Old School Vs. No Class
by Burt PrelutskyWhen I read that Jack Elam had died at the age of 82, I couldn’t believe it. Okay, I believed it. But I didn’t like it. The world can ill-afford to lose the likes of Jack.
I got to know Jack back in the 70s when we both played in a Wednesday night poker game. What I remember best was how eerie it was sitting across the table from Jack and that wild left eye of his, trying to figure out if he was looking at me or at three other guys.
A remarkable thing about the man was that he brought a family-sized thermos bottle to every game. It was filled with bourbon. You could always tell when we were playing our last hand because Jack would just be pouring out the last drop. It wasn’t just in front of the camera that his timing was impeccable. To Jack’s credit, whatever it might have been doing to his liver, the booze never seemed to affect his behavior. Even after five hours, you would have thought he’d been lapping up spring water.
He was a terrific poker player. But he really made his reputation playing liar’s poker on movie and TV sets. He was legendary at the game. To hear his fellow actors describe it, I suspect with some exaggeration, he made more dough that way than by acting. And, best of all, he didn’t have to pay an agent’s commission on his winnings.
The Wednesday game consisted mainly of actors and myself. Regulars included Dick and Vince Van Patten, Don Galloway, Roger Price, Ned Wertimer and Ronny Cox, and, on occasion, Allan Miller, Gene Troobnik and Lee Majors.
The game took place at Wertimer’s Studio City condo. Specifically, it took place on his second story loft. It was in that small space that the poker table was wedged. As a result, only two players had easy access to the stairs if they needed to use the ground floor facilities. If any of the other five players needed to heed the call of nature, two or three players had to get up and move their chairs and themselves. I mention the physical set-up because it played such an essential role in my most cherished memory of the dearly departed.
The year, I believe, was 1974. We had a new guy in the game that evening. His name was Richard Dreyfuss. He had made a few movies already, most notably “The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz” and “American Graffiti.” It happened, luckily for him, that he had one of the two seats with easy access to the stairway, whereas Jack was wedged into one of the corners.
Ours was not a big game, you should understand. In their game, the likes of Steve Martin and Danny Melnick played for thousands. We played for slightly lower stakes. If you had a truly terrible night, you might lose two hundred bucks.
We were about an hour and a half into the game when, suddenly, Mr. Dreyfuss announced, “That’s it, gentlemen.” He thereupon wrote out a check for about sixty dollars, stood up, brushed his hands together like a Vegas dealer going on a break, and skipped down the stairs.
I looked across the table at Jack. He looked like a cartoon character. A very angry cartoon character. I had never seen such disgust and outrage in a face before. Veins were popping out of his neck in places where veins don’t usually exist. His face had gone crimson. I was surprised not to see smoke shooting out of his nose and ears. At the same time, he was moving his mouth, but no actual words were coming out. Only noises and a little bit of spittle.
When we heard the sound of the door being closed downstairs, it seemed to act as a release on Jack. A flood of indescribable profanity came gushing forth. It was as if Vesuvius had erupted, and instead of lava, obscenities flowed out over the countryside.
Although the spirit of the words was clear enough, only some of them were actually intelligible. It seems that Elam and Dreyfuss had the same agent; that Dreyfuss was presently on hiatus from “Jaws” while Steven Spielberg and his associates got the kinks out of their mechanical shark; that Dreyfuss was getting paid $250,000 for the movie; and that he had already signed to star in his next one for a cool million.
The fact that a wealthy young man was leaving a game short-handed because he was losing sixty dollars was an offense to everything Jack held sacred. If it had been a western, Elam would have gunned him down, and the jury would have carried Jack out of the courtroom on their shoulders. But, unfortunately, it was real life. Still, if Richard had had to get by Jack to leave the game, I guarantee he’d never have reached those stairs alive.
By this time, I’m sure that somewhere Jack is playing liar’s poker for halos, harps and wings, and that St. Peter is running around in his skivvies, saying, “I was so sure he was bluffing.”







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I was about 5 when i saw -Once Upon A Time in the West-
The first scene, Jack Elam and that fly. How the hell did they get that shot?
Great story, thanks. Tho’ I seriously doubt that Dreyfuss picked up a quarter million for Jaws, or a million for his next movie, Close Encounters. He famously made $480 bucks a week on American Grafitti, his only role of any commercial note before the film. And one of the biggest arguments Spielberg and Benchley had about the movie was that the latter wanted to cast movie stars, and Steven didn’t.
Steven won. The cast came cheaply.
But Dreyfuss is still a wanker for walking away from the table.
Harley, Dreyfuss is just a wanker, period, whether he made a quarter mil or not.
Jack – RIP, my friend. You will be in our heart for as long as there are movies.
Didn’t Mr. Elam start out as an accountant to actors who was talked into acting by his actor clients ?
[...] Mitchell wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptHe was a terrific poker player. But he really made his reputation playing liar’s poker on movie and TV sets. He was legendary at the game. To hear his fellow actors describe it, I suspect with some exaggeration, he made more dough that … [...]
I take it Mr Dreyfus wasn’t invited back?
I heard that Johnny Carson and Steve Martin were in a regular poker group – it’d be interesting to know how many informal groups there were/are around TinselTown…
The only memorable character in a rather forgettable movie (Cannonball Run) was Jack Elam playing the mad Dr (who got to examine Farrah Fawcett!)
There are certain character actors that just seem to be able to steal any scene in which they appear – Eric Blore, Edward Everett Horton and without a doubt – Jack Elam. That wanderinng eye was something you just could not take your own eyes off. Whether playing a menacing western thug or a good-natured western buffoon, the likes of Elam are unlikely to be seen again soon. Richard Dreyfuss, not so much. (Side note – Dick Van Patten is one of the nicest guys in Hollywood. I had the opportunity to meet him when I did a brief stint as a booker (segment producer) for a local comedy/talk show in L.A. Had a kind word for everyone, great stories, and, although we provided a towncar for our guests, preferred to drive in from the valley himself.)
Being a young guy I mostly remember him from The Cannonball Run movies(guilty pleasures). He was fun to watch in those movies.
I now have another reason to dislike Richard Dreyfuss. What a tool.
I mentioned Burt Kennedy’s “Hollywood Trail Boss” in the “War Wagon” thread.
Mr. Kennedy had some good Jack Elam stories in the book. It mentioned that Jack Elam nearly kicked Burt Lancaster’s butt on a film set for making fun of Elam’s wayward eye to a child.
There were a couple other amusing Elam anecdotes as well as mention of his poker prowess.
I just loved Jack Elam, especially in the John Wayne movies he did. I know this will probably sound blasphemous, but I really loved that stupid sitcom he did with Loni Anderson, Easy Street I think it was. It also had James Cromwell I believe.
Jack Elam died October 20, 2003.
Whenever I channel surf and Jack Elam’s face appears, that is the channel I’m watching. One of the best characters in the movies ever.
Ok, I clearly am ignorant of poker etiquette, but why is it bad form to leave when you’ve lost your limit? Is it because he was presumably rich and could have lost more? Mind you, I’m the type that beats myself up after losing $20 on quarter slots, but why would leaving a poker game early be justifiable cause for homicide by an angry alcoholic?
I remember him from watching “Support Your Local Gunfighter!” and “Support Your Local Sheriff!” as a kid (and “Cat Ballou,” but after growing up and finding out more about Hanoi Jane I can’t bear to watch it any more).
A couple of months I introduced my young boys to the “Support” movies, they loved them as much as I did and I think that the scenes with Jack were their favorite parts.
I didn’t know that he was in “Once Upon a Time in the West.” Someone recently told me that I needed to watch that. I was putting in in my Netflix que after reading some of the comments here and discovered that it was directed by Sergio Leone. Now I have two reasons to be excited to see it.
My favorite memory of Elam was when our local cable company held an open house sort of affair to draw in more subscribers, this was just when Playboy TV launched their channel, Jack was there as were a few playmates. There was an opportunity to get autographs and the line to get Jack elams autograph wound around the floor and out the door around the building. You could however if you so chose, walk right up to the Playmates and get their autograph, no line at all.
I was so sad to hear of Jack’s passing. I remember working with him back in the late 50’s, early 60’s. We did an episode of a show called “Gunslinger”. It starred a young man named Tony Young. I was about 6 or 7 years old at the time and Jack played my father. He was an outlaw who had stashed money in his little girls teddy bear. When he came back to get it, ofcourse justice prevailed and he was shot on the old backlot at MGM! I have vivid memories of Jack because he was so kind to me, a child at the time. I remember him making me laugh when I was afraid of the gunshots. I remember being afraid of him at first because of his off-set eye, but he came over and stooped down to my level and showed me the funny things he could do with it. I laughed and realized that he was “OK”. He explained to me that in the scene he had to be mean but when it was over we could laugh again. It made all the difference in the world to a 6 year old child. He truly was one of a kind and I am so grateful to have a lasting memory of him.
I just wanted to stop by to confirm that Jack did start out as an accountant before devoting his professional life to playing no-accounts. I originally wrote this piece back in October, 2003, when Jack passed away at the age of 84. But I brought it back for Big Hollywood, where, as I expected, the readers are finally giving him the send-off he deserved.
Regards, Burt
I knew he had died several years back. Man, I grew up watching movies with Jack Elam in them – I’m 51 – and he could be hilariously funny or downright evil. Loved the guy’s work.
Thanks for sharing the article with us Mr. Prelutsky.
Thanks to everybody else for giving me a list of movies to download.
RIP Mr. Elam. He played some of my favorite characters from when I’d visit my grandparents and we’d watch westerns with my grandfather.
maatkare,
I’ve only played a few small-stakes poker with friends. The general unspoken rule for is you go to your limit, then fold and opt out for the rest of the night, but you stick around and still BS with the other guys. Only exemption for this is legitimate appointments (like say, the game or series of games goes until 3 am and you have to be at the doctor or work at 8am), or your wife or girlfriend starts calling non-stop. What Dreyfuss did was bad form and disrespectful to the other players.
Ranba Ral: You’re right about the etiquette, but there was no reason for Dreyfuss to leave the game awhen he was behind a mere $60. Whether the earlier reader believes it or not, Elam had the same agent as Dreyfuss and knew that Dreyfuss was making $250,000 for “Jaws” and $1,000,000 for “Close Encounters.” I’m sure it was Dreyfuss’s ego, not his wallet, that couldn’t take losing.
Regards, Burt
Mr. Prelutsky,
Totally agreed on the $60. We had slightly higher limits than that at our amateur night get-togethers. I think the most anyone lost was $250. It ended up near a wash in the long run anyway, since we all sucked equally badly. I think all but one of us worked retail at the time, and the other guy worked at a helpdesk. Not exactly mucho-bucks floating around there.
But then, for us, the gambling wasn’t really the point anyway.
“That might explain “that wild left eye.””
Actually, a childhood fight left him blind in the eye, so nerve damage probably has to do with it.
Mr. Dreyfuss was a “concientious objector” during the Vietnam War era. While those of you on the left will say so what those of us on the right call these types cowards. He didn’t have the cojones to go to war for his country and he didn’t have the cojones to stay in the poker game. He’s just another Hollywood di–less wonder! I calls em like I sees em.
Mr Elam on the other hand sounds like a class act and a straight shooter. I’ll take him wild eye and all over light on his feet Dreyfuss anytime.
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