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Conservatives often talk about what they don’t like about Hollywood. That’s okay, but it’s not productive. Maybe it’s time we talked about what we do like? More to the point, let’s point out when Hollywood has gotten it right. And that brings me to the...






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Very intriguing personality was Robert Mitchum.
"Chiiiilllldren!"
I recently watched Night of the Hunter for the first time… very interesting film. I wonder how people would react if it were released today.
BH shows us all these great actors from times past, it just dawned on me. 40 years from now peoeple are going to look back on hollywood's past and think man they just don't make them like that anymore , and will be refering to our current crop of celebs.
Man sorry for the bring down
ok to make up for it:
In a fight between Lo Pan and Darth Vader, who wins?
JFK murdered in Dallas on 11/22/1963 – 46 years ago yesterday.
No big deal to most people any more. Too much time is going by. In a few years it will be little more than a fact – "50 years ago,….." etc..
Kids – "Who? Oh, yeah. Saw it on TV.
The event has become the grist for comedy.
I'm not a big Kennedy fan, but that was a rough few days and the latter half of the 20th century in the USA was colored by that event. The world seems an uglier place since that day.
I don;t really think that will happen. Such vapid performers in such useless material. I'm astounded when I actually see some of the recent and celebrated actors 'acting'. They're so bad. It's like a parody of acting.
I hated STAR WARS, btw. Silliest sh!t in a lifetime. Lo pan would fly through the air while DV was still tripping over his black dress and dick-helmut.
Hail the Pork Chop Express!
Our world today is different from theirs, too. Hell, Robert Mitchum got into fights and hopped a railroad car when he was young working odd jobs along the way. Can that even happen today?
Hell there is no actor today to compare to Mitchum. The men in Hollywood are just women with dicks LOL
i was sitting in church when it dawned on me that it was Kennedy day.
Man how interesting that once someone is Killed their legacy gets hijacked.
Would JFK behave in a similarly liberal and frat-boyish way like Tedward?
Would MLK behave like Jackson or Sharpton?
We can't know. And the ability for us to project on them is part of what makes them Icons.
NY Times says it will not publish the Emails hacked from the scientist that prove some sort of conspiracy to hide the truth about global warming because they were never meant for public consumption. Yet, myriad top secret revelations during the Bush years they published were somehow ok. Talk about journalistic malpractice! Thank goodness for the shockingly few honest news organizatons out there.
yeah I'm sick of those pretty boys
If anyone is looking for a fat, overweight, no uppre body stregnth real man, just give me a call
I got to speak to James Hong once very recently, and had a chance to let him know how wonderful he was as an actor; such memorable characters! Not just David Lo Pan, but Hannibal Chew from "Bladerunner", and even his recent voice work in "Kung-Fu Panda". Marvelous character actor…
He related to me how he disliked his call on "Bladerunner"; Director Ridley Scott went the full bore and actually filmed his part in a refrigerated warehouses' freezer for the authenticity!
James would be in there, freezing his butt off, and trying to maintain control over his performance without his teeth chattering, all the while people were starting to stack up with their food deliveries that needed to get into that freezer!
BTW: he really likes doing Ping from "Panda, the father-son dynamic just makes him chuckle…
NY Times?
Weren't they a paper once upon a time…?
(Nothing like it; adding to your own demise…)
Robert Mitchum, a real man, great actor.
the "paper of record" supposedly
I'm pulling for Darth Vader on this one, simply because he could use the Force to stop Lo Pan's movements. As for your comments on how people will look back on Hollywood's past, I think most think that now.
I'm surprised they didn't publish them as some kind of elaborate sting operation against whoever hacked them. Well, then again, once it happened, public sympathy would probably swing around to the hacker for exposing the truth. So maybe not.
According to the LA Times this morning, Palin's approval rating is only 5 points lower than Obama's (43%, as opposed to 48%), with 76% favorable ratings from Republicans, 45% from independents and even 21% from Democrats. I'd make a bet that the MSM will never report this, but I doubt I'd find any takers. Come to think of it, when was the last time the media (outside of Fox News) ran any story on Obama's poll numbers?
God I miss Seinfeld. The 4 minutes of "Seinfeld" we got last night on Curb was so much better than the crap they pass off as comedy today.
In the movie "Crossfire", the three leading actors are ROBERT Young, ROBERT Mitchum, and ROBERT Ryan…bet that never happened in any other movie.
well, they would be surprised that Shelly Winters' was actually hot once… and the nice turn by Peter Graves as well.
But for a pure pesrsonification of evil? Hard to look any further than this…
just make sure you are not getting your 'facts' from Oliver Stone's 'JFK'…
a recent poll showed an alarmingly high percentage of people learned about the even from Stone's elaborate fiction which changed known facts and distorted time to fit into his 'story'. Not you, of course-
but millions out there think Bell Helicopter was a key player in this conspiracy, amongst the CIA, FBI, LBJ and his administration, the Dallas PD and literally thousands of others.
No matter what happened Stone is most definitely wrong in HIS assertions…
Mitchum's greatest hits:
1) 'Night of the Hunter
2) The Story of GI JOE
3) Out of the Past
4)Cape Fear (both films will do nicely)
5)The Hunters
6)My Forbidden Past
7)Heaven Knows, Mr Allison
8)The Enemy Below
9)The Yakuza
10) A Holiday Affair- ok, it;s a Christmas movie and a trifle- but he's marvelous
and small roles in 'Gung HO!', '30 Seconds Over Tokyo', 'The Longest Day' and 'Midway' all deserve mention…
there is simply no one like Mitchum working today…
one of the worst movies, fact wise, ever created.
most reasonable people agree with the Warren Commission conclusions if not their reasoning.
I personally Like Case Close by Gerald Posner (no conservative btw)
Look if myth busters can re-create the magic bullet shot, whay can't people accept it?
The problem I have with the conspiracy theorists is that they can't even agree among themselves.
A very good actor (and a MANLY man) who could play good and bad equally well. I miss him, and that type of manly actor. Mitchum and others of his period had 'real guy' faces and bodies. So many male actors, today, are way, way too androgenous and look like they arm wrestle their female counterparts for time in front of the mirror, and the hair gel dispenser. Their voices aren't deep enough, either! Grrrrr.
I know it was a TV movie, but don't forget his role as Pug Henry in Winds of War/War & Remembrance. He was fine in that as well, although he played down his iconic self.
Nobody….and I mean NOBODY….looked better in a trench coat and slouch fedora. Today we seem to be awash in "faux cool" but Mitchum was the real deal. He liked to pretend none of it mattered but he was a hard-working actor who took pride in what he did. He just made it look so damn easy.
problem is Oswald probably didn't act alone- we feel after much analysis he was the 'primary' shooter; it could be a Castro/disaffected CIA/Mafia conspiracy. THAT is possible, particularly given the Jack Ruby connection. Oswald as a patsy? If you really research the man a far more complex portrait emerges. A man who defected to the USSR, changed his mind- and in the SAME day as he applied for US visa was granted one- an extremely rare and unusual event in it's own. The shot was not particularly remarkable; as any Marine Corp sharpshooter could make it. Of course, Oswald was that as well… he was involved in the pro-Castro movement- heavily, and that's why he was on Hoover's radar.
Stone wants to advance the fiction that JFK was ready to disengage from Vietnam. All available evidence indicates the anti-communist Kennedy was going to ramp up pur involvement- including a memo sending more Special Forces to theater- a classic first move before regular troops are committed. But those who see everything through a liberal prism of anti-Vietnam (pro-communist?) agendas are heavily involved in this fiction.
Stone being at the forefront…
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
Hey, New York Times, can you say "Pentagon Papers?"
…it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
From the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, 1776
Mitchum still kicks McConaughey's a** in the "Beef. It's What's For Dinner" commercial!
PS- Mitchum STILL kicks McConaughey's a** in the "Beef. It's What's For Dinner" commercial!
I would put "The Friends of Eddie Coyle" in the Top 10.
was there anyone acking up Oswald, if don't I won't pretend to know. But as for the shooting itself, lone gunman. Of that I am very confident.
He tried shooting some right wing general in the weeks prior to the assassination
I always thought however that Badgeman would be a great name for a band.
Another Favorite is "photograpes" (It seems Oswald was dyslexic and mislabeled a photo album.)
You beat me to the punch. Mitchum is perfect. Great flick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys44wYHKuvQ
Darth Vader with out a doubt. He had half his body burned off and survived to become the Empire's biggest bad ass.
Lo Pan takes on knife to the head and he's history.
The biggest problem with JFK's death is the massive PR campaign the left used to rewrite history, and at it's center was his wife Jackie.
First she used the funeral to promote the concept that he was like Lincoln. The funeral take the same routes, and she had White House photographers take pictures from the same perspective as historical Lincoln photos and drawings.
Then she made up the part about Camelot. Friends of Kennedy said he'd never seen the musical, and most likely never wanted to even hear the record.
Then Oswald was morphed from an unhinged, anti-American communist into a red neck, racists, right wing fanatic.
And the lefties ate it up. I know I did until I grew up and started learning the truth.
They have dicks?
Two words: Pentagon Papers.
Run Sarah RUN!
JFK would not be a Democrat now.
And he would have slapped Teddy in the face, then squashed his punk nephew Patrick's political aspirations.
it was close, that's for sure. Better of his later work. Not a personal fave, but good point nonetheless…
yep, Badgeman is a good name… biggest hole in ALLof the conspiracy stuff is the dismissal of Oswald as a VERY serious agent.
Welcome to Chi-town:
The medical examiner's office in Cook County, Ill., said it is attempting to identify the skeletal remains found inside a sleeping bag in a forest preserve.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/23/Skeleta...
Robert Mitchum…yup that is his real name. Stevedore, ditchdigger, and rail rider. Arrested for
vagrancy and spent time on a Georgia chain-gang. According to him he once met a young women
by the name of jean at a logging camp kitchen. She was married but he had her in the woods.
The young lady told him she was heading to LA and ditching her husband……you guessed it..
Mitchum claims it was the woman to be known as Marlyn Monroe… It coulda happened I guess.
Here, here.
Skirts like Damon & Clooney…couldn't even carry Mitchum's jock.
seriously?!?!?!
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have you seen this "Planestupid.com" polar bears ad?
dude!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTND76fnhyM
The film noir classic.."Out of the Past" should be on your list.
and so it should… thanks for the input.
actually- on second perusal0 IT IS there!
It is…my apologies sir.
I must point out two films where Mitchum played agains type…."The Friends of Eddie Coyle" and
the critical flop "Ryan's Daughter". Catch that Boston accent that Mitchum does perfect as Eddie Coyle.
It is a great image. Would it be banned in the UK with that ciggy?
or Brosnan & DeCaprio.
Eddie Coyle was a good film, 'Ryan's Daughter' was David Lean's worst film with a hopelessly miscast Mitchum- but a good performance by the tragic Christopher Jones…
"Ol' Foot-face" as he used to say…
Wow im 54 and my kids and grandkids grew up with Mitchum, the Duke, all of the Golden years hollywood and they tell me "Wow none in hollywood compare to the actors like the Duke and Mitchum! What happened they say, "Well I tell them, McCarthy didn't clean em out all the way! If the teachers don't teach, I will!
Oh and what a man! VaVa Va Vooooom!
He scared me stiff in "Cape Fear." Just a menacing presence.
To be honest, I don't think I could carry it either.
Nothing against Mitchum, but dude, his junk was in it!
'River Of No Return' is my favorite movie.
One of THE Sexiest Men of Hollywood.
Heck, even in "The Winds of War" he was still commanding screen presence!
One of my all-time favorite Mitchum movies is "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison."
That man had instant chemistry with whatever female star was cast with him. How many male actors have that kind of presence on screen today? He was especially good with Jane Greer, Jane Russell and Deborah Kerr.
Caught "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison" a couple weeks back. Excellent movie. BH has led me to discover a lot of great movies which helps to make up for the void of good movies being made today.
Loved "A Holiday Affair." Hadn't seen it until a couple of years ago. Good film.
I can't remember which female mega star I heard (possibly Kate Hepburn) talk about Mitchum's ability to read a script once and have it memorized. I have also read that he was very intelligent.
They have really puny dicks, so they're hard to see.
I like him in TIL THE END OF TIME the other BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES of the era.
Thunder Road!
even though we have property in Knoxville- and just love Tennessee- 'Thunder Road' is not a very good film- have you seen it lately? Very dated…but Mitchum is fine as usual.
good pull- forgot about that one…
it does, doesn't it? 'Allison' a personal fave, and one of John Huston's better efforts as well….
Mitchum and Monroe- with Otto Preminger at the helm. You'd think it would have been a no-brainer… but not one of Mitchum's more memorable films. At least for HIS efforts; Monroe was pretty smokin' although- and it had some great scenes. Nice entry…
Thunder Road may not be a masterpiece, but I liked it a lot. It´s certainly better than "Midway", with its recycled footage. I saw "Midway" on it´s first release. In SENSURROUND. I thought it was great but I was about 10 years old.
Anyway, if you cannot put "The Sundowners" among Mitchum´s top movies we are simply not going to agree.
The Sundowners. One of my favorites. Not sure why. Just love it.
no argument about the two films, it was only mentioned in the passing of his war movie cameos. 'Longest Day' much better. 'Sundowners' is a close cut; sorry buddy…
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