The Real Meaning of the 4th of July is Revolution
by Chris BurgardTwo hundred and thirty-three years ago, fifty six of our forefathers signed their names to the Declaration of Independence. They brought forth a new nation conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
They started a war. My ancestor, Francis Lightfoot Lee was one of those men. They started the revolution that birthed this nation.
Now we are engaged at a crossroads of history, testing whether the leaders of this nation so conceived and dedicated, still hold those same truths and ideals to be self-evident.
Iranian citizens have taken to the streets of their cities in the pursuit of freedom and liberty. They sought, and deserved, their own revolution. The Iranian government murdered and persecuted them for it. Our government voted present.
Manuel Zelaya attempted to trample the Honduran Constitution and follow in the footsteps of his communist brother: Hugo Chavez. In the face of such tyranny, the Honduran people rose up in a revolution of their own and sent their King George packing. Within hours, the same US government that dared not meddle in the affairs of the Iranians, sponsored a United Nations Resolution condemning the Honduran people for resisting the spread of communism.
We will meet in the next few days to drink beer, eat hotdogs and enjoy multitudes of pyrotechnic displays reminiscent of the rockets red glare and the attack on Fort McHenry.
Let us also take a moment to remember Neda and all those who are suffering in the quest for freedom. The Honduran Congress had the might of its military to deal with a would be dictator. Would the situation in Iran be different today if her citizens were armed as we Americans are under the Second Amendment? Would the Iranian Basij Militiaman who murdered Neda have ridden so confidently into that crowd if he knew that he faced a citizenry able to defend itself?
I have the freedom today to write this article because on April 19, 1775 a handful of armed farmers and merchants stood and held their ground against the greatest super power on the planet. When the Minutemen stood at Concord’s North Bridge and fired the shot heard around the world, they forever changed the course of history.
That moment brought the audacity of hope to the people of Honduras and it should be cherished by Americans. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this on this 4th of July weekend.
But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate this weekend, we cannot hallow our history if we don’t remember the true meaning of our country’s birth: Revolution. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
The Saul Alinskys and the William Ayers of the world will mourn the loss of Manuel Zelaya and all that he represents, but those of us that are proud of our American heritage will pass on the Dreams of Our Fathers to our children this weekend and every day to come for the rest of our lives. We here highly resolve that all of those who have given their lives for the preservation of freedom shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall continue on in freedom, and that the government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.





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Chris, very well put. Meddling in the affairs of another country.. why would we do that? We would rather parade around the world apologzing for our transgressions….We the people need to stand against what is going on IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!
Happy and safe 4th of July to everyone!
Revolution? Sounds good to me. So when do we march on Washington?
you gave me chills. i have heard it said many times today and it bears repeating: may god bless america.
March on Washington? I'm ready. Let's roll.
Those fifty-six men, knowingly signed their name to a death warrant. How many of us today would do the same thing? I would. I hope it does not come to that.
Count me in for a march. I've had a good life, and I'm only 48 but if it comes to that, I will
fight for what my ancestors created.
this thought is not far from my mind these days. may god protect those willing to stand. (and brother, i believe that by voicing our opposition we may very well be signing our own. so be it.)
me too, I'm in…I just hafta be back for the fall term, I graduate in december. Can we overthrown the despotic Obama regime in two months? I bet we can….
I knew what this president was before about he was elected. Even Hilary has "disappeared." Remember when people said "Oh, he'll never pick her for vice-president b/c she will be too powerful? I remember.
Sarah, basically assasinated…by MSM and Vanity Fair hit piece. Ask yourselves, what for?
And this despotic regime that is call the Obama administration will continue to clamp down on negative press killing the First amendment and figure out ways to circumvent the Constitution that they wipe their noses with and kill the Second amendment while they are at it…
Jamesb, I think the proper response to your question is, "Yes We Can! "
Sept 12 – National Tea Party in Washington DC
I would tend to think that the administration will ABOLISH the 2nd amendment first!!!
It's all well and good to talk about laying down our lives, but before things reach that improbable state, how many of us are ready to lay down a few evenings a month to work with your local government, where you have a chance to influence the people who will eventually be representing our respective states in the congress, or directing policy as our cheif executive.
How about that for a way to show your patriotism this 4th of July. Make a committment to get involved where it will really matter. Emulate the Gipper and teach the new generation what it means to be a true conservative.
I wish everyone would remember that it's not the date that we're celebrating!!!! It's INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!!
Sept 12 – Tea Party day in Washington DC Nov 9-14 Continental Congress convening in Washingon DC (see givemeliberty.org)
Here's where you can make a difference. Click on your state then click volunteer.
http://www.gop.com/Connect/States.aspx
The elite crowd would have you believe that your opinion is that of a rube in a cowboy hat. But it is they who are uninformed in the ways of the world. Having been a G.I. in the pre-unified Germany, I visited East Berlin on several occasions. On each and every visit I got inquiries from East German citizens on when the hell we were going to knock down the wall and free them from their Soviet oppressors. Similarly, traveling throughout Central America, I have met many people with similar desires. One man in Belize in particular told me "the U.S could us all their money, it will be stolen and never get to the people and projects that need it." He went on to say "I would have no problem with the U.S. Marines landing on our beach and planting the Stars and Stripes to make us the 51st state." Obviously, we cannot make right all the worlds wrongs, but apparently under the current administration the opinions of those comfortably residiing in Social Democracies and U.N. criminals are more important than the voices of the oppressed. Recent U.S. positions of passive or active support of Dictators are shameful.
Exactly why I'm going to a TEA Party tomorrow here in my town: to get more involved, try to speak at least local representatives. Then I'm moving on from there. Start local, then start moving up the chain, so to speak. In Christianity, we have a concept called putting feet on your faith. In this case, I'm trying putting feet on my beliefs and political views.
I hate to be the "nit picker" but the battle or skirmish was at Lexington Green a commons area where the two sides faced up against each other and a shot was fired, it's not known by who and in an instance seven American rebels lay dead and nine wounded…for what it's worth…
Planet Hero,
Who said anything about using violence???? Just what planet are you on, dude?
I was born in, (now broke), sunny Kalifornia, in the outer 'burbs of the bay area. I wasn’t all that interested in firearms in my yute to tell the truth.
I was taught about American history the old fashioned way. That we rule.
I joined the Marines in 1967 right out of high school. When I returned from my tour in Nam, I still wasn’t that interested in owning a gun. (I had enough of guns by then).
Not until Nov 4, 2008 did I begin to start buying any firearms.
I saw the “writing on the wall” months before the election, and what I saw coming scared the bejesus out of me.
I immediately began to prepare myself, just as many people prepare for the “big one” here in Cali.
From last fall, till this today, once or twice a week a UPS truck would pull into my driveway and give me my latest necessity that I’d ordered online the week before.
Thousands of rounds of ammo, bipods, pistol and rifle magazines, red dot sights, laser targeting systems, advanced first aid kits, all the latest “home protection” equipment I could afford. And, of course, lots and lots of legal handguns, semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
I’m no “gun nut” by any stretch of the imagination.
But, I can see “unpleasant” events happening in our Nations future.
I am not much of a praying kind of guy, but I pray that we never have to protect ourselves from our own Government.
But, I’m ready now, if it comes to that.
Prepare now for the “zombie apocalypse”
Nuff said on the matter.
Not Over.
"Manuel Zelaya attempted to trample the Honduran Constitution and follow in the footsteps of his communist brother: Hugo Chavez. In the face of such tyranny, the Honduran people rose up in a revolution of their own and sent their King George packing."
Translation: the military decided to depose a democratically-elected leader.
Get your facts straight. The Honduran military acted on (Honduran) constitutionally legal orders from the Honduran Supreme Court. The Honduran constitution foresaw the type circumvention Zelaya was attempting and has encoded in it a method to stop it. Everything was legal according to Honduran law.
oh Ally, I've seen a post or two from Planet Hero before. He fancies him (her?) self this wonderful, wise, cosmic, traveler. Essentially, he has declared himself a legend in his own mind and in reality he (she) is something far less than "all that." I think actually planet hero is a standard issue liberal.
"Stop acting like patriots and start acting like adults."
What?
If you are a patriot, a person who loves his country, you are not acting like an adult? What then is the definition of being an adult? Someone who is supine to the political order? Who just gives in when the entire tenor and direction of the country for over 200 years is to be changed and to be more like what?…what we all left 300 years ago? Is it acting like an adult to not oppose the seizure of the financial centers of the country? Am I an adult if I agree to the seizure of the manufacturing centers of our country? Is it acting like an adult to oppose our president when he sides with the likes of Chavez, Castro and Ortega against a small country trying to maintain their constitution and meanwhile saying nothing when another country is shooting young women in the street (when they aren't stoning them or hanging them).
Excuse me for saying…no, that is not being an adult, that is being a coward who has accepted the soft glove of despotism. Someone who would probably snitch on a neighbor for not being green enough.
If that indeed is happening, I will use vacation time to go down there and stand with my fellow Americans.
Once again, I am stymied by the Leftist mindset and worldview. Do you really, truly not understand all this, or are you just willfully ignoring the facts about Zelaya's wrongdoing? It's so simple to understand, yet you stumble over it. I don't get it.
Thanks for clearing that up for him. These people are upholding their own law, and the media in this country is portraying it as some sort of coup — disgusting.
"Jamesb"
If memory serves, the active revolutionaries involved only about 1% of the general population at the time. A population about about 4 million souls all tolled.
The rest were loyalists, stay at homes, or women and children.
1% took on the must powerful Army and Navy on earth…and after 6/7 years…we won.
Seems to me, it was worth it.
No disrespect to you intended.
Not Over.
How's that "Non-Violent" revolution in Iran working?
We fully intend on having our revolution at the ballot box in 2010 & 12. You and your Lib friends hang on, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Adios, "King" Obamugabe.
Um, its frankly none of our business. Why don't you focus on helping out here at home instead of bringing up irrelevant stuff from clear across the globe?
We have domestic threats here (mostly right-wing nutjobs) that need to be dealt with. Iran can handle itself.
The government is the one with the standing army, Planet Hero. I could go get a good quality rake from thhe garage, for goodness sakes. Who do you think is in power.
BTW am Judge of Elections and Committeeperson. Am afraid that may not cut it in order to get this country on track and that scares me.
So you admit to being a "survivalist" nutjob with an arsenal of guns and ammo?
Turn it in now and seek help! You're more of a danger to America than "socialism" ever could be!
Oh please "Tennessee_Jed", you wouldn't know a "standard issue liberal" if one dragged you out of the swamp you backwoods moron.
allyHM, I am just responding to the tone of the Republican postings, which with very few exceptions seem to be calling for bloodshed.
These big babies are the ones who are talking "Revolution" because the REAL "Revolution" occurred at the ballot box in November of 2008 and they didn't like the results. Tough cookies.
This was before machine guns, FLIR technology, tracking devices, tanks, APCs, Blackhawk copters, drones, grenades, teargas, and the MYRIAD other technologies our troops have. This is what you idiots would be facing with your rusted assault rifles and Grampa's old goose gun… And you think you have a shot? Imbeciles!
You aren't talking about pushing back some guys in red coats with bad teeth, you're talking about throwing yourselves into a meat grinder that you cannot defeat, but if you insist… I won't be crying about your losses.
Oh, and stop using inflammatory terms like "revolution" before you light off some dead-ender nutjob and end up with another mass shooting, ok?
Buh-bye.
I think actually planet hero is a standard issue liberal.
…you wouldn't know a "standard issue liberal" if one dragged you out of the swamp you backwoods moron.
Point proven.
And that proves what, and how? Idiot.
"It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you." ~Dick Cheney
Adults go along with the results of elections even when they are, shall we say.. "Less than satisfactory".
Adults don't go crying about guns and violence when things don't go their way.
Adults talk things through instead of picking up weapons and threatening the other side.
Adults don't pretend that it's still 1776 and don't act like they stand a chance against modern military equipment, training, and tactics.
Adults don't cry about change, and they don't try to constantly maintain the status quo by force.
Adults aren't bullies and they don't try to strongarm people into thinking as they do.
Are you an adult? Judging by your rebuttal you still have a few grades to get through… Just sayin'
And your point is? Some jibberish about a rake, judging elections, and being afraid…
Try again, but slow down and say it so it makes sense this time.
I forgive you.
I don't need your forgiveness, son… Just your attention.
No, you'll be laughing your ass off and tossing back another G&T. We all know.
I was actually planning to duck and cover, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to down a G&T or two… Might calm the nerves a bit.
As for laughing, that's not really my bag. More like "shaking my head and mumbling 'idiots' beneath my breath" if anything…
They are willfully ignoring the facts.
I'll go with that. It's the only answer that really makes sense.
To them being an adult means screaming from the pulpits that George Bush is Hitler and Cheney is a war criminal. Think of spoiled brats in the back seat screaming "LET ME DRIVE, DADDY! I WANNA DRIVE!" – and now that one of them is driving they think they're all growed up.
Sorry that I am the only person on this forum who talks sense and isn't afraid to say it like it is 1GooDDaDDy…
As for military and police not doing their jobs, they can be tried for treason and desertion too. They swore an oath to protect against all enemies foreign AND domestic, and they had better damned well do what they swore to do or be prepared for some very harsh consequences! Look, when you sign up you pledge your life to the US and I don't care if it's your own BROTHER who is the "patriot" (Domestic Terrorist) you are sent to neutralize YOU DO YOUR DAMNED JOB, PERIOD END OF STORY!
They will either protect America or be tried for treason, that's that. Given that choice at least 90% of the US military and police will wake up, drop the gung-ho rhetoric, and do the right thing (which in this case is carry out their orders without hesitation and with the professionalism that is required). Those who refuse should be dragged behind the barracks and made an example of, sorry if that's cold but that's how it is.
My original assessment of this guy Planet Zero has been proven correct by the incredibly silly school yard "zinger" he sent me (makes me wonder if he used to get beat up at school or something.) He has some really incredible hatred in him (I can almost feel his blood boiling,) but not much in the way of actual logical or rational discussion. It is now time to ignore him since he has nothing worthwhile to say.
sweet!
sweet!
"Um, its frankly none of our business."
Good answer, you really told him. You were in the debate club in high school, weren't you?
yeah, I'd say I'm an adult. My father died when I was 13, and I started working after school and I've been working since then for the last 45 goddamn years. I served 4 years in the Marine Corps during Vietnam. I protested the war while in the service after coming back from a tour in Asia. I spent 3 months in prison for protesting that war while in the service and I bet you couldn't even name any protesters that spent more than 30 minutes. While in that process I met some of the stars of the anti-war set…they were uniformly self absorbed and interested only in how to best place themselves before the camera. That was my wake up call about the left. That was when I started reading about being a conservative, reading Buckley and Kirk.
I lived in the SF Bay Area through the 70s and 80s and saw how progressive politics ruined what was once a wonderful place. I raised 2 children, paying for private schools because the public system in Fremont put my son in a class taught by a Chinese woman who taught the class in Chinese because there were many Chinese students. When asked about how other students were to be taught, she didn't give a damn.
I have worked in particle physics, automotive electronics and semiconductors…I've paid one hell of a lot in taxes, state, federal and property. So, I have to disagree and say, I've earned my adult stripes.
Change is not to be abhorred, but stupid change is. Change that goes against what has worked is something to be argued and not something to just be done because some people wrote an article in Time or Atlantic and because they have a degree in the soft studies from Brown. And as to strong-arming…I would suggest you look in the mirror…who are the ones suggesting people who don't believe in AGW should be prosecuted? The one political area where no difference of opinion is allowed is in the liberal camp. The conservative arena has plenty of dissenting voices. In the liberal camp you're all afraid to speak out against anything that is off the main-line.
And as to the 1776 statement…we shouldn't dissent because Obama controls a a powerful military?…maybe he doesn't as mush as you might want to think.
Planet Hero. While I agree that we can enact change at the ballot box the fact remains that the system is getting gamed and tweaked so that real change has reached a crossroads. The system is so unbelievably filled with corruption.
How in the hell am I supposed to get Barney Frank or Chris Dodd out of office? Or Harry Reid? Taxpayers have been funding their elections which should be illegal. Why in the hell was Fannie and Freddie contributing money to any election? Their function is to qualify loan applicants to purchase homes. And thanks to Ms. errrr Mr. Frank they not only did a poor job they were perpetrators in the greatest fraud in American history…..at least until the Waxman Bill takes that torch and runs.
And the ACORN shenanigans? Again more taxpayer money influencing elections. Goldman Sachs. George Soros et al. Both the DNC and the GOP are guilty as sin. And the majority of Americans are so unbelievably ignorant to the realities because we have an media that is aligned with the leeches Inside The Beltway. American Idol, People Magazine and the plethora of numskull networking has sufficiently dumbed down the voter.
So those of us who concur with this writer in many ways are running out of options. 2010 will be a make or break election. If we fail to take the fire hose to Congress then don't be surprised if this movement gathers steam. The 10th Amendment will be pushed to the forefront of American Politics. And I guess those who think we have run the course may have to re-organize in states where the majority concur and consider taking our collective middle finger and show the Congressional "Leadership", Rahm Emmanuel and the residents at 1600 PA Ave. where to take their perverted vision of America.
You sir can join or stay put. That's America.
I will not live side by side with The Useless Idiots. God Bless America and those who died for my freedom. I will honor them if they day comes with the same sacrifice.
Planet Hero. Someone forgot to tell you that socialist does not equal genius. For decades, giddy college students have lined up for classes like "sustainable development" and "Marx and Marxism." I know, I was one of them. When I entered my PhD. program I took every college class related to Marxism and Communism. What I found were apologists for Stalin and Mao murdering tens of millions of people and a political ethics of "the ends justify the means." Are you capable of seeing that Marxism is nothing more than a justification to cause instability and a huge power grab by "marginalized' leftists? Or do you sincerely think that the United States is an exploiter of other countries, even though our military has liberated peoples all over the world from France, and Germany to Japan and South Korea? As far as our corporations "exploiting" foreign workers, how is offering impoverished people jobs "exploitation"? If you feel like you have the right to someone else's labor, then you support slavery, by definition. Most American people support FREEDOM. Not freedom from reality. Not freedom from work. Freedom from government and freedom of opportunity. So you have to convince people that freedom equals slavery. I know, I know. I'm brainwashed by "the man." That's why you have millions of "intellectuals" like yourself towing the party line on the left in the most predictable and doctrinaire manner on a daily basis. Have a Happy Dependence Day.
Your buddies in congress and our school systems didn't seem to have a problem with the term "revolution" in the 60s. Care to explain that? Care to explain why everybody back then was allowed to "question authority", or why it's okay for people mock and openly hate Bush the way they did on every form of media and entertainment available, but now you imply that we're juvenile, naive, and likely homicidal because we're on a CONSERVATIVE website discussing our views and opinions.
Based on your comments above, you have nothing that you believe in or see worth fighting for, and to the vast majority of people you'll ever meet, that makes you the furthest you could EVER get from being an adult.
People have died "not minding their own business" to make sure that you have the freedom to troll websites and speak your mind, as clearly wrong as you are on every level. Go back under your bridge.
"Planet Hero",
When you taxes increase astronomically to cover the cost of the bail outs and the proposed national health care system, tell me all about your "revolution" then and how it's working out for you, K?
Miles, how could you propagate the lies from the leftist media? The Honduran people have the right to live in a normal country, not in a third world basketcase. The enacted a Constitution for a reason, to protect themselves from DESPOTS. But I know the socialist mindset. I once talked to a professor from the socialist London School of Economics about the "rule of law" and she questioned whether such a thing was desirable. Are you freaking kidding me, leftists? All the left wants is power. Pure unadulterated power. Socialists think they are heroes of the people, but they always turn about to be paternalistic oppressors.
Honduras is one of the poorest countries – and the Organization of American Socialists, the World Bank and all other internationalist bodies want to cause further economic damage. Very compassionate. The little socialist propaganda campaign is not working. It's called New Media. Check into it.
Adults are able to have rational discourse and not result to backhanded name-calling.
Adults stand up for what is right even when that position is unpopular with the sheeple.
Adults stand strong and resist when amoral, idiotic and/or oppressive policies are forced down their throats by the powers that be.
Adults don't "go along to get along" when doing that jeopardizes one's freedom.
Adults don't continue to attack the losing side long after the election is over.
Are you an adult? Just sayin'.
"Planet Hero",
Adults are able to have rational discourse and not result to backhanded name-calling.
Adults stand up for what is right even when that position is unpopular with the sheeple.
Adults stand strong and resist when amoral, idiotic and/or oppressive policies are forced down their throats by the powers that be.
Adults don't "go along to get along" when doing that jeopardizes one's freedom.
Adults don't continue to attack the losing side long after the election is over.
Are you an adult? Just sayin'.
I've got news for you Planet Hollywood – if there is a civil war the army will do to the leftists what the Honduran people did to Zelaya. I know several soldiers. They detest leftist traitors to the Constitution and The Declaration of Independence. Don't fall into the trap of thinking our soldiers are a bunch of ignorant rednecks. They are patriotic volunteers, and therefore most know the political principles of this country and are ready to defend them.
Sarah Palin resigned the governorship of Alaska. Nobody knows yet why — perhaps there is a scandal lurking out there; perhaps the sixteenth ethics charge will stick; perhaps she or a member of her family has just been diagnosed with a severe illness; perhaps it's a ploy to run for president in 12; perhaps —
Whatever her reasons, I've never seen a person so horribly attacked. It was expected from the Democrats, but that the media — Couric, Gibson — and late night entertainers and fluff magazines — would join in the character assassination is unprecedented.
And that was why when I heard the news, I felt like someone had hit me in the gut with their fist. Because when I heard the announcement, on July 3, the day before Independence Day, it occurred to me that Khrushchev was right all those years ago when he said "we will bury you". But it wasn't the USSR that provided the shovels; it was our own naivete when we stupidly elected an avowed Marxist who said "who are you going to believe? Me or your lying ears?" We believed him and now our banks are nationalized, our car companies are owned by the government, our "elected" representatives pass bills they haven't read that will destroy American prosperity and we're like "whoa, wha' happen?"
It must be painful to be so much smarter than people who disagree with you…
When freedoms are squelched, when governments become despotic, when czars are appointed by an "anointed king" in a supposedly free and democratic Constitutional Republic without the involvment of the citizenry, sometimes "revolution" is necessary–violent or otherwise. And dare you call our founding fathers children by implication because they took up arms against their set of despots? You Planet Hero neither speak for the planet nor are you a hero. You would think yourself so, but you are as deluded as your leader in Washington DC and his cronies. God Bless you with the wisdom you so sorely lack at this moment. God, make it quick!
People like Planet Hero are a mark of our times. They are either cynical side-liners who appear at all political sites, both left and right, and voice their unserious comments in order to draw out emotional comment, and then sit back and think themselves superior for never having surrendered to belief in anything.
Those types are meaningless and like the ephemera they live for a few hours and die.
The other interpretation is that they really mean what they say. And in that case they are beyond Marxist and Leninist; they are for the cauldron of anarchy. They are comic book readers, and there in is their touchstone and understanding. They imagine themselves in the Matrix and heroic. They probably have no real understanding of what it takes to deliver food to their neighborhood, nor how energy is assured. No doubt they abjure cars, but they ride buses and light transits, but have no idea where that energy comes from. They have no understanding that wind power is episodic, but demand isn't.
They just turn on the wall switch the and lights turn on. They believe in magic.
And yet…they seem to think that they are adults.
I am taking this turn of events a little personally as well because of genetic ties to the revolution. I'm a direct descendant of Samuel Adams (I wish this included stock in the company as well!
) My great-great grandmother was a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, liberty bell necklace and all. ( My great grandmother couldn't join because at that time Native peoples couldn't be members along with other people of color) I love this country. It's not a perfect nation, certainly not recently, and at one time it was the premier beacon of freedom in the world. May God grant that she become so again. May we all ponder this weekend just how much we are all willing to give to return the US to the Constitutional Republic she was meant to be. Those who've taken the oath already know.
Look, I am sure that some military will be stupid enough to switch sides and be "patriots" (as you see it) but they won't be getting any support from me, or from the millions of other Americans who see violence as an abhorrent and childish way to change things.
We voted for a change in 2008, we got the change. Accept our votes or shut up about freedom from now on.
Drie…,
I am eligible for DAR and Colonial Dames. In fact, my great-aunt was the national president of Colonial Dames at one time. (I'm not descended from anyone famous, though.) My mother, God love her, is a liberal with BDS; makes for interesting times when we all get together. Somehow I eventually came out conservative, so I feel I can counteract Dear Mother's leftie-ness. Going to a TEA Party tomorrow to figure out just what I'm going to do with this strong motivation to rebel against the tide.
GrannieAnnie1,
Seriously? Do you have a website or more info on this? Like NeoConJedi, I'll take vacation time and go.
Ally: I don't think fame means anything. I think it's our willingness to stand. I too am from an uber liberal family! We are blacksheep!!
Going to a tea party myself, heat and all! God Bless you and God Bless our country. Let's pray for each other's families!
Drie,
How cool to meet another one! Blacksheep, that is. Yes, let's do pray for each other and each other's families! Not that it matters, but out of curiosity, I'm an orthodox (conservative) Anglican. You?
Y-o-u a-r-e w-e-a-k. Slow enough?
Jed! And I already sailed right into him before I saw your note! Oh, well….fair warned. Tx.
It doesn't matter what religion we are as long as we can agree on the basics: Jesus as savior. The Bible as the word of God. I am currently a 4 square church visitor but I've been a Baptist, Presbyterian, non-denominational, and base chapel member in times past. I am conservative in the vein that I believe what God says in His word and anything man might add to or take away from His word is folly. I love God more than I can express on this page simply because there is not enough room. I believe that He ordained America as much as He ordained Israel. If that makes sense!
Complete sense and right on target! I think you and I would get along "famously" in "real life"! We couldn't agree more.
Are you by any chance an actress as well?
Nicely said. What tipped us all off about Obama was when he mentioned his belief that all Americans had [sic] an inalienable right to economic equality. No, most everybody here is really talking about a counter revolution at the ballot box which should start with rallies, tea parties and marches. The current administration is lurching so far left so fast that we can begin to actually see him circumventing the constitution to achieve the socialist vision. As unthinkable as it is, circumventing the constitution could precipitate the unthinkable, I just believe it will not come to that.
Amateur: dancer first, singer second, actress if you make me.
Actually, I just finished the lead in a non-musical, first one in LOOOOOONG time. Our local civic theatre operates much like an Equity house even though we aren't paid (only the theatre staff, directors, choreographers and musicians are paid). Never was good enough to make it my profession, and I'm too old to go for it now.
I assume you are an actress?
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Yes…Character actress! Which means I'm old too! Well, not old. Seasoned? ER…not 20 anymore? Shucks. You get the point. gotta go. doing online Bible study! Be blessed! And you are NEVER too old for the theatre!
Sarah Palin was attacked because she terriried the left.She had no skeletons in her closet,no hidden agendas..she is just a good decent woman trying to do the right thing for her family,state and country.
Palin for prez 2012!
I would. Give me liberty or give me death!
May God Bless These United States!
Sorry, Planet Dork, but the military is only charged with carrying out LAWFUL orders. Maybe you should understand the military first before making uneducated posts.
If the orders of the military or the police is to round up everyone who ever voted Republican, or attends a Christian Church, or who owns a gun, then you can be sure that most in the military will NOT obey.
The military owes their ultimate allegiance to the U.S. Constitution and hence the PEOPLE, not to President Urkel.
So you're the reason my ammunition has gone up 2x-3x
The "um" is a signal you're talking to a teen-aged girl.
Planet Hero won't answer you. You frighten her.
Definitely a teenaged girl.
Her replies above: "Um." and "Buh-bye."
Don't judge who I am based on your fantasy life Mikey…
History is always written by the winners and little has been said about the true nature of 1776 – only about a third of tghe people actively supported the revolution, a third didn't care and the other third was loyal to the crown. And alo little is said that without the active help ofthe French the Revolution probably would have failed – indeed – it was the French navyt that bottled up the British Navy at Yorktown preventing the British form reinforcing their Army – Yorktown was the end of the Revolution and the birth of the United States.
All the signers had more to lose than gain by this act of treason.
"Of those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war. Five were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire families. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims of manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen lost everything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation they sacrificed so much to create, is still intact."
The last quote was taken at http://www.usff.com/usff/sacredhonor.html
Thomas Jefferson said that "A little revolution now and then is a good thing". I'm waiting.
Haha!! I didn't even consider that…I just figured I wasn't speaking monosyllabically enough for them to understand me.
"Change is not to be abhorred, but stupid change is."
Come on, man, stop with the logic. You're going to hurt Hero's brain.
GrannieAnnie1, there is a big one planned for Sept. 12 on the Mall in DC. Glenn Beck's website has info on it.
“Those who refuse should be dragged behind the barracks and made an example of, sorry if that's cold but that's how it is”.
“…but they won't be getting any support from me, or from the millions of other Americans who see violence as an abhorrent and childish way to change things.”
One of those statements has to be a lie, no?
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever."
-George Orwell
Every Day! Never let up on them
Planet Hero
I guess that means that the people who live in the collar counties of Chicago (huge Messiah supporters by the way) are "survivalist nutjobs".
Handgun sales have gone through the roof in these affluent "Democrat" dominated counties since Dear Leader was elected! These are Doctors, Lawyers, Bankers and the like! Explain that, will you?
When I go to the range to shoot, I now see Soccer Mom mini-vans with Obama bumper stickers on them in the parking lot. Your theories are worhtless………….
And as long as crackpot's like you are free to roam the streets my loaded 40 cal. will sleep by my bedside every night………..The dogs will get you first, me second…………….
Ain't that the truth!
If, God forbid, all hell broke loose in this country, Planet Zero would be the first one pounding on our doors to save him or at least give him a gun…………..Guess that makes me a survivalist nutjob too………………
That's right the F A S C IS T S are back in power so its 1922 in Italy.
Violence is begotten by controlling monsters like you enacted rules to enslave the people. You push bills through congress designed to impoverish people and enslave them. You give people three hours to read 1200 pages, use speed readers to read them into the record and you refuse to let anyone in the opposition party listen to let alone engage in the debate and then you sneer at anyone who complains. You openly support murderers and dictators in other countries and do everything in your power to stop people from overthrowing them. This begets violence sir every time it is employed. You see the truth is that you liberals will never enact these rules without the threat of violence on the populace.
Which is why you make you empty threat? Why don't you expand on this "you wish you were never born" comment. Is this kinda like how a person who followed the religion of Judaism wished they were never born in Germany in 1943-1944. So what final solution do you have for me Planet Hero, is it gas or an incinerator.
Stop being a F ascist and start acting like an adult, Thank you.
Which is why you make your empty threat? Why don't you expand on this "you wish you were never born" comment. Is this kinda like how a person who followed the religion of Judaism wished they were never born in Germany in 1943-1944. So what final solution do you have for me Planet Hero, is it gas or an incinerator.
Stop being a F ascist and start acting like an adult, Thank you.
Hmm well I suppose some would call me a "survivalist nutjob" too but I prefer to live by the old Boy Scout Motto: "Be Prepared"! I doubt if my stash equals 1GoodDaddy's….
Actually he did.
He's got some new kind of concentration camp and he is just waiting for Obama to tell him the correct group that is on the identity politics out so that he can start rounding people up.
F ascism is a corporatist third way philosophy where the government controls the corporations. He's just getting a jump start on Obama's next step. Planet Hero is just one of the O's black shirts. Obama has enacted every other policy of Benito Musolini so why not that one, too.
I was born in, (now broke), sunny Kalifornia, in the outer 'burbs of the bay area. I wasn’t all that interested in firearms in my yute to tell the truth.
I was taught about American history the old fashioned way. That we rule.
I joined the Marines in 1967 right out of high school. When I returned from my tour in Nam, I still wasn’t that interested in owning a gun. (I had enough of guns by then).
Not until Nov 4, 2008 did I begin to start buying any firearms.
I saw the “writing on the wall” months before the election, and what I saw coming scared the bejesus out of me.
I immediately began to prepare myself, just as many people prepare for the “big one” here in Cali.
From last fall, till this day, once or twice a week a UPS truck would pull into my driveway and give me my latest necessity that I’d ordered online the week before.
Thousands of rounds of ammo, bipods, pistol and rifle magazines, red dot sights, laser targeting systems, advanced first aid kits, all the latest “home protection” equipment I could afford. And, of course, lots and lots of legal handguns, semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
I’m no “gun nut” by any stretch of the imagination.
But, I can see “unpleasant” events happening in our Nations future.
I am not much of a praying kind of guy, but I pray that we never have to protect ourselves from our own Government.
But, I’m ready now, if it comes to that.
Prepare now for the “zombie apocalypse”
Nuff said on the matter.
Not Over.
Gentlemen… You can't go around pretending this is 1776 anymore.
"Revolution", as a violent means to overthrow elected officials, is no longer a viable way to effect change. Violence only begets more violence, it's a law of the Universe and you can't dismiss that.
If you REALLY wanted a free and peaceful society you would have your "revolution" at the ballot box and you would accept the results of that, however seeing how you berate the results of the "revolution of 2008" I think you prove beyond any doubt that you aren't. You want guns, war, death, and violence… And if you get the 'smart idea' to try anything you may just get your wish, but so much so you will wish you were never born.
Stop acting like "patriots" and start acting like adults. Thank you.
Those military people you were trashing last week, Planet Hero?
I see you are expanding upon the number of things you don't know much about, though.
oh Ally, I've seen a post or two from Planet Hero before. He fancies him (her?) self this wonderful, wise, cosmic, traveler
And comes off as a commissar ready to punish those against the Glorious Future.
No.
Ah, another "count all the firepower and fancy gear" armchair tactician.
Tell me, oh enlightened one, where is all this gear manufactured? Hmm?
Just because you are so ignorant of logistics, strategy and tactics doesn't mean the people who disagree with you are. Please do presume all who disagree with you are idiots, though.
Ah, the number of false dichotomies you can come up with gets bigger and bigger.
I found these two most ironic:
Adults don't cry about change, and they don't try to constantly maintain the status quo by force.
Adults aren't bullies and they don't try to strongarm people into thinking as they do.
Riiiiiight.
Now, now. Don't fight with the Wave of teh FUTURE!
But don't worry, he's really a nice guy in real life. Can't have people realize the monster that exists behind the mask, after all.
You are so full of contradictions, you have no idea what you speak of.
"Planet_sandwich"
When you first popped your unwashed head over the fence here at BH several weeks ago, I went to your “profile” to “see” what you were all about.
I’ve noticed that EVERY post you send is somehow a marxist appeaser diatribe, and not just here at BH but on other sites as well.
I pity you for…being you.
Small, weak, unsteady, venomous, self-centered, sloth like, with poor reading comprehension skills, and well, just plain stupid.
What makes you think that our law enforcement officers or military would fire on it’s own citizens? They too swore an oath to “defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic?” They swear that oath to the PEOPLE of this nation, not to a politician. Any politician.
Check out this organization for example: <a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I32j3rTkHk” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I32j3rTkHk
But, of course being the sniveling low life coward you seem to be hiding behind your nickname, (by your own postings I’ve read mind you), you wouldn’t know, (or care, except for your own Ogenda), anything like that would you, troll meat? Would you now?
Not Over.
Hector – good stuff
Pretending that a 53% election win is a "revolution" that allows the progressive statists to shred the constitution and impoverish our nation is neither adult nor patriotic.
If you were an adult, you would not believe that a socialist rabble-rouser can remake the way our political and economic system works and not do enormous damage.
You would think about paying off the debt once all the no-growth eco-marxist policies are implemented. You would think about the consequences of our new banana republic/corporate welfare state. If you were an adult, you would know what happened in other countries which went down that way.
Not a single one of Obama´s policies is making us freer or better off. As for the peaceful part, wasn´t it radical left-wingers like you who claimed that the loud opposition to Bush was in itself evidence enough that he had failed?
Yes. Also watch out for people who actually type "hahahahaha". Never a good sign.
"but so much so you will wish you were never born."
I find it absolutely precious that liberals like Planet Hero can talk so tough and courageously when standing up to his fellow Americans, who have done nothing more to harm him than simply disagree with him on a political issue. And all the while he fights diligently for the respect, dignity, and civil liberties of the Gitmo detainees.
Believe me when I tell you Planet Hero that every time I read or listen to one of you try to defend Obama, I sincerely do wish I was never born. You guys slay me!
Lastly, although the Democrats are the party of "Hypocrisy" I do hope you remember this in 2012 when the very same people who voted Obama into office, see the error of their ways and vote him out again. Remember it is only a "revolution at the ballot box" not "Racism at the ballot box." Personally, I won't expect you to adhere to your words for that long since I know you're inherently incapable of it.
"What makes you think that our law enforcement officers or military would fire on it’s own citizens? They too swore an oath to 'defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic?' They swear that oath to the PEOPLE of this nation, not to a politician. Any politician. "
The great majority of U.S. soldiers will not fire on the American people. It is the one reason the socialists have not turned us into a total banana republic and the main reason libs constantly lie and try to brainwash people, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN. Socialists are scum. You hear me Planet Hollywood – they are SCUM. And don't think that I, nor the majority of people at BH, don't understand socialists either. Conservatives tend to know their way of thinking thoroughly, because they are not half-assed educated like most socialists. If you want to challenge my knowledge of Marxism, neomarxism, socialism, the Frankfurt School, or whatever, just go for it.
Planet Hero. Someone forgot to tell you that socialist does not equal genius. For decades, giddy college students have lined up for classes like "sustainable development" and "Marx and Marxism." I know, I was one of them. When I entered my PhD. program I took every college class related to Marxism and Communism. What I found were apologists for Stalin and Mao murdering tens of millions of people and a political ethics of "the ends justify the means."
Are you capable of seeing that Marxism is nothing more than a justification to cause instability and a huge power grab by "marginalized' leftists? Or do you sincerely think that the United States is an exploiter of other countries, even though our military has liberated peoples all over the world from France and Germany to Japan and South Korea? (By the way, Japan attacked the U.S., not vice versa). As far as our corporations "exploiting" foreign workers, how is offering impoverished people jobs "exploitation"? If you feel like you have the right to other people's capital, then you feel like you have the right to other people's labor. If you feel like you have the right to other people's labor, then you support slavery, by definition. It really is that simple. No tricks, no word games. Slavery.
Most American people support FREEDOM. Not freedom from reality. Not freedom from work. Freedom from government and freedom of opportunity. So you have to convince people that freedom equals slavery. I know, I know. I'm brainwashed by "the man." That's why you have millions of "intellectuals" like yourself towing the party line on the left in the most predictable and doctrinaire manner on a daily basis. Have a Happy Dependence Day.
Miles, how could you propagate the lies from the leftist media? The Honduran people have the right to live in a normal country, not in a third world basketcase. The enacted a Constitution for a reason, to protect themselves from DESPOTS. But I know the socialist mindset. I once talked to a professor from the socialist London School of Economics about the "rule of law" and she questioned whether such a thing was desirable. Are you freaking kidding me, leftists? All the left wants is power. Pure unadulterated power. Socialists think they are heroes of the people, but they always turn about to be paternalistic oppressors.
Honduras is one of the poorest countries – and the Organization of American Socialists, the World Bank and many other internationalist bodies want to cause further economic damage to it because they dared to enforce the rule of law. Very compassionate. The little socialist propaganda campaign by the mainstream media is not working. It's called New Media. Check into it.
Revolution? I would add clarification to that -we are in a revolution that is destroying America -a continuem of the sixties revolution against all authority -spritual and political.
In 1776 we revolted for the real meaning of the America Revolution – freedom: (not the unbridled license of today)
"…Change that goes against what has worked …"
Don't forget the more important point about change. They want change that has a proven track record of failing. Like a dumbass bass that keeps picking up the fake plastic worm with the hook in it -they are convinced they're clever.
Great retort – if only we had 53% of the voters like you – with convictions based upon truth -not some pie-in-the-sky, feel good, leftist Kool-aid inspired, ideology.
By the way, i had a grandfather named Hector.
History is always written by the winners and little has been said about the true nature of 1776 – only about a third of the people actively supported the revolution, a third didn't care and the other third was loyal to the crown. And also little is said that without the active help of the French the Revolution probably would have failed – indeed – it was the French navy that bottled up the British Navy at Yorktown preventing the British form reinforcing their Army – Yorktown was the end of the Revolution and the birth of the United States.
All the signers had more to lose than gain by this act of treason.
"Of those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war. Five were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire families. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims of manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen lost everything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation they sacrificed so much to create, is still intact."
The last quote was taken at <a href=”http://www.usff.com/usff/sacredhonor.html” target=”_blank”>http://www.usff.com/usff/sacredhonor.html
Thomas Jefferson said that "A little revolution now and then is a good thing". I'm waiting.
"Nero_sandwich"
Being a former libtard myself, I am fluent in your misdirected language.
I’ll attempt to interpret your post for those at BH that can’t understand your rantings. (However, I believe that 99.99% of them “get it”. That leaves out the Kool-Aid swilling troll meat among us naturally).
“Look, when you sign up you pledge your life to the US and I don't care if it's your own BROTHER who is the "patriot" (Domestic Terrorist) you are sent to neutralize YOU DO YOUR DAMNED JOB, PERIOD END OF STORY!”
“…neutralize”? You mean murder right? Man, just say it.
“Sorry that I am the only person on this forum who talks sense.”
Spoken like the true Stalinist you represent.
In truth knucklehead:
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809.ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ.
“Given that choice at least 90% of the US military and police will wake up, drop the gung-ho rhetoric, and do the right thing”
In the eyes of the marxist/leftist/progressive the “right thing” is anything that undermines their authority and must be squashed with extreme prejudice.
“Those who refuse should be dragged behind the barracks and made an example of, sorry if that's cold but that's how it is”.
This from the genius that states:
“…but they won't be getting any support from me, or from the millions of other Americans who see violence as an abhorrent and childish way to change things.”
The tens of millions of slaughtered people in the name of the socialist utopia you encourage would say otherwise troll meat.
Now it’s time for your nap and binky…back under the bridge with you troll meat.
Not Over.
Sarah Palin for President!
Accept our votes or shut up
Accept our votes or shut up about freedom from now on.
No.
'What makes you think that our law enforcement officers or military would fire on it’s own citizens?"
I do believe they would. I watched them in action decades ago when the earliest anti-abortion rallies produced police using pain-control techniques, justified with giddy adolescent glee, on 90 year old women. Not all, but too many, in police uniforms, could care less who they get to order around -sad to say. By the way -most are unionized and Obama, like all socialists, takes good care not to offend union members -he just gives them presents -like Chrysler Corp.
That's assuming the people operating the tanks and Blackhawks are necessarily going to be on your side, Planet Hero. And since you don't contribute to the nation's GDP anyway, the question of whether anyone will be really getting support from you is moot.
I bet President Zelaya thought he owned Honduras a month ago.
The thing about Democrats is that their very name illustrates a character flaw. They believe democracy trumps all. In other words, anything that wins a vote has supreme moral authority.
That's not how America was actually supposed to work. See, the Bill of Rights was written because people understood that some things were too important to put up to a vote, too important to leave exposed to people's day-to-day whims. So maybe when we get stuck with a President and Congress who think they can steamroll over the people and suck our wallets dry on new government programs based mainly on wishful thinking, it doesn't matter whether they legally won an election. It doesn't make what they're doing any less wrong. It's not necessarily completely out of the realm of plausibility that the government could get so out of control that waiting until the next election would be more dangerous than attempting to correct the problem immediately. That is, unless you subscribe to the childish absolutist notion that because they won an election, everything they could possibly do is okay.
The thing about violence is that it's absolutely irrational to consider it "abhorrent and childish." Wasteful, destructive, terrible, yes. But the moment you decide violence is so abhorrent, so beneath you, as to be completely off the table you cease to be a force that matters in the world, because you are going to end up a slave to anyone who makes violence a way of life. If you want freedom, that requires a different kind of peace, where violence is off the table because the peaceful people are better at it than anyone else.
"Yes we can" or this would be perfect after the revolution, "Change we can believe in"
Good thing I was 3 ha's short of your requirement, then.
Planet Hero
Revolution? Really? You freaks put a dumber Rod Blagojevich in the White House. Research your "Hero" already!
He is the antithesis of Freedom. The few votes he actually did cast when he was in Illinois, ran the gamut from banning video games and particular types of Dogs to handgun bans and smoking bans. Everything the guy has ever done has been about removing individual freedoms…………..Read a book or something already!
Why are you waiting? Be part OF the revolution. Get out, get involved, get in people's faces when they parrot the falsehoods created by the leftists and most MSM. I'm tired of waiting. I'm getting invovled. Who's with me?
Not if you're a liberal, Mike. Liberals consider it "good form" and of high intelligence to talk out of both sides of the mouth.
Donna, agreed. I'm pretty sure that is what the conservatives commenting here mean when they support "revolution".
I second that motion,.
I am sorry but I just don't think F ascism makes sense. Sorry to see that you do.
Don't you have a Musolini revival meeting to go to. When they measured you for your Black Cardigan was that the first time you wore clothing your mother had not bought for you!
Wonderful, wonderful answer! You can go on for hours about how inconsequential and meaningless conservatives are, and yet they are a bigger threat that is more important than people dying in the streets fighting for freedom from oppression and tyranny! "Iran can handle itself." Yes, we have noticed you are a great fan of the quelling of dissent. Yup, you are indeed a true American to the core. Ha!
We have domestic threats here (mostly right-wing nutjobs) that need to be dealt with.
Anyone who agrees with Janet Napolitano's definition of a "domestic threat" loses credibility in my eyes. Especially since I'm from Arizona and she harassed our law enforcement mercilessly while she was governor.
What we saw with the vicious assault on Sarah Palin and her family was reminiscent of what happened to the Tsar and his wife and children when the Russian Bolsheviks attained power in 1917. All that has happened is that we've advanced culturally and with sophistication. The American Bolshies didn't need to take Sarah, Todd and the five Palins out into the countryside and shoot them — they had the propaganda media and "entertainers" like David Letterman do it with words, innuendo and character assassination. Less bloody that way.
Up the rebels! Down socialism, big government, over taxation, the hoax that is man-made global warming, the nanny state, the teachers union, reverse racism, the mainstream (radical leftist) press — and all those that seek to ignore, redifine, or rewrite our founding documents.
Oh yeah, and you can keep your curly light-bulbs too!
Why has revolution not reached the ballot box? It appears me that this has been harder than thought due to past voting records. Everyone complains about the way our representatives are voting against our wishes as constituents, but it does not appear that we are voting them out of office! The revolution needs to start at the ballot box and throw the rotten representatives voting with the Obama Administration to throw all our taxpayer money down the wishing well of OZ! Vote them out of office! That is our only chance to take back OUR voice!
THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO REPRESENT US, THE VOTER, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!
GET OUT AND VOTE AGAINST THESE SOCIALIST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
Agree. Less bloody, but every bit as effective.
His type are always amusing, awaiting their place in the New Order, then so astonished when the knock on the door is not what they expected…
Revolution? Look what are brave neighbors in Honduras just did. The MSM does not want everyone to know that the Honduran Military swears and oath to defend the Constitution, just like our Military.
If you really think that we will stand by and let OUR CONSTITUTION be torn to shreds you are wrong!
That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
Over the years we have let our government violate the Constitution time and time again. However, we now have a President that is even more aggressive in dismantling it. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen!
I do pray that it can be remedied at the ballot box, but, with the level of fraud and corruption, that may not be possible. I will tell you this, I will go down fighting because I WILL NOT HAVE MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ENSLAVED! Regardless of what the news tells you, Obama does NOT have a mandate and you would be surprised that there are probably way more of us then there are of you. You know the old saying, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". Well when the media is holding the grease can, they can put all the lies they want to on the front pages and get away with their facade.
I suggest to you, get out of your intellectual commune and get out in the real world and see and hear what is going on. The exact opposite of what the media tells you!
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure." ………Thomas Jefferson
The protests in Iran started out nonviolent as well. It was the government that took the first shots. People like Planet Hitler know this and I suspect it is what he really wants. We talk about REvolution on a blog and protecting our rights and he threatens us with being shot in the streets.
Can you imagine if anyone who supported Bush during the Iraq war has said that to Code Pink protesters?
When people like him say it you need to understand that if they could they would do it. The left wether they label themselves Stalinists or Fascists in the end want the same things they've wanted from the early 1800's. Power and they are willing to kill to take it.
Reason Jester
The only reason this F ascist wierdo is posting is to make the debate all about him. I don't care what he thinks because he is a Corporatist Third Wayer who doesn't believe in the First Ammendment. Hence his STFU remark. Klavin had him pegged in his PJTV video.
I think 1GoodDaddy's point is spot on. A revolution of the people backed by arms, even if they are just firearms, is deadly to deal with even with our technology. You can make thermite from beach sand and hydrogen gas from household detergent. Even the military admits that the only way to quell an insurgency is to outnumber them 10 to 1. We don't have a military large enough to handle all the armed citizens in our country so I guess our government better show a little respectfor us now and then. I guess that is what burns Planet Hitler's little red volkswagon.
Excuse me as the saying goes
"In the Court of My Opinion I Alone am God"
You don't get to order people around elling them what they can think. If someone wants to judge you to have the timber of a teenage girl that is their prerogative. I on the other hand think you are a Musolini Corporatist Third Wayer with a penchant for Black Turtlenecks, metaphorically speaking.
We will make our judgements and voice them whether you like them or not. Capisce
Excuse me as the saying goes
"In the Court of My Opinion I Alone am God"
You don't get to order people around telling them what they can think. If someone wants to judge you to have the timber of a teenage girl that is their prerogative. I on the other hand think you are a Musolini Corporatist Third Wayer with a penchant for Black Turtlenecks, metaphorically speaking.
We will make our judgements and voice them whether you like them or not. Capisce
The day the second amendment is abolished, is the call to arms for about 50 million of us. Good luck with that one, Obamanation.
Didn't Guns and Ammo name Obama "Gun Salesman of the Year"?
Never mind violent resistance against the governent, our leaders lethargic approach to dealing with the borders and crumbling local economies causing layoffs of law enforcement will motivate people to make the pragmatic ((not fanatical), decision to arm themselves. As usual, liberal policies result in a plethora of unintended consequences.
That's about the only cold comfort we'll get if he gets his way.
This article brought tears to my eyes and resolve to my heart and mind!
I do not know what more I can do then post my point of view on sites such as these, and encourage others to free their minds from the lies of………. ..a life of ease—-they will never live to see!
Some one who knows how to do it, please build a web-site where all like minded people can get together and share ideas, not just meet by accident on the comment sites.
I Believe In The America Our Forefathers Fought For!
Not quite. The Bolsheviks fought FOR freedom, too bad they (does this sound familiar?) gave it away on false promises of fiscal and social equality. Plus the Bolsheviks went after them face-to-face, with all the bravery of a mob but they were direct. Those who attacked Palin did not even have that much courage.
What makes you think it hasnt? Voting decides nothing. It's those who count the votes who do. Better look at these electronic voting machines with NO VERIFIABLE AUDIT TRAIL – Dead people voting, etc. The fact is some people have given up because, right or wrong, they percieve that the process is fixed. I hear it all the time – "Dosent matter who I vote for , the damn thing's rigged anyway" and after looking at this ACORN crap, I believe it. Time for a repeat of Athens, TN.
Planet_Sub talks out of both sides so often, by now they are likely stretched so much they wrap around his head and the ends meet. This may explain why so many of his "arguments" keep going round and round and round…
Excellent column. Thank you.
You made me cry with this.. Bill.
Yet I am still determined to resist in any way I can
.Tea Parties
Commenting to possibley enlighten, as you have done.
Writing and Calling ..Members of Congress
Voting (when the time comes) even willing to stand outside the polling place for hours to combat the 'Little Oak Nuts'
Refusing to fill out more on the 2010 census then the number of people in the household.
What ever more I can do as a little person from a some what isolated area.
I want to get some of those car magnets, the large ones and write 'No Obama Style Health Care" and "Take Back America", on them and stick them on my car doors,etc.
I Will Not Go Quietly into The Night!
May I suggest wrist bands in bright green for the whole month of July?
Going to make some tonight–after the fireworks,
I bought a large stock of standard light bulbs when I saw them dissapearing from the shelves.
So There "O'light"…. :~P
Think he will appoint a light bulb Czar?
We need to find a way to organise our efforts, we are so dang independent, we have resisted uniting behind One candidate.
Thanks..BF
This is what you idiots would be facing with your rusted assault rifles and Grampa's old goose gun… And you think you have a shot? Imbeciles!
you're talking about throwing yourselves into a meat grinder that you cannot defeat, but if you insist… I won't be crying about your losses.
Is that your dream for all of (us) your fellow citizens, whom you profess to love? You love the diverse peoples right??
Or is it only if they are diverse in (color)? Never for those who are diverse in ideology!!
Great article, Viva-la-Revolution!
Try visiting Glenn Beck's The 912 Project here: http://www.the912project.com/
It is a place for regular Americans who are fed up with their government and representatives. I would also recommend you buy his new book "Common Sense". It only costs $6.50 and is a great read particularly for this weekend.
Can you say REVOLUTION at that point….. srsly, everyone in Washington would have guns pointing at them!!!!
Ha! A light bulb Czar. Yep, that sounds like our fearless leader.
Sure! 912dc.org Put this on as many posts as you can! HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
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More info on what happened in Honduras here… http://www.cato.org/dailypodcast/podcast-archive….
I want to take time out here from the Planet Hitler show to make a comment about the Greens in Iran. I think we should all do something, anything this fourth of July at events, barbeques and tea parties to support the protesters in Iran who are standing up to murderers with automatic weapons with rocks. Especially now that the Supreme Leader has ordered major crackdowns we need to keep the story alive and keep the Green Movement in Iran alive. Since we have a President that cares absolutely nothing about the Freedoms and Liberty of people in Iran or other ocuntries like Honduras we will have to take that slack. I think wearing bright green headbands or wrapping your hands in green cloth the way the Iranians are doing would be a great gesture. Let's be thankful for our independence and pray that Iran gains theres. There is an Iranian Epic about Kaveh the Blacksmith which is one of their greatest classics. It is so relevant to their situaltion today
http://shermansmarch.blogspot.com/2009/06/of-zoha...
Going by his vicious comments about Palin and her children (he has gotten very insulting at breitbart.com) and towards strong women featured here period, I gather he does not think much of that revolution and would prefer women be in the kitchen, barefoot and aborting.
Really? What about the "Sexual Revolution"? There's a non-violent Revolution that you guys started. And we will do it with the soapbox, the ballot box and the email inbox until we have you all boxed in…We are the adults.
BTW, we have now had 3 "Tea Parties" and I don't really recall any of them being violent in any way. As a matter of fact we even picked up our own trash and left the area better than when we found it in hundreds of communities across the country.
Thank You.
Good for you
That is a great idea!
Dang! Manic Otter, I apologize. I was to quick and I honestly did not see that. There IS a difference though. You see, idiot trolls really do type "hahahahaha", whereas you restrained yourself to a curt "Haha!!". Which is like "Heh!" or "Aha!" an exclamation entirely acceptable to adult, intelligent people as a rhetorical device.
So you can talk about "Laws of the Universe", but we can't use examples like Iran?
Peanut-Hero—–Just as all the sane, rational and mature liberal left wing-nuts who reacted, so ADULT like, to the vote count in Florida, not so many years ago?
Good point. Ta-da!
Love PJTV–Klavin is great!
well, * P-H*, they are not getting any support from you now, so what else is new?
"We voted for a change in 2008, we got the change. Accept our votes or shut up about freedom from now on."
P=H
you voted for 'American Idol', category, 'Politics'!
got what you wanted, so shut up and watch your 'show'
Planet_Hero–You should go to PJ-TV and watch Klavin on the Culture the one called 'Shut-Up' it is so you!
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