Open Thread Monday

After watching Fox last last night, I must say the sunday evening cartoon lineup is not looking well.
some of you will say ho you thought it was garbage all along, but some of us enjoyed it.
Simpsons have lost whatever spark they once had (since the movie, the image quality is up the content is down)
Don't waste your time with the Cleveland show
Family guy is hit or miss with me, and last night was ok (and the gratuitious antichristian stuff lead up to a very weak punchline) , but generally I have to search for the good episodes and am more often than not very disappointed
I turned off American dad halfway through.

feel free to discuss, but Sunday nights may become a reading night for me.

As a loyal Redskins fan since the day the Giants sent Sam Huff to D.C., it pains me to write this, but I gotta give credit where credit is due.

Best Line of the Day:

"Washington bails out Detriot again" (from a Washington Examiner reporter).

Chicago's been trying to get the Olympics since long before Obama was an elected official.

Way to say it Hermie

Burt Lancaster was in one of my all-time favorite westerns. The Professionals.

"That, gentlemen is the whirlingest dervish of them all….."

I liked "The Rainmaker" myself.

Chicago is not the most violent or corrupt (scary as that may be). It is one of the most racially segregated cities though.

Open thread is the perfect place for this. It's an open forum, as long as your polite, have at it!

"Also, if a person sends in an amount over the limit what happens then? TIA. "

Depends if the politician who's getting the money wins or not. If they win, there could be an ambassadorship to the Caribbean in it.

Being an Eagles fan even I felt bad for the Skins…..ok, I'm over it now….

Awww come on Ed, I need a REAL answer.

….."Does anyone know the amount that each individual person and corporation can donate to presidential candidates? I've found a couple of sites that give "some" information on it but they're kind of confusing.

Also, if a person sends in an amount over the limit what happens then? TIA. "
I am no expert
But if you send too much money to a Dem no laws are broken
If youd send 50 dollars to a Republican you are a racist and the IRS will audit you while you are in jail

I'm with ya Ed, but Olbermann in high def, makes me long for static AM radio. I won't watch the pregame or half-tome, as I prefer to wash the septic tank!

You might be right. Everybody's been more than patient with Campbell. It could well be time to move on.

Depends on the politician really
Not kidding

I tend to believe what ThinkRight said.

Thanks Ed..I actually THINK it's 2300.00 but I'm not positive, still checking. If that's the case then obama needs to send a LOT of people a refund.

I was gonna mention that, although I'm not sure if he'd be comfortable with some of the radicalism of todays
Hollywood.
Lancaster was also on Nixon's infamous enemies list.
Of course people who weren't on it was probably a shorter list.

but I'd rather see some of the dead ones in their current condition than some of the living ones we have now.
and in their hayday? no comparison.

Loved the Family Guy riff on Japanification of America, The atomic bomb wasn't dropped "so the Japanese just never quit." MacFarlane must've been too busy squeezing the yuks out of The Cleveland Show to cut the most pro-American bit ever seen on prime time television.

it was the best episode in a long time from them. But it still bet you over the head.
It is possible to jab without being overt. But he seemingly doesn't think we would get it that he doesn't like conservatives unless he was overt. I think he is past his peak.

McCain and Feingold take you into a deep, dark hole and you are never heard from again–unless you're from Chicago, then it's just a matter of knowing the right people. Mr. President, am I right?

why do i not see any mentions of the military being used for 'crowd control' in pittsburgh? i saw only a couple of clips, and they did not mention the significance of the military on home ground? if they were police in military-like combat uniforms – are they slowly trying to get us accustomed to seeing them used locally?

As much as I absolutely love Bogart, I honestly don't think he would be disturbed at all. Look at his wifel, she's nearly as rabid a liberal as Barbra Streisand.

Vote with your feet, when he shows up on the screen, go to the can, then grab a beer, if he's still on, raid the fridge.

I refuse to let people like them ruin my day. I simply completely ignore them. Also on the list Michael Moore, Madonna, Rosie O'Donnell, the View, all of them. They are not allowed in my house via magazine or movies or football.

'The Train' rocks…

And if you get MGMHD channel you can see it in amazing High Def. Saw it at the show when a mere whelp and ate it up. Even Burt as a frenchman which is a stretch…

Great stuff!

I'll take James Cagney, a true American Patriot.

ah, the Iranian nuke question.
its a tricky questions because it is in multiple parts;

the people of Iran love us for not dealing with their government.
Russia is actively helping out Iran -because its a way of screwing with us-
and China is also because they are getting access to oil -much needed for their growing.

You can't tell me sitting on the world's 2nd largest oil/natural gas reserves that the need energy independence of nuclear.
Last I checked, no I'm not a nuclear engineer, you didn't need centrifuges for the reactor fuel, but you do for building the bomb.

There's also the part of the Iranian government, nutjobs, i.e. 12ers [Ajad] who believe that only through the war that ends everything that the return of the promised one, madi, will happen. This is the reverse of Christianity; Jesus returns, rapture, then Armageddon for everyone else here.

Glenn Beck would remind you that these are the people who invented chess. See the moves ahead.

How about I remind you of 1979, when they committed an act of war by invading the US embassy, taking hostages. Yes, I know, Pres. Carter wasn't helping the Shah that much and that led to the overthrow of the government.

Then there's Israel.
They hate Israel existing. They see it as a stain that needs to be erased.
Never mind that Iran use to be the home of the first monotheistic religion in the world; Zoroastrianism.
Remember, Muslim lands that have been conquered, i.e. Israel, need to be liberated. That's somewhere in their book.

And lets not forget that Iran active supports Hamas and Hezbollah.

While the UN fiddles with booking a conference room, the world moves dangerously closer to a savage war. That war alone will change the world. 40% of the world's oil travels through that region. What happens when it stops?

Robert E. Lee said war should be brutal so it ends quickly.
He never could imagine a war with atomic weapons.

Just my own humble opinion, I don't think it really matters what an actor's politics are, as long as they keep their opinions to themselves, and don't discriminate based on politics.

The part that irks me is "Hi, I'm famous, beautiful, fabulously wealthy, so that makes me an expert on foreign affairs, and since you idolize me, here's what you should think…."

Of course there is the rabid strain, where they add "If you don't agree with me, its proof you're an idiot."

Best Burt:

"Elmer Gantry"
"Sweet Smell of Success"
"The Swimmer"
"Atlantic City"
"Local Hero"

If the Olympic committee doesn't award the games to Chicago does that make them racists too?

Why do I see a special version of the Olympic logo for Chicago. Instead of five interconnected rigs, 5 interconnected bullet holes.

Why do I see a special version of the Olympic logo for Chicago. Instead of five interconnected rings, 5 interconnected bullet holes.

Luchino Visconti called him "The most mysterious man I've ever met." And considering all the people Visconti met in his life that's REALLY saying something. I met him once at a press junket for "Tough Guys" — a little Disney comedy he did with Kirk Douglas. Incredibly imposing man. Couldn't possibly be mistaken for anything other than a movie star of enormous power.

Love him in "The Leopard," "Sweet Smell of Success" "Conversation Piece," "Atlantic City" and "Desert Fury."

Having minor influence thru a commercial vehicle Ober.. whats his name…gets turned
of…as I said minor but it makes me happy.

This person is nothing but a troll, trying to bait someone here into some sort of stereotype. I imagine he has a handbook given to him by left-wing nutbags and it's full of talking points that shape his belief system. Not a very bright individual on any level…..

My theory is over the years, as the political center of the population has moved from center left to center right, the MSM doesn't understand what to do with it or how to cover it. So what they are doing, whether they realize it or not, is to continually narrow the audience they target.

And it seems to me, as they narrow that audience down, they're going directly for the most rabid on the left. I dropped my Time magazine subscription last year, and I sent them an email telling exactly why, I was looking for news and analysis, not a partisan rag that cheer leads for one side. That got their attention, I received 2 or 3 response. Now I get snail mails at least 2 or 3 a month pleading for me to come back. The last one offered 85% discount over the news stand price.

But there's only one place this can end up, more and more outlets chasing a shrinking customer base.

And its damn fun to watch!

Before I started kindergarten, when I was the only kid in the house during the school day, my mom – who worked third shift – would park me in front of the TV while she napped. And it was either Monster Movie Matinee, or Jack LaLanne.

The last issue of Smithsonian magazine had an article on Charles Atlas. Sounds like he was quite the conservative (as in decent, not political) family man. The only real treat he allowed himself was a cottage on the Ocean out on Long Island with his family. And when he was out there, he was working on exercise programs for the local youths.

The one line I remember most, he almost never went out to bars, and when he did, he'd usually spend the time trying to convince his friends to stop drinking alcohol, and drink orange juice instead.

HAH,I love ya EdSki. in a fatherly sort of way, oops, sorry thats not a good example these days.

who's the "father," you or me? I ain't no spring chicken these days.

Thank you, I certainly will take a look at it.

Well, I'm looking backward on 3 score I won't say any more about it because there may be a
an age clause on this site. You know kinda of like Obamas Health plan, clear out the dead wood,
they cause too much hassle by their shoving their experienced thoughts in our mugs.
At least you do, if I had a orginal thought it would be terribly lonely.

That's the perfect type of person for the left to prey on. They don't think now, and the left will do their best to see to it they never start.

Have you ever noticed a debate with a modern liberal goes something like this:

C: I have issues with the methods of funding various portions of HR 3200.
L: You racist pig!

There are two reasons for this. First off, it's to end the debate right there, how could any sane person want to waste time debating a racist?

Secondly, it prevents the modern liberal from actually listening to a different point of view. That's strictly forbidden. We were coached from a young age, never listen to a different point of view. Just keep repeating the left's talking points, we were right, and that's all there was to it.

Okay, you win! After searching on google, I find I'm staring down 2 & 1/2 scores.

Wow, thanks mom, maybe i should go get a paper route, or something.

You may not like it but the Simpsons are one of the longest running shows for a reason. It is funny. ok scratch that, was funny. The other stuff I have watched because the simpsons was on the same channel and had just ended.
I'm sure others will defend cartoons (South Park is one of the smartest things out there) , and several articles here have, But King of the Hill is gone and I don't think it is too long for the Simpsons. The Seth Mcfarlane stuff at this point isn't really funny and most of it is trash.
So am I growing up, or is the medium dying? neither. I like grown up stuff as well and have for many decades, and the current writing of these shows is weak. ans yo have apoint calling it adolescent, since that is what they seem to cater to. I suppose clever is harder than predictable.
Just my opinion of course but adults can find entertainment in cartoons and you may not want to be dismissive of the entire medium.

Somebody please tell George Clooney what Obama's man in Sudan is doing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti...

Obama Administration Engages Sudanese Regime It Blasted

EL FASHER, Sudan — The volatility of this East African nation — from the Darfur conflict to the threat of renewed civil war in the south — is becoming a test of how President Obama will reconcile a policy of engagement with earlier statements blasting a government he said had "offended the standards of our common humanity."

Top administration officials are scheduled to meet Tuesday to discuss a major review of the United States' Sudan policy. But even as that document is being finalized, U.S. diplomacy has remained mostly in the hands of one man, Obama's special envoy to Sudan, retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, who is pushing for normalizing relations with the only country in the world led by a president indicted for war crimes.

Although Gration describes the approach as pragmatic and driven by a sense of urgency, his critics here and in the United States say it is dangerously, perhaps willfully, naive. Obama himself last year criticized a similar Bush administration proposal as a "reckless and cynical initiative" that would reward a regime with a history of broken promises.

During a recent five-day trip to Sudan, Gration heard from southern officials, displaced Darfuris, rebels and others who complained uniformly that he is being manipulated by government officials who talk peace even as they undermine it.

Still, at the end of the visit, Gration maintained a strikingly different perspective. He had seen signs of goodwill from the government of President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, he said, and viewed many of the complaints as understandable yet unfair, knee-jerk reactions to a government he trusts is ready to change.

"We've got to think about giving out cookies," said Gration, who was appointed in March. "Kids, countries, they react to gold stars, smiley faces, handshakes, agreements, talk, engagement." Gration's detractors say that his approach is based on a misunderstanding of how Bashir's ruling party works. John Prendergast, co-chairman of the Enough Project, a human rights group advocating tougher, multi-lateral sanctions against Sudan, said that Bashir's crowd responds only to pressure. "They do not respond to nice guys coming over and saying we have to be a good guest," he said. "They eat these people for dinner."

Adam Mudawi, a Sudanese human rights activist who has seen envoys come and go, put it more bluntly: "In six months, he'll find out," he said. "They are liars."

But in several interviews during the trip, Gration said that Sudanese government officials have not lied to him yet. He spoke of new realities in Darfur, where a brutal government counterinsurgency has given way to banditry and fighting among rebel factions and tribes. Although many say the government has orchestrated the chaos, Gration spreads the blame. Rebels have turned into criminal gangs and failed to unify for peace talks, he said. And many displaced Darfuris are dealing with "psychological stuff" that is leading to unhelpful mistrust of the government and preventing their return home, he said.

Why is that places that are governed by liberals have such high crime rates? i.e. Chicago, Detroit, D.C., New Orleans?

Burt Lancaster Impression by Frank Gorshin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtDidm0pRE

Promoted? Unless its adultery or abusing children, I can't recall the last time I saw a heterosexual couple portrayed in a positive way.

Which I'm guessing you agree with, which is why you consider that 'promoting.'

I can smell modern liberal condescension a mile a way. Pompous, elitist, and extremely unfunny. If you're going to try to be pithy, can you at least, well, be pithy?

Bi.

And yes I'm serious.