Tennessee, whose Civil War discharge papers were signed by Abraham Lincoln. I think her grandfather on the other side, a member of the United Mine Workers of America, may also have been a Republican. John L. Lewis was. My mother believed in balanced budgets. She would support tax increases if we were getting our money's worth, and would prefer paying taxes to deficits, although cutting waste is even better, when we can agree on what the waste is. Now getting back to what the downward spin is: during reasonably prosperous times, when we should have been setting reserves aside for a rainy day, GWB was financing "tax cuts," not by reducing spending, but by running up record deficits, borrowing the money, mostly from the Peoples Republic of China. The last three Republican presidents increased the national debt by record percentages. The last Democratic president actually began paying off the national debt. GWB called the money "surplus" that should be "returned to taxpayers" when we as a nation still owed about 5 trillion dollars!!! Try to handle your mortgage and family budget that way. This is why our current president, accurately, refers to the deficit we inherited. Unfortunately, every economist in the Bush AND Obama administrations agreed we need some stimulus to get the economy moving again, so that does mean even more deficit spending. We should have had reserves and a reduced debt from the good times, and we don't.
True about lawyers. If the courts listened to Hugo Black and Antonin Scalia, we might have a functional constitutional government. Why those two? "When the constitution says 'Congress shall make no law…' it means Congress shall make NO law. It does not mean, Congress shall make no law unless the executive branch and the Supreme Court decide that on balance, the people's interest in not having the law made is outweighed by the government's interest in passing it." (Black). And Scalia nicely skewered Breyer in the Apprendi case for the erroneous notion "that the constitution means what we would like it to mean. It does not. It means what it says." Those two statements really say it all.
No, its not recent. Published in 1977. I found a copy at a used book store, or sale, or something. That's where I get my best reading. I also like picking up old Kenneth Roberts novels, the best fiction available on the American Revolution.
When the Roman Church (its never in its entire history been truly catholic) condemns anything, I thank God that I live in the USA, where it doesn't matter what the Roman Church says, or at any rate, the Pope's pronouncements do not have the force of law. The church can say whatever it likes, just like the rest of us can. I also thank God for the Reformation. That doesn't mean I'm against those people who call themselves Catholic. I've been to a few masses with an elderly Hispanic friend. It was a perfectly good worship service. But the hierarchy does not speak for God.
Oprah, I don't watch. But I remember buttons in 1968 saying "Nixon's the One." In 1973, I wanted to wear one, as the Watergate investigation was closing in. SF Chronicle, I haven't read in years. Chris Matthews I don't know from Adam, although I may have seen him satirized at the Wittenburg Door web site. The last comment, I'd have to see the full context, but I know Barack knows the difference between himself and Canute, so there must have been some effort by a lot of other people being projected. Actually, Canute knew he couldn't turn back the tide. He was teaching a sycophantic courtier not to talk nonsense.
I read it. And as many of the comments under it point out, this is really funny. It is not making fun of dead soldiers. It is making fun of the way politicians, pundits, lobbyists, anyone with a bit of pork to roll in a barrel, USE the appeal of genuine sacrifices by our soldiers for the most sordid manipulative purposes. By the way, The Onion does provide balanced reporting. They were the first to run a headline "Black Guy Asking for Change" next to a picture of candidate Obama. Well, it was an attempt to put out some comedy about the guy. After the classic Sept 2001 headline "Privileged Children of Millionaires Square Off on the World Stage" (photos of GWB and OBL), the ran an article on the hijackers surprise to find themselves in hell, rather than paradise. The Onion runs a lot of raunchy stuff, but when it is good, it is very very good.
Yeah, but JFK cheated on his beautiful wife with about 500 dumb blondes during the time he was in Washington. Obama is, to the horror of James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and Rush Limbaugh, a practitioner of family values. If he were not, the National Inquirer would have told us about it by now.
The teleprompter is a good foil. How about, two different policies, two different answers to the same question, the position papers from two diametrically opposed cabinet officers, each running on a different teleprompter, and his eyes are bouncing from one to another? I don't have the equipment or training to produce that, so I'll leave it to you Hollywood guys.
I didn't vote for Obama because he's charismatic. I couldn't understand that crowd. I voted for him because he thinks before he opens his mouth, sometimes (like the rest of us, when he doesn't, he makes a fool of himself), and didn't insult the intelligence of the voters with trite one-liners.
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But the people in middle America didn 't know about JFK cheating, rumors really didn't go far in those days, and most people assumed it was nonsense when they did hear a bad comment about him, assuming it was his political enemies making it up. His heavy drug use was covered up for years, and still to the day, there's been no definitve tell all book about him that is down and dirty. Same with Clinton. Plenty of books that tell little pieces, lots of innuendo, but nothing that just puts it together and says BAM.
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