Easterbrook: ‘Avatar’ Trashes America and the Marines
by Big HollywoodVia the Corner, comes this excellent analysis [emphasis added]:
If I were a military man or woman, I would find “Avatar” insulting. With one exception, the helicopter pilot played by Michelle Rodriguez — her character is twice referred to as a Marine, suggesting the military personnel are regular military, not mercenaries — all the people in fatigues are brainless sadists. They want to kill, kill, kill the innocent. They can’t wait to begin the next atrocity.
They can’t wait to begin the next atrocity. It’s true that the U.S. military has conducted atrocities, in Vietnam and during the Plains Indians wars. But slaughter of the innocent is rare in U.S. military annals. In “Avatar,” it’s the norm. The bloodthirsty military personnel readily comply with the colonel’s orders to gun down natives. No one questions him — though in martial law, a soldier not only may but must refuse an illegal order. Plus the military personnel are depicted as such utter morons — not a brain in any of their heads — that none notice the TOTALLY OBVIOUS detail that Pandora’s unusual biology will be worth more than its minerals. Yes, movies traffic in absurd super-simplifications. But we’re supposed to accept that of the deployment of several hundred, every soldier save one is a low-IQ cold-blooded murderer. …
And who are the gun-toting fatigue-clad personnel commanded by the ultra-evil Colonel Quaritch — are they regular military, mercenaries, private security contractors? Audiences never find out. They’re just a bunch of trigger-happy killers who want to slaughter intelligent beings, and all of them but one do exactly what Colonel Quaritch says, even once it’s clear Quaritch is insane. The colonel must work for somebody — for the Pentagon, some government agency, for the corporation. So why isn’t he subject to supervision? No organization would entrust a project costing trillions of dollars — a town-sized facility has been built five light-years away — to a single individual with unchecked power. You’d worry that the single individual would commit some huge blunder that wiped out your trillion-dollar investment, which ends up being exactly what happens. I found the colonel with absolute authority a lot more unrealistic than the floating mountains.
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I wrote about this as well last week:
http://thedumberox.blogspot.com/2009/12/avatar-an...
From everything I can tell we're supposed to associate these soldiers with U.S. Marines. Not only is it insulting … its strains even the suspension of disbelief.
well, we got the idea they are former military- civilian contractors- but the film plays a little fast and loose with the details. The hardware they have is obviously military grade but lacks the requisite service/unit emblems.
Other than the USMC tee on Sully we didn't see any other obvious markings. Of course, when you have to keep stuffing your eyes in your head every few minutes your bound to miss something…
Perhaps someone else noticed something they'd like to share…
It's called bad writing. It's also derivative as hell.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/04/lol-james-cam...
Why wouldn't they just pay the nav'ie? Or I don't maybe help them, trade with them to get that little rock. Hi where the humans we have great technology maybe we can help you get a better life. Like O I don't know clean water. Communications, Medical help. Frick I could think of 20 things off the top of my head that they could use.
everything Jim cameron has EVER done is at least 'derivative', if not outright theivery. Ask Harlan Ellison…
President Reagan once said "Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." I whole heartedly agree. Semper Fi!
At the beginning of the movie, as Jake is rolling across the tarmac on Pandora, the voiceover says something very close to "but these were real Marines, just hired guns, here to make big money."
Somehow that, the Colonel saying he "used to be" 1MEF, the lack of military insignias, the way these folks are referring to the Corporation, and so on never quite connects for a lot of people primed to go in and see it as Evil Lefties.
As far as the US Military never committing atrocities against indigenous populations, well, I'm a Choctaw with Cherokee blood as well. Tell it to my ancestors.
that is awesome!
Good thing Avatar's seditious anti-Americanism is getting more attention. At the movie’s nadir – former US Marines destroy a civilization’s iconic tower by shooting missiles into its base and then watching it topple – it becomes clear that James Cameron has foisted an obscene world on us in which 9/11 is fodder for popcorn propaganda. Nothing if not brilliantly calculating, he must figure that global audiences will be enticed to buy tickets for the privilege to jeer Americans.
My full review here: http://www.wikpik.com/movie_reviews/2125-avatar
Sully was a Marine, but the early voice over clearly says the other soldiers _used_ to be military, but now are hired guns for the corporation.
The Na'vi seemed to have plenty of food, water, appear ridiculously healthy and can literally hard wire themselves into their planet and all its beasties. It is referenced that the corporation has nothing they want, hence they haven't been able to trade with them. But asothers have pointed out, if the corporation is so evil, they would have just bombed the Na'vi off the planet to begin with.
he had to give the man screen credits in subsequent releases of 'Terminator'. The Outer Limits episodes he 'sampled' were 'Soldier' with Michael Ansara and 'The Glass Hand' with Robert Culp. He is a knob twister, a technocrat.
Not a very good- or original writer…
everybody has committed atrocities against everyone else. It's called human failings…
that too, is our take…
In any case, too much thinking about Avatar makes the whole pretty house of cards collapse…I enjoyed it, but it's all icing and very little cake, not worth all the attention Big Hollywood is giving it…they're gonna have to rename it "Big Avatar" soon…
well, you gotta admit it is the 800 pound gorilla in the movie theater- and will be for some time it seems…
True, but–and I say this with all love and respect–the site is basically running the same article about it over and over. No matter how profitable and 'game changing' it just…doesn't seem worth all the fuss.
maybe it will all magically go away! We are weary of it as well…
Where in the movie are the words America or United States uttered?
Yeah, if the comparison to the Native Americans were realistic, the Na'Vi would lead hard lives, suffer from numerous diseases endemic to the continent before the Europeans arrived, and they would be eager to trade unobtanium with the corporation in exchange for military hardware, probably to use against the other tribes of Na'Vi on planet.
Didn't hear many British, Bengali, Japanese or French accents among the mercenaries.
Moreover, Avatar is clearly "inspired" by Poul Anderson's 1957 novella "Call Me Joe," a story voted one of the all-time best by the SF Writers of America.
"Call Me Joe" features a wheelchair-bound paraplegic who travels to a space station orbiting Jupiter, where, with the help of super-advanced technology, his psyche is projected into a specially bio-engineered alien body. The alien is deposited on Jupiter's surface, an environment hostile to human life; the human controller experiences life on the planet vicariously via the alien, fighting desperate battles against the indigenous fauna. Gradually the human becomes more and more attached to his alien body, and eventually his psyche abandons his human body and takes up permanent residence in the alien body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe
The lawyers for Anderson's estate must be comatose. This is easily a multi-million dollar settlement, but as far as I know, no one is pursuing it.
Incidentally, Anderson also wrote a well-known SF novel titled Avatar. I guess Cameron had Anderson's entire oeuvre in mind …
THEY HAVE ALWAYS HATED US. WE HAVEN'T HAD A FRIEND IN HOLLYWOOD SINCE JOHN WAYNE DIED.
Not true. We have Gary Sinise (among others).
Not only is the right-wing hard-wired without a sense of humor, you people are callous and hard-hearted as well.
The bones of pre-Columbian natives tell a different story. These were people riddled with disease (something normal just about every human population on the planet). They suffered from numerous parasites, had sexually transmitted diseases of their very own (European STDs and their STDs were about the first thing traded freely between the two cultures) and in general had the same problems most pre-industrial peoples do.
One thing I would be skeptical about is the early European accounts of the natives. If I were a Genoese explorer out to sell the Spanish crown on funding more voyages to America, I probably volunteer more of the less savory aspects of native life.
In short, I'm not saying the European introduced diseases didn't decimate the native Americans, as people with no pre-existing immunity to them, they did. But America definitely wasn't paradise before the coming of the Europeans.
And there was me thinking it was tribute to the overwhelming superiority of militarily aggressive capitalism over tree hugging pacifism.
They were mercenaries. Jake, the one Marine, did the right thing. It was very pro military, pro property rights, pro marines.
There are glaring problems with this writers understanding of the landscape of the story. This was not a government driven militia that was sent to Pandora, but a corporate-based operation. The corporation has no checks and balances, and it is not a government represented by a body of people. The corporate mercenaries are given orders and if … See Morethey do not carry out the orders that they are given, there is nothing preventing this corporation from simply forgetting to feed them oxygen on their 5 year hyper-sleep return trip to Earth. They comply because they are paid to comply and they have no choice. To challenge their orders, as some of the characters do, is grounds for execution. The writer doesn't understand that in the context of the story, the corporation can buy and sell the military forces that they employ, and there is no Pentagon or government agenda that is accountable to a body of people. The corporation has complete autonomy. They attempt a peaceful solution to their dilemma and then reveal to the audience that the corporation will stop at nothing for this profit, and go beyond peaceful means to obtain their goal. This is just a story setup to illustrate that this does happen in the real world and corporations operate above the law every day. This is not about painting the united states armed forces or any other countries military in a jarhead-moronic light. They completely missed the context. Disappointing.
Also, they speak a lot about the insane Colonel that heads the military forces in Avatar, but never comment about the corporate executive, played by Giovanni Ribisi, who clearly has the final authority on all actions in the film. He continues to press the Colonel to carry out his company orders. The parallel that I find very realistic is that this Colonel has no ability to see past the military agenda and see the big picture. This does not make him a moronic character, or bloodthirsty. He is even given dialogue about keeping the native casualties to a minimum, but clearly we know that he is just posturing to get his way and have another notch on his belt, by using military means to pave the way for a successful mission. That kind of thinking does exist in military minds that are groomed their entire life to see only the final goal and nothing more. Clearly they did not paint the rest of the mercenaries as mindless killers, but there were a few. The majority of military soldiers appeared to simply be following orders and too afraid to question them in the moment. This doesn't alter my view of any person in the present-day armed forces at all.
The problem is that today this image is now the only image of the US Military. Hollywood has an agenda to piss on the very people that allow these malcontents to make these big huge pieces of crap. For every film that attacks the evil of the US Military can we have one that honors them? Kind of make if fair?
As far as your Indian ancestors being killed by the US military, Many settlers were killed by the Indians. The indians did a job on each other long before the evil white man came over to America. The Cheyenne word for enemy is Sioux after the lakota drove them out of the ancient lands of the dakota which were Cheyenne lands.
Then again the Romans kicked everyone's asses for a 1000 years. The Brits killed the Irish for centuries and the Irish and Scots killed the English. This is what we humans do, we kill each other for land, money, women, gold. What people don't understand is that no one owns land, it belongs to the person who conquers it and holds on to it. If a billion Red Chinese cross over the Berring and take over America, guess what , this is China colony. This is the same play acted out since the beginning of time. No one holds the title of butcher, the entire race has had its share of blood.
you leftist malcontents taught is well. After listening to the left piss and moan since 1900 how America sucks, it rubs off and we give it back. Why can't you take it when you have been dishing it out for decades?? What is the problem? Why can't we have the kind of films you hate as we love. Why is it always your bullshit up on those screens year in and year out. Are you afraid of a different point of view? Since the early 70s Hollywood has pissed on everything this country stood for in past generations. We has to sit in a theater and be lectured by assholes like Sean Penn and we can't get to rebuttal.
Then one day Mel Gibson makes THE PASSION and the entire cult of leftist malcontents shit their pants for a year over the only film about Christ and Mel doesn't show him having sex with Mary M. You liberals who preach tolerance lost your minds. You only tolerate people who agree with you. Any other opinion you attack if the producers were war criminals.
So when we see a film that is a total piece is shit, it is out turn to piss on your scared cows, since you people taught us so well.
Avatar is the same crap that came out of Hollywood in the 70s when they made Coming Home with that traitor Jane Fonda. Its the same message with new tricks to wow the kiddies and the brain dead. Hollywood has an agenda that is why all we see is the same old freaking diarrhea coming out of that hole called liberal Hollywood. They don't even have the balls to allow one pro American veteran film out there and give it an equal playing field. They have no guts or belief in their propaganda bullshit to allow any film that shows Americans as heroes.
They all blew a head gasket for one year over THE PASSION which in turned put Mel over the billion dollar mark. I would have sent all the big mouths that went after the film huge bouquet of flowers, you know the kind we all see at those Chicago mob funerals in the 1920s.
The leftist cult members that run Hollywood have rigged the game, like the Casino business in Vegas the house always wins. These gutless phonies of tolerance will not allow a pro American film out there to counteract Avatar. Or any film that disproves global warming, or shows the Vietnam Veterans as heroes. After all according to Oliver Stone everyday in Nam was a Mai Lai and the VC were just innocent monks praying in their temples.
Hollywood hasn't the DAMN BALLS to fund conservative filmmaker like myself who will take on their propaganda crap and expose it for what it is. They spent 500 million on this blue man show in the jungle , hell with that kind of money, I'd set up a motion picture studio and crank out 1000s of films going after everything the religion of liberalism preaches just to make it a fair playing ground. There is a vast pool of conservative talent out here ready to work and make this number of films if the funding was made to us as easy it is for the leftist malcontents that hate America, but LOVE its money and fame it provides.
There is one little low budget film out there that shows the Vietnam Vets as heroes, there are no F-bombs in the film and it will make you feel proud to be an American. Hollywood made sure this little nothing film never got picked up for the past twenty years because they can't afford to have anything out there to put doubt in the minds of any kids out there. So now I am selling it directly to the public. You want to see Marines as heroes on a mission in Vietnam then support FORGOTTEN HEROES. This film is the opposite of this huge piece of garbage called Avatar. You tired of being insulted by the Hollywood left, then stop giving them money and throw it towards a film like FORGOTTEN HEROES http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com President Bush liked it not a bad endorsement for a film that Hollywood refuse to pick up. I don't care what the libtards think of it or that Bush gave me a plug. I made this film for the Vietnam Vets and their families all 8.3 million of them
Really! How should I feel then, huh? I was born and raised in a military family to respect the men and women who have laid down their lives so I could have a chance at freedom. For God sakes I have ancestors that have been fighting for this country since the Revolution. So excuse me if I don't jump for joy over a movie that depicts our troops like a bunch of knuckle-dragging troglodytes and then proceeds to brutally massacring them. What does it say about me if I were to cheer for this movie even though my father is a retired veteran and my brothers are both serving.
So you SIR need to drop the pitcher and stop drinking the Kool-Aid!
But what I find the most disturbing of all is that you think the deaths of American soldiers is "humor". So I come to the conclusion that it is not I who plays a role into the problem of this country… that role belongs to you.
Sincerely and Respectively,
NoobieKid
You want "good pro-American" movies check out anything in black and white. Government approved entertainment …horrifically chopped into sanitized, wholesome sludge. Most of it sucked.
Avatar wasn't about government, it was about greed. Was Goonies pro-American or anti-Italian. Was ET about illegal immigration? Is Indiana Jones an Archeologist or a grave robber. You only find what you take with you…
I don't think you saw it, or you'd realize it wasn't boring.
John Wayne's real name is Marion. And he smoked dope.
Yes, it's very RARE, considering the death tolls in Iraq for civilians. How stupid are you? I don't mean to insult, but you're either stupid, or willfully ignorant. Neither seem like the best option.
Your mother Marion's real name was John. And he smoked pole.
Don't deny that Sinise and others do some good works, but when have you seen anyone in Hellywood go out and make a pro-US war movie like Sands of Iwo Jima or such? JW was an unabashed patriot – especially on screen. So many these days will cuddle troopies and do the talk circuit, but they don't make those, "We didn't start this fight, but we're gonna win it and kill Japs, too" movies that were as propagandistically one-sided in favor of the US as later boneheads (O-Liver Stoned, etc.) made against the US.
That's my point. Where's the love on the big screen?
I would suggest reading "1491" by Charles Mann. It might disabuse you of some of your incorrect statements that you just made. The initial settlers were quite astonished at the health and longevity of the Native Americans they 1st encountered. It was the European diseases that scourged them and created the "vast wilderness" that later explorers found.
http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-B...
I think that I remember hearing in the movie the soldiers were there for the money. To me that implies ex-military Private Contractors.
Also did anyone else notice that pretty much all of the soldiers and evil humans were white males?
and that they got their ass handed to them by an Indian, a black chick and a cripple.
because Hollywood hates america.
I loved the movie but thought the same thing. That was the only bad thing about the movie. Oh yeah, Sugourney Weaver is not in my top 500 either, she reminds me of Nancy Pelosi. Nothing new for Hollywood though.
There are glaring problems with this writers understanding of the landscape of the story. This was not a government driven militia that was sent to Pandora, but a corporate-based operation. The corporation has no checks and balances, and it is not a government represented by a body of people. The corporate mercenaries are given orders and if … See Morethey do not carry out the orders that they are given, there is nothing preventing this corporation from simply forgetting to feed them oxygen on their 5 year hyper-sleep return trip to Earth. They comply because they are paid to comply and they have no choice. To challenge their orders, as some of the characters do, is grounds for execution. The writer doesn't understand that in the context of the story, the corporation can buy and sell the military forces that they employ, and there is no Pentagon or government agenda that is accountable to a body of people. The corporation has complete autonomy. They attempt a peaceful solution to their dilemma and then reveal to the audience that the corporation will stop at nothing for this profit, and go beyond peaceful means to obtain their goal. This is just a story setup to illustrate that this does happen in the real world and corporations operate above the law every day. This is not about painting the united states armed forces or any other countries military in a jarhead-moronic light. They completely missed the context. Disappointing.
thanks for the lesson…
loved Poul Anderson's stuff as kids; a particulalry good short story about a US Army MP being transported back in time to Viking days (with his jeep!) caused us to make an 8mm film of it.
Funny, it was the first story of it's type we ever read and it too, has been 'reinterpreted' many times.
He, and Heinlein have been ripped off more than the US taxpayer…
So let me see if I have this correct.
The "evil" PROFIT loving corporation and the "crazed" "trigger happy" mercs instead of going out and mining one of the flying mountains full of non occupied "Unobtainium"; engage in a high casualty, close quarters, EXPENSIVE, firefight with the locals.
IOW, the Corporation isn't really interested in PROFIT and the Mercenaries aren't really that MERCENARY (high pay, no combat).
Sounds confused to me.
Chiracahua Apache, The Mexican Government tried to eradicate my people and we fought the US Army to a stand still, but both sides committed acts of brutality.
Those who think Native Peoples are simply non violent hand holding communities have never truly looked into the cultures of those societies. Native Americans wiped out other tribes, raped and abducted women, took captives as slaves and massacred men, women and children. None were without taint or pure of heart, they simply did it on a smaller scale than their european adversaries.
Black African tribes have been butchering each other since before recorded civilization and continue to present day, so where is this tribal spirit and oneness? The bigger insult is that only european based cultures are deemed evil and blood thirsty.
Jack, I'm confused, why isn't the money available to make good pro-American movies?
Here, hear, Aleric. The native aboriginals here were so primitive that while Europe was building the Sistine Chapel and Shakespeare was walking the boards of Stratford-on-Avon, the natives were doing the same things they'd been doing for millenium — hunting with sticks and gathering nuts and killing each other when they happened across one another.
Of course once the Europeans found America, the smart natives (including some of my own ancestors) figured out really quickly that civilization is a lot better than sitting in a cave chewing on old buffalo. I give you as a prime example Todd Palin, Yipik Indian, who races snow machines, flies a bush plane, works on the oil fields and snogs with the beautiful and accomplished Sarah. Now that's a smart man.
Here is my suggestion for the Avatar sequel:
Unobtainium is found in the Gobi desert but world leader Albert Hussein refuses to exploit it because that would endanger a protected species of desert mouse. Instead nations are forced to trade with the Navi. A Russian-Chinese consortium is found out to have illegally sold drugs and weapons to a renegade Navi tribe that was cut off from the great mother for some transgression (you might even say they killed God) and wants to get back at all the other beings on Pandora by killing or dominating them. Now that sounds like an interesting premise with modern-day overtones to me.
And then our group of ass-kicking heros come in to clean house and save Pandora. They are said to be "mercenaries" but that is just a smokescreen for deniability – they´re really Americans. And their Avatars look like Sly Stallone, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, Kurt Russell and Mel Gibson circa 1985. It´s the best CGI ever!
If you really cared, you would have taken the time to find out that most Iraqi civilians were not even collateral damage, they were killed by our enemies. In other words, the people we were fighting. WE weren´t setting of car bombs on marketplaces, you dumbass.
"The corporation has complete autonomy."
That is easy to write, but that is one thing no real-world corporation has. What they have in the real world is vast legal and pr departments. Because they are faraid. So you want to ask yourself:
WHY IS THIS THE ONLY BIG AMERICAN CORPORATION WITHOUT A VAST LEGAL DEPARTMENT?
And this "corporation" – how did they get there? Do they have a licence to exploit minerals? Was there a bidding process? They have their own spaceships or do they charter them? Who else has spaceships, like any governments or news organisations? Do they report to the Earth embassy on Pandora? Why isn´t there one? WHERE ARE THE CHINESE? We discover alien intelligent life and only one small corporation science team gets to deal with it?
You´re right. You really have to think it through to see how moronic it is.
But your view seems to be a very condescending one, so that doesn´t really help your argument.
Dental problems? Did I miss the old, toothless Navi?
Marion, as in Francis Marion, AKA "The Swamp Fox." Revolutionary War guerilla. It's a manly name.
Next Halloween, I'm going as Evil White Guy in a Suit.
They could have gone in to much greater detail to explain this autonomy, but in the context of the story it was apparently not relevant enough to explain. You are correct, in many comic books and sci-fi future timelines, corporations are above the law because corporations appear to be more powerful in some cases than world governments. This is a staple of science fiction and I've learned to just live with it. It's fine if everyone else hasn't.
Even by current day standards we are seeing more private corporations involved in the space program than ever before, and this could be a future trend. I do not know who else has space ships or who else is travelling to Pandora, other than this corporation.
They did illustrate that the corporation has spend billions in the attempt to grow avatars to facilitate a peaceful settlement to the situation, and avoid conflict. The corporation is cognizant of the repercussions for forceful engagement of the natives but decides it is a calculated risk that it is willing to take to achieve their goal. They will obviously cover their tracks with lies and false reports. Also, they have this autonomy because they are 5 light years away and they can do whatever they want and give whatever story they want when they get home. Someone may investigate it, but will they even be able to prove anything?
We discover alien life in this time line and only one small corporation science team gets to deal with it, because perhaps they are the only corporation with the finances to do so.
You're right that this does not reflect our current political framework but the leaps of logic aren't as far fetched as most of sci-fi. It is a leap, but not something that isn't totally impossible.
I am also not interested in the agendas of Liberal Hollywood, so I see some of the undertones that were unnecessary, but I also think the film was good in spite of these things.
I wasn't intending to be condescending, just illustrate my view. I think the writer of this article paints such a vivid picture with "kill kill kill" and bloodthirsty mental imagery, and that was simply not at all what I experienced. The avatars themselves wouldnt even exist if that was the corporations end game all along. They did attempt other means of negotiation, but as circumstances developed and greedy executives painted themselves into a corner, they made the call and escalated the conflict to devastating levels.
I think the parallels of greed were very well illustrated within the context of the story and sometimes we have real life situations where the stronger power makes decisions for the rest of us and it isn't always the right one. I would be open to alterations in the movie, but I don't see eye to eye with this assessment of it. I also totally disagree with this painting the American military as idiots and bloodthirsty killers.
If that WAS Camerons intent, he failed for me. I honor and respect the US military, regardless of who is giving them their orders. I did not even make the connection when I saw this film.
I agree with you. If this was an attempt to promote the liberal Hollywood agenda, they did it under the radar enough that I took something else from it entirely. I did not see it as a knock against American military at all. I saw it as a greedy corporation that was far enough away from home that they felt they could get away with murder to get their prize and get it first. This is just a story about human nature.
Chopper, Hollywood will not fund any film that promotes the values of films like they use to. I made my film FORGOTTEN HEREOS with private investors who are taking a risk with a guy like me, a first timer. To raise the kind of money to compete with Hollywood you need to have a funding source like Time Warner. None of the studios would fund Mel Gibson's THE PASSION and he has output deals with the studios, he is a proven BOX office gold mine and they wouldn't touch this film because of the content and imagery. Mel had to put up the 30 million to make the film and another 30 million to distribute it. The cult of leftist malcontents went after him as if he was a nazi war criminal and that drove up his box office sales. No one can pay for that kind of PR. It made Mel a billionaire, too bad he doesn't fund guys like me to make films, i'd never retire.
There is no massive funding for conservatives like myself or I would have been cranking out films for the past twenty years. Now, I am convince, that if I have shown my 'FORGOTTEN HEROES" raping young VC girls, shooting their heads off, wiping out villages, getting stoned all the time, killing babies, I would be as big as Marty today because they would have brought me into the loop to be another filmmaking propagandist for their leftist agenda. I'd rather shovel shit then sell out my ideals.
I have spent 30 yeas chasing conservative money out there not just to make one film here or there but lots of films as a film studio does. If anyone would have pulled this off it would have been me. Its is just a matter of time to create a perception as a successful filmmaker. I have two films in profit, its FORGOTTEN HEROES that was stopped from getting out there. So all I have is this one man grass roots effort to sell my film and eventually I will get national exposure and the past 30 years of money contacts will pay off.
"success has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan" JFK
Besides Hollywood liberals HATE us conservatives, they treat us like lepers and they don't have the balls to handle any outside competition. They couldn't handle Mel Gibson and he stuck it up their gagooza. What would the do if there were 50 mel gibson's out there cranking out films that attack the leftist agenda and exposing it as the joke that it is. That is why there is NO money for guys like me. Liberals can dish it out but they can't take it when they are pissed on. Heaven help them all if I ever get the funding I seek, then it will be my turn to have all the fun too!
Brilliant, but say Evil White Man.
99% of all movies are Pro-American. including Avatar, a story about protecting property rights.
Sounds like every other Hollywood movie
Reinforcing my point, yesterday's WSJ reported "Behind Momentum of 'Avatar' Are Big Sales Boosts From Abroad" (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704...
Outtakes:
- Avatar is already the most successful movie ever in Russia. It's also huge in France.
- "Two thirds of the total box-office receipts so far have been generated abroad."
- "Some moviegoers abroad are drawn to what they see as an anti-capitalist message in the film's plot."
- "Francois Eygun, a 19-year-old student in Paris, saw in the film's plot a message about U.S. foreign policy: 'With what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan it is quite relevant.'"
That young Frenchman figured it out pretty quickly, didn't he.
this commentary is idiotic
It´s an argument. I still think it takes a lot of speculation and suspension of disbelief, but if you want to see it that way… at least you´re having fun!
Certainly not worse!
so speaks the halfwit
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Jack Thank you for the explanation as to why more good Pro-American movies aren't being maid. I always think of Hollywood as den of evil. I'm not a big fan of going to the movies(haven't been to a movie theatre in 15 years), but I do enjoy watching a good one on tv. It seems all they make is a bunch of crap and garbage lately. I'd be pissed off spending 10 bucks to see some of this garbage they put out. But I'll be happy to buy a copy of your movie.
I'm surprised there are not more deep pocketed conservatives interested in making some money on some good Pro-American movies. If I win a $100 million in the lottery, we're in business. We'll put Hollywood out of business.
That thing is sweet………………………………………………as I picture it impaled in somebodys' gulliver.
Yeah man, and it talks to you also, and it makes sense!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ,,,,,,,,,,satire??
We've covered the atrocities on both sides of the Indian wars in this country ad nauseum. The Indians were eating eachother loooong before Europeans arrived. Do we have to cover the "history" of the Noble Savages", the original "gang bangers", again?Crimeny!!
I agree, when it's worn by a man like JW.
In the case of Mr. Monkey-Crib-Hump above, it defines the he/she from which he was ejaculated to be a pile of excrement…it's a genetic thing, after all.
How about I offer you a par-boiled fart? Will that cheer you up?
Sow the beans, reap the flatus.
no one knows how to censor speach like you folks, you freaking hypocrites, this movie was made by newscorp, fox…get it?
because this movie was made by fox
I cannot believe what I am reading on this site. There is NO MENTION OF AMERICA IN THE WHOLE
FREGGIN MOVIE!@!
Even if they were ex-Marines, can't they be mercenaries? Doesn't this happen in real life?
Are we supposed to give mercenaries the same respect we give US Marines and Soldiers?
IS every warrior dressed in fatigues a US MARINE?
The movie CLEARLY states these are mercenaries hired
by a corporation to protect mining operations. WHERE IN THE WORLD do you think this
Movie says anything about America , the United States or EVEN EARTH! I saw NOT ONE
AMERICAN FLAG …..count it…NOT ONE.
This is a Science fiction movie, it could be ANY alternative universe……boy you really should read more.
IF it resembles the United States, well maybe that is the intention, maybe it isn't, maybe it's just some
food for thought…..so please grab a nice meal, and think about what you are saying.
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