Lourdes Help Us – Is Madonna’s Kid the Next Style Icon?
by Christian TotoYou don’t have to be a cultural conservative to be alarmed about the path Madonna’s child, Lourdes, may be on.
The 12-year-old offspring of the Material Woman and ex-beau Carlos Leon has led a fairly private life up until now – by celebrity kiddie standards.
That’s no easy feat considering the circles her mamma sashays in. But that appears to be changing and it’s hard not to cringe at the possibilities.
Apparently, the hosts over at “The Today Show” were ooing and ahhing over young Lourdes recently, according to Entertainment Weekly’s April 10 issue which dubbed the youngster as “a poised style star in the making.” And Momma Madge herself seems prepped for her daughter to break out on her own.
She once told “Today” staffers Lourdes tends to “walk into a room and demand that everyone pay attention to her.”
Who knows where she picked up that attitude from?
If this behavior smacks of narcissism, then you better go pick up Dr. Drew Pinksy’s new book, “The Mirror Effect: How Celebrity Narcissism is Seducing America.”
The good doctor blows the whistle on tabloid culture – and its impact on impressionable youth.
For now, let’s hope Lourdes gets to enjoy a little bit more of her childhood before the paparazzi – and tabloid press – descend upon her.
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How has Madonna stayed relevant to our culture? She can't act, she can't write, she hasn't aged gracefully, and she hasn't had a hit since Abe Lincoln was President.
Here's how AP: she trashes America, takes her clothes off, pontificates about a religious practice she doesn't understand, votes Democratic and she's got a potty mouth. You don't need to do much more than that to qualify as a "cultural icon" these days. You certainly don't need talent.
Here's how AP: she trashes America, takes her clothes off, pontificates about a religious practice she doesn't understand, votes Democratic and she's got a potty mouth. You don't need to do much more than that to qualify as a "cultural icon" these days. You certainly don't need talent.
Style over substance, I'm surprised she's not president. She's certainly no less qualified.
Today takes Fellatio Media to a whole new level. It's a slowdive.
Lourdes has done nothing except be the daughter of Madonna; she may be the next Paris Hilton, but that's not saying much.
Doesn't poor Lourdes have any other role model to go by? Like maybe St. Bernadette?
I'm not familiar with that name. If you're saying by a female of some strange feminist dog breed, by the general term I think that's already covered.
"Is Madonna's Kid the Next Style Icon?"
Not with those eyebrows. That she still has them says they're being left as camouflage, like overgrown shrubbery hiding a Porsche in the driveway. And the nose, the teeth… Wait a moment. She looks far more like the child of Fran Drescher. Alright, I know Madonna is really pushing her Kabbalah thing, but come on…!
More qualified than Barry, she's actually made money and kept it from being misused. Also has far greater foreign policy experience.
While you out-of-touch morons continue to bag Madonna – a fascinating, intelligent woman, you clearl;y have no understanding of beyond tabloid garbage – her stature remains the same, and her fans devoted partly BECAUE of morons like you. Oh, but that's right… you're Americans.
Bottom line, in the eyes of this old school parent…
She's a kid.
Back off.
Wow, this comment had me cracking up. Madonna is 'fascinating' and 'intelligent'? Tell me what has she done to deserve such praise? She's become famous with very little talent and absolutely no class. But let me guess, since you are not American, you are so much more intelligent and sophisticated and are somehow able to see things in her we stupid Americans cannot, right?
Aside from perhaps being a good businesswoman, Madonna has no talent except for being obscene. This is enough for you to idolize her? And not only that, but to put down those of us who do not. Hilarious!
If you actually read the comments, we're talking about Lourdes. Madonna is periphery to the conversation at hand.
Keep sipping your Kool-Aid. It's done wonders for your rhetorical skills.
"…she hasn't had a hit since Abe Lincoln was President. "
This is just a plain lie, either that or you are disconnected from pop culture. "Hung Up" was the biggest hit of her career (this was in 2005, only three/four years ago roughly), "Sorry" was a global smash, and "4 Minutes" was one of last year's biggest hits. Her Sticky and Sweet Tour of last year is the most successful tour ever by a solo artist.
And I'd say she's aged VERY gracefully, go look at most women out there her age who don't have the unfortunate status of being the most famous woman in the world and you'll be shocked.
Madonna is an American too. Does this mean–bu your serpentine logic–she's a moron as well?
Madonna is featured more on VH-1 Classic instead of the primary station.
Have you seen the non-photoshopped picture of Madonna? She has not aged well at all.
Yes. It's a small Bernard. It's originally a story about a brave dog in Lourdes, France, who saves the whole village. But it seemed too improbable, so they changed the breed and sex of the dog, and made the story about a young girl having a miraculous healing vision. It was originally supposed to star the great-grandfather of the title dog in "Beethoven," but after all the changes, they hired Jennifer Jones instead.
"Trashes America…"
Hmmm… in her documentary Truth or Dare when the Canadian police threatens to arrest her, she gives a wonderful speech (though I am sure it was pre-written) about how proud she is of being from America where she has Freedom of Speech to perform her obscene acts… She also incorporates the American flag into many of her concerts.
I am not defending the second poster (the "moron" comment was uncalled for) but being a "good businesswoman," as Madonna herself has already stated, is a double-sided comment by people who don't want to admit that she is talented. If all she had going for her was being a "good businesswoman," she would not be around today.
Madonna has not gained a legion of fans for just being obscene (otherwise Courntney Love would've already given her a run for her money) or a bad actress (which I admit she is other than one or two good roles), she gained them mainly through her music, which includes some of the best pop tunes from the 80s (Into the Groove, Holiday, Open Your Heart, Like a Prayer) and one of the best albums ever done by a female artist: Ray of Light.
And yes, I do think she's a talented songwriter and above all a talented stage performer. Vocally she's average, but then again so are Bob Dylan and Chris Martin, yet since they are men I guess they are acceptable.
Technically fellatio would not be the correct term…
"Madonna is featured more on VH1 Classic instead of the primary station."
Well, yes… That is because she came out into the music business in the 1980s, like any 1980s artist she will be featured in the "classic" stations which was when her career peaked. My point is that she remained active into the 90s, 2000s, still has hit records and still has an active music career. She's had along with David Bowie one of the most consistent careers in the music business. All of her albums since 1984 have charted in the Top Three positions of the Billboard Top 200.
And yes, I've seen non-photoshopped pics (though that horrible pic of her coming out of the gym was clearly doctored) and I think she looks fine. She is still in shape. Once again, not as good as Sharon Stone or Michelle Pfeifer (those are the best-looking women out there in their 50s), but take a look at more 50-year old women and you'll see how good she looks.
Madonna's schtick is Che Guevara revolutionary chic.
Ironic coming from a Wealthy liberal worth conservatively half a billion dollars, but there you go. Revolution is now a reactionary act, by wealthy liberals who seek to draw up the ladder of social mobility to preserve their own status from challengers below.
Madonna is the perfect revolutionary: fabulous wealth and celebrity, a rather icky personal life, far too much icky sex with far too many partners, and narcissistic tendencies mixed with exhibitionism.
It's no wonder her almost entirely female and gay audience loves her. SHE is what they want to BE.
Which is an indictment most stunning on her fans. That she has them.
Madonna is a saner but ickier Britney and Lindsay.
Let's not pick on the kid until she hits the age of majority and gets her first arrest.
And Miley Cyrus is blowing her right out of the water, career wise.
Karma does catch up with people.
Lola doesn't have a career of any kind as of yet… so Miley Cyrus has nothing to do with this… to be honest even if Lola tries to be an actress she has to be at least better at it than her mother.
Lola doesn't have a career of any kind as of yet… so Miley Cyrus has nothing to do with this… to be honest even if Lola tries to be an actress she has to be at least better at it than her mother.
Who knows, Andrew? I'll admit to being a fan in the early 80's, the first 2-3 yrs after she came out, but I was done after that. I saw a pic yesterday from one of the British tabloids, and it was the worst pic of her I've ever seen. We all have seen the skinny, muscular,veiny pics the last couple of yrs, but this was disgusting. She looked freakish in the pic, her arms were tendony, and the flesh seem to drip of off the tendons. AGGHHH. I hope her kids aren't too messed up, and I am glad they didn't let her have another one. If she wants more, she can adopt one from the US, by going through the exact same standards are everyone else has to. No special treatment. And for goodness sakes, I hope she doesn't perform half naked anymore!
Yeah, she often interperses pics of Republican Presidents or candidates with pics of Stalin, Hitler, or Satan on the big screens. Lovely. Just lovely.
Hmm… I don't agree with the videos and she also once demonstrated Bush and Saddam as best friends… but those FOX News reports of her comparing John McCain with Hitler were VERY exaggerated… Watch the actual tour video online and you'll see the Adolph Hitler reference is VERY loose… There isn't a single doubt that she dislikes Republican politicians… that alone is not trashing America.
Ann Coulter compares Obama to Hitler all the time.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/article10...
I apologise for anyone who is left disturbed after viewing the link above, but AARON upthread says Madge is gorgeous and looks great for her age. Hits, sure she's got them, and for some reason people are still going to see her, but looking good for her age, you be the judge!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was speaking of Lola's "Mummy", not her (and I'd stay away from that 'Lola' reference before someone digs up that song). Reference first line of my last post.
Madonna is attractive in that Evil Succubus soul-consuming way, I suppose; based on your commentary. Glad it isn't me. Probably like her last relationships feel nowadays.
Francisco, I believe you misunderstood Mjolnir. I think he was saying that CYRUS is blowing MADONNA's career out of the water, not Lourdes. Yes, she is still a child, and until she is put out there as a media personality, she is off-limits. (However, as a woman, I do agree with the poster above, she could use a very light eyebrow grooming!)
And a Bernadette's rum cask is itsy bitsy…
Thebutlerid, while I appreciate the pic… that picture looks very doctored. I've seen her live in the same tour and while her arms are a bit skelectical, they do no look that bad. Same with that pic of last year's when she came out of that gym.
Also while she's successful so far… Miley Cyrus is not blowing Madonna out of the water, she hasn't even achieved the same worlwide status that Madonna has yet so I don't see where this argument is coming from. We are not even comparing apples to oranges, Miley is currently marketed at pre-teens by the Disney channel with her own little sitcom (which helps album sales for sure) and she has millions of teen girls on the hold with her concerts (though please mind once they enter puberty it's a different story…). This helps album sales, but due to her kiddie status she's never earned musical respect and never had a Top Five Hit in the US (her highest chart position is #6).
Like all "not so news worthy" yet, "news worthy" star's, Madonna is just trying to do best by her children. It is what any parent would do, famous or not! The girl probably has no talent and just a huge ego because of her parent's and their carrers ( dont forget to inlcude the amount of attention at every step Lourdes has taken since birth). However, you can't take away what Madonna has done to pop culture since the 80's, she took chance's no one else but Cyndi Lauper would at the time and we needed it.
http://newsx.com/files/images/madonna1.jpg
This is another picture which to my knowledge is undoctored… I won't deny her arms do look unnatural and veiny but they do not look as bad as that Showbiz pic want us to believe.
Like I said, she isn't the best looking woman in her 50s but has aged very well (and those arms have extreme workouts to blame, not just aging). I think we are forgetting how the average woman in her 50s looks these days.
Sorry, but there is nothing the least bit graceful about anything that Madonna does, including aging.
Oh sorry, since the first line in the post spoke of Lourdes I assumed it was about her. I still don't see how Miley is knocking Madonna out…
Exactly Beck, as a fan of 80s music myself, I must note how people must remember how Madonna (and Cyndi) broke a huge commercial barriers for female solo artists in music. I also find it interesting how back then critics noted that Cyndi Lauper would be the one still standing strong today with Madonna being forgotten, when the exact opposite has happened.
Madonna has also been accused of being jealous of Lourdes, hence why no shaving and eyebrow grooming. It will make up for a good Mommie Dearest tell-all book that's for sure.
Oh please. The KKK, CPUSA, & White Aryan Knuckleheads prominently display Old Glory too. Think they have a lot of love for America? And if you're sure her speech was pre-written, wouldn't you think that those Canadian policemen, her intended audience, might just be actors in uniform? I mean if the speech was pre-written, then she obviously knew she was going to have opportuity to deliver it. Clairvoyance? I think not. If Ms. Ciccone has any love for the USA it is because it provided her the opportuniy to amass a great fortune with meager talent. P.T. Barnum:"you'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer."
Ahh, Francisco is so thrilled. Finally he has a job. Defending a self-obsessed narcissistic tramp. Well, somebody had to do it.
Question is, who should back off? The media who dubbed her a "style icon in the making" or her mother who seems poised to push her daughter into the limelight so she can enjoy the reflected glow of whatever fame Lourdes can garner? Are we now the villains because we're commenting on the possible exploitation of this child?
He may have great intentions, but I can't trust the approach Dr. Drew takes towards calling our attention to celebrity narcissism. His VH1 programs are all about dramatizing celebrity weaknesses and vulnerabilities. It seems to do little good to simply turn real – albeit famous lives – into 'good TV'. Good (or actually bad) TV introduces none of us to anything but a visual and often overly dramatized slice of the struggle that the principals are involved in.
"…she hasn't had a hit since Abe Lincoln was President. "
This is just a plain lie, either that or you are disconnected from pop culture
You lost me when you appeared to take the Abe Lincoln comment literally…
Also, where were the songs you mentioned released? I listen to pop radio everyday, and have for more years than I recall (I was a teenager in the 80's so I know Madonna's music very well) and I have never heard those songs on the radio. Not once. I bet if you were to go on any random street and ask someone to sing the words to "Hung Up" they wouldn't know what you're talking about. But they'd know "Like a Virgin." Plus, saying her songs were a "global smash" makes it sound like you're her publicist, not a fan.
I liked her 1980s stuff, even some of the 1990s stuff. But I've seen nothing interesting since then and apparently neither has the public — she hasn't broken 2 million in US album sales since 2001. Compare that with the twenty-three million that her first three albums sold.
Lowest common denominator my friend. That's what some people when the talent starts to run dry. Sad, but effective.
Despite what her publicist Francisco says above, Madonna has managed to become an almost exclusively European star — like David Hasselhoff or Chris DeBurgh. And even then she's fading.
She hasn't broken 2 million in US album sales since 2001. Her 2006 album sold only 250,000 units in the US. Compare that with the twenty-three million that her first three albums sold (8.3 million average). Even her last big album, the one he's talking about, sold only 1.6 million in the US. And while it did sell 12 million world wide, that is an outlier — the other five post-2000 albums sold only 15 million world wide (3 million ave). Compare that to the 73 million world wide sales for her five big pre-1990 albums (15 million ave).
And no, I did not know that — had to look it up. So don't give me that look.
I posted a link to the pic I saw. It is in this collapsed thread of mess somewhere. BTW, I still hate this new system on here. Is it now stuck this way forever? I have gotten to where I don't come here as often, and I am hearing that from others, also. That is not what we want, is it? Great point on the sales of Madonna, AP.
Not me. I am well aware of how women who take care of themselves, but don't have surgery or excessive diets, or workouts look at 50. I am a 43 y old woman. Trust me, we know more about it than men do.The pic I posted is NOT photoshopped, and is from a few months back.
Whatever, enjoy your Madonna jackoffs or your job as her publicity director. The pic is not photoshopped.
Thanks. I expanded on the sales data below.
I am still having problems too, but I found that I can usually overcome them by hitting "last activity" when the comments won't load. That works most of the time. But I agree, I wish they would fix this, I would hate to see people leave — it's a great community at this point.
And no, I did not know that — had to look it up. So don't give me that look.
Whew! It's good I don't need to worry about you. The whole European success thing makes the above conversation make a lot more sense. I mean, if Hasselhoff can be a big deal over there…
"Why won't these bulls leave me alone?" said the man with the big red cape
You're posting an article about the woman with her title in the headline based on a mention on Today and a bit in EW, both about her kid… and you want to know WHY she's still relelvant?
Yeah, thought I should clarify that before people started talking. . .
Hasselhoff is huge in Germany! Incredible. Even my cousins love him. It came as a great shock to them that I'd never heard him sing — or wanted to.
I suspect Francisco is probably European.
Yikes — she looks like a blond version of Slash from Guns and Roses!
Francisco – I admire your tenacity, your backup with facts and research and your ability to express yourself (though I can't understand for the life of me why you put all that to the service of Madonna). But whoa there – how on earth can ANY one say Madonna and Cyndi 'broke a huge commercial barriers for female solo artists in music'? Excuse me? Does that mean that Tina Turner, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Dionne Warwick and this obscure something called Janis Joplin did NOT? Hon – come on!
I've thought for a long time that 'LCD" is the driving idea behind almost all the liberal doctrine. Don't try to give opportunity to bring everybody up, instead force everyone down to a LCD. Couch it in the language of compassion, egalitarianism or whatever, but there it is.
her daughter is fugly…she looks like an Indian man..
I have reconnected w/ many of the girls, now women, I went to High school with (Class of '74) through facebook, then face to face. And each and everyone of them look terrific. Lovely skin, nice hair, the same beautiful smiles, and very feminine curvaceous figures. Madonna looks like she does now, because she never was much to look at even when she was starting out. Many women's beauty is magnified when they smile. But Madonna is one of those women who when they smile look much less attractive. Shannen Doherty is another that springs to mind. Madonna never had the basic building blocks of beauty. Her popularity and media driven idea of her attractiveness lay in her desire to schock the public by her willingness to portray & debase herself as a promiscuous tramp. Is there any other kind. Putain!
Watch the actual tour video online…. errr..no thanks
and a REAL birth certifictae
and her daughter is still ugly..
yes.. and she looks as Hindu as Gandhi…the girls ugly, folks…
Sounds like a wanna be backup dancer got his panties in a twist.. "oh..you win, you win"..feel better now dearie?
the kid could play NOSFERATU..without much make-up!!
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20162391,00.html
yikes the resemblance is uncanny!!
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20162391,00.html
I believe Mr. Arone is speaking to you, sir.
Back. Off.
Your a meen man, and your stoopid, too. Abraham Lincoln was precedent a long time ago, and Madonna is not from a long time ago. She is still poplar present day. He is ded. You dont get it. Your a maroon. Papa dont preech!
PS: The threads are still a mess. I think a lot of us will hold on because we know the site and have developed friends and genuine dissenters. And it's fun. But the site is not going to develop a following so long as you have to know tricky inside information just to view a post or a reply. I referred a couple of friends to the site, and they gave up. They told me they'd come back when it got fixed. Wonder when and if that will be.
I gotta agree. It's not right to make fun of a kid who is thrust into the limelight without any say in the matter.
she could put a bag over her head..or pluck those wooly mammoth eyebrows..
Speaking about being ugly…
Agreed. JOHN NOLTE, please fix this site so that it works the way it used to!
*sigh* Kabbalah is not Hindu…
Going by your numerous posts, I wonder if you're some self-important NY modeling agency suit or fashion expert that knows they are *the* expert on beauty, since it's a slightly longer stretch that you're being paid by Madonna to convince others to look away.
Fact is, once she grows into those features, she won't look half bad, pretty good looking actually. There was an expression around the shop I'll decline mentioning for about six years.
What she really needs is for people to stop calling her ugly. It'll be a crime against humanity if criticism drives her to get work done and she ends up like Michael Jackson.
I totally and completely disagree with you. Dr. Drew is one of the good guys and his VH1 programs do nothing but remove the glamor from the celebrity party life. They show you in graphic detail what the downside is to relentless celebrity narcissism.
If you want to get a kid to not use drugs, forget all that "just say no"/"get high on life" stuff they feed to kids. Show them the video of Amber Smith gagging herself in the middle of a hallway while detoxing. Show them the video of Steven Adler wander aimlessly through a house while high on heroin. Show them Jeff Conaway anytime he is off his meds.
Yes, the shows are good tv. But, I also find them extremely educational. Furthermore, I would say that they are one of the few advocates in the MSM for the concept of personal responsibility. For that alone, Dr. Drew should be applauded.
Well, kadaka, if you're such a cunning linguist, what would be the correct term?
Oh dear. You may like her music, but devoted to her? Is this some sick fetish thing or are you just nekulturniy?
Why don´t we leave her looks out of it? She ´s just a kid. (Besides, am I the only one who thinks Fran Drescher used to be hot?)
You can´t compare her with Bowie. No way. Except to show up her lack of creativity. Obviously you do not agree with my assessment, but her music is just generic pap, although better than average pap. Always was. Bowie still had occasional flashes of inspiration until very recently.
Hopefully she won't follow her mother's S&M style choices. Let's hope she has a little more class. And, yeah, she is still just a kid.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
With her diet of pine cones, tree bark and squirrel droppings, methinks that if she feeds her children that crap, it is tantamount to child abuse.
sgt, I don't know where you live but here in Miami (no, I am not European) "4 Minutes" still gets radio airplay. It hit #3 in the Billboard Hot 100, and it reached double platinum in the US.
I am a 21-year old male, so I hang out with kids in the 17-25 age group, I can assure you they know "Hung Up." Madonna opened the Grammies with it in 2006, plus if you look it up it was one of the most successful singles in the history of music.
NO. HELL NO. And I'm taking issue with the "used to be."
I feel sorry for little LourdesSkankintraining Whateverherlastnameis. As a former (extremely gangly) twelve year old girl myself, being made fun of because of your looks is rotten enough coming from twelve year old boys, but coming from adults it is just shameful.
I think Madonna is a Harpy and she ought to just pay attention to her kid, and let her be a kid for as long as possible. It makes me sad that she is apparently turning into a Mini-me version of Madonna. And, to hell with that crazy diet.
Gee, I'm all tongue tied…
Gee, I'm all tongue tied…
Okay, okay, we get it – you're a Madonna fan! Why this woman has so many followers when all she has is a little talent and a lot of obscenity (not to mention her constant descrecration of Christianity) is beyond me. But hey, have at it.
I am sorry for her children, raised by such a woman and in such a perverted, twisted environment. I hope they beat the odds and grow up to make something positive of their lives. But with the childhood influences they've had, I don't have much hope for them.
(And yet she wants to collect yet MORE children that aren't even hers, in order to raise them the same way. It sickens me. It sickens me more when people defend her, as happened on a different post.)
Okay, okay, we get it – you're a Madonna fan! Why this woman has so many followers when all she has is a little talent and a lot of obscenity (not to mention her constant descrecration of Christianity) is beyond me. But hey, have at it.
I am sorry for her children, raised by such a woman and in such a perverted, twisted environment. I hope they beat the odds and grow up to make something positive of their lives. But with the childhood influences they've had, I don't have much hope for them.
(And yet she wants to collect yet MORE children that aren't even hers, in order to raise them the same way. It sickens me. It sickens me more when people defend her, as happened on a different post.)
Andrew, your information is sightly incorrect. Madonna had no albums in 2006, her 2005 album "Confessions on a Dancefloor" sold 1,675,000 copies in the US so I don't know where you got your 250,000 number from. You might be confusing it with her DVD/CD release of her tour, and those usually never pass the 500,000 mark no matter what artist. The 2005 album also reached 8 million copies worldwide, in today's age a huge number. ____ Also, Madonna has focused her career this decade FAR more on her tours (which is where she realized she can make more money) than her albums. She hardly promotes her albums anymore, only going to a few shows accross the world when the first single is out and that's it. She hardly makes TV appearances, her music videos (which used to be wonderful as I once considered her the best music video artist out there) are now generic and made on the cheap. The internet has affected her music sales (like any other artist), she knows people still listen to her music, only online. She knows that the concert tour is what gives her the edge now, hence her multi-million dollar deal with Live Nation (do you think they would have signed her up if she was fading?).
Also sightly incorrect, Madonna disses and loves to offend Catholics, not Christians.
Don't get me wrong, I am aware there were successful women before Madonna and Cyndi who also broke barriers (Don't forget Donna Summer), but they did break barriers in the 80s. Like a Virgin was the first album by a female artist to break the 5 million mark in the US and Madonna was the first woman to play stadium tours with her 1987 concert tour.
Erm… the Canadian police event was real. It was widely reported by the press in 1990.
I am a Christian, though not Catholic. But when someone puts themselves on a cross like she did, it is extremely offensive, regardless of that slight technical difference.
This is a woman who spits in the face of anything that is good and decent, especially when it comes to God. If you choose to admire her for her blasphemy, that is your choice. I will call it what it is – an offense before man and God Himself. She will answer for it someday. Hopefully she will repent and ask for forgiveness for it before that time.
Madonna is a world icon, hardly just in Europe. She sells out concerts nearly anywhere she goes in the world, focuses her career in other places and not just the US. She's no longer an US-only icon, you can say that.
Madonna is a world icon, hardly just in Europe. She sells out concerts nearly anywhere she goes in the world, focuses her career in other places and not just the US. She's no longer an US-only icon, you can say that.
She was never the most beautiful woman in the world but she was attractive. The late 80s was her peak, she looks amazing in the Like a Prayer video (a hotter version of Kate Winslet), the Papa Don't Preach video (she pulled off the short hair very well), and she looks amazing in Shanghai Surprise sporting a classic 40s Hollywood star look. A shame about the film and her acting in it though.
I am not religious (So I was never offended by her shock antics) but I think if there is a God, he has far more evil people out there to worry about than a singer hanging herself from a cross.
Also, believe it or not (and this isn't even a defence this Madonna would not like what I am about to write), Madonna's lifestyle is nowhere near as wild as she wants you to believe. For example in the early 90s she published the SEX book with S&M fantasy pictures when in real life she was never into S&M. She also would hang around with Naomi Campbell and Sandra Benhard so people would assume they were having lesbian affairs, but her brother claims she's never had sex with women.
Much like David Bowie, she would pretend to be bisexual to get more gay fans. Also, she has a strict anti-drug policy not only socially but in tours as well. She fired her brother for taking cocaine and he wasn't even addicted to it. She wouldn't like people to know more about this I tell you.
(It seems the commenting section is not working properly at all these days, so I'm having to put my response to your last post here.)
Wow, you seem to know more about Madonna than anyone I've ever seen. Hey, knock yourself out. If people want to follow and defend this woman and her vile antics, have at it. I will not hestitate to speak out about her disgusting behavior. I want nothing to do with her. I'd love to see how she explains and justifies her perversions and obscenity to her children. Can you imagine the questions? "Mommy, you did… what?"
Those poor kids, growing up knowing their mother is such a slut. Disgusting. I can't imagine that conversation.
Madonna is becoming a freak along the lines of Michael Jackson, although she doesn't have near his talent.
As to Lourdes, with a Mom like that, who will be surprised when she grows up to be a narcissistic media hog.
Be fair, it´s not a crime to be a Madonna fan. I find it just slightly distasteful but then I listen to some pretty weird stuff myself. Her looks didn´t matter to me back in the 80s so why should they matter now.
I've never been a fan of Madonna's music. Her voice is too thin and whiny. Her greatest talent is her ability to reinvent herself again and again and remain in the public eye, not that I think that is necessarily a good thing. That being said, the remarks criticizing her daughter's looks are really out of line. Come on, she's a little girl.
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