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		<title>By: buy just dance 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>buy just dance 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 23:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: concerned reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... you do realize that the marxist robots were comic relief, right?  They were in the movie to be laughed at, and in the end all of their efforts amounted to nothing....   
 
Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that the anti-war stuff would have more to do with Japanese passivism since the U.S. dropped atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII, especially since Toby, Dr. Tenma&#039;s son, gets vaporized right at the beginning of the movie, just like many people did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  This sort of thing is actually very standard in Japanese entertainment.  For example, Godzilla is produced by hazardous effects of the atom bomb on the environment, etc.   
 
And, in case you are wondering, I have voted for the Republican candidate for president in every election so far.  I am closer to being a libertarian than a communist, and I certainly support family values.  I just happen to think that this sort of paranoia may be a little unfounded guys. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; you do realize that the marxist robots were comic relief, right?  They were in the movie to be laughed at, and in the end all of their efforts amounted to nothing&#8230;.   </p>
<p>Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that the anti-war stuff would have more to do with Japanese passivism since the U.S. dropped atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII, especially since Toby, Dr. Tenma&#039;s son, gets vaporized right at the beginning of the movie, just like many people did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  This sort of thing is actually very standard in Japanese entertainment.  For example, Godzilla is produced by hazardous effects of the atom bomb on the environment, etc.   </p>
<p>And, in case you are wondering, I have voted for the Republican candidate for president in every election so far.  I am closer to being a libertarian than a communist, and I certainly support family values.  I just happen to think that this sort of paranoia may be a little unfounded guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Roaring Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roaring Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The manga that this movie Astro Boy was based on was all about anti-discrimination, cast in a sci-fi/fantasy world where robots were the downtrodden and scientists, politicians and criminals the evil masters (there were good masters too - in fact, Astro himself never really lobbied for his own independence, content for the most part to serve humanity - because he loved it. He was a boy hero who wanted to help people, and often used his fists to do it. What&#039;s Marxist about that?) I think this whole issue has been overblown. Osamu Tezuka, the creator of Astro Boy, was a fan of compassionate capitalism and hated communism. He&#039;d be flabbergasted at the whole idea of his creation being characterized as a shill for the left. 
 
Just enjoy the movie, people! It&#039;s ENTERTAINMENT.  Just like the manga. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The manga that this movie Astro Boy was based on was all about anti-discrimination, cast in a sci-fi/fantasy world where robots were the downtrodden and scientists, politicians and criminals the evil masters (there were good masters too &#8211; in fact, Astro himself never really lobbied for his own independence, content for the most part to serve humanity &#8211; because he loved it. He was a boy hero who wanted to help people, and often used his fists to do it. What&#039;s Marxist about that?) I think this whole issue has been overblown. Osamu Tezuka, the creator of Astro Boy, was a fan of compassionate capitalism and hated communism. He&#039;d be flabbergasted at the whole idea of his creation being characterized as a shill for the left. </p>
<p>Just enjoy the movie, people! It&#039;s ENTERTAINMENT.  Just like the manga.</p>
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		<title>By: cloudbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>cloudbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ll come back and read this thread, but thanks for a mature, thoughtful discussion. It encouraged me to think and consider my arguments, and that&#039;s always a good thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ll come back and read this thread, but thanks for a mature, thoughtful discussion. It encouraged me to think and consider my arguments, and that&#039;s always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: cloudbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>cloudbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A central doctrine of Christianity is that we all have sinned and fall short of God&#039;s standard and that we require Christ&#039;s sacrifice to pay for that sin, but I&#039;d disagree that it&#039;s a central tenet that we can&#039;t recognize the chief problem -- I think it&#039;s in Ephesians somewhere, I could be wrong, that it says that the truth is written in all our hearts. We all recognize the problem deep down, and it&#039;s up to us individually to make that choice. 
 
Also, had they been left to their own devices? The movie takes place in a future earth, so presumably there was a Christ and a Bible. What happened to them? 
 
Christianity is not a religion of helpless sufferers, it&#039;s a religion of people who recognize the truth, recognize their place in the scheme of things, show gratitude for what is offered, and then stand by those truths and that gratitude even when things get rough. I&#039;ve never been fond of the sack-cloth-and-ashes version of Christianity where some constantly flagellate themselves and focus on how sinful they are. The great Christians I&#039;ve seen throughout history all seemed to have said to themselves, &quot;Yes, I&#039;m fallen and imperfect, and I thank God for my salvation -- now what can I *do*?&quot; 
 
The movie doesn&#039;t just depict humans as spiritually vacuous, but physically, emotionally, socially and morally weak, too. I don&#039;t know. I guess people have gotten so wrapped up in their fallenness and sin before -- the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah -- and there have even been some cases, such as in Job, where someone interceded and saved a sinful population. 
 
Yet this movie still offends me. Compare to another explicitly Christian allegory, the Chronicles of Narnia. Aslan requires so much more of the fallen humans to whom he reveals himself. Compare the redemption of Edmund, for example, with the bland good intentions of the ship&#039;s caption in Wall-E. Edmund took responsibility for his own sin, suffered the consequences of it and emerged better for it. He&#039;s not a bumbling comedic figure. I haven&#039;t seen Wall-E since it came out, but I remember feeling at the time that the Captain&#039;s &quot;redemption&quot; went far less than halfway. He was no Edmund. 
 
If there was a redemptive message, the fact that all the really hard work went on &quot;off-screen&quot; in the credits demeans the message. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A central doctrine of Christianity is that we all have sinned and fall short of God&#039;s standard and that we require Christ&#039;s sacrifice to pay for that sin, but I&#039;d disagree that it&#039;s a central tenet that we can&#039;t recognize the chief problem &#8212; I think it&#039;s in Ephesians somewhere, I could be wrong, that it says that the truth is written in all our hearts. We all recognize the problem deep down, and it&#039;s up to us individually to make that choice. </p>
<p>Also, had they been left to their own devices? The movie takes place in a future earth, so presumably there was a Christ and a Bible. What happened to them? </p>
<p>Christianity is not a religion of helpless sufferers, it&#039;s a religion of people who recognize the truth, recognize their place in the scheme of things, show gratitude for what is offered, and then stand by those truths and that gratitude even when things get rough. I&#039;ve never been fond of the sack-cloth-and-ashes version of Christianity where some constantly flagellate themselves and focus on how sinful they are. The great Christians I&#039;ve seen throughout history all seemed to have said to themselves, &quot;Yes, I&#039;m fallen and imperfect, and I thank God for my salvation &#8212; now what can I *do*?&quot; </p>
<p>The movie doesn&#039;t just depict humans as spiritually vacuous, but physically, emotionally, socially and morally weak, too. I don&#039;t know. I guess people have gotten so wrapped up in their fallenness and sin before &#8212; the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah &#8212; and there have even been some cases, such as in Job, where someone interceded and saved a sinful population. </p>
<p>Yet this movie still offends me. Compare to another explicitly Christian allegory, the Chronicles of Narnia. Aslan requires so much more of the fallen humans to whom he reveals himself. Compare the redemption of Edmund, for example, with the bland good intentions of the ship&#039;s caption in Wall-E. Edmund took responsibility for his own sin, suffered the consequences of it and emerged better for it. He&#039;s not a bumbling comedic figure. I haven&#039;t seen Wall-E since it came out, but I remember feeling at the time that the Captain&#039;s &quot;redemption&quot; went far less than halfway. He was no Edmund. </p>
<p>If there was a redemptive message, the fact that all the really hard work went on &quot;off-screen&quot; in the credits demeans the message.</p>
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		<title>By: cloudbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>cloudbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was being snarky with the Obama comment. Didn&#039;t mean to imply it was an actual metaphor in the film. I was just riffing on the whole Obama as messiah thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was being snarky with the Obama comment. Didn&#039;t mean to imply it was an actual metaphor in the film. I was just riffing on the whole Obama as messiah thing.</p>
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		<title>By: k8blujay</title>
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		<dc:creator>k8blujay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm... well I hope the creators of Open Season never go to Missouri then.... becuase they might not come back.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230; well I hope the creators of Open Season never go to Missouri then&#8230;. becuase they might not come back..</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolfArcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoneWolfArcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, and in fact one whole point of the film was that the humans were happy in their ignorance! As long as their base needs were met, they had no ambition. This is antithetical to the God given human-spirit within us. Only the lazy are happy with their base needs being met, and the vast majority of us are not lazy (unlike portrayed in the film). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, and in fact one whole point of the film was that the humans were happy in their ignorance! As long as their base needs were met, they had no ambition. This is antithetical to the God given human-spirit within us. Only the lazy are happy with their base needs being met, and the vast majority of us are not lazy (unlike portrayed in the film).</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolfArcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoneWolfArcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, and in fact one whole point of the film was that the human&#039;s were happy in their ignorance! As long as their base needs were met, they had no ambition. This is antithetical to the God given human-spirit within us. Only the lazy are happy with their base needs being met, and the vast majority of us are not lazy (unlike portrayed in the film). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, and in fact one whole point of the film was that the human&#039;s were happy in their ignorance! As long as their base needs were met, they had no ambition. This is antithetical to the God given human-spirit within us. Only the lazy are happy with their base needs being met, and the vast majority of us are not lazy (unlike portrayed in the film).</p>
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		<title>By: LoneWolfArcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoneWolfArcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much more subtlety so. Open Season was in your face: hunters are evil rednecks bent on killing anything that walks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much more subtlety so. Open Season was in your face: hunters are evil rednecks bent on killing anything that walks.</p>
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