Partisan Hacks Using Comedy As A Shield
by Ben ShapiroAren’t comedians supposed to be funny?
That’s the question I had after watching two interviews this week. The first interview featured a buffoonish jackass interviewer who fancies himself a comedian because he smirks (Jon Stewart); the interview subject was a buffoonish jackass who fancies himself a militant financial analyst, and who is, in reality, a wimp (Jim Cramer).
The second interview featured a buffoonish jackass interviewer who fancies himself a comedian because he once made someone laugh. The interviewer, for some odd reason, also thinks he is a profound thinker on religion and politics; in reality, he’s more famous for dating porn stars than for his philosophical musings (Bill Maher). The interview subjects were Michael Eric Dyson, the sort of faux intellectual beloved by the academy (Dyson teaches at Georgetown University), and our own Andrew Breitbart.
I’m not going to focus on the guests – their various performances speak for themselves (although I’d argue that Cramer was a sad-sack sissy; Dyson was purposefully obfuscatory and pretentious, as befits a lifelong “academic”; and Andrew was both brave and trenchant for taking on a hostile crowd and refusing to back down).
Instead, I’m going to focus on the hosts.
Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are both supposed to be funny. Stewart has a show on Comedy Central, of course; Maher does stand up. Yet from these two interviews, you would have thought that Stewart and Maher are angry sociology undergraduates from Brown University. Stewart beat an apologetic Cramer into submission by citing, of all the ridiculous clichés, his grandmother’s retirement account. Maher slandered Rush Limbaugh as a racist, then slammed Bush’s stem cell policy, which is far more nuanced and ethically coherent than Barack Obama’s “science must not be challenged” amorality.
Neither of them were funny.
Now, I’m a conservative. I’ll admit that some liberal humor just doesn’t appeal to me — Sarah Silverman grates like nails made of bitchy on a chalkboard made of whining; Family Guy has become an irritatingly dull version of The Simpsons, relying largely on shock value rather than actual humor.
But I contend that there’s one objective indicator that Stewart and Maher have lost their ability to be funny: their audience is so stacked that they laugh at clearly unfunny lines – they’re living laugh tracks. Here’s Part II of Stewart’s interview with Cramer.
Listen to the audience at 4:48. Stewart says he can’t reconcile Cramer’s financial brilliance with the “crazy bulls***” you do every night. And the audience laughs. Now, there’s nothing funny about that observation, the use of the word “bulls***” notwithstanding. The rest of the interview is like that, too. Joe Scarborough was right on the money when he said, “Basically he’s got 100 people working for him. They scour the Internet and TV night and day. They find people that put themselves out on the line. … whether they’re politicians or commentators. Then if somebody makes a little mistake here or there … I’m talking if a politician stumbles over himself. They take it out. They edit it. He runs a clip and then he makes a funny face and then the whole audience has a Pavlovian response.” It was a comment that enraged Stewart, but the clips demonstrate that Scarborough was speaking absolute truth on this score.
The same holds true with Bill Maher. During Maher’s interview with Andrew and the deliberate obfuscator Dyson (a man of tremendous hypocrisy who claims to read others’ motives through their “code words,” then simultaneously claims that he is not into ad hominem attacks), Maher got laughs from his primed audience.
Watch this segment in Part II at 2:02:
Maher compares the schools shifting bad teachers around to the Catholic Church shifting around pedophiles, a stale joke at best. The audience goes for it. The joke, however, is so stale that after Maher repeats it, the audience doesn’t laugh – even the living laugh track can’t be bothered to wake up for that one.
Political comedy can be funny. But political comedy requires that the comics do not see themselves as crusaders standing up to the man. The “speaking truth to power” folks are about as humorous as a punch in the groin, and nearly as painful.
There’s a bigger problem here than the death of comedy, however. The biggest problem is the holier-than-thou Stewart and Maher types posing as comedians for purposes of self-defense. If you’re going to enter the political battlefield, don’t claim to be above politics. It’s gutless and pathetic.
Let’s remember that while Stewart went after Cramer with a chainsaw on his show for Cramer’s manipulation of the market, he originally went after CNBC because many CNBC-ers, including Rick Santelli and Cramer, opposed Barack Obama’s spendathon plan. He went after Cramer personally only after Cramer turned on Stewart’s object of worship, Obama. Likewise with Maher – Maher hates religion and pretends to be bipartisan, but his show has become a virtual cult of Obamamania. Watch the interview with Andrew and Dyson and see if there’s a single thing Obama has done that Maher, that incisive critic, actually touches.
And yet when commentators attack partisan hacks Stewart and Maher, the “comedians” hide behind the shield of comedy.
It must be nice being a “comedian” in the mold of Stewart or Maher. It means never having to defend your positions. It means you get to go on shows like Crossfire and state that they’re bad for America, even if you grill conservatives and bootlick liberals on your own show. It means you can pretend to be the everyman – the “layman,” as Stewart so cloyingly states in his Cramer interview — even when you’re representing a rabid partisan base that cheers your every move.
Now Stewart and Maher are down in the political mud. With Stewart’s decision to enter into direct combat with anyone who lays a glove on his White House valentine, he becomes fair game. With Maher’s anti-religious documentary and his shilling for the Obama administration, he too enters the pantheon of hard-nosed politics.
So here are a couple starting questions for Stewart and Maher:
Jon: You said in your Cramer interview, “When are we going to realize in this country that our wealth is work?” Is Warren Buffett’s wealth “work,” or is it wise investment of capital? How about Bill Gates? Should we all sell our stock and stop trying to invest our money in companies in which we believe? You also said this financial crisis was because of “guys that had leveraged 35 to 1,” not because of “mortgage holders.” We can agree that the guys who allowed the 35 to 1 loans were idiots. But let me ask you this: didn’t the borrowers leverage 35 to 1? Even if you’re a borrower, aren’t you just a bit complicit in bad leveraging, particularly if you lie about your salary to get the loan? And speaking of leveraging, isn’t Obama’s plan leveraging phantom future dollars for current spending precisely the problem you’re talking about here, except on a far larger scale?
Bill: You claim Rush Limbaugh is racist. Yet he has not been sued based on alleged racial comments. You have. Does that mean you’re a racist? Or should we examine your words for “code” based on such allegations? Meanwhile, you rip religion on a regular basis, and you state that you believe in science. Fair enough. But do you believe that science inherently provides moral checks? Are you willing to defend Larry Summers’ research on women in hard sciences? How about Charles Murray’s works? Or, if you’re willing to go all the way for science, how about Dr. Mengele or the experiments at Tuskegee?
I know you’re both comedians, and therefore that you are at a higher moral level than the rest of us poor political schlubs. But now that you’ve deigned to descend from on high, how about answering a few questions yourselves?






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John Stewart and Bill Maher are actually #2 and #3 on my list of people I'd really like to punch in the face just behind Geroge Clooney and slightly ahead of Matt Damon. I know that it's irrelevant but sadly this list exist.
Also kudos to Andrew for putting up with that shouting contest that was posing as a debate, I'd have choke slammed the racist black guy and as afore mentioned punched Bill Maher in the face.
Yes, John Stewart and Bill Maher are terribly unfunny. That's why their shows have been cancelled while that "conservative" humor show on Fox is the hottest thing on TV.
You make some very good points. The biggest problem I have with guys like Maher and Stewart is that their comedy is lazy and hypocritical. To find them funny, you have to buy into their world view. Not only does their comedy make no sense if you don't agree with them, but part of the humor involves being part of the "in crowd" and laughing at the "fools" who come on the show and try to explain their own views — which the "in crowd" knows are laughable. It's the equivalent of school yard bullying, sans the punching.
Moreover, their world view is incredibly uninformed. Neither Stewart nor Maher have any real understanding of law, economics, finance, or science. Instead, they rely on "gottcha tactics" and verbal slight of hand. They're like webTrolls on television.
Crame, who I do not like — always wrong and a democrat to boot — should never have humored Stewart.
It's funny you leftos keep making that point, because you always seem to forget that guys like Rush (who provides political commentary mixed with humor, like Maher and Stewart claim to do) reach 10 times the number of people Maher and Stewart reach every day. So who is really the hottest thing?
Outstanding article, Ben!
The saddest part about these two is that many Americans actually believe they are receiving NEWS from them.
If they want to portray themselves as journalists/reporters, they should be subject to the same standards. Without their guise of "comedian," I am sure they would have many slander suits against them with their tabloid-style editing and reporting. (I am sure Rush Limbaugh and CNBC could sue, for example).
I give kudos to Andrew Breitbart as well for walking into the lion's den. FWIW, I was reminded of Greg Koukl's "Stand to Reason" teaching, which is used to help evangelical Christians promote a healthy view of Christianity to non-believers by doing what Mr. Breitbart did in the political realm. That is, you show yourself to be reasonable, polite, and calm and let your opponents self-destruct. Just as Koukl's method reaches non-believers, Breitbart using the same method reaches liberals.
Despite all that, my first reaction would have been to go hockey on BM… We need more people like Mr. Breitbart, and more of those types going into hostile ground, as Mr. Breitbart did.
I agree 100%. I tried watching the interview with Andrew online last night, but I can't stand Maher at all. Dyson just rambled about his alleged code words and really didn't back himself up. If not for Andrew, I would feel like I had last more brain cells than hard drug users, moving into an "Obama is supreme" stupor. I had to stop watching because I almost broke my computer by throwing it against the wall so that I could get Maher's face off of it.
Ben, be sure to add Eugen Fischer to your list in the next to last paragraph…
Message to Jon Stewart,
Jon,
Congrats on taking Jim Cramer and CNBC to task. A group of people commentate and and try to predict what happens in the markets around the world. You are a comedian but this show was about advocacy in an area you obviously know nothing about. What about the people who actually caused the meltdown vs. the people who saw it, reported on it, but did not predict it to your liking. Stay on your roll and go after the people who caused it, like; Clinton, Bush, Franks, Dodd, Pelosi, and Reed. You could do 6 more not funny advocacy shows and further your cause. What is your cause by the way?
Ray Prescott
Charlotte, NC
whoa…i have arrived. my comment is in moderation.
Now me, I'm an conservative civil engineer who fancies himself a buffonish jackass and can get laughs alot more readily (and without pay) than either Maher or Stewart. Maybe I'm in the wrong business.
Stewart and Maher attack people because they attack Barack Obama and the Democrats, that was what Jim Cramer's mortal sin was.
Ben, obviously you got your talking points from Tucker Carlson. At least try something original. Jon Stewart is funny, and CNBC pulled their own pants down to show the world it's all true. Go back to your high school paper, hack.
Family Guy was ALWAYS a dull (and derivative) version of The Simpsons, with a bit of South Park-lite thrown in…
John Stewart is funny, Bill Maher no longer is, but both engage in one-sided dialogue that pretends to offer a fair platform to opponents, when it's really just a public stockade for their mob to pelt their favorite fools.
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John Stewart to roast The Weather Channel for raking in profits using grossly inaccurate predictions.
That's funny!! LOL!!
Comedians used to be judged by their technique. Bob Hope could make anyone laugh. Johnny Carson was the king of getting out of a bad joke. Groucho Marx was the king of the double entendre. All of these guys could take a newspaper and make jokes out of any of the stories. They could jab R’s as well as D’s, and be equally funny.
Hacks like Stewart and Maher can never be the stars they think they are. They lack that simple ability to poke fun at both sides. Even when Bill Hicks was at his most drug addled, he could still take shots at liberals and conservatives. That is why Bill Hicks was a comic genius and these two are to be pitied. Imagine that nagging pain that comes from both of these guys knowing that no matter how famous they may be, they will never reach the promised land. They will never be seen as anything more than what they are today.
Feel sorry for these guys and others like them.
"Stay on your roll and go after the people who caused it, like; Clinton, Bush, Franks, Dodd, Pelosi, and Reed."
I guess I am wondering how Bush CAUSED 'it"? In fact, even though you mentioned a bunch of libs I can't stand as well, out of your list of people I would have to honestly say that if "it" means the Mortgage crash it would look more like this: Bill Clinton (and dems) 50% Franks 30% Dodd 10% Obama 10%. I have a hard time seeing how Bush has ANY accountability considering that he made it a point to try and regulate the GSE's Fannie and Freddie and roll back the Community Reinvestment act or at the least Acorns litigation powers. And he didn't do it just once, between him and McCain, I believe they tried 14 times. Although, Bush admittedly blinked at the end, the damage was done. Make no mistake about this, it it weren't for the Community reinvestment act being updated during the Clinton administration giving the government the leverage to shut down banks that didn't write what ended up being sub prime loans and the GSE Fan and fred underwriting the vast majority of them, none of this would have happened. It's pretty amazing to see how the media and so called "news sources" have obfuscated the blame for this issue to the point where almost no one really gets how this thing happened. Of course, that is how the very people who caused the collapse then get elected to come in and "fix it." Amazing. Would the founders have ever believed that the amount of misinformation that is out there and commonly accepted could have ever happened with a supposedly "free press?"
The campaign agaisnt Cramer has succeded for one reason, is audience is too small. Compare that to Rush's audience of over 20,000,000, he faced a more vociferous campaign agaisnt him, that did not work. Too bad, I liked Cramer his show was very entertaining.
(standing ovation)
"Sarah Silverman grates like nails made of bitchy on a chalkboard made of whining"
Fine way to talk about a lady there, honeydripper
I don't really mind hacks like Stewart and Maher doing their awful schtick and vigilantly defending the new regime because I choose not to watch it. The really grating thing is when they insist at the same time that they are still "boldly transgressive" and brave as all get-out. For eight years I waited for Bush's goons to show up on The Daily Show and cart Stewart off to that gulag Karl Rove had waiting for him but it never happened. And Bill Maher cleverly avoided the Nazi dragnet by hiding out on HBO, Showtime and various college campuses and talk shows. Despite their celebrity, wealth, social acceptance and ability to bag porn stars, both of these schnooks go around acting like the second coming of Diedrich Bonhoeffer. The reality is that they are part of a lockstep celebrity culture that is about as non-conformist as a group of Orwell's workers taking part in a Five-Minutes Hate in 1984. That is an irony they are just too dense to see.
Wow, jealousy they name is Phillip. Dude, that's creepy even for a troll.
Your question of Jon needs to go further.
Jon: You said in your Cramer interview, “When are we going to realize in this country that our wealth is work?”
Jon, how can you lecture people about "work" when your income is based on sponsorship by multibillion-dollar corporations?
CNBC pulled their pants down? So that's how Matthews got that chill up his leg.
Sorry, but, Cramer has only himself to blame. He let Stewart rip him a new one, looked like a milquetoast at the mercy of a guy who isn't even a journalist. As a tv guy Stewart was within his rights to criticize Cramer. Usually Stewart is a terrible interviewer but I thought he did a good job.
I think Jon Stewart is funny. I think the dishonest interview with Cramer slipped into the unfunny category. I think that happens when someone has an agenda, takes themselves to seriously and then tries to use their platform to promote that agenda. Then the agenda rules and (for Jon) not the funny.
Where was Jon a year ago when Cramer actually made the rec's and Bear Stearns tanked? Oh, that's right… that was back before Cramer dissed Obama's agenda.
Now, what Cramer did on The Daily Show. THAT was well beyond shameful. He needs an emergency stones extraction operation.
I would like to see a real debate!!!
I would like to see a debate with any of these guys and a conservative. I'd like to see this debate on TV or film but with out a live audience. I would like to see this debate with a strong moderator who would not let the respondent get away with not answering the challenges. I don't think I'll ever see such a debate.
Does anyone remember a funny show on Comedy Central called 'The Daily Show'? It was great. It poked fun at all political idiocy, cultural depravity, and, most importantly, it took shots at the pomposity of those in the media themselves. The anchor and correspondants were straightly played charicatures of what we are assaulted with from the MSM every day. Even on set interviews were surreal(remember the 5 Questions?).
It was replaced, in the 90's by something called 'The Daily ShowWithJonStewart' in which an unfunny failed comic from MTV completely abandoned the show's premise in favor of a style of humor characterized by repeated incitements by the performer to laugh at the joke he just told.
I miss The Daily Show immensely, I was a devoted fan. Are there any others out there who remember 'A Moment For Us', or 'Godstuff', Or our precious 'Moments of Zen'?
Very much like schoolyard bullying — with some "bwahhhaaa" thrown in.
And, yes, it's like people who say something just awful to you and then — oh, I was just kidding — ha, ha!!
Idiots.
Golly, wr1. You sure put us in our place, didn't ya?
Hollywood puts out crappy movies, and some people still go see them. Bad books get printed, and some people still buy them. Bad TV gets aired, and some people still watch it.
The best way to measure the cultural relevance of any product of our popular media is by checking out the growth and evolution of the viewing audience. How many NEW viewers does Maher and Stewart add every month? every year? Now that the novelty has warn off, I predict we'll start to see a decline, as the viewers begin to catch on.
Everyone who agrees with their schtick will already be committed viewers. But, everyone else will see them for the cess pool of social malignancy that they are. If you truly want to be part of the healthy national discourse on any topic, the absolutely LAST people you should be following would be these two Himbos.
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I quit watching the Daily Show about two months after John Stewart became the host. I think at that time he hadn't even sharpened his libby claws yet, he was just flat out not funny. I tried to watch the full clip of his chat with Cramer but it was far too painful, but then again I don't know what I expected.
I'm not sure how Andrew put up with all that, I agree with Brandon that I probably would have thrown some punches and just left.
I quit watching the Daily Show about two months after John Stewart became the host. I think at that time he hadn't even sharpened his libby claws yet, he was just flat out not funny. I tried to watch the full clip of his chat with Cramer on youtube but it was far too painful, but then again I don't know what I expected.
I'm not sure how Andrew put up with all that, I agree with Brandon that I probably would have thrown some punches and just left.
Part of Jon Stewart's smack-down of Cramer included old clips of Cramer making predictions that proved to be wrong. Would anyone make a montage of past Stewart pronouncements that turned out to be idiotic?
P.S. Ben Shapiro, you are one of the very best and brightest. Keep up the good work.
Compare an old Daily Show to one this week. Track how often the audience laughs vs how often they clap or cheer, and you'll find even the Obamabots are laughing less and less at this 'funny' guy.
Joe Scarborough was right, though, about Jon Stewart. Stewart is only funny in that the well trained audience reacts to his mugging. For a long time now he has been predictable and stale. His predictability would have been the kiss of death to a comedian except for the fact that his audience loves to get the strokes of feeling their viewpoint parroted back at them.
Right on, Ben. The Maher / Stewart knee-jerk-laugh-track-audience is just into preening their egos by having their point of view reflected back at them in a cool, wink-wink, nudge-nudge way. I had to extract my teeth from my knuckles after watching the ridiculous performance that was supposed to have passed for a discussion in the Maher time. They had become embedded there in an effort to restrain myself from screaming uselessly at the screen. And, frankly, I was unable to watch the sanctimonious ass of Stewart talking with Cramer.
Look who CNBC is using to attack Jon Stewart. (Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson) Not exactly the cream of the crop. They realize they can't win because most people are fed up with the hypocritical CEO's and Government lackies that created this mess. However, CNBC does have the losers on this forum that keep defending a lost cause in the Republicans. I say drop the politics, and get behind the President to help straighten out this country. The war is over, you lost. Get over it…
I yield to your experience at not being the cream of the crop to make that determination.
"Dyson" is code word for "hypocrite."
Yeah, my first one was too, even though I didn't cuss or nothin'
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A violent fantasy in the first comment! Well that was fast.
Loser…
LOL!!! Come on Phil, it's FOX… FOX is the evil empire. CNBC is part of the NBC flock. Dude, it you can't keep up, buy a playbook.
What a whiny post. I contend there is another objective measure of comedy Ben. It is called ratings. Face the fact that funny and creative people run away from your social ideology. Also, serious question for Ben. Were you the little kid that played Isaac in 'Children of the Corn'? I am sure you have been asked before.
LOL!!! Great comeback kid. And I might retort, "you are a booger."
You must be referring to that clown Glenn Beck.
Seriously this dipstick is taking his headlines from Tucker Carlson's mouth. First of all it was Stewart who called CARLSON a hack on Crossfire so for Tucker to call him a hack is weak. Conservatives can't recognize good comedy because they're too busy giving comedians material. I mean come on people, Carlson is one giant tool.
you never laugh at a comedian you do not like. If you didn't like Jack Benny, you didn't laugh at his jokes. Maher and Stewart are very good and funny. personally, I enjoy them. Stewart said "I want this Jim Cramer to protect me from that Jim Cramer". I honestly felt bad for the guy. Jon Stewart is brilliant. If you watch the interview on comedycentral.com I don't know how you can come away from it not applauding Jon Stewart. I thank god he's on my side.
Their humor is neither lazy or hypocritical. Anything but…
Yep… thank you Jon. And Bill… I really enjoy him as well. I keep about a dozen of hid "Top 10" lists in the cd player.
"Political comedy can be funny. But political comedy requires that the comics do not see themselves as crusaders standing up to the man. The “speaking truth to power” folks are about as humorous as a punch in the groin, and nearly as painful."
I disagree, with all due respect. A lot of political comedy is irreverence to the powers that be. Only the libs confuse the powers that be as people who create things and give people jobs rather than opportunistic political hacks, their propaganda arms in the media and universities, and the use of force that backs up the protection racket that is government.
Can't you see that Stewart can't be held accountable because he's a "comedian"? Don't you remember what Sal Alinsky said about ridicule being the most potent weapon in the radical arsenal? Why? Because you don't refute ridicule. You are either shamed by it or you react against it, thus granting it validity. Either way, you lose.
i can't decide what is funnier, conservative comedy critiques or britefart getting pwnd like a pony.
then again there is the hilarity of the posts defending the highly unethical if not criminal 'cramer' after seeing him brag about screwing the people that invest their life savings in 'the market'. that takes some seriously twisted logic, since scumbags like 'cramer' have probably had their hands in all of our pockets at one time or another.
this is the funniest site on the net, tragically funny, but still f u n n y
Hi Ben and commenters. I just wanted to share with you a comment I sent to Stewart and Comedy Central:
"Oh, please. Just like Joe Scarborough says, Stewart has a flock of researchers who comb through news and video of the target and come up with zingers, gotchas etc. Not a difficult thing to do to someone who has been out in the world taking risks and making things happen. What was humiliating Cramer supposed to accomplish in light of the fact that his original criticism of the government policy was a valid criticism.
Lame. Jon Stewart then runs behind his cover as a comedian when he himself is criticized. Easy as shooting ducks in a barrel, especially when done in front of that trained dog you call an audience. They preen happily in the shared warmth of their own opinions being shined back at them.
Stewart you are stale, predictable and your obscene slantedness is getting old, man."
Yawn. Of look, it's the guy with the crush on Crowder. LOL!!!
Why the #ell do you keep bringing up Tucker Carlson? No one else mentioned him, no one here cares about him, and he is not part of the story, in any way. Ben did mention Scarborough, so why not contain your remarks to the topic, or are you really teh stupid? Scratch that, I already know. I have read so many of your pithy posts here, I should know by now, DFTT.
Somecat, you found this post to be "whiny"? That is true about ratings, but just because the ratings are there it doesn't mean that a thinking human being is watching. I am sure that the lemming count is way high for those two shows. Seriously, somecat, even you must find Stewart's pulling a surprised or confused face to be getting pretty stale. And Maher, doesn't he just seem to be a robot spouting off a preprogrammed point of view? That's what the non-critical thinking crowd likes these days.
Yes, your post is whiny. Any more questions idiot?
how pathetic that you keep visiting then isn't it?
This isn't about Republicans, genius. It's about conservatism.
YOU drop the politics
of look! (sic) what me and chowder had is in the past. i've moved on. now i ❤ 'gentle ben'.
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golly, jayne! i hope the intern that deletes that very articulate missive, doesn't take it too hard.
Ratings is how you decide if something is funny? What a sad, messed up life you must lead. Does you family hold up little number signs and rate you everytime you make a funny? No? Then how the #ell did you know if it was funny, or not?
Sadly, you are right.
Interesting and accurate take, Ray. Where is this edgy comedy that takes on all comers we keep hearing about? I guess that's a figment in the Hollywood conformist faux radical mind. There is nothing "radical" about the 75 year status quo of expanding welfare programs, government bureaucracy, and handouts for unions. As Jefferson (a bonified radical) wrote, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." The idea that liberty lies through the state is just that – a lie.
RH,
Do you want me to start directing people to your site and let them watch all of your self made videos of you talking into the camera with you face up against it, with the weird lites and coming off like a pedophile? I am sure they would be enlightened, I know I was.
All I can say is, I get HBO for FREE and stll cant watch Bill Maher..which is really causing me quite a dilemma. See I desperately would like to take a stand and tell HBO to stuff their monthly subscriptiton, like I did to the New York Times (and look what happened to them), but because I get HBO for free, my only act of rebellion is just not watching Bill..I can honestly say the only time I have caught his show is during promos…and even that was too much BS to listen to from a smug jerk like Maher. I suppose I should look on the bright sideand say Thank God I dont have to pay for HBO,but for the love of all that is Holy, if I had to, I can guarentee you he would be the reason I stuffed my size 11 foot up HBO managements gaping asscrack to reach their pateticaLLY NON-EXISTENT BRAINS
Gee, I wonder why they were inaccurate…could it have to do with the global warming agenda?
Should have known. Thanks for the heads up.
NICE JOB, BEN! I hope Bill Maher one day has the balls to invite you on his show so you can verbally wipe that snarky little liberal grin off his know-it-all face. Bitch slap him, Ben!
Curious- what exactly is ENJOYABLE about Shill Maher? It seems like he's miserable ALL the time, even about subjects he's right-on about (hey, it happens on occasion)…
well played my brave anonymous friend!
let that be a lesson to you kids! throw around the term "pedophile" if you want to say something but can't think of anything clever. child r4pe is a useful instrument in any lost argument. and don't worry kids, using "pedophile" for such purposes doesn't dilute the meaning nor does it trivialize the word.
the more you know…
leave this guy where he and zerobama should be – on zero
leave this idiot alone – these fools are just trolling for negative and the run back to kdooks and brag about it.
I can apreciate why Jon and Bill hide behind the "comedy shield". They do so in order to say what eveybody wants to say while not having to pay the consequences. So it does serve a purpose. My problem is when they take themselves too serious and forget that they are just comedians. Stewart can be funny I watch his show, I have a few laughs, and I go to bed. I got to tell you the way he skull f*!@ed Cramer was just wrong and belive me that was a skull f!@king. Cramer had already thrown in the towel thats why he was there! but Jon kept digging in. Its like he just watched Frost/Nixon and said me too! Jon if you want to be a reporter fine go be one but don't pick and choose which one thing you want to be serious(truthful) about.
I guess I find all of these: they're not funny/why won't they make fun of Obama posts to be whiny. I am granting you that most comedians are liberal. Obviously sticking to your ideology is important to you and I don't fault conservatives for it. It is commendable. I just get tired of the constant claims of victim hood. Yes you do claim it (I hear the howls)! A nameless and faceless they are conspiring to keep you from being funny. C'mon enough already.
Now Bill, you dont get Religion great me either but I m not out to destroy christianity and in your documentary, where were your gotcha jokes inside the dome of the rock? Couldnt call out the Muslims? Spineless! Also would it hurt to let one Right Wing Mind get his point across rather than let him be interupted by someone nutty professor who justifies his own racism with past racism. If Stewart and Bill really cared or wanted change, they would look to their buddy Al Franken. I don't agree with Al Frankens politcal views but I have to respect the fact that at least he put his chips on the table and isnt hiding behind his shield…..anymore.
leave the "pedophile revhutchall" like he is – a zero
TEHSTUPID
It's called humor…oh wait i forgot the left lost their's about 10 years ago along with; common sense, sense of decency, dignity, and love of country.
Cha-Ching!
Mr. Shapiro, thanks for putting to words what my frustration couldn't.
Claiming comedian status as self-defense for being a partisan aperatchik. As Kevin on, The Office would say, "Niiiice."
Cha-Ching!
Mr. Shapiro, thanks for putting to words what my frustration could not.
Claiming comedian status as self-defense for being a partisan aperatchik. As Kevin on, The Office would say, "Niiiice."
So Rush has cornered the AM radio market. You might a well brag thatthe town of Albright, WV is the number one manafactuer of support hose.
Cha-Ching!
Mr. Shapiro, thanks for putting to words what my frustration could not.
Claiming comedian status as self-defense for being a partisan aperatchik. As Kevin on, The Office would say, "Niiiice."
Agenda? There is no agenda here! The science is settled! Settled, I say!
Silverman, a lady? That's funnier than anything Stewart's ever said!!!!
Add "Letterwoman" to the list as well. What happened to entertainment? If I wanted political idiocy just turn on any NBC owned news organization. Sadly, the only one with any guts is "south park". Sad, isn't it?
Would you like us to use you and your ilk as our shining example of how to support a sitting President? We are more than happy to oblige. Also what war? The one you and your comrades on the left have been praying we would lose in Iraq in Afghanistan, or some other war we were unaware of?
You guys are really like petulent children you'll see in toy stores screaming and throwing tantrums, yelling "I hate you Mommy" over and over until she buys you a new toy than all of a sudden you love them again. That is how you and your collective have treated this country and frankly you make "most people" sick.
When they aren't buggering each other in their mom's basement that is.
So now Rush is a comedian again, just like Olberman says? I thought he was a great intellectual force in the Republican party, the deep thinker of conservatives. Wish you guys would make up your minds.
John Stewart has been hosting The Daily Show for a decade. I think the "novelty" wore off a long time ago. As for the growth of the audience? Right now, who knows. But again, this is a "mature" show — hold your fire, I'm talking about the lifespan of a series, not the tenor of its writing — and if it doesn't continually grow it's because it's found its audience. Which happens to be the biggest audience on its network.
Because AM Radio is where it's at!
So when, exactly, did John Stewart say or imply that he was "boldly transgressive"? A link would be good. Although it's tough to link to the part of your anatomy from which you've pulled this ludicrous statement.
The Talking Point (Jon Stewart=partisan hack) was generated out of the flatulent hole that is Tucker Carlson's mouth. Obviously you don't even know where the redundant garbage you utter over and over and over and over comes from.
Get a brain, Moran.
Alinsky and his slavering acolytes remind me of the asshole kid at every school (there was probably one at yours, too) who invented a new, completely unbeatable option for rock-scissors-paper and relentless badgered everyone else on the playground into adopting his new "atomic-bomb-beats-everything" rule.
Does this applyy to Limbaugh and Hannity and all those other rightwing yappers? Should they stop hiding behind their shield and run for office, too?
Bush had a chance to answer to everything you just said and did nothing. Nancy Pelosi stood up in the House and said that this crisis was 8 years of Bush Policy. So Bush was either too ignorant or too chicken to say who caused the mess. I agree that this was mostly caused by do gooder libs who wanted to give things to people who could not afford the payments. Yes the Republicans tried to force rules upon Freddie and Fannie and Franks stopped them and so did Dodd and even Obama with a filbuster. I'm just mad as hell that nobody will say that. Franks has been on so many shows and nobody, not even Chris Wallace will ask the simple question " Do you regret opposing Republicans who wanted to regulate Freddy and Fanny"
Dude I'm not trolling for a GD thing. I come here to get the latest Republican nonsense so that I'm prepared when I hear it regurgitated by the conservative stenographer zombies walking around town. Plus, since this is one of the few conservative sites that actually let people respond to their garbage.
See that's the beautiful thing about conservatives. Spend a few minutes online and you know ahead of time what words are going to come out of the political opposition's mouths on any subject. You all say the same thing.
Basically I come here to be reassured that you're still burying yourselves in your own b.s.
And believe me, I am QUITE certain that you're not going to start accepting reality and making decent, persuasive arguments ANYTIME SOON. So I 100% encourage you to continue denying responsibility for the disaster you have created. Nothing makes me happier.
Brandon was engaging in *satire* but you just didn't get it. Try trading the "Clooney" and "Damon" names for "Bush" and "Cheney" and I'm sure you'll see it's abso-frickin'-lutely heee-larious.
Because, as you all know, anonymous posters are the REAL winners.
One thing's for sure: Anonymous posters are well acquainted with weak hackery.
Said the anonymous coward whose comments are on the intellectual level of those from "MagnoliaFan" from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back…
Who is Ben Shapiro?
He is not funny. I think he delivers newspapers. Y'know… the ones about trading cars that no one reads.
Our minds are made up, sounds like you're the one who is confused.
So you honestly believe the saintly Democrats had no involvement in this? See the problem is we try and have civil logical discourse with you but it never works, you always resort to snarky insults and red herring arguements. Not one of us in here thinks Republicans had no involvement in this problem. I for one am not a Republican I think both sides are disgusting and corrupt and should be voted out of office at the earliest opportunity. The problem is people like you and some of the hardcore right wingers in here think this is about taking sides.
Now which disaster are you referring to? I would love the discuss it with you if you are sincere about wanting to have a logical discussion.
Rush has always claimed to be an entertainer. You Dems are the ones who claim Rush is the leader of the conservatives. Jeez you guys have a hard time following things, don't you. Also, re: Paul_D- Rush has cornered the AM market and probably reaches 10-times the audience either Stewart or Maher do. His entertainment show dwarfs theirs and that is a lot of the reason Stewart and Maher are obsessed with him.
What the heck does Jim Moran (D-Va, a..wipe) have to do with this? You really are stupid aren't you?
Neither Maher's show this week or Jon Stewart's interview with Cramer were funny this week. If your going to play a critic, t least use better examples of their work. Jon Stewart is often much funnier than that piece. And Maher is more cutting and astute that "ha-ha funny"….
Right, stupid lefty, just one person on earth realized that it Stewart and Maher are partisan hacks. Good god you are stupid. Bottom line is that president Hopey was called out for doing stupid crap and idiot leftists are standing in line to defend him, aka, partisan hack style.
Wow, teh stoopit finally makes a coherent comment.
I guess "violent fantasy" is only cool when it takes the form of movies that have the assassination of Bush as their plot. Or when Sandra Bernhard talks about how it'd be funny if Palin was gang raped by some of Bernhard's "homies" in NYC.
hypocrisy much, you tiny brained twit?
yes, he's conquered the AM radio market, and in the process reaches far more people than stewart and maher, who labor in the cable market.
How could Limbaugh be down on this. Whenever Limbaugh got called on an incorrect statement, his fallback consistently was "hey, I'm just an entertainer."
What is funny is, Stewart on the Daily Show is practically a left-wing carbon copy of Rush Limbaugh's very entertaining 1990's television show. Seriously, if you can find clips of Limbaugh's show, watch them, they are awesome. Clip #1 is some douchebag like James Carville saying he never said something, followed by MINUTES of clips of Carville saying exactly what he supposedly didn't say. During the government shutdown, Limbaugh was the ONLY one pointing out that the exact same Social Security policy that Clinton was vetoing Congress' budget over was one of his campaign promises! He harped on that for so long that the media finally picked up on it and wouldn't let Clinton get away with saying the budget "slashed" Social Security.
Now watch Stewart, and it's largely the same thing. When Stewart had Cramer on his show, they showed multiple clips of Cramer EXPLICITLY, with NO chance of misinterpretation, telling people to break the law by spreading false information about a product launch because "the SEC won't understand what you did anyway." Left or right, I don't care. I want people on television pointing this stuff out that the mainstream media won't touch with a ten foot pole. Limbaugh and Stewart have a great deal of freedom because as entertainers they are not part of the media "establishment." Crossfire was crap, for whatever reason Stewart was the only one that was willing to say it. It could have just as easily been a conservative commentator.
Jon Stewart meet your new government appointed "Fairness Doctrine" co-host: Larry the Cable Guy!
Yeh because anyone who disagrees with Obama is playing politics. Right?
Both shows rely heavily on the clapping chimps they call an audience to show how funny they are, which isn't edgy or hip, it's rather quite pathetic.
There is a debate on youtube between Dennis Pragar and Rachel Miller. It's interesting to watch and there is an audience but what you'll get to see is the classic debate that takes place now days. Intellectual vs mantra.
You mean you actually support that Dryson guy? What has he, Jackson, Sharpton, or even the entire Democratic party ever done to improve the lives of the black community? At the end of the day, it all comes down to the individual– not a race based organization, and not the government. That was the point Breitbart was trying to make, had he not been interrupted at every opportunity.
And not to defend Cramer, but short selling has always been a reality of the market. Your disapproval should be directed at the SEC, and not the players. Honestly, I don't think you care either way. It's just a hotbutton issue for you to take a convenient position on.
I allways thought someone put an ice cube down his pants.
SO are you the type of troll that lives under a bridge and eats goats or more of the eat childern lost in the forst type?
Wow. What a snotty, insufferable comment! So cable is the only place where truth gets spoken to power & millions hear & obey, huh?
Sportstalk radio is almost 100% AM. AM stations connected with the four networks also broadcast presidential debates, presidential speeches, and Sunday morning chat shows. AM radio provides shut-ins & others who can't make it to church the opportunity to hear the service live.
AM radio gives local farmers farm reports. Gives local businessmen business reports. Carries live any news of national import. Allows local residents to call in about local politics.
And. It's. Free.
My favorite political comedy show: Wait! Wait! Dont tell me!
Sure they are libs and it comes through, but they hit both sides of the spectrum and they treat the people that come on thier show, liberal, conservative, and other, with both respect and ribbings.
I will be happy to get behind the POTUS. Is he standing by a fifth story window???
Irrespective of who said it, Stewart is a coward and a dope. In another venue without his prepared clips, he is really a little turd, kind of like, well, you!
thank you for your hackneyed input. that would have been quite clever 5 or 10 years ago. you should cut and paste instead of trying to retype your funny funny all by yourself. otherwise, you will set a bad example for the "childern" of the "forst". lol
i simply posit arguments to break up the monotony of the squawking parrots on these boards. but, alas, it's always parrots that attempt to reply.
While not exactly a revelation, the usefulness of this post (and others like it) is that political hackery is just that; one cannot disguise this as clever humor to anyone else that those ingesting heavily of the Red kool-aid. Stewart is a genuinely funny guy, unlike Maher who just wishes he was. However, both put ideological goonery ahead of any
thoughtful examination of the facts, and as such all conservative thought, either in idea or ruminations of a guest are to be A) rebutted, B) ridiculed and C) rejected.
Their lack of ideological honesty will be their undoing, as Mr Breitbart and others such as he are now demonstrating.
The denizens of this site are interested in all sides of the issue and this is a growing (and wonderful) phenomenon.
You wil soon see the turning away from the synchopanthic ravings of these people and the embracing of common sense… which can be funny as well.
That's funny!!
Both Stewart and Maher look for applause rather than laughs. The hallmark of the failed comedian.
Ben, here's their pattern: Take something out of context, and beat down your opponent with it. Context requires explanation, and if you are on their turf, they have the audience and the host's control of the conversation to cut you off at anytime. It keeps people on the defensive, and therefore submissive.
The proper way to deal with this is to be general and concise, and throw a question right back at them.
How long does it take to get "moderated" comments posted now?
Ben, here's their pattern: Take something out of context or unsupported, and beat down your opponent with it. Context and supported rebuttals require more explanation, and if you are on their turf, they have the audience and the host's control to cut you off prematurely. It keeps people on the defensive, and therefore submissive. In Cramer's case, he just couldn't formulate a proper response. For a guy from the business world, he's terrible at overcoming objections.
But the proper way to deal with this is to be general and concise, and throw the question right back at them.
Cramer folded, because GE CEO, Jeff Imhelt sat him down in the conference room, closed the windows and dimmed the sconces. "You have messed with the cosmic forces Mr. Cramer, you have disrupted the forces of nature and YOU WILL ATONE." Then he goes on Stewart with his new directive and is biotched slapped by that master of mugging pomposity. He looked like whipped puppy dog, while Jon went for the throat. I was embarrassed for him.
But the real skunk that frosts my stones is Olbermann. Night after night same old stuff. I never watch it, I just find it disquieting that he's always there tirading about faux news. Absurd.
So true. It's not about comedy, it's a pep rally.
I smell a lefty troll trying to change the subject.
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPj9a5wvTk0” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPj9a5wvTk0
Here is a funny clip. Of course it's ancient. Back when total leftist think wasn't in place. It's Maher and Dennis Miller, BTW. I found a great one last night, of Miller and Stewart, back when Stewart was funny, on his own.
Since when are intelligence, wit, and sense of humor exclusive of each other. Rush beats Maher and Stewart in all those categories, handily.
Surely that was irony?
Surely you are being ironic?
What a funny and creative reply. Oh how I envy you funny and creative types, even though the ones you actually encounter are mostly bitter and angry. Like you. To bad the people you get elected are not exactly smart or creative. Unless 1930s style corporatist fascism is smart or creative.
What a funny and creative reply. Oh how I envy you funny and creative types, even though the libs I actually encounter are mostly bitter and angry. Like you. To bad the people you get elected are not exactly smart or creative. Unless 1930s style corporatist fascism is smart or creative.
I think the word you were really looking for is "predictable".
I have never ever seen Stewart or Maher challenge any liberal conviction but then I don´t watch a lot of tv – it´s a waste of time. Can you give me one example of Stewart slaughtering a liberal holy cow? Can you even give me an example of what slaughtering a liberal holy cow might look like?
Dear dcase . Wonderfully said . I would echo your comments. Stewart can be funny, but has become so blatantly partisan with a lack of intellectual honesty that I can't watch him anymore. As for Maher, I think the most telling thing about him was his old show, Politically Incorrect, where he would pit himself and 3 liberal guest against a lone conservative all in front of a liberally sympathetic audience . It was his idea, I suppose of fairness, This from a man who thinks himself a defender of truth and justice. I found it once again a metaphor of how libs play when they have all the power in a given situation. "Fairness" and "freedom of speech" tend to evaporate.
And of course you are correct, any thoughtful difference of opinion would be ridiculed . On Mahers' show , P I, when he had a sharp conservative on like Alan Keyes who would score with a concise and strong point, Maher, would crack sarcastic and cut to commercial. Shapiro was right on target in his column. These guys try to play political, but rather than face real debate they default to making faces and taking cheap shots like Stewarts' infantile name calling of Carlson. In truth, they are clowns and any one who looks to them for anything of substance is as much of a fool as the fool himself. More to the point, they are cowards who know they cannot win at real debate. Hopefully, the audience will wise up, but you are a bit more optimistic than I am. Still, some of us will continue to fight the fight for intellectual honesty. I did find an apparently intellectual honest liberal the other day. Have you read Camille Paglia at Salon.com ? She is an admitted liberal Dem , who is not afraid to question the global warmers, who calls the "Fairness Doctrine" ridiculous and who is not afraid to call out some of the Chosen One's bad policy's. It was nice to see some intellectual honesty in this sea of foolishness. Perhaps, if there are a few more like her there is hope for honest debate in this country.
I'd pay to see both Maher and Stewart beheaded by the Taliban. They can both rot in hell.
You misunderstood Nate's post. He's talking about "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me!" which is an NPR radio show.
I like it too. Light, witty and civilized entertainment.
A day on which both Ben Shapiro and Amanda Peyser post on Big Hollywood is a bad day for Big Hollywood. Talk about your "partisan hacks"!
So, essentially what you're saying is that because these people are comedians they have to be funny all of the time — even when discussing gravtias laden topics like the economic meltdown? What about at dinner with their families? Do they have to be funny then? I don't care if you lean to the right or the left… this argument doesn't make any sense, and it should be especially nonsensical to those of us in the industry.
C'mon. Jon Stewart has an understanding of Economics — he may not be working from the same (I would assume Friedmanian?) economic framework as you, but certainly you can't dispute that the man is intelligent & generally holds reasonable and informed viewpoints. As for your other point about your having to buy into Stewart and Maher's worldview in order to find them funny, I agree, and think that this is a good point. I would, however, suggest that you consider the degree to which this is true of all comedy. Comedy is cultural, and — at the risk of sounding like a "poststructuralist" — ideological. Have you ever heard a West African joke? I have and am incapable of finding them funny.
Problem with Paglia (other than being a lib) is her inability to see any fallability on Obamas part. For example, she wrote an article accusing Carville and Begala as behaving like drunken frats boys. She goes on to blast other people in Obamas cabinet, but in her writings she fails to realize that OBAMA SELECTED THEM. She sees no culpability on Obamas part.
Dumb and Dumber.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
It seems far sadder, that right-wing media can't do the comedy thing and therefore pretends that what it reports IS NEWS.
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowled...
Notice that FOX Scores second to highest in the low-knowledge bracket and second to lowest in the hig-knowledge bracket. Second only to online discussion blogs – like this one!
Also, quoting someone verbatim, even in an highly-edited form, is nearly impossible to prosecute as slander.
You are right! (slaps own forehead) Sorry, NateT. Just shows you how little I care about tv these days.
You are right! (slaps own forehead) Sorry, NateT. Just shows you how little I know about tv these days.
Who said something about dinner with their families? That is entirely beside the point. And do you seriously suggest that Maher or Stewart are capable of providing serious analysis? I know some people get their news from Stewart, but they are pathetic. It´s like going to your massage therapist for brain surgery.
Another question for Jon Stewart: Given your previous justification for disproportionately targeting Republicans with your humor ("I think we consider those with power and influence targets and those without it, not"), when can we expect you to live up to the standards you have set for yourself vis-a-vis those currently in power in Washington?
Ah I think I get what you're saying. Democrats really haven't changed much at all. New York is the plantation, and these comedians are the dogs used to chase away intruders or run down slaves trying to escape. Man wish I had some animation software, and the skills to put that one together.
Obviously, Ben, you do not understand the training of seals. The key to they-who-used-to-be-funny is that they round up a crowd of trained seals, place them in the studio audience, fill them with angerfish, and then they rant. When it is time to do the "we are really funny" bit, a snide smile crosses the face and the seals erupt in the audience, because that's the cue that they'll soon be fed more angerfish.
It works that way for Stewart, Maher, Letterman, and "Joy" Behar on "The View."
Please, Ben, learn more about seal training.
way to be for free speech that you don't agree with, you inbred hick
Andrew, I don't really believe Cramers motivation was so much to humor Stewart, I believe it was his "guilt" and his liberal duty to be publicly flogged by one's own kind. Kind of like a penance.
What shield? See this is the point Bill and Jon are comedians but they WANT to be taken seriously and not be held accountable. Did you see the Cramer interview? Jon expected no he demanded journalistic integrity from an already groveling Cramer(who hosts a program for risk taking novice traders not grandmothers with 401k's) but none for himself. Rush can do more out of office than in it but to answer your question Yes Rush should run for office but not Hannity he's a B!@#ch boy sychophant.
And mocking people for typos is not hackneyed? Pot meet kettle, anyone? But then again that is hackneyed too. Oh noes! I bet you were a terror in middle school cutdown contests.
Camille Paglia is a truly brilliant and ideologically honest person and has been on conservative's radar for some time. You are, of course, correct about Stewart. I don't watch his program so as not to destroy what few remaining brain cells I can spare. But he is at least funny. Listen, all of their schtick is getting stale and being out of power suited them far more than having acquired it… ergo the 'new; attacks on Rush- wow, how clever!
[...] Shapiro points out that some liberal comedians aren’t that funny (cough, cough, Stewart, cough, [...]
I realized Stewart was a partisan hack just by watching him. Haven't ever read, watched, or listened to any of Carlson's stuff. I was introduced to Daily Show by a friend a few years ago, and it was amusing for all of a month; then it got predictable, and therefore stale. Stewart still has a few amusing moments from time to time, but even a broken clock is right twice a day…
You have a very good point.
When are conservatives going to start ridiculing the left's one trick ponies: the Smirk [Stewart], the Smarm [Colbert] and the Sneer [Maher]?
Excellent Points! Nothing more to say, Stewart and Maher are a new species of weasel who hide behind their "Comedian Credentials" to push their Post-Modernist, Marxist, Naturalist, agendas….and to think Maher apparently use to call himself a "Libertarian" . Where is Buckley when we need him. Buckley could splinter these two in a sound byte. Bravo Andrew…you did well for being corned by a gang of bullies in a dark ally….and nice article Ben
Please keep it up I love this site…best thing that has happened to Conservatives in a long time.
Terrific article, Ben. These idiot lib comics think they can insult with impunity and are insulated from ridicule because they hold that wus disclaimer sword in their belt, "Hey, it's a joke, lighten up, dude!" Maher, Daley, Lettermen… Inventing funny things to say somehow translates to unique and superior insight to the political machinations and what's really in the Constitution. Get a roomful of dunces, stand up a funny guy to rip apart conservatism, broadcast it on network TV and boom — Political Correctness is invented.
And 20 million listeners at any one time. You don't get paid over 200 mil per year in a 20 year contract unless you can deliver the people.
Stewart and Maher are garage sale quality comedians. They have a giggling group of idiots that laugh when the applause light goes on and manage to put their palms together when the house lights blink. It is the quality of Al Frankin's stint on Air America.
Full House got consistently high ratings for eight years. By your logic it must therefore be a brilliant sitcom that should have won a freakin' Peabody.
I can quickly become "unanonymous." I happen to be a woman, and I mentioned on one of the very first posts I made here, right after you kept trying to direct everyone to your blog, that your vids were creepy. I didn't say you WERE a pedophile, I said you came off like a pedophile. Big difference. Plus, everyone in interweb land can go and watch and make their own decision. I just know I would cross the street at night, if I saw you coming. Personal choice.
well, pseudonymous woman, your slanderous use of child rape to label those with whom you don't agree is still the epitome of cowardice and trivializes a horrible trauma that many children are subjected to.
Also, by your logic i can easily fabricate an assumption by the way you 'come off', that you're a syphilis ridden, desperately lonely cat lady living in a trailer outside of lubbock . this would be still without basis and doesn't pertain to the conversation, but when in rome. no difference. logical fact.
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