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		<title>By: John_McClain</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_McClain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;these people who believe in man-made global warming&quot; 
 
Simple, they don&#039;t </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;these people who believe in man-made global warming&quot; </p>
<p>Simple, they don&#039;t</p>
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		<title>By: USArtguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>USArtguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not confused. Your memory may have faded.  
  
The first meeting with the thugs, the family had pulled to the side of the road. The thugs drive past and get out. The father tells his family to get in the camper then he confronts the 3 thugs. They rough him up and take his pistol and point it at him. They want to know what&#039;s in the trailer (camper). Harry tells them to stay out,  but one moves toward it and Rick shoots through the camper window wounding the first thug in his right shoulder. The thug drops the pistol and Harry retrieves it. The three say they were just joking around. Harry looks at the wounded one&#039;s shoulder and says it was just buck shot and not serious. He tells them to beat it.  They drive off.  
  
Later, In the movie, the mother is washing clothes by a creek and a negligee drifts downstream without her noticing. The daughter, Karen,  is supposed to be fishing but is reading a magazine and the garment floats passed her without being seen. Two of the three thugs retrieve it and find Karen. She tries to run but the two drag her off. The scene quick cuts back to the mother, where a shotgun is shown clearly behind her leaning against a rock. She hears her daughter scream, calls her name, picks up the weapon and goes to higher ground in the direction of her daughter, where she sees the two men and shoots. Now, rape is definitely implied, but only a few seconds have actually gone by. So, though we don&#039;t know, it seems the mother shooting prevented the actual act. Harry and Rick go look for the perps. They find them drunk in a farmhouse nearby (that&#039;s owned by the hardware store guy) and shoot them. They hear noise from a back room. It is the daughter of the hardware store owner the thugs had enslaved. She says the thugs murdered her parents. They let the girl come back with them, where Harry expresses remorse to his wife. He felt he was becoming no better than the thugs.  She reassures him he did what he had too to protect them saying she had tried to kill them too (when she shot at them.  
  
The gas scene is before the two above. Harry had bought a lot of supplies at a &quot;dry goods&quot; store then asked if there was a hardware store. The dry goods clerk called for the hardware store owner to come and open his shop. Harry bought a lot of supplies including a rope and some gas cans. He asked if he could buy any guns. The owner showed him some hand guns and showed him how to load one. He told Harry it would be over $300 for all of it and he&#039;d have to wait a day on the guns because &quot;Los Angeles may have been nuked but the boys in Sacramento will still want the paper work&quot;. Harry said he had $220 in cash and would write a check for the rest. When the shopkeep refused, that&#039;s when Harry grabs the pistol. They fight and Rick comes in, gets the gun and holds off the clerk. Later at a gas station, the attendant says &quot;that&#039;ll be ninety dollars.&quot; Harry asks why, the attendant says &quot;because people are payin&#039; it&quot; Harry says &quot;your pump says 34 cents a gallon that&#039;s only ten dollars&quot;. The gas guy tells him he can return all the gas if he doesn&#039;t like it or trade something for it like a nice watch or jewelry. That&#039;s when Harry pull the handgun the second time in the movie. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#039;m not confused. Your memory may have faded.  </p>
<p>The first meeting with the thugs, the family had pulled to the side of the road. The thugs drive past and get out. The father tells his family to get in the camper then he confronts the 3 thugs. They rough him up and take his pistol and point it at him. They want to know what&#039;s in the trailer (camper). Harry tells them to stay out,  but one moves toward it and Rick shoots through the camper window wounding the first thug in his right shoulder. The thug drops the pistol and Harry retrieves it. The three say they were just joking around. Harry looks at the wounded one&#039;s shoulder and says it was just buck shot and not serious. He tells them to beat it.  They drive off.  </p>
<p>Later, In the movie, the mother is washing clothes by a creek and a negligee drifts downstream without her noticing. The daughter, Karen,  is supposed to be fishing but is reading a magazine and the garment floats passed her without being seen. Two of the three thugs retrieve it and find Karen. She tries to run but the two drag her off. The scene quick cuts back to the mother, where a shotgun is shown clearly behind her leaning against a rock. She hears her daughter scream, calls her name, picks up the weapon and goes to higher ground in the direction of her daughter, where she sees the two men and shoots. Now, rape is definitely implied, but only a few seconds have actually gone by. So, though we don&#039;t know, it seems the mother shooting prevented the actual act. Harry and Rick go look for the perps. They find them drunk in a farmhouse nearby (that&#039;s owned by the hardware store guy) and shoot them. They hear noise from a back room. It is the daughter of the hardware store owner the thugs had enslaved. She says the thugs murdered her parents. They let the girl come back with them, where Harry expresses remorse to his wife. He felt he was becoming no better than the thugs.  She reassures him he did what he had too to protect them saying she had tried to kill them too (when she shot at them.  </p>
<p>The gas scene is before the two above. Harry had bought a lot of supplies at a &quot;dry goods&quot; store then asked if there was a hardware store. The dry goods clerk called for the hardware store owner to come and open his shop. Harry bought a lot of supplies including a rope and some gas cans. He asked if he could buy any guns. The owner showed him some hand guns and showed him how to load one. He told Harry it would be over $300 for all of it and he&#039;d have to wait a day on the guns because &quot;Los Angeles may have been nuked but the boys in Sacramento will still want the paper work&quot;. Harry said he had $220 in cash and would write a check for the rest. When the shopkeep refused, that&#039;s when Harry grabs the pistol. They fight and Rick comes in, gets the gun and holds off the clerk. Later at a gas station, the attendant says &quot;that&#039;ll be ninety dollars.&quot; Harry asks why, the attendant says &quot;because people are payin&#039; it&quot; Harry says &quot;your pump says 34 cents a gallon that&#039;s only ten dollars&quot;. The gas guy tells him he can return all the gas if he doesn&#039;t like it or trade something for it like a nice watch or jewelry. That&#039;s when Harry pull the handgun the second time in the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottMcC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottMcC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At that time, you had to rent because movies on VHS tapes were $99--and now we complain when a single Blu-ray Disc is more than $19.95.   
 
And I dare you to look me in the eye and deny the greatness that would be a remake/reboot of &quot;Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein&quot; starring Alfonzo Rachel as Chick Young and Steven Crowder as Wil Grey. 
 
Shoot it in Dallas on HD video and take advantage of experienced non-union crews and the 15% state tax break.  
 
Guaranteed to make money. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At that time, you had to rent because movies on VHS tapes were $99&#8211;and now we complain when a single Blu-ray Disc is more than $19.95.   </p>
<p>And I dare you to look me in the eye and deny the greatness that would be a remake/reboot of &quot;Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein&quot; starring Alfonzo Rachel as Chick Young and Steven Crowder as Wil Grey. </p>
<p>Shoot it in Dallas on HD video and take advantage of experienced non-union crews and the 15% state tax break.  </p>
<p>Guaranteed to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: BevfromNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BevfromNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Jewish Republican in NYC (a rare breed), I tried my hardest to make my other Jewish friends understand that Obama was not going to be any friend to Israel. They didn&#039;t believe me. Why Jews vote consistently with Democrats, especially because of this issue, I will never know. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Jewish Republican in NYC (a rare breed), I tried my hardest to make my other Jewish friends understand that Obama was not going to be any friend to Israel. They didn&#039;t believe me. Why Jews vote consistently with Democrats, especially because of this issue, I will never know.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be confused on the details- the thugs rape his daughter, so Milland and Avalon find them and kill them. I dont recall the Mom using a gun. 
 
Milland goes to buy gas and groceries and the guys tries to charge him a few hundred bucks for a few gallons and a few bags of food. Milland pulls out his gun, tosses the guy a $20 telling him that that is what it would have cost yesterday. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be confused on the details- the thugs rape his daughter, so Milland and Avalon find them and kill them. I dont recall the Mom using a gun. </p>
<p>Milland goes to buy gas and groceries and the guys tries to charge him a few hundred bucks for a few gallons and a few bags of food. Milland pulls out his gun, tosses the guy a $20 telling him that that is what it would have cost yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Johnson</title>
		<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2009/05/24/sunday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-1202798</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MDM - &quot;if you missed any part of today&#039;s film or would like to see it again.....&quot;.   ....come back in a couple of hours or just stay right there b/c we are rewinding it now. hahahaha! (goes to a Bamberger&#039;s commercial) 
 
Lou to Frank Ferguson - Do you still want your exhibits? 
 
FF - Yes. 
 
Lou - Well, here comes one of them now. 
 
OMG - priceless! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MDM &#8211; &quot;if you missed any part of today&#039;s film or would like to see it again&#8230;..&quot;.   &#8230;.come back in a couple of hours or just stay right there b/c we are rewinding it now. hahahaha! (goes to a Bamberger&#039;s commercial) </p>
<p>Lou to Frank Ferguson &#8211; Do you still want your exhibits? </p>
<p>FF &#8211; Yes. </p>
<p>Lou &#8211; Well, here comes one of them now. </p>
<p>OMG &#8211; priceless!</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never seen an A&amp;C film at the movies. I would love to see some of their better films on the big screen with an audience. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen an A&amp;C film at the movies. I would love to see some of their better films on the big screen with an audience.</p>
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		<title>By: USArtguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>USArtguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturday night I saw for the first time the 1962 movie &quot;Panic in the Year Zero&quot;. While not a great movie, I was impressed enough to stay with it. Partly because of the recent discussions here about how Hollywood looks at what it means to be a man.   
  
Soon after an average middle-class family, the Baldwin&#039;s, leave on a camping trip they learn America has come under nuclear attack. The story focuses on the transformation of the family, but primarily the father Harry (Ray Milland) from &quot;mild-mannered&quot; to survivalist. He takes firm control of what little he can to protect his family, even when it means being reduced to robbery at one point. In one scene after he is roughed up by three thugs, his son Rick (played by Frankie Avalon) wounds one of them with buckshot. His wife, Ann (Jean Hagen) admonishes him for letting their son use a gun, saying she doesn&#039;t know him anymore. Later on, she winds up using a gun herself to save their daughter Karen (Mary Mitchell). Even while Harry finds himself going to lengths for his family he would never consider in normal life, he still tries to cling to some sense of civility and justice. Later, when it seems radio reports indicate the war has ended and Rick has been badly hurt, the family is racing through the night to the nearest town with a hospital. They&#039;re stopped by a vehicle where all you can see are headlights. Harry is ordered out of the car. He doesn&#039;t know who it is and thinks it&#039;s more thugs. You finally see the distress begin to take hold of him. It turns out to be a US Army patrol and the family is not just relieved but overjoyed to see them.  
  
I liked how the movie showed a situation becoming so surreal (America&#039;s largest cities having been nuked) it forces an ordinary man to shed the trappings of homogenization and become a warrior. I also liked how his wife is a stabilizing force, bringing him back from the brink and giving him a sense of balance and civility.  
  
I&#039;ve not read the book it was based on and, perusing the web, it sounds as if the movie ending is different (better IMO). Many end of the world genre films of that era had anti-military themes and often showed the limits of a man. This story spends very little time on those themes and even puts the military in a positive light. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday night I saw for the first time the 1962 movie &quot;Panic in the Year Zero&quot;. While not a great movie, I was impressed enough to stay with it. Partly because of the recent discussions here about how Hollywood looks at what it means to be a man.   </p>
<p>Soon after an average middle-class family, the Baldwin&#039;s, leave on a camping trip they learn America has come under nuclear attack. The story focuses on the transformation of the family, but primarily the father Harry (Ray Milland) from &quot;mild-mannered&quot; to survivalist. He takes firm control of what little he can to protect his family, even when it means being reduced to robbery at one point. In one scene after he is roughed up by three thugs, his son Rick (played by Frankie Avalon) wounds one of them with buckshot. His wife, Ann (Jean Hagen) admonishes him for letting their son use a gun, saying she doesn&#039;t know him anymore. Later on, she winds up using a gun herself to save their daughter Karen (Mary Mitchell). Even while Harry finds himself going to lengths for his family he would never consider in normal life, he still tries to cling to some sense of civility and justice. Later, when it seems radio reports indicate the war has ended and Rick has been badly hurt, the family is racing through the night to the nearest town with a hospital. They&#039;re stopped by a vehicle where all you can see are headlights. Harry is ordered out of the car. He doesn&#039;t know who it is and thinks it&#039;s more thugs. You finally see the distress begin to take hold of him. It turns out to be a US Army patrol and the family is not just relieved but overjoyed to see them.  </p>
<p>I liked how the movie showed a situation becoming so surreal (America&#039;s largest cities having been nuked) it forces an ordinary man to shed the trappings of homogenization and become a warrior. I also liked how his wife is a stabilizing force, bringing him back from the brink and giving him a sense of balance and civility.  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve not read the book it was based on and, perusing the web, it sounds as if the movie ending is different (better IMO). Many end of the world genre films of that era had anti-military themes and often showed the limits of a man. This story spends very little time on those themes and even puts the military in a positive light.</p>
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		<title>By: hecowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>hecowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always wonder why no one ever talks of a GE boycott -- no GE toasters, no GE refrigerators or stoves or ovens.   I won&#039;t buy a lightbulb from them or watch the Today Show, but my friend says they&#039;re in everything and you can&#039;t live without them...surely if every conservative in America stopped buying from them we could run them into the ground before the Green Energy Wave hits. 
 
By the way, is anyone else so sick of hearing &quot;green&quot; they recoil at buying anything from anyone touting the green revolution? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always wonder why no one ever talks of a GE boycott &#8212; no GE toasters, no GE refrigerators or stoves or ovens.   I won&#039;t buy a lightbulb from them or watch the Today Show, but my friend says they&#039;re in everything and you can&#039;t live without them&#8230;surely if every conservative in America stopped buying from them we could run them into the ground before the Green Energy Wave hits. </p>
<p>By the way, is anyone else so sick of hearing &quot;green&quot; they recoil at buying anything from anyone touting the green revolution?</p>
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		<title>By: USArtguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>USArtguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 05:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her excuse would be the words of another SNL Hall of Famer, Steve Martin: &quot;well excuuuuuuuuuuse me!&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her excuse would be the words of another SNL Hall of Famer, Steve Martin: &quot;well excuuuuuuuuuuse me!&quot;</p>
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