Alec Baldwin: Milk Drinkers Not Much Better Than Michael Vick
by Big Hollywood
Alec Baldwin doesn’t see much of a moral difference between Michael Vick and anyone who isn’t a strict vegan:
[Vick] suffers an unfair disadvantage as compared to, say, the heads of a meatpacking plant or the directors of a medical research lab where animals are suffering the cruelest imaginable abuses behind walls and doors that remove them from our sight and, therefore, judgments. … Each day in this country, millions upon millions of animals are suffering lives of daily abuse in factory farming, but we turn away because that animal, unlike Vick’s dogs, ends up on a grill and then on our plates. …
Vick deserves another chance. One chance. Just like all of us who eat meat, drink milk, attend rodeos, circuses, zoos and horse races and yet find it easier to hand Vick the bill for all of the other, more systemic abuses in our society may find ourselves needing another chance one day. Just like Michael Vick.
His full post is here. To save you some time, the following is a summary of the first three paragraphs: “Alec Baldwin Is Awesome.”
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Good lord. Lighten up, Alec. I just had two glasses of milk with my STEAK dinner.
Pshaw. I'm a Level 5 Vegan– I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
He's not a vegan, is he? Because if he is, doesn't that disprove their theory that we're fat because of eating meat?
I'm not one to ridicule someone's looks, for a middle-aged balding man like myself that would be simply stupid, so please don't take this as an ad hominem shot and Sir Alec — but how does a strict Vegan get as overweight as he is? Other than smelling bad, the Vegan's I've come across all look like refugees.
Baldwin's a husky guy for someone on that diet. He must eat a lot of bread.
Alec Baldwin says something moronic and we are suppose to be suprised? This piggie needs to go to market and be hit by a bus.
I will have an extra glass of milk tonight just for you "Baldy" and it has been awhile since I had a nice steak, hmmmm, honey!!
He's right. Although he exaggerates a bit, I'm tired of people bashing Vick, who has paid his debt, while untold numbers of domesticated animals suffer. Now I'm no PETA guy, nor will I ever be a vegan type, but I recognize and abhor the hypocritical nature of many commentators and protesters in regards to this issue. You know, glass houses and whatnot.
holy smokes, sooo that's what's eating him….have a steak, bub. trust me, you'll feel a whole lot better about things.
From the look on his face, I guess booze is vegan friendly…
Alec Baldwin the Face that launched a Million Meat Balls.
I would have thought Alec would have said something along the lines that: Vic is not that much different than someone who hits his wife and leaves abusive messages for his daughter. Remind you of anyone you know Alec?
since this is the only attempt at an intelligent response amongst these replies, i'll take issue with you. you're main argument here is that he is equating the life of a monkey with the life of a human, and is therefore wrong, since human life is more valuable. let's just say you're right on this one. given that premise, do we still have the right to torture other sentient beings for our own personal gain? let's say that we do (i'm granting a lot here). in that case, would you agree that we should do so, only when we are sure that the outcome of this torture, clearly saves human lives, on purely critical terms, not on, say aesthetic terms (like, for instance, spraying perfume into rabbits eyes)?
given that, you should know that 93 percent of all drugs that clear animal trials FAIL in human trials. Ninety-Three percent. virtually all testing done now, is either duplicate testing due to FDA regulations (i.e… all drugs, even the same drug marketed as something else has to be tested), testing done strictly for redundant research in universities (gotta re-secure gov't funding somehow), or testing done for teaching purposes (studies have shown that computer-based teaching is just as effective and much less expensive). the point i'm making here is that the vast majority of all animal testing is gratuitous at best, wasteful and ineffectual at worst. generally, it's just bad science, for the simple fact that no other animal gives human data involving drugs other than humans. we have been trying to make chimpanzees (who share over 99% of our chromosomes) hiv postiive for 25 years and have never been able to infect them successfully with the same virus that humans acquire. the same goes for cancer. the most frequent cancers in humans are breast, prostate, and colon. the animals we test on don't naturally get these diseases.
it's easy to tug at the heart strings and go the whole "we need it to save human lives" route, but the truth is, we really don't wind up saving a lot of lives because of animal research. and we do it at a huge ethical and monetary cost. there are better, more effective ways to test. computer-modelling, human tests (which we already do), STEM CELL RESEARCH. furthermore, the fda rules are antiquated. small modifications on testing protocol could eliminate a large percentage of current testing. finally, the best way to eliminate the animal testing industry is to have a healthier population that doesn't need it's corpulence pumped full of drugs to keep it alive. and guess what the healthiest diet is? bingo. vegan. kind of works together nicely, doesn't it?
and yes, for the record, i am vegan. and i don't look like a prisoner of war (5'9 145lbs)
typical hollywood elitist.dont do as i do.do as i say.i wonder why peta doesnt use nude photos of him?must be from all those carrots
Baldwin is fat for the same reason you never see any emaciated street bums. Booze! Most of it comes from fruit and vegetables, so he's not breaking any Vegan rules.
Whiskey is basically corn juice, isn't it? I just might become a Vegan myself!
Some animals are for food, and some are for friends. (Dear France and Japan and other crazy countries: Horse? Really? Ugh!) Now, if y'all will excuse me, I have a bison to spear and grill. I promise I'll kill it quickly.
Hey Alec, pork chops taste good.
BTW, everyone Google "Clofu."
Soylent, look out! PETA's innovative new protein-rich edible, flavored like the sweat of your favorite Batman, is about to become the new must-have item for gourmands everywhere!
(Yes, I'm serious – except about the favorite Batman part. But, sadly, after market testing, PETA learned that no one wants to eat tofu flavored like George Clooney's stolen sweaty gym towel. Looks like it's a no go.)
I eat, there fore I hunt.
Relax, go get a steak and wash it down with some milk.
You are right, Alec. Those abuses suffered by animals at research labs are indeed unimaginable. Or at least, unimaginable to you. I, however, have an active imagination, and I propose that you take their place. For the good of humanity, of course, not because of any animosity towards you.
He lost his mind a long time ago.
Moral equvalency never works out. It fails to take into account the differences in everything. therefore Alec believes all similar immoral acts are equivalent to morally justifiable acts. What bull crap and self justification. I think the immoral killing of any animal by a Human Being is wrong no matter how you slice it. And no, some immorally disfunctional Humans do not deserve a 2nd chance to kill again. This includes animal testers when their actions are purely for profit and not for the good of mankind. Michael Vick is the moral equivalent of Alec Baldwin, however.
Alec Baldwin molests collies. How's that helping the animal kingdom?
Part 1
"…we really don't wind up saving a lot of lives because of animal research"
Only some lives?
'Some' human lives, I would pose to you – is worth it. You blow over that as if it is meaningless. SOME is always what you get. Never all. Ideally – - never 'none', either.
And for me 7% (assuming your facts are correct) is worth it.
Do I wish computer modelling could be used exclusively? Of course. But data out is only as good as data in. And to take that a step further (being a programmer by trade) – the algorithm has to be built from real data. ie – real testing. It can't be avoided.
All hail Alec Baldwin: The world's fattest vegan!
Wasn't it claimed once that cavemen were healthier and ate a diet of mostly red meat?
But he has no problem with abortion. It's the milk that his him upset.
I know, Alex! Louis Pasteur should be charged posthumously with cruelty to animals….
Speaking of animals, I'd rather listen to a goat fart than listen to Alec Baldwin.
Alright, I've posted my serious though on this one – now for the lighthearted one:
I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain, to not eat everything beneath me.
Alright, I've posted my serious thoughts on this one – now for the lighthearted one:
I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain, to not eat everything beneath me.
One word: MILITANT. You may not believe in killing animals, but you sure can kill a conversation…
Each time a Vegan or someone for PETA tries to tell me what to eat, I have another steak. I think I''l go with a Filet this time. Medium rare.
A) Always B) be C) closing……always be closing!!!!!
Wow, just when you thought these celebrities couldn't get any dumber…
this reminds us of something Moe once said to Curly…
Curly: "I was just thinking…" Moe: "Quit it. every time you think you weaken the nation!"
Cue to Alec Baldwin…
Two things:
1) Is Alec lactose intolerant?
2) Meat is murder …. tasty tasty murder
You huntin' with "Uncle Ted" again Thorien? Mmmmm, Buffalo Steaks……………
If this piggie got hit by a bus, I'd feel more sorry for the bus.
I didn't know it was possible to make s**t taste more like s**t………..PETA is trying though aren't they……..
Amen.
He's been eating to many of his Schwetty Balls.
I don't think he's saying that he's a vegan but that only a vegan can have the moral standing to oppose Vick's dog torture. As usual, a liberal drawing a moral equivalence, nothing to see here. Move along.
He's been eating too many of his Schwetty Balls.
I don't think he's saying that he's a vegan but that only a vegan can have the moral standing to oppose Vick's dog torture. As usual, a liberal drawing a moral equivalence, nothing to see here. Move along.
veg-e-ta-i-an
Noun – Ancient Native American Indian word for "poor hunter"
Holy crap that's brilliant! Replace all the animals used in testing with left wing liberal B-list, C-List and D-list Hollywood actors……………What the hell, throw in the A-listers too………………
Bwahahaha………..
TOFU IS PEOPLE!
My abuse of chocolate cows is, unfortunately, legendary.
Guys, it's time to start eating the vegans. Hell! if we can't eat animals, what else is there to do? As for eating Alec, his fat content is so high McDonald's would turn him back at the door. Imagine how huch degreaser you'd have to use after fryin' up a 1/4 pounder of Alec. Still, after the number of times he's shot off his mouth, maybe Berger King could do a marketing tie in, Alec the Wopper, Wopper with Cheese, or some such.
"Would you like fries with that, Alec, Ms. Basinger?"
"No, my lawyer and I will eat our Alec raw."
"Oh, can I get a take-out order for my daughter. hold the onions."
I have two in the freezer right now. (They're actually from the store – I don't know crap about hunting.)
He's lactose intolerant? That's funny – I'm abortion intolerant.
". . . accidentally paper-cut yourself to death . . . "
Barkerman, I'm still literally LOL!
That's great! Miss the Stooges.
If Alec Baldwin is a Vegan then how come he's so fat? That's just not right.
SHUT UP ALEC, YOU LITTLE PIG! YOU ARE SUCH A LITTLE PIG! What? Being recorded? Oops…
HA!
Hunting is easy. Point the gun at what you want to eat, then pull the trigger………..And no it isn't Liberal hunting season yet………….
Vegan/vegatarian…old native American/Indian words for "Bad Hunter"…"me *Chief Oops I Missed*, you havem any spare buffalo, hmmm? Leftover deer in the ol' teepee over there? Me sick of corn…"
One word: thalidomide. The USA was spared the epidemic of birth defects caused by this drug in the fifties because (wait for it) – the FDA was waiting for the results of animal testing before approving it for human use.
When you develop a better system for developing lifesaving drugs you will be very wealthy and can show us all how its done. Until then, shut up and go away.
A vegetarian conservative rolls his eyes at the ridiculous "hell if I ain't gonna grill me a steak" me-too-ism.
You strike me as a "The end justifies the means" kind of person. Saving "some lives" really isn't worth crossing extreme ethical boundaries. This reminds me of the leftwing crazy's who routinely argue that abortion is a good method of population control. Whatever the outcome, crossing those ethical boundaries is not worth it.
lot's and lot's and lot's and lot's of butter soaked vegtables…
One word: thalidomide. The USA was spared the epidemic of birth defects caused by this drug in the fifties because (wait for it) – the FDA was waiting for the results of animal testing before approving it for human use.
When you develop a better system for developing lifesaving drugs you will be very wealthy and can show us all how its done. Until then, shut up and go away.
THE POST TO WHICH I WSAA TRYING TO REPLY SEEMS TO HAVE VANISHED>
My reply to Sanmon is that maybe if his (Baldwin's) wife & daughter were "companion animals" he'd treat them decently.
I like Swiss cows 'cause they give us yummy cheese!
I assume that Mr. Baldwin, as a moral vegan, will not be using the various drugs discovered through research and testing on animals. That coronary bypass without anesthesia ought to be real gas!
…nobody weeps for the lettuce.
Milk-drinkers are like dog-fighters (people who make dogs fight, not people who fight in planes)?
The way I see it, Arec Barwin is worthress. Now let me state my view on this matter.
I have no qualms about eating meat or other animal products because there is a hierarchy in nature — we call it the "food chain." Saving this or that cute animal only saves them for the carnivores, which we will do nothing about in the grand scheme of things. Since we do not intend to police nature to make sure animals respect the "rights" of other animals, we are really only protecting the carnivores. You would have to prioritize the animals.
Secondly, we do not expect wild animals to give us quarter — in fact, we usually assume the opposite, especially when they are big and mean. Peace treaties with beasts are not possible — you can be as vegan as you want, but you'll still be a target. Since we accept that certain types of animals will always try to harm us, we go ahead and eat them. We can only look out for ourselves as a species, because the beasts have their own problems.
One should distance themselves from the romantic notions of Disney cartoons — ecosystems are not societies of animals that all get along, then cooperate when the big bad humans come to destroy it for condos and strip malls. It is more like a human city constantly under assault by demons, vampires, and aliens simultaneously, like Somalia turned up to eleven.
My $0.02.
Only one thing to disagree with you on – it is not stem cell research that Christians are against – it is fetal stem cell research. Many (Including former President Bush) are all for stem cell research which, by the way, has produced far more results than fetal stem cell research.
As for the torture of these animals, yes it is sad, but the picture painted is far from the reality of what it really is – is it pretty or perfect? hell no, but if i had to choose between the testing facility and Vick's house, I would take the testing facility.
Reminds me of a joke I heard years ago – I am not all excited about animals being killed in the name of science, but if a doctor told me that we could cure cancer by hooking a monkey's brain to a car battery I only have two things to say – the red is positive and the black is negative.
I'm guessing ol' Alec is a big, fat hypocrite on this issue like liberals are on so many issues…
What a Moron……
Do you know the pain a milk cow goes through if she "ISN'T" milked…….
I'm calling bs on Baldwin on this one.
You don't get that pudgy on a vegan diet, it's just not possible.
Make mine a Porterhouse…the eye is the best part!
DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT I JUST LOST 15 F**KING I.Q. POINTS JUST READING SOMEONE ELSE'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THIS BALDWIN JACK@$$ HAS TO SAY?
I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY TO SPARE, DAMMIT!!!!!
Well, gee….thanks, Big Hollywood!
I'll pay attention to Alec Baldwin's views on morality and values….as soon as I hear a sincere apology from Mr. Baldwin to his daughter Ireland. I'll just be here, holding my breath for that.
So eating meat makes Alec Baldwin angry? Wow, another reason for me to enjoy being a carnivore.
Who is Alec Baldwin? Guy looks a bit porky for a Vegetarian LOL.
Sweeping condemnation of medical testing on animals is a bit simplistic. When people like Mr. Baldwin portray it as simply cruel torture I tend to stop listening to anything else they have to say. My daughter's life was saved because of open-heart surgeries conducted on dogs in the 1940s. (There is actually a good HBO movie about the two people who developed the surgery. It's called Something the Lord Made. PBS made a documentary about the same people called Partners of the Heart. I'm very thankful for those dogs and the people willing to experiment on them.)
vegan, liberal, the man is basically just way to full of himself. Besides, he is such a tool.
Is it just me or does Alec Baldwin look ready to do a remake of THE SHINING. For real.
How ignorant is the media and the ex hippie crowd is. There socialized green education serves them very little. Why don't they confess their guilt and spare the rest of us. If we don't eat animals their flatulence causes the greenhouse gasses to go up IE then they create global warming and we will have to kill them, but if we don't eat them their rotting corpses will be such a health hazard the new socialized health care will not be able to carry the exponential patient load so that treatment will be rationed to only those between 15-50 years old. Millions will die, the land and rivers will be cesspools of filth and disease, the planet will burn up, animals will turn on humans(Oh the Humanity)within 50 years only bugs and plants will survive(maybe this is a entomology, botanic conspiracy taking over unsuspecting people minds in an effort to keep pot from being legalized) The solution kiddies is to drink your milk, eat your hamburgers and cheese, be nice to your pets and eat all your vegaterians( i mean vegetables)
Wait, you're actually questioning the premise that an animal's life is not equal to that of a human? I can't stand the thought of experimenting on or otherwise harming animals in any way, but I have never for a second questioned its unfortunate necessity in some cases. For examples, see the posts below. Next time you say these things, don't say you're a vegan too, that just makes your entire group look bad. Also, before you go around talking about who does and doesn't have an intelligent post, maybe you should capitalize the beginning of your sentences? What did you do, fail English or something?
For clarity, no animals were harmed in the typing of this post.
This is why I don't watch 30 Rock.
Alec Baldwin looks like he needs to be milked.
"Alec Baldwin looks like he needs to be milked."
Ain't no way I'm touching those boobs .
Baldwin must be the fattest vegan I ever have seen. I say he must be shoving HoHo's in his mouth at night, under the cover of darkness.
What happened to your face Alec ?
He looks awfully puffy for someone who is a vegan. Does he drink olive oil?
Alec, here's a clue… look at your teeth. We are all omnivores, you moron!
Seriously, I can't understand why they think tthey have such a great diet. They have to take supplements and what they can eat is so restrictive. I say, the redder the better.
Also, aren't vegans eating only plant life? You know, the organisms that store away carbon? Therefore aren't vegans making so-called global warming worse? How do they justify that?
Save the world, eat a vegan.
I disagree, but if he honestly lives the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle he's promoting (or is at least "converting into it," since there's apparently some pretty serious health risks if you make that switch "just like that") then I'd say he's entitled to this particular perspective.
For my part, I sincerely hope that Vick somehow manages to sustain a career-ending on-field injury sometime early in the season. And if that happens, I'll voluntarily enter a church for the first time in about a decade so that I may light a candle for whoever it was that hit him.
Is Michael Vick any worse than Alec Baldwin ? Are either of them any worse than any of us ? (No not you of course, … jus' sayin'…)
Thats one of the many side effects of being a pompous wind bag. After all the years huffing, puffing, rabid drooling and barely controled rage Alec's body matches perfectly with his personality.. a giant sack of crap.
Let's asnswer this by trying tolist potebtially fattening Vegan foods…….
All the vegetable oil in salad dressings, fake mayonaisse, starches in potatoes, breads, legumes. Peanut Butter. Tofu is actually not that great I hear (the beans are processed), anything with sugar in it.
That's all I can think of….. Must be lots of peanut butter in the Baldwin household!
Let's asnswer this by trying tolist potentially fattening Vegan foods…….
All the vegetable oil in salad dressings, fake mayonaisse, starches in potatoes, breads, legumes. Peanut Butter. Tofu is actually not that great I hear (the beans are processed), anything with sugar in it.
That's all I can think of….. Must be lots of peanut butter in the Baldwin household!
Now now boys… let's not piss Adam Baldwin off shall we I like his posts here so I'll leave Alec alone over there!
So if I join PETA exactly how many pitbulls do I get to hang upside down on a hook to slowly watch them bleed to death!
Is there a handbook that covers that! Just wondering
What a tool!
Well gthere was this one guy but the locked him up ………………
Nope and hope to Jehovah I never find out either ba dump dump
That's SO not kosher
The only Baldwin whose worth a darn is ADAM BALDWIN!!!!
(and smile when you say that!)
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