Waiting for GOP

conservative americans across the land are showing the heart of a lion, yet the gop is befuddled with how they, as a political entity, should proceed. my suggestion: get thee to the streets and start taking notes.

Nolotrippen – The thing that annoys me the most about libs' attacks on Ollie North is that, as my wife once informed me, a few years before Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, Col. North warned congress that the man was a threat to world peace. One of the senators scoffed at the notion. Who was it? Why, none other than the patron martyr of the libs, Senator and soon to be Vice-President Al Gore, who later chastised Bush 41 for not going after Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War any more than he did.

There is probably an equal number of Democrats worthy of respect – their party affiliation notwithstanding. They do not get much air time, but we hear from time to time that one or another opposes the donna from SanFran, or is actually friendly to our allies. There are probably a few more recoverable as human beings. If we want real representation some of us non-politician types have to run and get elected.

So true. It's about time that the GOP leadership answered to the GOP instead of licking liberal boots. I see a lot of unemployed politicians …

So…did the Congressional GOP win a major victory when Sebelius said government-run insurance was not "essential", or did the GOP just sell us out again?

I just checked HuffPo–the "progressive" commentors are in white-hot meltdown mode over Sebelius' seeming concession, so the Dear Leader's apparent abandonment of "the government option" can't be all bad…but beyond that I am not sure.

On one hand, the GOP is in the House minority, and every GOP Senator working together could not filibuster Obama-care if the Dems all supported it, so getting the Dear Leader to concede that the single payer system won't fly for now is nothing to sneeze at, and testimony to the power of the grass-roots rebellion against Obama-care.

'Stead of sitting at the bus stop waiting for you-know-who…

Yes, T-Rav we should

I just love Ann.

Puck the Farty!

Great piece, Chris. My only complaint is there is too much truth and not enough humor. Maybe that's because the attitude of the GOP toward conservatives is past being funny.

Don't count on the scales falling away from the eyes of the GOP. They will toe the conservative line just far enough to keep us voting for them. The monied interests have no use for us other than that.

There are sound conservatives in both parties — an overwhelming vote in their support might open some eyes elsewhere in the political scene.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves." ~~D.H. Lawrence, Classical American Literature, 1922

I think Lieberman falls into that category. I think he is a good person even though I have serious fundamental disagreements with him. I respect him. I am having trouble conjuring anyone else. I guess I would have to go look at the list to jog my memory.

I would say there are more state politicians that I respect. My own horrible state not included… or New York's.

I basically severely dislike politicians… especially career politicians. I cannot emphasize the severely part enough. I have a visceral negative reaction when faced with glad handers. That includes lobbyists. Makes it hard come holiday time. I guess that is why I moved to the other side of the country.

I am iffy on those who want to be one. My own dad ran for state senator (he did not win). He would have made a wonderful state senator. It turns out, instead, they elected a man of integrity. A Democrat.

Normal people who get into politics usually do not stay in it long.

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Much rather have a live-action Sam.

Hell to the yes! Look for what works and emulate it, is it a little too much to ask for common sense from these people?

"'What I am saying is the bottom line for this for the president is, what we have to have is choice and competition in the insurance market,' White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday."

Check it out – the dems are learning new buzzwords in an effort not to lose power. They can be taught!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhau...

Can anyone give me an address to write to Michael Steele?

Great cartoon! Very nice work.

If you guys want to see one of the "good" members of the GOP, check out Chuck.

Your best one yet!

"I don't know what Republicans imagine they're getting out of all this love they keep throwing at Democrats. I've never heard a single liberal preface attacks on Oliver North with a recitation of North's magnificent service as a Marine. And unlike Murtha, who refuses to release his medical records showing he was entitled to his two Purple Hearts, we know what North did. (These Democrat military veterans are hardly shrinking violets when it comes to citing their medals, but they get awfully squeamish when pressed for details.)"
– Ann Coulter, November 30, 2005

I can count on one hand the Congressional Republican politicians I respect. That is being generous. When I vote for them, I only do so because I think they may be less harmful. But just like I did with McCain, I hold my nose when voting for them.

I won't get into what I think of Congressional Democrats. No need to ruin a beautiful day.

Conservatives and Libertarians are out in the wilderness.

Conservative = Freedom, the ultimate in compassion.

If only the politicians would follow us in. Frankly, all of them need to recalibrate what a listening tour really means.

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Great imagery Mr. Muir. The Republicans have nothing to do with the outrage, they are scurrilous Washington politicians as well. I’m going to use a technical term, “we’re pissed off,” you had better get in line, NOW! Or get your résumé’s in order cause we’re gonna kick you’re a$$es out in 2010, all of you. Thank you, I feel better.

This is the ULTIMATE GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for the GOP. And they are silent. The only republican I see speaking up is Sarah Palin, she types a few words into facebook and she, in effect becomes the 101st senator (nickle to Tammy Bruce). And I think she's fed up with the party too!

The GOP needs to sieze this chance and not go on one of their famous "Circular Firing Squads". But saddly, they realize that they are part of the problem too.

Conservative need to keep pressing and forget about the GOP. If they are smart, they'll follow us!

Unsatisfied with the Republican Party leadership? Change it. How? 50 per cent of the precinct committeeman slots in it nationwide are unfilled. Conservatives can take it back if they just join it. Precinct committeemen vote for the Party leadership. More conservative PCs, more conservative leadership.

Go to Redstate.com and type in the words precinct and committeeman in its search pane to learn more.

Or go here: http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

Obama and those backing him took the Debtocrat Party away from the Clintons using the same strategy.

Thank you.

Cold Warrior

Yes, Lieberman is an honest man. But he will not pass conservative laws, he will pass liberal laws 99% of the time. Even the worst Republican opportunist will vote for what I want more often than Lieberman. And the corollary of nor caring much for politicians is that I can vote strategically for people I don´t need to like. The so-called "conservative base" has more often than not voted strategically for defeat, replacing moderate Republicans with liberal Democrats.

What you are saying is that conservatives are too weak or ineffectual to influence the GOP. How much influence will you have on your own?

This third party talk is undiluted bullcrap. It is identity politics for the Right. It´s a guaranteed way to keep out of power forever, just so that a minority of "true conservatives" can feel good about themselves. And it will be a minority because a significant number of socially conservative Christians will not follow a "small government only" party and vice versa. And then we are all screwed.

Conservatism won with people like Reagan, who were inclusive and optimistic even though Reagan would have failed the "true conservatives" test. Note that Reagan was conservative, but he didn´t endlessly talk about it. He barely mentioned the word.

Contrast that with the small number of conservative hot button issues that dominated the 2008 primaries, where we debated for 6 months about how much Romney or Giuliani deviated from "true conservatism". Doesn´t that look pretty stupid in retrospect? Think Giuliani would have nominated liberal judges? Think Romney would have come up with cap-and-trade and the stimulus? A base that only knows who isn´t good enough serves nobody.

Steele is an utterly decent guy and I´m sure he is very conservative. The problem is, he doesn´t like fights. He always seeks agreement and consensus. I knew that after he hosted the Hugh Hewitt radio show once and no matter what a caller said, Steele first agreed with him, then maybe tried to get a different point in. That doesn´t always work.

At a time when 40% of Americans are identifying themselves as conservatives, and that figure is rising, I do not see a problem. The Bush family is comprised of "Patrician Republicans" who are not Texas conservatives but New England Elite Snobs. They have done more to destroy the legacy of Reagan and conservatives than the Democrats. The media got Obama elected and now they have egg on their face because the American People can see through the facade. In New England there are no Republicans because given a choice between a Liberal Republican and a Liberal Democrat, the Democrats will pick their own every time. Reagan won Massachusetts twice.

Why do any of us care where the Republican party is today? This group courted the Christian vote, did nothing right when elected to office, but increase the largess of their own pocket books and size of government… so why should any of us care where this party is now? Why should we not be looking as a patriotic American to forming a new party of We the People? This nation is a Christian nation regardless of what soon to be impeached Odumba claims and the voices of the people are rising up against this government that is out of control and oppressive to us all. Enough beating a dead horse America we need to fire all the politicians on both sides of the isle and create real change in America that stands to represent US THE PEOPLE! Not some self interest group promoting an agenda to make America what they want it to be…. a socialist EU Type society that only the elite are able to decide what is best for the masses.

That´s my point. You can´t win with 40%. You can have 40% as a lever to influence one of the two great parties, or you can have part of those 40% having their own treehouse where nobody else is welcome. Identity politics for the Right.

Reagan won Massachusetts twice, but not a platform of "let´s show those elite snobs". Wasn´t his style. And with some in the base, being electable in Massachusetts disqualifies a candidate.

Yes and no. Reagan did not exclude anybody. He did not win by drumming people out of the party, he had a big tent. And the "grass roots" consisted of far more than the conservative movement, there were hawkish Democrats and so on. Reagan was a conservative leader, but he didn´t send anybody away. If you listen to his speeches, he talks about where we should go and what we can do; he rips collectivist ideology, but he doesn´t stand there talking about how conservative he is. Thinking about it, Obama didn´t win by pushing non-liberals away, he won by lying about being centrist.

Do not believe for an instant that this minor concession means the majority of the bill (hateful as it is) is not still on the table.
Do not cheer, do not stop insisting that they drop or drastically alter this abomination of a so called health care bill.
The people need to see what ever it is that is in the final draft.
We need time to direct our representatives which way to vote on it.
They need to listen to us!

I couldn't connect to your site! Said I was forbidden.

Also, once in a while I like to step into \”if I could have my way – Dreamville\”. Then reality intervenes. Grr.

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I wish for the same thing, but you were quite realistic about politics in your earlier post. By all means we should vote for people with integrity. When we come across them. Of course integrity can be faked, too, some of the time. And in the struggle of actual governing, it will not always be clear who actually has it.

But in the end, I don´t care if they have a conscience and convictions as long as they vote for bad policies. Good intentions and all that. I will vote strategically for people I don´t necessarily respect, or who represent the lesser evil. When it comes to national office, these days that means Republicans every time. As a conservative, I don´t need to feel good about myself, you know.

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