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Pocahontas.A PC-a-hola-baloola. I am still waiting for the Jamestown adaptation that features the starvation, death, angry indians, poor soil, and, yes, cannibalism. Also, how John Smith single-handedly saved the settlement from extinction would be good too.
If you want a better movie watch Little Mermaid, Lion King* (Best), and Beauty and the Beast are far superior. Heck, Hunchback's songs "Out There" and the haunting "Hellfire" are far superior to anything in Pocahontas.
*Lion King and Pocahontas were being made at about the same time and everyone thought Pocahontas, not Lion King, would be the bigger one. Its good to be the king.
Kit - January 6th, 2010 at 2:54 am
Heck, Ursula, Gaston, and the Amazingly Evil Scar are far more interesting villain than Governor Radcliffe the Evil Greedy White Guy. Scar has and King Claudius-esque envy.
And I am only talking about the Disney Reneissance. Not the Golden Age from the 30s to the early 70s (Queen from Snow White, King John, Captain Hook, ) or the Pixar films (The sadistic Sid)
used to know one of the writers on pocahantas. he was quite proud of the way disney had brought in dozens of academics, anthropologists, and indian activists to consult on the script.
i thought of the scene where pocahantas crawls into a black bear den. pick's up a cub, and sings to it in front of the mother.
who the hell vetted that?
back when dances with wolves first came out someone went through it looking for similarities to F-Troop. it stopped being funny after about twenty plot points.
AVATAR = Birth of a Nation. D.W. Griffth's epic silent that changed movie making. The book BOAN was was based on was called "The Klansman" and it's about the civil war and the subsequent rise of the KKK.. It presents the KKK as necessary, important and heroic as it rises up to kick out the scaliwags and carpetbaggers. Today, the old movie is pretty much an embarrassment for film teachers. AVATAR will eventually come to fulfill the same niche: a leap forward in film technology and technique and an uncomfortable viewing experience.
I saw Avatar at a screening, my X & I both try to screen movies that our son wants to see so we can make an informed decision ourselves on whether to let him see it or if there are some questions that will come up. I had given my take to my X & she decided it was OK for him to see it so they went with some of his friends. I asked him what he thought about it.
He said he even though it had cool special effects but he hated it.
I asked why.
He stated that it was anti-God, anti-military, he felt like it "talked down to me" & that if it wasn't for his friends wanting to see it, he would asked to leave.
Oh, did I mention that he is 81/2.
(yes, I talk a lot about my son. The runt has a better grasp on what is going on than most adults do.)
I'm happy that at 8 years old, your son is capable of thinking for himself and catching on to Cameron's agenda. Things that most folks twice or even three times his age couldn't pick up on.
Good job on raising him.
sauropod - January 6th, 2010 at 4:23 am
I've noticed on other threads that some readers are tired of all the Avatar coverage on BH. Speaking as one reader, I'm enjoying it.
I haven't seen Avatar and I doubt I ever will — not so much because of politics, but because the idea of staring at an animated, glow-in-the-dark Maxfield Parrish painting for two and a half hours doesn't appeal to me.
The movie probably sucks, but the relentless mockery is highly entertaining. More, please!
That is hilarious! If you follow the link, they have some other great comparisons too, like how Harry Potter is just Star Wars. Great reading.
TR3 - January 6th, 2010 at 4:57 am
The Dark Knight made $533 million domestically.
Thus far, Avatar has made $360 million domestically. I don't see Dances with Teletubbies making another $170 million.
Therefor, John Nolte was right – the conservative film will make more money. Yes, yes, I know Avatar's international numbers are off the charts and it's worldwide numbers have surpassed TDK already. But, who gives a flip. International audiences love a good anti-American flick – so they're irrelevant.
Plus, it's two years after TDK. Ticket prices have gone up slighly and of course people are paying $13 a ticket to see Teletubbies in Space in Imax.
TDK also relied on storytelling and had a suprising lack of action sequences. Teletubbies doesn't have a story and has to rely on 3-D, $500 million worth of special effects, and 50 man hours of rendering per frame. I'll stick with Chris Nolan fantastic storytelling. Thank you. Point goes to Nolte.
My nine year-old loved it, saying it was the best movie ever (while staring at the closing credits with her mouth agape). However, in the car on the way home she started picking apart the plot flaws. She loved it in spite of it's mediocre story, which is fine with me. As long as she realizes she's being preached to by an ideologue so she can make up her own mind.
Don't you know that mother bears appreciate it when you pick up their cubs and squeeze them? It's supposed to help produce shiny coats. Ancient Native American wisdom, wasichu!
Blue people don't exist. Or are you saying the Na'vi are the Klan? A little bit of a stretch. BOAN furthered pernicious stereotypes and made heroes out of evildoers while maligning an entire race. The themes of the movie may be embarrassing to film teachers, but no-one can deny the breakthroughs it brought to the medium. It remains to be seen if Avatar's tech will be that groundbreaking.
Quality of the film aside, I don't see how you can possibly call Avatar's $500 million on overseas grosses "irrelevant." I'm sure Coca Cola considers its overseas profits just as legit as its domestic ones.
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mrm-in-wnc - January 6th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
didn't see the movie*, but i'm thinking Disney's nanny lawyers would have put the standard disclaimer on the scene "Do NOT Attempt this with a real bear cub!!!"
*but remember a pretty funny spoof radio ad at the time. something about the 'easy' Indian maiden "Ahontas" and how men would come from miles around to "Poke Ahontas!"…
Bob - January 6th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
This is nothing new. ALL of Cameron's movies are heavily "inspired" by other people's work. The most obvious example is Terminator which he admitted he stole from Harlan Ellison/several Outer Limits episodes. Aliens has a lot of plot taken from the classic 1950's sci fi movie Them! (Mute little girl survivor, heroes going into nest of monsters with flame throwers to find queen and destroy eggs, etc. etc,) Cameron is technically brilliant, but needs to stop "writing" his own projects.
Dustrider - January 6th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
It's also worth noting that after "The Little Mermaid", "Aladdin", "Beauty and the Beast", and "The Lion King", it was the PC crap in "Pocahontas" that began the downward spiral of Disney's 2-D animation department that helped lead to the eventual ouster of Michael Eisner as Disney CEO and the eventual usurpation of Disney's animation crown (and eventual studio takeover) by Pixar, which for the most part has been smart enough to maintain their focus on telling a good story and not trying to implant Blue State socially-correct messages in the audiences' minds (and when they have stepped over that line, it's resulted in their weakest work to date).
"Avatar" gets away with it more because of its groundbreaking special effects than anything contained in the story. But once the newness of the effects wears off, it will be interesting to see if the lesson Hollywood learns from this is that it wasn't that all the anti-American movies of the past five years were failures because of their story lines, but because they just didn't goose the SFX budget high enough (and it will be interesting to see if, once there are 5-10 other movies out there using the same effects as "Avatar" if anyone really wants to watch Cameron's movie over and over again based just on the storyline).
easy - January 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Where do the Chesapeak tribe fall in this story. Pocahontas' dad had a pretty effective way of dealing with them.
What, indeed, will be the take-home message for Hollywood, when the novelty of "Avatar" wears off.
I fear you may be right; instead of fixing the story-lines, they will simply up the SFX.
Kinda like public schooling… instead of going back to the basics, and actually challenging kids, they think that we just need to keep throwing money at the beast.
I was saying it was a rip off of the last Star Trek movie, Nemisis and people looked at me like I was a loon. Enterprise is threatened by the Romulans who have a ship that can destroy planets and no one can stop. The head Romulan has a vendetta again the captain of the enterprise and tries to kill him thus setting off a chain of events that leads the two to meet in a final show down in space.
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Red State Gun Owner - January 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
unfortunately, braindead movie viewers around the world have rewarded Cameron for this crap film by going to see it to the tune of $1B+ in gate receipts. the message to Hollyweird will be to produce more of this sort of crap.
Gail F - January 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Thought I would hate the movie, but I loved it. Actually, Pocahontas is FAR more anti-military, anti-corporate, and pro-New Age religion than Avatar (Avatar's made-up planet actually IS sort of a symbiotic deity that people can "plug into" and no one in the movie says thew viewer should worship it; Pocahontas just spouted a bunch of New Age stuff that was actually supposed to BE wise and spiritual and that, presumably, was supposed ot be embraced by the audience). IMHO the military and corporate folks in the movie came across as a bad unit and a bad company, not as a general indictment — and certainly far less evil than the English folks in Pocahontas. Did I mention how much I don't like Pocahontas? I have been wracking my brain and trying to remember the name of the tree with the nice old lady's face that was always blowing colorful leaves around (how a tree blows leaves around is beyond me) and now I know! Anyway, I give it a thumb's up. Oh, and I hated Titanic.
Don't forget the Avatar as 'Fern Gully – the Last Rainforest' comparison. What was that blond fellow's name? And don't forget the female lead who looks like Evangeline Lilly…
It was the art that got me, the score and songs that got me – not the lame story. Not the dog and the raccoon hate/like relationship. Not the "White People From Over There" bad, natives good.
Frikkin' – I know my history. So leave me alone and let me enjoy my movie in peace. Oh, but "Avatar" still sucks. (Do I get any brownie points for with-all-sincerity hatin' on "Avatar"?)
I can just picture this peice of paper sitting in a drawer on Jimmy Cameron's desk. Good Times!
Tony - January 7th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
camorons' biggest mistake in regards to 'Terminator' is to mention the name harlan ellison as anything. That scum digger trolls all the hollyweird news for any mention of his name so that he can Sue Sue Sue to fill his pockets. He did write some great stories -in the distant Past- that did inspire many other people wise enough to NOT mention where they got their inspiration from.
In regards to camoron "stealing ideas" to make 'Terminator', go rent and see those two episodes for yourself. I saw 'the Demon with a Glass Hand' well before 'Terminator' and went and saw 'the Soldier' afterward. Outside of the idea of Time Traveling… That's IT to tie both shows together. I didn't know ellison has the copyright on the concept of Time Traveling, maybe he should now sue the estate of H. G. Wells for retroactively stealing his brain child too!
Tony - January 7th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Pixar has already leapt into the great known of PC BS with their latest work called 'wall-e'. Even before it was put to screen, I still remember that lame get together of creators dreaming up that tree hugging idea during the making of 'Toy Story'. I am a collector of their works and have most of them now except 'a Bugs Life', their weakest all around story and did buy 'wall-e' on a discounted Blu-ray buy. Looking thru all of its making of.. Not ONE mention about all those LIVE ACTION scenes within.
Yes, it was all in all a love story that drove the plot. But the settings where pure pamp PC BS tree huggery fear mongering thru & thru. I would hope that movie got the hippy out of the creator to never pull this again, but I'm doubting that.
Also, the end of Disneys' revival of animation ended with the death of one of the two creators due to (Aids-HIV-fill in whatever you want to call it now) who made most of the calls in making those movies. In all saying; the "heart" was torn out and filled with many weaker voices trying to bottle that lightning that shown in those four movies.
-SPOILER ALERT-
'The Princess and the Frog' seems to of nailed it somewhat.. but a villain done in by outside forces now? So.. so sad that this is what Americans will be wiling enough to accept now.
JD MIX - January 7th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
OMG! I LAUGHED SO HARD, I NEARLY GOT FIRED… TOO…………..D-MN………………FUNNY!
hlj - January 7th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Note to self: Take someone else's script, change the names and settings, add tits and dated cultural references for idiot audience, strap on huge insufferable ego, budget it at $5B. Success!
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Mark - January 9th, 2010 at 1:44 am
Great article here about conservative whining over Avatar
Cheer up, maybe one day they'll make a movie about getting drunk and shooting things and all of your dreams will come true
Mark - January 9th, 2010 at 1:48 am
It sucks alright
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Mark - January 9th, 2010 at 1:49 am
Sorry Indy I don't any of what you said he said
Jessie - January 9th, 2010 at 1:50 am
WOW, YOU'VE SET A new standard for repulsiveness on this blog. Disgusting. You should be ashamed.
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Awesome! Pretty much sums it up.
I screamed about this from the beginning…!
Nice to see that I was right….
Cameron, be ready to offset Disney's losses this year…
well, guess it gets 'Dances With Wolves' out of the hot seat- for now…
Never saw the 'Pocahontas' thing; but yeah, we can see the similarities now. Let's just say the film is a wonderful potpourri of previous plots.
And watch Cameron clean up at the box office- and the Oscars…
That's the most awesome thing I've read all week!
Pocahontas.A PC-a-hola-baloola. I am still waiting for the Jamestown adaptation that features the starvation, death, angry indians, poor soil, and, yes, cannibalism. Also, how John Smith single-handedly saved the settlement from extinction would be good too.
If you want a better movie watch Little Mermaid, Lion King* (Best), and Beauty and the Beast are far superior. Heck, Hunchback's songs "Out There" and the haunting "Hellfire" are far superior to anything in Pocahontas.
*Lion King and Pocahontas were being made at about the same time and everyone thought Pocahontas, not Lion King, would be the bigger one. Its good to be the king.
Heck, Ursula, Gaston, and the Amazingly Evil Scar are far more interesting villain than Governor Radcliffe the Evil Greedy White Guy. Scar has and King Claudius-esque envy.
And I am only talking about the Disney Reneissance. Not the Golden Age from the 30s to the early 70s (Queen from Snow White, King John, Captain Hook, ) or the Pixar films (The sadistic Sid)
used to know one of the writers on pocahantas. he was quite proud of the way disney had brought in dozens of academics, anthropologists, and indian activists to consult on the script.
i thought of the scene where pocahantas crawls into a black bear den. pick's up a cub, and sings to it in front of the mother.
who the hell vetted that?
back when dances with wolves first came out someone went through it looking for similarities to F-Troop. it stopped being funny after about twenty plot points.
Too funny!
AVATAR = Birth of a Nation. D.W. Griffth's epic silent that changed movie making. The book BOAN was was based on was called "The Klansman" and it's about the civil war and the subsequent rise of the KKK.. It presents the KKK as necessary, important and heroic as it rises up to kick out the scaliwags and carpetbaggers. Today, the old movie is pretty much an embarrassment for film teachers. AVATAR will eventually come to fulfill the same niche: a leap forward in film technology and technique and an uncomfortable viewing experience.
This is fabulous! My stomach hurts from laughing.
I saw Avatar at a screening, my X & I both try to screen movies that our son wants to see so we can make an informed decision ourselves on whether to let him see it or if there are some questions that will come up. I had given my take to my X & she decided it was OK for him to see it so they went with some of his friends. I asked him what he thought about it.
He said he even though it had cool special effects but he hated it.
I asked why.
He stated that it was anti-God, anti-military, he felt like it "talked down to me" & that if it wasn't for his friends wanting to see it, he would asked to leave.
Oh, did I mention that he is 81/2.
(yes, I talk a lot about my son. The runt has a better grasp on what is going on than most adults do.)
And everyone learned to co-exist and live happily ever after……YUK!
I'm happy that at 8 years old, your son is capable of thinking for himself and catching on to Cameron's agenda. Things that most folks twice or even three times his age couldn't pick up on.
Good job on raising him.
I've noticed on other threads that some readers are tired of all the Avatar coverage on BH. Speaking as one reader, I'm enjoying it.
I haven't seen Avatar and I doubt I ever will — not so much because of politics, but because the idea of staring at an animated, glow-in-the-dark Maxfield Parrish painting for two and a half hours doesn't appeal to me.
The movie probably sucks, but the relentless mockery is highly entertaining. More, please!
Sounds like the boy is pretty bright. Keep up the good work
That is hilarious! If you follow the link, they have some other great comparisons too, like how Harry Potter is just Star Wars. Great reading.
The Dark Knight made $533 million domestically.
Thus far, Avatar has made $360 million domestically. I don't see Dances with Teletubbies making another $170 million.
Therefor, John Nolte was right – the conservative film will make more money. Yes, yes, I know Avatar's international numbers are off the charts and it's worldwide numbers have surpassed TDK already. But, who gives a flip. International audiences love a good anti-American flick – so they're irrelevant.
Plus, it's two years after TDK. Ticket prices have gone up slighly and of course people are paying $13 a ticket to see Teletubbies in Space in Imax.
TDK also relied on storytelling and had a suprising lack of action sequences. Teletubbies doesn't have a story and has to rely on 3-D, $500 million worth of special effects, and 50 man hours of rendering per frame. I'll stick with Chris Nolan fantastic storytelling. Thank you. Point goes to Nolte.
My nine year-old loved it, saying it was the best movie ever (while staring at the closing credits with her mouth agape). However, in the car on the way home she started picking apart the plot flaws. She loved it in spite of it's mediocre story, which is fine with me. As long as she realizes she's being preached to by an ideologue so she can make up her own mind.
Don't you know that mother bears appreciate it when you pick up their cubs and squeeze them? It's supposed to help produce shiny coats. Ancient Native American wisdom, wasichu!
Blue people don't exist. Or are you saying the Na'vi are the Klan? A little bit of a stretch. BOAN furthered pernicious stereotypes and made heroes out of evildoers while maligning an entire race. The themes of the movie may be embarrassing to film teachers, but no-one can deny the breakthroughs it brought to the medium. It remains to be seen if Avatar's tech will be that groundbreaking.
Yeah…like THAT could ever happen in real life!
Quality of the film aside, I don't see how you can possibly call Avatar's $500 million on overseas grosses "irrelevant." I'm sure Coca Cola considers its overseas profits just as legit as its domestic ones.
hippies have all the vitamins and nutrition a growing bear needs.
LOL! Good one!
hahahahaHAHAHAH! that's very good!
That's the most awesome thing I've read all week!
Pocahontas was the first thing that leapt to mind when I first heard the basic outline of Avatar.
If Cameron is original about anything, it's the pioneering of Smurferotica.
[...] here to see the original: How Disney’s ‘Pocahontas’ Became ‘Avatar’ This entry is filed under America – Blogs, Big Hollywood. You can follow any responses to this [...]
didn't see the movie*, but i'm thinking Disney's nanny lawyers would have put the standard disclaimer on the scene "Do NOT Attempt this with a real bear cub!!!"
*but remember a pretty funny spoof radio ad at the time. something about the 'easy' Indian maiden "Ahontas" and how men would come from miles around to "Poke Ahontas!"…
This is nothing new. ALL of Cameron's movies are heavily "inspired" by other people's work. The most obvious example is Terminator which he admitted he stole from Harlan Ellison/several Outer Limits episodes. Aliens has a lot of plot taken from the classic 1950's sci fi movie Them! (Mute little girl survivor, heroes going into nest of monsters with flame throwers to find queen and destroy eggs, etc. etc,) Cameron is technically brilliant, but needs to stop "writing" his own projects.
It's also worth noting that after "The Little Mermaid", "Aladdin", "Beauty and the Beast", and "The Lion King", it was the PC crap in "Pocahontas" that began the downward spiral of Disney's 2-D animation department that helped lead to the eventual ouster of Michael Eisner as Disney CEO and the eventual usurpation of Disney's animation crown (and eventual studio takeover) by Pixar, which for the most part has been smart enough to maintain their focus on telling a good story and not trying to implant Blue State socially-correct messages in the audiences' minds (and when they have stepped over that line, it's resulted in their weakest work to date).
"Avatar" gets away with it more because of its groundbreaking special effects than anything contained in the story. But once the newness of the effects wears off, it will be interesting to see if the lesson Hollywood learns from this is that it wasn't that all the anti-American movies of the past five years were failures because of their story lines, but because they just didn't goose the SFX budget high enough (and it will be interesting to see if, once there are 5-10 other movies out there using the same effects as "Avatar" if anyone really wants to watch Cameron's movie over and over again based just on the storyline).
Where do the Chesapeak tribe fall in this story. Pocahontas' dad had a pretty effective way of dealing with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_(tribe)
Excellent observation, Dustrider.
What, indeed, will be the take-home message for Hollywood, when the novelty of "Avatar" wears off.
I fear you may be right; instead of fixing the story-lines, they will simply up the SFX.
Kinda like public schooling… instead of going back to the basics, and actually challenging kids, they think that we just need to keep throwing money at the beast.
Ciao.
SMURFAHONTAS!
LMAO
I was saying it was a rip off of the last Star Trek movie, Nemisis and people looked at me like I was a loon. Enterprise is threatened by the Romulans who have a ship that can destroy planets and no one can stop. The head Romulan has a vendetta again the captain of the enterprise and tries to kill him thus setting off a chain of events that leads the two to meet in a final show down in space.
Ah, but if they had only screamed "shoot the antennae!" in Aliens.
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unfortunately, braindead movie viewers around the world have rewarded Cameron for this crap film by going to see it to the tune of $1B+ in gate receipts. the message to Hollyweird will be to produce more of this sort of crap.
Thought I would hate the movie, but I loved it. Actually, Pocahontas is FAR more anti-military, anti-corporate, and pro-New Age religion than Avatar (Avatar's made-up planet actually IS sort of a symbiotic deity that people can "plug into" and no one in the movie says thew viewer should worship it; Pocahontas just spouted a bunch of New Age stuff that was actually supposed to BE wise and spiritual and that, presumably, was supposed ot be embraced by the audience). IMHO the military and corporate folks in the movie came across as a bad unit and a bad company, not as a general indictment — and certainly far less evil than the English folks in Pocahontas. Did I mention how much I don't like Pocahontas? I have been wracking my brain and trying to remember the name of the tree with the nice old lady's face that was always blowing colorful leaves around (how a tree blows leaves around is beyond me) and now I know! Anyway, I give it a thumb's up. Oh, and I hated Titanic.
"Dances with Smurfs"
Retweeted for extreme truthiness.
Don't forget the Avatar as 'Fern Gully – the Last Rainforest' comparison. What was that blond fellow's name? And don't forget the female lead who looks like Evangeline Lilly…
Before you go praising the Lion King see: http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
so there's THAT…
Hi, Everyone!
I liked "Pocahontas".
It was the art that got me, the score and songs that got me – not the lame story. Not the dog and the raccoon hate/like relationship. Not the "White People From Over There" bad, natives good.
Frikkin' – I know my history. So leave me alone and let me enjoy my movie in peace. Oh, but "Avatar" still sucks. (Do I get any brownie points for with-all-sincerity hatin' on "Avatar"?)
Disney sues at the drop of a hat, so it's going to be interesting to see if they do anything about this.
I refuse to see a re-make of "Ferngully"…Unobtainium.. WTF?? Is this for real?
You know, I have never seen Titanic either, and I am a total movie buff.. Netflix is in my PO box every week!
I must be getting old, as I miss REAL actors, actually acting!
at about the same time disney was airbrushing the cigarettes out of all the old pecos bill cartoons.
I can just picture this peice of paper sitting in a drawer on Jimmy Cameron's desk. Good Times!
camorons' biggest mistake in regards to 'Terminator' is to mention the name harlan ellison as anything. That scum digger trolls all the hollyweird news for any mention of his name so that he can Sue Sue Sue to fill his pockets. He did write some great stories -in the distant Past- that did inspire many other people wise enough to NOT mention where they got their inspiration from.
In regards to camoron "stealing ideas" to make 'Terminator', go rent and see those two episodes for yourself. I saw 'the Demon with a Glass Hand' well before 'Terminator' and went and saw 'the Soldier' afterward. Outside of the idea of Time Traveling… That's IT to tie both shows together. I didn't know ellison has the copyright on the concept of Time Traveling, maybe he should now sue the estate of H. G. Wells for retroactively stealing his brain child too!
Pixar has already leapt into the great known of PC BS with their latest work called 'wall-e'. Even before it was put to screen, I still remember that lame get together of creators dreaming up that tree hugging idea during the making of 'Toy Story'. I am a collector of their works and have most of them now except 'a Bugs Life', their weakest all around story and did buy 'wall-e' on a discounted Blu-ray buy. Looking thru all of its making of.. Not ONE mention about all those LIVE ACTION scenes within.
Yes, it was all in all a love story that drove the plot. But the settings where pure pamp PC BS tree huggery fear mongering thru & thru. I would hope that movie got the hippy out of the creator to never pull this again, but I'm doubting that.
Also, the end of Disneys' revival of animation ended with the death of one of the two creators due to (Aids-HIV-fill in whatever you want to call it now) who made most of the calls in making those movies. In all saying; the "heart" was torn out and filled with many weaker voices trying to bottle that lightning that shown in those four movies.
-SPOILER ALERT-
'The Princess and the Frog' seems to of nailed it somewhat.. but a villain done in by outside forces now? So.. so sad that this is what Americans will be wiling enough to accept now.
OMG! I LAUGHED SO HARD, I NEARLY GOT FIRED… TOO…………..D-MN………………FUNNY!
Note to self: Take someone else's script, change the names and settings, add tits and dated cultural references for idiot audience, strap on huge insufferable ego, budget it at $5B. Success!
[...] visually dazzling remake of Disney’s Pocahontas (see plot summary below the fold – h/t Big Hollywood). Disney’s James Cameron’s Pocahontas Avatar In 1607 2154, a ship carrying Johnake [...]
Great article here about conservative whining over Avatar
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/...
Make that 800 million.
Red State Gun Owner
Cheer up, maybe one day they'll make a movie about getting drunk and shooting things and all of your dreams will come true
It sucks alright
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Sorry Indy I don't any of what you said he said
WOW, YOU'VE SET A new standard for repulsiveness on this blog. Disgusting. You should be ashamed.
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