Michael Moore On ‘Hannity’
by Big HollywoodParts II , III, and discussion points after the jump:
Sean Hannity and Michael Moore had a discussion of sorts on ‘Hannity’ tonight. It was certainly an event to see Moore on a conservative’s show (much like Al Gore, Moore is notorious for not going toe to toe with prominent conservatives). The conversation itself seemed disjointed and a lot time was spent by both Hannity and Moore jockeying to set the agenda instead of clarifying and challenging differences. Moore came off as plenty appealing, a jovial and confidant representative for his side, but just as with Obama’s speeches, you would get a completely different perception of the man and his ideas if you read what he said instead of watched it. And by different, we mean nauseating.
More analysis from Big Hollywood contributors is likely to follow, but we’re turning you all loose now. Some discussion bullet points:
-“I’m not a multi-multi millionaire.” -Michael Moore
-Apparently our foes in the Middle East are perpetually on monkey bars….?
-Christians are in no position to judge the 9/11 terrorists.
-Is there a conservative on Earth who could get away with invoking God and religion as much as Moore does?
-Hannity was soft on Moore. Good or bad move?
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Hannity was too soft on Moore. Moore, like a typical liberal "talked over" Hannity to avoid confrontation. I'd grade it a soft "B". Moore should just move to Cuba. He will be so much happier there.
Urgh. That was disturbing. Hannity should have hit him hard and slammed him. He didnt do that. He was ok in parts, but not strong enough.
Hannity is a lightweight…he was no match for Michael Moore. Michael tore him to shreds…..and he's a liar and was called on it….couldn't remember a 2 day old sermon??? Go home Hannity, you've just been punked!
This could be a short comment thread. That is, if very many BH commenters are like me, and wouldn't watch Moore unless paid vast sums of money to do so.
It is possible Moore passed some smelly hot-dog gas asphyxiating Hannity into a subdued mode?
Although I tend to be conservative in my politics and values, I'm afraid that I don't find Hannity to be the greatest debater on the planet. I think that Rush is much more skilled at debating liberals. Hannity simply repeats talking points, but he doesn't point out the flaws and inconsistencies in his opponents' arguments. In his debate with Moore, he allowed Moore to control the agenda much of the time. Moore was easily able to evade Hannity's attempts to pin him down and was able to shift the focus of the discussion away from the points that Hannity was attempting to make.
I will say this about Moore going on to Sean Hannity's show (with the pun very well intended): He's got GUTS. A lesser liberal would have cried bloody murder and ran off the set in the first five seconds.
I tend to agree with Hannity on the substance, but Moore wiped the floor with him. Hannity is probably the least effective high-profile debater on the right. Moore is a very effective communicator, as he proved tonight. And gotta love Moore's new Christian shtick. (Sarcasm, btw.)
Someone (obviously, it's not going to be Hannity) needs to point out that religion is a personal matter, not a national one. We are called on to act compassionately as individuals, not as some amorphous collective. When nation-states get into the act too deep, unintended consequences happen, blunders are magnified, incentives are distorted, and people suffer.
Capitalism, with a decent but not excessive safety net, is the most compassionate economic system in human history as it generates more prosperity than any other. And speaking of bad economic systems, what was with the Internationale in Moore's movie? How come Hannity didn't ask about that?
mmoore pulled an obama – whenever he gets Real American kind questions that he cant/wont answer, then he dances………… dances………… dances, without saying anything, cuz he knows, as obama liar knows, the clock is the friend of mmoore liar/obama liar on a "real" news show such any of the Fox channel stuff
when a Real American askes a real question – mmoore liar, as obama liar, will do the ……. humeda ….. humeda ………. humeda
I was so mad when Moore kept trying to make the case that all the people who bought homes were victims. I realize that there can be a lot of deceptive loan contracts out there, but even then, when you're making a major decision like this one, you should know full well what you're getting yourself into. If you don't have adequate money and/or education on the housing market, then you should stay the heck away from it. I personally have been debt free my entire life because of these choices and it's time for BOTH the American people AND its representatives to show some accountability.
I like Hannity but he came across as whiny and limp wristed compared to Moore. And why was Moore there in the first place? If I wanted to see big fat liberals I'd watch msnbc..
Sean Hannity isn't very bright. I'm not a big fan of Moore but he's no dummy, Hannity is.
As for not going toe to toe with prominent conservatives, I've at least seen Moore take on Bill O'Reilly and you can't get much more prominent than that.
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I think Moore is a very talented liar and con man who discovered early in life that he could gain wealth, respect and prestige by posing as this bleeding-heart left-wing crusader.
IIRC, shortly after Roger & Me came out, Moore basically admitted to Film Comment magazine that the film was a lie because much of the footage of Flint's urban blight was taken *before* GM ordered the layoffs that Moore claimed to be so upset about.
I've never watched a film of his since and couldn't stomach more than the first part of the interview.
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Hannity was playing softball and Moore was playing T-Ball.
When Socialism goes bad millions of citizens lose their lives.
When Capitalism goes bad citizens lose their wallets.
Moore knew exactly what he was doing when he went on Hannity's show. Why not O'Reilly? Because he's more likely to get slammed up against a wall if he went on O'Reilly's show. Hannity is a far-right-wing guy and a lot of people consider him more of a clown than anything else. I tuned into Hannity tonight (something I don't usually do) and just as I figured I would I saw a ping pong match. Please, I haven't seen anything so stupid and pathetic since Jerry Falwell and Larry Flynt were on the same stage and Falwell was practically lovin' up Flynt while Flynt made a fool of him, laughing under his breath and exposing him as a punchline.!
I just wish the conservatives wouldn't pander to Hollywood at all. Let the left do that! You can see a lot of glints of "Gee, I wish Hollywood people would pay some attention to ME and FOX "and I think it makes them less admirable and less respectable than what they could and should be!
Hannity was pig-headed when blaming the home borrowers (episode 3 here). We KNOW many ppl were tricked into signing mortgages they couldn't possibly maintain. And no, a lot of regular ppl CANNOT AFFORD TO HIRE LAWYERS. Also, lawyers aren't always honest!
The credit default swaps were the biggest problem and Moore is right. Why did Hannity press this issue? Hannity comes across as stupid, simplistic and juvenile.
I wish Greta had done the interview. She's fair and intelligent.
I think the Christian thing is Moore's way of slamming it to the right (Alinsky rule #whatever: Make them live by their own rules.) Sounds like he caught Hannity on not going to church! But then again, Dear Leader – supposedly so devout – doesn't go either.
John Nolte put is best when he talked about why Moore was someone you DON'T was batting for your team….
His work offers a pin-hole perspective on issues far more complex than he deigns to acknowledge. Yeah, Hannity could have pushed his buttons a bit harder, but to what end? Has anyone been able to get the man to admit that an alternate view may warrant consideration? Specifically, get him to engage in a constructive debate as opposed to a glorified soap box?
The whole dynamic of God and Religion is in the same realm as Propaganda. When it comes to Left and Right partisan culture, these are taboo subjects unless the goal is provocation. In my experience, it is NOT okay for a conservative to invoke God or Religion, nor is it okay to engage in "Right Wing" Propaganda. Moore is a liberal champion. Consequently, different rules apply to him. Talking about God and 'making millions' off his "Left Wing" Propaganda is perfectly acceptable, if not laudable.
Looking forward to the BH Commentary and thank you for all the great coverage.
The terrorists "…are only criminals who commited a mass murder of 3000 people." ???
The panic of '08 did not have ONE single cause, it was the perfect storm of several things, starting with CRA, NINJA loans, banks passing the toxic loans to Fannie and Freddie, derivatives, etc. The blame starts at the bottom and goes all the way up.
i don't get moore. he's a liberal. supports gay rights and other liberal doctrines which are entirely contrary to what Jesus said and wants to defend regimes that killed millions????? and slam a system which has provided an environment whereby he had the opportunity to succeed???? and now pulls the Christian angle?????? what Christian angle???? it's practically impossible to be a liberal and a Christian. and then there's the lies in his other docs too. oh my.
Hannity proves again, he's just a Wall Banger – I'd like to see Savage interview Moore
Sean Hannity has spent many years debating on the air with Liberal Pundits like Alan Colmes. His interview style is not to confront liberals and grind his point of view home in 30 minutes, although he can do that. Hannity seems more inclined to open a dialogue, find some common ground and then begin dissecting. Moore is slippery, Sean will score next time.
Very well said!!
"What would you prefer? Lives or Wallets?" I'd love to hear Moore's take on that one—which would most likely be to avoid the matter entirely.
There ain't gonna be a "next time".
Moore simply gives the leftist loons exactly what they crave in his so-called "documentaries". Then he makes his money off of these same loons the capitalistic way. He uses the Eurowussies the same way….he emulates the fat and arrogant American (as the wussies love to look at us)…..and they pay Moore because he gives them what they crave.
I like Hannity's style of interviewing libtards…..he kills them with kindness and intelligence…..two things libtards know nothing about and can't relate to.
I watched the first part yesterday. Couldn't justify wasting any more time watching this stuff. When Moore was confronted with a question designed to point out his hypocrisy, his standard comeback was "So what's your point?" I can't believe there are people actually dim enough to fall for his so-called documentaries.
Hannity spends more time interrupting guests to promote what's "just ahead on Hannity!". Moore was a fat-ass fish in a barrel and Hannity forget to put water in the barrel.
"I like Hannity's style of interviewing libtards…..he kills them with kindness and intelligence…..two things libtards know nothing about and can't relate to."- NoMoBama
You called them "libtards". Can you explain how that's kindness and intelligence? Please explain to the people on this comment thread which two words "libtards" is derived from.
You obviously don't show the same kindness and intelligence in your comments. Can you also explain who the Eurowussies are? To be honest, I don't want or expect kindness from you, but I sure do want to see a bit more intelligence in your reply.
I am disappointed in Sean for even giving that jackass a microphone. Some people don't deserve to be given an outlet from which to spew their filth. Michael Moore is one of those people.
Hannity is a nice guy, but what a lightweight. When I heard he was going to interview Moore, I knew this was going to be a disaster. Hannity does not like confrontation. I don't mean punching the guy in the face, I mean engaging in thoughtful and serious debate. Hannity goes to the next subject or looks down at his paper when he is hesitant or doesn't know how to reply. Hannity does great things for the troops and heir families, but he really should spend sometime reading and learning. Not just "regurgitating talking points, bumper stickers, and slogans."
I rather see Beck, Rush, Savage, or Levin debate this fat bozo.
You gotta be kidding!!!! Tricked into signing mortgages???!!! I personally know of 2 situations where people owed money that was not reported to the mortgage underwriters (both cases involved court ordered child support) and when they buyer decided they wanted out of the contract, they simply let it be known about their Child Support obligations!!! In the one case it was that the prospective purchaser's girlfriend decided she no longer wanted to live with him and he no longer wanted the house. He was the only person involved in the contract and when he let it be known he owed over $1,000/month in child support (to an ex-wife, not his recent girlfriend), he was turned down mere days before settlement!!! How many other's committed this kind of fraud??? To top it all off, no doc loans exacerbated this situation greatly. People went after the no doc loans precisely because they wouldn't have otherwise qualified. There were very few, if any, who were 'tricked' into signing mortgages.
Hey Holy than thou – you know squat about economics. Earn money, spend money, makes capitalism work. People who acquire debt are the fabric of the system, it encourages them to work harder, earn more, to pay off their debt. Cash based economics limits the growth potential, not expands it. Your 'cash is king' principals works for you because you are conservative and not a risk taker. With risk comes reward, and that is the main engine of capitalism. Besides, your life is boring. We all die penniless. So, go pound sand with all your money in your piggy bank. The housing collapse caught most buyers unaware, since it is the first time in our lifetime that the housing market halved itself within less than a year. So, don't put the blame on the consumer, they are the little fish, the blame goes to those who manipulated the markets related to one of the U.S.'s biggest economic engines – the housing market. This should be cause enough for us to have term limits on elected officials and sweep them out. The U.S. economy reinvents itself and so should our elected officials. Throw the bums out, start over, reinvent, take the best ideas and build a better future. Encourage people to maximize their potential and not be too conservative. Spreading the wealth will keep government from bailing out the needy. Bush was right after 9/11, go shopping and show the rag heads we love our system, we love to work and play with each other, we like to accumulate things, we like comfort, we like toys, we like a nice house, it is what drives us to produce and be a productive member of society, not government control, rules, and some despot telling us what to do.
What has created the "Eurowussie" is now in charge and destroying our capitalist system. A "Libtard" is a common sewer-dwelling Liberal, mentally challenged by common sense. There's plenty of intellegence in this thread, though if you are a "Libtard" you may not be able to see it by definition, you are a "Libtard". I feel no sense of kindness toward "Libtards" nor do I experience any guilt because of it. Next week: How the endangered "Silver Bearded Hippie" destoyed its capitalist environment much like the locusts.
I think you're missing something that our politicians are missing as well: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!! If you get into a home loan, you better make damn sure you can afford it! If you can't, it's no one's fault but your own. Don't try to blame everything on anyone but yourself. God! What is wrong with people? Can anyone take responsibility for their own actions anymore? Whatever happened to the independant American? Take care of yourself. Make your own choices. If you screw up, deal with it!
Moore wouldn't stand a chance. Michael Savage is in a whole other league intellectually.
I watched "Dancing With The Stars" instead. I'd have to be threatened with battery acid to be made to watch two buffoons debate who is the lesser idiot.
I agree completely and that's why Hannity is able to get Moore and other lefties on his show that won't appear on any other Conservative venue.
I wouldn't watch Michael Moore if it was his electrocution.
Moore won this one, Fox and Hannity are losing it. Hannity was broken down and had no counter-punches. Where was his preparation? Moore said he pays his people well, why didn't Sean counter attack and compare paychecks with his high paid staff. Sean left too many Mooreisms get away without challenge. Moore is a typical greedy, listen to me, don't forget about my ideas egotist, but Hannity is weak and not well prepared, showed little depth. Moore had the upper-hand, Hannity was embarrassing.
Hannity needs a better playbook – Capitalism is not dead, it is our savior, compared to the alternatives. Why didn't Hannity ask for Moore's perfect world that has been tried and proven it will last the test of time?
Earn money, spend money, makes capitalism work. People who acquire debt are the fabric of the system, it encourages them to work harder, earn more, to pay off their debt. Cash based economics limits the growth potential, not expands it. Moore personal ideas that 'cash is king' principals works for him because he is actually a practicing conservative and not a risk taker or liberal with his own hard earned money. With risk comes reward, and that is the main engine of capitalism. Besides, his life is boring (he bloviates, as O'Reilly would say). We all die penniless. So, Moore can go pound sand with all his money in his piggy bank.
The housing collapse caught most buyers unaware, since it is the first time in our lifetime that the housing market halved itself within less than a year. So, the blame is not on the consumer, they are the little fish, the blame goes to those who manipulated the markets related to one of the U.S.'s biggest economic engines – the housing market.
The current events should be cause enough for us to have term limits on elected officials and sweep them out. The U.S. economy reinvents itself and so should our elected officials. Throw the bums out, start over, reinvent, take the best ideas and build a better future. Encourage people to maximize their potential and not be too conservative. Spreading the wealth will keep government from bailing out the needy. Bush was right after 9/11, go shopping and show the rag heads we love our system, we love to work, play and enjoy the company of each other, we like to accumulate things, we like comfort, we like toys, we like a nice house, it is what drives us to produce and be a productive member of society, not government control, rules, and some despot telling us what to do.
America – seize this opportunity to wake up and regain control of the ship and steer it into the future with U.S.A. in the lead with no remorse, no guilt, just joyful leadership that all will want to join and be a part of. The good spirit of good people should be what prevails. That is my future, that is what I pray for all.
I watched about 5 minutes of it last night before I had to change the channel. Moore got Sean right away with the first answer. Sean thought he had the upper hand when it came to Christianity but Moore threw him off with his challenge about the last sermon he heard at church. Sean Hannity is not a very good liar. I didn't believe for a second that Hannity went to church on Sunday and when he admitted, finally, that it was actually Saturday night and he didn't remember what the sermon was about, I knew the man was lying. The fact that he couldn't even pretend to remember ANY sermon to get himself out of the hole Moore had let him dig himself into proved to me that he hasn't seen the inside of a Catholic church in awhile. Either that, or he wasn't willing to admit Moore was right about Jesus and his philosophy. Probably a little of both. It was a sorry sight.
I disagree with the comment about O'Reilly being harder on Moore. Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative and he only goes after people who are nobodies. Bill probably would have done better with Moore's Jesus crap, but he wouldn't have been any tougher on him. He would have been so thrilled that Moore came on his show that Moore would need a good long shower to wipe off the butt kisses.
You make some good points but ad hominem attacks on another poster make you sound like those other mean spirited people, you know- liberals!
O'Reilly is the King of Spin; says he saw O'blahblah's birth certificate and never did. Lets the wrong rev Sharpton on his show and never asks when he is going to pay the fine from his defeat in the Tawana Brawley case. O'reilly is a blowhard who occaisionally repeats something amusing.
Moore and Hannity both make millions from entertainment. Their is no difference other than the advertisement funds Hannity gets paid by or hollywood movie funding that Moore gets paid by. As long as they can cause controversy they make money, because we the idiots that listen to them generate it dor them. I used to think Hannity was on top of it all, but after listening to his radio show awhile he has become a redundant whiner, and I can honestly say I have never contributed to Moore's finances, I could care less what he says.
Debating the left is impossible. They operate in an entirely different universe of their own made up "reality". When they debate – they mix truth with lies or their own perception in order to further their agenda or make fun of their opposition. Now that we know that, the first step of the solution is to call them out when they make their first false assertion and not let go until they admit they made a mistake – when they make their second false assertion (which will be the next time they open their mouth) call them out again – by the third time, they will have lost credibility and you will be in control of the debate. This guy needs to debate Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin. People with a clear understanding of the facts and of history. Moore wouldn't last a second. That is why he went on Hannity in the first place – he knew he had an easy target and Hannity, is not an a-hole to people.
Hi Superpower, just to clarify, I was only saying that there was no intelligence in NoMoBama's comment and not the entire thread. Obviously since you feel no guilt about being unkind I'll leave you alone on that front. At least you're not being hypocritical. But alas, your post shows no heart, and that is a sure tell sign of a lack of intelligence. So sadly you are the second person I have to call out. I'm going to give you a chance. Please tell me something proactive (meaning not just putting others down), that you actually do to support either the people around you, your community, or the world at large. You can talk about what others are destroying, but please tell me about the good things that you are building.
My subtle attacks against you are truly because I want to see what your better side has to offer. If you are willing to reply with something legit that will be great! Even if you want to fit in some small minded remarks that relate me to a "sewer-dweller" I won't mind, so long as you actually have something to say this time.
I quit listening to Sean. He memorizes statements and gives them no matter the context….and never ends a sentence.
Rush gives the best interviews I've EVER heard. He ask every question I'd like to hear answered.
I don't know. I'd probably spring for the $49.95 on pay-per-view for that. And I'd make sure my DVR was working…
I think the point of having him on was to get his followers to turn on Fox News, so savaging him wouldn't have been productive. Hopefully they picked up 10,000 new people who want to know how far the rabbit hole goes.
You're right, Hannity was an easy target. Moore was allowed to skirt several issues. One of which was that individuals do have to take a some responsibility for the housing crisis. Though I agree with Moore that it is majorly a systematic issue, we also have to admit that many people where and still are living outside of their means. It's not just poor people that were doing this however, it was people all across the board. We all wanted to live the American dream, but it was just that, a dream. In the end we couldn't afford it. I don't know why Hannity couldn't counter on that? The financial institutions where culprits in the crime, but they had an accomplice in the American, keep up with the Jones', mentality.
As much as I detest and distrust Moore, the central premise of his latest documentary (as he has described it) seems largely correct. Democracy is more important than captialism to the long term survival of America. Wall Street ran amuck for decades, earning billions upon billions of dollars for a select few who were engaged in all kinds of irresponsible and reckless behavior that nearly melted down the entie world economy. Then, when it all crumbled, the Americna taxpayer was put on the hook to prop up these avaricious institutions and people, who, instead of being disgraced, shamed and humbled, are still up to their same old tricks. Obama's first order of business should have been new and sweeping market controls and regulations, not healthcare.
Moore may be a class A jackass, but this time, he appears to be on to something. Unchecked capitalism is not only sinful, but will always tend, because of the seemingly inate human urge to feel superior to one's fellows, toward abuse and corruption. While socialism is not a viable option, a more restrained form of capitalism would be better for the nation as a whole.
Moore played Hannity and Hannity fell for it. Instead of countering with real facts or not falling for Moore's traps, Hannity, an intellectual lightweight, could only rely on his 'it's all about me' response. "I wrote a book, maybe you read it? on this….." "I went to mass this weekend and no I don't remember what the mass was 2 days ago, I got there late or something". I'm surprised he didn't give the "Rev. Wright G D America, Bill Ayers…. blah, blah, blah" spiel. Unless he did but I turned the channel by then, It was too painful. Moore choose Hannity over Beck or even, gasp, O'Reilly, because he knew he could play Hannity.
Imagine that … Moore taking a bible verse out of context. It is difficult (read impossible) for a rich man (or any man) to get into heaven on their own accord, but fortunately with God anything is possible.
What is lost on Moore is that the Jesus of the Bible has many characteristics, including the fact that He is a warrior. A warrior that is jealous for our worship and praise. Yet as much as He desires the heart and soul of all people, He also is indignant of those who do wrong. Contrary to what Moore would have you believe, Jesus is NOT a pacifist. I can't speak to what Jesus would have done with the terrorists, but I do know when He comes back He will have blood on His robe to fight against those who stood against Him.
Michael Moore might be a Fat Pig Commie, but at least he has the stones to go on Fox and take some real questioions. Thiskeeps makes him one notch better then Obamo.
Many conservatives are going "soft", O'reilly went soft a long time ago. Take the Obama eligibility issue. We have a federal judge in California that has ordered a trial and nobody is reporting it.
Hannity sold himself out by going soft on Michael Moore. Just call Moore what he is: a self-aggrandizing, egotistical, manipulative capitalist pig, and then shut up and let him dig himself in a hole. After that piece of crap, "Roger and Me", which I thought was pretty clever at the time, I've never spent a dime on any of his propaganda.
Micheal Moore dancing….I bet that set off seismographs up and down the eastern seaboard.
MavRick, You might be the most unapologetic materialist I've ever seen. Kudos. Good luck with all that crap you accumulate. Whatever makes you happy. But just don't get mad at me if I rather be a bit more conservative and not spend everything I have on toys and a big house.
P.S. you had to say "rag heads" didn't you? You have a great post that spells out your point very clearly and you go and ruin it with "rag heads" I didn't even agree with most of what you said, but I had respect for your well though out opinion. I could even concede a few points, but all is lost because you said a stupid thing like "rag heads" that many people will think is funny, but lost you the chance to have a respectable debate with the opposition. But hey, there's always next time MavRick.
I don't believe Moore was heralding the benefits of religion, rather the way it is used by the unscrupulous; ie Hannity. How so many conservatives can tout religious beliefs as a reason for anti-liberal policies and yet many don't practice what they preach. That is what I gleaned from the debate. In my opinion, it looked as if Hannity not only wants to blame poor people for being poor, but that some wealthy financiers are not incredibly rich now because poor people are greedy.
Greta is just as ridiculous when it comes to credibility as all the other wrestling commentators on Faux News. How can a lawyer hold up a piece of legislation that is written in conceptual language and declare to her viewers that it is too long for her to explain to them? What a bunch of BS. The point being, she wanted everyone to think that it was too long for anyone to understand, thereby it must be full of liberal deception.
"Christians are in no position to judge the 9/11 terrorists."
He's got a point. Remember when those Jesuits flew planes into buildings in Mecca? Sad day for Christianity.
Seriously, though, this is pure sophistry. It's like saying Empricists or Stoics are equally damnable as Marxism because Marxism is a philosophical system, too.
That wasn't so much a debate as it was two people talking at each other for 20 minutes.
When the trickle down effect that was inspired by Ronald Reagan turned into loans instead of more pay, the only way to live the dream is to go into unsecured debt. This is the result of deregulation and greed from the money lenders, do not blame the poor for wanting more than just living paycheck to paycheck. I was enticed by the moneylenders to borrow more than I knew I could afford and resisted. There are many that would like to live in a nice home just once in their lives and waiting for the greedy bosses to improve our pay is not working out so well. The government is there to bail out the greedy lenders (who have money) and not to bail out the working poor (who now have even less).
I've been saying Hannity is a lightweight for years. I agree with him on most issues but I do not see that he is adept either of thinking on his feet or of spotting the basic flaws in the opposing argument. He is too easily swept along by the passions in the room. As Python (Monty) expresses it (paraphrased): Argument is not the automatic gainsaying of what the other person says." Hannity relies as much on feelings as the liberals do, it seems to me.
Of course, I'm not, either, but millions of people aren't relying on me to use such a one-shot opportunity to advance the convervative point of view.
You don't sound like a church goer. I've come home from church and been asked what the sermon was about and almost forgot. Most are rambling and platudinous dronings on that I can't wait to end. A truly memorable sermon is a rare thing. Sad but true. So Hannity not remembering on the spot from two days ago isn't something most church goers wouldn't identify with.
You don't sound like a church goer. I've come home from church and been asked what the sermon was about and almost forgot. Most sermons are rambling and platudinous dronings-on that I can't wait to end. A truly memorable sermon is a rare thing. Sad but true. So Hannity not remembering on the spot from two days ago isn't something most church goers wouldn't identify with.
I mean, I'm not good at thinking on my feet or spotting the basic flaw in the opposing argument (or at editing my posts before I submit them).
Hannity is the wrong guy for this. John Stossel or Michael Medved would have been far better at exposing Moore as the filthy liar that he is.
Hannity sticks too much with the queue cards and gets derailed too easily. Fox was dumb for giving to Hannity. Medved or Stossel would have been much more effective. IIMHO Fox blew it.
Moore's movie will tank anyway, but it would have been nice to see someone smarter than Hannity take apart that fat lying bastard.
"do not blame the poor for wanting more than just living paycheck to paycheck."
I don't blame anyone for wanting to better their lives at all. But when they want to do it a my expense without my consent, that's where I call BS.
Also, "nice home" is really vague. What do you consider to be a nice home? Yes, most of the poor in the country live in inner-city projects, but at least they have a roof over their head.
Finally, simple economics: If you improve pay, less people have work available. There's a reason why companies have to profit and why minimum wage increases very slowly.
Happens to the best of us. And although I've always liked Hannity, I think there are some logical inconsistencies in his thinking that he hasn't worked out, plus he occasionally tends towards demagoguery, which is something I dislike in any pundit. I watch Beck a lot more nowadays (partly because he just fits into my schedule better).
I stopped watching when Moore dismissed an example Hannity brought up of a family murdered by Castro by saying: "Well, that was 50 years ago." Didn't the Nazi war criminals say the same thing?…
Gah, ditch the talking points Sean!
Exactly. I can't listen to Hannity anymore; his simplicity is maddening. Half the time during his interviews I'm thinking up better questions and rebuttals than he is–he won't put down the talking points! It's irritating because when some lib is arguing with me about commentators, it's VERY hard to defend him. I usually just give them a point for that one…(yet they won't reciprocate when I bring up someone like Olbermann!).
"Christians are in no position to judge the 9/11 terrorists."
Yes, I am. One of the key tenets of my faith is "Thou Shalt Not Kill", 9/11 terrorists killed 3,000 people. I'll be nice and call them scum of the Earth.
Christopher – Your remarks are interesting to me because I have surveyed a lot of people with the question "What would Jesus be – a liberal or a conservative?" I suggest you try this. I found people who say they follow Jesus say that he would be whatever political belief they are -however, a few say that he would not be either.
Agree.
The key problem with Moore is that he cannot be trusted to present "event timelines" honestly. His movies are fiction.
Billions in profit loaned to the working class, not dealt out in increased pay, I guess you don't get it at all do you. The wealthy get to keep their money and make interest by lending it to their employees instead of giving raises. Billions wasted in market schemes instead of creating new jobs and improved standards of living for the American people. The wealthy have been practicing greed and indifference to the working class for decades, it just took a while for them to figure out how to get every last dime from the working poor before the pyramid collapsed.
I am saddened when the defense of important ideas and ideals on a national stage is left to dull and meager intellects like Sean Hannity.
There isn't enough food in Cuba to feed this pig. But I agree with you. If America doesn't suit him, then he should take his cloven hoofed ass to his buddy Castro and live the lifestyle he desires.
Sean Hannity lost the debate, not just the argument mind you, when he allowed Michael Moore to use the moral high ground of religion to justify his points. Neither are very bright but Moore is a bit more clever. Alinsky, anyone?
Hannity doesn't have the requisite intellectual bandwidth to go toe to toe with Moore. I would have preferred to see someone like Limbaugh, Hewitt or even Palin take Moore on (or, even better, Dennis Miller!), someone who knows how to argue without resorting to ridiculous personal attacks and strawman arguments, which is unfortunately what Hannity does all the time.
Wouldn't "meager intellectual" be an oxymoron. But I think it would be true that there was an "ox" and a "moron" trying to debate.
What I consider a nice home is a 3 bedroom brick home on a corner lot, with a nice concrete drive and just maybe a swimming pool. This is what I was lured with, but settled for a 3 bedroom mobile home on 2 acres of land for 1/3 the price of the brick home (which is what I could really afford, not what the realtors and bankers tried to get me to commit to).
Do you realize that you just called someone an "unapologetic materialist" through the medium of an expensive, non-vital piece of machinery called a "computer?" I sincerely hope that you're using a computer at a library or campus, and that you arrived there on a bus, or else you're a hypocrite.
I can't believe people are still using the "Faux news" thing. Seriously, do you think it makes you sound cutting edge? It was passe 2 years ago. Why not just punctuate your sentences with, "Party on, dude"?
Moore pretending to be a Christian is like Rev Wright pretending to be a Christian. Neither one has a clue why Jesus died on that cross. It was not to help the poor. The poor we will always have with us, Jesus said. And of course we help them, even atheists give to the poor. But to think that Democrats or the far left have a clue what it means to be a Christian is just ludacris. Nearly everything they stand for is Anti Christian, and they don't even know it. They don't read the bible. Even Nancy thought she was a Christian until the Pope set her straight on abortion. Does she know God called homosexual acts an abomination? As for the Hollwood types talking about what Jesus would do! How would they know? .
Chris, your comment was sort of wall bangerish yourself.
'H makes' and Moore are so right. Poor people are just too stupid to be trusted with understanding a contract. Perhaps ACORN needs to not only show them how to vote but show where they should put their little x's one the contract.
Laura Ingalls should be given a chance at him. Or Michelle Malkin. Now that would be interesting. He needs someone who can scream him down because that is the only way you can interview a liberal. They do not reason or know how to have a conversation. Their tactics are to scream and go in for the kill like a wild animal. They have no grace or dignity. The sad thing is, most conservatives are polite and get ran over by these screaming liberals. And have you noticed they never answer the question you ask. They start talking about something completely off topic? It is like they are to stupid to hear what you actually ask and just go off on a tangent..
Even an animal knows how to reason something out. They don't seem to have that skill.
Jim Jones and Michael Moore both believe that Jesus was a socialist. Jim Jones, a lifetime democrat managed to talk 900 mostly democrat (definitely leftist) leaning individuals into drinking poison KoolAid. Jim Jones, much like Michael Moore, obviously abused what little knowledge he had of the true Jesus and the true gospel. Obama is pretty much in the same boat of scriptural and conceptual abuse. But for drooling idiot KoolAid drinkers like "GoMichael" these fellows all made sense. Up to and even beyond them being instructed to drink the poison KoolAid.
I guess you don't comprehend simple economics.
Also, on what planet do you live where standards of living are completely out of the hands of the people themselves? Jobs don't just come out of thin air by pumping money into the public and/or private sectors.
For the love of God, here's some Thomas Sowell for you. You're very welcome.
http://www.creators.com/opinion/thomas-sowell/inc...
Sean is not a heavyweight. This is not to say Moore is any smarter, but Moore certainly left himself open to being made a fool of in some of the rediculous 'points' he was attempting to make. Among the many stupid arguments, a more experienced person could have taken Moore's Taliban 'a couple of thousand guys on monkey bars' argument and wiped his butt with it.
Hannity knew he had to be nice with the communist . Probably had to feed "it" in the green room, with a large list of food demands – before "it" came on to be interviewed. I would have paid to see "the great one" Levin do this interview.
Hannity was "soft" on Moore because Moore blasted him away with FACTS. Hannity can't continue on with his biased fear mongoring when he has someone who knows the facts on his show. Better (for Hannity) to get Moore off the stage and bring in the blonde bimbos to agree with him……
You're just too stupid to understand and it's not worth the time to explain it to you…..
Real intelligent. Did you even bother to listen to Moore or were you just too turned off by his appearance? Maybe if you could see past his looks, and listen to the facts that he passes along to your ears, you would begin to learn somethings.
Hannity is a frothy lightweight who has increasingly become more and more egocentric. I'm the big talk show host. Yet if you analyse any of his typical segments on FNC all he does is ENDLESSLY puke up the same old bumper sticker slogans and talking points on the requisite topics of the day, like an energiser parrot. There is very little evidence of any depth of thinking with Hannity, its all essentially sloganised confrontation or blatant pandering to the GOP base. Obviously 6-7 mins on TV isn't sufficient to develop a serious argument.
But Hannity's pathetic attempt to explicitly "nail" down the liberal root causes of the financial meltdown last night were quite pathetic. It was the pardon selling perjurer from AR – funny how the investigation into all of that just silently fizzled out – who instigated race spoils pandering, primarily to poor blacks, at the point of federal threats to the banks, if they didn't seriously relax the standards for lending. Hannity completely glossed over this fact. And then once this new environment for lending became entrenched the greedy banks etc all piled on – until it steadily and inevitably spiralled out of control. BUT WHO STARTED IT … and who steadfastly refused to curtail Fannie and Freddie et al is beyond dispute – pandering lefties like Bwarney Fwank who screeched racism. And Hannity yet again missed the details.
Hannity had NO specific, awkward, hard left quotes of Moore's to throw in his fat face. NO awkward reminders of past outrages.
Beck has spent months digging extensively into the Hussein Obama crime family, with factual, reasoned, irrefutable research into how/why etc what the lefties are doing. Hannity is merely a vacuous mouthpiece, more concerned with his ratings and his image than any serious attempt to commit intellectual and ideological GBH on liberals.
O'Reilly is not a conservative.
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