Fox’s ‘24′ – Jack apologizes for saving the world
by Christian TotoLooks like Fox’s “24″ may have jumped the ideological shark.
The show, featuring Kiefer Sutherland as the terrorist-hunting Jack Bauer, returns after a long absence Sunday night (8 p.m. EST). “24″ delights right-leaners by showing an American hero battling terrorists without apology.
November’s “24: Redemption,” a Fox TV movie designed to set up the new season, threw a bone to conservative viewers by openly mocking a UN official.
This weekend, though, Jack does some serious navel gazing.
SanDiego.com’s Robert P. Laurence reports a few juicy quotes from Jack during this weekend’s first episode.
“It’s better that everything comes out in the open,” he says. “We’ve done so many things in the name of protecting this country, we’ve created two worlds. Ours and the people’s we’ve promised to protect. They deserve to hear the truth and decide how far they want to let us go.”
Let’s not write off “24″ before seeing the quotes in their full context. But it’s clearly a sign the producers are trying to adapt to a new political reality.
But will audiences respond to a kinder, gentler Jack? That approach might generate a few new fans, but it could turn off those who saw “24″ as that rare Hollywood product that took the threat of terrorism seriously – and didn’t feel the need to rationalize taking extreme measures to protect the innocent.
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Relax – I do get to torture and ice Janeane Garofalo. Hey, she’s been torturing us for years.
I’m gonna need a hacksaw.
I don’t think it’s going to be as bad as I’d been led to believe from current reports. The opening scenes looks as though Jack is telling a congress man to shove it because hey, he’s made decisions that saved people, and because the government couldn’t make those decisions with their deviatingic and their philosophies of non action, while Jack did.
I’ll reserve judgment until Hour 12
weird deviatingic is not a word lol, nor did I type that in. I meant to say “bloviating” which spell check says is not of word. Maybe I’m just jacked
We’ll probably watch Jack Bauer going around saying, “I’m sorry! I’m sorry! Please forgive me while I do this!” while chasing or interrogating terrorists. I’m looking forward to seeing Jack Bauer giving an accomplice a nice, cold glass of water and saying, “Answer my question or I won’t give you a glass of water to drink!”
I was pleasantly surprised by Redemption’s skewering of the feckless UN guy, who was both arrogant and a traitorous coward. The last season was like a parody of a season of 24, things had gotten stale at the ol’ CTU so they need to shake out the cobwebs and change things up a bit. Hope and change, even.
“24″ is the best television show ever made, in my humble opinion. When I watch the reruns, I will sit on the edge on my seat in suspense, even though I’ve seen the episode I’m watching a dozen times.
My guess is that during this 7th day Tony will start off as an enemy but later it will be revealed that he was operating under top-secret and/or special circumstances, and that he was on our side all along but had to make the enemy think that he was working for them. I mean, that IS the “24″ way, right?
With Leon Panetta running the CIA, Jack will soon be apologizing to the terrorists for having to ask them what their name is.
This is one of the last tv shows I bother to watch anymore. they better not have libbed it up.
Think there’ll be some waterboarding? Would really like to see how long it takes to break a person.
Maybe TSA could supply an 86 year old American grandmother they yanked outta line at the airport security line (while letting the terriorist-looking types pass on thru).
Kick a$$ JACK!
Creator, Joel Surnow, is no longer with the show. That’s enough bad news for me.
The question I have is the new female President a Republican? Palmer was a dem followed by the quickly dead Republican President and the Evil Republican President. Palmer Jr. was elected I assume also a dem and his VP took over and was defeated it appears by the new Madam President. So is she a Republican? And will she be evil or soon dead?
Perhaps they should be bold and have Jack take a stand and refuse to do something (like torture or listening in or whatever) and then show the repercussions (a destroyed city for example). That could be truly powerful.
Oh please don’t screw up 24! Last season was awful, but I’m willing to give it another chance. PLEASE! Give us our Jack.
“Has Jack stopped being JACK?” This is the sort of report that attracts attention for the show. That makes it smart. Good for them. That kind of intelligence would tend to avoid wrecking what makes the character so successful. (”But,” as Gary Oldman delivered the line, “I’ve been wrong before.”)
I haven’t seen anything, but I’d expect something along the lines of, “Yes, I did all of that. And since you are all sitting here pretending that these kinds of actions aren’t needed, let me explain to you a how the world out there works and the human costs of doing things your way …” I’m not a faithful watcher, but as I understand it they guy has been on the run, held in a Red Chinese prison, and scraping by on a tour of Third World hellholes. In between, he plunges through bursts of terrible violence and massive threats to the nation. What are they going to do to intimidate him? How likely would he be to repent?
It could be the producers are tacking to a more liberal audience, but this is an action/suspense series. Despite the criticism, it even does well with the Euros.
I’d be more inclined to fear Janeane Garofalo’s presence. I hear they are considering a spinoff: “24: UN Roundtable” where each season has Jeanine as “Special Under Assistant for the Deputy Assistant to the Assistant Deputy to the US Special Envoy for Cap and Trade, Agent Irene Hunter,” a fully licensed master of “tough diplomacy,” who finds herself trapped each season for 24 hours in a particularly troublesome elevator also holding various authorized representatives from countries hostile to the US. “With nowhere else to go, everyone is finally at the table!”
In the Age of Obama, how can it miss?
People still watch this nonsense “24″? The agenda-driven first season with its anti-White messages and Keiffer’s girly shrill while waving his gun around convinced me I had better things to do with my time.
What a great idea this is; for those in Hollywood that have a set to have a place to congregate and converse, etc. About time.
As far as Jack Bauers…Mr. Panetta needs to immediately issue about 500 Jack Bauers, turn our boys in Delta Force loose in Afghanistan to root out that mongrel, Bin Ladin and then we can all come home and sit on the front porch, sipping a cold one with our feet propped up in the air.
Jack Bauer for president.
Is Terry for real?
TimNGIC – January 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
“As far as Jack Bauers…Mr. Panetta needs to immediately issue about 500 Jack Bauers, turn our boys in Delta Force loose in Afghanistan to root out that mongrel, Bin Ladin and then we can all come home and sit on the front porch, sipping a cold one with our feet propped up in the air.”
What would the elites gain from that? Homeland Security should be disbanded and the CIA should be prevented from operating in the US, if at all. Secrecy is not conducive to democracy.
Stephanie – January 7th, 2009 at 9:38 am
“Is Terry for real?”
What part is confusing you?
In the previews he is asked to apologize about torturing a suspect by a Senator and says no. He also reminds the two FBI agents in another preview to forget the rules, when one of them comes back and says the rules make us better. Jack sets him straight. So please can we stop the knit picking. This show still has a conservative tilt.
Stephanie,
“Terry” is just some stupid punk who lives in his/her mom’s basement who snuck upstairs to get on the computer while mommy and daddy are at work. His/Her severe acne and her/his fondness for picking her/his nose in public keep him/her from enjoying life, so he/she logs onto neo-nazi websites and watches muslim videos on Youtube all day. Her/His mind is so totally gone that (s)he has to spend his/her time picking fights with random people on comment pages in order to feel superficially good about him/her self.
Interesting how “Terry” picked a unisexual moniker, isn’t it? Perhaps “Terry” is both. Either way, “Terry” needs a lot of help.
Charles,
You’re right. That’s the kind of stuff that makes “24″ an island of sane adventure in a cesspool of liberal TV programming.
Charles – January 7th, 2009 at 9:43 am
“In the previews he is asked to apologize about torturing a suspect by a Senator and says no. He also reminds the two FBI agents in another preview to forget the rules, when one of them comes back and says the rules make us better. Jack sets him straight. So please can we stop the knit picking. This show still has a conservative tilt.”
Not the way I see it. Conservatives loathe and fear government and rightfully so – just as the Founding Fathers did. This show is propaganda for a Soviet-style nanny state. Secrecy in government is not compatible with democracy. Just think about it.
I thought I saw a clip where Jack says he would never apologize for his actions …
Anyway … Many Cota is still producing the show, and he’s a conservative, so maybe there’s still a chance.
Watch “The Unit” then for unapologetic, effective combat. Created by David Mamet, who recently wrote that he was “…no longer a brain-dead liberal”, the most recent episode had one of the Unit members advise a DOD lackey that another Unit member considered him “…lower than Jane Fonda”. My internal ‘Cheer’ meter went to the top!
Let’s make a show about a rogue KGB agent that goes around breaking the law in order to advance mother Russia and line his own pockets.
I love the old shoot ‘em in the kneecap Jack. If they’ve softened him too much it will be disappointing. It could be worse, they could bring his daughter back.
If Jack gets too soft, just watch The Unit.
Jack Bauer certainly should apologize…The last season was torture.
“If Jack gets too soft, just watch The Unit.”
I think the big government types have realized they can tap in to the same low-brow entertainment form of propaganda to advance fascism like the way “The Godfather” movies made criminals look “cool.”
“Conservatives loathe and fear government” WRONG. That would be anarchists and many of their loopy “libertarian” cousins.
Conservatives recognize the need for government. But that would be limited government. Where that limit lies is at the heart of the political debate.
“just as the Founding Fathers did.” WRONG. The founding fathers did not LOATHE government. They established government in the name of the people. See above for explanation of the tension between liberty and government.
Truly absurdist assertions.
Terry,
Jack and his allies expose the conspiracies, but sometimes secrets are necessary. Sometimes the rules such as Obama would have us follow with captured terrorist don’t work. Rules mean nothing when you are in a life and death struggle. And in one day 24 presents that to its’ viewers.
Jack don’t go soft on me now!
I love ‘24′ because Jack never apologizes for anything he does to protect the nation. And the quote seems to be a prelude to a big reveal of the many times Jack had to save the nation, thus confirming the necessity of torture and extreme measures.
This hope and change crap will be off-putting for us fans.
Jack Bauer – January 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
“They established government in the name of the people.”
Karl Marx did that. There are some subtle differences that are important that you are not getting. The Founders recognized that INDIVIDUALS are the sovereigns, NOT government, and that individuals lend power to the government.
The way you state it leaves it open for anyone to do anything in the name of the people (as they interpret.) This is the very basis of tyranny.
What I say stands.
24 has been a fun show. Like it or hate it. Season 6 was not so bad. Season 7 seems queued up nicely. Jack Bauer now apologizing seems par for the Liberal Season we are now in. America the Worst. Everything bad about our Country spread like wildfire to the rest of the world. We feel “entitled” to use torture. Some people have bought into the notion that we should not be able to defend ourselves because we are so strong. In every context on 24 the “torture” was required, albeit fiction. Reality is based handled by professionals. If President Obama is faced with the question, would allow torture techniques on a known terrorist in order to gain security for our people, would he reject based upon his ideology. Let’s hope not. The other truth never reported, is that we follow the Geneva Convention more than any other nation on the Earth. Yet the argument is framed, that we use torture absurdly. The true feelings on the deep left are of self-destruction and they do not deserve a voice in our politic. If you don’t start from a ProAmerican view, and you believe -we are the bad guy. Your opinion really does not matter-even if you are my fellow Countryman. Politics and Activism are great, but defending America is better. Too bad if you don’t get it.
I read an article in the WSJ where the producers stated that this season would actually be a defense of Jack’s methods. Hope that proves true!
Please don’t run a post until you’ve seen the entire episode. It stinks of lazy journalism.
I have to agree with Terry on one point. The first 24 season had white Serbian terrorists, as I recall. That is so far from reality and insulting to me (I’m 1/2 Serb) that I dismissed the show and have refused to watch it ever since. Now NCIS, while mostly a crime-solving show, does often deal with terrorism and the terrorists are almost always Muslim Islamists, which is the reality in life. Mark Harmon and his team kick terrorist a__ with no apologies and I love that show for it. To show that are realistic, there is an occasional Muslim good guy, too, as there is in real life. I also love how there is so much pride in the Navy and Marines that is demonstrated by Harmon’s character (a retired Marine). I think it must reflect feelings of respect personally held by Harmon.
Janeane Garofalo (or however you spell her name) is on the show? Glad I don’t watch it. She’s pitifully unfunny and a lousy actress to boot. And I would say ugly, too, but I won’t, because I don’t want to be mean.
Anna,
The Serbs in the first season of 24 were out for revenge as well against Jack for a mission he preformed against them.It is more a personal grudge then anything else. From someone who is German I don’t get bent out of shape when we are displayed in the role of a bad guy because it is a story. To Europeans are off limits to commit acts of terrorism is absurd. Remember it is a story. Now I like NCIS as well, but it can in no way compare to 24. 24 is a thrill ride.
Charles – the reason Whites are chosen as the bad guy (with a Black President, to boot) is in order to push an anti-White agenda. According to the American entertainment media, Blacks and J3ws never commit crimes – it is easier to portray Whites as evil because Whites are not allowed to organized and fight the defamation of their race.
Then why is every other season basically Muslim terrorists running a muk? Jeez you guys need to stop reading so much into this stuff. You sound like the freaks who into Nostradamus.
Oh yea and if you guys bother to read Bill Gertz or John Batchelor you will know the Russians, white people the last time I checked, is spying on us like crazy, want to see us dead, and are the new masters of Syria and Iran.
Being an avid 24 fan, I’m salivating for the new season to begin. I’m going to reserve judgement until after Monday night. I’ll have 4 episodes to gauge how much it’s changed. I’ve read that they totally revamped the show>no CTU, etc. But, that was to be expected. Having watched all 6 seasons twice, it needs some new blood. Just don’t go way off base…
Charles – January 7th, 2009 at 11:34 am
“Russians, white people the last time I checked,”
Check again. Many current “Israelis” migrated from Russia, so that should tell you something.
Terry,
What is Putin and Medvedev. The Russians and their allies are the biggest threat and no one puts them on the screen. Your point means nothing as the threat comes from the Kremlin not Tel Avi. So please peddle your anti-semtisim somewhere else.
“Say it ain’t so Jack!”
Charles-January 7th 11:32 am
Charles, do your homework before you spout off. The Russians WERE the bad guys season before last. You racists crack me up.
Charles – January 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am
“What is Putin and Medvedev. The Russians and their allies are the biggest threat and no one puts them on the screen. Your point means nothing as the threat comes from the Kremlin not Tel Avi.”
Well, we are wasting our resources supporting Israel and creating enemies for ourselves that would otherwise not exist IN ADDITION to the ones like Russia. We are pushing the Arabs right in to the arms of China whereas we would have allies there instead. Then we will have a powerful China and Russia AND a Muslim world that hates us. We will be left with a parasite nation of Israel that does nothing but stab us in the back. That isn’t a rational trade-off.
From 24: Redemption, he seemed like the old Jack, just more seasoned and caring for the children he encountered in the storyline.
Here’s hoping the character never wusses out.
Connie,
The Russians were a tool for the real players, Jack’s brother so please.
I’ll withhold judgment ’til the shows start to roll.
Terry, you don’t live in a democracy…you never have. No US citizen ever has. The United States is a Representative Republic. Look up the definitions of both terms. The Founding Fathers feared a democracy because they knew it wouldn’t work in the long run. A republic is the better form of government but we have some in Washington who have been working hard to change it, and I’m talking about the Legislative Branch. Conservatives don’t loathe government, they just want it smaller and less obtrusive in people’s lives.
Kick a$$, Jack!!!!
The worst thing about Redemption was that Jack was carrying a Glock, instead of his trusty HK USP. Hopefully they’ll reverse that mistake in the season.
Personally I love 24, although I wouldn’t mind seeing Jack turn a bit more anti-government than he has been in the past. He should be fighting for liberty and I’d like to see at least some commentary on the oppression of the United States government against its own people. Now that Jack’s persona non grata within the DOJ, maybe we’ll get to see his eyes open a little.
Farbar – January 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
“Terry, you don’t live in a democracy…you never have.”
I’m aware of the distinction – tell Bush next time you are talking to him. He doesn’t seem to get it – saying we support “democracy” in other countries.
We’ve moved more towards a democracy and the result has been fewer *rights.*
“Conservatives don’t loathe government, they just want it smaller and less obtrusive in people’s lives.”
Why would they want it smaller unless it is a bad thing?
We love Jack Bauer precisely because he is/was NOT politically correct. Jack does what’s necessary not what’s popular. He does what panty waist Homeland Security would never dream of doing
24 Redemption sucked with it’s hollywoodish politically correct undertones. We know Jack has a heart- he’s always doing the right thing -not the moral relativist thing. But we don’t have to see Jack feeling guilty about his past and taking time out to plant lima beans for Palestinians or building houses and contemplating a future life ala Jimmy Carter.
Jack must continue to kick ass and take names later. That’s why we love Jack. If Jack goes soft 24 will come to an end.
Yes, without Joel Surnow at the helm for the first time, 24 has morphed into just another left-leaning Hollywood POS. It always galled Sutherland — a super-liberal — that his biggest success came in a show in which he had to play a guy who would do anything to protect the country. Now with Surnow (a conservative) off the show, and Keifer having enough pull (ironically thanks to 24) to start putting his hands on the wheel, the show will begin apologizing for its formula. Need any further proof? They cast Janeane Garofalo.
“We’ve done so many things in the name of protecting this country, we’ve created two worlds. Ours and the people’s we’ve promised to protect. They deserve to hear the truth and decide how far they want to let us go.”
We already have told them our decision. Kick-ass Jack had high ratings and liberal wimp Jack had lower ratings with many threats to abandon the show. The producers already have their answer to that question.
steadyrock – January 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
“The worst thing about Redemption was that Jack was carrying a Glock, instead of his trusty HK USP. Hopefully they’ll reverse that mistake in the season.”
Agreed. But I think the Glock was just something lying around- not his.
I doubt Jack Bauer would choose a Glock, when better tools are available.
But in case the baloon REALLY goes up in the next 24 Day, and concealability is not an issue, Jack should consider switching to the HK USP .45 fullsize.
*****
I hope the 24 producers have not abandoned us. A Limbaugh cameo would dispell such rumors….
chuck norris is hoping jack has gone soft so he can replace him on ‘24′
(heh)
seriously though, i don’t believe it. ‘24′ knows who their fanbase is.
I rented “24: Redemption” and on the DVD there’s the first 20 minutes or so of the first hour. I sure didn’t get the impression that Jack’s gone all warm and fuzzy. In fact, he berates a senator (excellently played by Kurtwood Smith, btw) and essentially tells him (and I’m paraphrasing) “Hey, douchebag, don’t get all high and mighty on me and CTU. I wouldn’t do anything differently if I had the chance.”
Terry? How about someone lob rockets into your yard. Hey all it will do is tear up your ivy and weeds and scare the crap out of your dog. Just rockets. Thousands of them. How long before you call the cops? A couple of rockets? A dozen or so? How about sending someone over to where they are launching them from and ask them to stop. Ask them what you can do to make them change their minds? Ask them what you did to them that so offended them that they resorted to firing rockets at you. They don’t like your landscaping? Your dog? You? Your heritage? What? In the meantime, some of these rockets are getting close enough to break your windows. Call the cops? Call a few glass places for quotes? What is your peace and liberty worth to you? Say you call the cops. They can’t locate the site of the rocket launchers. Or maybe it’s out of their jurisdiction. What now? Go after them yourself? Nope, not you. After reading your posts, my guess is that you would just move away. But don’t worry. They will follow you like a bully in a schoolyard. They will stop only when their ability to launch is gone and gone forever. They cannot be ‘persuaded’ to quit only ’stopped’ young Terry. Two tours in Vietnam taught me that. Remove their ability to terrorize and they will talk. Absolutely no other way. My soapbox is closed.
I’m just watching for Annie Wersching….She’s the new FBI agent.
She’s Hot.
Seriously…Janeane Garofalo?
The best work she ever did, as a puppet, was get her head blown off in Team America: World Police.
Redemption sucked. Jack doesn’t need redemption. I’ll watch to see if this gets better, but there is little hope without Surnow at the helm.
The producers need to read Vince Flynn.
Yes. Mr. Stay Puft they do. It would probably skeer them though.
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Here’s what Jack Bauer and George W. Bush have in common, folks: NEITHER ONE has to “apologize” for anything because neither one has allowed a successful attack on U.S. soil since they started kicking asses and taking names. Both are hated by the left not because of their political leanings, pronouncements, or even their methods–they are hated because they SUCCEED in stopping the badguys that the left not-so-secretly loves so well.
HK, Glock, or hacksaw—Jack Bauer is not about the tools…but about the will to use them. Let’s hope somebody in charge in D.C. for the next 4 years has those kind of cojones…’cause otherwise we’ll all begin every “episode” of our lives during that period with this voice-over sentence: “The Name Of My CIA Director Is Leon Panetta…And These Will Be The Longest Days Of Our Lives.”
Kerplink…kerplink….kerplink….kerplink…..
Out of context, I have no trouble with this quote. I don’t know if he’s defiant or resigned, but essentially I see it as “ok, this is what we do to keep people safe. Tell them. Let them decide if they want us to keep doing it or not.” The politics of the piece will be played out not in Bauer’s words, but in how the people respond and, more importantly, whether Jack is actually able to keep the world safe with cuddles.
Janeane Garofalo? Why? If Jack goes lib on us, 24 will lose viewers, and I’m sure they know that.
Like others, I’ll reserve judgment until the new season gets underway.
Can’t wait for it to get started, it’s been a long time coming!
Jack Bauer rocks!
The new president is indeed a Republican. The presidential terms go something like this:
Term 1: David Palmer (D)
…who actually completes a single term as President (albeit temporarily incapacitated by an assassination attempt at the end of Day 2.) He’s specifically identified as a Democrat at some point on Day One, which I believe is the only explicit party ID of the series. The rest follow from that revelation. Palmer runs for re-election, but cancels his re-election campaign after a Presidential Debate on Day 3. Which would certainly be messy for the Democratic Party, one would think, and his debate opponent goes on to become president.
Term 2: John Keeler (R) –> Charles Logan (R) –> Hal Gardner (R)
Keeler is incapacitated on Day 4 after Air Force One is shot down. Apparently, he was originally supposed to be killed then, but someone thought that would be “too distressing” or somesuch. (Note that even without an actual “kill,” and despite dying at the end of the day, Habib Marwan becomes the most successful terrorist of *24*, and would no doubt be a revered real-life martyr in the circles that do such things.)
Keeler’s succeeded by his VP, Charles “Worst President Ever” Logan. I think it’s ambiguous whether he merely finishes out Keeler’s term or runs and wins the next election, but he’s President on Day 5. And resigns on Day 5, his VP Hal Gardner presumed to take over after the Day.
Term 3: Wayne Palmer (D), AKA “Palmer the Lesser” –> Noah Daniels (D)
Palmer is President on Day 6, but critically injured in an assassination attempt. Apparently, he doesn’t recover sufficiently to resume his Presidential duties, as Daniels is president on the Inauguration Day of…
Term 4: Allison Taylor (R)
who defeats Daniels, and apparently even survives her Inauguration Day!
Note that Daniels and Taylor seem to go a bit “against type” party-wise, as Daniels is quite hawkish, and Taylor is characterized by “idealism.”
Rush just said he already watched the first four episodes and that they do not disappoint! YES! Jack is back and we Conservatives still have a television hero!
I did not like last season. I thought they blew a lot of great opportunities and wimped out on others. But I’ve already got my Tivo set to record it. I missed Redemption, but the UN and NGOs deserve a good talking back to.
I also heard Rush yesterday say that he has already watched the first 4 hours and that we won’t be disappointed. It is only on his recommendation that I am willing to give the show another chance and watch it on Sunday and Monday nights. If I even see a hint of that sappy, touchy-feely, girly-man nonsense like 24’s last season of “chick flicks”, I’m outta there.
Ha, Sue Denim. Nice 24 universe Presidential history.
One addendum. Though the sleazeball wimp Logan had an “R,” after his name, Surnow clearly modelled hom on Democrat John Kerry.
I mean, they even named Logan after Kerry hometown airtport in Boston.
How subtle is that!
I wrote of “24″ as soon as I heard Geneanne Garafalo was going to be on it.
Though some of you make very good points you are missing one major point. Jack is not suppose to have a political agenda, whether or not the show does. Obviously Jack being questioned infront of a committee about the way in which he has questioned terrorist suspects, reflects what is currently happening in our country with Obama coming into office. The big question is, How does Jack react? He has never done something for a political agenda, but rather for America. He does what he needs to do because it is the right thing to do, it is how he has saved so many lives. Last, we are not better than the terrorists as much as just plain different. We do not believe that taking other peoples lives for the sake of different religious or political views as they do. We do what we need to in order to protect this country. As far as torture I do not think it is always the answer but it has proven to work especially in the case of uncovering the plot to blowup the Brooklyn Bridge. I will post the link if people would like, but if you do not know about this plot and how it was discovered and stopped, it was a crazy story(real life).
Christian – Good to know that we have two Coloradans writing here at BH (you and Jos. Lindsey.)
BH breaks away from the Coasts! Woo-hoo.
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The way I understand it… Joel Surnow was involved in the first 8 episodes of this season before he quit. There was apparently much debate about the torture issue and the network and factions within the show were pushing to have a more “politically correct” program. Surnow might have just had enough and left. So far it’s been enjoyable, but I’m expecting the season to turn to the left after we get through the 8 Surnow-influenced episodes. I hope not, but we’ll see.
24 is in my opinion one of the best tv series ever. Please don’t ruin it by bringing the left wing agenda into it.
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