New Attorney General: We’re A Nation of Cowards
by Bill WillinghamI haven’t been posting lately, because deadlines are well and truly on me. But here’s a quick note about something that caught my eye today.
According to the new Attorney General, Eric Holder, speaking today at the Justice Department, we’re a nation of cowards because we don’t talk about race enough. I have several responses to that grotesque statement, most of which aren’t printable. But I will say this much: If the past discussions about race in which I’d participated (voluntarily and otherwise) didn’t always – not often, not most of the time, but always – devolve into name calling, where I was denounced as a racist (usually as a starting point for said conversation), then I might today be more willing to continue to have discussions on the subject. I suspect I’m not alone in this.
In my experience, anyone who doesn’t immediately and enthusiastically subscribe to the idea that all American whites are active oppressors against other races is an irredeemable racist. Of course if you do agree you’re still a racist, just one of the self confessed variety.
In the interests of full and fair disclosure, I’m apparently also a misogynist, a homophobe, and a Nazi, this according to folks (some of whom were friends and colleagues) upon finding out that I have problems with feminism, gay marriage, and gun control. There were other accusations I could list, given time, but the truth is such incidents are too common and never important enough to be worth devoting too much of my time and memory.
So here’s my response to our distinguished public servant.
Dear Mr. Holder: serious and thoughtful conversations about race aren’t possible in today’s American culture, where name-calling and hurled epithets are the acme of discourse. Name-calling is a conversation ender. Always. And here’s some more cold water to pour on your notion: Name-calling is the proprietary weapon of the left. There’s no equality of blame, no comparison. We on the right aren’t “just as bad.”
That’s why I don’t play your silly games anymore. I only ever talk about important matters like race and gender politics with those for whom there is still the possibility of serious discourse and reasoned debate. Once again, I suspect I’m not alone in this. Your side has taken itself out of the game, and until such time as you on the left can get your house in order, you aren’t worth a reasonable man’s time or effort.
Here’s a hint though. Calling everyone a coward isn’t a good place to start.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to live my life, free of prejudice, never oppressing anyone, hating no one on a group basis, and not participating in your cloud cuckoo world of vicious and hateful pan-victimology, where even making funny faces is now a crime worthy of multi-billion dollar lawsuits. Your world is no longer a serious one, and I’m no longer interested in wasting my valuable time there.
Best of luck though.





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I agree, we ARE a Nation of Cowards
http://www.rkba.org/comment/cowards.html
I agree, we ARE http://www.rkba.org/comment/cowards.html
I agree, we ARE a Nation of Cowards.
http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/library/cowards...
The time when we could have done something passed long ago. There is no possibility of going back on the offensive against political correctness — PC has already won.
right now i'm watching some cartoonist at the new york post get crucified. i think people are deliberately misinterpreting his work as a racist assault on obama. i see the thing as a version f the old "thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters" gag. i've used it myself. and it's directed at the writers of the spending bill, reid and pelosi.
it's going to be a long four years. each time i make a joke about obama i have to pause and wonder if at any time in the last 300 years a racist has ever used a similar metaphor.
http://www.attackcartoons.com
Kudos, Bill!
I grow tired of the talking about race (or gender issues) because far too often, the fact that I am an educated white male means I am incapable of understanding the discrimination and thus, my opinions and views are not relevant.
Yep, I love being part of a discussion where I am talked at, and not with.
Holter's remarks are disgusting. In fact, they're quite racist.
S/B ^^ Holder, not "Holter".
Attorney General Holder wants to see a coward? Tell him to look in the damned mirror.
Damn! Nothing sickens me more than seeing a racist accuse others of racism while hiding behind his race. That has so many evils attached to it – cowardice, hypocrisy, etc. – that my head's spinning.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Nice, Bill. I share your sentiments. And the words i have for Eric Holder and all the race-baiters out there, black or white, are, I daresay, even less printable than yours., lol.
We are a nation of cowards – however he is mistaken as to which side of the political isle that name applies and not in regards to race. For crying out loud, we have a (half)black President, yet people are still using race as a crutch?
Vic
Jake — With your white flag displayed so prominently, one might take you…for a Frenchman.
'What you mean 'we', kimosabe?'
Speak for yourself.
On of the dumbest comments from this administration yet, and that is saying alot. Cowards on the left do not want to or "can't handle the truth" when it comes to race issues. Until the facts are faced by all, especially liberal blacks, the issue and so called cowardice will continue. The truth cannot be spoken or one is deemed a racist, by stating facts. Holder is nothing but thug anyway, he belongs in the NBA or ACORN.
We don't talk enough about race "honestly," Mr. Holder, due to the cowardice on the part of the race-card holders.
If Holder wanted to show us true courage, he could have made his remarks before his confirmation.
Okay, Mr. Holder – I'll bite. Since we now have a black president, and you would agree that there has been a strong sense of social liberation to come with it, can we now expect the majority of black children to be born from married couples? Can we expect the percentage of blacks among the male prison population to resemble something closer to the general population (12-20%)? Assuming Obama goes two terms, can we reasonably expect this to be accomplished by, say, 2017?
Is this the kind of frank discourse you were seeking?
Not to worry – I think I know the answer.
I was blasted by some PC-armed (former) friends a few years ago for having the audacity to call a spade a spade. I know, the horror. The best they could come up with when I supplied the phrase's non-racist origin: "Oh well, even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut." Yeah, a lovely bunch. I did mention "former" friends, right?
So let me get this straight…America is a cowardly nation because we don't sit around contemplating racial "issues"? This from the crowd that have made it abundantly clear that my opinion on their "community" doesn't matter because of my melanin content? This from the bunch that continue to pick at the scab of racism as a method of self-egrandizement and personal wealth creation? This from the indiviuals who will preach racial unity on Thursday and then on Friday, attend events clearly designed to segregate themselves and their victim-mentality myrmidons from their fellow countrymen? This from a gaggle of mental midgets who blanched at the idea that they were basing their support for their beloved Teleprompter-in-Chief because of his skin tone, yet couldn't pick out the bulk of his policies unless they were accompanied by enough bass to dislodge Rosie O'Donnell from the buffet line at Golden Corral? Interesting concept there, Mr. Holder. Seems to me the greater coward here is the individual who can look at this nation, see the strides that perviously downtrodden minorities have made, and still see nothing but white-sheeted boogeymen lurking behind every corner.
Well, look what happened to Bil Cosby. If he can't have a racial conversation, who can?
So far the race baiting hasn't played a much of a role in the Obama administration. Statements like these from Holder suggests it might down the road. If they want to go there, I think they'll regret it. It's a can of worms.
America isn't (and never was) a white/black society. Other groups have their axes to grind. And not just against white people. If they try to play the white guilt card, that may have got them elected, but it's going to disenfranchise a lot of Obama supporters if they keep it up.
When times get even tougher, as they might, a lot of anger is going to boil over and they would be smart not to fan any flames.
How is this one Mr. Holder:
Content of character not color of skin. TRY THAT ONE ONCE! This is race baiting at its worse.
So glad a man in his position has pre-judged us all. Thanks for the heads-up.
And I thought justice was blind.
"Pan-victimology"… very snappy (and at deadline no less).
Is this guy stupid? We just had the Daytona 500. People have been talking about the race for about a month! We have the INDY 500 coming up and the Kentucky Derby, NYC & Boston Marathon. I'll race him anytime anywhere he chooses at a ice rink on ice skates!
A comment on a different post about this Holder incident summed it up rather nicely, I thought:
"The reason Americans don’t “talk enough” about race is because race isn’t an issue unless you are racist."
Someone should tell these race-baiters that all race cards expired at 12:01 pm on Jan. 20, 2009.
I thought Obama was the post-race, post-partisan President? So far, I'm kinda not seein' it.
Hope and Change FOR IMPEACHMENT – bottom line this guy reflects his own anger and that same anger that Obama keeps hidden so very well.
Bill Cosby has been trying to have that conversation for years, and all it's gotten him is vile insults.
This from those who are running the country.
This from those who won.
This from those who will tell you how you are going to pay.
The first black Attorney General of the U.S. nominated by the most powerful man in the world, an African-American who was elected by a 65% white nation.
Cowards? No.
The real cowards are the blacks on the left who help enslave their people on the Democratic plantation that does not educate, enlighten or otherwise promote their well-being in any way.
If 300 fearless students/activists at a left leaning university held demonstrations against political correctness, occupied the university president's office until removed by the police or until he/'she denounced the Womens/black/gay studies departments as government funded left wing indoctrination centers, then we'd be a long way towards banishing political correctness in this country. If it happened at 10 universities PC would soon be dead once and for all. The fact that this is an unheard of scenareo just shows that Holder is absolutely correct.
You have to stand up for what you believe in spite of fear of arrest or lawsuit. The red diaper left does, why not the conservative right?
Holder's not the one who has to sit through 3+ hours a week listening to a barely literate woman spout drivel about how all Americans are rascist. I have been instructed, by said woman, that if I buy Aunt Jemima syrup then I am… a rascist person promoting black enslavement. Also, Uncle Ben's rice is abominable.
And, I can't graduate from my university without passing this class. Heh, are we not talking about it enough?? The many wasted hours of my life (and money I pay for the class) spent in that classroom listening to crap (she gets her stat's from ACORN, nuff said) are lost forever to me. Holder can shove his nonsense rhetoric where the sun don't shine. B*stard.
The high road's quieter. You can get more real work done.
A tired argument that Holder can't seem to get past. Time to move on.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
This Democrat administration hack does not say these outrageous comments accidentally- comments such as this one from Eric Holder are purposely put out there to further the myth of epidemic white racism.
Holder's clear promotion of this false perception serves to keep America separated, agitated, and keep different racial groups suspicious and at odds with each other. The purpose is for no reason other than to characterize ordinary, rational people of good will as guilty, racist creeps, whose every opinion is to be considered vile and invalid.
This race-baiting strategy is advantageous for Obama/ Holder's fascist criminal socialist policy objectives, making them much more difficult to criticize when the criticism is directed at Holder or Obama, themselves being of a race with automatic liberal victim status.
Dont fall for this racist ploy by Obama, Holder, and their ilk.
Speak your truth regardless of this false side issue.
Holder, we already know that there is no level you wont stoop to in order to serve your criminally sick career and yourcriminal buddies like the Clintons and Democrats in Congress.
CC,
Many moons ago I used to buy the Northern toilet paper that had the black baby on the wrapper. They also had white babies, but by getting that one, it was like a racism innoculation. I don't see them nowadays.
Being called a coward means so much coming from a guy that authorized federal agents to drag out an 8 year old boy from a house at gunpoint.
I went through school as an, Irish-English-Danish-German American male, constantly being bombarded with the notion that I was somehow responsible for every social injustice under the sun. As a white male I was responsible for slavery and keeping the black man down. I was also responsible for keeping women in the kitchen and for slaughtering Native Americans. Not to mention interring Japanese-Americans during WW II. I was stunned to find out how busy I had been and not even known it.
Slavery is not some cruel notion thought up by Americans and only practiced here, it exists through out history in all cultures. I'm not condoning slavery in any way shape or form, it's deplorable and disgusting at every level, however, it is part of American history as well as world history.
What about the outrage at the Native American tribes who routinely took slaves from other tribes they defeated in battle. It was that very same practice by the Zulu tribe in Africa that brought Africans to Americas shore and many other countries as well
According to the 1860 US census of the 15 slave states only 4.8% of the southern citizens had slaves. Slave owners were in the extreme minority. My ancestors never owned slaves they were indentured servants.
MLK "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." People like the Rev. Jesse Jackson has turned such a thought provoking statement on its head. Where everything is about the color of ones skin and not the content of their character.
Now, let's not get nasty!!
Were did you get such dangerous ideas?
Actually, I had a fun experience in lawschool. In an in-class debate about a couple of old cases dealing with legal discrimination, I started quoting Martin Luther King. A black student then jumped up and said that what I had said (a direct quote mind you) was racist and insensitive. When I pointed out that this was a MLK quote, I got a blank stare followed by "I doubt that."
If you want to experience full on hate, try law school. They've added anger, victimology and weapons grade ignorance into a very toxic mixture that is all kinds of unpleasant.
Our first African-American chief law inforcement officer kicks off Black History Month with some hopey changey racially charged marching orders to the troops – call it a trial balloon on the upcoming Integration Anti-Cowardice Act of 2010 legislation. I wonder how many Justice Dept new hires got the memo in their personnel orientation?
I look forward to Gary Graham assisting Congressional Quarterly with some insightful reporting!
I couldn't agree more MadRocketScientist. Come on Mr. Holder race isn't talked about??? Perhaps it's time to turn on the TV and watch the news for about 15 minutes, race most assuredly will come up at some point. Actually never mind that, where do you live Mr. Holder? I want to move there.
Oh, who cares about being called a coward? He's a jerk, his opinion is irrelevant.
No, I care about the fact that academia is so obsessed with "discussing race" that I cannot graduate without spending approx. $3,000 on a class called "American Cultures: Race and Representation", which has not one damn thing to do with a degree in European History. And, might I add that your tax dollars are paying for that class for every student with federal financial aid.
And, I'm sorry but I don't think the iconic image of a strong, nurturing but strict, black mother is particularly rascist. Nor do I think that the Obama presidency is a new level of racism. My money and time are spent being told that raising the standards of achievement for black people (see: Obama presidency) is racist.
Or am I just innoculated??
You and Holder are both right.
My wife is Asian. Her family cannot stand me, and could not accept me, from the very beginning because I am NOT Asian. After 15 years and more, I have made NO progress at all in getting these people to accept me. They have NO friends other than Asians, they have flatly stated to their kids that they are NOT to intermarry (that means their children, who are all grown now, are not to marry a black, white, hispanic, Middle Easterner, or even any Asian other than their own kind.
I did not realize this kind of racism existed in this day and age but of course I was naive in the extreme, I guess. So Holder is right, but it is not just "white" people who self-segregate. Trying to connect with these people was and is impossible. The word "Nazi" was thrown at me Thanksgiving Day, 2000, apparently because they were angry about the election.
How can we ever come together when this kind of garbage continues?
But, yes, TugboatPhil…. I absolutely believe that anyone who buys a particular brand of syrup (see: Aunt Jemima) is racist. And, also that the name "Jemima" is racist. Ooh, and can't forget that the image of any woman with a kerchief on her head is a direct link to black enslavement. I guess when women cleaning their houses decide to keep their hair off their face with a kerchief, it's an abusive and derogatory gesture against black people.
I guess I should never, ever, ever buy anything that has a logo containing a black person or I will become so innoculated to racism that I'll inadvertently join the Klan, or something equally heinous.
I was in a conversation with my niece, who was in her second year of college at the time, challenging her notion that just because I am white I am a racist. I pointed out that it is one thing to spout off about "injustice" and "equality" and yet another to actually put your money where your mouth is. I challenged her to do like I did, and marry out of your race and culture. See how much fun it is. See what kind of garbage gets thrown your way. Of course, she didn't have the guts to respond or to ever do it. Perhaps now that she has a graduate degree from a prestigious private university, she'll see fit to take that challenge, but I doubt it.
LOL!!!
hmmm…
Let me add this:
Don't mean to piss anyone off… Just got a little bit angry today when I found out exactly how much propaganda and indoctrination cost at a Catholic university. Holder's crap didn't help.
Oh, I should mention, of course, that I am white. However, I also have a black friend (what a concept) who married into an Asian family. He got exactly the same treatment. Take the beam out of your own eye, Holder, before you start talking about the tiny sliver in mine.
Ah, I remember the 'good-old-days' in college. I feel your pain.
Getting it off your chest helps. Go have a cup of tea, you'll feel better.
He should (and probably is) speak for himself.
What can I say, the guy is a twerp
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To your example EP,
Isn't it interesting how the people that interpret racist and sexist undertones to most of what they hear, then turn around and call everyone else bigots.
I seldom think of any issue in terms of race…until I get drawn into a "conversation" with these TRULY racially bigoted people who see EVERYTHING through a race/gender prism
John,
Since the PC "white people = oppressors" doctrine has been taught in high schools and universities for well over 3 decades now, I think that we have created a society where most light-skinned people are raised to be sensitive to others' cultures, etc. but ethnic minorities (Asians, Hispanics, Blacks) are not.
This is VERY evident if you live in an area of the country dominated by one of these ethnic groups. I lived in an area of southern Arizona that was >50% Hispanic, and found my Hispanic friends and neighbors there to be EXTREMELY racist (mostly toward Asians and blacks), sexist and homophobic. Hell, just watch Univision if you need proof.
We are "for the most part racially integrated in the American workplace, but not so in our personal lives?"
Perhaps you should just do your job as an overgrown lawyer and leave who I have over for a barbeque to me. How many white folks you have over for dinner this last year yourself? I am only friends with people, including blacks, that don't constantly hang everything on their race or sexuality. Forget calling America cowards and go find another nation that will treat you and your "people" to a lifetime of apologies and fruitbaskets for your troublesome times in this horrible nation that has elected a half black man to POTUS and who tolerates someone like yourself calling us all cowards as you hide behind the color of your own skin. Good day.
http://www.glorious-revolution.blogspot.com
I am a coward for not talking about race? I talk about race and because I do, I am immediately labeled a racist because I am a white conservative male. If i don't talk about race, I am ignoring the most henous trespass on man since the world began. I am sick of being called a racist by racists. If Mr. Holder wants to get together and gripe about the racists in the world, let him. Let him do it with his friends. Let me live my life. If you want to start calling names, I've got a few for you sir. And none of them are racist.
Yeah, I get kinda pissed also when people call America a "cowardly" nation.
Holder sucks. Why does every Attorney General have to be a douche? Obama should have appointed Judge Judy.
Yeah…..I always get that same response when I tell people that Dr. King had registered as a Republican – LOL!
I'm serious, btw.
She shouldbe Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
I'll be brave once Mr Holder arranges the pardon for some my shadier friends.
We can haggle about the size of the donation to the DNC afterwards.
Will "white ever do whats right?"…lol
I for one am beyond fed up with the race card that has been pulled on white people for all of my life,
Every movie or t.v. program that deals with race in any way is only made to make whites feel guilty about the past and enable black people to be victims!
For instance as far as movies go, i liked GLORY very much, but was i the only one that was offended by the white boy comments? and the only black carracter in the movie that had been around white people most of his life was a #@ssy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And about REMEMBER THE TITANS , another good movie but, had the typical southern white stereotypes, (you know when the stupid white BOY finally figured out the mamma jokes). and how they only came together after the white kids started acting more black? hmmm!
I am through, i am through with this b.s. it is over for me i will never again feel guilty for the racism of the past, i do not care anymore. we have a black president and that now ends it!! To quote a great man, FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY , THIS WHITE BOY (NOW WHITE MAN!) IS FREE AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm curious… do you remember what the quote was?
Speaking of cowardice, how about these statistics (culled from the Justice Department's statistics, of which Eric Holder, the Attorney General, is in charge):
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Perhaps we SHOULD be cowards. What the attorney general fails to talk about is the real reason whites avoid blacks — because we want to avoid crime and, hopefully, stay alive.
Of course, I somehow don't believe this was the conversation about race the attorney general WANTED us to have…
I believe most non-blacks understand than when they are told to "discuss race", that just means for them to listen and nod their head.
We're not interested. Most of us don't have any hangups about skin color anyway, so why should we listen to a sermon?
I'm a racist, Eric. Come visit me and I'll prove it. Truthy enough for you?
Now that you point out the connection it seems somewhat defensable. The paper failed to do this and most poeple, I believe, couldn't figure out what the heck they were tyring to say.
Thank-you for posting here Mr. Willingham. Believe it or not I have been a fan of your since waaaay back when you did art in things like "Slave Pits of the Undercity" , I still have it in a box somewhere
Anyway, liberals only interact with liberals because conservatives are stupid or evil, so to them they are surrounded by cowards, political correctness is the ultimate cowardice
Rae
In order to get my MA I was forced to take a class about race, class & gender in America. AG Holder might want to stop by a few colleges and universities before he opens his trap and starts throwing out insults. Why would I want to have a conversation about race with people who thought America was worse than Nazi Germany (which is exactly what I heard during that race indoctrination class I had to take)?
Besides I though electing "The One" was supposed to get us beyond all this. Whatever happened to all that "hope and change" we were promised?
Let's make nice nice with Islamic Jihadists who want us dead.
Let's make nice with North Korea, because they're psycho.
Let's be nice to Iran.
Cowards – yes, the Democrats are Cowards, I agree.
But he needs to use the singular when he says this, not the plural.
I'm no coward.
Speak for yourself, Holder.
The New York Post monkey business dovetails beautifully with the Holder remarks. I posted about it over at Infinite Monkeys — http://blog.infinitemonkeysblog.com/?q=node/6204. You're right, crash. The bottom line is, a crazed monkey wrote the stimulus bill. And explaining the punch line always ruins the joke.
[...] that amused, right now. I feel like I’m watching a Keystone Kops version of the Wehrmacht goose-stepping down Pennsylvania Ave., with a propped-up quisling media corps (aka “the Clown Brigade”) flashing [...]
I'll bet my chunk of bailout money that he's not talking about minorities in general with that comment either. How "post-racial."
I'll bet my chunk of bailout money that he's not including minorities in that comment.. How "post-racial."
Lord if only. HA!
Hey Andrew can I get my check now?
Look at how freaked out you're getting….that was his point. Americans cannot talk about our nations race issues without:
(1) Whites getting defensive, screaming about white burden & denying the lasting effects of Slavery
(2) African Americans getting frustrated, angry at continued racism & shocked at those who deny it's existence
Those are the reactions of cowards. Brave men don't fear debate. Brave men don't fear having their views proven wrong. Brave men don't fear truth, they embrace it…they reject "Lie to Win" as a debate strategy.
Brave men stand up for Universal Truths..truths like, "all men are created equal"
So who's brave..they guy who wants to honestly talk about & confront a problem…or the guy who wants to deny the problem, deny history & deny his own actions?
On election day 23% of Americans "feared" that our new President was "Arab", "a Muslim" or "a Socialist". Nearly a decade into the 21 Century…and we continue to allow that level of ignorance to fester.
Brave men wouldn't stand for it. We ARE cowards on this issue.
To a Liberal, if you DON'T consider race, you're a racist. Go figure.
X: so you think maybe "Mr. Jocelyn Elder" is angling for reparations or something similar?
We were arguing about criminal law. Our very liberal Constitutional law professor asked whether it was "right" to apply the same criminal standards to suburban whites and to inner city blacks. A group of black students jumped on this and said, that it was not fair because inner city blacks live in such a horrible, violent surrounding that "they can't be held culpable" for their behavior. I disagreed, saying that we're all responsible for our own actions. I used the following quote:
"Man is man because he is free to operate within the framework of his destiny. He is free to deliberate, to make decisions, and to choose between alternatives. He is distinguished from animals by his freedom to do evil or to do good and to walk the high road of beauty or tread the low road of ugly degeneracy."
And I was promptly attacked for being racist. When I said this was a direct quote from King, I was told, "I doubt that."
"Your side has taken itself out of the game, and until such time as you on the left can get your house in order, you aren’t worth a reasonable man’s time or effort."
Truer words have never been spoken. IMO the left has not been interested in actual discourse for several years now, unless hateful spewing of dogma counts as discourse.
I showed my wife wife the same cartoon, and she wondered if they would be called racists for saying obama is a monkey. I pointed out to her that congress writes the laws, & therefore they are the monkeys, not obama. She said they would be called racists anyway. Apparently, she was right. Ishould have known that onlyu racists call people racist, just as only cheap people notice who is being cheap!
If he did, coward would be the wrong description. Spineless, greedy, Clinton lackey, sellout, hypocrite, race-baitor….those would work much better.
Just be glad you didn't marry into a Middle-Eastern family. The traditionalists tend to be a bit harsher in showing their disappointment.
Obviously you have not encountered inner city minorities. They will make your head spin by making every sentence of every subject racial, then a moment later they will denounce you for speaking aloud. I am white and have worked in minority majority areas for over twenty years. Racism is quite alive, but most of it is antiwhite. After getting abused multiple times, you learn to just smile & ignore the racist morons, because they refuse to know the truth. If you make your decisions based on race, you're a racist. If you make your decision based on the actions and character of the people you see, you're not a racist. See how simple it can be????????????
jana,
That is a brilliant thought you had. I hope you don't mind if I use it myself. Oh and by the way, if he has to claim to be post partisan, he isn't. It is just like declaring you're not a square. If you have to say it, you're a square!!!!!!!
I spent much of 1964 getting broken bones and scars from a redneck sheriff who didn't like my stand on civil rights in Mississippi. Much of my legal career was devoted to criminal defense cases where African-Americans were being selectively prosecuted. I'm no coward, nor are my friends and associates. We love debate. But being called a coward and a racist by those who talk the talk but never had to walk the walk is deplorable. Debate on race today is comprised entirely of a white person making a statement about affirmative action, welfare, crime, the economy or any of a host of subjects and being responded to with the debate-ending "you're a racist." If being pissed-off about being called a coward and a racist by people who were born twenty to thirty years after we civil rights workers, black and white, put our bodies on the line is defensive–then so be it! .
logic: be my guest!
And yes, there is racism in America. Show me a country where there isn't any racism, and I'll show you Shangri-La. I don't deny history–I lived it. I don't deny my own actions–I'm proud of them (and rather surprised that I had that much courage). And I don't deny there's a problem. The problem is people who have a particular position, and when you disagree with it, they cover their ears and shout "Nyah, nyah, hyah, you're a racist." Walking away from that isn't fear, it's just common sense. And I never feared that Obama was a socialist. I know that he is, and I acted on it. So I guess that qualifies me as a defensive racist and a coward. I probably should add "fascist" since that's the other insult du jour.
i'm not that familiar with the post's cartoonist. but if he really wanted to be racist, he could have done a much better job. i understand the sensitivity to a point. but i'm already seeing any criticism of obama labeled as bigoted. want to take a stand against this sort of hysteria/bullying. save the outrage for something real.
i remember a few years back the L.A. Weekly running caricatures of colin powell and condileeza rice as apes. i was the only one who seemed to notice. but leftists get a free pass on this sort of thing.
So sad, and unfortunately so true.
When I told my neice that I didn’t like rap music, she immediately told me that I must be a racist. So I responded by saying that I didn’t like country music either and wanted to know what that made me. In true liberal fashion, she had no response because there is no thought behind the name-calling.
The AP article indicates Mr. Holder told his staff they have a special responsibility to advance racial understanding. Perhaps they can help me understand this… Check out the Extended Brawl Video.
http://www.wsfa.com/global/story.asp?s=9859983
I wish Holder would STFU. Do we need to talk about Rev Wright or ACORN?
*Sigh* I guess we know how the Obama administration is going to handle all criticism.
What really bugs me about leftist style name calling is that it distracts from the issues– which is the point I expect. Sarah Palin showed *real* courage IMO by being so up-front with her pro-life stance. Obama doesn't even have the guts to take a firm stance on gay marriage. I swear I'm still trying to figure out where the man stands on most issues– he literally speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Anyway. Palin never wavered in stating her views and she backed it up with her real-life choice to have her Down Syndrome baby. But does the Left respect Palin for her courage? Not at all. They viciously attack her for actually putting her money where her mouth is. I guess the Left doesn't *really* care about courage. They just like to pretend they do.
It's unfortunate, but great job pointing out the REALITY – and with facts.
*Sigh* I guess we know how the Obama administration is going to handle all criticism.
What really bugs me about leftist style name calling is that it distracts from the issues– which is the point I expect. Sarah Palin showed *real* courage IMO by being so up-front with her pro-life stance — many politicians try to be as vague as possible on this one. Obama doesn't even have the guts to take a firm stance on gay marriage. I swear I'm still trying to figure out where the man stands on most issues– he literally speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Anyway. Palin never wavered in stating her views and she backed it up with her real-life choice to have her Down Syndrome baby. But does the Left respect Palin for her courage? Not at all. They viciously attack her for actually putting her money where her mouth is. I guess the Left doesn't *really* care about courage. They just like to pretend they do.
Why is it never mentioned how many Northern soldiers died to save the union and thereby support the end of slavery? I mean, they were white. My American ancestors did this. Why are no Abolitionists mentioned in discussions of American history? They worked their asses off.
Well–now I've heard the actual speech. I've fired off a letter to Mr. Holder. It contains the following message: "How dare you?" I can borrow a line from Lloyd Bentsen when I say "I knew Martin Luther King, and you, sir, are no Martin Luther King." The reality is that I only knew Dr. King from one of many mass meetings he conducted during '63 and '64, and I was only one of hundreds of civil rights workers who heard his words. His words to us presaged his later "I have a dream" speech. But I now remember where I got the courage to walk into the lion's den. I got it from him. So once more I say to Mr. Holder: "How dare you?" And furthermore, I would be delighted to debate him, provided he agrees in advance not to call me a racist in exchange for which I will not call him a race-baiter.
Perhaps he knows something about being a coward. Freeing terrorists to help Clinton. Instead of him having a back bone.
Mr. Holder obviously has not picked up a copy of the "Washington Post" for, oh, four decades or so. I challenge anyone to research the WaPo's archives for the last several decades and find an issue that does not contain some kind of race-baiting article designed to satisfy and feed the grievance culture its DC demographic.
I think we are in for a massive national dose of "diversity training" as this administration and Mr. Holder's tenure as AG launch and slide down the ways into a sea of liberal guilt. I agree with other posters above who say it is not possible to have a discussion on race in this country for several important reasons. Among those are: everything that can be said has been said; "discussions" on race mean white males must admit their guilt about everything that offends blacks so I, like most other weary white males, choose not to engage; and, I refuse to participate in ridiculous discussions on reparations and ebonics, just to name two of the many surreal topics about our "cowardice."
On second thought:
Maybe I will choose to participate in discussions on race as long as it is "fair and balanced." Would Mr. Holder be willing to discuss, among other things: the massive taxpayer ripoff of hiring unqualified blacks to occupy "administrative assistant" positions in the Federal Triangle, so many of whom I observe playing solitaire on their computers whenever I pass their desks; the outrageous percentage of blacks born out of wedlock into single mother homes; black crime rates; black high school drop out rates; horrific black rap broadcast on FCC-licensed airwaves so full of racial invective and language so foul and mysoginistic as to make a bosun's mate blush; Michael Vick; and…there is insufficient room here to list them all. Need I go on?
And now for something completely different: How come we have heard zilch in the MSM about the phrase "spread the wealth around" as Congress gave birth to the Iowa State Fair Grand Champion Hog aka, "the stimulus bill?"
So it's payback time? Or perhaps it's better to describe it for what it is; revenge. What a qaint little concept…but like a pendulum, it will swing away. Tick-toc….
Don't forget,
Holder (Demagogue-NY) et ilk continue harvesting surrogate agents for the revolution (abandooned for capitalism by "the Workers" long ago).
Without such agents, for whom to 'advocate', the socialist fantasy (brainwash) comes crashing to earth.
That, of course, compels Alinskyite Obama(wimp)'s desperate "Dreams of My Father" capitalist-deconstructionism.
Fancy that!
Which is most cowardly:
1.) Eric Holder declaring "America is a nation of cowards"?
2.) Asking Eric Holder if he feels Americans think he and his boss are, therefore, simply 'uppity' "[N-words]"?
3.) Modern Liberals (a.k.a., self-congratulatory "victims")?
Instead of talking about race, how's about we talk about that Marc Rich pardon?
Talking about race is like talking about sexuality. "Too much information!!!" I don't want to know. In the workplace, it is an inappropriate topic. Outside of the workplace, I am free to associate with whom I please. Why would I want to discuss politics, religion, race, or sexuality with someone that I do feel it is "safe to share?"
It seems that the "African-Americans" are the only people in the world who want to talk about race. Nobody else cares. No one else gives a s–t. Want to talk about race? OK Here is my contribution. "Get over it!" Read Thomas Sowell and make something of yourself with relying on welfare, reparations, or Affirmative Action.
…without relying…
Who knows. I would just expect him to focus on bigger issues than this but after his comments on race, I'm not so sure he can.
Well, Will, we all admire your courage and it is obvious that the point of your post is to show what a brave, tough, openminded guy you are.
But it's obvious that you don't know or care what Holder really said, because he went on to declare that criticism of affirmative action (that is, racism in favor of minorities – I'm sure you admire my courageous talk on this subject – right, Will?) is out of bounds.
So what this incompetent or corrupt (see his own account of his role in the Clinton pardons) poser really means – as I suspect you do as well – is that we all need to take the positions he dictates and anything else is cowardly.
No thanks.
I can't remember, did Condoleezza Rice ever make race a central issue in any of her dealings as Secretary of State?
Holder means everyone that does not look like him is a "coward". Ha, Ha, Ha!
Right on, Bill. Anyone who promiscuously hurls the word "racist" should immediately receive a 50,000 volt jolt.
I disagree with Holder on this one. I think people today have more prejudices against differing classes. You could even see it outright ugly during the election when the left hurled insults at plain folks like me. Hollywood does it all of the time looking down on the "little people." As an example, one of my friends who is AFrican-American told me something her mother had said, "they might be our color, but they are not our kind." Something to think about.
This is just another part of the liberal playbook and it must be crushed. Racism exist in this world, and will always exist. Tolerance and respect for another human being directly correlates with experience, and is mutually earned. I believe the election Obama proves without question that we are not nearly as racist as the Jesse Jackson’s, and Al Sharpton’s of the world would have us believe, and screaming racist all of the time is the hob-goblin of the simple mind, and only serves to rile up the stupid, and ignorant.
cont:
As a white conservative the one part of the election I see as kinda cool is the fact that new president is a black man, I wish him no ill will, but I don’t want his policies to succeed, oh well. Why couldn’t it have been, as one of your earlier writers expressed, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, et al? We as Americans must push back on all of the negative, “ism’s, and phobia’s,” and begin to regain true public discourse based on American Ingenuity, and yes, Exceptionalism. Freezing history in 1964, and the continued Balkanization is a fatal flaw, and I fear could be the demise of the USA and then what would be the alternative. Power vacuums tend to be filled, the question is with what? Certainly nothing as brilliant, and considered as was left to us by our founders. For the sake of our children and grandchildren we must put 60’s radicalism back in the bottle, and move forward as a unified people or surely we will divide, then what?
Why does the AG believe that race has to be discussed ALL THE TIME. Seriously, my family immigrated here in the early 1900's. Race is not important to me. It means nothing. I don't need to discuss it because there are actually real issues in our country. If the POTUS, AG, and the entire left want to continue to talk about race, they can all move to the same city, and have their own debates, by themselves. I have better things to do.
And Holder, how many African-Americans have been appointed to Obama's administration? Would you say he's a coward when it comes to race?
I am soooooooo sick of this. The blacks in this country should be thanking the USA for slavery. Not only are they born here but the slaves back then were in one of the first countries to get rid of slavery. (Among the last of the firsts)
You should be paying us
I am sooooooooo sick of this. The blacks in this country should be thanking the USA for slavery. Not only are they born here but the slaves back then were in one of the first countries to get rid of slavery. (Among the last of the firsts)
You should be paying us
Especially if you watch PBS. If that were all you ever saw you would be convinced that this Nation is comprised of about 95% Blacks but have discriminated against and kept down by the 5% remaining "races". Every month is Black History Month on PBS.
Coed, sounds like one of those stupid credit classes I had to take years ago.. where we basically ended up having to watch the opening scenes of Dumbo, and the "instructor" (who had the definite appearance of a 60's hippie still (in the 90's — How he managed to get on the Air Force Base (USM held classes at Keesler AFB at the time.) without getting harassed, I'll never know) pointed out that all the circus workers were "black shadows", and that because of that Disney was a racist nazi himself.
It's one of the few times I think I ever got in real trouble with a college professor for arguing against his point of view (I pretty much nearly got thrown out of the class for that one… and I needed the credits, so I just kind of kept my mouth shut for the rest of the semester…. ). Even had to suffer through that stupid book about workers in the United States (forget the name of it.. the one that even Matt Damon "highlighted" as being a must-read…. I've still got it in my house somewhere buried, why I've never thrown it out, I'll never know.)
Again, saying that WE are a nation of cowards brands every US resident. This is a rather broad swipe, don't you think? Some folks DO have an issue with a discussion of race. Frankly, in general, it is not worth having, as nothing changes position for many.
I am totally comfy having a "conversation" on race, since I have so little sense it will make any difference. I tis like talking about the weather.
IF Holder wanted to further the racial conversation, he could have easily reframed his comments as encouraging and supportive, He chose to make it a big make wrong. What is HIS area of fear?
While Guilt??? I don't have any. Wasn't here for the slavery deal, neither were my ancestors. They were over in Europe, trying not to get gassed by Hitler.
So, what am I guily about again?
"f he really wanted to be racist, he could have done a much better job"
EXACTLY!
I mean, wouldn't the more racist caption be: "Great. Now we get four years of Joe Biden?"
Oooh… Finally, John Galt shows himself!! He's here to save the world, with his pet attack rat, Eric.
Yet another reason why I"m such a Willingham fan – the man speaks the truth, PC be damned.
Claymore…very nicely said..I find myself reading as much as I can on political sites these days and perhaps I do it to look for the words of others to mirror my own feelings….I am surprised at how much anger I have for the actions of the new administration and now note the daily changes that could and probably will occurr to our nation…At age 62 It seems as everything I spent my life growing up believing and knowing about the good of this country is being trashed at a rate that is incomprehensible….but there's still the hope that it REALLY is a dream and when I wake up the President is Reagan…!
Thanks for this well written expression…!
I am getting really sick and tired of being called a racist. If Mister Holder wants to have a conversation about race I will give him a chance. There is a documentary called "A Conversation About Race" Which was done in Denver, CO. It's been out about a year. The producer has been trying to get it shown on the air in either the networks or PBS to no avail. The Denver area PBS station KBDI even went so far as to deliberately waste the producers time by pretending to be making arrangements for showing it when KBDI had no intention of doing so.
So Mr. Holder if you really want to have a conversation about race get a copy and insist it be shown on every PBS station in the country.
http://www.aconversationaboutrace.com/
I will be holding my breath
I am sick and tired of being ACCUSED because of the color of my skin! I am white so learn to live with it!
Good point, be-u-tful. Divide and conquer. Set the various groups in society against each other. Nice tyrannical technique.
And speaking the truth without fear is well said, to boot.
thats racist!!!!!! hes' half white!!!
It's time to call a spade a spade: Eric Holder is nothing more than a racist crook installed just like Janet Reno to allow Obama to get away with criminal behavior.
I love this! Ditto to EVERYTHING you wrote. This Republican spends weekdays AND weekends with "people of color" along with my white husband. (I'm white too.) Funny, we judge people based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. (sound familiar?) And we make our friends accordingly. And never EVER have I "congratulated" myself for having such a diverse group of good friends. If a human being brings something of value into my life, their skin color matters not. Try using that as a starting point for any discussion on race, you'll be branded a racist in no time. Great article!!!!!
You guys don't get it!!!!!!! Its' our fault for making them do that!!! I saw a hate crime during a Phoenix Suns game the other day……Zach Randolph Punched Lou Amundson…He got a 2 game suspension…Thats racial harmony!
But the new President is Hopey McChangeypants.
Mr. Holder, this coward wants to talk to you about race. When I hear Black America denounce the pursuit of education as "being white", I hear racism. When I hear Black America speak a language that is incomprehensible outside of the 'hood, I hear racism. When I hear Black American music that advocates killing police officers, I hear racism. When I hear someone like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, or yourself whine that we're still a racist country, I hear racism. When I hear someone call themelves an African-American instead of an American, I hear racism.
So, yeah, I guess you're right.
HA !!!!!! That is so true!!
I'm going to use that one!
Hahaha, awww, poor hippies. Obama left the pregnant promise in the air that if they just tossed his salad, that he'd stop the emotional abuse forever. But he appoints an asshat who pulls out the same baseless abuse.
You want to have a discussion, Mr. Holder? Okay. Controlling for IQ, every race makes about the same amount of money. Could you square that with your dogmatic position for me? Blacks commit violent crime on whites over forty times more often than the reverse on a per capita basis. Could you square that with your stupid "weekend segregation victimizes us" idiotry? Blacks commit rape on whites at a relative ratio that approches infinity to one. Could we have a rich discussion about this? Oh… no? Don't want to talk anymore, you goddamned hippie?
Bigot.
Just what I was thinking when I heard Al Sharpton's whining!
Yeah, its a nation of cowards – minority cowards! Try to talk to minorities and their leaders about real solutions to minority problems and they don't want to hear. They complain about their schools being 2nd rate – yet when we bring up solutions like charter schools, private schools, parochial schools, home schooling, vouchers – they don't want to hear it. Just more gov't funding and intervention, even though Wash DC which spends the most per pupil in the nation has some of the worst schools in the nation. They complain about crime but when we say lets lock up criminals they complain that too many minorities are being arrested.
Holder's the biggest coward and hypocrite of them all!
When one party can, will and has persecuted and prosecuted the other party for words and opinions, the second party will not participate.
Cowardice? It is called prudence and intelligence!!!!!
In the US, the intelligent white person does not subject himself/herself to the abrogation of his/her first amendment rights with regard to race by the professional victim society.
I prefer Dumbo HopeNChange
hardhead – how dare you exercise the truth – can't you see that the truth is not allowed by the ruler in the obamanation.
someone who gets their way by using a hammer (as seen by the professional victim groups) does not ever stop – no matter the facts, cause, justice or realities.
Race baiting in the US is the professional victim's business and source of fortune.
This is just leading up to reparations.
They will guilt the same wh!te people that voted out of guilt in the general election into agreeing to reparations.
I personally think the wh!te race in America will never be forgiven (for something that this generation had nothing to do with) by b[ack Americans. PERIOD.
B[acks will always demand respect from wh!tes.
BUT…
At the same time they take every opportunity to humiliate and disrespect wh!te people, and EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS TO BE TRUE.
And while b[acks have Al Sharpton, the naacp, the aclu, Jesse Jackson etc…, wh!tes have nobody to stand at the hilltop and talk about injustices…
Sadly, wh!tes are not allowed to have (non-rac!st) groups and organizations to represent THEM EXCLUSIVELY like all the other races in America.
Unfortunately, the Dumbo HopeNChange truth will not set you free
Unfortunately, the truth will set your fortune free, to the welfare set
Now since Holder is Attorny General of the US he needa to provoke to have an Issue he can prodevute.
If this is the Character and not the Color of the Skin, God help us all now.
It is tougher to waste the time for rioting and jail when you are working to pay the bill for the welfare, as foisted on Real Americans by the liberals and their professional victims.
That's because we white males "don't understand what it's like to be black." This is the default statement in the race dialogue. Black people have a problem with children out of wedlock? "You just don't understand what it's like to be black." Black teens killing each other in astronomical numbers? "You just don't understand what it's to be black."
Pretty good reasoning, if you've got a ham sandwich for a brain. By that logic, I'm pretty sure it would be okay to eliminate the white, oppressive menace by violence. I'm not too worried though, it's not as if the ghettos are filled with illegal arsenals and their denizens organized into bloodthirsty, paramilitary organizations…
Remember: It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.
Do away with affirmative action, college scholarships with racial requirements, the NAACP, all black and hispanic chambers of commerce and other such race centered institutions and we can begin to talk about who's being cowardly. If all men are created equal then why do people of any race need to be given a handicap score just to compete? This is what's cowardly Mr. Attorney General. Stop trying to "balance the deck" against perceived discrimination and you will find that most of the discrimination you see has simply been resentment against those of you who demand respect because or your color rather than asking for acceptance despite it.
Just as others have said in so many ways. People like this perpetuate racism and other types of discrimination simply by keeping the "issue alive". The more we talk about it, as Mr. Holder suggests, the more people there will be to disagree and argue about it. Out of sight out of mind IMO.
Stop making us relive the past and maybe, just maybe, we can finally put it behind us. Oh, but no, we have to have things like "black history month" so we can revisit the issue every year and you can continue to take pride in your color above all else. See it's not about the history so much as the "black" right? It's not enough to admire these people for what they did for society but we have to celebrate what they did for "black" people instead.
If your color means so much to you then fine but don't expect the rest of us to admire or respect you because of it. I look at the content of a mans character not the color of his skin.
Disagree with a liberal on the issue of race, no matter how accurate and well-intentioned the non-liberal statement is, the lib draws the "racist" pistol from his holster. Beyond that most disagreements with the liberal line evokes moral indignation or outright insult. You're against welfare, you are not compassionate. I no longer discuss politics with liberals. Arguing with religious fanatics is easier.
Ok Mr. Holder. I won't be coward. You pathetic piece of pro-terrorist, anti-American racist trash would not AG if you were not black. satisfied now?
Hard Headed Woman had a good point about the PBS point of view. Same problem at the LA Times and NPR. These dipsticks have no reality contact and don't want any.
We should definitely be bolder on issues of race.Let's begin by confronting the justification for affirmative action 145 years after the civil war and when we have a black President and a race baiting black AG
[...] Big Hollywood, Bill Willingham writes: Dear Mr. Holder: serious and thoughtful conversations about race aren’t possible in today’s [...]
Apropos: an abstract. You wanna talk racism and sexism? Read the pdf you can download from the link. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_i...
I wonder how it is you can say that the right isn't "just as bad" on this issue? What about people who support a woman's right to choose as baby-killers? Those who support gay marriage labeled as "trying to destroy America"? Or what about those who question excessive interrogation on the orders of the government as being "unamerican"? Let's not forget those who screamed and shouted that Obama was a terrorist, that he should be lynched, or that he was a traitor to the country at John McCain's political rallies.
You make a solid point about the discourse in this country resorting to name-calling and not being a worthwhile intellectual pursuit. You do fail to see that the it's not only the liberals who do it.
Amen to this and to Mad Rocket Scientist. There was a headline on the New York Times web site a few weeks back — something like, Does Obama's election make it easier to talk about race? But Mr. Willingham is correct. For a white person to talk about race means that you must accept blame for the racist offenses of all white people who lived before you; frequently, it also means accepting the laughable premise that "black people can't be racist." You must certainly not say anything about other races that could be construed as critical (such as, poor black people are generally loud and thus a nuisance to live around). If you don't accept these ground rules, AT BEST you are labeled someone who just "doesn't get it." Most likely, you will be branded a racist. What sane person would enter into such a conversation??
I used to be a Democrat, but the PC nazis have so taken over that party that I can't stand it anymore.
I think you've nailed it: this is the precursor to some sort of "discussion" of reparations that will lead to a MASSIVE wealth transfer to blacks. A pay-back. It'll get really interesting when blacks who have no American ancestry get a slice of the reparations pie.
I am tired of Team Obama judging us, and these are the people that are supposed to protect us "bitter" "cowards"? Obama and his cohorts never fail to insult the american people. I can't believe this guy is president.
Um … doesn't this mean that approximately 77% of Americans were NOT afraid that the candidate likely to be the first black president was an Arab, Muslim or a socialist? And isn't that a good thing? As a white person, if you disagree with the PC police, or with any statement, really, by an Africa-American, you are branded a racist. That is just a step above being a Nazi. For a lot of people, "racist" means you are a morally reprehensible person and hence your argument automatically has no merit. And other people, fearful of being smeared, just back away from you. The "victim's" charge is what gets the attention. It's very powerful, and a good many black people do not hesitate to use it.
How dare you try to distract the AG and the professional victim class with facts!
What? We're "just as bad" if we want to defend a helpless unborn? We've adopted four of those that otherwise would be aborted. So we're "just as bad"? We tried to adopt "cross-racially" and save a baby from destruction (and we sadly failed, she was aborted at seven months) and we're "just as bad"? We try to help the black community see that they are aborting their babies at three times the rate of white women and try to stop that and we're "just as bad"? I don't buy it or the other descriminatory, destructive, elitist ideas coming from the new administration and the old, failed sixties ideas being forced down our throats. I refuse to participate in socialism.
Mr. Holder is right to some degree. If so many people had not been afraid(cowards) of being called racists we would not be stuck with the president that we now have.
Wow, I'm flash-backs to college and law school.
I take it, then, that you read the piece. Or at least the abstract? Personally, I wanted to scratch my eyes out.
The word RACIST is so misused it no longer has any meaning to most people ,most folks if you ask them for the definition you would be shock .
Blacks in this country are a bunch of whiners. Nowhere in world do they have it so good and all they do is suck their thumbs and complain. This incessant crying has gone beyond being merely irritating and is now just boring. Holder is an affirmative action appointment from an affirmative action president. Welcome to America in the waning days of empire.
Well, is it not becoming obvious that deference to a persons point of view that is a person of color is a racist thing in itself? Also, to be over impressed with America for electing a black man is a kind of racism. Wow! We elected a black man! Well, how about we elected an American, a man that has a black father. It should not be a big deal. We have to judge him by the quality of his character and the shape of his words and actions as president. To be afraid to go negative on anyone in this country because of a fear of being accused of racism is in itself racist. People of color can be considered smart enough and strong enough to take criticism. To defer based on color is to deny they are equal. It is an insult to them.
I say we are all Americans, all people in a great melting pot and I enjoy the diversity. I hate identity politics, though, because it keeps differences alive. True equality can only happen when no one is treated differently in speech, written word, law, or regulation.
DD
Montana
Didn't you love Sharpton's absolute shock that it would be legal for anyone to disparage a sitting President of the U.S.A. I laughed out loud. Where was his outrage over the film version of Bush's mock assassination? The cartoon wasn't even about Obama, and the meanest thing anyone has said about O is that he is a noob that doesn't know what he's doing, which seems to be more and more verfied every day.
Oops that wouldn't be a racist comment now would it? Lol…
God bless Cosby!
I read the abstract, didn't have to read the piece to know what it says. I used to run into that kind of stuff ALL the time in college — went to the People's Republic of Boulder (U. of Colorado) for college.
I would have scratched my eyes out, except I kept laughing at the idea that Obama should have to start dressing unisex! I vote either emo or he could bring back Glam Rock. How cool would that be! Introducing Ziggy O and the Biden from Delaware!
I prefer D'oh!bama.
What an ass-hat! Holder needs to apologize, especially to us former liberal white males, and resign! What a disgusting disgraceful self serving jerk! Earth to Holder, we have an African-American president, you hold one of the most powerful positions in gov't, and we are a nation of racial cowards?!!! I served for many years in the United States Army as an Equal Opportunity Representative, advocating the rights of minorities, especially African-Americans, me a white boy from Alabama, and I'm a racial coward? You and Obama and your whole gang of stinking liberal Democrat commie scum CAN ALL GO TO HELL!
I read the whole thing. Didn't get bogged down in the footnotes, though, except to note that all sources were left wing and that the author self-referenced. A lot of self-referencing. The thing that got me was the "scholarly language". Example (second para of intro):
<quote>To do so, I explicate and apply insights from the fields of identity performance theory, critical race theory, and masculinities studies. With respect to race, the essay confirms my prior theory of “bipolar black masculinity.” That is, the media tends to represent black men as either
the completely threatening and race-affirming Bad Black Man or the completely comforting and assimilationist Good Black Man. For Obama, this meant he had to avoid the stereotype of the angry black man. Meanwhile, though, the association of the Presidency with the hegemonic form of masculinity presented difficulties for Obama. He was regularly called upon to be more aggressive in responding to attacks and more masculine in general. As a result, Obama could not be too masculine because that would have triggered the Bad Black Man stereotype but he could not be too feminine because that would have looked unpresidential.</quote>
The real laugh is that he says this confirms his earlier theory. And this passes for scholarship these day. Yikes!
I could not have said it better. Just because I am white does not make me a racist. Calling me a racist because I am white makes said name-caller a racist.
Doubt not!
Martin Luther King, Jr., The Measures of Man, 1959.
And here si another.
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr., Strength to Love, 1963
Thank God for the Internet and talk radio. Without them, we would already be living under leftist tyranny. Fight them all! Fihgt them every step of the way!
The only reason to keep 'discussing' race is to keep trying to heap guilt on the current (white) US population for grievous actions of past generations. I do not have guilt about race. I am not a hyphenated American. Why is slavery in the US still being discussed while it is ongoing in several part of the world, not the least being north central Africa? Yes, whites bought slaves; they bought slaves of all different races including whites. Who sold Africans into slavery? Who is still keeping blacks, for the most part, in a slave mentality other than out friends, Jesse, Al, Eric, Maxine, et al? Why are there black, Hispanic, Asian etc. student unions at many colleges and universities? Who are the people most likely to segregate themselves from the general population, and then keep preaching that we have to really discuss race relations? Look at all the government programs that have been funded over the last 60 years targeting the 'less fortunate' black population. If these programs had any success at all, every black family would not still be complaining about lack of opportunity. And, we can be sure Holder will defend (sic) kids outside the womb (e.g., Elian Gonzales and the Branch Davidian children) and children in the womb (supporter of Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger, who believed in the genocide of blacks through abortion) – NOT. Holder is racist and a race baiter.
The only reason to keep 'discussing' race is to keep trying to heap guilt on the current (white) US population for grievous actions of past generations. I do not have guilt about race. I am not a hyphenated American. Why is slavery in the US still being discussed while it is ongoing in several part of the world, not the least being north central Africa? Yes, whites bought slaves; they bought slaves of all different races including whites. Who sold Africans into slavery? Who is still keeping blacks, for the most part, in a slave mentality other than out friends, Jesse, Al, Eric, Maxine, et al? Why are there black, Hispanic, Asian etc. student unions at many colleges and universities? Who are the people most likely to segregate themselves from the general population, and then keep preaching that we have to really discuss race relations? Look at all the government programs that have been funded over the last 60 years targeting the 'less fortunate' black population. If these programs had any success at all, every black family would not still be complaining about lack of opportunity. And, we can be sure Holder will defend kids outside the womb (e.g., Elian Gonzales and the Branch Davidian children) and children in the womb (supporter of Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger, who believed in the genocide of blacks through abortion) – NOT. Holder is racist and a race baiter.
See, if he'd just gone the glam rock route, none of this would have been a problem for him!
Seriously, it's disturbing what passes for scholarship these days. Part of the problem is politics, but the bigger problems (IMHO) are
– that there are too many "fields" now that really aren't fields and that the people in these fields need to justify their continued existence. So they create over-elaborate words and "technical phrases", they redefine common concepts to make them appear like new thought, and they aggresively attack anyone who challenges them.
– and the fact that getting an advanced degree requires a thesis, which requires you to write something original. That's why you see so many grad students/profs reaching for BS arguments (like arguing that some historical figure was gay) because its the only "original" thing they could come up with to write about.
Some white person didn't invite him to a birthday party when he was a kid and he still harbors a great resentment. Look government did all they could do to make things equal Now they're mad we don't like them as much as we like people who are more like ourselves in culture and manner.
It seems that the most discriminated people in the US are now single, white, straight men anyway…:-)
"I only ever talk about important matters like race and gender politics with those for whom there is still the possibility of serious discourse and reasoned debate."
…in other words, those who are willing to reduce all discussion and comment to the absurdly simplistic terms that the droogs on the right prefer so that they can erect straw men and then riducule them.
Bunch of right-wing hatred in motion. Hey, you lost the election. Get over it, already.
It is interesting that the author of this article, while attempting to undermine and criticize it, validates Mr. Holders point (unwittingly, I presume) with the following passage:
"That’s why I don’t play your silly games anymore. I only ever talk about important matters like race and gender politics with those for whom there is still the possibility of serious discourse and reasoned debate. Once again, I suspect I’m not alone in this. Your side has taken itself out of the game, and until such time as you on the left can get your house in order, you aren’t worth a reasonable man’s time or effort."
The definition of "coward", according to dictionary.com, is "a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc." Doesn't limiting his discussion of these "important matters" to people other than "the left" — thereby, simply avoiding discussions that may be "difficult" with "opposition" meet this definition?
As to posts about "PC" or the reaction to the "monkey" cartoon, take a look at the diverse world around you. It is only smart to attempt to understand the history (here, historical slurs referring to people of color as "monkeys") and to be sensitive to such history. Some attempt to dismiss the offense taken as PC hypersensitivity or to distinguish the cartoon by saying the people who actually "wrote" the legislation were Pelosi or Reid
As to posts about "PC" or the reaction to the "monkey" cartoon, take a look at the diverse world around you. It is only smart to attempt to understand the history (here, historical slurs referring to people of color as "monkeys") and to be sensitive to such history. Some attempt to dismiss the offense taken as PC hypersensitivity or to distinguish the cartoon by saying the people who actually "wrote" the legislation were Pelosi or Reid; but, who are they kidding. The stimulus package — although a collaboration between the administration and Congress — was Obama's baby. (Also, in light of the above-described history, it is far different to call Mr. Bush a monkey than to call Mr. Obama the same. Of course, it is fair to disagree with Mr. Obama or to call him other things (that have not been the historical domain of racists). That goes with the territory.
It IS time that we have a serious, respectful discussion about these issues. The feelings expressed by this author and all of you who have commented — as well as those who have other views — should be part of that discussion.
I sense I little "ham sandwich" upstairs with these ignorant generalizations, "BloodvCrips". A little real thought and discussion never hurt anyone. I recommend you try it.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but it is not cowardice, but avoidance of legal action. Since 1964 it has been illegal to discuss Race. The Great Liberator Johnson signed that bill. I do not hold people responsible for their skincolor. I do hold them responsible for their attitude toward me, for mine.
Yes, contact your White Caucaus Representatives. Oh, we don't have a seperate Caucaus, do we?
And this is our Chief Law Enforcement Officer in America. I am no coward, sir; but I am greatly afraid.
ROFL
Careful, you are walking a tightrope. It could be construed that you are a racist. Facts be damned.
Anti Redneck, huh?
Much like if you are really a bad-ass, you don't need to go around telling everyone. Brilliant.
When, oh when will it ever be ENOUGH!!!
The blood shed by BRAVE young soldiers in the Civil War should have been enough.
Emancipation should have been enough.
The Civil Rights Movement should have been enough.
Blacks elected to all sorts of offices should have been enough.
Blacks equal in the workplace should have been enough.
Obama elected to the highest position of power in the World should be enough.
Mr. Holder himself appointed as the first black attorney general should be enough.
What on earth do these people want and when can the white man ever do enough? It will NEVER be enough because these people cannot accept reality and forgive. They choose to bear a grudge and their own anger and hate will ultimately usurp the color-blindness they say they desire.
There comes a time (now) when the screeching about race turns on itself and becomes a parody of itself. It no longer resonates and calling the people of this great land COWARDS only fuels and fans any remaining racist embers left burning.
You're obviously a statistical racist…..
Amen to that, Political Correctness is cowardice.
Way to go Mr. Willingham. My sentiments exactly. I don't have time to participate in racist liberal nonsense. They can wet themselves on their own time.
Exactly! It's not about unifying people, cause let's be honest not everyone gets along or have the same opinions. Which is sort of what keeps life interesting. The left beats the drum of understanding diversity and cherishing it. Yet what they are really getting at is creating stereotypes and reinforcing victimization. I have friends from all different races, not because a college professor told me to but because I know they are good human beings.
I'd certainly have to agree with the assertion that white individuals are not allowed to have any type of group. To all the dissenters who will try to attach White Power and the KKK as examples as such, you truly don't understand the loathing that white Americans have towards these groups. I'm delighted to see someone else has noticed this.
Yes they are victims, your right they're victims. I'm sorry for slavery, I'm sorry for the laws that were passed against them, I'm sorry for all the terrible very bad things that have ever happened to black people in this country. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What else can I do to better lift up the black society as a whole seeing as how they can not do it them selves. They have literally more groups working for them than any other race. I'm sorry that Democrats were such racist with all of their Jim Crow laws and such. I'm good at this I was indoctrinated into the notion that I'm personally responsible for all of this, alas I went through the public school system. There now that I've apologized for the 300 years that I wasn't alive for and had nothing to do with can we move past it please.
Yes they are victims, your right they're victims. I'm sorry for slavery, I'm sorry for the laws that were passed against them, I'm sorry for all the terrible very bad things that have ever happened to black people in this country. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What else can I do to better lift up the black society as a whole seeing as how they can not do it them selves. They have literally more groups working for them than any other race. I'm sorry that Democrats were such racist with all of their Jim Crow laws and such. I'm good at this I was indoctrinated into the notion that I'm personally responsible for all of this, alas I went through the public school system. There now that I've apologized for the 300 years that I wasn't alive for and had nothing to do with can we move past it please. It's dripping sarcasm, black people are more than capable as every other race is at growing, learning, and succeeding in life. It's the don't forget about "racism in America" that effects some in a way that stifles their growth and possibility for success.
Correct!!
Isn't it time for another autobiography from Obama?
Yes, but cowardice in the defense of freedom is a virtue… at least that's what I hear from hippies.
Dave, "U2"? Band or spy plane?
Wow! How insightful! I thought I could hide behind my words, but you really nailed me! Yep, all my life I've been wandering around, statistically racist, and thinking I could hide it. But of course, I could never hide something from someone with such amazing insight and absolutely unerring judgment as you apparently hold in your omniscient and glowing brain. Damn, now I guess all those prison doors will swing open, and thousands of innocent black men in prisons all through this benighted statistically racist country will walk into the sunlit uplands of freedom and dignity and equal rights, now that the dragon of statistical racism has been slain by your incredibly brilliant and eliptical (…..) comments. Hallelujah, free at last, etc., and now I'll just go and lynch myself to make sure that none of my poisonous statistical racism can ever raise its ugly head and oppress people again.
Dang, you guys are funny.
As opposed to making it so convoluted and abstract that you would need Freud himself to explain it. When the truth of the matter is racism comes down to one thing, hate. What agencies funded by the government will be set up to better push Mormon victimization after the attacks made on them, their churches and their sacred temples. They also suffered attacks in the US 200 years ago. They simply practiced their constitutional right of freedom of religion and freedom of speech. When will the ACLU champion their rights. Why were they attacked for voting for Prop 8, when they too were the "minority" of the voting block. Have I made it to simplistic have I created a straw man?
Why do white people assume Eric Holder is talking exclusively about them? I'm black and I realize that people like Al Sharpton don't make it easy to have civilized conversations about race. I consider Al Sharpton and his overreaction to the New York Post article (and well just about every situation where a black person seems to suffer some public inequity) to be cowardice. I consider Joseph Lowery a coward for making that ridiculous comment during the benediction at Obama's inauguration about "white's embracing what is right". So just calm down…Holder wasn't just talking about white people, he was talking about everyone. And I bet he realizes that black people probably have to make the biggest effort to avoid cowardice when it comes to conversations about race.
Now I'm forced to find out what is happening on "Real Clear Politics" if that's a catch phrase like "transparency" I'm pretty sure what I'm in for.
I am not certain why either of those two things would change in response to a change in president; a lot would depend on the reasons behind both statistics. In my view, both are the result of the complex interaction between social and personal forces that are difficult to alter. The real question for me is how can we parlay a sense of liberation into jobs and opportunities that can help people to change their own lives.
The Ypsilanti data suggest that the kind of change you are seeking would require an intense and persistent effort from early childhood on. Would that we had the resources for such a program!
No wonder Oprah won't marry the guy.
Guns and God, a couple of responses. First, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not make it "illegal to discuss race". Instead, it made it illegal to discriminate based upon race. Second, the author's argument speaks for itself — and says nothing to suggest that the author's avoidance of discussions regarding race or gender has anything to do with his sharing your misperception of the Civil Rights Act. Indeed, as I stated originally, he clearly validated Mr. Holder's point — that we avoid this issue because it is not comfortable.
I find this — and all of these comments by the unenlighted (especially with the racial generalizations) — to be hilarious. The world has changed on you guys. I recommend that you catch up (instead of clamming up … well, until you get into your comfort zone with like minded people in places like this blog). Lol!
Great post, Dr. Keller! Interesting.
Unfortunately, from most of the comments I have read here, I doubt they will understand you (unless you throw a couple of good insults at Mr. Holder, blacks or the "left wing PC movement").
It's more a brotherly gaming tradition of taking two bands and putting them together for screen names. It's actually U2 the band and Dave Matthews the band all rolled into one inglorious moniker. If I had to pick a plane it would be the SR-71 Blackbird. I grow far to tired of having to come up with screen names all the time so I just stick to one. Coming up with new passwords every couple of days is annoying enough.
The reason why it's not mentioned is because initially the Civil War wasn't actually fought to free slaves. The "Emancipation Proclamation" was issued during the civil war.
Nope. Not even close. Refusing to continue to drink from a thoroughly poisoned well has nothing to do with cowardice, no matter how you strain to contort the definition. It does however have everything to do with hard won wisdom. There's nothing brave about wasting time in a proven fruitless endeavor.
Terrific to see you here, Batton.
Truth
Your misinterpretation of the cartoon does not justify you being offended. Obama does not write legislation, therefore he is not the monkey. Stupidity is not anymore of an excuse than ignorance.
To quote Steve Martin, "I forgot that bank robbery was against the law". As for historic slights, we have been force fed that nonsense for decades now. I am not responsible for knowing that anytime the word monkey is used, your inferiority complex will kick in and assume you are the monkey. It was supposed to be a joke about the writers of the life sucking legislation, i.e., the congress. Take a civics class. Oh right, I forgot that those were all replaced by ethnic studies.
huh?
There are many things I find confusing about your statements and antisemitism but here's the first one I found scrolling back through it, "I find it amazing how many people are now calling Blacks racist. Blacks have no power to be racist and racism is prejudice plus power!" (the most powerful man in the world is black)
First off prejudice is not racism, prejudice is what life experiences have taught you to be either A) comfortable with or B) wary of. Everyone prejudges situations on a minute by minute basis in their lives. Discrimination on the other hand is racism.
Racism isn't a magical power that only white people are born with. It's merely the notion that your race is superior to another race and you let that race now when ever you can.
I like to boil racism down to just hate for others who are not like you. I get the impression that you hate Jews, in this situation it doesn't make you racist it makes you antisemitic.
It sounds like you have read a lot of books about the great Jewish conspiracy against black people, this is the first time I've heard about it. I'm going to look into that so I can evaluate whether I should start being antisemitic now or not.
Personally I like to take people at face value from the personal experiences I've had with all different types of individuals. I grow concerned when a black male approaches me and he has a starter jacket on and his hat is sideways and he's flashing me gang signs. I also grow concerned when a white individual approaches me with a shaved head red suspenders, black pants, white shirt and white shoe laces on his Doc Martin's. I have a prejudice to both because I've learned through life experience that both of these individuals typically hate and are dangerous. They are not adverse to violence or the ideology they base their reputations on. If what I have perceived and my original assessment of the situation is wrong I adjust my preconceived notions. Which is great I get to meet some new individual. If my prejudice is correct I quickly and politely divert myself from the situation to keep from potentially winding up in the hospital or dead.
Answer me this one question though, are you Muslim?
Oh dear. I apologize as well; perhaps I was too hasty, and, as is my failing, a little too enamored of my own sarcasm. Sometimes I get obtuse about others'.
Speaking of words, I myself grew up a Cajun, in south Louisiana. Our own nickname was "coonass." Seriously. When I grew up, everyone called each other coonass or coon. When my dad first saw my daughter when she was born, he grinned and burst into tears and pronounced, "what a beautiful little coon!"
Being called a racist, in the particular context that is my life in America, is a strangely surreal experience, so I tend to retreat into sarcasm, sometimes perhaps too quickly. Have a nice day!
I try to throw the word racist around as much as possible to desensitize people to it's true meaning. I do this because it's a constant battering ram against white people, as if white people were the only individuals capable of racism.
I am secure in the fact that I'm not racist but by trying to argue any political or socioeconomic point against some black person I am immediately labeled a racist by most, white included. Thanks to the indoctrination of white mans guilt through the entire education system most people around said conversation will think I'm a racist. I'm tired of it.
Holder opened the flood gates for me, I'm a coward for not being able to have a conversation about racism! The conversation in it's true form is pretty easy to have. Slavery is the never ending blemish on American history and culture. One hates another group because they are different. I guess we can't get past it.
It's like trying to talk to a Democrat who immediately declares Bush is just like Hitler. If that was actually the case we would have already conquered all known countries. First I have to argue another ridiculously convoluted points to get to the true substance of the debate.
In the words of Mohammad Ali “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat." I know quoting and pointing out some reality is, alas, also racist.
I do have to agree that the word traitor and terrorist have been thrown around pretty loosely by Republican candidates. Although when a newly converted Muslim shows up in a mall with hand grenades in his pockets we're also told by the media that he's not a terrorist. It's all these crazy extremes that we are forced to sift through to make decisions about the real situation.
I try to throw the word racist around as much as possible to desensitize people to it's true meaning. I do this because it's a constant battering ram against white people, as if white people were the only individuals capable of racism.
I am secure in the fact that I'm not racist but by trying to argue any political or socioeconomic point against some black person I am immediately labeled a racist by most, white included. Thanks to the indoctrination of white mans guilt through the entire education system most people around said conversation will think I'm a racist. I'm tired of it.
Holder opened the flood gates for me, I'm a coward for not being able to have a conversation about racism! The conversation in it's true form is pretty easy to have. Slavery is the never ending blemish on American history and culture. One hates another group because they are different. I guess we can't get past it.
It's like trying to talk to a Democrat who immediately declares Bush is just like Hitler. If that was actually the case we would have already conquered all known countries. First I have to argue another ridiculously convoluted point to get to the true substance of the debate.
In the words of Mohammad Ali “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat." I know quoting and pointing out some reality is, alas, also racist.
I do have to agree that the word traitor and terrorist have been thrown around pretty loosely by Republican candidates. Although when a newly converted Muslim shows up in a mall with hand grenades in his pockets we're also told by the media that he's not a terrorist. It's all these crazy extremes that we are forced to sift through to make decisions about the real situation.
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It's funny how it doesn't take much to silence some college students who are not willing to think for them selves. As soon as you pose a question that the professor hasn't already given them their answer to, they merely look dumb struck. I've tangled with more than one professor about their political opinions that some how routinely entered into conversation in which the class wasn't specifically designed for. Higher education for some is no longer about critical thinking and personal education it's merely another step of indoctrination into the state of victimization. This happens because it feels good to feel sorry for people and it does. I feel bad for plenty of people stuck in all sorts of situations from past to present. I don't however feel any more that I'm responsible for those situations it took some time for me to get to that point though.
I'm all for dating out side ones race mainly because I find all races of women beautiful.
I understand off the cuff reactions, I think they're great. One gets no truer insight into how someone thinks. You stood by your facts an belittled me with sarcastic humor that made me laugh. I'm glad to know that I have now officially ran into a rage'n Cajun and the name fits perfectly, sorry for the stereotype. I have to remember that sarcasm is tough to convey through written words alone. Now I can't wait to visit Louisiana and see if the temperature of their food matches the temperature of your convictions.
Well first check your pockets, cause that's the only place you'll find change.(not that the change notion is anything new in political campaigns it's merely old fashioned rhetoric)
Hope such an inspiring notion and emotion yet….. Hope is not predicated upon the notion of fear, for example, "the economic down turn is as bad as the great depression." Economist don't agree on much but they do, however, agree upon the fact that we are no where near the great depression. We are at the level of the recession of the 80's What was all the leftists out spoken contempt for fear mongering when extremist were and are trying to kill us. I get it now if someone is actively trying and willing to kill you, don't make it sound as bad as it really is. If the country is trying to survive economic turmoil don't hesitate to play it to it's most feared level such as the Great Depression.
My snarky sarcasm aside I do understand the pain of enduring college classes that beat into your head you've come from a terrible country…..the one that everyone is fleeing…….to?
My eyes glaze over at Holder's and others' racists remarks such as this. I also quit listening years ago to the annual, mandatory Diversity crap we are required to attend and sign off on at my corp. This has created a backlash that these idiots brought on themselves. All the hucksters and guilt-ridden do-nothings on the left have created this.
Get offa my lawn, ever damn one of you, is my answer.
The Mormon argument is not analogous as it is not a case of racism but of religious bigotry. Unless one goes to modern Africa, Mormons were until recently not only almost exclusively white but believed that only white people would be allowed into heaven. They were never enslaved and not denied the right to own property or to vote. Certainly they were persecuted, but once they migrated and took over their own state and then renounced the multiple marriage thing sometime in the middle of the last century they were welcomed into the union and proceeded to take over large swaths of the economy – the advantage of close knit bonds of belief and organization. In other words it was not race but behavior that kept them out of the club. Perhaps the comparison is more accurately applied to gay rights. I don't see this as a racial issue either as people of all races participate in religious bigotry.
Interesting anecdote about hanging out in stupid places. I guess you didn't, by your own words, listen to your wise grandfather. Shame on you. I went and checked out Real Clear Politics. It's not much different than the Drudge Report, it links headline news articles into one place. It does however suffer from a rhyming commentator.
Extremists sewage? Could you please in your middle of the road privileged existence point to the extremists commenting here. To me extremist would be decrying the need to kill black people or a little less than extreme would be the go back to Africa mantra. I've seen neither. So extreme in your mind is someone able to link together facts and statistics.
Your privileged line and grand pappy as you say smacks of some movie that I've seen. And come one unenforceable laws still exist about putting an ice cream cone in your back pocket. Most of the comments here are full of factual information. I think your grandfather got it backs wards on the right being all heart and left being all brains. Where does the term "bleeding heart liberal" come from?
So far in here the only disparaging remarks about people have been from you. Please go back to your supposed place on high and leave us simpletons to ourselves.
You are right. Any form of criticism or even innocent observation of the "black condition," no matter how objective, is racist if uttered by a conservative white male.
I have to retract something I said above about solitaire. I was referring to the time in my agency when that game was routinely available on every computer as part of the Windows installation. Since then, my agency, and I think most others, have deleted all those games from Windows installations because that was virtually all that occupied these "administrative assistants'" time for the barely eight hours they spent at work before stampeding out of the building close enough to five PM to be able to say reasonably that they left work at the required time. Continued below…
Heaven help any person who depends on them for routine work like double-sided copying for memos and briefing books, arranging travel reservations, getting orders on time so when one travels, one is actually covered by government insurance in case the plane goes down and one's family must be taken care of. Those simple tasks escaped the abilities or motivations of the AA's who "worked" for the offices to which I was assigned.
Heaven forbid that one might assess their work honestly in an annual effectiveness review. You would be up against a long history of "satisfactory" or "outstanding" evaluations from a long line of white supervisors who feared EEO lawsuits if they wrote honestly. Continued again below…
I think the cowardice Holder wants us to discuss may have some unintended consequences if this debate gets going full steam. He's liable to get some uncowardly individuals giving him an earful about the horrible performance of his fellow ethnics taking unearned salaries and benefits from the American taxpayer. He had better watch out. He might get just what he's asking for. If he thinks he's intimidating whites by being aggressive in this manner, he had better reconsider. Lots of us are fed up with the race card hustle and won't sit still for it anymore.
If the above makes me a racist, so be it. I'm tired of explaining myself, sick of doing clericals' work for them while they goof off at the expense of time for my job, and too old to care anymore.
I think the cowardice Holder wants us to discuss may have some unintended consequences if this debate gets going full steam. He's liable to get some uncowardly individuals giving him an earful about the horrible performance of his fellow ethnics. He had better watch out. He might get just what he's asking for.
If the above makes me a racist, so be it. I'm tired of explaining myself and too old to care anymore.
I LOVE the SR-71. I got to see one in person at an AF Base once. I was totally thrilled. Greatest plane ever made!
Yawn.
Good points. I think it's funny that these people feel the need to come here to yell about how evil the place is when it's obvious they haven't even read the article or the comments.
In the past, I used to wonder, are they so unsecure in their own views that they can't stomach the idea that others disagree with them? Over time, I've learned that is exactly what it is. Their views are a failure. They don't work. In fact, they tend to cause the opposite result of what they were seeking. Consequently, their entire belief system is a fraud, and they know this but don't want to admit it. To stop that aweful feeling that they're "living a lie", they need to accuse someone else of undermining their side. That way they can believe that it wasn't their views that caused the problem, it was "those people"… the ones who undermined their efforts.
Merci mille fois, cher! Indeed, my college's mascot were the Ragin' Cajuns, and yes we are not lukewarm nor cold, but HOT. Nothing down there that you'll feel like spewing out of your mouth, to continue the biblical metaphor. Thanks!
Simple, really: the social ills among the black demographic are routinely traced back to whatever mean white republican resides in the white house (not the person who gets himself sent to prison or gets pregnant without a ring). For all the change that was promised by this administration, this as well ought to follow suit. The opportunity is here, plain as day – the "sense of liberation" isn't something "we" need to "parlay" – people need only open their eyes and "change". Or was it just me who needed to "change?" Just let me know – not going anywhere.
And here's a study that comes to the earth-shattering conclusion that personal responsibility is the end-all, be-all. By a Berkeley professor no less. I have to wonder how this would fit into Mr. Holder's "cowardly" narrative.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/news/rich__black__f...
Please learn to write cogently, with proper grammar and syntax, if you are going to BLOG.
There are so many errors, simply in the first couple of paragraphs, that I had to stop reading.
[...] comics writer Bill Willingham recently wrote an essay in which he responded to Attorney General Eric Holder’… in terms of discussion and treatment of race. Holder’s speech (transcript here) says, boiled [...]
Billy,
99.44% of the people who said they were being cast as traitors and terrorists are the same people who said that BHO was different, he doesn't look like the the people on our currency; oh, I did I mention he was black. Me thinks liberals protest too much (Bill & Hill, Jesse, Al, Eric, Maxine et al) and really know what they are – purveyors of hate and divisiveness.
Des,
I agree we can use all those too. I, however, still will use the characterization of coward.
Cowards can't really say what they're thinking out loud for fear of scrutinization.
Mr. Holder shows that.
It is Stedman Graham she was/is 'dating'.
It was a feeble attempt at humor given the uncanny resemblance between Mr. Holder and Mr. Graham.
The guy is Stedmanesque.
I guess one can't say anything about looking alike
One of the funniest lines I've heard in weeks. The extreme Left is all brain and no heart. This sentiment couldn't possibly be more convoluted. The poster (and far too large a chunk of our society) confuses "brains" with post graduate education. People who spend most of their formative years in a collegiate echo chamber (where the vast majority of voices lean Left) do not have a lack of heart, or an overabundance of brains. They have specialized educations that too many people mistake for real life wisdom. The fact is, the two have nothing in common. Being good at school doesn't make you smarter, wiser, or more compassionate….however it does often lead people to consider themselves superior to others.
I had a friend who was a physicist (worked at Argonne National Laboratory). If you talked to him about physics, engineering, or anything related to particle acceleration, it was like he was talking a different language (one you could never be bight enough to understand). When he talked about global warming, economics, or foreign policy, it sounded like you were talking to someone who'd been dropped on his head as an infant (except the self-assured attitude that he was the smartest guy in the room was still front and center).
I've listened to the brightest political minds on the Left and on the Right, and I don't find it even a close call. The ones on the Right understand the events and consequences of action (or inaction) far more than their counterparts.
"When he talked about global warming…it sounded like you were talking to someone who'd been dropped on his head as an infant…" isn't that the truth. It isn't the gas that causes the increase in heat (look at the temperatures of the other planets that increased in temp the same time as Earth), it's the increase in heat that causes the increase in gas – the best proof of this is Congress, NAACP, Eric, Al, Jesse, BHO, Jeremiah et al.
Hey, it's in his character; he lobbied successfully to get 16 Puerto Rican terrorists pardoned; then there is Marc Rich (of course, Bill may have had other incentives).
Logic, for all of the intelligence that you pretend to have (by name, words and tone), your oversimplification of the monkey and who writes (or, in broader terms, took the lead on) the legislation and failure to see the nature of editorial cartoons in this context, reveals that your "studidity … ignorance" comment actually applies to you.
Editorial cartoons almost uniformly relate their message by implication — not by the literal. Thus, in this context, it is highly relevant that the person viewed as most responsible for the legislation in question is Obama — and that he may be viewed, by implication, as the monkey. Of even greater relevance is the historical use of monkey as a reference to people of color.
I can't fall for the "inferiority complex" thing. In case you can't tell, I am much better educated than you. I suggest you wake up and adapt to the world around you (and the need to understand others).
Mr. Author, your words — as well as the definition of "coward" — speak for themselves. That is why I quoted your entire passage and the definition — which left no room for your allegation that I somehow "contorted" or strained" the definition.
I will give it to you that the word "coward" is loaded. My eyes became wide when I first heard that the AG used that word. Then, I read your attempt to condemn his statement and the definition — which made me less concerned.
When your readers calm down (and stop making themselves the poster children for what is known in social phychology as the Focus Theory of Normative Conduct), they should engaging look at themselves and the world around them and have a thoughtful exhange about how we move ahead.
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