Larry Gelbart: An Appreciation
by Burt PrelutskyIt was a little over 30 years ago that I first laid eyes on the remarkable Larry Gelbart. The occasion was our high school’s 50th anniversary. I had been selected to host the celebration in the auditorium. It was also my duty to talk about what Fairfax High had been like when I was there during the 1950s. It was Larry’s job to report on the 1940s. As I recall, producer Mike Frankovich handled the 30s and singer Martha Tilton recalled the 1920s. Although I got to introduce Gelbart to the audience, we didn’t actually meet.
Several months later, in a weekly column I was then writing for the L.A. Times, I took exception to the constant trashing of TV. For all its obvious faults, I pointed out that over the years TV, not Broadway, books or the movies, was the place to find the best comedy in America. I went on to mention ten or twelve of the anonymous men most responsible for writing the funniest lines. Naturally, Larry Gelbart was one of the names on my list.
The next day, I got a phone call. It was Larry and he started out by apologizing. He said that he and his wife, Pat, had dreaded going to the Fairfax High bash, but that I had been very funny and they had had a terrific time. It seems he had meant to call me the very next day, but it had slipped his mind. Now he was calling to thank me for mentioning him in my article.
Oddly enough, I was anxious to get off the phone. Although I appreciate compliments as much as the next guy, I’m the guy who prefers them in writing. Even when I receive them over the phone, I feel like I’m blushing and have lost the power of speech. After being praised, just saying “Thank you” seems terribly lame, while trying to return the compliment seems awfully phony. But just before I was able to mumble my thanks and hang up, I heard him say, “I understand you sometimes write for TV. If you ever come up with an idea for a ‘MASH’ script, just shoot it over to me. I’m here at 20th.”
It had long been my wish to write comedy for TV, but I had not been able to break through, only managing to accumulate credits on “Dragnet” and “McMillan & Wife.” So, while I was greatly motivated, my problem was that I wasn’t a fan of “MASH.” I hadn’t liked the movie and the one time I had watched an episode, it just seemed like all those other lousy service comedies, like “Don’t Go Near the Water” and “Operation Petticoat,” that I had already come to loathe.
But, at the time nobody else was inviting me to write a comedy or anything else, so I sat down with my steno pad and prayed for a miracle. The miracle came in the form of an idea about an injured soldier showing up at the 4077th, claiming to be Jesus Christ.
“Quo Vadis, Captain Chandler?” led to seven additional MASH scripts, a shot at several other sitcoms and ultimately swung open the doors to writing TV movies.
Because I owed Gelbart a debt that I could never hope to re-pay, I was grateful when he called one day and asked for a favor. It seems the WGA was hosting a tribute to Larry that very evening and Mel Shavelson, who was scheduled to emcee the event, had taken ill. Larry wondered if I would agree to fill in.
Inasmuch as my responsibilities would be pretty much limited to pointing to people in the audience during the Q&A session, and in some cases repeating their questions into a microphone, I felt I was up to it, if just barely.
Larry was his usual droll and hilarious self. The most memorable moment, though, came during the intermission when Larry and I left the stage to sit with Pat in the front row. A young fellow came down the aisle and kneeled next to Larry. As expected, he began by saying what a great fan he was, and how, being a writer himself, he regarded Gelbart as a role model. Larry, far more adept at handling compliments than I because no doubt he had had so much more experience, was smiling and nodding graciously. The big surprise came when the young fan concluded his remarks by saying, “And that’s why I’m so excited to be re-writing ‘Rough Cut’.”
“Rough Cut,” you see, was a script Gelbart had been writing for Burt Reynolds and David Niven. Until that moment, he didn’t know that he’d been replaced by the producer.
So, forget all the stuff he wrote for the movies (“Tootsie,” “Oh, God!” “The Wrong Box”); the stage (“A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum,” “Mastergate,” “City of Angels”); and TV (“MASH,” “Your Show of Shows,” “Caesar’s Hour,” “Weapons of Mass Distraction,” “Barbarians at the Gate,”). Forget that at the age of 16, while still attending Fairfax High, he would go, still wearing his ROTC uniform, to write for “Duffy’s Tavern” and, later, Bob Hope on the radio. After all, anyone with the appropriate amount of God-given talent, wit and staying power, could do the very same thing for 65 years.
But the fact that he could listen to this pisher break the news to him that he had replaced him on a writing project and keep on smiling, shake his hand and wish him luck, tells you all you need to know about what sort of mensch Larry Gelbart was.







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I should've titled this: "From One Mensch to Another." — Beautiful tribute. Thank you, Burt.
Nowadays I don't like the politics much, but back then MASH was either very funny, or very non-funny in a way that made you think. The messages were to be expected, never seemed heavy-handed then, and it did one thing exceptionally well, it made the characters human.
Another identified decent person, good work Burt.
A wonderful eulogy for an extremely talented man, Mister Prelutsky. I bought Gelbart's autobiography, Laughing Matters, shortly after it came out (when I was admittedly of a somewhat more…liberal frame of mind. He wrote of such things as "Rough Cut" in the book in a manner which struck me as very similar to that of William Goldman, an Oscar-winning writer who saw his fair share of scripts re-written but spoke about it with candor and often with humor. I was sorely tempted to toss out the book because of my political differences with him, but maybe I'll keep it at least for a while longer.
Rest in Peace, Mister Gelbart.
Back in about '98 or '99 while I was still in high school and soon after we had gotten an internet connection at home, I was exploring online and had been looking up some of my favorite shows. I found a group online discussing MASH. Occasionally I would write something, nothing of much substance, but eventually I discovered Mr. Gelbart was contributing to the conversation on the site when he responded to something I had commented on. Once I determined it was really him, I was thrilled and appreciated that he took the time to respond to some small-town teenager. And he was so gracious in his responses to everyone on the site from what I recall. He definitely left his mark on the entertainment industry.
He will be missed.
My sister came to visit me and “City of Angels” was her first play. We both loved it and remark on it still to this day. RIP
As someone recently put it (perhaps on this very site), MASH didn't really target War so much as it targeted bureaucracy and idiotarianism in the military — the last place those two things were needed.
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I love it. Wonderful story.
Thanks for this.
Precisely. It's like saying a movie is an anti-war movie. All fine war movies are anti-war movies.
All the classic John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Robert Mitchum gung-ho films that usually get trashed for being war mongering are no such thing at all. They never state war is good, noble or glorious, but rather, a regrettable and sometimes unavoidable circumstance that must be gotten through, and these are men who lived through it and here is there story.
Liberals miss this point with unceasing regularity.
Films like MASH, Catch 22 and Slaughterhouse 5 were of course, anti-war, but they were anti-establishment as well. Unlike shows like Barney Miller which poked fun at the system, but didn't want to dismantle it, MASH (TV) actually derided all military with its jabs. Usually, good natured and not too severely.
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Also, MASH usually lost ratings when it got heavy handed with message.
We need a new "MASH" series for TV shown in Israel that will get them to re-evaluate their genocide programs against the Palestinians.
Mr. Prelutsky,
Class is as class does. And this applies to you, as well.
Open your eyes. See what is really going on.
Do you really think that if they wanted a "genocide" they wouldn't have already marched from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean?
Dr. Hooker, the one who wrote the original novel 'MASH', hated both the movie and the TV series, saying that they both tried to make the North Koreans heroes and the Americans who supported the war effort look like bums. That is from an interview that came out a few decades ago, so some of the details might be vague…
Burt, from one of your past postings, I knew you worked with him and I'm glad you paid tribute to Larry. Unfortunately, the truly talented are starting to leave us en masse. Indeed it was a golden age. RIP
I'm still wondering what any of this has to do with Larry Gelbert…
I first read the link on Larry Gelbert though BH some hours ago. To be selected at age 16 to write for television – says it all about his talent and what you testified about his character –
Whether those of you who liked MASH or didn't (and I am among the former; it gradually got its own character separate from the movie), I read years ago that one of the reasons for its longevity was that the cast and writers would spend **a lot** of time going over scripts – they would sometimes have marathon meetings – and that to me is one of the reasons it lasted a very long time by TV series standards (11 years?) Who among you didn't see the last episode which I believe still holds a record for audience share?
It's the writers and directors who ultimately are responsible for a show's success or demise. They don't get nearlyu the credit they deserve. The best actors in the world can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
And by coincidence I have the Jerome Roberts music from "A funny thing happened…"
It seems to me that Gelbart was a natural comedian who could see the humor in many things the world misses.
You want to hear an amazing true story?
I read the article, made the comment, read the other comments coming it, then realized it was an eulogy. I honestly didn't know Larry Gelbart had died, and while it seemed strange that Burt had wrote it, eh, he's a nice guy, he deserves it.
Precisely. It's like saying a movie is an anti-war movie. All fine war movies are anti-war movies.
All the classic John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Randolph Scott, Robert Mitchum gung-ho films that usually get trashed for being war mongering are no such thing at all. They never state war is good, noble or glorious, but rather, a regrettable and sometimes unavoidable circumstance that must be gotten through, and these are men who lived through it and here is there story.
Liberals miss this point with unceasing regularity.
Films like MASH, Catch 22 and Slaughterhouse 5 were of course, anti-war, but they were anti-establishment as well. Unlike shows like Barney Miller which poked fun at the system, but didn't want to dismantle it, MASH (TV) actually derided all military with its jabs. Usually, good-natured and not too severely.
But it was the humor, the Groucho-like delivery of Hawkeye, the stalwart soft spoken rebellion of Trapper John and later, intellectualized with BJ. The bumbling and lovable Henry Blake who so often played the Margaret Dumont role to the boys' Marx pranks. And Radar, a particularly unique character.
As long as they kept us laughing, we loved it, we tuned in. When it got too preachy about war being hell, and the horror of meatball surgery, yes, we know that already, when it got heavy handed with message, MASH usually lost viewers and ratings. With that said, some of my favorite moments on the show, and ones I would sit down to watch no matter what I was doing, were the episodes with Allan Arbus as Sidney. Heavy, but damn good television. Damn good.
Rest in Peace, Larry.
Nobody in Hollywood, I think, has ever said that war is an unqualified good. At best it's a necessary evil.
Which, of course, doesn't stop the oversensitive from thinking that war stories, however told, always romanticize war itself. Nowadays, when I re-read Slaughterhouse-Five, I want to slap Kurt's friend's idiot wife for thinking that Kurt was going to glamorize the experience of being a POW in Dresden the night it was bombed flat. Her glancing shot at Wayne and Frank Sinatra as bloodthirsty "dirty old men" doesn't endear me to her either.
My cousin Sid Dorfman was one of the first to acknowledge Larry's talent. He took him on as a writing partner on Duffy's Tavern. My cousin died several years ago. The writers from the Golden Age of television are passing too quickly, RIP.
Quick Gelbart story. Dateline: Los Angeles. Two years ago. The Writer's Guild is on strike. I was still technically a memeber of the WGA East at the time, but living out here in Los Angeles, so as far as the WGA was concered I was on the wrong coast, with no designated "strike captain" telling me where to go to do my picketing.
But the Guild's always done right by me — by providing minimum script fees, residuals, insurance, a pension, and other benefits I enjoy that thousands of brave, bygone writers once stuck their necks on the line to achieve… so even though I had effectively "fallen between the cracks" that fall, and could've sat the strike out if I wanted to — reading, watching TV, surfing the net — I decided I would contribute to the strike effort any way I could.
So I picked up the phone and called the Writer's Guild WEST, and explained my situation. The person on the other end said "Just a moment please, while I connect you with one of our strike cooridinators" — and Larry Gelbart picked up the phone!
Now, I know it was Gelbart because he introduced himself — and I think I may've stammered something deathless and Shakespearean like, "Hi, I- I've been waiting my whole life to talk to you." — which was essentially the truth. Gelbart was and remains a legend in our business: Riotously funny, thoroughly professional, and a man of real integrity — as evidenced by the fact that here he was at the age of 79 ANSWERING THE GODDAMN PHONE AT THE WRITERS' GUILD!
Anyway, we spoke for all of four minutes, and he couldn't have been more gracious or more helpful (although all he told me to do was go down to any studio being picketed, present my Guild I.D. to the strike captain there, grab a sign, and join the fray. So I did…)
Two years on we are still toting up our wins and losses from that strike, but for me it was a net win… if only for my close encounter with Gelbart.
Yeah, what's wrong with you RickyReal? Don't you know this site is for people to agree with each other and give each other points depending on how much they agree with each other?
I first read the link on Larry Gelbert through BH some hours ago. To be selected at age 16 to write for television – says it all about his talent and what you testified about his character –
Whether those of you who liked MASH or didn't (and I am among the former; it gradually got its own character separate from the movie), I read years ago that one of the reasons for its longevity was that the cast and writers would spend **a lot** of time going over scripts – they would sometimes have marathon meetings – and that to me is one of the reasons it lasted a very long time by TV series standards (11 years?) Who among you didn't see the last episode which I believe still holds a record for audience share?
It's the writers and directors who ultimately are responsible for a show's success or demise. They don't get nearly the credit they deserve. The best actors in the world can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
And by coincidence I have the Jerome Roberts music from "A funny thing happened…"
It seems to me that Gelbart was a natural comedian who could see the humor in many things the world misses.
In many ways TV created the society we have. Larry Gelbart was part of the writing team on Your Show of Shows in the 50's that included Mel Brooks, Neil Simon and Carl Reiner. His contribution to who and what we are cannot be minimized
Wow! Gelbert was the writer for The Wrong Box! One of my favorites. I never made the connection. That's a great feather for anyone's cap.
Minus 1 due to the fact that I was looking up "putz" in the dictionary and your photo was there. Grow up and find a different blog to peddle your pap.
Hey, Ricky!
You're so lame, you blow my mind,
hey, Ricky!
Thanks for this blog entry. We can't let this man die along with his body. We have to keep him alive if TV is to have any future. Gelbart is probably the best TV writer to have ever lived, In my opinion. The smart storylines and good nature in the messages are very hard to find today. It's depressing when you get into comparisons between Gelbart and today's showrunners. What I noticed first about Gelbarts writing is the vaudeville/radio talent. The dialogue is noticeably advanced, and character speech patterns are quick and witty– never losing the essence of the character. You get a sense that Gelbart wrote these characters while the Marx Bros. were whispering to his psyche. Should he have let Alda take the reins so much? Maybe, maybe not. But I think Gelbart brought it all together, no matter who was writing or directing episodes. There's an intelligence on the page that Gelbart and writers like Burt offered us back in the 70's and 80's. Now it's mostly reality and obscene cartoons catering to subjects of homosexuality and modern pop culture. Some of the cliche's used in M*A*S*H have all but died and gone. One of my favorites; "Kindness don't feed the bulldog". When was the last time we've seen a young TV writer use such adages? Instead it's 'pop the weasel' or 'Shizzle my nizzle'. I'm a multiple award-winning writer, yet do not work for TV. It's a sad and spiteful industry that I have successfully avoided without regret. And the worse TV writing gets, the more I fill my shelves with unproduced, unshopped, award-winning dramas and comedy. One day, if the planets align again, I might blow the dust off and send them out.
The world deserves another Gelbart and all his brilliance. I am a bit disappointed to learn Gelbart took part in the WGA strike, though. It is almost sacrilegious. The kind of money Gelbart made in his career as a executive producer, and where he came from does not speak WGA Strike. That strike was about entitlements over substance. If the WGA writers want more money for their work, than maybe they should write their own work or study older styles so we;'re not stuck with oversexed soap operas and carbon copy cop dramas. I can find no good reason why a bad writer should care about entitlements. And I don't know why, after looking at Gelbart's career, he would embrace and support such a slew of bad writers currently filling the guild.
I wonder what Larry thinks of that strike now looking down from the heavens. Is it possible that Gelbart might have misread the WGA strike for a well needed revolution in the TV industry (which is now the big box business)? Maybe the problem was that Networks are creating television shows and reality experiments when they should just focus on what they do best– Making refrigerators and jet engines.
There is Gelbart talent out there, but Hollywood has to change in order for us to find it.
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