Open Thread: ABC’s “The Goode Family” 9/8c
by Big Hollywood
Review, debate, discuss ABC’s “The Goode Family” series premiere. Is it funny? Is it sharp? Does it have a future? Have it out…
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wasn't a big 'King of the Hill' fan; but next to McFarlane's dreck it seemed Hamlet-like in comparison. This does sound like a one joke affair- and will they have the courage to really explore the PC nightmare that now passes for family life? Judge is a talented guy and he could very well pull this off- if the media will allow it…
It made my mom laugh. I think we have a winner.
*MissQuinn*
Already chuckled at the range of produce prices…
I dont feel guilty about any if the gas I use.
and liberals have no sense of humor ever.
It was pretty funny. In particular I liked the dog, and the bit about the grocery bags. I hope ABC gives it time to develop.
It was pretty funny. In particular I liked the dog, and the bit about the grocery bags. I hope ABC gives it time to develop.
LA Times and NPR hates it. So it must be the greatest cartoon ever made.
I liked the scenes in the grocery store…funny! The show does expose the humor of the lib lifestyle while tweaking the ultra-right (purity rings, for example). It seems better suited for Fox than ABC but if the network can cut back on ridiculous "reality shows" with dancing has-beens, this show could work for them.
It was pretty good. Too bad so many of the jokes had already been shown on the Internet. I hope the well doesn't go dry too soon.
It's a mixed bag for me. It's one of the only shows openly mocking the left (with the exception of South Park occasionaly), so the humor is fresh and much funnier than tired Bush jokes. It pokes lots of fun at the logic of the extreme left. All in all, the jokes are very funny.
However, the show itself isn't great. It just feels like a bunch of liberal jokes stringed together, with no real story, character, etc. This was just the pilot, so it's to early to judge. However, if it continues in this vein, it will never be a great show, just one that's worth a watch.
For instance, the "Smug Alert" episode of South Park was 1000x funnier than "The Goode Family" pilot.
It was ok. Problem is that it's on network tv and can probably only go so far. Southpark has already tackled so much of the hypocrisy of the sanctimonius Left that it's tough to compete with those guys. They are running the Kanye West is a gay fish episode again tonite.
A few chuckles…pretty one-note. But I didn't watch much King of The Hill, either. Liked the produce and bag jokes, but that was about it. It's gonna get killed by the NBA playoffs.
I didn't watch King of the Hill, so I don't know how Judge & co. deliver jokes. It seemed like it was pretty heavy handed. I'd have liked a but more subtlety but hey, ITS A CARTOON. That said, I'll be front and center next week.
Funny.
It's better than ABC News, but that ain't sayin' much.
Are there any wise latinas in it?
I thought it was pretty good. It could be better but I like it enough to watch it each week.
Judge’s comic portrayal of the father figure seems unique in today’s television. Regardless of his dunderings throughout the episode, by the end the father is a sensible good-natured person. This was true of Hank Hill and the Goode dad tonight. Almost every other show on TV portrays the father as the most incompetent, idiotic and irresponsible.
Great show, I feel it will get better as the episodes go on, i love the fact it shows how they try to be racially sensitive but by doing so seem more racist than ever.
It had its moments but I don't know if I can take hanging out with these characters. When it was over I felt like I needed a shower to shed the leftwing ick.
'Goode' enough to watch again. It will have to do more to keep me watching, however.
I liked it. It was irreverent in this new age of Liberal correctness. It skewered both sides of the political spectrum equally, and that is so very rare in our popular media.
Arg! I missed it due to time zone issues. I saw 9 and missed EST … I'll have to try to catch it on the net or watch it next week.
Wise…… not sure
but they do have empathy
I found myself laughing more then I expected. Being a "dog" person, the dog scenes were great. I'm glad he didn't give in to the vegan kibble, and know he enjoyed the "tasty treats" provided by that cat & bird at the end.
It was fun to see the Left lampooned.
I liked the sound effect of the hybrid
as opposed to the muscle car in the
road race. As well as the Lefty Moms
trying to out do each other concerning
their acceptance of teenage sexuality.
Humor has truth in it. That was funny.
Let's see if the Left can take it as well
as they can dish it out.
I loved the gist of the jokes, but didn't find it to be as funny as I hoped. I think that this format kinda forces Judge into a type of humor that limits the nuances of his style. King of the Hill was a winner, and this needs to have a similar, more subtle tone. He's great at developing characters, but the Dad was the only one with any depth. Everyone else seemed a little one-dimensional, especially the wife and son, Ubuntu, or whatever his name was. Even the folks on the "other side" — the neighbor and the abstinence girl seemed a little shallow to me. I think this is the risk you take when you design the main characters to be the butt of the jokes. You have to keep them likable and interesting, but not too likable and interesting. The neighbor will play a big part as one of the lone & consistent voices of sanity.
I think that, overall, it could stand to be toned down a little, with more emphasis on a story moral. I loved that it pointed out the absurdities of liberals and took jabs at (God forbid) Obama with the flag pin, but it had too much–too many jabs, and not enough follow-through. What I'd like to see is more depth in terms of issues, and more time devoted to why political correctness, enviro-statism, liberal hypocracy, etc. is so ridiculously stupid, rather than gotcha one-liners.
Having said that, I salute Mike Judge and crew for having the balls to do this show. I will check back in a few weeks when it hits its stride.
it was pretty funny! love a show that makes fun of liberals, so i enjoyed it!
Did anyone else notice that Bliss was reading the Economist? Not an extremely right wing magazine, but pro business and capitalism.
If this show is given time to develop, I'm keeping an eye on Bliss
I found it better than I expected. My favorite scene: By the trash cans –
They're not like us. They wear flag pins!
Now honey, since the election, we can ALL wear flag pins.
Are you going to start wearing a flag pin?
No.
BTW, "Ubuntu" is a freeware Unix-clone operating system. Translated, it means "service to humanity." It was invented by South African Mark Shuttlesworth.
i loved king of the hill, and i liked this show. the only part i didn't really care for was the purity ring bit, which seemed more like christian bashing than comedic. the grocery store scenes were hilarious, as anyone who has shopped at Whole Foods can attest to. i will continue to watch and see what they do with this concept.
Great point. If the Left hat it, it is probably good. The adopted African boy thing looks hilarious.
Reminded me of this Onion-style parody titled "Cap-and-Trade Bill Expanded to Develop Markets in Household Radical Environmentalists":
http://www.optoons.blogspot.com/
At first I was worried that many people wouldn't get the jokes, But even my teenage kids laughed at it. Especially love the scary "FLAG PIN"!
More hit than miss. The Good Earth grocery scene was wickedly funny. Ubuntu is a little too Moose Palooka; had me wondering how a kid raised on a vegan diet could get so beefy.
I'll definitely watch again.
I liked the grocery items switching places from the good to bad column in the store and enjoyed the meat/pet craving dog. And the "it's in Memphis" joke even though I've seen many comics do the same joke. The actor's read was great. Halfway through I realized this could turn into a great show like King of the Hill.
The dog scenes were the best. Hope they get really unPC. I was disappointed with the ending and the attack on the church. I don't go to church and do not consider myself a religious person, but attacks on Christians on tv is routine its a turn off. I mean can't we just have one show slamming the liberals without equal bashing of a christian group. I will watch again, but if the liberal,characters always get redeemed in the end, I will not cont. to tune in. Please attack Obama and his followers. Plenty of material to go around. Attack the press and network tv. Millions would tune in for that.
This line from the LA Times review sounds like it could have been written by Judge for the show:
"With the natural world being rapidly undone by our thirst for convenience, it seems an odd time to mock hybrid cars and reusable shopping bags."
Fairly funny…but a little thin. Maybe when they get beyond the pilot episode they will hit their stride. I expect the neighbor to be the lone voice of sanity…perhaps they'll give him a sarcastic sense of humor to point out the absurdites pouring out in front of him.
Oh, boy. Hate to say this, but it reminded me of "American Carol." The premise seemed awesome in theory, but when I actually watched it, I felt uncomfortable. It was too overtly political somehow.
Compare it with South Park. The Al Gore episode, for example. Not a single mention of "global warming" or "climate change." Instead, it was Manbearpig. First of all, how can you not laugh at Manbearpig? Secondly, they were ripping on Gore personally—his stiffness, his obliviousness, his pathetic need for attention—more than the global warming religion. Even liberals can find that funny. (Okay, some of them.)
Thus, "Goode" seems too political, yet paradoxically, not mean enough. One of the things I love about South Park is how utterly cruel and merciless they are. Think of the Bono episode. They don't make him LOOK like crap. They suggest that he literally IS crap. A walking, talking, corn-filled log of human dung. Now that's funny!
"Goode" is too nice. Parker and Stone don't give a rat's ass whom they offend. Judge and his writing partners seem to be bending over backwards not to offend anyone. Sure, the Prius sounds funny when it revs its engine—but then it turns out to be competitive with the muscle car! What?! My mom has one of those. It's a glorified golf cart! That should've been the joke—that the "emergency" vehicle takes so looong to come to the rescue—but they didn't want to offend any Prius owners.
I'll keep watching, hoping I'm wrong, but I fear that no "Goode" deed will go unpunished (especially considering what ABC did to "Path to 9/11").
I think "The Goode Family" has potential, but only if it becomes more biting in its satire. Although the libs in this show subscribe to all of the usual lib b.s., they are nice and passive, whereas most every lib I've known is smug, self-righteous, and condescending to those who disagree or aren't as "enlightened" as they believe themselves to be. That said, I did like the bit about the family recoiling at the sight of an American flag pin. On the downside, I think that the son "Umberto" is a useless character, much like Bill in KOTH, in my opinion. I'll tune in again though to see where it goes. It took a while for KOTH to grow on me.
How long before some Liberal group considers the show "a form of hate speech" and "intolerance"?
Mark my words.
Che is the only socially redeeming element. I have empathy for him — and according to The ONE, that is what matters.
Naming the kid "Ubuntu" is freaking brilliant.
I think that's a given, seeing that it's been reviewed negatively on NPR, a liberal deity (subsidized, in part, at taxpayer expense).
Dude…Manbearpig *IS* Global Warming.
Did you not get that?
If anything, I thought The Goode Family was a bit more subtle overall, more akin to King of the Hill.
I thought it was awesome.
Hope this one has legs.
Definitely some good qualities to this show but I agree that the characters need development since most of the humor involves very easy, one off, jokes. Of course pilots are usually garbage; the last really good pilot I've seen is Cheers. Hopefully ABC is going to give this a 13 episode shot at success so we can see if it's worthwhile..
It wasn't as good as I expected it to be (maybe because basically I've already seen half the episode due to previews and trailers.). But then again, King of the Hill started out kind of dull too, then it grew to become one of my favorite shows. I will give this a couple of more chances, since I believe the setting has opportunity.
Bleh. As red-blooded as I am, this just struck me as a bunch of inverse-Bush jokes. It may be funny to the other side when in their direction, but it was really lame coming back. I'm just not willing to hoot and clap at references to the other side. Some good moments, but the rest was unwatchable enough that we gave up halfway through.
ABC may beat them to it!
Funny, but a little random. It needs to focus if it's going to be great. I laughed a lot though (especially when he said it was OK now to wear a flag pin, but then admitted he'd never do it). I think it has a lot of potential.
I got a kick out of Mr. Goode and Bliss thinking the purity promise ring had something to do with incest. People of corrupt moral character always gravitate to disgusting thoughts about things. I think that's what that scene illustrated. The ring wasn't a marriage ring. It was simply a ring symbolizing the daughter's promise to her father. To run away in fear over something like that demonstrates just how far the Left (and many on the Right–it's culture-wide these days) has strayed from simple normalcy and goodness.
What bashing of Christians? The Christian dad and his daughter neither did nor said anything objectionable. The joke was in the liberal Goodes' over-the-top reaction to their completely innocent relationship. The girl gave her dad a ring to wear as a concrete symbol of her promise to him. What in the world is crazy about that?
We're so used to seeing things through the mocking eyes of the left, we assume we were meant to laugh at the Christian dad and daughter…because on any other show we would have been. But in this case, as far as I can see, there was nothing there to mock. The perverts and weirdos in that scene were the secular dad and daughter.
This is on ABC, guys, not on cable. There's no way a show like South Park could ever make it past the network censors, even in this libertine age, nor will anything too nasty toward liberals make it past ABC execs. I was actually impressed with how much mileage Judge got out of his twenty minutes tonight and I think it can only get better as time goes on and the writing/acting team gets tighter and more comfortable with the characters.
Have you ever watched the debut episodes of those three shows, particularly The Simpsons? Not exactly Emmy material. Give the show and its writers a chance.
Most pilots for hour-long series are good these days–assuming, of course, that the show itself is good. I think Hollywood has figured out that you only get one chance with all of the entertainment options out there now, so they get a handle on their characters and treat the pilot like they would a motion picture. Lost, Chuck, Alias, the Unusuals . . . all pilots that set things up and were good enough in their own right to make me want to come back for more.
The same doesn't seem to hold true for sitcoms. They have a shorter amount of time to work with, and the characters take a back seat to the jokes since the writers/producers know they have to make you laugh and let you know how comedy will be handled with that particular show. As a result, sitcom pilots are not often very good nor an indication of how good the show might turn out to be.
I liked the Goode Family enough to come back to it next week, but it does tend to fall into this category. I know enough about the characters, but they're fairly one-note. I don't know how they can sustain an ongoing series, but I think the same was true of the first episodes of King of the Hill.
The jokes were mostly funny–especially in the grocery store. I know someone who goes on about "fair trade," and it was amusing to see a row of identical apples with different price points based on how many liberal buzz words they could fit on the sign. Like others, I was a little leery of the "we also hit at the right" church gym scene, but it could also be seen as the Goodes not understanding what was going on there. The ring exchange was clearly explained, but they thought it was akin to a father marrying his daughter? I think it was the show saying, "This is weird, folks," but it could be taken the other way as well.
Anyway, a decent but not great pilot. I've already set up a series recording, and I hope it finds its legs.
I'll have to watch it. I have always laughed at Global Warming.
I thought it was pretty good. Loved the whole "flag pin" bit and how the more "organic" something is the more rediculously expensive it is.
Also liked how they did not make fun of staying abstinent itself or Christians in general. In fact, it explained the merrits of staying abstinent. The one thing they did (rightfully) make fun of on that whole issue is how creepy the whole promise ring and purity dance thing is. I didn't even think the latter was true until I actually looked it up.
The best parts for me were the dog and the One Earth grocery scenes. Some of the other jokes seemed too obvious though and seemed too rapid fire or oddly placed. Overall, I'm not over the moon about it yet, but it has potential. I think what other comments have alluded to regarding pilots is important to keep in mind. With a pilot you're trying to sell the whole concept, so it's going to be broader. Hopefully next week will give us a better representation now that the character introductions are out of the way.
Family Guy is an insult to comedy…
ZZZZZZZ! NOT FUNNY!
Too timid. They better stop holding back or this show is history before it even begins.
I thought the ongoing starving dog joke was funny. And the whole idea that their adopted son was "african american" was hiliarious.__What wasn't funny (because it was too painfully true) is the mother's lecture on the people that wear flag-pins and the not-so-secret truth that liberals preach tolerance for everyone but the right. And I thought that they did a good(e) job poking fun of the very weird practice of chastiy balls without damning all Christians in the process.
Fantastic.
The Dog's bloodlust was the highlight of the show, my white South African friend was quite horrified by the portrayal of his countrymen.
I liked it. The Mother was so so typical of the liberal angst I see in the natural food store. Theses people are under a lot of pressure.
I saw that. Funny detail.
It's got a ways to go to measure up to KOTH. Part of the problem is that the Goodes (apart from the dad, who was basically an updated Mr. Van Dreesen) don't appear to be a particularly likable lot. More to the point, it's easier to lazily caricature a lifestyle that is fairly cartoonish to begin with! I think they'll need to develop a strong "bench" of supporting players. The black neighbor will probably be the "sensible"/"perpetually mystified" foil, but he doesn't appear to have the quirks that made Bill, Dale, and Boomhower so enjoyable. None of the wife's acquaintances at the grocery store impressed me much.
One "hidden" joke that I really liked was the fact that Goode's "academia" consisted of a junior college. Nothing against JCs, but this was academic pretense taken to delightfully absurd lengths. Had Goode worked at an elite liberal arts (emphasis on the first word) college, it wouldn't have been nearly as funny. I'd bet that some of the most ideologically pretentious and annoying people in academia work in obscure places like that.
I think you're right–it will be interesting to see the direction she goes in. What I got from this first episode, was that she was your typical teenage daughter, and her choice to be in with the abstinence crowd for example, was more to piss her folks off than an ideological decision. But, maybe that's not such a bad thing. I would love it if she turns out to be a female Alex P Keaton.
I thought the NPR review was interesting –something about the jokes done to death before. Funny, I don't remember seeing them, except maybe on South Park. Surely the left doesn't joke about all those sacred cows among themselves?
I thought it was OK. Love the dog named "Che", and forcing it to go against its nature in the name of political correctness (which is what political correctness is about anyway), and the HORROR expressed when the mother didn't show up at One Earth (aka Whole Foods) with a canvas shopping bag. The father reminded me a bit of Mr. VanDreesen, the boys PC hippie teacher on "Beavis and Butthead".
A little dig at the church/Christians, but sometimes they are their own worst enemy (full disclosure: I am one of those reviled "religious right" types). Unlike some of the other perpetually-offended classes (mainly on the left), generally Christians can take it. I hope it goes into the left's INtolerance more (like when the mother saw the cross and the flag lapel pin and was horrified).
What was interesting was how the show ridiculed the idiocy of the SWPL Yuppiedom, based on an eternal, exhausting, and foolish status competition, mostly driven by the wives. The wife is ashamed her husband is not higher earning/status, is in constant competition for moral purity with the other wives, and seems the main force behind the family's PC dogma. In a lot of ways, the Goode Family is just "keeping up with the Joneses" except emanating from a Academia ghetto instead of a wider world.
The Goodes, though soked in new age/PC/liberalism is actually very traditional at root.
The mother is obsessed with being liked and accepted – a common female trait. Don't give me any of that "you're a sexist" jazz – you know that it drives women crazy to think that someone doesn't like them for some reason.
The father is more practical and solution oriented. Splitting the 2-ply toilet paper is silly – but it is a rational and action-based response to what he sees as a problem.
The 16 year-old son spouts, by rote, cliches like "meat is murder" – but he can't deny his innate desire to drive the family car or his intense need for speed. He may feel sorry for wasting gasoline – but he knows he'll do it again at every opportuninty.
The daughter is a typical teen. She loves her family but is embarrassed and exasperated by them too.
The dog is symbolic of the whole clan. They have tried to suppress his true nature – but nature will out.
I wanted to love it but I ended up simply liking it. I'll watch it again. The part in the grocery store where Mrs. Goode was panicking about paper or plastic was hilarious.
"But it's okay to wear them now…"
Loved it. Best part…they don't get it.
On Fox they can't make "View" references…or "Dancing w/ the Stars" references, etc.
it has the potential to be a hit if ABC gives it time and Judge begins to really develop the characters the way he did in KOTH. The only concern I have is that even while KOTH was amazing in the first few episodes, you could see the openings they had to really develop the characters. Unless there's a change, I don't really see much room to develop anyone beyond maybe the parents.
I think we need to let the family grow on us, see them as being too hard on themselves. Like the Hills, they're going to get pressured to be "progressive" (in this case to be even more progressive) but in the end they'll have learn to accept themselves (even if just until the next episode).
that should read "even while KOTH wasn't amazing in the first few episodes"
I thought it was funny (for the last half that I caught) I will keep watching to see if it gets better though.. I did however find the show right after (Surviving Suburbia) hilarious with Bob Saget portraying the closet dirty man (since he is a dirty man in the first place)
I'm 15 minutes into the online version and the grin won't go go away.
Good point. Portrayal of a positive father figure has become a rare commodity.
Judge likes his characters, even as he pokes fun at them, and it show through.
I found it funny. Its jokes poking fun at left wing hypocracies were great. I love that they praised there ultra-tolarance but had no tolarance of any conservatives who wear a flag pin.
The best line, heard over the intercom at the grocery store: "The owner of the SUV is now in aisle four…"
Paul, that's the first thing I remember.. I watched the first episode of KOTH.. and it was just kind of dragging.. and then it hit a flow almost immediately afterwards (or every episode that Cotton is in
)
Never have been a fan of KOTH. Parts of Goode I thought were funniest were when they showed either the absurdity of denial of reality (forced vegan dog hunting down a bird) or hypocrisy (we can wear Flag pins now, but won't because even though we say left is patriotic we're uncomfortable with the symbolism of the flag conveying what….?). Like any comedy there has to be the element of truth. Hope the series will go down the hypocrisy road I'm familiar with- 'green' and 'liberal' folks who lecture me about my US truck and SUV but then regularly ask to borrow them (I get no credit for the Kawi' cycle I actually commute on). Or argue how GM and Chrysler must be saved for the workers, but then insist US cars are garbage and only buy foreign, btw probably made in the US by non-union workers. (I have towed their late model foreign quality with my US made garbage. Go figure.)
Funny indeed. It will be a breath of fresh air from the same nonsense that most PC channels pump out in order to numb the mind's of the masses.
It was a bit disjointed, first episodes always are because the characters are not established yet, but it had some hilarious digs at liberals.
Here is what I think the shows problem might be; the characters just are not likable people. This could be the trouble with writing a comedy where the main characters are super liberal, you simply can't stand them as people so rooting for them is impossible and ultimately you have to root for the main character to have any attachment to them. I figure it will take about 5 episodes or so for them to establish the characters but the fact that they're a-holes is going to make it tough. See King of the Hill had likable characters and in spite of some of the goofy things they did you were always pulling for them, it felt like the writers wanted you to like them, The Goode Family you can tell the writers detest these people as much as we do.
Maybe they'll run with Bliss as the shows protagonist, sort of the sane person in the asylum. As far as the well drying up on the humor that will never happen, no one acts more ridiculous than a modern liberal so the jokes will always be there.
Enjoyed it. It was somewhat shocking to see liberal views skewered in the media. Just not used to it. Liked that they also skewered the right, but I'm used to that. Would love to see a series along the lines of "All in the Family" but with human actors. Done right it might actually stimulate thought and discussion vs blind obedience to the absurdity and phoneyness of political correctness.
I will watch again, but if the liberal,characters always get redeemed in the end, I will not cont. — what you said. South Park already did the ring thing.
strange you should say that about "Amercan Carol". I felt the same way and I can not explain it. Some parts were knee slappin' hilarious and others just……….man, I do not know………what, …..flat?
They do it to themselves. If we are lucky, they will all end up in phsycotherapy. Oh, wait….they already are……
if they eminated from the wider world, they would be conservative leaning, moderate, normal vis-a-vis, fruit loopes.
(I have towed their late model foreign quality with my US made garbage. Go figure.)
been there, done that! aaaaand rest assured, I rub it in.
Saw it a while ago. I actually laughed during this episode. Not chuckle, genuine laughter. When was the last time I felt that during a Family Guy episode.
Che the dog, in particular cracks me up. Ubuntu also gets some great laughs.
Of course, by storyline, there's isn't exactly any groundbreaking stuff here, but nice enough.
Ah, this is gonna be great.
Good point – and with the next-door neighbor a black guy – middle-class, mild-mannered and truck-driving – they're set up to expand on that theme. Hope they do.
"Do you guys have a yearly convention…."
"It's in Memphis."
Lol.
Reminds me that (the smug-left-winger) Bob Wright over at bloggingheads.tv feeds his dog Spoon-Size Shredded Wheat.
Um, that last point was made just a little while ago by a guy named Groucho Marx on an episode of the Dick Cavett show.
I was pleasantly surprised, even though I was afraid that it would have a tough time poking fun at the main characters (if they're the target of scorn, it's hard to make them central, the audience has to like something about them). But it did this well by picking on more radical targets such as the Whole Foods store and the shoppers there. Like King of the Hill, the humor is based on the characters, it's not the jokes in and of themselves that are funny but who the character saying the joke is. Hank Hill's references to Tom Landry were funny not because Tom Landry is funny, but because we can identify with the quirks in Hanks personality for Tom Landry. I think the Goode Family will work the same way. Give it a little time, and it could be very good.
I think the whole family will be treated fairly sympathetically. I enjoyed the subtlety of the jabs. The show isn't making fun of the characters as much as it is making fun of the dilemmas of trying to do all the PC stuff we are told we should be doing. This is where the show parts company with more mean-spirited shows like South Park and Family Guy.
Mike Judge seems to be driven mainly by common sense. I don't at all mind that he also pointed out some of the obvious creepiness of abstinence programs. All told, I was pleasantly surprised that it was not a full-on hatchet job of liberals. I see it as more of a wake up call to people who take it all way too seriously, on both sides of the fence. Like King of the Hill, this show appears aggressively moderate to me.
WeaponX: See my point above. I like to have a character to root for in an animated series and, apart from Goode and Bliss, no such candidates jump out at me just yet. But maybe the grandfather (who still hasn't been properly introduced) will be a dark horse contender.
Dude, listen to the DVD commentary. South Park's main target was Al Gore the man, not so much the global warming religion.
But like I said, I hope I'm wrong. I really do. And when I think about it, the first few episodes of South Park left me pretty cold, too. So best of luck to Judge and the show. It certainly shows great courage to take on the targets they did, and I will keep watching.
You nailed it. King of the Hill was "milder." It was not preachy.
I am going to give the Goode Family time to develop, but I am not sure how they can drag this out. Mike Judge is brilliant, but what made King of the Hill work was that it poked fun in a softer manner.
Yes, this is much better than leftist drivel, but I totally agree that the South Park Smug episode was hysterical.
This has potential. We shall see.
eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
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