Tonight: ‘The Goode Family’ Gets a New Life
by Christian Toto“The Goode Family” didn’t stand a chance on ABC. The animated sitcom, that oh, so rare product that openly mocks liberals, got little promotional oomph from its own network and ended up with few viewers. That’s the same network that refused to re-broadcast a popular miniseries, “The Path to 9/11,” that cast the Clinton administration in an unflattering light and now won’t permit it to be released on DVD.
It‘s a bit of a miracle “The Goode Family“ made it on air in the first place. But the Goodes are back courtesy of Comedy Central.
The cable channel will start rebroadcasting the entire season of “The Goode Family,” co-created by Mike Judge, on Monday nights starting tonight at 10 p.m. EST. It’s a longshot the show will be reborn thanks to its new platform, but such a renewal isn’t without precedent.
“The Family Guy” roared back to life after the show did blockbuster business on both DVD and Cartoon Network reruns. And “Futurama” still cranks out new installments years after its cancellation.
The first “Goode” episode out of the gate is “Pleatherheads,” which finds the family’s adopted son Ubuntu (voiced by Dave Herman) trying out for the -gasp!- high school football team.
“You mean tackle football, like in the movies?” clueless dad Gerald (voiced by Judge) asks.
Community activist wife Helen (voiced by Nancy Carell) is incensed – mainly because she’s got a hidden football addiction and loses control when she goes off the wagon.
Meanwhile, daughter Bliss (voiced by Linda Cardellini) is flummoxed that her chances for earning a college scholarship are looking dim based on her skin color. Or lack thereof.
“Red is the new black,” she says as she considers changing her name to something that sounds more Native American.
“The Goode Family” had an entire topic nearly all to itself – mocking liberals who try oh, so hard to do the right thing all the time. And the series didn’t make fools of the family in the process. In “Pleatherheads,” the Goodes’ vegetarianism plays a key role in the story’s conclusion.
So here’s hoping “The Goode Family” finds a new, wider audience on Comedy Central. And if the show doesn’t end up coming back in one form or another, maybe it’ll convince other comedy writers there’s plenty of untapped humor to be minded from the Left.
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I watched most episodes of the Goodes. I found it a huge disapointment. Like An American Carol, it was too timid. We conservatives are (so far) too gentlemanly in our humor. We are protrayed as liars, thieves, Nazis, destroyers of planets, and people who would gun down a harmless third-world village (or our own grandmothers) in pursuit of profit. We portray liberals as . . . misguided fools. Guess which is funnier.
Family Guy is funny. American Dad is funny. We need a conservative version of Seth McFarlane, but too many conservative writers seek to create "appropriate" or "reasonable" material and instead create material that few people really want to watch. We need to be inappropriate and unreasonable and unfair and yes, downright mean. Then we will be funny.
I tried watching it when it was first broadcast and it just wasn't that funny. There were occasional moments but I ended up wishing that the whole family (except the dog) would just die in a fire.
yhe pilot was b-o-r-i-n-g, they needed someone who knows how to write
that show was pretty goode
Excellent! Loved this show when it aired, hope it can come back. The pilot is especially hilarious!
Comedy Central will be a good home for The Goode Family. It has been a equal opportunity offender for quite some time. And I believe that most folks who watch this channel are expecting to laugh first and wax politic second. So if the Goodes fail on this channel it will because few are finding it funny and not purely because of politics or some alternative agenda. CC has somehow been able to stay sheltered from MSMism– South Park being a prime example.
Good luck to the Goodes.
Uh…isn't the basic cable audience even _smaller_ than the regular broadcast one? Even a huge Comedy Central audience is still smaller than a 'small' network one. But hey–I'm just thrilled I can finally get Comedy Central in HD!
I had high hopes when this first came out, but was not impressed. I will give it another chance tonight just because there is never any show that takes a stab at liberals.
It never had me rolling, but even its mere existence made me at least hopeful for the chance to hear a different voice on TV. If it catches on, then mayhaps the writers (without having to worry about network brass) might be able to be a little more daring in their depictions.
This show was hysterical, I hope a network picks it up for new content. The episode poking fun of crazy animal-rights groups had be CRYING with laughter!
Helen's dad Charlie (voiced by Brian Doyle-Murray) made the show enjoyable to me, especially when he was playing "fetch" with the free-gan… The poor dog (Che) was also pretty funny too, maybe it'll get new life on CC?
You make some good points. I find South Park to be in general grounded, down-to-earth, and basically conservative, although quite offensive to many. Even I think it's over the top sometimes, but sometimes humor is supposed to be
Exactly! South Park is an excellent example. To quote Matt Stone, "I hate conservatives. But I REALLY hate liberals." Because SP lampoons both sides evenly, many liberals refuse to watch it. That's okay – it will always be popular because it is funny, and it is funny because it is original and unafraid.
Political correctness is the enemy of the arts. That goes for our side as well as the left. WE have to banish the fear of "offending" before we can create something truly worthwhile.
I'm working on a black comedy on the topic of . . . Islamic extremism. I go after the jihadists and the attorneys who protect them. A few months ago, a well-known (and uber-leftist) UCLA writing instructor threw the script back at me and said, "You've gone too far!" So I might be on the right track.
ah, indeed if that was the instructor's response then you are definitely on the right track.
Family guy needs to be more edgy, something along the lines of "Southpark" but without the "yewwww factor."
How unfunny shows like "Saturday Night Live" and "30 Rock" keep making it is beyond me. And the (lib) preaching never stops…
The bottom line is that if we want more "right minded" TV shows, we need to show the networks that there's an audience for it. So when a show like this comes out we need to support it, because in the end, even the biggest commie pinko anti capitalist liberal WANTS TO MAKE MONEY, even if it means producing shows like South Park and the like.
Thats what makes me laugh about this, every right wing attempt to tap humor from the left fails because it just isn't entertaining or funny. Thats just the bottom line, nothing partisan about it. Jon Stewart does an excellent job of making fun of the left. I think the right is just too stiff, takes itself too seriously to actually be funny. Good luck to you, right wing, I hope you find the formula.
Maybe jimgraphics has it- just support it. Even if its a stinker. I'm kidding, thats exactly the wrong approach and why you've failed so far. Big egos aren't good with humor, you should first work on that ego thing and then you might find the formula. While you're at it, look in the mirror and stop blaming everyone else for your woes, that will help too. Good luck!
You hit it on the head maatkare. And CC skews even younger than the network. Not a good recipe, but maybe the lower expectations will keep it alive longer.
Nope, this show mocked liberals for about three episodes, then it starting making them appear mainstream and normal, and only the uber-Liberals were the 'weird' ones. This left-wing family began to be presented as the 'sane' ones, versus their far-left-wing friends.
He showers outside with collected rainwater. But he's the sane one.
The show isn't what you think. It's intended to normalize the weirdness and portray those who would mock them as outsiders. The mocking comes from the far-left because this family, and as hard as they try just can't seem to be left enough. Dog-gone it, they try to be as left as they ought to be, they work so hard at it, why aren't they good enough?
It's a trojan horse. Beware.
I think supporting an unfunny show because you happen to agree with its politics is kind of pointless. It doesn't help spread the message if people are only watching it out of duty. Keeping a bad show on the air doesn't help the writers/producers to learn from their mistakes. Most people have better things to do than wastetime watching a tv show that isn't entertaining.
While you may be right about conservatives being more uptight in some ways, I suggest you give Redeye on FNC a try. Just to see what those crazy right-wingers find humorous.
It just wasn't funny. Why does the son borderline retarded? The animation style was ugly and yeah, it's just not worth seeing. Too bad, a missed opportunity.
The show is great. Alot of great gags and open goring of liberal sacred cows. Favorite lines
"Support our troops and there opponents"
"Flag pin" Under here breath at a Republican couple
"Maybe well just fire a few white guys"
When Family Guy was first aired, I found it hilarious. It was irreverent, and was pretty much apolitical. Now, it tows the left party line almost very episode. I no longer watch it, but I still love American Dad…
You want to talk about bruised inflated egos, take a look at your own party first. Every time their misdeeds are shown to the public, you can bet "racist" or "vast right-wing conspiracy" will be said. Dont judge a person unless you have solid ground to stand on.
Hi, I'm Glenn. Blah-blah-blah. If I don't think it's funny, it's definitely not funny. Blah-blah-blah.
II don't find Family Guy or American Dad funny in the least, but you do. Great, no problem. Also nice to see the reaction you got from the UCLA instructor. On the right track indeed.
Initially didn't like Ubuntu for the same reason. Fortunately, much like Dan Castellaneta evolving Homer's voice away from a Walter Matthau-type, Dave Herman shaped Ubuntu's voice into something more appealing and far less "gruntish." Seem to recall several voices on King of the Hill making similar transitions as well, and that seemed to work out pretty OK.
Ooo, I don't have cable, but I hope it does well for the sake of flagrant anti-liberalism. There just isn't enough of that sort of thing in the entertainment world.
Well heck, conservatives do not need a bunch of comedians, sitcoms or movies to point out the utter and hopeless hilarity of left-ardism. Not a day goes by that I do not derive great amusement at the expense of the left and all by simply reading something written by or listening to someone on the left. The self-annointed intellectual elites (hell that cracks me up just writing it) provide a veritable cornucopia of hilariously insane and lunatic pronouncements. What is extremely amusing is the unbounded delusions and intellectual pretensions of the left; I guess that is the result of engaging in a decades' long game of ego-stroking circle jerk. In reality, most on the left who try to pass themselves off as clever wits are no more insightful than a three-year old. And after telling yet one more in the latest feeble and simplistic jokes about conservatives, they resemble a three-year old who is excited at having gone the entire day without pooping in his pants.
I thought the show was hilarious, and I saw all of them. This was in large part to ABC putting the show online so I could catch up (the first one I saw live was Episode 5 or so). All the One Earth-isms are a riot. When I go to the Whole Foods market, people have no idea on why I have such a big grin on my face. Gerald as a Plantation Owner was a crack up to, along with Helen's jealousy and one upmanship with Margo. Unfortunately, I got my friends (even a few liberals) to watch the show just in time for them to cancel it. Did the same with Defying Gravity. Thanks, ABC.
GlennDamato, well said!
Your comment should be spread to the internet masses through copy and paste, while giving credit to the original writer of course.
Good Luck with the script!
To be fair, Family Guy was funny for the first half of it's first season, but it's been a laugh-free zone ever since. I've always been mystified as to how it became 'the show they can't cancel'.
Overall the series was uneven but the freegan episode had me in stitches.
Yes, I saw what must have been a first season episode of King Of The Hill tonight.
Yuck. The characters were caricatures of rednecks, they got a lot more developed and lovable as time went on.
Hopefully the Goodes will have time to develop on Comedy channel, they have some funny ideas, and lots of liberal foolishness to skewer.
So nice that you enjoyed it. I wrote that episode.
Speaking of Family Guy: did anybody see Quagmire's anti-Brian rant where he calls him out for having a "textbook liberal" outlook, calls him a typical leftist freeloader, and says he never practices what he preaches in regards to helping the homeless? (Brian represents Seth MacFarlane's liberal views and persona).
It caused my hatred for the show to abate considerably, and now I watch it regularly and often find it blindingly funny when it stays apolitical. Watch out for a new Rush Limbaugh episode he did a voice-over for in (I think) October. He said he had a lot of fun doing it and meeting the show's creators.
Not familiar with "American Dad" but will check it out. Thanks.
"Family Guy" is indeed funny but I can't stomach the preachy lefty stuff. Once a show starts doing that it usually portends the downward spiral of quality, originality and plot. Still think "SouthPark" is genius but sometimes they miss the mark (that's ok – they are trying).The problem is that "Southpark" gets unnecessarily overly gross at times.
Another subject/genre but do you think "24" has gone somewhat that way lately?
I find "Southpark" pretty conservative at its core.
hehe, the drawing is not very pro, dude
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Southpark is pretty much the template for edgy "conservative" humor, I hope like the Simpsons it stays on for years and years to come.
I saw a couple episodes of the Goode Family… and frankly, I don't think I could judge if it was funny or not because I literally couldn't believe ABC put it on in the first place. I was basically in shock and that's not an appropriate place to judge if something is funny or not.
OK…lets make this simple:
BRING BACK HANK HILL.
I have watched Redeye several times. There are moments that are funny, in my opinion. That is probably the most relaxed and genuine attempt at humor from the right I've seen so far, but its still kind of strained. I don't think its entertaining enough though, I need more than one funny segment per show to stay interested.
What Independent misdeeds have been shown to the public? If you're talking about Democrats, you're right! At the same time, if you don't like being called a "racist", stop being one (not you personally, conservatives in general).
I did like The Goode Family, but i always felt like it tried too hard to live up the the cariciture of the family's extreme lifestyle. I think liberalism is much more subtle and under the surface, but still destructive in everyday life, and ripe for being mocked.
Well heck, you're exactly right – three-year olds. But you're not a three old, so more than anything I get the impression of maniacal discomfort from your reports of amusement. I don't think you're amused at all. Like most things from the extreme right, its painfully contrived. Religion tends to do that to people.
I no longer watch 24 because every season is the EXACT same storyline. If you watch one season, you have seen the whole series pretty much. No longer a fan. However, I will always be a diehard South Park fan due to the fact that they have no sacred cows. When Isaac Hayes left the show after the Scientology episode, they killed Chef off. No mercy, no quarter, just moved on. I will always respect Matt and Trey for that. I will be a fan for life.
As a side note about Family Guy. If you folks didn't know, Family Guy was cancelled after 2 seasons due to its offensive nature. It took no prisoners each episode. Now, it is your typical leftist drek. Shame on you Seth MacFarlane…
See, now that was extremely amusing to me considering that I have been an agnostic for 31 years. That you would automatically assume that anyone who disagrees with your childish and simplistic worldview is motivated by conservative religious beliefs proves my point that most on the left are, to be frank, complete idiots and as your name suggests, have fluff for brains. Now as I can't stop my obviously justifed laughter at your expense I must be off and away.
I already said you're right, what more do you need? Do I need to say it again, because you are right again indeed. Democrats used the racist southern strategy historically. Around the passage of the Civil Rights Act that changed, thats when Republicans became the standard southern strategy racists. Look at state by state results of every national election for 40 years. I agree too regarding Sharpton and Jackson.
Now, to say racial politics is not played by the right is simply delusional. You can't be serious. We can start with George Allen and "macaca", to Trent Lott, Haley Barbour, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, David Duke, Ronald Reagan, to the Jim Crow laws and opposition to the Civil Rights Act. Republicans DEPEND on the south for any national elective potential, they captured the south by leveraging their support for racist policies to get poor, blue collar southern whites to vote for them. This is all well documented and easily accessible. So you can no longer claim ignorance, assuming thats your shortfall. I hope you've learned something.
Not anyone who disagrees with me, but conservatives are predominantly motivated by conservative religious beliefs. Its the foundation of conservative orthodoxy. Religion and conservatism are indistinguishable. You best not let your brethren know you're agnostic.
I though a send up as a Jihad organization mired in bureaucracy would be at least a skit or two on SNL
you know doing a cost benefit study of a particular bombing, or submitting forms in triplicate, the regional vice president of the suicide bombing division has been there only 6 mnths but he is the most senior.
more talented people could take that and run with it. (if you use any of it, just thank me in the credits)
good luck.
If you really want to know what motivates conservatives I recommend reading "Conservatism: An Anthology of Social and Political Though from David Hume to the Present," ed. Jerry Z. Muller. Though you are correct about traditional religious values being a cornerstone of American conservatism that is just one aspect of the ideological foundation of conservatism. Read the great Classical Liberal theorists from the 17th to early 19th centuries (Hume, Locke, Smith, J.B. Say, Frederic Bastiat, J.S. Mill) and you will understand that what modern conservatives are defending are the principles advocated by those and others. And if you read the theories of Saint-Simon, Auguste Comte (both of whom advocated a form of totalitarian society that was governed by a combination of intellectual and industrial elite) as well as Marx and other socialist advocates then you will understand what motivates modern liberalism.
I just watched that episode yesterday morning while I was "ellipticaling". (I save Family Guy & Simpsons for when all my other shows are on winter/summer break – usually it's Red Eye during the morning workout to start the day with a smile). I couldn't believe it! It went on and on and it was so accurate. I thought, so Seth is at least aware of how the poseur libs (trendy ones, not true believers) come off to the rest of us. It did ease my dread of watching the rest of the season.
PieceACandy, as a foreigner in this country I'm quite amused by your discussions on racism, no doubt coming from a white, middle class, western born person who never lived in a country where true racism and totalitarianism exist. From my personal experience I discovered southern democrats to be as racist as any downtown hipster liberal, which was a rude reawakening. Because before coming to this continent I was bought by the same old Hollywood propaganda that all conservatives/republicans are bona fide racist and hate mongers (unfortunately taken as pure truth by lots of Europeans), so you can imagine my genuine surprise when time after time I discovered it to be quite the opposite. Of course there are exceptions to any generalization, but the way reality stands today, things do not look good for the liberals.
Thanks for the recommendations, I'm capturing them. I'm familiar with Locke and Bastiat but haven't read any of the others.
I've found much frustration with the point you raise. I think my own views are more in line with Classical Liberal theories than modern liberalism. And what I see of modern conservatism is far from the original Classsical Liberal theories. Some of the right words are used, but the actions don't match whatsoever. i see more a theocratic corporate-Marxism in the conservative movement today.
George Bush was/is a darling of conservatives, yet he was as far (nearly) from Classical Liberal theories in his policies as Obama. One difference is on social issues, where Bush did well in using the rhetoric and policies to placate the religious right. But somehow that was ok and vast majority of conservatives are able to overlook the violation of principles advocated by Classical Liberal theories because he was pro-life enough. To argue the alternative was worse doesn't hold water, because its one thing to vote for the guy over a worse alternative, its another thing to avoid criticizing when he so violates the foundational principles. Conservatives were and are mum about it. I disagree Classical LIberal theories are what motivate conservatives today. Its nice to say, I'd be a conservative if it were true, but little conservatives do and support indicates it is reality. Moderate conservatism is where we can still find adherence to Classical theories, but moderates are extinct on the right anymore, and they're being purged more not less. The movement has been hijacked by the extreme religious right, in my opinion.
I appreciate your view, Foreigner, but its not really consistent with reality, in my humble opinion. I don't doubt your experience may be different, but its not consistent with stereotypes of American culture. A southern democrat is MORE racist than any downtown hipster liberal. More accurately, a southern democrat is as racist as any southern republican. The constant being the south. Racism is way more prevalent in the south. Its why its called the Southern Strategy. If you look at an electoral map you'll see Republicans are dominant in the south, exactly because they court southern whites by leveraging racist policies. What you refer to as "hollywood propaganda" is pretty close to reality as you describe it. And I agree there are exceptions, we're talking in generalizations. Maybe liberals are indeed in trouble, expecially if they keep moving toward socialism. But don't be fooled, the reality of racism in America is not quite how you present it. One thing is consistent, the south is where racism still thrives.
I understand your frustration, many true modern conservatives (and by that I mean limited, small government, free market adherents) are as equally frustrated by many who pretend to hold conservative values. The self-annointed Republican elites have more in common with their Democratic elitiest counterparts than they do with the majority of those they seek to represent. They are both descendents of the wealthy progressive movement that arose in the late 19th – early 20th century and which was a fan of such great ideas as Eugenics, Fascism and Stalinism. Neither group has any faith in the individual or believes that individuals are capable of knowing what is best for themselves. But don't confuse those conservatives who promote entrepreneurs, capitalists and corporations by allowing them to succeed or fail based upon their ability to satisfy market demands with the pretend conservatives who use the power of government to favor those businesses that reciprocally support the politicians. The latter are essentially corporate-socialists.
I would like to reply to this but I do have several errands to attend to at this time, so I will have to delay my response. I appreciate your candor and civility; it makes the exchange of ideas more edifying. And I apologize for my earlier sarcasm, it was not very civilized. Take care.
Racial politics are not played by the right, my friend. If you look at the history of our great country, it has been Democrats that have separated races for their own ends. Look at every race hustler in and out of the Beltway. "Rev.s" Jackson and Sharpton, both Democrat, have destroyed race relations in this country. Dare I mention Sen Robert Byrd. I dont see Conservatives calling calling people racist when the political chips are down.
There is much confusion concerning Classical Liberalism and religion; that confusion arising from people juxtaposing the views of the Enlightenment radicals with those of Classical liberals. It was the radicals who wanted to completely secularize society and rid it of all vestiges of religion. The vast majority of Classical Liberals understood the attachment people felt towards their religions as well as their customs and traditions. They understood that the best way to inspire the rise of a reactionary party was to attack people's religion, customs and traditions. And that is what has been happening in the U.S. since the 1950s beginning with Supreme Court judges who deliberately misinterpreted the 1st Amendment. Nowhere does it mention a separation of church and state; that phrase was selectively taken from one letter Jefferson wrote to a Baptist minister circa 1803. As everyone should know Jefferson had nothing whatsoever to do with writing the Constitution so for judges to take his single statement and use it to make it the law of the land is a gross violation of the Constitution as well as the intent of the Founding Fathers.
And I have to disagree on what Classical Liberal tenets consevatives are defending in the modern era. All the true conservatives I am familiar with defend the principles of indiviudual liberties and rights versus modern liberal principles of group identity and rights and collectivism; they defend the idea of free market capitalism versus modern liberal notions of quasi-socialistic state interventionist economic policies; they promote the idea of federalism and a small, non-obtrusive federal government versus modern liberalism's overpowerful and large bureaucratic central government; and modern conservatives believe in the power of individuals to take care of their own interests and in individual personal responsibility versus modern liberalism's notion that the government has a large role in taking care of people, even those who are irresponsible and are the cause of their own suffering.
I've never seen Goode Family, but I was thinking about it the other day and wondering whatever happened to it, because the commercials looked funny. I should give it a chance.
My father was American but was born and grew up overseas. I was very surprised to find the biggest racist on my college campus in the US were the Blacks. I accidentally sat at "their" table in the cafeteria and caused quite a commotion – from them. Oops. Sorry, just looking for an empty seat.. Then all the demands from "black" student groups (I couldn't find a racial group for me to join…) for affirmative action grading and so forth. I think most Blacks (African -Americans, whatever) are the biggest racists in the country. Just listen to them and change what they say slightly by swapping the object with the subject, and you'll see…BTW I find Southerners to be really gracious.
They are just very uninformed, considering the sources of their news. I've had knock-down-drag-out fights with my friend's BBC "journalist/producer" sister over some very stubborn "facts" that she could just never prove. And she was a "highly educated (Cambridge) graduate and very high in the BBC!
It is you who is not living in reality. Liberals are the most racist people, especially urban liberals. Everything is about identity politics. They define everyone by their race. That is racism. When Obama is criticized, you hear (from liberals), they can't deal with a black man in the White House. The fact is, Obama's policies are decidedly anti-conservative, so of course conservatives will criticize him. The fact is, every president gets criticized, but liberals will not, can not, allow Obama to be President of the US. He is the black President of the US.
I could give thousands example of this. Uber-liberal Chris Matthews is always ranting about white Republicans. In talking about TEA partiers, he just said, They're all white. Every single one of them. What's that about?
Besides the fact that that is factually wrong, why is he defining this group by race when they are protesting their anger about an out-of-control spending and over-reaching government?
Because everything to liberals is about race. They are unable to look at people as people. They see and judge them by their race. That is racism. They continuously divide people over and over by their race.
Continued.
Then there's the fact that liberals, mostly urban liberals (who are by far the most racist and patronizing of minorities) are continually lowering standards to attract minorities. Who can forget Sotomayor's decision regarding the firefighter's exam, where not enough minorities passed an advancement exam so she ruled no one could advance. That is flat-out racism. Punishing people and prohibiting their advancement based on race. Over and over, liberals use minorities, all under the patronizing guise of helping them.
They continually lower standards in order to attract minorities. That is despicable and called the soft bigotry of low expectations. You come off as a completely liberal indoctrinated zombie with your talk of the Southern Strategy and Republican's courting Southerners with racist policies. Get a clue; it's liberals who court minorities with racist policies.Republicans think everyone is capable and believe in personal empowerment. Liberals believe minorities aren't capable and need lower standards and more and more government help. Their failed policies resulting in generational dependency play out in big cities across America. That's why I say minorities reside on the Democratic Plantation. The Democrats have just moved from their Jim Crow laws to a more politically correct way of keeping blacks under their thumb.
I'll go out on a limb and guess your college campus was in the south? But I won't argue against your point, I've seen the same type of racism too. Heck, at my college in Missouri we had a veritable race war at one point. It started with two friends getting in a fight, but one was white and one was black, next thing you know 30 guys of both races are lined up and throwing bricks and breaking into fights. But I wouldn't go so far as to say most blacks are the biggest racists in the country. And you have to take it with a grain of salt, it wasn't that long ago that literally, blacks were property of whites. People are still alive today who suffered segregation and serious racism in the south, before/during the civil rights movement, so we're not removed from the anger of that period yet. Agreed, southerners are very gracious, doesn't change the fact their racist too.
Its true many conservatives can't deal with a black man in the white house, he's got the keys to the front door. Given a larger proportion of cons are southerners, its a natural connection. And teabaggers are all white! Mostly old too. Which, is another natural correlation- old white people are more racist than youngers. I don't believe the teabaggers are protesting spending and over reaching government. They say that to make themselves appear legit. I would bet money if McCain were the POTUS and doing the same things, the teabaggers wouldn't be out there. Where were they during Bush?
Anyway, I agree Democrats use racial politics too. Republicans are obviously stronger in their use, because of the southern strategy and verbal gaffes, etc. they continue to make. I agree with you on some of your principles on this issue, but that doesn't excuse your delusion about it.
No my college is in northern California!
If tBlacks aren't racist then why did they vote for Obama over Hilary? Or a White mayor in Atlanta. Perhaps it isn't "racist" but "racial."
Blacks are still the property of Whites liberal Democrats. They strike me as having a still-l on-the-plantation mentality. When I start hearing them (or their "leaders") say that they want to be responsible for themselves, compete equally and not have to live off the labors of others then I'll know that they have moved off the plantation. Hell, this was MLK's dream. They were the property of other blacks – or Arabs – in Africa as well, btw, as some still are in the Arab world.
I grew up a minority overseas where Americans are admired gnereally but not Black Americans – they aren't well though of – not because of the color of their skin but because of their behavior. How long can I be accused of being racist simply because I am white? I really don't care and am so tired of the constant whining about their problems and how I'm supposed to "fix" their problems but yet I'm the cause. Just childlish. Sorry, I grew up color-blind but learned very quickly that I'm not viewed that way. In other words, I am not judged by the my character but by my skin and by-golly, I'm white so therefore a racist and to be blamed for all their problems. Of course let's forget just who fought for their rights and equality: yes, whites and especially Republicans.
Great! Glad to hear someone enjoyed it like I did.
Well, I just hope you feel better after that. Enough excuses, you just need to get over yourself. Because you are color blind doesn't mean others will be. You will always and forever be accused of being racist, sometimes just because you're white, other times because of something you do/say. Maybe, you don't get the respect you think you deserve because you don't really deserve it. Thats the first place to look for answers, its what a person responsible for him/herself does – look in the mirror.
No, Conservatives are motivated by the values of our founding. It's stated clearly in the Declaration and the Constitution, and no secret decoder ring is necessary.
Conservatives by-and-large want to retain our REPUBLIC and not turn it into a centralized, one party country in which the "citizens" are turned into "subjects," are subservient to a ruling elite and an unelected, anonymous, and unaccountable bureaucracy (i.e. see E.P.A.).
Religious people tend to be Conservative because Liberals are the ones doing all possible to wreck the freedom of religion as outlined in the Constitution. Why would a religious person be a part of an organization that works overtime to mock or deny their " free expression thereof?"
Just sayin'…
Thanks for you advice. I'll certainly be on the alert for any racist feelings or language, however exhausting is the effort. Perhaps there are some camps or re-education classes that would help me. I'm just so wretched.
But if I'm going to be labeled racist, no matter what, then why should I bother?
I wouldn't say you're wretched for this, thats a bit extreme. But, if its exhausting to check yourself for racist feelings and language, maybe it is a problem for you.
What you need to do, is try not being racist for a while and see how you're treated. So then, if you're still treated as a racist you'll know you may as well just be your natural racist self anyway. But if you're treated differently, you'll know why you were treated that way before and can make the choice which you prefer.
I should note, this whole thing is predicated on the notion you have that you are the center of the universe. Regardless of how others treat you, you could decide for yourself to not be racist, because, you know, its the right thing to do.
I disagree on the concept of "separation". The 1st Amendment doesn't directly state a separation, it does state there will not be an "establishment" of religion by the State, and of course the freedom to practice whatever. The separation of church and state is completely consistent with the establishment clause. If the gov allows ANY form of religious expression on public property it must allow ALL form of religious expression, or it can allow none and avoid the can of worms altogether. And the latter is the best way to avoid any semblence of an establishment of religion by gov also.
i would agree this concept has been taken to an extreme, perhaps even twisted to further a secularist and/or elitist-religion agenda, but the principle is sound. I think the resulting corollaries are silly- like banning a prayer at a HS football game, or banning the pledge for the God words. People who get offended by that stuff need to get over themselves.
Again, if this is so, how do you explain the overwhelming support George W Bush enjoyed and still enjoys from conservatives? I hear the words you use a lot, it sounds pretty, I'm on board with it, I also espouse what you say are tenets that modern conservatives defend! They're just words, I don't see action, or any further use of words or indignation properly focused, that is consistent with the words.
Thats easy to say. I see no proof to believe it however. Particularly the part about not wanting a "one party country" – conservatives act in a way to bring that about more than anyone. I think its exactly what conservatives want, as long as its a conservative party that controls the government.
Thats kind funny your reference to a Liberal organization. Despite reality, I understand you have to think of it that way so you have a concrete bogeyman to blame everything on. Religion and conservatism go well together because they both operate with an elitist, authoritarian hierarchy that depends on adherence to a set of beliefs for order and information. A proper strawman needs to be the opposite side of the same coin to be effective for bashing. But I'll give you a bone, you're partly correct in that the extreme left suffers from horrible group-think, just like the extreme right (assuming there is anything on the right besides the extreme, which is doubtful anymore).
I REALLY like this show and am saddened by the fact that it doesn't appear to be airing anymore on comedy central now either. The problem everyone seems to have with this show is what, I think, actually makes it unique. In a world of "Family Guy"s and "Futurama"s comes a show with actual "intelligent" , albeit (as GlennDamato put it) "conservative" humor. The real problem with this show is that the audience to whom it would speak the loudest are not large or avid TV watchers. Family Guy, American Dad, they're more zainey, built with a lack of linear ideas as far as story-lines are concerned (think Sesame Street for it's attention span innovation for young children).The mainstay followers of shows like that are MOSTly teens and tweens with a large younger adult mass sprinkled in. And truthfully the representation in the follower in those respective groups is NOT the most intelligent of their respective populations, so as far as intelligently funny, the obvious truth is no, those shows are not. And that's really the long and short of it.
So in response to YOU Glenn Damato NO WE don't need to be more like them WE just need more people like US watching shows like THE GOODE FAMILY so that THOSE SHOWS stand a chance. Unfortunately the prospect of that seems unlikely. Besides it's animated and its true target audience doesn;t really go for that sort of thing. They would see it as animated FIRST and valuable entertainment second.
Sad but true.
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