Hate Speech Resides on the Left
by Brian JenningsI thought conservatives were the only group that was guilty of hate speech until I heard Jon Stewart’s rant on Rush Limbaugh. But, that was preceded by New York Governor David Paterson. And, that was preceded by David Letterman. Limbaugh is a tough football loving brute, but even three libs throwing illegal chop blocks can’t take Rush down. Odd how they accuse us of hate speech when in fact they are guilty three times this week. Three strikes and you’re out!
First, Letterman said Rush was too smart to believe what he says and should be the head of the Republican Party because he’s tubby. Second, Governor Paterson bashes Rush for announcing his intention to sell his Fifth Avenue condo because of high taxes and being audited ad nauseum. But, those incidents were mild compared to the idiotic rant by pseudo-comedian Jon Stewart who tells Rush to “get the fxxx out of here.” Stewart didn’t stop at that: “For years, for years, for years, New Yorkers have done everything in our power to get this guy to leave town. We knew he was into drugs, so we cleaned up Times Square. We even opened up a Disney store in the very place he would normally go to buy drugs.” The reference was Rush’s dependence on pain killers which he openly admitted on his show facing his problem honestly and ultimately winning his battle. But Stewart let his anger get the best of him and the hate spewed forth declaring everyone who smokes a cigar is a “douchebag.” And, then….”We outlawed murder, figuring he was a guy with a taste for it.”
I wonder how many times Stewart has really listened to Limbaugh? For liberals, it’s much easier to not listen and engage in criticism. The odd thing here is that Rush’s ratings are #1 in New York City on WABC radio. In fact, his ratings are the envy of the left. They can’t figure it out. Why would anyone want to listen to a “douchebag?” Well, I guess millions of us are “douchebags.” I’m a proud “douchebag” and I’m happy to say I am a proud, loud listener of Rush Limbaugh!
This deep hatred of the right began years ago when we stopped such things as “free health care.” Let me think…who pays for free health care? The hate increased when Bill Clinton was blown away by Monica…oh sorry. It increased when GW defeated Al (make me a billionaire global warming) Gore. But, the left became incredulous when GW defeated John Kerry and won a second term. They couldn’t believe it. So, they formed left-wing smear groups such as Media Matters to charge conservative media personalities with hate speech every chance they could.
What ever happened to comedians who used politics but avoided political commentary?. Today, the pseudo-comedians couldn’t exist without letting their bias bleed through.
It boils down to this. Jon Stewart is jealous of Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh makes more money and has a much more loyal audience. And, Rush has had 21 years of national success. Jon Stewart is a comparative lightweight who has to mock someone with hate to get noticed. Well, he did get noticed. We noticed his hate speech and won’t forget it next time the left accuses our side of it. Can’t they rest it? They won! But, they won’t rest until they have destroyed conservative thought in America because they simply know best.
Well, bring it on David. Bring it on Governor. Bring it on Stewart. Every time you whine about Rush, his ratings go up. We know who the real winner is.
Brian Jennings is author of Censorship: The Threat to Silence Talk Radio which will be published by Simon & Schuster May 5th. It is available now online at Amazon.







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Great job Brian—I'm sharing this one. And thanks for having the stomach to watch Stewart—-I sure can't. I don't want to let his tirades ruin my love for "Big Daddy," the only movie Adam Sandler was foolish enough to put in JS (sans his BS, so he is tolerable).
I don't think Stewart's rant is funny or clever per se, but if it were put into a full length motion picture together with the incoherent rants of Sally Fields and Celine Dion and the vitriol of Olberman and The Dixie Chicks etc. etc. etc., then I think that would be hilarious.
The Maha Rushie has been on a roll lately, ever since that CPAC barnburner speech. I love him. I quit watching Stewart years ago. Too smug for me. If he was as smart as he thinks he is, he'd devote three hours a day to El Rushbo. Maybe he'd learn something.
Taking out-of-context videos and speeches, adding his own commentary, smirking, and spouting four letter words while talking over anyone who disagrees with him. Yeah, that's humor all right. I finally figured out that Jon Stewart is just an anorexic Michael Moore with a shave and a better tailor. I watch each equally often.
Thanks for the column. The left disgust me with their hypocrisy on the matter of hate speech. As conservatives, we stand up for our beliefs, are continuously called hate-mongers and racist bigots; all the while the leftists and extreme liberals scatter their hate all in the name of "free speech" while trying to shut down our free speech. When sanity is reclaimed in this country, I hope these people are exposed for what they really are: anti-freedom, anti-rights, and opposed to free though.
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Right on!! Having that on the internet and playing it on Hannity, Limbaugh, whatever, would not only be hilarious it would put their insanity and hypocrisy on display.
I tell my college age daughter this all the time. Jon Stewart is a comedian, not a news man. He takes out of context stories and makes jokes about them. The Ozombies in the audience, both studio and tv viewers, take his show as legitimate news. Jon is up front about the fact that it's satire but like all good propaganda -" If you say it enough it becomes the truth". Most colleges or high schools don't teach kids enough about civics or economics to know the difference between satire, lies and truth.
What I don't get about these conservative hating, white male hating, Christian hating, Bush hating, etc 'celebs' is … don't they see that they are potentially alienating half of their potential audience …. And why the hell would anyone want to sit and listen to this tripe in the audience (even if you were a turbo liberal)? There is no thought provoking content in these comments/rants or in the comments/rants of the other super intellectual comedian, Mr Maher. In addition, there is no humor.
Wiping the milk I just blew out of my nose from explosive laughter ~ Please, you're kidding right? This is the kind of hyperbole that makes us conservatives hard to stomach on occasion. Your examples of "hate speech" by Stewart are laughable. So much so, its comparable to the silliness that erupts when people call behavior racist thats clearly not. I've heard Rush say any number of things far more objectionable than your quotes from Stewart. Its a silly rant.
True, that.
Jon Stewart has as much as admitted he's a socialist, so his rant doesn't surprise me. Of course he's jealous, he has to lie and smear people in order to get a laugh; Limbaugh simply tells it like it is, and we laugh because of the insanity of it all.
I hate Colbert, too. What a jerk.
So Rush doesn't deserve a second chance Jon? You of all people should admire a man who overcame obstacles and has gained a bigger audience than before.
Stewart and Colbert are both in the class of Non-Funny comedians. Also in that class are most of the cast of SNL, Margaret Cho, Rosie Odonnell, Joy Behar, etc….
The only hate speech I have heard Rush say is Henry Waxman has large nostrils. He calls Ted Kennedy the swimmer. Begala is the forehead. Is that really hate speech or is it just over-sensitive people getting their feelings hurt?
Well, Jon certainly out did himself. I can almost see the spittle spraying from his mouth. Perhaps it's time to call in an exorcist.
Did you hear Rush's commentary about The Individual being the largest minority? He hit it out of the park and it hasn't come down yet. These morons should listen to that as they accept Andrew Klavan's challenge
And all the while they rant and rave and try to take Rush down let's not forget WHY they are doing it: Rush Limbaugh gave one of the greatest speeches this nation has ever heard. Bar None. It is what he said and the way he said it in the speech that launched this latest attack on Rush Limbaugh. The Nation should hear that speech as often as there is a hate rant against Rush by the likes of Stewart, Colbert, Begala,Carville( that big eared grinning Nosfratu!) and gang. Enough of their idiocy already. It is bad enough there is absolutely nothing on television that is worth watching or listening to regarding political commentary from the left. Bill Mahar is an idiot and unfunny. Jon Stewart is famous only in his own mind. I wonder how his sponsors feel about that rant because I know it offended me. As a consumer I make notations of sponsors of offensive shows and let them know I will not buy their products. They all need to have THEIR shows cancelled rather than trying to take down a man who excels at what he does. Especially when they DO NOT!)
It's bad enough that the left very often can't make a coherent argument to defend their positions because if they did, they would have to expose the inherent weaknesses of their ideas, but then they have to try to puff up their ideas and thoughts by endless ad hominem attacks and straw man debates. PoliticalSeason upthread just set up one of the usual defenses/attacks, the "… but your side does it too" defense with absolutely no supporting examples to flesh out his argument at all.
This is what they're reduced to and this is why they should be losing except that we've ceded the classroom to them, and many of our children are no longer taught to think, merely to digest and feel good about themselves. That makes it very hard to go against what is presented as popular and seen everywhere as what should be done for the right reasons with the best intentions.
Its not a defense of Stewart nor an attack on Rush that I'm making. I'm attacking what I think is a ridiculous argument by Jennings calling a few lame quotes critical of Rush "hate speech". Rush engages in vigorous critiques of his own daily, certainly every bit the same in tone as Stewart's or stronger. If you listen to Rush you know this to be true, I don't need a bunch of supporting "evidence". Rush's stock in trade is his robust and vigorous commentary. Why play this game that Rush is some sort of mealy mouthed radio peacenik?
I positively detest arguments of this sort that amount to bald faced lies in an attempt to push forward the conservative viewpoint and I find them counterproductive. We want to decry the left's hyperbole and then we practice our own. The quotes Jennings cites are not "hate speech" directed at Rush, its simply overkill to label them that way. Rush directs withering verbal fire at liberals and whoever else he likes. Its not hate speech either. The only difference between the two is one you agree with and one you don't. That would have been the honest point for Jennings to make.
Yeah, saying someone has a "taste for murder" isn't hate speech … This from the side who believes the word "tax cut" is hate speech because it's a "code word."
I'm starting to think this isn't jealousy but frustration. Rush is someone they can't take down, they can't control, thus a serious threat. And the clock is ticking, even they know they can't cover for Barry and friends forever. Bush is wisely staying silent so that material is getting stale, now they've found substituting Rush hasn't worked. So, Stewart is following the liberal rulebook, when something doesn't work, do it again twice as large and twice as loud!
Loved the "Get Out!" line, delivered after Rush announced we was already going. Liberal standard, soon Stewart will declare he forced Rush out!
How can you tell when Jon Stewart's very serious about something? When he uses the F word, as he did about Rush and with Cramer. It's like watching an inarticulate pre-teen use that word in a 'test the waters' sort of way to demonstrate how adult he is but in fact actually looks like a kid trying to be an adult. Except that Jon Stewart is an actual adult using childish tactics to appear serious and adult and failing at both. Some of my deep lib friends watch his show as their only source of news – frightening. It's amusing in a truly ironic and despairing way to watch Stewart do his strident best to become for the left what he accuses Limbaugh of being for the right. He's too consumed by hatenvy to even grasp this irony. With Obama on his bloody-kneed mea culpa tour of Europe and Stewart as his wannabe spokesperson, this is going to be a tough 4 years.
You sure he calls Ted Kennedy "the swimmer?" I thought that was Bob Grant's line. It's a good one, too.
If you've heard so many examples perhaps you'd care to share a few?
I don't know why people watch this guy, every time I have seen him he commits the cardinal sin of comedians. HE JUST ISN'T FUNNY! It is all bad jokes and middle school face making. HE JUST ISN'T FUNNY.
The author was trying to make a point, which I think most of us got. "Get the f–k out of New York" isn't exactly love speech. But the real point is that we're simply tired of being accused of hate speech when the left is, if anything, more experienced and has a whole lot more people and places to spew it. If you don't like the words "hate speech" as being too extreme, how about "mean-spirited?" The left has been calling us that for decades, usually just before saying that all us fascist pigs should die.
The author was not suggesting that the left has a monopoly on hateful speech, he was suggesting that the left should stop its faux indignation every time a conservative makes a comment they don't like. And please allow some of us to think that even if Stewart's routines aren't hate speech, they're still not funny.
After reviewing your blog (http://www.politicalseason.blogspot.com/ ) and reading the About Us (what, don't conservatives get to do background checks?), I'm not sure which side of the con/lib duo is actually posting here. Even with the benefit of the doubt that you're the conservative, from reading the posts there I must conclude you are to conservatism as McCain is to Reagan.
Name one. Name even one time Rush has used profanity.
And nice try following the lefty interloper playbook, as in "us conservatives", but pushed your luck with the milk through the nose bit.
I've listened to Rush on and off over the years and while he is undeniably a master of his craft, he's a pompous, classless ass. I remember when he used to take shots at Chelsea Clinton, and when he was arguably at his least physically attractive himself his major argument against feminists was that they were ugly. Then his more recent potshot accusing Michael J. Fox of exaggerating his Parkinsons. Plus last week's recent comment on Gordon Brown's "anal poisoning." All power to him as an entrepreneur, but you can have him.
I quit watching Stewart and Letterman long ago…
The author was trying to make a point, which I think most of us got. "Get the f–k out of New York" isn't exactly love speech. But the real point is that we're simply tired of being accused of hate speech when the left is, if anything, more experienced and has a whole lot more people and places to spew it. If you don't like the words "hate speech" as being too extreme, how about "mean-spirited?" The left has been calling us that for decades, usually just before saying that all us fascist pigs should die.
Ahh, there it is, the "you're not a real conservative" argument. If I don't subscribe to whatever the rabid conservative position of the hour, I'm not a conservative and therefore unqualified to comment. Or in other words, since I'm not participating in the echo chamber exercise on this particular topic, since I don't agree with Jennings silly rhetorical argument, you needn't address the cogent point I'm making.
Irrespective of your judgment as to my conservative bonafides, it doesn't change my point at all, which is that Jennings is silly and engaging in hyperbole to call Stewart's comedic opinions "hate speech". It is the same sort of hysteria conservatives accuse the left of engaging in all the time. Its absurd when the left does it and I find it even more so when conservatives (who are supposed to be the grownups) do it.
Jennings started it with this silly "hate speech" screech, and when I point out the highly robust commentary of Rush, people respond as if Rush talks the language of sweetness and light, when in fact he is a gatling gun of rhetorical conservative firepower and is intentionally provocative. The difference? This crowd agrees with Rush, not Stewart and thats ALL the difference. "hate speech" is not a relevant issue at all.
The author was not suggesting that the left has a monopoly on hateful speech, he was suggesting that the left should stop its faux indignation every time a conservative makes a comment they don't like. And please allow some of us to think that even if Stewart's routines aren't hate speech, they're still not funny.
I agree, but you instantly lose credibility by using "proceeded" instead of "preceded". Mind your grammar.
Dude, are you surprised? Obama has openly admitted he is a socialist and we still have people on the left rolling their eyes, like Bill Maher, and asking "Do you _really_ believe he's a socialist? Seriously? You really believe that nonsense?"
It's like fact doesn't matter to these people. I saw the "interview" Maher did with Joe the Plumber, besides the "do you REALLY believe he's a socialist" nonsense he kept repeating the nonsense Obama spewed about only raising taxes "on the rich" from "36 to 39 percent". If it comes from a Democrat these people just take it as read, don't bother thinking about it or fact-checking it or anything. They just repeat it then go on another rant about how Republicans don't understand the economy, Republicans don't understand 'the working man', and on and on and on. They're delusional.
I think that Carville and Waxman are a lab experiment that went horribly awry. As to a comparison of douchebags, Stewart's vinegar soured a long time ago. Rush remains one of the few beacons of light in this morass of media madness. And Stewart is still on Comedy Central – thats some news organization.
Once again, Stewart proves how much of an arseclown he is. He won't ever bother to mention that Rush hasn't lived in New York since '97, or that he's been audited every year for twelve years by New York 'cause they're trying to get more money out of him. Let Stewart flap his lips all he wants; New York will collapse on itself when Rush and others like him stop spending money there.
As for me personally, I'm still pissed about the stupid remark Stewart made against the Boy Scouts on SNL in 2000, back when there was the initial hellraising about the BSA not allowing homosexuals in the organization. (Last three lines of the Scout Oath: I will keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and MORALLY STRAIGHT. My emphasis). Stewart's joke was that the BSA was already the gayest organization there was.
If he ever gets within swinging distance of me, he's going down for that one.
That was when Maher lost me: not when his politics diverged from mine, but when he stopped being funny. 1000 variations of "Bush is dumb" jokes just don't cut it.
How do you regard it when Rush says something offensive?
Is it hate speech if it's true? Have you seen Waxmen's nostrils or Begala's forhead? If Ted Kennedy's not a swimmer then how did he survive Chappaquidick?
Is it hate speech if it's true? Have you seen Waxmen's nostrils or Begala's forhead? If Ted Kennedy's not a swimmer then how did he survive Chappaquidick?
"If I don't subscribe to whatever the rabid conservative position of the hour, I'm not a conservative and therefore unqualified to comment."
Or, I have simply stated my evaluation of what you consider your conservatism.
While commenting on rhetorical devices from "bald faced lies" to hyperbole, you are quick to label me with positions I have not taken, ascribing unstated views based on your own personal inference. As you have said, "We want to decry the left's hyperbole and then we practice our own." True words, indeed.
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Sorry, but the jokes about the neckerchiefs and jamborees as examples of the gayitude made me laugh.
Preceded, not proceeded. To precede means to come before, evident by your context, while proceed means to continue on a course of action or direction. "We could not proceed because the leftards preceded us and blocked our way." Any questions?
Otherwise, excellent sentiments. I agree wholeheartedly. Every leftard is envious of Rush because he's a self-made success story. Something none of them are or ever will be.
As a former Boy Scout myself, I can tell you with quite a bit of certainty that despite the whole dressing-small-armies-of-adolescent-boys-in-neckerchiefs-and-teaching-them-to-sew thing; the BSA is, in fact, only the SECOND gayest organization there ever was…
…for, you see, I am ALSO a former Altar Boy
Celine Dion and the Dixie Chicks could provide the soundtrack to the movie. On second thought, that would KILL the movie.
Rush has often said that when the Left is out of power, they're hysterical. When they're in power, they're dangerous. They're VERY dangerous now, and NOT in a good way. Humor is one of the few weapons we have in our arsenal as conservatives, and Rush's humor is up there with the best of them, as illustrated by his parodies of Obama, Bawney Fwank, Algore, et. al.
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I thought you were the big champion of gay rights so I would guess your saying the Boy Scouts and Alter Boys are great otherwise your little crack shows the normal hypocrisy of the left, you can say something is gay to insult things conservatives like but when a conservatives call something gay it's hate speech…oh well at least we can be grateful you didn't give us another of your condescending lectures
I saw Fox giving testimony before Congress, jerking all over the place. Before and after, on talk shows, giving interviews, and acting, nothing to hardly a twitch in comparison. Soon as I saw him before Congress, first thought, he didn't take his meds.
Gordon Brown, came here, got brushed off and treated insultingly for his position. G20, all happy smiles and laughs for his new best buddy. Prime example of bending over and grabbing the ankles.
He's got a point, when was the last time you saw a beautiful feminazi?
Sure he's no William F. Buckley Jr., but he never claimed to be nor do his fans want him to be one, if such was even possible. He's certainly no Maher or Stewart, which both sides agree is a good thing.
Okay, I can see both a comma and a string of periods, so I know he knows where those keys are…
Oh wait, he mentions Alter Boys. That was the little cross-dressing Catholic-bashing group from San Francisco, did a few plays on college campuses around 1987, right?
Okay, I can see both a comma and a string of periods, so I know he knows where those keys are…
Oh wait, he mentions Alter Boys. That was the little cross-dressing Catholic-bashing group from San Francisco, did a few plays on college campuses around 1987, right?
Usually as humorous but there are some groaners. The difference in deliveries matters, while Rush tends to use a flamethrower to start a BBQ, the libs like to airdrop napalm. Makes it easy to spot who wants to be funny and who wants to inflict casualties. And who likes their steak without excessive carbonization.
Does anyone even watch Stewart? I was sucked into watching Colbert… I thought he might actually be middle of the road, perhaps a little conservative…but lately, I don't know. I used to think his over the top acting like a jerk conservative might be his way of covering up the fact that he is… he does take some swipes at liberals.
Fool me once…
I am so ready to delve into the personal lives of stewart, olbermann, tina fey, behar, o'donnell, etc……how much would a PI cost?…..I'd be willing to chip in, how about you?
What's funny about the Left is that they constantly deny the very thing they affirm.
They accused the Right of being hateful, but yet we see the most hateful comments coming from the Left. They claim the Right is against free speech, yet we see attempt after attempt to limit free speech coming from the Left. The list goes on and on.
It is just like Orwell predicted in "1984". If you recall, Ingsoc's Ministry of Peace was the very thing that perpetuated war.
And all in the name of controlling the folks. That's all it is. Power. The Left wants it, and if they can win the war of words and opinions, they will have it, because this past election has shown me one undeniable fact: People are sheep.
Hate to say it, but it is true.
I'm actually laughing having had the discipline to read entirely through this rant. Mr. Jennings has a sum total of *3* examples of "hate speech" on the left. Compared to the daily roar that is the staple of the right wing subversive media, *3* examples are laughable! This scholarly piece of work is 4 days late – it should have been posted on April 1.
Stewart is just trying to get on the Sorros payroll. Lefties like him would sell their souls for that kind of dough–those that even have souls.
I am always surprised when anyone is surprised that the American Bolsheviks like Stewart and Letterman, Moore et al rant and rave against counterrevolutionaries.
THAT'S THEIR JOB.
Just be thankful! If they had the guts of their old Soviet comrades, Rush would be in a Gulag or undergoing state-forced "psychiatric" treatment.
I saw that the instant it was posted, too. Bad on me.
Yes…saw that as soon as posted. Bad on me.
GOP is HISTORY ?
Fine with me, as they are the flipside of the Democrat coin of the realm. But you lefty fascists had better beware the rise of a real third party in America. The Rising is already starting. Your days swimming in pork fat are numbered, dude. Seriously.
Stewart is a political ideologue who apparently hates Limbaugh personally. His attacks ad hominem are obvious attempts to make up for personal shortcomings, such as his inability to stay focused on an issue–among others. He's just another talking head who took himself seriously and decided to change his purpose in life from entertaining people with amusing comments about life's sillyness to nag and scold. I guess comedy doesn't give his life meaning. Stewart is about as funny as Don Rickles on a bad day.
All the isms and phobias are the hob-goblin of the simple mind. No more are the days of being concerned about the “feelings” of one group or another, the stakes are simply to high. All of Washington right and left are the enemy of free Americans enslaving entire groups of people in generational servitude. John Stewart and his leftist ilk are miserable millionaires assuaging their guilt attempting to ruin the very engine that has allowed their largess. This is the greatest country the world has ever produced without exception, and I for one as a conservative am going to fight the chains of socialism and help move this country back towards it’s founding, the PC police can kiss my entire a$$!
I wish conservatives would STOP using the lexicon of the left. There is NO such thing as "hate speech." You don't have to be George Orwell to understand that "hate speech" is a euphemism to disguise censorship. Stewart is welcome to use any trite, inane, or ugly words he likes. It's rather useless to accuse the left of hypocrisy when their real intention is control.
Rush needs no stable of writers, morning meeting, teleprompter, or film clip editor. He speaks with passion, verbal acuity, and what he says always has the ring of truth and reason behind it. That, and he is entertaining. 'Stewart' and his cohorts are prepped by support staff, and egged on by canned audiences. The difference is profound.
Isn't it odd though, Rush simply was saying he wants to get out of NY because of such sky high taxes. You'd think dumb butt Stewart would have some empathy. Stewart is just a mean old hateful man.
I don't know what hate speech means, it is kind of up there with hate crimes, which is similarly silly.
I do know that Stewart is a snide little twerp with limited range, material and insight. Hey, he is a comedian who is not funny.
What more can we say?
I was just waiting for Pol Seas to post examples of Rush's "hate speech." Still haven't seen it posted, so I guess it isn't coming. Not the cut and paste partial quotes of the Media Matters half-wits, either, as they live by disengenuousness. As for the IntenseDebate feature screw-ups, please complain about it, several of us here have, maybe if enough do, they will fix it. I know BH was trying to do something about it, but I am getting tired of posting and reading the threads, as they are not as free-flowing, difficult to read, and so not as enjoyable.
People are taking more of an interest in Rush that ever before because of left-bashing he's getting – they want to see what all the fuss is about – and because more people are getting fed up with the Oblahblah Administration and their doggedly determination to bankrupt us all and make us all dependent upon the govt for our needs – socialism.
Rush has thick skin and can take it. These looney lefties think Rush will retreat under their attacks; they don't know this guy. The more they say, the more he stands up to them. Rush knows there are many of us behind him.
Stewart , Lettlerman and all the rest of the liberal mouthpieces aren't used to being made fools of. Go Rush!!
Yes, we know you hate Rush, love Jon Stewart. You tell us every single time the subject of either comes up. We. Get. It. And no, if you've had a kid in Boy Scouts, that s#it isn't funny. Rush says stuff that I disagree with, but he usually laughs or says them in such a way, (if you can detect subtle), that let's you know he is not overly serious. Stewart was mildly funny back when he first came out in his early stand up days. He should have pushed to do more movies, a much better fit for a man who is 50ish, whose comedy is on par with the stoned teenagers who watch. The kids I know call it The Daily Stoner Show. Sounds appropriate.
Exactly right! The left cannot debate any issues, so they attack the person saying what they don't like. This is why liberal radio tanked and conservative talk radio is flourishing.
I have to say, yeah, the hate speech moniker is a bit much. Stew can spew all he wants. He is just terribly unfunny when he does it. As for his show, anyone with even the least bit of talent could do his show. The writing, scripting, the support of the audience, all one needs is some timing and an ability to mug for the camera. Stewart has more talent than that show, and that's not saying much. I get the why of kids watching, it's the adults who do, that concern me.
I have to say, yeah, the hate speech moniker is a bit much. Stew can spew all he wants. He is just terribly unfunny when he does it. As for his show, anyone with even the least bit of talent could do his show. The writing, scripting, the support of the audience, all one needs is some timing and an ability to mug for the camera. Stewart has more talent than that show, and that's not saying much. I get the why of kids watching, it's the adults who do, that concern me.
The fact he doesn't use his real name tells me all I need to know about him.
HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? Not exactly Stewart, but Maher. He is interviewing Joe the Plumber, attempting, somewhat to be friendly, and still has to get in his snarkiness. Old Joe, not the smartest guy in the world, comes across much better. Oh well, you judge! :
http://conservativexpress.blogspot.com/2009/04/jo...
Again the lefties try to distract from what's really going on. Instead of addressing the reason Rush wants to get out to NY – Governor Patterson and his ridiculous tax increase – Stewart just attacks Rush – good riddance, etc. If the idiot thought about it for a minute he might disagree with the tax increase or question to validity of it. But if he did that the he would be agreeing with Rush – HORROR OF HORRORS! Since he can't do that, he'll just attack Rush and another stupid "tax the rich to death" increase is put through and no one blinks an eye. "Tax increase? What tax increase? Nothing to see here – move along – Rush is an idiot, etc."
Joe did handle himself well in that interview. Maher is a polished entertainer and could have run circles around a non-professional in that arena.
Maher's opinion that it is refreshing for the president to admit the US is flawed and makes mistakes is a typical liberal opinion. When a person in the position of responsibility, as the president is, does that, a lot of bad people are listening and can take those comments as weakness. If a normal guy admits mistakes, his wife just says I told you so. It does not have the repercussions as it would if he were representing a large amount of people.
Boilerbacker, I think what you're missing is that these guys are selling leftist humor. Their target audience is the left wing. If they attract you, it's purely by accident. They have basically decided that there is enough money to be made in preaching to the choir — or ranting to the lunatics (might be the better way to say it).
To attract the left, you need to do the whole bashing and hating thing that they do. Thought provoking is not wanted or needed, and the humor derives more from a shared hate than any actual humor.
It's probably time that we stopped calling these guys "comedians" and started calling them "left wing comedians."
Who cares what "Stewart" says, when he's ashamed to use his real name. That would be Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz… AKA Stewart, AKA Self Loathing Jerk. As to Hate Speech, if you are in question as to what it sounds like, listen to Air America…. if you can still find it on air, otherwise you can look for a tape at a Hollywood garage sale (if you find one, don't pay more than two cents for it).
I agree with you — for the most part. I don't find this bit offensive. So Stewart doesn't like the guy, so what? But I must say I'm a bit tired of this journalism-cum-comedian routine that allow Stewart and Maher and Colbert and Frankin to hide behind comedy whenever they say something controversial. It's like when someone spits in your face and says, "I was only kidding." Limbaugh's endorsement of the "Barack the Magic Negro" song was clearly over the top, though I don't consider him to be racist, it was more to the point of false expectations of the Messianic figure. I do believe the Left to be more angry and hateful than the Right in general, although it's impossible to gauge without some bias. I'm starting to see the anger/hate scales shift — as it does with power — a more mature "let's rise above the pettiness and name-calling" on the Left now that they've assumed power, just as I'm sensing the beginning of an uprising on the Right that could get very nasty indeed. Suffice it to say I agree with Michelle O when she said this is a mean country.
That was good! You don’t have to be a mental giant if you know what you believe, and in my mind he’s right on about the Fair Tax this would de-claw Washington, go Joe!
Well, due to the crappy nature of the collapsed thread here now at BH, I just now saw your comment, AC. I posted the Maher/Joe interview at the end of this thread. Everyone should watch it. It's Maher being fakey friendly/smarmy. Maher cries out for a bitc#-slapping.
Jon "Douche-Bag" Stewart is one of the reasons that I got rid of my cable TV last November. I WILL NOT pay for any TV service that even has one cent of my hard earned money going into his pocket. There are countless other reasons why I ditched my cable (LOGO, MTV, CNN, MSNBC) just to name a few.
I'm challenging all other right thinking Americans to join me in "cutting the cable" on their TVs. We are winning the battle on the newspaper front. Papers are barely staying afloat. Most are in the financial ledge, ready to jump. They say that ad rates are their real problem. But how do they set their ad rates? It's in part set by circulation numbers. If nobody is looking at their fish wrap, they can't charge as much as they would like for their ad space.
If all of us start dropping paid TV, the same will begin to happen. One by one, these crap cable networks will begin to "wither on the vine" just like the papers are doing now. I am about 5 months in on my no cable lifestyle and I don't miss it one bit. It may be a bit more difficult for those with kids, but if you can swing it, try cutting the cord and send a financial message to paid TV.
Hateful, spiteful, bitter.
And some folks wonder why I'm not a liberal anymore?
I would disagree with your definition of hate speech. Quoting someone out of context and then devaluing their arguments and positions based on those out of context snippets and ad hominem attacks the way Stewart and the left typically do qualifies as hate speech – hate the speaker, ala 2 minutes hate. They attack the person and not the point the person makes. Bristol Palin was, and still is, an entire campaign designed to deflect us from the arguments and alternative that Sarah Palin provides, and Bristol is an entirely different person.
Rush may mock the person with names and silly voices, but he also attacks the point of the argument quite aside from who made it. If you haven't realized this by now, then I have to wonder which of us is actually listening to his radio show.
There are many more examples of hate speech (lefty terms for those who disagree with them), that make these examples look like something out of Leave it to Beaver. The constant chants from the "Tolerant and Compassionate" left on how Bush was a Nazi. How those on the right want to bring back slavery, or starve women and children, want the elderly to die (even though eugenics is praised on the left). Look at the Code Pink bimbos and bimbers (?) who call our troops stupid for participating in Bush's lie – in front of Walter Reed Hospital while they're being treated. Charlie Rangel said that tax cuts was another word for slavery – funny coming from a man who doesn't pay his taxes.
Clinton essentially blamed Rush for the Oklahoma City bombing. Look at what they did to Palin. They crucified her from day one. Made up stories that were easily debunked by a grade school kid. They went after her daughter and family like wildfire, while giving our current president a free ride and hardly a hardball question in his entire campaign. Tim Robbins (not a genius) talking about a cold wind blowing over free speech, while giving a speech, then going home to his cozy apartment (not prison) with his mom, Susan Sarandon, for speaking out on the war. I don't have a list of all the vile insults from the touch-feely liberals against those on the right, but it wouldn't take a few minutes to find them on DailyKos, MoveOn or Democrat Underground.
Nobody really liked Winston Churchill either, but you cannot deny the man was brilliantly effective at what he did.
yeeech….Colbert is even worse than Stewart. Me thinks he got beat up to much as a little kid. What a tool.
I'm not sure what else to call it when a leftist calls out someone and tries to devalue their speech based simply on a screed based on "I hate them so should you."
I'll agree that he gave some pretty tame examples. There ARE much more vile ones that he could have used and plenty of them. It doesn't do any good to personally attack someone if you can legitimately attack their positions or policies. I've never heard Rush say anything racist in all the time I've listened to him. I don't believe he is.
Stewart has long passed the point of being a parody of himself. His rants are like that of the poor schizophrenic street guy who has stopped taking his meds and spends his days on street corners screaming aobut CIA mind-control experiments. The problem is that the schizo can't help himself and Stewart (presumably) can. It's amazing how "hp and cool"outright hate has become isn't it? Guys like George Wallace and Orville Faubus were certainly haters but they didn't have professional writing staffs prepping their material and they weren't featured on the cover of Vanity Fair and GQ. Jon Stewart is the examplar of what can only be called "hate chic." If the sophisticates of New York City really buy into this crap than Rush is well out of there.
It's fascinating to me to read this whining simpering garbage that you lefties put out there. I wear my beliefs on my chair when I am out in public and have never harmed a civilian piece of left wing trash…yet. However I have been repeatedly assaulted by the "tolerant" left. There is a reason that the common man is sick and tired of the left. I suggest you figure it out.
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Who are US Conservatives that you find hard to stomach? Isn't that the leftys version of 'you pepole'. How about backing up the 'far more objectionable' Limbaugh quotes of which you have heard?
John Stewart is a social and political commentator posing as a comedian. That is what is most maddening about his show. He's constantly taking potshots @ conservatives and uses his status as "comedian" as a fallback when pressed to defend his position.
Rush makes fifty million dollars a year from his radio show. Why should anyone have "empathy" because he'd have to pay a few thousand more in taxes? What won't he be able to buy? How will he suffer?
Unfortunately, it is a waste of time to respond to GOP is History types. They are so blinded by ideological hatred that it makes it impossible to reason with them. There arguments and attacks are usually ad hominem and rarely based on facts. Best to ignore at times as opposed to get sucked into a mind numbingly banal argument.
We'll see!
Only the left thinks that the corrupt actions of groups like ACORN (convicted of vote fraud) is acceptable. And I am NOT your buddy. I'm done troll. Don't bother responding.
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