Trailer: Clooney Mocks American Military **UPDATED**
by Big Hollywood
With so many tales of military heroism left to tell, Clooney and Company choose this…
“But “The Men Who Stare at Goats” is inspired by a “true” story,” they’ll say…
But why is it always these kinds of “true” stories that get picked?
UPDATE: A message to you “C’mon lighten uppers”:
Want to know when I’ll stop being a wet blanket about these “‘c’mon, lighten up, it’s just a” comedies? When for every 5 of these where I’m told “Relax it’s just a movie,” there’s ONE that treats these incredible men and women with the respect and reverence they deserve.
One of five, 20 measly percent, that’s all I’m asking for.
Then I’ll lighten up.
In the meantime, Hollywood can go to hell.





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So, wait… is your intention in putting up a trailer telling me that someone has made an (at least in-part) fact-inspired movie about the U.S. Army attempting to form a unit that "weaponizes" new-age witchcrafty psychic-power stuff to make me NOT want to see it?
Cuz I gotta tell ya, it didn't work. That looks nutty
Listen to the sarcastic tone in which Clooney & Co. deliver the line "It's okay. We're Americans. We're here to help."
My father spent over two decades overseeing American Aid to Africa and Central America. He put himself and his family at great risk so an orphan in Africa might not go to bed hungry that night.
Radical, lunatic-fringe, left-wing, ultra-liberal, unpatriotic Hollywood bastards.
Nobody's going to see your shitty movie.
Typical.
Common that looks like they make more fun of the left than of the military. I think it might be funny even though I'm no Clooney fan.
Wow! Our military is a wacky, mixed-up group of keystone cops! Once one realizes a dummy like "W" can fly a fighter plane you understand it takes no intelligence at all to serve in our armed forces. I'm so glad Messrs. Clooney, Spacey, Bridges and MacGregor have the guts to show us how incompetent our armed forces are. The last movie I saw Mr. Spacey in I learned that all military men are queer. I learn so much from our nation's artists.
"</sarcasm off>" Why did it have to be Bridges?! I can easily go through the rest of my life not giving these other clowns a dime of my hard-earned money, but give up "The Big Lebowski?!" A man has limites.
And Clooney is relevant to anything, why? Just another overblown, overrated self-important Hollywood lib. yawn
There's a whole history of great, sarcastic military comedies, absolute film classics. Hope this turns out to be one of them.
I was looking for a true story … and I got a truckload of %$#@&^!!!!
Good call, George!
Looks like someone missed your sarcasm.
Someone dare to critique our men and women in uniform? How unholy! How in sanctified!
OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM ARE BEYOND REPROACH! ANYONE WHO CRITICISES OUR SOLDIERS IS UN-AMERICAN!
Who is Clooney?
Lets ask the military, who we're afraid this may offend, if they laughed at it… I mean I did.
When did we get to the point that movies can't be silly? Yes I know Hollywood can't be expected to do anything respectful of our military or honoring the sacrifices of all those who protect us. But…what's wrong with stupid? Have you all forgotten MASH? Stripes? Private Benjamin? Full Metal Jacket? (sorry. forget that one). It is a great leap of faith to think this will be a good movie, but it is a funny premise.
Dr. Strangelove.
Rufus (God, I love that name) –
I think there is a distinction between celebs who talk politics in public (like Clooney) and actors who simply appear in movies like this but who DON'T talk politics in public (like Bridges).
This could be a great deal of fun, and I'm not outraged by the assertion that the military indulges in some wingnut projects from time to time. It's more the overt political films that try to "educate" me on foreign policy and the inherent injustice of any U.S. military intervention, anywhere against anyone that gets up my nose.
There have been some great military comedies. Personally, I wouldn't put MASH in that category. It was Korea standing in for Vietnam and carried all the anachronistic 60's anti-war sentimentality, sexual liberation, consequence free drug-use, etc. into a setting where it didn't belong from an historical point of view. Humphrey Bogart's Battle Circus is far more accurate in capturing the sensibilities of Korea-era MASH units and that includes the doctor-nurse romances.
Lighten up Francis.
This looks pretty harmless to me. It kind of plays on years of rumors since the 70's of the Army doing "remote viewing" and "psych-ops" warfare experimentation.
I spent 10 years in the Marine Corps, live to the right of Attila the Hun, am not offended (primarily because it mocks Army types), and thinks it looks kinda fun.
So let's see on the verge of the Iraq war with the combined US British and allied forces poised to have to go in to Iraq and face Saddaems WMD's all the world belived were there. a mission signed on to by all 100 US Senators. Clooney makes Syriana a movie about the US CIA killing good Arabs to steal their oil.
He was no doubt looking to get American kids killed.
He wanted us to lose that war because he is a traitor to this country.
Nothing he does to harm this country surprises me, he should really though come out of the closet.
I found the clip funny and a bit off the wall. However, I see the point of the post. Of all the true stories of sacrifice and courage out there, we get a comedy. Where are the great war epics? Where are the movies that laud the American military of today and praise their sacrifice?
So true — and this does look fun in a silly way (my favorite kind of fun after Heathers dark) — but hard to reconcile paying money to projects starring C.Looney and Hug-a-Hugo Spacey.
Looks mildly amusing… I spend for a blank dvd and get if from a torrent after it takes a shit at the theaters.
http://politicsofdestruction.com
You were saying the exact opposite when St. Cindy was camping in Crawford so cork it, Sissy.
The book it's based on is great.
Agent Pierce looks highly disgusted with The Dude's anti-American harrangue….
I think he is a crappy actor, never liked him in ER, couldn't believe he made to the big screen.
I dunno, I got more than a good feeling about this one. Looks funny. Why not leave it at that? It's just a trailer folks!
Strikes and gutters, man!
Watching the trailer I was expecting to be insulted. I have to admit I was amused. It looks like a light hearted military comedy, maybe along the lines of Stripes, and not a military bashing film. I’m still not going to see it.
They should make a movie where George Clooney gets waterboarded for 120 minutes.
That would be funny.
Making such a movie today – when we have a real military doing incredibly hard and amazing things every day – is the equivalent of being obsessed with the stuff between your toes. That is nutty. And symptomatic of Hollywood.
Besides, we know how this "fact inspired" nonsense works, don´t we? The truth quotient is 0,5%. You may share the closed-off perspective of the filmmakers, or you may just enjoy a wacky story (so do I, usually) but you´re not going to learn anything significant here.
Who cares? Despite the left's best attempts to engineer the contrary, the military will always be a more trusted and respected institution than Hollywood.
I dunno, looks funny. I will see it.
I would buy that on BluRay and throw screening parties at my place.
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I like the subject, I'd rather see a serious movie on it though.
Looks kind of funny. Maybe I'll go see it.
There are sacred cows of the LEFT that no one seems interested in sending-up with a dark comedy: rabid eco-activists, foaming-at-the-mouth professors, unhinged animal-rights terrorists, and of course: Islamic fundamentalists who scream "God is great!" while sawing off someone's head.
Don't complain that leftist filmmakers produce comedies that promote their point of view – because you are free to do the same! Personally, I am in a UCLA writer's program developing a dark comedy spec script sending up radical Islam. This costs time, money, and energy. Are you willing to accept personal sacrifices in order to make movies that mock left-wing sacred cows? Or would you rather play golf, sit around at home watching basketball on cable, or complain on blog sites about the left?
Things will not change in Hollywood until more conservatives are willing to take action (and all that entails) rather than just gripe.
I guess that Bridges is like most other actors; he wants to work. He didn´t write or direct the movie. Clooney didn´t either, the difference is that we know Clooney is full of it because he went out of his way to let us know. But why blame Bridges?
I personally know a director/producer with a crew that can put together a feature-length version of the 100% true story of U.S. Army SSG David Bellavia's war memoir of Fallujah: "House to House" (http://www.amazon.com/House-David-Bellavia/dp/141...
The director/producer I know is a proven entity (his YouTube videos have millions of views), would shoot it on HD to cut costs, and use a non-union crew in Texas to qualify for a 21.25 % tax rebate if the budget was $1 million or more–bascially an investor would spend a million bucks and be guaranteed to get at a minimum $212,500 back.
But hey, if you'd all see Clooney's movie instead there's nothing I can do to stop you…
Hollywood has attributed their own psychotic psychedelic power trances onto the military.
Note to John Nolte:
I saw A Perfect Getaway last night. I do not find a review here at Big Hollywood.
(Spoiler Alert!!!)
The movie was good but not great. It kept me interested and moved right along, but the key thing, the thing that allowed me to leave the theater with a giant grin, (spoiler, spoiler, spoiler) was that hero was an Iraq War Vet. He called himself an American Jedi and he lived up to his own billing. I could not believe it!!!!
It is extremely disappointing that our movie industry cannot bring itself to make one decent, accurate movie about our military. If you follow these things at all, you know some of the jawdropping, deeply moving and completely true stories of heroism out there.
Having said that, I´m not sure that this flick will do any harm. It looks like another wannabe Brothers Coen, pseudo cool, pretend smart kind of movie. I wasn´t so much offended as bored. The trailer isn´t very funny.
They cannot praise the military because the military has provided a much more useful service than Hollywood ever had. The narcissism of the Hollywood elite protects them from the haunting truth that they are a useless class of uneducated idiots.
Yea Oh my god! this is terrible! movies making light of anything! lord no!
i dont see any of you crucifying Charlie Sheen? [wait for.. you will now...]
two words: Hot Shots – most accurate portrayal of US military prowess since Dirty Dozen.. hands down…should be taught in school..
Compared to modern movies, Stripes and Private Benjamin had actually a kind of fond view of the military. I liked Three Kings back in 1999, even though it has its anti-American moments.
The bigger worry is that I didn´t find this trailer funny. The filmmakers are trying too hard to be sophisticated and the strain is showing.
El Gordo: What's stopping YOU from making those movies?
I drove to LA from Virginia in December 2006, age 46, with no contacts or experience whatsoever in the film industry. This last Monday my first movie (as writer/director) went into post-production editing. I also have two spec scripts under development, both of them politically charged (and I mean that in a good way!).
So, why can't you do the same? is it that you have "other priorities" or "obligations?" If so, you have answered your own question: Hollywood is dominated by the left because conservatives have other priorities.
Ah…my favorite toilet bug….Cgn-blah-blah.
A post without a snarky, dim-witted comment from you is like a nice summer walk in the park without a pile of dog poop sticking to my shoes. Good times.
Oh, and our fighting men and women deserve a lot better than the likes of George "I've-Never-Met-A-Brainless-Liberal-Cause-I-Don't-Like" Clooney.
I laughed.
True, it's been a long time and those are *Army* uniforms… so…
I love, admire and respect our soldiers. Doesn't mean I have a shred of love, admiration or respect for the nutjobs they answer to. I think it looks like a funny film. You know, we did just have The Hurt Locker, which is about as reverential about US soldiers without crossing over into John Wayne Green Berets territory.
The British satirist Chris Morris is making a film called Four Lions about a family of suicide bombers. It's due out next year and I can't wait to see it.
I completely agree with you. Clearly there are several writers and directors on the right who could make a great film that is better than An American Carol. Why don't they have the guts to go out there and find the money to make them? Personally I lean more to the left than to the right on many issues but I relish in opposing points-of-view (which is why I'm here) and as long as a film is entertaining and thought-provoking, I will enjoy it regardless of the politics unless we're talking about Triumph of the Will.
I'll agree with you on Stripes and Private Benjamin, Gordo.. those were actually supportive of the military, even thought they had their "make fun of the superiors" moments.
I'll disagree with you on Three Kings… that movie I could not stand.. I tried watchign it a few times on demand…and I just could not get through it.
I thought it looked interesting, funny and entertaining.
You know… I'm just not that insecure that I'm going to worry about it. There's room for funny in the world. If it's a funny that is insulting or not to those in uniform is not apparent from that trailer. I mean, really… we were researching a weapon that gave people bad breath and body odor. *Really*. We *were*. And I'm not even saying that we *shouldn't*… but you've got to have a notion of the absurd about life without getting your panties in a twist.
What will make the movie insulting or not insulting to the military and to those who serve is not how those in the psychic warfare program are portrayed but how the regular troops and officers are portrayed.
Clooney acting: Scene one: Tilts his head to the side and repeats a line that someone with a brain wrote. Scene two; Tilts his head to the side and repeats another line that someone with a brain wrote. Repeat for ninety minutes. What an artist.
"The Hurt Locker?" the movie with the whacked-out American Colonel who orders an Iraqi prisoner be left to bleed to death and a protagonist so warped and PTSD'd by war he can't love his own son and gets his own man shot and nearly killed because he's going further and further out of his mind?
That's reverential?
I think funny are people who spend all their spare time watching made-up movies of other people's lives believe their own lives are somehow being fulfilled.
Real Life-try it sometime.
"Where are the great war epics? Where are the movies that laud the American military of today and praise their sacrifice?"
Don't worry, Donny Deutche is going to email a list of those movies to you.
There are sacred cows of the LEFT that no one seems interested in sending-up with a dark comedy: rabid eco-activists, foaming-at-the-mouth professors, unhinged animal-rights terrorists, and of course: Islamic fundamentalists who scream "God is great!" while sawing off someone's head.
Yesterday I caught a portion of a promotion for a play here in the Los Angeles area that skewers liberal sacred cows. Unfortunately I didn’t get the name but it opens soon. This I will go see. Maybe Stage Right, who reviews plays here, will have a post about it. I hope he does; Conservatives need to support such performances.
Catch "We Were Soldiers".
Yeah but he has a mustache in this one. That changes the whole dynamic. His role is "George Clooney with mustache."
Daniel Day Lewis he is not.
I´m impressed. For reasons I will not go into, it is too late for me to start a new career. And I didn´t become officially conservative until a couple of years ago. But you are right in principle. When it comes to sending up the left´s holy cows mercilessly, it would be a lot of fun. And a noble thing, too.
I´m impressed. For reasons I will not go into, it is too late for me to start a new career. And I didn´t become officially conservative until a couple of years ago. But you are right in principle. When it comes to sending up the left´s holy cows mercilessly, it should be a lot of fun. And a noble thing, too.
I have no money to invest, but I´ll watch that movie, buy the DVD, whatever. Bellavia´s book kept me reading all through the night and I had to go to work the next day! That doesn´t happen a lot.
Now this does look amusing, and it's not your traditional military that you're dealing with here… it's the loony leftist that infiltrated the military with their loony ideas…. and what's wrong with making fun of them? It doesn't appear they're the guys in the trenches, just a bunch of supposed psychics who go around violatiing everything the military stands for… kind of like MASH.
Indeed! They can easily use those very expensive puppets in the sequel. They might have to since the marionettes they used in the first one are most likely long gone and sold on ebay.
Thanks. Everyone should know, it is possible. And I'm finding there's a surprising number of industry people here who are open-minded about politically incorrect movies.
The bottom line is that more conservatives need to be willing to make personal sacrifices in order to begin to slowly take back the culture. Otherwise, the left will continue to dominate.
I'm immune. I made a tinfoil hat.
I gained immunity by canceling my cable subscription months ago. I still don't miss it.
good call. I only got rid of HBO (Maher gives me gas) and went back to the basic package. Their signal's still comming in, but it's weak enough to be repelled by my tinfoil hat.
Well, we all know that you're un-american. Love that name, though. It fits you to a "t".
It's got The Dude… I may have to go see it.
some of these left wing clowns couldnt do what our military WOMEN endure. Let alone keep up with the men.
I've read the book: it's a great read. Seriously, this looks like a lot of fun. Sticks are in dire need of being removed from butts around these parts.
doesnt even look funny. most comedies these days SUCK.
You want to know when I'll stop being a wet blanket about these "'c'mon, lighten up, it's just a" comedies? When for every 5 of these where I'm told "Relax it's just a movie," there's ONE that treats these incredible men and women with the respect and reverence they deserve.
One of five, 20 measly percent, that's all I'm asking for.
Then I'll lighten up.
In the meantime, Hollywood can go to hell.
I love the attitude of some (not all, but a few folks) on this site: If it features someone who's politics I don't agree with it must then be either terrible or a mockery of my values. Yeesh. I like how the thought of YOU (again, not everybody) being the one with narrow point-of-view never figures into the equation.
Have not watched it, though I own it; Loved "Heart of a Soldier" the book about vet Rick Rescorla who saved all the Morgan Stanley people, except himself and the idiot VP he tried to rescue, on 9/11. Rescorla was an actual character in the book that "We Were Soldiers' was based, but he was either deleted or blended with someone else….so, don't know yet if I want to see a movie that did edited out a real-life hero, whose had made heroic efforts prior to 9/11.
I WOULD SO LOVE TO SEE THESE HELLYWOOD LIBERALIA INTRODUCED, IN A BOOT-CAMP SORT OF WAY, TO PARRIS ISLAND.
another flop from hollywood… what a shock
I'll bet you ten dollars they show all the funny parts in the trailer…
If you're truly surprised, it's only because you listen to the know-nothings who post here. There is no great liberal conspiracy in Hollywood, even if Jeneane Garafalo says some things Big Hollywood doesn't like.
And someone who fills her life complaining about people who watch movies? How funny is that!
But you'll keep on cashing the paycheck for spending your ife whining about it. If it bugs you that much, get a real job.
What's the big deal people??? God we need to lighten up if we are ever going to take back the white-house
Oh yeah? So where is the conservative equivalent to all those outspoken liberal movie stars and directors? Where are their movies and tv shows? I can´t find them. What are the conservative moments that spoil every other movie for you? Can you give me 10 examples from, say, the second Bush term? I bet you can´t.
No conspiracy. They just ARE reflexive liberals producing movies dripping with liberal values. And they say liberal things whenever they find an opportunity, and especially abroad when they try to suck up to the Euro-press. And the opposite NEVER happens.
Lighten up, Francis.
jeesh, it's just a freakin' movie. There are plenty of war movies that honor our military, and most of them are propaganda.
some of the stuff might not be so far out there .hey we have or had people doing remote veiwing at some point .
I guess something a little lighter at heart is ok as long as it does not disrespect soliders.
Well played, wr1. Hypocrisy knows no party lines apparently.
Looks like a fun movie to me. I know it's an unpopular opinion around these parts but I like Clooney in weirdo comedies like O Brother Where Art Thou and Burn After Reading.
Now, on the other hand, if this movie starred Sean Penn…
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Personally, I think the hollyweirds make way to much money and should be taxed at 80 percent or paid minimum wage. When that happens, I might pay to see a movie again. Unless of course it is Clint Eastwood or some other conservative star. The nice thing is, they are coming out of the closet after all these years.
The left glorifies the most perverted things and wants to destroy the free market. Something is not right with this picture. I'm beginning to believe that it is a mental condition. I thought the book was funny, even though it was a serious book, but I'm beginning to get it now.
Hate to break it to you, but Clint Eastwood is far from conservative.
Ah, I see from the update that Big Hollywood is employing the popular "because I said so" schoolyard technique.
Yeah, go to hell, Hollywood — whose very existence makes this site possible… wait, what?
and if it had a bunch of Marines acting like idiots you'd have the same opinion?
No I wasn't.
I liked him in ER (both of them. Yes, I'm one of the five people who saw him in the short-lived sitcom of the same name), and he is capable of very likable performances. But he became unbelievably self-important in an unbelievably short period of time, and he makes it clear at every opportunity that he doesn't give a crap about his audience. Because of that, I find it very hard to give a crap about him anymore.
"A post without a snarky, dim-witted comment from you is like a nice summer walk in the park without a pile of dog poop sticking to my shoes. Good times"
Mission accomplished! Good times indeed.
Isn't Clooney tired of being one of the lowest-grossing "stars" in Hollywood history? I mean, the critics love him, and nobody else. Bleh.
Oh, wait….
You're trying to be ironic.
Your meteoric wit is just soooooooo cutting edge.
Let's pay these A** holes back in 2010 and 2012. I love movies but if it is just going to be a constant stream of this crap, I'll find another way to spend my time and money. Where for art thout Team America World Police sequal
The Russians had massive research into this type of phenomenon. They will never be mocked like this.
"Relax, it's just a book."
Said about Twilight too and you know how despicable that franchise is.
Rufus (I love Duck Soup!) –
I think there is a difference between celebs who talk politics in public (like Clooney, whose politics no doubt inspired him to make this film) and actors who simply appear in movies like this but who DON'T talk politics in public (like Bridges).
Name five made within the last ten years. If there's "plenty", it should be easy…
Name five made within the last ten years. If there's "plenty", it should be easy…
You consider it your "patriotic duty" to talk down America at every opportunity?
Whatever.
Double troll hit John, …cool!
Damn Lebowski, not Spacey and Clooney, …yuk!
Unfortunately, Grant Heslov is involved. A good actor (he's the cop friend in "Black Sheep" and the computer nerd in "True Lies"), he wrote, produced and appeared in "Good Night and Good Luck" and now he's the producer/director here. Can I say his politics are a little overt? That said, the movie appears funny and COULD be an apolitical lark, but I doubt it.
Mediocre post responses. Mediocre potato salad. Mediocre tire tread. Yeah yeah. We get it.
"Right. Because real true blue Americans never say anything that other true blue Americans don't want to hear about their holy sanctified country and its emblems and its armed forces."
No. "Real true blue Americans" see what is best about our country, our emblems and our armed forces (notice the use of the word "our", sport). You seem to only see the negatives. You think that we are naive or down right stupid. On the contrary. We know that bad things happen in the military and its members aren't all boy scouts. We just choose to acknowledge all the good and just things accomplished by our Armed Services throughout history.
It's a simple matter of having a desire to embrace what is right and true in this country. We are constantly reminded about what is wrong (or PERCEIVED as wrong) by watching the news or reading a paper (Katie Couric, anyone?). So, yeah! We do get a little ticked off when a vacuous, self-important "thespian" likes to mock something we respect and love. Sue us.
So, keep trolling. I enjoy your little outbursts. So cute!!
Let me put it to you this way: If you have the money to invest in that movie, contact Andrew Breitbart. He knows me…
Respect and reverence is sort of… I donno… how about respect and irreverence? And incredible… maybe… mostly not particularly incredible except for having put themselves in a situation where the opportunity and expectation exists. It's really not false modesty when a soldier says he just did what he was trained to do and anyone would have done it. It's maybe not *true* that anyone would have done it, but I believe it honestly feels that way.
(Perhaps it is because I was enlisted during (but not deployed to) Desert Storm… I just can't see service as something particularly out of the ordinary. So long as you don't have a physical disqualification, anyone can do it; just walk into a recruiter and sign up. And I suggest you do. Military service is something that is seen best from the inside.)
And *really* what Left-Hollywood gets so wrong when it comes to the military is a failure to understand that those in the military are not a special class of jack-booted, dim-witted, losers trained to follow orders but are entirely normal people, neighbors and fathers and sisters and sons, who run the gamut in intelligence and confidence and creativity, who have been socialized into a logistical system designed to move people and material where they need to be, when they need to be there. With guns.
Yes, the "war movies" about the last seven years have sucked beyond any reasonable expectation of suckage. And they've all tanked at the box office. They've portrayed soldiers as victims or as criminals and been primarily about making political statements… it's no wonder they sucked. There was no possibility of anything else.
I'd like to see something heroic, too. I'd like to see a movie that respected those people who volunteer for this fight, and who volunteer for a military life. But I don't know what that movie *is*. I can name some of our heroes off the top of my head and most of the people I know are tired of hearing about one amazing event or another.
And I say "event" rather than "story" on purpose.
There are some very good documentaries out there and many more to be made. But where is the *movie* in those? Where is the story? Take… the Lionesses. Fabulous heroic stuff and I am in AWE. But where is the story arc? How do you write the script?
There are a whole lot of creative people here and plenty of people who write scripts or novels… who deal in stories. What story of heroism (and there are a whole lot to chose from) ought to be made into a *serious* movie and how would you do it?
Someone mentioned David Bellavia. How would you do a David Bellavia *movie*. Story arc, character development and spine and all that stuff.
It is official: You're the Eddie Chandler to my Clark Gable.
It occurs to me that, if blogging had existed in 1964; there would likely have been an equivalent of Big Hollywood strewn with infuriated articles about "The Incredible Mr. Limpet"…
"OUTRAGE! With our boys fighting and dying in Vietnam, Don Knotts DARES release a film portraying our Navy as requiring the aid of a magical talking fish to defeat the Nazis!!!"
It is my patriotic duty to ridicule mind-numbingly stupid, ignorant, and useless pieces of shit Americans like you.
Oh, and I'm very patriotic….
Me too!
Another Clooney dud movie that will fail at the box office…
Well… it *was* to defeat the Nazis and not the Vietcong or even the North Koreans.
Which might be part of the problem here. We need more distance to do it right. Generally we've been getting that distance by making super hero movies, but maybe there is some other way to get it.
Maybe we could make a heroic movie about the Iraqi conflict by getting the necessary distance by doing a story about someone involved with the American military, so we can show our guys being awesome, but still leaving the sort of conceptual space necessary to write a good, entertaining, yarn.
I once heard a story about a Kurdish Peshmerga spy who infiltrated Saddam's organization at some level or other, who managed to get himself out of there without getting caught, and who signed up with the Americans as a translator and, like many "terps" was trying to immigrate to the US. He was initially declined on account of car theft. He'd stole Saddam's limo when he left. (The accuracy of my recollection is immaterial.)
Now, as a writer, I think I could work with this. We get cloak and dagger spy stuff, a handsome hero who we can make up some continued action-adventure while posing as an ordinary interpreter plot about, show a lot of cultural stuff and fighting and our guys (as I said) being awesome and real, and the twist when this hero spy wants to become a US citizen and move here that he's got a criminal record because he "stole a car" which, if done right, would be an excellent emotional punch and deflect a little of the possible charges of being *too* positive about the US military onto the "rules" of a faceless and nameless bureaucracy.
I think that the real guy had a brother and young family who were killed for helping the Americans, and if he didn't others did. The bravery of those in Iraq who risked so incredibly much to step out in faith and help us, and who often lost more than we can imagine… that deserves to be told, too.
And if someone thinks that we won't head to the movies to watch a hero who isn't American… well… assuming State got their heads out of their butts… now he IS American. So there.
Clooney has got to be one of the most over-rated actors. I won't see a movie anymore if he's in it because his presence ruins every scene. He has as much charisma as a cardboard box. Oh, for the days of Cary Grant, Spencer Tracy, Laurence Olivier, Errol Flynn, etc.
Errol Flynn raped underage girls. Grant and Tracy were Communist sympathizers, I hate to break it to you, but yesteryear was even more liberal than Hollywood today. The only Conservative I can think of is John Wayne, and he was a horrendous racist. The golden age is, sadly, all a sham.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_fallacy
Um, yeah actually, Lighten up…Making a Comedy about Physic Soldiers isnt lambasting the American Fighting man.
I have to join the "lighten up" crowd.
At least just based on that trailer. It actually reminded me of "Stripes". Or is that considered overly offensive here as well? Just because the setting is in the military, doesn't necessarily make it an insult.
I loathe Clooney myself, so I have nothing to gain here, but outside of the "Based on a true story" remarks, that trailer doesn't scream offensive to me.
You may think "John Wayne Green Berets territory" is just a bridge too far in terms if reverence for the military. I think there is nothing wrong with it. You should question why people mock The Green Berets as if the reasons were self-evident. It sure has its corny moments, but as a description of the Vietnam war, the movie is arguably no less accurate than later movies like Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, Casualties of War, Good Morning Vietnam and so on. If the latter are seen as somehow more "real" and sophisticated, and less mock-worthy, it is sometimes for aesthetic, but mostly for political reasons.
If I remember correctly, the movie depicts only the first part of the book, the battle around landing zone X-Ray which was fought by the 1st batallion. Rescorla appears after the events depicted in the movie, when he comes with reinforcements for the 2nd batallion that was ambushed and cut up the next day. So that´s ok.
I must say, Rescorla´s life story is utterly amazing.
The movie makes some things up, most annoyingly, the final "Banzai attack" by our soldiers that never happened. But by and large it is accurate and very well made. We were Soldiers is one of the very few exceptions from the rule.
I remember seeing an interview in which a clearly irritated Bill Murray responded to some people alleging Stripes was a pro-military movie pandering to Reagan fans. He rolled his eyes and said with a wan expression, "No, I didn't do the movie because of Reagan. I didn't vote for him and think he was a lousy actor."
I doubt it, Bob. Back then, Nazis and the Commies were commonly viewed to be The Enemy, and any work of fiction in which the Yanks got the upper hand wasn't looked at with a jaundiced eye.
Speaking of Mr. Limpet, though — when I first saw it on TV as a moppet, I was just happy to be watching a feature-length cartoon. When I was a little older, and actually understood the plot, I was freaked out and a little disgusted. Why and how did he turn into a fish? And his poor wife! What a tragedy, I thought. In retrospect, I took it all too seriously, but it's still a weird story — weirder than any animated flick made lately.
And I'm un-American because I say things that you people don't like to hear.
Right. Because real true blue Americans never say anything that other true blue Americans don't want to hear about their holy sanctified country and its emblems and its armed forces.
Since it sounds like that's your definition of "un-American" well then, I'll admit that I do act that way and I enjoy it very much. What you may find hard to fathom is that I consider it part of my PATRIOTIC DUTY.
Do you mean "can" as in 'would theoretically be able to make such a movie', or "can" as in 'is actively trying to get said movie made'?
Name five made within the last ten years. If there are "plenty", it should be easy…
That's not what I said.
I consider it my patriotic duty to tell a bunch of dummies who think they are patriotic because they complain about a movie that patriotism isn't about movies.
I consider it my patriotic duty to argue for what is best for my country. And America will never improve if we settle for mediocrity. Mediocre health care. Mediocre schools. Mediocre competitiveness. Mediocre technology in energy, transportation and infrastructure.
Most people here on BREITBART seem to have NO PROBLEM with any of that. They accept that status quo. Hey- that's okay if they want to settle for that. But if that's your dummy attitude…just don't go on a public forum and act like you care about your country. Don't tell me you are proud to be an American. People like that don't really give a crap about America. They just want to covet their little bit of it.
I gotta tell you, when these people forget that they are but jesters, here for our entertainment, and try to give advice, they lose.
Noone ever takes the jester seriously, They are the fool if they do.
In the words of my favorite Jedi, move along, move along"..
(man I wish someone would troll on me now and then, just so I don't feel so lonely going to the bank).
Sorry to disagree with you. I'm a Vietnam-era military vet, husband is retired with 24 years service and vet of two wars and member of VFW, eldest son in the AF, youngest son in Army and deployed to Afghanistan and I'm pretty sure we'll all be seeing this one. Hopefully we pass the patriotism lithmus test. Get over youselves, please.
Unfortunately I don't have that kind of money laying around, but I'll happily invest in a DVD if it gets made.
I'm as hard on Hollyweird as just about anyone, but after seeing the trailer, I can't join in the outrage. don't think this is a slap at soldiers as much as it is at the Pentagon. For the sake of my workmates, I had to stifle a guffaw at the Jeff Bridges courtroom scene, and I pride myself on being a tough laugh.
OTOH, I got a look for the first time early Monday morning at Clooney's Three Kings, the 1999 Spike Jonze film about Gulf War soldiers looking to steal hidden gold Saddam Hussein supposedly stole from Kuwait. The opening ten minutes of that film made U.S. GI's appear as a rule to be unprofessional, disrespectful, incompetent, ignorant, racist, and trigger-happy. Allegedly a satire, Three Kings looked more like Animal House than Mister Roberts or M*A*S*H.
I am not going to flippantly say "lighten up." I just respectfully disagree with your conclusion.
I'll tell you what I would love to see: A movie based on the true story of Charles Jenkins, the then-young National Guard Sergeant who was so horrifed by Korean War combat he deserted, crossing the border to North Korea and surrendering. He thought he would be soon shuttled to the Soviet Union and then sent back to America, where he would be court-martialed and eventually freed. Instead, the Stalinist NorKoms kept him, brutally beat him, forced him to learn Korean and make anti-American propaganda films, and arranged a prison camp marriage to a Japanese woman kidnapped by Kim Il Sung's henchmen.
Why? Kids today have no idea what living in the shadow of the Cold War was like, they have no idea what communism looks like when it's practiced, and they don't know why "socialism" is a dirty word to so many of their parents.
1. Movie looks dumb. Not even haha dumb, just dumb. So much potential for funny with the subject matter, but the trailer just looks meh at best.
2. George Clooney is in it. I can sense the smug advisory coming on now.
3. We make fun of projects like that because after the fact they look really really dumb, but until you try the wingnut crazy stuff, you don't know if it'll work or not. Let's not forget that we have an entire branch of service now that's based on what was a wingnut psychotic idea 120-130 years ago (Air Force).
I'm sorry everyone but the trailer made me laugh. Maybe it's not so much the movie, but the timing that's bad.
looks like a hoot to me, and not the least bit offensive.
"And America will never improve if we settle for mediocrity. Mediocre health care. Mediocre schools. Mediocre competitiveness. Mediocre technology in energy, transportation and infrastructure."
Absolutely. Which is why we need to get these puling liberals responsible for all of the above *the fuck out of the way* and return to genuine capitalism. Satisfied with the status quo? Hell, no. But we certainly aren't willing to move *backwards* according to the Regressives' prescriptions, either.
When I was on active duty, we enjoyed movies that spoofed the military – "MASH" was a favorite. A number of us also had copies of "Catch-22" on hand. Sometimes we would open it to random pages and start reading out loud, often to hoots of laughter from those around us because Heller had so surgically satirized those necessary elements of military discipline and life that sometimes are taken over the top by zealots.
We could tell, however, when movies, articles, novels, etc., were aimed at trashing the military rather than just laughing along with us. I'll go see this movie because it looks like it could be pretty funny. If it's full of gratuitous military-bashing crap, I'll walk out and report back to you. If it tells a funny story without trashing my military and the brave people in it, I'll report that back to you as well.
If Clooney filled it with gratuitous crap, maybe we can all reconvene here and conduct a virtual psychic circle-jerk like they depict in the trailer to see if we can make Clooney pass out like the goat , preferably when he's walking down the stairs of his Lago Maggiori palace.
PS: The military quadrangle in the trailer looks like the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell, NM. Hmmmm….ooooooeeeeeeeooooo!
Works for me…Imy time is too valuable to waste on drivel like Clloney crap.
i gotta disagree with you guys on this one. this is based off a classic and hilarious book by jon ronson, a fair minded british author. i encourage everyone to pick up his books Them and The Men Who Stare at Goats. they're just great and as much as i hate clooney's politics, i look forward to this movie.
Yes, what an insult to the military. Why can't the left make a movie as respectful and insightful as the conservative-leaning work of art known as "Delta Farce"? Truly it was Larry the Cable Guy's finest hour.
Redacted this aint. I think you're reaching here. The fabricated anger thing just isn't working right now, especially with all the other stuff going on out there that is entirely deserving of condemnation.
Clooney will one day lye with Uncle Teddy Kennedy. What a far cry from his famous pro-America family members whose coattails he rode in on to his anti-American communist shtick.
MEA CULPA: I referred in the previous comment to Three Kings as "the 1999 Spike Jonze film." In fact, the picture was directed by David O. Russell (Spanking The Monkey, I Heart Huckabees, etc.). Jonze (real name Adam Spiegel, Chicago IL 60609) who DID direct Being John Malkovich and Adaptation, was a co-star of George Clooney and Ice Cube in Three Kings.
L.N. Smithee regrets the error, and unlike the New York Times, actually admits his.
MEA CULPA: I referred in the previous comment to Three Kings as "the 1999 Spike Jonze film." In fact, the picture was directed by David O. Russell (Spanking The Monkey, I Heart Huckabees, etc.). Jonze (real name Adam Spiegel, Chicago IL 60609) who DID direct Being John Malkovich and Adaptation, was a co-star of George Clooney and Ice Cube in Three Kings.
L.N. Smithee regrets the error, and unlike the New York Times, actually admits his.
I they are wondering why Hollywood is in trouble. These actors couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
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