California Govt. Targets Child Actors
by Chuck DeVoreWith California swimming in $24 billion of red ink, many of the peoples’ elected representatives are seeking to raise scores of fees and taxes to close the gap. So, after voting to raise the highest income tax in America even higher, the highest state sales tax rate in America even higher, almost doubling the car tax, and cutting the child tax credit by $200, Sacramento Democrats now want to charge children $100 a year to work in Hollywood.
A 10-year-old California law makes parents of children desiring to work in the entertainment field gather information from one part of government to present to another part of government to obtain a permission slip to work. Now, this paper shuffle adds little to nothing of value – no added safety for children or oversight of employers. But, rather than terminate this self-perpetuating paperwork drill, Democrats what to charge for it – taxing minors who want to work before they even work an hour.
This Kafkaesque scenario is almost reality in the form of Assembly Bill 402 (AB 402) in Sacramento. As summarized by the Assembly Republican Caucus bill analysis, AB 402, “Requires a fee of $50 to be submitted at the time a minor applies for an Entertainment Work Permit in order to offset the costs of administering the Entertainment Work Permit program.” In other words, AB 402 is the ultimate in self-sustaining bureaucracy. You need government permission to work and the government will only give you permission if you pay for it.
The stated purpose of the bill, curiously supported by the Screen Actors Guild, is to increase protections for children working in the entertainment industry. The main intended protection is to ensure compliance with the Coogan Act, a 1999 law designed to set aside a portion of a minor’s earnings until age 18.
The problem with existing practice is that the California State Industrial Relations Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement (DLSE) doesn’t perform any follow up for the Entertainment Work Permits they issue to children. In fact, until last year, Entertainment Work Permits didn’t even have a tracking number on them. This meant they could easily be spoofed by parents not wanting to go through the effort of coordinating with their child’s school to obtain a proof of school attendance, adequate grades, and health records then schlepping down to the local Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement office to get an Entertainment Work Permit. Now that Entertainment Work Permits have serial numbers, it is not at all clear that the numbers really mean anything as there is no way to tie into a database anyway (and why should they when about 12 percent of all the Social Security numbers reported by employers to California tax agencies are false or stolen).
AB 402 might make sense if the government was spending a lot of money to actually follow up “for the children,” but the whole Entertainment Work Permit program only costs $1.1 million a year while the proposed fee would raise $3 million a year.
Fortunately, the studios and talent managers appear to have matters well in hand. My own daughters have worked as extras for the past year. Our family’s experience shows the industry to be highly conscientious. Further, the studios hire and have credentialed teachers on site to ensure that minors doing “background work” are diligently doing school work between shooting scenes.
Lisa Santillan runs STUDIO KIDS Management and specializes in advising and guiding talent for studios who need it. Ms. Santillan observes, “The Labor Board rarely verifies grades, proper schools, (or) date of birth” while, she notes, it often takes eight weeks to receive a response from the bureaucracy.
Ms. Santillan opposes AB 402 for a number of reasons. She says the proposed fee for an Entertainment Work Permit would imply that the Labor Board was guaranteeing work as if they were an employment agency, when, in fact, the fee guarantees nothing of the sort. She also notes that many families applying for work permits are lower income and single parent households. Ms. Santillan’s commonsense suggestion for the California Legislature, “…the work permit should be abolished completely” as it has “…never proven to be a positive enforced document.” She concludes by saying, “I do not believe charging a fee is the answer to our economy’s financial crisis through attacking the workingman or, in this case, minor child.” Ms. Santillan also points out that a typical background extra works only a couple times in a six month period, if that, and makes only $130.00 day. Take away Social Security, disability, FICA, Agent fee, 15% into the Coogan account, gas, clothing, and now the proposed $50.00 fee for work permit and there won’t be much leftover.
Short of abolishing the Entertainment Work Permit, Republicans have suggested an alternative solution would be to obtain the permits through the studio teachers who already maintain the paperwork. The minor could still be required to bring their school verification form to the prospective employer, with the studio teacher verifying their grades, attendance and health, to comply with existing law. Ms. Santillan would rather see the permits processed through the minor’s own public or private schools as is the case for other types of employment.
AB 402 passed out of the Assembly Appropriations Committee on May 28 on a 12-5 vote, with all Democrats voting for the tax on child actors and all Republicans voting against it. It comes up for a vote in the full Assembly in the first week of June.
[Ed. note: This piece was updated late Monday morning with additional information.]







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The Government charging taxpayers to make sure they cover the cost to tax, taxpayers? I think that's what I read.
Glad to see that California politicans are busy moving around the deck chairs. What iceberg?
I think the time has come to leave the deed to California on Mexico's doorstep, ring the bell, and run.
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Actually, if you simply ceded San Francisco (Nancy Pelosi's district included) to Mexico, that might just solve a great deal of our problems.
Senorita Pelosi it is!
Of course, she'll have to give up her job now that she's not a legal US citizen anymore. . . What a shame.
Since when does being a legal citizen in the US matter anymore, AP? I mean really, really…
It means you get the esteemed honor of being taxed until death and then a little beyond that. The currently evolving class of "under-documented citizen" as found in Kalifornia does not receive such a noted distinction.
Sure, why not sell out LawHawk? With friends like you…
I thought it said they will start charging for still doing nothing, thus you will be paying something for nothing, which is par for the course with this Administration.
He'll be fine. He's gotten in contact with some sort of "Underground Railroad" that smuggles conservatives out of California.
We're going to have to make it matter, or we'll have Californians sneaking across the boarder looking for government cheese in the border states — like Oregon.
Hey, we do fine Tillamook cheddar up here in Oregon. Plus we already have plenty of displaced Californians who are infecting us with the same politics that destroyed their former homes.
When government gets big enough, it turns into a ravenous monster with insatiable hunger; thy name is Larfleeze, Agent Orange: Avarice, the color of greed.
President Obama wants the United States to model itself after the bankrupt California.
Chuck, perhaps you can answer this for me.
How is it that the voters in California overwhelmingly rejected those recent budget propositions that were negotiated by our elected State's representatives? Exactly who are our representatives representing?
Ahhh. God bless the Midwest!
Mr. Price, I rather think that Hawk would be amused to left in place as a sort of Resistance movement. I can see him sneaking into San Fran Nan's office and leaving her a gift on the desk. That being said, makes me happy to be living in Nevada where we still respect the Second Amendment.
Wolverine!
cant we just charge lawmakers $10 every time they waste our money ? That should seal the gapss
Yes, notice my moniker.
But I thought all dems cared about children and evil homophobic, close-minded, racist, sexist, bigoted, prudish, and other people with antiquated; archaic values like believing in a sky magician were the ones that didn't. I don't understand.
Reality =/= what we're told! O_O
A perfect example of why the least gubment is the best gubment.
Jacking the fee up is ridiculous, and the bill to do so should be soundly defeated.
But doing away with the permit from the state is equally asinine.
Letting the teachers issue the paperwork would be like letting a contractor issue his own license and check his own permits.
As a nominal check of right to work, the answer is to continue the state's role, or if they're serious about raising the fee, then they should start doing spot checks and checking grades, attendance, etc.
The industry IS *generally* conscientious, but I can tell a plethora of horror stories to match.
The kids in "Twilight Zone: The Movie" weren't killed because they were in such a conscientiously-monitored safe working environment, now did they?
Very funny but not exactly what I was thinking of. Something a bit well let's just say gamy in nature.
Aesop, this paperwork drill has nothing at all to do with workplace safety. It only has to do with ensuring that Coogan trust funds are deposited in the child's name and that their grades and health are adequate to work — none of which actually gets checked by the Dept. of Labor. This bill amounts to paying for nothing — a bureaucracy tax to fund the bureaucracy, if you will.
Omigod! I leave for a couple of hours, and come back to find that I've been handed over to Mexico. I would call my friends at the underground railroad in Arizona and Nevada, but every time I pick up the phone, I hear funny clicking sounds. Does that mean something?
The California Franchise Board never ever stops trying to squeeze more money out of the taxpayers.
I received a letter on saturday saying I owed $110+ which included interest from what they say I owed for the 2007 tax year.
Lucky I keep records since they have been sending me letters since 2001
I sent them a copy of the check and the W2 form showing I had already paid. I have been thru this with them several times.
They are like those that send bills to large companies for "office supplies" that were never ordered. They figure some will pay just to stop the hassle. Keep records!
They'll never figure out who I am, either. They won't even see me coming. I speak perfect Spanish. I am now headed to City Hall, but first I have to change my uniformo before I get into my trucko with my gunno and hound doggo.
First, el dumpo. Then, el boomo!
Can we make the day she is demoted from the speakership a national holiday? We can all get together, shoot off fireworks and replay the Munchkin "Witch is dead" song from the Wizard of Oz over and over.
California is broke and desperate…this is a cheap shot at child actors, but the truth is it can be absorbed by a day of extra work (Central Casting pays a minor about $175.00 for an 8-hour day; minors 9-15 can only work a 9 1/2 hour day so while it's nickel and dime-ing, it's quite frankly a minor addition on top of agent's fees, headshots, clothes, etc.). If you consider that entering showbiz is a pretty frivolous pursuit, this doesn't get my dander up too much. Now, if they start closing Griffith Park–this chick heads for the warpath!
Ken: We had some fun kicking California around for its insolvency yesterday and on May 20 over at http://commentarama.blogspot.com/. Take a look, and join in the fun of piling on the Governator and the state legislature. Since you and I live in California, we have to keep our sense of humor or we'll end up spending our days at the crying academy.
Actually, my idea was to use you as a subversive resistance. Sorry, didn't think you would mind.
Suspect supported killing abortion providers, friends say
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In the rear window of the 1993 blue Ford Taurus that he was driving was a red rose, a symbol often used by abortion opponents. On the rear of his car was a Christian fish symbol with the word "Jesus" inside.
Those who know Roeder said he believed that killing abortion doctors was an act of justifiable homicide.
"I know that he believed in justifiable homicide," said Regina Dinwiddie, a Kansas City anti-abortion activist who made headlines in 1995 when she was ordered by a federal judge to stop using a bullhorn within 500 feet of any abortion clinic. "I know he very strongly believed that abortion was murder and that you ought to defend the little ones, both born and unborn."
Dinwiddie said she met Roeder while picketing outside the Kansas City Planned Parenthood clinic in 1996. Roeder walked into the clinic and asked to see the doctor, Robert Crist, she said.
"Robert Crist came out and he stared at him for approximately 45 seconds," she said. "Then he (Roeder) said, 'I've seen you now.' Then he turned his back and walked away, and they were scared to death. On the way out, he gave me a great big hug and he said, 'I've seen you in the newspaper. I just love what you're doing.'^"
Roeder also was a subscriber to Prayer and Action News, a magazine that advocated the justifiable homicide position, said publisher Dave Leach, an anti-abortion activist from Des Moines, Iowa.
"I met him once, and he wrote to me a few times," Leach said. "I remember that he was sympathetic to our cause, but I don't remember any details."
Leach said he met Roeder in Topeka when he went there to visit Shelley Shannon, who was in prison for the 1993 shooting of Tiller.
"He told me about a lot of conspiracy stuff and showed me how to take the magnetic strip out of a five-dollar bill," Leach said. "He said it was to keep the government from tracking your money."
Roeder, who in the 1990s was a manufacturing assemblyman, also was involved in the "Freemen" movement.
"Freemen" was a term adopted by those who claimed sovereignty from government jurisdiction and operated under their own legal system, which they called common-law courts. Adherents declared themselves exempt from laws, regulations and taxes and often filed liens against judges, prosecutors and others, claiming that money was owed to them as compensation.
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So if a black guy robs someone or kills someone, we should use the same thought process to condemn all black guys?
I am sure the RW Nuts would and indeed have.
Then you come to an "evil" Right Wing site to do what, change our darkened prejudiced hearts by the sheer force of your personality? Honestly the way you act- the only difference between you and the democrat kkk is the type of sheets you wear and who you hate.
Oldsoldier1: I like subversive. I'm gonna do it. Maybe I can get a job in El Alcalde's office where I can pass secret memos to my friends in the States. Senor Newsom and Senora Pelosi could be in for a big surprise.
Your Spanish could fool the best of them. . . if they didn't speak Spanish either.
That's the spirit! La Resistance lives on!
Absolutely!
Everything you say is a lie. You are a fool.
Thanks for the swarcasm. Isn't the great hate machine Rush Limbo the leader of the Republican Party? Doesn't he and BillO spew their hate for money and Money? I mean they do not do it to get along with anyone do they? They do it so that they can get money. And nothing is beneath them. They will hate monger and do just for the bucks. And they know that there is no too low that they can go for the RW HAte group Fundies.
BillO is complicit in the murder of Tiller as far as I can see. And the law in Kansas is telling the FREEPERS to tone down their celebrations over the Tiller murder.
The way I act is the way that a person should act when the rhetoric of a group and the Hate mongering and the self righteous thinging leads a dumb ass to think that it is acceptable to slink into a church on Sunday to commit pre-meditated murder of a person in front of his wife and Pastor.
That makes me a bigot. Watch the hate in Steven Crowder's videos and tell me you do not find that amusing as you think that using lame comedy to disguise hate is some kind of political course. It is just catering to the small minded lame brains that need to be led around because they cannot think for themselves except that they are filled with hate from seeinmg it spewed by the RW talking heads.
The weak-kneed left leaning repubican leadership has been on his case for daring to speak out. Plus he has never been in the official position of the republican party, nor is there any evidence to say he had any position of any right. Parrot, please stop taking the crackers from the Obama-philes.
Who gives a crap about Bill O'Reilly? Honestly. However hate? Well if being hateful is so wrong, thank you for joining the republican party. Your membership card will be sent in the mail with the words, "I hate fundies" emblazoned on the front in glitter colors for you.
If you're right, then isn't this the perfect time for you to get a lawyer and sue Bill O'Reilly? I mean it would be a career making case, wouldn't it? Yet… there's no evidence. What if someone killed an evil JEW or CHRSTIAN FUNDIE because they listened to your hate speech? Could we sue you or make you implicit in the death of an innocent person?
You seem so full of hate and prejudgments maybe you're on of us. "One of us! One of us! One of us!" In order for you to have some semblance of not having your foot up your butt, shouldn't you be able to find someplace with an open policy of cold blooded murder? You can't, can you? Plus the fact I type this in front of you and use the word "murder" is condemning the act, which that alone shows you are so full of crap toilets from New York to gay Paris are jealous of your maximum capacity.
I, I like how you differentiate people with different beliefs than yours as somehow genetically inferior. Small minded lame brains… I though libs were really compassionate to those suffering such issues as mental retardation and the like.
Plus you do know one thing about liberals, right? When someone of this voracious hatefulness comes out and says, "RW does such and so," pay very close attention. You have an almost 100% chance they are doing the exact same thing they accuse others of.
Oh, if you're not full of hate, what would someone be doing differently from the nuttiness you're exhibiting if they were?
And Mr. DeVore, the same is true of my driver's license. I pay a nominal fee, and other than the merest of vision tests, it does little to protect me or other drivers. Yet no one is arguing for letting car dealers license drivers.
While I agree that raising the fee per AB 402 is ridiculous and unwarranted, the answer isn't to throw the baby out with the bathwater by the state abdicating its licensing resonsibility. It's to demand that the state fulfill it's obligations to oversee the mandated deposit of funds, and see that safety and educational concerns are followed. And charge for that no more than the actual costs of such oversight.
Thanks for your response.
BTW, the state could offset 2,000 low-income kids working in Hollywood for free each year for every $200K useless crony appointment to frivolous make-work state commissions that's been made by our Governor.
I find it particularly egregious that he campaigned against those very jobs, yet now fills them, especially with those termed out of office or voted out by their constituents.
Why not work on lopping *that* out of the state budget?
Big difference with a driver's license — it is the most commonly used form of government ID. They fingerprint you, ask for your current address, photograph you, and conduct a vision test. Again, the Labor Dept. provides no added value — none whatsoever. The permit did not even exist prior to 1999. Let's just abolish it.
What the hell does any of this have to do with the topic? We're talking about a California child tax law, and you decide you would rather talk about a nutcase who killed another nutcase? Partial birth abortionists are murderers. People who murder murderers are murderers. Now get off your lefty baby-murder support platform, give up on your crap about every abortion opponent being a potential murderer, recognize the hate you condemn exists in far larger numbers on the left than on the right, take your meds, and go post at the Daily Kos or HuffPo.
What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Begone, foul troll! Find someplace else to post your masturbatory ramblings.
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Actually…I think his model is France…
Andrew is proposing we Ding Dong Ditch the Mexicans? Leaving the deed to Cali is actually probably worse than leaving flaming dog poop on the step. At least you can clean that mess up fairly quickly.
They also fingerprint you in Kalifornia? Big Brother lives. There is enough of an issue right now to get the police to purge information of those not convicted, DNA and fingerprints, the UK is being more respectful of privacy than we are. This acceptance of "just in case" government mentality must end.
Will they be charging pregnant mothers the fee because one day the child just might get an acting job. I sure would move out of Obamafornia.
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