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L.B. "Oscar" Mayer - January 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Nice scene – Ward Bond and Erroll Flynn from "Gentleman Jim". Never seen it and now I would like to.
Respect.
They ran an old NCIS yesterday with Charles During as a WW2 vet in some trouble. An officious officer and two Marines in fatigues come to take him into custody w/o out much fanfare. D'Nozzio moves aside Durning's tie to reveal the Medal of Honor and the 2 Marines instantly snap to attention and salute him. Moved me to tears.
Near the end of Braveheart when Mel is being eviscerated. Not his reaction, but the reaction of his compatriots in the crowd always brings a tear to my eye.
Class and decency. Characteristics sorely missing in many parts of our country today…Washington, Hollywood, Chicago, and San Francisco, to name just a few.
Never even heard of it, but now I'm going to netflix it.
metroplexual - January 28th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Much admirable behavior, character, savoir faire, just doing the right thing is learned and reinforced by observing it and its effects in role models at home in the community and especially in our culture.
As someone who's consumption of today's popular movies, television shows and music has fallen to practically zero I lament the lack of such positive behavior on display and how much of this is at odds with parents' and schools' efforts to cultivate such traits in our children.
I always loved this scene. It stands by itself but with the rest of the movie behind it. It really has punch. No pun intended. You can't go wrong with Errol Flynn or Ward Bond.
Can we get a definitive definition for "metrosexual"? Only because sometimes I get the feeling it's simply used as a placeholder for "actor we don't like."
(Of course, if a guy spends more time on his hair than his wife does, that's self-explanatory. )
Arg. One of my favorite films. I get choked up by that scene every time. Of course, I'm just a 6'2"/220 pound marshmallow man. Even reruns of Lassie, Flipper and Little House get to me anymore. LOL.
Goes directly back to my comment on the Ali thread though: Sportsmanship like that is a beautiful thing, and it's virtually dead today.
There are few scenes that can choke me up like that one. Another one that comes to mind is the scene in Glory where the 54th is marching down to the beach for their assault on Ft. Wagner. They marched between columns of white union soldiers on either side, when one of the white soldiers shouts "GIVE EM HELL 54!!!!" and the rest of the white soldiers erupt in cheers for their fellow soldiers.
Mel's speech in Braveheart before the battle of Striling is up there too, very moving. Not enough of those these days.
Errol Flynn at the peak of his game, and a true (albeit fictionalized) story of Jim Corbett, the turn of the century boxer. A great running gag in the film is Corbett (Flynn) has himself paged wherever he goes- so people will think him more famous than he is.
Flynn, who could do a manly take on light comedy like it was no one's business- is marvelous.
Enjoy…
chambers - January 28th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Nobody could do a schmaltzy scene with more feeling and heart than Ward Bond. A tough virile man who could also be surprisingly sympathetic and sensitive. Any film he was in (and he was in dozens of great ones) was made better by his presence. Favorite Ward Bond role – Sheriff Perley B. Sweet in "3 Godfathers." I'm going to watch it tonight.
Pullman's speech was okay. It was stirring, but I got annoyed by the whole "We are one people; we can't let these petty differences divide us anymore" line. The UN probably enjoyed it. As you say, though, in this age, even that's better than nothing.
BamaMan - January 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
A guy who could double as a girl with very few modifications/additions.
Raven - January 28th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Thank you. This has always been one of my favorite scenes. Flynn had such a touch.
K. Knightly's speech before the last battle in Pirates of the Caribbean 3 always hits home with me.
no one - January 28th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
see "Edwards, John" – if not found, look under "Breck Girl"
DunkinRegehr - January 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Great point. I predict that if this trend towards wiffty, fey men continues, there'll be a strong backlash where Ernie Borgnine and Fred Flintstone-type guys are gonna be HOT !
DunkinRegehr - January 28th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
….also see " Silky Pony ".
L.B. "Oscar" Mayer - January 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Obama with his slender hands, girlie jeans and field wife.
L.B. "Oscar" Mayer - January 28th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Errol Flynn while best remembered for costume pieces like ROBIN HOOD and SEA HAWKS and ELIZABETH AND ESSEX, also had a fine career in cowboy films and in films like this — a boxing drama.
I read that Errol Flynn watched newsreels of the Sullivan fights in order to copy his signature footwork and fighting style. Now *that* is an actor serious about his craft!
Mark - January 28th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
So Flynn was pretty much the Perez Hilton of his day?
DunkinRegehr - January 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
You're right ! The trolls were craaazy yesterday on BigGovernment !
I think it was an outburst pent-up from getting absolutely CRUSHED last week – between losing "Teddy's" Senate seat to a guy in a pick-up truck, the Supreme Court ruling on Free Speech, the death of Air America radio, CBS approving the Tim Tebow pro-Life Super Bowl ad….
Anticipating the Obamessiah's speech last night drove the true believers into a bloggy frenzy !
Don't hesitate to go back and get more scalps, though. One of us outnumbers 20 dribbler trolls.
Okay, now I have a better understanding as to what was going on yesterday. It has actually carried over into today as I woke to find some more comments added this morning. I made a casual comment on the Tim Tebow ad and boy – it was ON then! I don't generally consider myself a confrontational person, but as that country song from a few years back says, "my redneck side comes out when you get me agitated." What I hate is that they start out making their points, but then it gets to the point where they are basically retorting with "Your momma!"
Squire - January 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
The priest in "The Quiet Man" – my favorite Ward Bond role.
" You'll take the man's hand like I tell you."
" I'll join the Church of England first."
" As if they'd have you! "
Joe Doakes - January 28th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Good men never die.
mars - January 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
this is why i have pretty much stop watching any movies later than say….1965. Our society has become freer, yet immeasureably coarser. There was a time when manners, reserve, decorum, character mattered. Who replaced all the "manly men" with the infantile pretty boys on the screen nowadays. What a loss.
whitedalek - January 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
What is amazing about Flynn's performance was that his body was really worn out by the time this movie was made. I believe the director had to shoot each punch and movement in the ring one at a time because Flynn would get so winded, he would have to sit down and rest.
This scene always moves me when I see this film. It just speaks volumes about 'class.'
Great movie, but most of these comments are nonsensical. Gentleman Jim is about the *contrast* between hyper-masculine Bond and the elegant, somewhat arrogant (and yes, fashion-savvy) character Flynn plays. Stop dumbing Walsh's film down with nostalgic hogwash.
Max H - January 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
"It's a lot tougher to be a good winner". I think President Obama has failed in this.
LightBeerer - January 28th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Flynn's "Gentleman Jim" is proof that elegance, fashion-savvy, and hyper-masculinity can co-exist in a man.
It is the current metrosexual and gay culture who have turned "a sharp-dressed man" into a poof.
heck, even Bill Pullman's speech in 'Independence Day' would suffice now…
steve - January 29th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Yes, but Bond's character needs to be convinced of this, and is initially depicted as defensive of his masculinity. It's not as if the film takes the co-existence as a given.
Okay, I've got to stick to just posting at the "Big Hollywood" site. I made the mistake of posting over on "Big Gov't." yesterday and I've got to say that while I think I can hold my own, there are definitely more trolls over there. LOL!
PolarBeer - January 28th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
You're lucky – My trolls usually START OUT with "Your momma!" ! ; )
whitedalek - January 28th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
How about Bond as the preacher/Captain of the Texas Rangers in The Searchers.
To the young officer played by Patrick Wayne:
"And if you don't hear my first holler, you better read my mind 'cause I don't aim to raise no two hollers on any subject at hand!"
"Watch that knife of your yours, boy!"
"Here Nesby – Take my Bible. It'll make you feel good"
"Thank you Reverend."
Jon - January 29th, 2010 at 5:00 am
Not to mention VERY underrated as an actor.
thiacyn - January 29th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Give me a good strong man in a levi ,white t-shirt,hair messed up and barefooted, oh and a beer! Oh and a rifle, oh and a deer in the back of his pick-up truck, oh and a cig in his mouth, oh and clearly masculine!!! But seriously I love Ward Bond, what an Irishman he was! <3
Jimmy Huero - January 29th, 2010 at 8:20 am
The real Jim Corbett grew up in the San Francisco neighborhood of Hayes Valley. Corbett was the classic tough immigrant kid and was known as the bully of St. Ignatius Schoolyard. Like any practical immigrant kid he had a plan b for his life, he worked in a bank. At night however he indulged the fantasy every guy has, to become the heavyweight champ. Unlike the rest of us, Corbett actually did it. His good looks made him quite a hit with the women. Brains, brawn, & good looks. Some guys get all the luck.
L.B. "Oscar" Mayer - January 29th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Yeah – she does the plantin' and howin' out in the WH garden there. About as ugly as a field worker would be, too.
L.B. "Oscar" Mayer - January 29th, 2010 at 10:30 am
I'm sure the men and women who labor to put food on your table regret not being able to spend more time on their personal appearance…you sound like an effete, elitist snob who's never put his hands in the earth to bring forth abundance! Why such hate for farmers??
DunkinRegehr - January 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I'm not sure, but it works for Groucho Marx, Don Rickles, and Sam Kinison.
steve - January 29th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
What does flippant sarcasm have to do with anything?
Love 'Gentleman Jim'. It is one of my favorite Errol Flynn films….but, I'm a fan who always liked Flynn's early works beginning with 'Captain Blood' and 'The Sea Hawk', 'Robin Hood' and on and on! For the most part, his films always had a wonderful supporting cast..like in this film… with (the wonderful) Ward Bond, Jack Carson, Alexis Smith and everyone else. LIke the other male stars of this period…there hasn't been, and NEVER will be, another Errol Flynn, John Wayne, James Cagney, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant.,Edward G. Robinson,Tyrone Power …and all the others that we're so fortunate to see on TCM and on DVD!
P.S. Tom Selleck is in the same category.
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Nice scene – Ward Bond and Erroll Flynn from "Gentleman Jim". Never seen it and now I would like to.
Respect.
They ran an old NCIS yesterday with Charles During as a WW2 vet in some trouble. An officious officer and two Marines in fatigues come to take him into custody w/o out much fanfare. D'Nozzio moves aside Durning's tie to reveal the Medal of Honor and the 2 Marines instantly snap to attention and salute him. Moved me to tears.
Respect.
There was a time when men were men and women wept and sissies kept their funny business to themselves.
At first I thought that was Anderson Cooper, but upon closer inspecting, realized it wasn't.
Near the end of Braveheart when Mel is being eviscerated. Not his reaction, but the reaction of his compatriots in the crowd always brings a tear to my eye.
Class and decency. Characteristics sorely missing in many parts of our country today…Washington, Hollywood, Chicago, and San Francisco, to name just a few.
Never even heard of it, but now I'm going to netflix it.
Much admirable behavior, character, savoir faire, just doing the right thing is learned and reinforced by observing it and its effects in role models at home in the community and especially in our culture.
As someone who's consumption of today's popular movies, television shows and music has fallen to practically zero I lament the lack of such positive behavior on display and how much of this is at odds with parents' and schools' efforts to cultivate such traits in our children.
I always loved this scene. It stands by itself but with the rest of the movie behind it. It really has punch. No pun intended. You can't go wrong with Errol Flynn or Ward Bond.
Can we get a definitive definition for "metrosexual"? Only because sometimes I get the feeling it's simply used as a placeholder for "actor we don't like."
(Of course, if a guy spends more time on his hair than his wife does, that's self-explanatory.
)
Ward Bond is underappreciated. He made everything he was in better.
Errol Flynn and Ward Bond versus Brad Pitt and Edward Norton.
We've dropped waaay down the ladder of masculine role-models.
Arg. One of my favorite films. I get choked up by that scene every time. Of course, I'm just a 6'2"/220 pound marshmallow man. Even reruns of Lassie, Flipper and Little House get to me anymore. LOL.
Goes directly back to my comment on the Ali thread though: Sportsmanship like that is a beautiful thing, and it's virtually dead today.
Leno and Oprah together…both are scum.
"It wouldn't take many of those to make a dozen."
I intend to steal that line.
There are few scenes that can choke me up like that one. Another one that comes to mind is the scene in Glory where the 54th is marching down to the beach for their assault on Ft. Wagner. They marched between columns of white union soldiers on either side, when one of the white soldiers shouts "GIVE EM HELL 54!!!!" and the rest of the white soldiers erupt in cheers for their fellow soldiers.
Mel's speech in Braveheart before the battle of Striling is up there too, very moving. Not enough of those these days.
"Gentleman Jim' rocks…
Errol Flynn at the peak of his game, and a true (albeit fictionalized) story of Jim Corbett, the turn of the century boxer. A great running gag in the film is Corbett (Flynn) has himself paged wherever he goes- so people will think him more famous than he is.
Flynn, who could do a manly take on light comedy like it was no one's business- is marvelous.
Enjoy…
Nobody could do a schmaltzy scene with more feeling and heart than Ward Bond. A tough virile man who could also be surprisingly sympathetic and sensitive. Any film he was in (and he was in dozens of great ones) was made better by his presence. Favorite Ward Bond role – Sheriff Perley B. Sweet in "3 Godfathers." I'm going to watch it tonight.
Or worse yet, Robert Pattison & Justin Timberlake. Doesn't that make your skin crawl?
Ohhh, don't even bring them up. Those are not men. I occasionally wonder if they're even humans.
Pullman's speech was okay. It was stirring, but I got annoyed by the whole "We are one people; we can't let these petty differences divide us anymore" line. The UN probably enjoyed it. As you say, though, in this age, even that's better than nothing.
A guy who could double as a girl with very few modifications/additions.
Thank you. This has always been one of my favorite scenes. Flynn had such a touch.
K. Knightly's speech before the last battle in Pirates of the Caribbean 3 always hits home with me.
see "Edwards, John" – if not found, look under "Breck Girl"
Great point. I predict that if this trend towards wiffty, fey men continues, there'll be a strong backlash where Ernie Borgnine and Fred Flintstone-type guys are gonna be HOT !
….also see " Silky Pony ".
Obama with his slender hands, girlie jeans and field wife.
Been saving this for a short while-
7lloyd777 (1 month ago)
I'll go back in a HEARTBEAT! Screw 2009, SCREW Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLhOJHg7gWI
I wonder what the population of Haiti will be 9 months from now. He was down there, ya know.
Errol Flynn while best remembered for costume pieces like ROBIN HOOD and SEA HAWKS and ELIZABETH AND ESSEX, also had a fine career in cowboy films and in films like this — a boxing drama.
I read that Errol Flynn watched newsreels of the Sullivan fights in order to copy his signature footwork and fighting style. Now *that* is an actor serious about his craft!
So Flynn was pretty much the Perez Hilton of his day?
You're right ! The trolls were craaazy yesterday on BigGovernment !
I think it was an outburst pent-up from getting absolutely CRUSHED last week – between losing "Teddy's" Senate seat to a guy in a pick-up truck, the Supreme Court ruling on Free Speech, the death of Air America radio, CBS approving the Tim Tebow pro-Life Super Bowl ad….
Anticipating the Obamessiah's speech last night drove the true believers into a bloggy frenzy !
Don't hesitate to go back and get more scalps, though. One of us outnumbers 20 dribbler trolls.
Okay, now I have a better understanding as to what was going on yesterday. It has actually carried over into today as I woke to find some more comments added this morning. I made a casual comment on the Tim Tebow ad and boy – it was ON then!
I don't generally consider myself a confrontational person, but as that country song from a few years back says, "my redneck side comes out when you get me agitated." What I hate is that they start out making their points, but then it gets to the point where they are basically retorting with "Your momma!"
The priest in "The Quiet Man" – my favorite Ward Bond role.
" You'll take the man's hand like I tell you."
" I'll join the Church of England first."
" As if they'd have you! "
Good men never die.
this is why i have pretty much stop watching any movies later than say….1965. Our society has become freer, yet immeasureably coarser. There was a time when manners, reserve, decorum, character mattered. Who replaced all the "manly men" with the infantile pretty boys on the screen nowadays. What a loss.
What is amazing about Flynn's performance was that his body was really worn out by the time this movie was made. I believe the director had to shoot each punch and movement in the ring one at a time because Flynn would get so winded, he would have to sit down and rest.
This scene always moves me when I see this film. It just speaks volumes about 'class.'
Right on!
Great movie, but most of these comments are nonsensical. Gentleman Jim is about the *contrast* between hyper-masculine Bond and the elegant, somewhat arrogant (and yes, fashion-savvy) character Flynn plays. Stop dumbing Walsh's film down with nostalgic hogwash.
"It's a lot tougher to be a good winner". I think President Obama has failed in this.
Flynn's "Gentleman Jim" is proof that elegance, fashion-savvy, and hyper-masculinity can co-exist in a man.
It is the current metrosexual and gay culture who have turned "a sharp-dressed man" into a poof.
heck, even Bill Pullman's speech in 'Independence Day' would suffice now…
Yes, but Bond's character needs to be convinced of this, and is initially depicted as defensive of his masculinity. It's not as if the film takes the co-existence as a given.
Okay, I've got to stick to just posting at the "Big Hollywood" site. I made the mistake of posting over on "Big Gov't." yesterday and I've got to say that while I think I can hold my own, there are definitely more trolls over there. LOL!
You're lucky – My trolls usually START OUT with "Your momma!" ! ; )
How about Bond as the preacher/Captain of the Texas Rangers in The Searchers.
To the young officer played by Patrick Wayne:
"And if you don't hear my first holler, you better read my mind 'cause I don't aim to raise no two hollers on any subject at hand!"
"Watch that knife of your yours, boy!"
Good stuff.
C'mon–Ed Norton's a good actor.
"field wife?"
"Here Nesby – Take my Bible. It'll make you feel good"
"Thank you Reverend."
Not to mention VERY underrated as an actor.
Give me a good strong man in a levi ,white t-shirt,hair messed up and barefooted, oh and a beer! Oh and a rifle, oh and a deer in the back of his pick-up truck, oh and a cig in his mouth, oh and clearly masculine!!! But seriously I love Ward Bond, what an Irishman he was! <3
The real Jim Corbett grew up in the San Francisco neighborhood of Hayes Valley. Corbett was the classic tough immigrant kid and was known as the bully of St. Ignatius Schoolyard. Like any practical immigrant kid he had a plan b for his life, he worked in a bank. At night however he indulged the fantasy every guy has, to become the heavyweight champ. Unlike the rest of us, Corbett actually did it. His good looks made him quite a hit with the women. Brains, brawn, & good looks. Some guys get all the luck.
Yeah – she does the plantin' and howin' out in the WH garden there. About as ugly as a field worker would be, too.
You have a lot of charm, Steve.
I'm sure the men and women who labor to put food on your table regret not being able to spend more time on their personal appearance…you sound like an effete, elitist snob who's never put his hands in the earth to bring forth abundance! Why such hate for farmers??
I'm not sure, but it works for Groucho Marx, Don Rickles, and Sam Kinison.
What does flippant sarcasm have to do with anything?
Fair enough.
Love 'Gentleman Jim'. It is one of my favorite Errol Flynn films….but, I'm a fan who always liked Flynn's early works beginning with 'Captain Blood' and 'The Sea Hawk', 'Robin Hood' and on and on! For the most part, his films always had a wonderful supporting cast..like in this film… with (the wonderful) Ward Bond, Jack Carson, Alexis Smith and everyone else. LIke the other male stars of this period…there hasn't been, and NEVER will be, another Errol Flynn, John Wayne, James Cagney, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant.,Edward G. Robinson,Tyrone Power …and all the others that we're so fortunate to see on TCM and on DVD!
P.S. Tom Selleck is in the same category.
Absolutely!
He was wonderful as the Wagon Master in the old Wagon Train TV series.
That could happen!
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