Death of the Movie Star: Hollywood Rethinks use of A-list Actors
by Big Hollywood
“Hollywood studios are now thinking twice about splurging on A-list movie stars and costly productions in reaction to the poor economy, but also because of the surprising success of recent films with unknown actors. …
“Last weekend, comic actor Jim Carrey’s “A Christmas Carol” became the latest celebrity-driven movie to stumble at box offices, opening to a lower-than-expected $30 million.
“Aside from Jim Carrey and “Carol,” which cost at least $175 million, A-listers who suffered box office flops recently have included Bruce Willis (”Surrogates”), Adam Sandler (”Funny People”), Will Ferrell (”Land of the Lost”), Eddie Murphy (”Imagine That”) and Julia Roberts (”Duplicity”).
“‘The (major movie) machine didn’t fly last summer, if you look at the movies and the names, they were not star-driven movies, they really weren’t,’ said Peter Guber, chairman of Mandalay Entertainment and former head of Sony Pictures.
“Hollywood insiders say A-listers currently are having trouble with salary demands in the $15 million range or participation approaching 20 percent of gross profits — deals that were once somewhat common for top talent. Instead, they are being asked to take less money upfront and greater compensation only if a film breaks even.”
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What's good for Big banking, Big investments and Big pharma should be OK for big films. Cap anual payrolls for everyone in the film industry at 300,000. That includes producers, directors and studio big wigs. Power to the non film people!!!!
They never should have given them that much money to begin with. There are no movie stars anymore. People go to see a movie based on the content.
Good. All those greedy celebritard liberals (but really capitalists), should be forced to share the failure or success of their horrible movies with the greedy liberal (but really capitalist) movie studios.
WHY?? WHY?? OH MY GOD WHY?? THIS CAN NOT BE HAPPENING, WHY NOW?
YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THE ABSURD SALARIES………..YOU ARE INFRINGING ON THEIR FREEDOMS.
THEY ARE BEING SILENCED BECAUSE THEY ARE FREE THINKERS….. AND WAY UP ON THE HIERARCHY OF THE PRIVILEGED ELITES MAYBE EVEN AT THE TOP…. SOME MAY EVEN FLEE TO CUBA AND VENEZUELA FOR THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH THAT ONLY MONEY COULD BUY.
STOP IT MAO!!!! OOPS NOW!!!
Due to A-list Stars, Hollywood is incapable of thinking:
"DUNN: You know, it's – I recommend everybody, if you get a chance to go on YouTube, Jon Stewart actually did one of the most amazing pieces of journalism last week or a couple of weeks ago in which he actually looked at the way FOX, on their opinion shows, raises some, you know, some – some issue that then gets reported on by their news division as, quote, "a controversy," and then they go find someone to comment."
Seaking of A-listers: perhaps America will find enlightenment when Jon Stewart's amusing audience stops consuming Jon Stewart's bowel movements?
As more and more people realize the ones that the Hollywood socialites are ridiculing are them, the ones that consume the products, the more they are turning away from financing their luxurious lifestyles!!! Hollywood put all it's eggs in the basket with Obama and his "Progressives", now they are suffering the repercussions of their actions!!! Maybe they'll pass a law that will make it mandatory to pay to watch their movies!!!! I'm sure they can perverse the Constitution enough to make it legal!!!!!
LOL — That was audaciously funny. Thanks for the laugh.
I, for one, can't take seriously the statements from any person named Peter Guber.
Peter Guber? Jeezily crow, I hope his middle name isn't Dick.
Let's see, what does it cost to take a family of four to the movies on a weekend night in the DC area? Tickets=$40; Two popcorns, two candies, and four sodas=$38.00. The satisfaction of watching Hollywood collectively stratch their heads over why they're hemorraging cash while I refuse to pay such ridiculous prices to be insulted by anti-American drivel, "starring" celebrities who hold their paying public with the highest disdain=PRICELESS.
Cry me a river for the past-their-expiration-date A List hacks that won't be getting obscene big bucks for their mediocre talents anymore. Hollywood as we know it needs to disappear. Only after that, there is a chance that in the void capital will find its way to good scripts and talent by independents.
I find it so repulsive that most of the world thinks they know us through the garbage that Hollywood exports.
They can't die fast enough.
Well its not the pay that is killing them, its the garbage they are making that is killing them. A good movie is going to be a good movie, I am not even going to bother seeing the latest from Jim Carey, why? I can see the best version ever made, Alistar Simm for less than what it would cost me to pop some pop corn. I don't go to the movies like it did in years gone by, Out side of three or four movies I can remember seeing, the rest was just a waste of time and money. I did go see the Wizard of Oz on the big screen. That was well worth the 10 bucks for the ticket, the tall sam adams at the bar, yea there is a movie theather where I live that has a real bar in it and a pretty good restruant too. Oz was a sell out with in a day you could buy tickets. I would think somebody noticed, Its not that people are fed up with the movies, they are just fed up with low grade crape passing off for high art or what have you.
That's a little harsh, methinks.
People are being harsh on A Christmas Carol.
For one, it's November, not many are in the Christmas mood quite yet. As it proved this week, it has legs. Like that other Zemeckis motion capture Christmas film, Polar Express, it'll gross more the closer it gets to Christmas.
It is hard to truly debate the death of the movie star though. Outside of Will Smith(and to lesser extents, Carrey and Sandler) I can't think of anyone who can sell a movie solely on their presence.
Besides the movies, for the most part, being crappy, I refuse to go pay money to watch someone I can't tolerate. Especially those "A" listers that spew their politics and think we should pay attention to them just because they are movie stars. Losers.
Speaking of obnoxious Hollywood, I can't wait for Avatar to come out. I'm hoping to watch it crash and burn. Fern Gully meets Dances with Wolves for the low, low price of $500 million. Blech!!! The people who put good money into this sort of stuff deserve what's coming to them. Bankruptcy.
I can't think of a single Hollywood star whose mere presence draws me to a movie theater. Quite the opposite, actually.
Well, I looked at Funny People's gross, the movie-star is in even worse condition than I thought it was. All I can think of who is a true star today is Smith.
I used to try to separate the actor's politics from the actor. It was my way of being "fair."
Not any more. We're up against it, every which way. To hell with these unprincipled jerks. Not one of those idiots who threatened (promised) to leave the country if George W. Bush were re-elected were worthy of being allowed to polish Bush's boots.
I notice they threatened time and again, but never left. Susan? You still here?
Spent Saturday night watching Kelly's Heroes with my sons and husband. Next week, Rio Bravo; we have also seen a Road movie with Hope & Crosby. If not a classic film, then a kid film with an animal, and we READ. I send them to private, faith-based school. I want them to learn to be discerning in their tastes, and offended when someone tries to lecture them rather than entertain, in film or in books.
I guess pissing off over half of the people who can afford to go to movies was not such a good idea after all.
I bought 5 John Wayne movies( They were expendable, Sands of iwo jima, Operation pacific, Back to battan, Flying leathernecks) from Amazon last week for less than $15 total for all of them delivered to my house.
Dead on!
And, don't forget the libtard causes that these A List hacks donate towards.
A two year boycott of all Hollywood products would go a long way in getting rid of the beast.
Can we just make sure their salaries are still high enough to cover a ticket to visit Fidel? One way, of course.
Kelly's Heroes is one of the greats.
"Would you like to hear my other dog imitation?"
The Movie Exec's might becarful on cutting the stars money, cause when one starts crying to the UNION it's all over for movies and studio's altogether. Sad thing is I love movies, I love to see the special effects, I like to be lost from the world for 2 hrs, but that's just not happening anymore. I'm a big geek, love the superhero movies, and sci-fis, but the written isnt there anymore, and with the movie execs, thinking the a-list stars will cover up the stories just falls flat.
Capitalism doing its finest work. No wonder they hate it.
I remember going to see the latest John Wayne film simply because it was a John Wayne film. Filmgoers used to go to the movies just to see the latest Gable flick, or Monroe movie, or Garbo film, even a Bowery Boys programmer because they loved Slip, Sach, Whitey, Louie and the gang.
When have you heard lately, "I think I'll go see the latest Meg Ryan film" or "Hey, Sean Penn has a new movie out. Let's go blow $30 bucks!" Uh…it ain't happnin'…
Here's a thought: Perhaps if these spoilt leftards would just STFU, stop insulting their audiences, and get over their lame selves, maybe – just maybe – more people would want to see their movies. I'm sure the economy has something to do with this situation, but I'm equally certain that quite a few people are sick and tired of being sick and tired of the likes of Penn and Clooney lecturing and belittling them, and so they don't really want to put any more money in their pockets.
I'm in entertainment myself, and being a libertarian-conservative in entertainment means I have to seperate art and politics to enjoy just about anything anymore, but I'm only human, so when I hear about the next blockbuster being made as a vehicle for Clooney or Penn, I'm thinking, "Nah, I'll wait to see it on HBO or Showtime, because I'd rather not give that turd-ball the ticket sale."
I can't be the only one who has been driven to think this way.
Let me get this straight? A business that's been making movies for a century now has to have it explained to them why you make movies. I mean, Hollywood literally does not realize that the whole point of a movie is to tell a story? Damn! I knew they were clueless about their audience – but it's mind boggling to realize they're clueless about their work. For crying out loud, do these guys blink when the light bulb goes on?
Looks like everyone hit the reasons I rarely go to theater myself: tickets are waaay too expensive, crappy plots with too much anti-everything-I-care-about bias, so-called A-listers that make me sick to my stomach, etc.
I have enough on DVD already to last me for quite awhile…
Oh, I am WITH you. That Alistair Sim version is the perfect, priceless version of 'A Christmas Carol'. Literally, every Christmas morning, the tradition in my house is to watch that film. It isn't Christmas without it.
BTW – if Santa gives me the Christmas wish that I want with all my heart, please, please put a real bullet in Penn's finger! Please, Santa, please?
With a nice flat screen and Blu-ray at home, I have little interest in going to the theatre anymore, outside of "event movies" such as Star Trek… and I agree, there are no new "movie stars" anymore. I would put the likes of Jack Nicholson in that category but it's a shrinking one…
Beyond that, I am no longer "ignoring" the politics of "celebrities." Now that certainly does not mean I boycott any film with a left- leaning celeb, that would be pretty silly and even un-American. But anything with obnoxious, America and Christian- hating lefties like Sean Penn I will not pay to see. I also watch little new televison because I'm sick of the lefty preaching and Green Religion being shoved into every half hour. Hell, I've even trimmed my comic book reading because of the rampant political B.S. It's time conservatives and libertarians speak with their wallets wherever they can.
These punk actors have no problem biting the hand that feeds them but they never learned to shake it much less kiss it. Good for you HPJr give it to them with both barrels. I'm right there with you. These sacred cows in some cases swines will never leave the US of A. They might be ingrates but they're not stupid. Well… they are stupid but not that stupid.
people don't like being insulted or to hear somone insult thier country and way of life.
The constant barrage from holloywood turns people off.
The newest thing that capitalism is a trap or slavery? Every one knows that capitalism can make you rich. the hollywood morons who rail against it really don't understand that they are biting the hand that feeds them. So be it.
Once upon a time Jim Carrey wrote himself a post dated check for $10 Million. Now he claims that capitalism is wrong. Sorry man, no more. You are boycotted. Now I'm jst one person. but it seems that a lot of one persons are doing the same thing for a long list of people.
If these guys just want to have half of the potential audience, Fine. I await the Hollywood or Flyover Studios or what ever that is willing to go after the other half.
Penns next movie can be a documentary about an actor portraying a gay politician in Cuba. The hard part will be smuggling the thing out of the prison. Oh wait, that will be the easy part of that endeavor. Fidel does demand fidelity.
OMG! That's was hysterical! Thanks for the laugh!
Let's cap all the salary of these non-talent commies making big buck just reading line, please. Consumers are ready to boycott these non-talent commies.
I dont give a Shit about what Sean Penn thinks, he should ditch the doucebag mustache.
The actors in Hollywood need to understand one thing; they are entertainers. Like Kurt said, so entertain us!
Thank you for the reply. You hit the proverbial nail right on the head, my friend.
I think my Conservative brothers and sisters are (justifiably) pissed off. It's past time we got fighting mad. It's disgusting that the enemy lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, too. At least, in the past, there was another country pursuing what they thought were their national goals. This time around, our President sponsors their (foreign nations') goals at our expense. As if we have one thin dime to pay these people for "climate debt" or "climate justice."
And then these same Hollywood jerks with their I-Hate-America swagger are more than happy to climb up on the ol' soapbox and lecture us benighted (to them) citizens on racial sensitivity, the need for Obamacare, etc., etc., ad nauseum. I think it's telling that Janeane Garofalo echoes Fidel Castro's sentiments about how we have racial hatred for Obama. What a load of BS!
$175 million to make a movie?
I bet most of this cost is designed to be written off using some sort of tax break
This is not my America portrayed in theses lousy movies (I don't mean the Carry one, that one is just out too early )and I will not go watch their trashy movies. I want a movie with some redeeming value to it. Some uplifting and hopeful quality and these movies coming out now, only glorify Self and the morale stance they take is so disgusting to me.
Two men or women kissing and carrying on in public still makes me sick, a woman having an abortion is murder and should not be glorified and sleeping around is still not Okay in my community and neither is selling drugs to kids. . But then, I live in one of the red states where we are not as bright as those in Hollywood and need to be taught what is Kool and how to think about things in the "correct" way.
I'll stay home and keep my money in my pocket.
From a marketing point of view, hiring internationally recognizable movie stars makes sense. It gives you something to center the campaign on, someone who can get on magazine covers, someone to do to PR, go an tv shows in major markets and talk about your movie…
But beyond providing the aforementioned services, how much are they worth? Not that much.
Few stars today attract audiences on their own. People check out the movie itself and if it doesn´t look good, they won´t go. And who can blame them? Most stars have destroyed their brand by scandals, or starring in bizarre vanity projects. Their names are in fact NOT a guarantee for a good time.
Few movies make their money back on the first weekend, or even in theatres. Stars can´t do anything about word of mouth. Besides, no one believes anymore that stars are the best actors. There are more good actors than roles.
They are all Roman Ps buds and it ain't rape rape like ya know!
And the content is pretty bad! Top producers and directors think they're writers, so cook up implausible, poorly written scripts and think special effects of big stars can get people who are worried about losing their jobs cough up $10 for a few hours of entertainment. Instead of making them forget about losing their jobs, they feel worse for having spent the ten bucks and been bored for two hours.
Thank God, maybe some other actors can actually get work in major films instead of the same stable of fatuous, overpaid faces, distracting from the story because they are so recognizable.
I don't see films with Clooney, Damon or Ferrell. Cage makes good films sometimes as do Denzel and Will Smith. But increasingly all of them (except Cage) are becoming so political I no longer can suspend my disbelief long enough to accept them as the characters they play. It's like going to a movie and seeing Barack Obama on the screen and try to believe he's anything but a ruthless politician.
And then there's that many people are losing their jobs and just can't justify $10 bucks to see a mediocre film.
Don't even watch those two, and some others, on cable anymore. Just can't stand to see their faces.
Agree. Besides the movies being crappy, the studios always stick in some politico and a few lines about what jerks Republicans/Conservatives/Independents who don't vote Dem are. I always check out a film on BH to find out if I'll be sucker punched and/or "educated" on how smart liberales are. Unless a film is starring Clooney, Damon, Penn, Cusack or a whole list of politicians masquerading as actors.
I've even given up Andy and Opie, two of my all time favorites and "The Andy Griffith" show was my quiet escape from reality. But then they teamed up to push their politics!!!!!!!!!!! They are ENTERTAINERS!!!!!!! A hundred years ago it was an embarrassment to have an actor in the family!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I can. Cate Blanchette always turns in a good performance. I'll go to see any film John Voight is in unless he's cancelled out by a Sean Penn. I enjoy Angelina Jolie and sometimes her boy toy. Rupert Everett is always excellent. Clive Owen isn't being given good parts, but he's ever intriguing. Ho'wood is hurting for leading ladies. Other than Jolie and Blanchette, I can't think of a one who's worth watching. As far as leading men, most of the ones worth watching are British, Aussie or Scots.
You're not.
There's no such thing as being "too big to fail" — especially in southern California.
Lefties always howl that boycotts don't work. Unless they're boycotting someone on the right. Turnabout is fair play. I suspect what Ho'wood is seeing is a quiet, seething boycott of films starring actors who've made their politics too clear to be ignored. George C. Looney, are you listening?
Give me a classic star – Gable, Stewart, and others who supported the USA by putting their lives on the line. Or a Lombard who sold bonds to support the USA (and in Lombard's case, put her life on the line doing it, I believe.) Or how about the Hollywood women who danced with soldiers at the Canteen? Or the stars who traveled to dangerous places to stage USO shows? Those stars deserved to be called stars. That is one of the reasons people still buy their films on DVD.
I have long voted with my pocketbook. Now, I think a lot of other people are doing the same thing. Wise up, Hollywood.
Let's see them go to Europe, Cuba, Venezuela, or China to make movies and get the big pay days.
I thoroughly enjoyed "Star Trek". If you didn't see it, by all means do. I suspect Ho'wood actors had so many years of being able to strut their Democratic propaganda without any penalty, they're stunned (as are the Dem. politicians) that the Internet has given US a voice.
You're not. While Ho'wood and the Left deny bocotts work (unless they're the ones boycotting something), I believe there is a silent boycott of Lefty Ho'wood films going on. Will they catch on? Doubt it. And since the propaganda media are not likely to give it any ink or air time for fear of exacerbating the movement, they're not likely to.
"Now that certainly does not mean I boycott any film with a left- leaning celeb, that would be pretty silly and even un-American." Why? They boycott you by demeaning your values.
Dear Sean – Do America a Favor. Buy a Gun and Pull That Trigger !
The actor-as-director-as-genius may be responsible for a great many problems. I can't believe Sean Penn's hamminess. The guy can overact while sleeping. Also – sorry to sound like Dame Edna – he's COMMON. Great male stars can't be common.
Maybe he'd be okay under, say, Budd Boetticher's direction in a minor role as a trigger-happy psycho .
And Budd could tell Sean straight out: You are NOT Randy Scott. And you are NEVER going to be Randy Scott.
My sentiments entirely. In capitalist society, where money talks and bs walks, our best weapon is boycotting these smarmy creeps, be it any corporation, that undermines our way of life.
No exceptions. Just do it.
Hollywood, the NYT's, CNN, GE, add your own offender, our best weapon since arrogant narcissists can't cognitively register negative feedback is to hit them in their wallets.
Let me just digest this a moment. Hollywood is starting to THINK!?
It seems Hollywood is good at crashing and blowing stuff up or the ubiquitous car chase. I find this so boring now. It has been done to death. Our family has turned to the quirky foreign films that have an interesting story line that you have to watch closely or you will miss the nuance of the story. Most Hollywood stuff you can leave, go to the toilet and return and not feel like you have missed anything, because you didn’t. There have been a few good movies come from Hollywood but if they were baseball payers their batting average would not get them hired into the big leagues. Also it does not help when they wear their politics on their sleeve.
At what point do you stop being called an A-lister? I mean – Jesus Marimba – Eddie Murphy hasn't been in a movie that didn't flop catastrophically in twenty years!
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I agree with your list, and want to add Alan Rickman. I'm glad he's received more recognition in his turn as Professor Snape in the Harry Potter films, but he's as versatile as Blanchett.
Yes a bit harsh. I'm also guilty of condeming "Hollywood" not meaning to include the non liberal types that also work there. I hope that is understood by the folks that contribute here as well as "Hollywood." or the movie industry. I can only imagine how it must feel to hear your brethern in a conservative politics wish your industry ill and swear not go to films that directly or indirectly feed ones family. I will try to remember that in any future remarks.
Dear God! Now I hate to hear that. How is someone supposed to live on the paltry wages being offered by the studios. It’s not the stars fault their movie sucks, it’s our fault for not understanding the brilliance of our betters. We should happily be turning over forty to fifty bucks to be insulted, and view their very expensive swill.
"I find it so repulsive that most of the world thinks they know us through the garbage that Hollywood exports."
Amen. Hollywood elites think the world is flat, that it DOESN'T turn in a circle and it never comes back to them.
My parents will go see just about any movie Sandra Bullock is in, including "The Proposal" (although they passed up "All About Steve," as any self-respecting movie-watcher would). Tonight my mother said, "There's a new Sandra Bullock movie we have to go see!" referring to "The Blind Side."
She is the only actor who will draw my family to a movie. This is because 1) my dad loves "Miss Congeniality" so much he's seen it going on 20 times, and 2) Sandra hasn't done anything terribly obnoxious in public that we know of, such as insulting Republicans.
Two actors I will try to go see just simply because they are in it are Russell Crowe and Gerard Butler. Both of them are Real Men and they do quality work, despite what script or names or setup is around them. Even in the worst of movies, Crowe is known to at least "do his part" to the best of his ability.
Mr Crowe, I know youre at the Steelers game tonite. Just one litle word of pleading: BRING BACK JACK AUBREY!!!
It's all good. I recognize moments of idealogical passion. After yesterday's drubbing of my Trojans I wished the entire Stanford football team to die in a fiery plane crash..but not really.
Something tells me they dont blink at all. Smelling their own farts tends to do that…among other hallucinogens…
THANK YOU. Lord, I'm so sick of people screaming "Failure!" after the movie's been out for less than two weeks! For some movies, that's true, but not for a movie in the situation you describe.
I'm trying to think of instances of Denzel Washington and Will Smith being fiercely liberal or political.
Otherwise, you're right that today's stars spend more time propagandizing and less time entertaining audiences and honing their acting skills.
I worked with a guy named Peter A. Dick. Life was rough for him since it was a very fitting name. People used to put "is" on masking tape and put it on his name plate between Peter and A. Cruel parents.
I hope Peter Guber's wife's name is not Ima.
You certainly have your cross to bear this year.
I would suggest you take out all frustrations on UCLA.
Good luck
Oh, and, your alleged Hollywood conservatives haven't swallowed their principles for a paycheck? A "feelings" issue is it, please, cry me a river for those cowering Hollywood paycheck minority conservative zombies.
I've had the principles to leave jobs as a medical professional when my core values and ethics were trashed. No sympathy here.
Plus you get to rewind and slow play scenes where and actor you dislike gets punched or shot. The other night I was watching Doubt (an excellent movie BTW) and every time I got up to refill wine or whatnot I made sure to pause it so that Meryl was snarling… which was really easy because she was snarly the whole movie.
Well, the Nutty Professor remake was a hit for Murphy as was the sequel.
Otherwise, you're right that Murphy is off the A-list.
Personally, I like it when I do not know the actors. It makes the characters more believable and it is easier to melt into the story.
About Twilight. I wish they would actually shoot in LaPush and in some of the area's rainforests – they are way prettier than the ones depicted in the movie. Plus, the area could use the money. Sincerely they could. Forks – meh. Better places to film (sorry Forks).
I have solved that by checking movies out from the library. The other night I enjoyed Doubt (with Meryl Streep who I think is an utter boob) but the film was good. But, the next night I watched Becoming Jane (a pitiful waste of time) and found myself bothered by that vegan bit of dumbassery James Cromwell. I kept wishing he would get impaled by a pitchfork or that a giant cross would fall on his head. It sustained me. BTW Jane with grey hair looking like a wrinkless bitty at 40 or so. Oy.
I'll let those that work in the industry defend themselves should they feel the need.
I don't work there but I would imagine not all of them work for the more strident lefties we
all hear from. I would also guess that a lot of them have been there as the politics of the industry changed around them. While I admire the values you indicate you exhibit not all folks are capable of changing jobs as you did due to age etc. Do we really want to give the industry totally over to the loons tho that may be tempting. Fighting the fight from within has its merits. I don't wish death on anyone tho plagued with boils is attractive.
Well, she did marry a cretin, but then again, a lot of us could say the same.
Didn't this site run several articles on how Hollywood has received generous helpings of the stimulus package and various tax breaks? You're tax $$ are already helping to underwrite them.
FYI, in England you are required to buy a yearly license for the privilege of watching TV. The revenue goes to support the "unbiased" government controlled BBC.
Gee, maybe they are just not worth the money,
That is awful. Poor guy!
(But I couldn't help laughing, LOL.)
Nice idea until the empire strikes back. Newspapers failing? In addition to changing technology, it can't be because people won't pay for your biased opinion rags. They need a government bailout. Liberal radio a failure? It can't be that no one will listen to your spewing anti American Hate, we just need a Fairness Doctrine and raise licensing fees to 100% to fund a "public option"
People ARE voting with their wallets. And the statist response is to pass laws and create taxes that FORCE you to support their swill. Wait until a couple big studios threaten to close shop and suddenly there'll be an "outcry" to save jobs, or our "culture", all paid for with your tax dollars.
It's not as harsh as you think. I have spent a great deal of time overseas, and am married to a European. They really believe that the Hollywood drivel is true to the U.S. Think of the absolute worst movies and television programs we have, those get exported and it is the only exposure many get to our country and culture. They cannot begin to fathom middle America. They think everywhere is like NY, Chicago, LA, and Miami. Hollywood is one of the reasons the fanatics are after us. They want to redistribute our money and shut down, and shut up our corrupt Hollywood culture. The libs just don't get it.
I absolutely love that name, "George C. Looney." It's a well-earned appellation, and I hope it catches on nationwide.
You're right about the boycott claims, too. However, back in the day, when Jesse Jackson and his group, P.U.S.H., were putting the squeeze on Coca-Cola and others, all it took was the threat of boycott. The corporations folded like cheap suits. I was totally disgusted.
I hope we're seeing a "quiet, seething boycott of films starring actors who've made their politics too clear to be ignored." That would really make me happy. They don't deserve to get our hard-earned cash AND have the right to continually talk down to us. One or the other or neither, but not both — no way would that be right.
I appreciate your comments. They're always worth a little look, a little see, a little look-see. (I stole that from the comic strip, Mutts.)
I loved the new Star Trek, worth all the praise
Most people aren't going to go see "A Christmas Carol" until closer to Christmas. It's not even Thanksgiving yet.
The Shrek Franchise….billions there.
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I would certainly agree with you that Hollywood andTelevision have been an influence on the world
from good to bad depending on the era. But I disagree that the degrading images received
from our country is the only reason they have a hatred for America.We couldnot havean entertainment
industry or have one totally G rated in the purest sense and the hatred of our country would not be diminished.
They hate us for a lot of reasons, we back Israel, or we did as of this morning, we are a Christian Nation,
in spite of what Obama says and one of the biggest reasons, we are not an Islam Nation. Our admittedly debased movie and television industries are just an excuse to gin up the hatred even more. While I agree it would be nice to not have the entertainment industry such a provocative instrument in the war for the hearts and minds,
I don't believe it would make an iota of difference to the Islamists of the world one way or another.
I really can't fathom the thinking that went into the timing of the release. So, of course, the Industry blames the star. I'm not a big fan of Jim Carrey's, but I don't think the failure or success of this movie is truly on his shoulders.
I don't see movies in theaters anymore for all the reasons people stated here: too much liberal propoganda, too much sticking a knife in the back of normal Americans, too expensive, the Hollywood movies stink for the most part (I see maybe one or two a year now in theaters), and too much commotion going on in the seats (people taking out their cells phones to receive text messages, small children with parents in R rated movies, etc.).
I just learned today that Danny Glover is in the movie 2012…I will NOT see this movie. He's one of the most anti-American actors in Hollywood. I will not give him another red cent of my money. Having said this, I don't think Hollywood is going to change that much because the rest of the world is either socialist or just hates us and they can appeal to that audience, which is a lot bigger than the audience of decent, regular Americans like us. So, we will need to seek out alternative films, old films, and perhaps – as someone mentioned – foreign films that do not have any blantant indoctrination in them or anti-Americanism.
Come on folks, just quit spending money on Hollywood. And quit watching the lame crap that is on TV. There are plenty of old classic movies to watch and old shows on tv. Think of it this way, would you want to bring in the garbage can that has been in the sun for two weeks and empty it in your living room? Would you? What is the difference with what they call entertainment and that? Why let their crap into your minds? Be very selective what you watch and let them go broke. Then we can give them a stimulus to move to Venezuela!
Heck yeah! Too true too true!
Plus it's just easier to watch things at home anymore, especially for those of us with small kids who you couldn't take to a theater anyway. Last movie I saw in Theaters was Star Trek.
Is this joe biden?
If the studios are getting the return on investment they want who cares if they pay them a trillion dollars? It's not my money. I don't see how limiting payroll because it SEEMS to be alot of money is good for anyone. Furthermore, if people want to pay whatever the studios charge to see the movie, who cares? Again, it's not my money that people are spending. As long as you can deliver the goods why not get a big fat paycheck?
I have to agree with you there. My wife is from Australia and when she came to the USA she had some rather interesting revelations. She still does because I don't live in the big city. Heck we live near LA and it's not like they tell you it is on TV.
I agree the story will be tripe, but my wife and I are both into 3D animation so we'll probably see it. (Not sure if I'll see it in theaters but yeah see it)
"Negative Vibes Moriarity. Stop it with the negative vibes."
That was a great one. I love most of John Wayne's movies (there are a few stinkers of course) so I look forward to introducing my daughter (she's 11 months old) to the Duke. And other great movie classics.
What about "The Quiet Man" and "McClintock." Two to add to your Wayne Library.
Agree totally. Getting it on Blueray on Tuesday!
/Agree totally.
I'm in agreement with most everyone here. I also have to say that while I don't agree with pirating I can see why more and more folks are doing that than paying to see movies.
Heck with the way some of these folks have things set-up you can see the films on your home theater systems while they're still playing in theaters!
Theater Movie releases are slowly going away, and the theaters have to come up with some other reason to get our butts into the seats as the movies themselves just aren't cutting it.
As an Australian, I can tell you we're not all that keen on Cate Blanchett over here. I will never pay to watch a movie with her in the starring role.
As an American, you should do a little research on Cates' opinion of Americans. Rather sad when you know that her father was an American.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind...
If you read the linked article, I believe you will also be as disgusted as most of us here in Aus, about the play she's about to "star" in.
She's also an AGW believer, who preaches to we, the "unconverted".
There are a lot more articles if you would like to read some.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/ind...
She is NOT the person you think she is.
Yes, Rickman is excellent — a Brit. It's difficult to come up with comparable American actors. Forrest Whitaker maybe, Morgan Freeman before he started making a career of playing brilliant presidents or CEOs. Clint Eastwood is a possible, but he's nearing the end of his career as is Jack Nicholson. Frankly, other than the Brits, Aussies and/or a Scot (Gerard Butler), I can't think of a single actor who "draws me in". Thanks to discovering Nolte and BH, I wait until I read the reviews, then make up my mind — but it's rarely if ever on "who's in it". As when I was younger, Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn, Peter O'Toole would be names that if they were in the film, I'd consider going.
"But I disagree that the degrading images received from our country is the only reason they have a hatred for America."
You need to re-read my comments as I NEVER made the claim of "only reason" anywhere.
Not to worry – I saw the film yesterday and it was pretty good. Danny Glover isn't in it much, but if his performance is what passes for acting nowadays, Hollywood should be ready for MY closeup. He sounds like Calypso Louie Farrakhan. Otherwise, a pretty exciting piece of fluff. I didn't note any political POV, even with the Woody Harrelson character.
Yes, Crowe is another one. Guy Pearce is an excellent actor, tho' he's disappeared recently. I tho't he was better than Crow in "LA Confidential". David Straithairn doesn't get enough work. I like Hugh Jackman tho' he hasn't been in many good movies. I saw him in "The Boy From Oz" on Broadway, and he was stupendous. A tribute to his talent is that the show closed after he had his run. But as I mentioned above, they're Aussies (save for Straithairn). Where are the American actors? Oh, I know. They're all in DC stumping for Obama.
I'm aware of Blanchette's politics. She's a drip. Didn't know her father was an American. She's one of the few who is SO GOOD I manage to ignore her foot and mouth disease. That will end, of course, the more she opens her mouth and lets me know just how stupid she really is when writers aren't putting words in her mouth. Streep is an actress I absolutely despise (as an actor). Everytime she opens her mouth, I heard the dreadful opening of "Out of Africa", the "I had a farm in Africa…" in that phony Danish accent. (My grandfather was a Dane). I HATE her accents, absolutely can't stand them. And she's most renown for them. Of course, whose reviews were the only one's we had access to before BH? THE Liberales! Thanks for the links.
I support boycotts. They're the equivalent of "voting with your feet". The problem always has been that WE did not support the companies being boycotted by the Race Mongers. We should have stuck up for them. Just like the Liberales ought to stick up for our silent boycott of certain actors and spend THEIR hard earned money sitting in a theatre. I'm smiling thinking of John Francais Kerry and his fright haired raisin eating wife standing in line at the Cineplex to buy a ticket to the latest Sean Penn propaganda vehicle. Or maybe "Che" starring Benito de Toro-mierda. Oops. Shouldn't have written that. It's late. Gotta go to bed.
I haven't been to the movie theater since February. I use to go every weekend only a few years ago. I sometimes would see two movies in a weekend. If I loved the movie I would go see it again. Not anymore. Movies come out on DVD so fast there is no reason to go unless it's for a night out. Movies at the theater are $10 now around here! I spend around $20 for blockbuster online and rent like 24 a month. I can buy them used from block buster sometimes cheaper than even renting them. I also don't want to give money to actors and an industry that hates it's customers.
"People go to see a movie based on the content."
Or stay away because of it.
Keep smoking Sean. Keep smoking.
Sorry, I guess I assumed because of the dislike you've shown for the Industry that it is
a major concern of yours. I still think that while it is not a very good window on our world
it really doesn't change a thing in their minds if it's there or not.
I am not an appologist for the industry and have concerns as you have but as far as it impacts Islam, I don't really care. The rest of the world deserves better tho.
Ha ha ha! No TARP for A-listers!
Agree with you about Streep. groaaan.
I used to think the same way about Blanchett but, the last few movies she's made, apart from wearing a wig and some fake facial hair to look like Bob Dylan, have seen her acting become very one-dimensional.
Even if I had any wavering thoughts about paying to see her, they were destroyed completely when she decided to do the play about Caylee Anthony.
Caylee's murder and disposal were so heinous, it reached us here in Australia.
No amount of brilliant performances will excuse this one performance.
Hollywood has two BIG problems:
1) They have the budgets for incredible sets, locations, CG, costume design is incredible – perfection even, but STORIES??? One drivel after another. Then, incredibly, rehash old drivel! Same old, same old.
2) Second generation Hollywood princes and princesses – average actors getting top slots that they normally would get beat out in open competition with talent – but they have CONNECTIONS and PULL.
How many years do we get the same movie TWICE? TWO movies about MARS? Two CG movies about ANTS? TWO movies about Scottish rebels? Huh? This year- TWO CG movies about … mean old military Earthings bullying Smurfs .. Indians…ugh! … guys who fall in love with Disney's Pocahontas . on another planet?
Hollywood should have never started paying anyone $20 million per film and they should be spending more money on decent scripts. Maybe they'll figure that out FINALLY? Especially when indy upstarts keep embarrassing them time and time again. See Paranormal Activity.
Hollywood should have never started paying anyone $20 million per film and they should be spending more money on decent scripts. Maybe they'll figure that out FINALLY? Especially when indy upstarts keep embarrassing them time and time again. See Paranormal Activity.
What play was this????
I seriously think some of these stars need to be introduced to a month's worth of working the crime scene tech beat – one of my best friends is a crime scene tech and the horrific things she has to witness would make most people lose their minds. I dont know how she handles it. To hear about these actors excuse heinous crimes and play-act like these people are on the same level as normal society deserves temporary internment in the hell they dont see.
I wouldn't come down on just ANY actors who publicly espouse political views I don't agree with. It's those who do it with nasty, self rightious hatred, the ones who specifically spew venom at all things conservative or traditional or christian that I will keep my dollars from. If I skipped every film, book, or album that featured a democrat involved somewhere there would be no film, book, or album left to enjoy. But when someone like Natalie Portman says "meat eaters are the same as rapists," well yeah, she goes on the list. (Actually her participation in the raping of Star Wars alone is enough to go on the list…)
As great as the Alstair Sim version is, I like the old movie with Reginald Owen, equally as much.
"Maybe the dingo ate your baby!"
I know I'm not the only one who is exceedlingly weary of being forced to hear so-called celebritries spout off on their political beliefs. People go to a movie to be entertained, not propagandized by an indiot with with microphone.
if the "a" list "stars" would learn to keep their traps shut when off screen, their ticket sales might actually increase.
Because it is just not patriotic to take all that money. It is evil and they cannot be allowed to use capitalism. From each according to his abiliyt; to each according to his need. Hollyweird has no *need* so they get nothing.
SOME MAY EVEN FLEE TO CUBA AND VENEZUELA FOR THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH THAT ONLY MONEY COULD BUY
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Promise?
Shouldn't have written what, exactly? I agree with your post!! Especially the line about J Effin Kerry and his raisen eatin wife. I'm LOL!!! Good show, mate. I say good show!!
My folks went out to see "Doubt," and liked it. They said it wasn't a movie I would be interested in. Is "Becoming Jane" about Jane Austin? I think I saw something about it, or a similar title on Encore the other day w/Ann Hathaway, but didn't watch.
Read up on Jimmy Stewat's WWII combat history – not only was he a commensurate actor and true gentleman, he went from private to Colonel in four years flying sorties over Germany.
Among his military awards – The Air Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters and the Distingushed Flying Cross. He retired from the Air Force reserves a Brigadier General.
He was an old man when I became aware of him, but he certainly had that something that draw's you in. He was the real deal. A real patriot. Hollywood will punish any with patriotic inclinations.
Esgaroth, here's a link that should explain it for you,
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/us-out...
I quit going to movies 9 years ago. I have rented maybe a dozen in that time. Rented for content, NOT who was in them. Give me a good book anytime!!!!!!!
It is great to see the disdain for the Hollywood propagandists.
I don't care if the "stars" are A list or Z list, I won't give my hard earned money to the Hollywood industry or the "stars?" who have no class and who obviously hold contempt for America, her people and what America has afforded them. The same goes for the music industry (Streisand, etc.), and the media both print and digital.
The privileged and coddled Hollywood bunch can say whatever they want but they must be willing to suffer the consequences of alienating and offending the hands that feed them.
I have to admit that I still go to movies ( admitting, like an AA member).
But a good book? Any time.
Jack Nicholson does that for me. He's ALWAYS good – even in a mediocre film like "The Bucket List".
Its not the execs anymore that make the decisions to "green light" films. Its the MARKETING Adept. i KID YOU NOT. I just recently left working for Lion's Gate after 13 years and its all down to marketing – NOT quality. If they think they can come up with a clever or ingenious marketing campaign it gets green lighted regardless of script or star.
There are exceptions where script, director and stars are top notch to begin with (The Dark Knight) and it lends itself to marketing but most films are duds from Day 1 – but if marketing says "OK" it gets made. That's how Hollywood thinks now. Its sad really. Gone are the days that Hollywood put out far less films but far better films – took the time to get a great script, great director and great starts. Now its all down to the fast buck.
Kit check out FORGOTTEN HEROE it is 'Objective Burma meets Kelly's Heroes in Vietnam. My film has no F bombs in it. http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com
leeta support http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com made by a conservative filmmaker
Death of CURRENT has-been Hollywood Stars — Hurray! I have been bored with their sunken faces for years now. I love to see REAL acting. It does not have to come from the Hollywood monopoly union of "stars". The has-beens and their children have had an easy ride for too long. I want to see real talent from anyone who has real talent for my entertainment dollar.
Agreed…would like to add – if prissy elitist jerks get Oscars, then ALL the people in the film get a little gold statue. ALL OF THEM. If an actor is made Knight of the Realm, then ALL the people who have paid to see said Actor should be made knights (and ladies) of the realm. Why do THEY get to sit on their high horse and preach the gospel of communism/socialism, but get to take home distinguishing gifts? SHARE THE WEALTH you pigs!
Thank you Pogria – the best thing I can say is absolutely no class. Typical. Am glad that Ozzies are speaking up against it!
I'm inclined to think they go to see the special effects, explosions and hear the "F" word. that's all modern day movies consist of anyway.
Me too, GS, cause I bought all the different versions of Christmas Carol on DVD from Amazon. I'm a big fan of the Alistair Sim one too.
So do I. The Owen one is my wife's favorite. Although I understand it's not very faithful to Dickens' novel. Good movie anyway.
Have you ever noticed that in those two versions, the "F" word doesnt show up at all, and there are no explosions? Wonder how they became successful?
One thing's for sure – I wont be paying 20 bucks to see this loser. If I watch it all it will be on PPV.
I've been watching a couple of good westerns on Hallmark channel. They are made in Canada with Canadian actors, the story and the acting is pretty good. Watched a good one last night – The Ranger, The Cook, and the Hole In The Sky (http://www.imdb.com/find?q=the+ranger%2C+the+cook... This one was American made.
I have asked for the Gene Autry box collection from Amazon for Christmas
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Check out Turner Classic Movies Channel – they're always running some of Stewart's early stuff. And I agree – JS was and is a true American hero. Can you see anybody in Hollywierd flying missions over Afghanistan these days? Me neither.
I think Will Smith is my favorite actor. He can play different rolls, keeps his mouth shut about where he stands with politics (as far as I can see) and doesn't act like a pompous ass to the people that support his movies.
I met two real movie stars this weekend. They were gracious and dignified throughout the production.
They were also a product of the studio system.
I say bring back the studio system.
What I don't see mentioned in the article is that many of the high budget A-list star driven movies are not very good movies no matter who the star is. It is hard to make good money on bad movies; especially high budget films which require a broad appeal audience to recoup their investment.
I refuse to pay to see entertainment brought to me by LIBTARDS. And even more, I refuse to support idiot LIBTARD actors with my money. Once I know their politics are liberal-they're toast to me.
No one said that life is fair.
LOL! I second that!!! Just seeing Sean Penn's name listed in the credits is enough to make me not want to see it. I always ask the question: "Does he die in this movie?". If he does, maybe… If not, then… Well… NOT!
The only movie I could stand to see him in was "Fast Times at Ridgemont High". He plays himself, of course…
The studio executives are notorious for being overpaid crooks. They give themselves $100 million salaries then thru shady bookeeping they claim their movie did not make a profit . Stars such as James Garner have had to sue to get their money.
I can't even tell you the last time I've been to a movie. I use to like Barbara S. but she had to open her mouth so good-bye to her and her music. If she comes on the radio I turn it off. George Ca and the rest of those so called stars would strave if they depended on me. Why don't the go live in some Marisx country and see how much money they make. These dictators use them for their own good and drop them. They make too much money and don't care about anyone else. Let them get a life.
I stayed home on Saturday night and watched "Cats 101" on Animal Planet. Now that was entertaining!
So, why do studios make anti-American movies like "Valley of Elah", "Redacted", "LIons for Lambs", and "Stop-Loss"? Why do actors like Billy Zane and Gary Busey act in foreign propaganda like "In the Valley of the Wolves"? In the latter turkey (literally a turkey, it was a Turkish production), Busey plays a Jewish American doctor who kills Iraqi civilians to harvest their organs to give to rich Americans and Israelis. How classy.
With a little research, I found out that "Lions for Lambs" grossed under $15 million in the United States. Yet, it grossed $48 million in the foreign market, thus turning a profit over its $35million budget. On the other hand, "Redacted" cost $5 million to make and grossed a pitiful $65,000. In the Valley of Elah cost $23 milion and grossed $24 million worldwide.
Absolutely. When the actor overlaps the character on the screen I no longer pay to see that actor. Period. And that includes Clooney, Damon, Ferrell and others. My own personal boycott is based on my own non-enjoyment of what my hard earned money is spent on.
Political Correctness is destroying entertainment. Almost every film made today is a preaching of a bullshit liberal ideology.
I believe you can create a good R-rated film, with profanity used sparingly, a great plot, mid-level actors, and a very reasonable budget.
I love Apocalypse Now and The Godfather, because they had very good stories and brilliant cinematography. I'm also a big Kubrick fan. I could care less what the director's politics were, on a personal level. But when they start using resources to produce leftist-propaganda, that's where I draw the line. They are capable of making classics, but they are still putting out giant steaming turds.
In The Valley of the Wolves sounds like something that would be produced by Goebbels' propaganda ministry.
Those wacky anti-semites!
It is a chick-flick that is supposedly about a moment in time for Jane Austen that apparently, according to the film, seems to have switched her from being a so-so writer to the clever, whitty and engaging novelist and also explains how she came to be in the area of romance (I do not want to be a spoiler in case you do not know what happened in her life).
Two things: I started to not care whether Jane and Lefroy got together (not a good sign) and midway thru the film my husband went out to walk the dog.
Doubt might be unpalatable if you are a devout Catholic. I am not, but am Christian and it did not offend me, but I am not Catholic. I thought it was one of the better films I had seen in a while. One flaw I saw was Streep's character was a bit of a caricature of a nun as schoolmarm.
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I love Rickman.
How 'bout Denzel Washington?
He's a classy guy by all accounts.
This is great – Capitalism at it's best. Market forces determine how much they're worth… Which in my opinion 'aint much at all
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If you want to read a hilarious review of this movie, go to Hillbuzz.org. There is a woman by the name of Patty Melt that reviews movies occasionally for this site. She is a hoot, and from flyover country. If Hollywood would greenlight writers on the par of this lady, movies wouldn't do so poorly.
Sigh … I didn't know she was another of those "elevated" thespian souls spouting their genius to the dullard masses. T'is a pity; it will make me think twice now before shelling out for her new flicks.
BTW, add Geoffrey Rush to the list of actors I enjoy in just about anything (yep, another Aussie.) You guys do seem to have the edge on truly multi-faceted actors; is it something in the Vegemite?
The movies aren't very good, simple as that. Just not entertaining. I think many people are content to just watch movies in their home theatre set-ups, too.
People that say it is anything political are wrong.
Geoffrey Rush is good, and he keeps his lefty proclivities to himself, which is a nod in his direction.
Vegemite is disgusting! I suppose that makes me only 99% Aussie! hahaha
Reason, I also enjoy Jack Nicholson, and you're right, he is good in everything without even trying.
One of my absolute favourite actors from your neck of the woods is John Lithgow. He is another who just can't seem to give a bad performance.
I believe John Lithgow is highly underrated.
Hollywood should also can the A-list voice actors in cartoons who add NOTHING to a character while putting A-list *voice* actors (such as Billy West) out of a job.
Steven Steven Seagal's best role in a movie was in Executive Decision when he died in the first 20 minutes.
I'll say that if a movie has Clint Eastwood in it or making it I will most likely pay to watch it. But that is about it.
I agree about Denzel, but Will Smith has voiced his love and admiration for all things BO quite enough for me. I don't think Smith is that good of an actor either. He is getting rather full of himself as of late.
I would favor movies with Clint Eastwood, Russell Crowe, and Mel Gibson. I like them and they don't expect me to put up with their liberal ideas when they aren't on screen.
I'm not Catholic either, but most of the people I grew up with are, my sister-in-law is. So I look on at the anti-Catholic movies and such with a little skeptiism, even though I grew up hearing a plethora of complaints about the church from my friends. Also the pedophilia angle the story appears to have aint my cup of tea.
Thanks for the heads up on the Jane Austen thing, haven't read any of her books, but stocked them many times while working in a bookstore many years ago. I'm secure enough in my hetrosexuality to dig a chick flick if it is a good story.
LOL!!! It's NOT a good sign when your husband walks out in the middle of a movie to do of all things walk the dog, and even worse sign would be it there were a torrential rainstorm outside at the same time, LOL!!! Cheers!
Jack, thank you for the link. I know quite a few people that would love this, besides myself, and you have provided me with a great idea for Christmas.
CNN fact checks an SNL skit on Obama, then the Obama administration treats Jon Stewart like a journalist.
Oh, wait…knowing how journalists operate, Stewart is better than most of them, and I can barely stomach him. How the news industry has fallen.
I'm not surprised. Profit is second…or so it seems. The message is first. They think everyone should buy the message, and are absolutely flabbergasted when we don't. Remember, it's not poor quality coming out of H-wood, it's the poor mental quality that we all exhibit.
I have to put in a statement after knowing I voiced a positive for old Clint. I watched but hated Mystic River because of Penn. I also don't think I will watch his latest film starring Matt Daemon. I've gotten very tired of Matt and just can't stand Penn. But saying this I will still like Eastwood and loved him in Grand Toreno (sp?). Now. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Yeah, no one saw "The Proposal" because Sandra Bullock was in.
Who said anything about excusing heinous crimes? Please advise.
Please, Santa, put that bullet in Carolyn's mouth and make that old wench shut up once and for all. Haha! Santa, please!
(Note how stupid my remark sounds. Yours is just as idiotic.)
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