Hate Speech Resides on the Left
by Brian JenningsI thought conservatives were the only group that was guilty of hate speech until I heard Jon Stewart’s rant on Rush Limbaugh. But, that was preceded by New York Governor David Paterson. And, that was preceded by David Letterman. Limbaugh is a tough football loving brute, but even three libs throwing illegal chop blocks can’t take Rush down. Odd how they accuse us of hate speech when in fact they are guilty three times this week. Three strikes and you’re out!
First, Letterman said Rush was too smart to believe what he says and should be the head of the Republican Party because he’s tubby. Second, Governor Paterson bashes Rush for announcing his intention to sell his Fifth Avenue condo because of high taxes and being audited ad nauseum. But, those incidents were mild compared to the idiotic rant by pseudo-comedian Jon Stewart who tells Rush to “get the fxxx out of here.” Stewart didn’t stop at that: “For years, for years, for years, New Yorkers have done everything in our power to get this guy to leave town. We knew he was into drugs, so we cleaned up Times Square. We even opened up a Disney store in the very place he would normally go to buy drugs.” The reference was Rush’s dependence on pain killers which he openly admitted on his show facing his problem honestly and ultimately winning his battle. But Stewart let his anger get the best of him and the hate spewed forth declaring everyone who smokes a cigar is a “douchebag.” And, then….”We outlawed murder, figuring he was a guy with a taste for it.”
I wonder how many times Stewart has really listened to Limbaugh? For liberals, it’s much easier to not listen and engage in criticism. The odd thing here is that Rush’s ratings are #1 in New York City on WABC radio. In fact, his ratings are the envy of the left. They can’t figure it out. Why would anyone want to listen to a “douchebag?” Well, I guess millions of us are “douchebags.” I’m a proud “douchebag” and I’m happy to say I am a proud, loud listener of Rush Limbaugh!
This deep hatred of the right began years ago when we stopped such things as “free health care.” Let me think…who pays for free health care? The hate increased when Bill Clinton was blown away by Monica…oh sorry. It increased when GW defeated Al (make me a billionaire global warming) Gore. But, the left became incredulous when GW defeated John Kerry and won a second term. They couldn’t believe it. So, they formed left-wing smear groups such as Media Matters to charge conservative media personalities with hate speech every chance they could.
What ever happened to comedians who used politics but avoided political commentary?. Today, the pseudo-comedians couldn’t exist without letting their bias bleed through.
It boils down to this. Jon Stewart is jealous of Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh makes more money and has a much more loyal audience. And, Rush has had 21 years of national success. Jon Stewart is a comparative lightweight who has to mock someone with hate to get noticed. Well, he did get noticed. We noticed his hate speech and won’t forget it next time the left accuses our side of it. Can’t they rest it? They won! But, they won’t rest until they have destroyed conservative thought in America because they simply know best.
Well, bring it on David. Bring it on Governor. Bring it on Stewart. Every time you whine about Rush, his ratings go up. We know who the real winner is.
Brian Jennings is author of Censorship: The Threat to Silence Talk Radio which will be published by Simon & Schuster May 5th. It is available now online at Amazon.
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Taking out-of-context videos and speeches, adding his own commentary, smirking, and spouting four letter words while talking over anyone who disagrees with him. Yeah, that's humor all right. I finally figured out that Jon Stewart is just an anorexic Michael Moore with a shave and a better tailor. I watch each equally often.
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What I don't get about these conservative hating, white male hating, Christian hating, Bush hating, etc 'celebs' is … don't they see that they are potentially alienating half of their potential audience …. And why the hell would anyone want to sit and listen to this tripe in the audience (even if you were a turbo liberal)? There is no thought provoking content in these comments/rants or in the comments/rants of the other super intellectual comedian, Mr Maher. In addition, there is no humor.
Wiping the milk I just blew out of my nose from explosive laughter ~ Please, you're kidding right? This is the kind of hyperbole that makes us conservatives hard to stomach on occasion. Your examples of "hate speech" by Stewart are laughable. So much so, its comparable to the silliness that erupts when people call behavior racist thats clearly not. I've heard Rush say any number of things far more objectionable than your quotes from Stewart. Its a silly rant.
True, that.
So Rush doesn't deserve a second chance Jon? You of all people should admire a man who overcame obstacles and has gained a bigger audience than before.
Stewart and Colbert are both in the class of Non-Funny comedians. Also in that class are most of the cast of SNL, Margaret Cho, Rosie Odonnell, Joy Behar, etc….
The only hate speech I have heard Rush say is Henry Waxman has large nostrils. He calls Ted Kennedy the swimmer. Begala is the forehead. Is that really hate speech or is it just over-sensitive people getting their feelings hurt?
Well, Jon certainly out did himself. I can almost see the spittle spraying from his mouth. Perhaps it's time to call in an exorcist.
Did you hear Rush's commentary about The Individual being the largest minority? He hit it out of the park and it hasn't come down yet. These morons should listen to that as they accept Andrew Klavan's challenge
And all the while they rant and rave and try to take Rush down let's not forget WHY they are doing it: Rush Limbaugh gave one of the greatest speeches this nation has ever heard. Bar None. It is what he said and the way he said it in the speech that launched this latest attack on Rush Limbaugh. The Nation should hear that speech as often as there is a hate rant against Rush by the likes of Stewart, Colbert, Begala,Carville( that big eared grinning Nosfratu!) and gang. Enough of their idiocy already. It is bad enough there is absolutely nothing on television that is worth watching or listening to regarding political commentary from the left. Bill Mahar is an idiot and unfunny. Jon Stewart is famous only in his own mind. I wonder how his sponsors feel about that rant because I know it offended me. As a consumer I make notations of sponsors of offensive shows and let them know I will not buy their products. They all need to have THEIR shows cancelled rather than trying to take down a man who excels at what he does. Especially when they DO NOT!)
Its not a defense of Stewart nor an attack on Rush that I'm making. I'm attacking what I think is a ridiculous argument by Jennings calling a few lame quotes critical of Rush "hate speech". Rush engages in vigorous critiques of his own daily, certainly every bit the same in tone as Stewart's or stronger. If you listen to Rush you know this to be true, I don't need a bunch of supporting "evidence". Rush's stock in trade is his robust and vigorous commentary. Why play this game that Rush is some sort of mealy mouthed radio peacenik?
I positively detest arguments of this sort that amount to bald faced lies in an attempt to push forward the conservative viewpoint and I find them counterproductive. We want to decry the left's hyperbole and then we practice our own. The quotes Jennings cites are not "hate speech" directed at Rush, its simply overkill to label them that way. Rush directs withering verbal fire at liberals and whoever else he likes. Its not hate speech either. The only difference between the two is one you agree with and one you don't. That would have been the honest point for Jennings to make.
Yeah, saying someone has a "taste for murder" isn't hate speech … This from the side who believes the word "tax cut" is hate speech because it's a "code word."
I'm starting to think this isn't jealousy but frustration. Rush is someone they can't take down, they can't control, thus a serious threat. And the clock is ticking, even they know they can't cover for Barry and friends forever. Bush is wisely staying silent so that material is getting stale, now they've found substituting Rush hasn't worked. So, Stewart is following the liberal rulebook, when something doesn't work, do it again twice as large and twice as loud!
Loved the "Get Out!" line, delivered after Rush announced we was already going. Liberal standard, soon Stewart will declare he forced Rush out!
You sure he calls Ted Kennedy "the swimmer?" I thought that was Bob Grant's line. It's a good one, too.
If you've heard so many examples perhaps you'd care to share a few?
I don't know why people watch this guy, every time I have seen him he commits the cardinal sin of comedians. HE JUST ISN'T FUNNY! It is all bad jokes and middle school face making. HE JUST ISN'T FUNNY.
The author was trying to make a point, which I think most of us got. "Get the f–k out of New York" isn't exactly love speech. But the real point is that we're simply tired of being accused of hate speech when the left is, if anything, more experienced and has a whole lot more people and places to spew it. If you don't like the words "hate speech" as being too extreme, how about "mean-spirited?" The left has been calling us that for decades, usually just before saying that all us fascist pigs should die.
The author was not suggesting that the left has a monopoly on hateful speech, he was suggesting that the left should stop its faux indignation every time a conservative makes a comment they don't like. And please allow some of us to think that even if Stewart's routines aren't hate speech, they're still not funny.
Name one. Name even one time Rush has used profanity.
And nice try following the lefty interloper playbook, as in "us conservatives", but pushed your luck with the milk through the nose bit.
I quit watching Stewart and Letterman long ago…
The author was trying to make a point, which I think most of us got. "Get the f–k out of New York" isn't exactly love speech. But the real point is that we're simply tired of being accused of hate speech when the left is, if anything, more experienced and has a whole lot more people and places to spew it. If you don't like the words "hate speech" as being too extreme, how about "mean-spirited?" The left has been calling us that for decades, usually just before saying that all us fascist pigs should die.
Ahh, there it is, the "you're not a real conservative" argument. If I don't subscribe to whatever the rabid conservative position of the hour, I'm not a conservative and therefore unqualified to comment. Or in other words, since I'm not participating in the echo chamber exercise on this particular topic, since I don't agree with Jennings silly rhetorical argument, you needn't address the cogent point I'm making.
Irrespective of your judgment as to my conservative bonafides, it doesn't change my point at all, which is that Jennings is silly and engaging in hyperbole to call Stewart's comedic opinions "hate speech". It is the same sort of hysteria conservatives accuse the left of engaging in all the time. Its absurd when the left does it and I find it even more so when conservatives (who are supposed to be the grownups) do it.
Jennings started it with this silly "hate speech" screech, and when I point out the highly robust commentary of Rush, people respond as if Rush talks the language of sweetness and light, when in fact he is a gatling gun of rhetorical conservative firepower and is intentionally provocative. The difference? This crowd agrees with Rush, not Stewart and thats ALL the difference. "hate speech" is not a relevant issue at all.
The author was not suggesting that the left has a monopoly on hateful speech, he was suggesting that the left should stop its faux indignation every time a conservative makes a comment they don't like. And please allow some of us to think that even if Stewart's routines aren't hate speech, they're still not funny.
I agree, but you instantly lose credibility by using "proceeded" instead of "preceded". Mind your grammar.
Dude, are you surprised? Obama has openly admitted he is a socialist and we still have people on the left rolling their eyes, like Bill Maher, and asking "Do you _really_ believe he's a socialist? Seriously? You really believe that nonsense?"
It's like fact doesn't matter to these people. I saw the "interview" Maher did with Joe the Plumber, besides the "do you REALLY believe he's a socialist" nonsense he kept repeating the nonsense Obama spewed about only raising taxes "on the rich" from "36 to 39 percent". If it comes from a Democrat these people just take it as read, don't bother thinking about it or fact-checking it or anything. They just repeat it then go on another rant about how Republicans don't understand the economy, Republicans don't understand 'the working man', and on and on and on. They're delusional.
That was when Maher lost me: not when his politics diverged from mine, but when he stopped being funny. 1000 variations of "Bush is dumb" jokes just don't cut it.
How do you regard it when Rush says something offensive?
"If I don't subscribe to whatever the rabid conservative position of the hour, I'm not a conservative and therefore unqualified to comment."
Or, I have simply stated my evaluation of what you consider your conservatism.
While commenting on rhetorical devices from "bald faced lies" to hyperbole, you are quick to label me with positions I have not taken, ascribing unstated views based on your own personal inference. As you have said, "We want to decry the left's hyperbole and then we practice our own." True words, indeed.
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Sorry, but the jokes about the neckerchiefs and jamborees as examples of the gayitude made me laugh.
Rush has often said that when the Left is out of power, they're hysterical. When they're in power, they're dangerous. They're VERY dangerous now, and NOT in a good way. Humor is one of the few weapons we have in our arsenal as conservatives, and Rush's humor is up there with the best of them, as illustrated by his parodies of Obama, Bawney Fwank, Algore, et. al.
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I thought you were the big champion of gay rights so I would guess your saying the Boy Scouts and Alter Boys are great otherwise your little crack shows the normal hypocrisy of the left, you can say something is gay to insult things conservatives like but when a conservatives call something gay it's hate speech…oh well at least we can be grateful you didn't give us another of your condescending lectures
Okay, I can see both a comma and a string of periods, so I know he knows where those keys are…
Oh wait, he mentions Alter Boys. That was the little cross-dressing Catholic-bashing group from San Francisco, did a few plays on college campuses around 1987, right?
Okay, I can see both a comma and a string of periods, so I know he knows where those keys are…
Oh wait, he mentions Alter Boys. That was the little cross-dressing Catholic-bashing group from San Francisco, did a few plays on college campuses around 1987, right?
I am so ready to delve into the personal lives of stewart, olbermann, tina fey, behar, o'donnell, etc……how much would a PI cost?…..I'd be willing to chip in, how about you?
Stewart is just trying to get on the Sorros payroll. Lefties like him would sell their souls for that kind of dough–those that even have souls.
I saw that the instant it was posted, too. Bad on me.
Stewart is a political ideologue who apparently hates Limbaugh personally. His attacks ad hominem are obvious attempts to make up for personal shortcomings, such as his inability to stay focused on an issue–among others. He's just another talking head who took himself seriously and decided to change his purpose in life from entertaining people with amusing comments about life's sillyness to nag and scold. I guess comedy doesn't give his life meaning. Stewart is about as funny as Don Rickles on a bad day.
All the isms and phobias are the hob-goblin of the simple mind. No more are the days of being concerned about the “feelings” of one group or another, the stakes are simply to high. All of Washington right and left are the enemy of free Americans enslaving entire groups of people in generational servitude. John Stewart and his leftist ilk are miserable millionaires assuaging their guilt attempting to ruin the very engine that has allowed their largess. This is the greatest country the world has ever produced without exception, and I for one as a conservative am going to fight the chains of socialism and help move this country back towards it’s founding, the PC police can kiss my entire a$$!
I wish conservatives would STOP using the lexicon of the left. There is NO such thing as "hate speech." You don't have to be George Orwell to understand that "hate speech" is a euphemism to disguise censorship. Stewart is welcome to use any trite, inane, or ugly words he likes. It's rather useless to accuse the left of hypocrisy when their real intention is control.
Rush needs no stable of writers, morning meeting, teleprompter, or film clip editor. He speaks with passion, verbal acuity, and what he says always has the ring of truth and reason behind it. That, and he is entertaining. 'Stewart' and his cohorts are prepped by support staff, and egged on by canned audiences. The difference is profound.
I don't know what hate speech means, it is kind of up there with hate crimes, which is similarly silly.
I do know that Stewart is a snide little twerp with limited range, material and insight. Hey, he is a comedian who is not funny.
What more can we say?
The fact he doesn't use his real name tells me all I need to know about him.
HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? Not exactly Stewart, but Maher. He is interviewing Joe the Plumber, attempting, somewhat to be friendly, and still has to get in his snarkiness. Old Joe, not the smartest guy in the world, comes across much better. Oh well, you judge! :
http://conservativexpress.blogspot.com/2009/04/jo...
Boilerbacker, I think what you're missing is that these guys are selling leftist humor. Their target audience is the left wing. If they attract you, it's purely by accident. They have basically decided that there is enough money to be made in preaching to the choir — or ranting to the lunatics (might be the better way to say it).
To attract the left, you need to do the whole bashing and hating thing that they do. Thought provoking is not wanted or needed, and the humor derives more from a shared hate than any actual humor.
It's probably time that we stopped calling these guys "comedians" and started calling them "left wing comedians."
I agree with you — for the most part. I don't find this bit offensive. So Stewart doesn't like the guy, so what? But I must say I'm a bit tired of this journalism-cum-comedian routine that allow Stewart and Maher and Colbert and Frankin to hide behind comedy whenever they say something controversial. It's like when someone spits in your face and says, "I was only kidding." Limbaugh's endorsement of the "Barack the Magic Negro" song was clearly over the top, though I don't consider him to be racist, it was more to the point of false expectations of the Messianic figure. I do believe the Left to be more angry and hateful than the Right in general, although it's impossible to gauge without some bias. I'm starting to see the anger/hate scales shift — as it does with power — a more mature "let's rise above the pettiness and name-calling" on the Left now that they've assumed power, just as I'm sensing the beginning of an uprising on the Right that could get very nasty indeed. Suffice it to say I agree with Michelle O when she said this is a mean country.
Who cares what "Stewart" says, when he's ashamed to use his real name. That would be Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz… AKA Stewart, AKA Self Loathing Jerk. As to Hate Speech, if you are in question as to what it sounds like, listen to Air America…. if you can still find it on air, otherwise you can look for a tape at a Hollywood garage sale (if you find one, don't pay more than two cents for it).
Mr. Jennings, If you are reading this, I encourage you to keep on exploring some of the views and sentiments expressed here on Andrew Breitbart's internet company. As a frequent link from Matt Drudge's similar site, and one that supports a comment section, Breitbart's comment section has become a town hall of right america. And what a scary place that is!
I read racial epithets and calls for harm to minorities every day here at Breitbart's comment area. There is no doubt that, because this is the internet and everyone here posts anonymously, people feel emboldened to speak their hostilities more harshly and openly than I know they would in person, in public or private, in front of my face or yours.
But there's no doubt, and the proof surrounds us! Hate is right here with Breitbart's many followers. Just have a look around.
Jon "Douche-Bag" Stewart is one of the reasons that I got rid of my cable TV last November. I WILL NOT pay for any TV service that even has one cent of my hard earned money going into his pocket. There are countless other reasons why I ditched my cable (LOGO, MTV, CNN, MSNBC) just to name a few.
I'm challenging all other right thinking Americans to join me in "cutting the cable" on their TVs. We are winning the battle on the newspaper front. Papers are barely staying afloat. Most are in the financial ledge, ready to jump. They say that ad rates are their real problem. But how do they set their ad rates? It's in part set by circulation numbers. If nobody is looking at their fish wrap, they can't charge as much as they would like for their ad space.
If all of us start dropping paid TV, the same will begin to happen. One by one, these crap cable networks will begin to "wither on the vine" just like the papers are doing now. I am about 5 months in on my no cable lifestyle and I don't miss it one bit. It may be a bit more difficult for those with kids, but if you can swing it, try cutting the cord and send a financial message to paid TV.
Hateful, spiteful, bitter.
And some folks wonder why I'm not a liberal anymore?
I would disagree with your definition of hate speech. Quoting someone out of context and then devaluing their arguments and positions based on those out of context snippets and ad hominem attacks the way Stewart and the left typically do qualifies as hate speech – hate the speaker, ala 2 minutes hate. They attack the person and not the point the person makes. Bristol Palin was, and still is, an entire campaign designed to deflect us from the arguments and alternative that Sarah Palin provides, and Bristol is an entirely different person.
Rush may mock the person with names and silly voices, but he also attacks the point of the argument quite aside from who made it. If you haven't realized this by now, then I have to wonder which of us is actually listening to his radio show.
Nobody really liked Winston Churchill either, but you cannot deny the man was brilliantly effective at what he did.
yeeech….Colbert is even worse than Stewart. Me thinks he got beat up to much as a little kid. What a tool.
I'm not sure what else to call it when a leftist calls out someone and tries to devalue their speech based simply on a screed based on "I hate them so should you."
I'll agree that he gave some pretty tame examples. There ARE much more vile ones that he could have used and plenty of them. It doesn't do any good to personally attack someone if you can legitimately attack their positions or policies. I've never heard Rush say anything racist in all the time I've listened to him. I don't believe he is.
Stewart has long passed the point of being a parody of himself. His rants are like that of the poor schizophrenic street guy who has stopped taking his meds and spends his days on street corners screaming aobut CIA mind-control experiments. The problem is that the schizo can't help himself and Stewart (presumably) can. It's amazing how "hp and cool"outright hate has become isn't it? Guys like George Wallace and Orville Faubus were certainly haters but they didn't have professional writing staffs prepping their material and they weren't featured on the cover of Vanity Fair and GQ. Jon Stewart is the examplar of what can only be called "hate chic." If the sophisticates of New York City really buy into this crap than Rush is well out of there.
It's fascinating to me to read this whining simpering garbage that you lefties put out there. I wear my beliefs on my chair when I am out in public and have never harmed a civilian piece of left wing trash…yet. However I have been repeatedly assaulted by the "tolerant" left. There is a reason that the common man is sick and tired of the left. I suggest you figure it out.
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Who are US Conservatives that you find hard to stomach? Isn't that the leftys version of 'you pepole'. How about backing up the 'far more objectionable' Limbaugh quotes of which you have heard?
John Stewart is a social and political commentator posing as a comedian. That is what is most maddening about his show. He's constantly taking potshots @ conservatives and uses his status as "comedian" as a fallback when pressed to defend his position.
Unfortunately, it is a waste of time to respond to GOP is History types. They are so blinded by ideological hatred that it makes it impossible to reason with them. There arguments and attacks are usually ad hominem and rarely based on facts. Best to ignore at times as opposed to get sucked into a mind numbingly banal argument.
We'll see!
Only the left thinks that the corrupt actions of groups like ACORN (convicted of vote fraud) is acceptable. And I am NOT your buddy. I'm done troll. Don't bother responding.
SUA SPONTE
Well, that just simplifies things. We can attack in any direction.
I have been reading this blog since it's inception. I have never read one racial epithet. Please show an example or retract.
Colbert RULES…his trashing of the phony crier Glenn Beck was comedic genius (unlike Stewart's rant on Limbaugh, which was just unfunny and misguided- "he has a taste for murder"? REALLY???)! BTW I'm a conservative, and can laugh at myself and the foilbles of others, unlike some stick-in-the-muds here…who's you're idea of funny? That Gutfeld guy who just trashed Canadian soldiers who are on OUR side?
You better WATCH WHAT YOU SAY BUDDY. He took out a few of the LEFT-CONTROLLED POLICE, before he went down, but one of your brothers-in-arms died in the fight this weekend!
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You mean like Michael (Weiner) Savage? Not that I blame him in that instance…
You call such a leftist a useful idiot. The entire hate-speech gambit by the left is an attempt to control the debate by censoring what an individual can say. Once you control the lexicon, you control the ideas an individual is permitted to have. Conservatives should make their stand on the basis of the First Amendment, not on whose speech is the more hateful.
Stewart and Colbert are powerful forces for the left in their ongoing cultural attacks on conservatism and their nightly distortions of who we are, what we believe in and the direction we would like to take the country. Sadly, they are very effective in their distortions since every real news and cultural outlet — including Fox News — pays homage to their mocking by running their skits and celebrating their stars.
Personally, I’m waiting for Fox to give Dennis Miller his own satirical talk-show which could combine elements of Bill Maher‘s newmakers/cultural icons/political figures panel mixed in with the snark and mockery of Colbert or Stewart . I can imagine Dennis running down the days news stories taking jabs at the MSM and making a mockery on a nightly basis as to what constitutes as journalism in today’s world as well as the sheer lunacy of today’s left and the vapid causes they support, endorse and believe wholeheartedly in. Dennis would never be hard-pressed for material — not with likes of the MSM bursting with overwhelming absurdity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.
Shut up! You aren't a conservative you're a GD liar. Go back to Jesse, Al and the rest of your duplicitous weaklings. You haven't a clue what a conservative or a Republican is.
Stewart is so brilliant, just ask him.
A rich socialist. The comfortable kind, the kind like Obama that have no personal pain resultant from their university learned, laboratory ideology.
Canadian soldiers? Really? Where? With guns and stuff? I thought the Canadians only fought in hockey rinks, for fun.
Watch Leno's primetime foray go down in flames, quickly.
As with the rest of the media, you completely MISSED THE POINT about the whole Michael J. Fox non-controversy. Fox ADMITTED that he didn't take his meds and showed himself jerking around. Then Rush duplicated that, but the media took video from his Dittocam and accelerated it to make it appear as though Rush was being mean-spirited by making it a parody of what Fox did. Get your facts straight on the issue, rather than relying on the liberal media.
Dr. Sowell would have my vote in a heartbeat.
Would fit in well with NBC's plan to become more and more irrelevant…
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Ah, I love Jon Stewart. The way he pisses off the conservatives, he must be doing something right.
I've never thought that Rush was offensive, not once, not ever.
Have you ever actually listened to Rush? or do you assume that he's hateful- because the left says so?
Liberals are stupid, and should never have the last word.
One could say the same thing about Rush.
Jon Stewart sure has a bug up his butt doesn't he?
I guess all of his silly faces can't help get rid of it.
My idea of funny? Rodney Dangerfield, Bill Cosby, Demetri Martin, Jackie Mason, Steven Wright, …….
Mine too.
I'm glad you brought this up. Stewart a Jewish name? I see where he got his "nome de plume". Thanks.
Elected through well crafted lies and ACORN fueled fraud. Obama reeks of illegitimacy and his policies will clearly never match his campaign rhetoric. He's a liar and will be bum rushed out of Washington D.C. and into the media the kisses his ass as a full time member. Like Clinton without the phony rasp.
Many here will defend your right to speak out, anybody that physically laid a hand on you would have to deal with a response that would include extreme prejudice if any of us were present, rest assured many of us are sick of the left and their Gestapo tactics.
is this the same "common man" that, through our great democratic process, has elected a left-wing controlled Congress & Whitehouse? I got a news flash for ya. The common man is leaning left these days, buddy.
don't let the landscape of fanatics here at Breitbart fool ya. It is US that surrounds YOU – on the west coast, east coast, southern and northern boarders! HA!.
1. Rush is not a politician.
2.. The clip of Rush was nothing more than him saying he was leaving NY. What "lies" and "crap" was Stewart exposing?. The only thing Stewart exposed in his little game was his own hatred.
3. Stewart cares about America but Limbaugh only cares about himself? Says who, you? Fool.
4. A White House directed attack on a radio host and all Obama's brownshirters is just one example of Obama's "iron fist."
5. Obama is not cleaning up any mess; he's using the 'never let a crisis go to waste' to radically change America into HIS vision of what America should be. He's been an anti-American his whole life as revealed clearly through his books, his mentors and associations throughout life (communists/Marxists), and his adherence to the Saul Alinsky way (which is what his community organizing was patterned after).
"The Obama administration is considering asking Congress to give the Treasury secretary unprecedented powers to initiate the seizure of non-bank financial companies such as large insures, investment firms, and hedge funds whose collapse would damage the broader economy, according to the administration document."
The Obama administration has also forced banks to take TARP money. Now it's about the government determining how much money people 'deserve' to be paid. People who don't even pay income taxes are getting a 'tax refund'. The Democrats are the ones who forced banks to lower lending practices to begin with.
You left-wingers are ignorant and uneducated. Masses of people impressed by 'celebrity' as America is pushed off a cliff. Stick to your comedians for news; the rest of us are not lemmings.
BTW, Obama didn't have much luck with NATO allies. You see, the supposed lack of charm by Bush was never the problem. Just another thing lefties are ignorant about.
You left-wingers are fools, utter fools;
People are entitled to think Stewart is not funny. I never suggested otherwise. And I listen to Rush. My primary point was and still is that its a silly hyperbolic argument that mimics the very behavior it decries and I find such commentary from the conservative side of the aisle to not be very useful.
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I never claimed Rush used profanity, and if he had that would not be a big deal to me anyway. I use profanity. Rush has made comments people find offensive. Lets not pretend the man has never offended anyone. For example, the caller he told to call back after they had removed the bone from their nose. Thats offensive. Maybe it doesn't offend you, but there are plenty of people, me among them, who find that offensive. Am I at home crying in my milk about it, no, its not that deep. But you cannot argue that
Rush has never been offensive to anybody. Thats just silly and off my point besides. I think its dumb and silly to label Stewarts comments "hate speech". Someone else made the point that we ought not appropriate the language of the left. I think thats a good point. As for the lefty interloper bit, that typifies the GOP's problem (I'm not sure about the conservative movement in general, still thinking on it) but this idea that I have to think exactly like you in order to be judged a proper conservative is wrongheaded. It is fascinating to me that in every conservative forum where my viewpoint runs counter to the herd, this is the typical response, to discount my view by asserting I'm not a "true conservative" which amounts to nothing more than an assertion that I don't agree with you. Since I find no value in handwringing about the "hate speech" of Stewart, I'm not a proper conservative. Thats a brilliant argument.
You shut up. You're ignorant and incapable of conducting a reasoned conversation. Your rabid dog response of insult and name calling give conservatives a bad name. Its telling that this is the kind of response you have to someone simply expressing their opinion. You don't agree with my view, you can simply say so and leave it there, but you want to jump off into sorry attempts at intimidation and name calling. You're a conservative, but clearly a stupid one.
He is, he is doin your mot her.
Happy?
So glad to know that you're not doing any "hand wringing" however the "bone in the nose" comment must have left quite an impression because it stuck in your memory. Those who choose to be offended will almost ALWAYS find something to be offended about.
Puhlease..The jerk calling himself "Guy Arthur Thomas" is obviously a lefty plant. They send them out to make TRUE conservatives look bad.
Frankly CD, nobody gives a $hit what you think. This is the game as defined by the radical left now we're all choosing sides.
"And shall we just carelessly allow children to hear any casual tales which may be devised by casual persons, and to receive into their minds ideas for the most part the very opposite of those which we should wish them to have when they grow up.
We cannot.
Then the first thing will be to establish a censorship of the writers of fiction, and let the censors receive any tale of fiction that is good and reject the bad; and we will desire mothers and nurses to tell their children the authorized ones only"
Plato's Republic Chapter II.
Plato's Chosen have thought like this for 3000 years. The left are dictatorial tyrants. However like the ancient Greeks and Romans they equated their rule with a moral clarity that gave them the authority to proscribe thought. A conservative does not censor liberals, he answers them. When a liberal makes a statement that is unfair or wrong the conservative attacks the argument and explains its folly. The left believe their argument is superior and therefore have decided they don't need to answer us. The fact that we find fault with their perceived wisdom of Mount Olympus is enough for then to censure us.
It is probably the most evil aspect of their philosophy.
Plato's Chosen have thought like this for 3000 years. The left are dictatorial tyrants. However like the ancient Greeks and Romans they equated their rule with a moral clarity that gave them the authority to proscribe thought. A conservative does not censor liberals, he answers them. When a liberal makes a statement that is unfair or wrong the conservative attacks the argument and explains its folly. The left believe their argument is superior and therefore have decided they don't need to answer us. The fact that we find fault with their perceived wisdom of Mount Olympus is enough for them to censure us.
It is probably the most evil aspect of their philosophy.
[...] the Left I thought conservatives were the only group that was guilty of hate speech until I heard Jon Stewart’s rant on Rush Limbaugh. But, that was preceded by New York Governor David Paterson. And, that was preceded by David [...]
I'm sorry you had that experience with FB. We've hooked back up with some friends who are decidedly left-leaning through FB as well. Luckily, we have hooked up with some who are more thoughful and have had some productive discussions where we have managed to make them see that conservatives are mainly interested in minimal government and personal liberty and in more area than they realize, we can agree when we actually come to the table and talk rather than lob emotion bombs at one another.
Than there are the ones like you describe who sound like the typical thoughtless sheeple who can't think beyond MSM party-line.
There are examples of un-rational screeching that should be called hate speech, clearly illogical and provided without supporting facts. Saying all jew
elers are inbred monsters who should be slaughtered and sent to ovens clearly qualifies, since "all" would include converts.But the term is highly overused, and far from equally applied.
BTW, anybody get hit by the moderation beast since the changes?
If you're truly not a racist, you don't need to point it out.
See how functionally useless that construction is? I'm not impugning some race thing to you in anyway, merely making the point that the logic of the statements is the same. And who are you kidding? The ACORN bit is an insult.
Look up "Chesty Puller" before going on a oh-so-sanctimonious rant.
Oh wait, history was something you never bothered to read, right?
You might want to look at the percentage totals. You don't have quite as much control as you think… or want us icky awful people who disagree with you to think. That is your game, isn't it?
Though thanks for showing yourself as another "tyranny of the majority" supporter. The typical mindset found in lynch mobs across the globe and throughout history.
I shouldn't give this fruitcake anymore exposure but speaking of freakin' hate speech this guy takes the cake.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/04...
Oh, come now… you can do better than that.
Sorry, but this is pretty much a non-useful argument. Being a decent person doesn't work when one side is certain they absolutely can't be wrong and all the other side is doing is arguing their level of wrongness. It's why we've stopped talking about race in this country, the second you step away from completely-tolerant non-critical you're labeled a tool, a fool, or some form of racist. You can't find intellectual discourse for that reason. The Socratic method was invented by slave-owning dead white guys to keep the brother down.
I gather from your picture and comments you regard yourself to be a black conservative. I'd rather you were just a conservative. The liberals do self-labeling, the Democrats have long been known as the party of inclusion. They'll include any small-minded self-centered group whose votes they can lock in without pissing off too badly one they already have.
Brother, are you ready to join the fight?
I'm pretty sure it's the indignant tone that's been putting people off. Pouncing on statements and declaring insult is liberal stock and trade. It helps to recognize the attempt at humor in the piece, the revealing of hypocrisy by the left on the subject. That should have happened from the very first line, "I thought conservatives were the only group that was guilty of hate speech…" If you really want to be known as an offended conservative, should have started there. You didn't, which leaves two interpretations, you're a conservative who recognizes self-deprecating humor, which is sort of counter-indicated by your non-humorous dead-serious taking-offense posts, or you breezed over it because you accept it as true. And why would a conservative do that?
ahhhhhhhh nothing like celebrity stalkers to warm the heart!
[...] Hate Speech Resides on the Left by Brian Jennings [...]
Certainly expresses the validation of reason…
It must have been the neck of the woods you grew up in because I was both a Boy Scout and Altar Boy until high school graduation and I can't say that I ever noticed "funny" stuff in either group from any of the adults (in Boy Scouts) or priests in church.
You sure you weren't projecting? …just sayin'.
I've seen a few clips of Stewart and maybe it's just me but I don't find seething scorn of conservatives all that funny. People like Robin Williams, George Lopez, Seinfeld, Bob Hope to me are funny. The fact that younger people get their news and political information from a so-called comedian scares me quite frankly.
Actually I find him a sad person filled with mindless rage. What I don't care for is that people actually think he's reporting the news. In 50 years people won't remember who he was.
Nice use of the strike to get around the moderation.
Glad you have no strong opinions on the matter Madelyn …..
Good Post!
You say you "blew milk out of your nose." You ask, "You're kidding, right?" You denounce the examples given, which include calling Limbaugh a douchebag and having a taste for murder, as "laughable."
Then you get on your high horse about the offensive tone others use? Next time, think before you post. Maybe you won't have to backpedal so much.
*sigh*. Tone is the issue then is it? Well, sorry that the tone isn't to the crowd's liking. I don't think a complaint about tone has anything to do with my essential point, which was that I thought Jennings "hate speech" riff was non useful hyperbole, as pompous in its own way as you say Stewart is.
The extended "your'e not really a conservative" argument is tired. I'm only a conservative if I echo your take on this post is what I think that argument amounts too. Thats not a particularly good argument as it simply says if you don't subscribe to our groupthink, you're not a conservative. The right excoriates the left as the home of the truly intolerant, but the suggestion that talking about "hate speech" isn't useful to advance the conservative cause means I'm not a "real" conservative. I don't see how you can take that position and still crow that the right is the most tolerant of different points of view. That mild difference of opinion is enough to land me a -50 point score and repeated accusations of having no conservative convictions. What people say does not square with what they do.
As for tone, I think there is quite a good deal of "indignation" here to go around.
The new system is being a pain. First Post, and see the HTML tags become ampersand notation. Immediately Edit, replace notation with what you had to begin with, then Save (re-post), and the system finally takes it. Took three tries to get it right. I pasted an URL in a post, no tags, on it's own line, system brought it up as plain text. Edit, Save (no changes), then it was a link!
I'm wondering if there is moderation right now, with the tags the first three letters are separate and it should have noticed. I could have just used something different in quotes to avoid moderation, what was done was more of a test.
Oh and your rapid rant is…reasoned? STFU Jesse Jr.
Did you enjoy calling me Jesse Jr. ? Race based insults. How original. And yes, my rapid rant is more reasoned than anything you have said or will say.
The funny part about your post is that viewers who get the majority of their news from the Daily Show have been proven to be more informed than viewers who get the majority of their news from Fox News.
A comedy show is more accurate than Fox News. If you are concerned about being well informed it would be in your best interest to take a more serious look at the failings of Fox News.
I love how you guys have resorted to attempting to bludgeon a comedy show. Trust me, it won't work. Still, you made me smile. Here's a quote – I don't think it will help, but it's worth a try.
"I have long felt that any reviewer who expresses rage and loathing for a novel is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae or a banana split." – Kurt Vonnegut
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