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No code word needed… Mr. Dyson is a racist. Great Job Andrew.
Any white person that wants to experience real racism and see exactly what the problem is simply needs to walk through the inner cities at night. My job requires me to do it – in Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens – between 9pm and 5am – 5 nights a week – alone – and I'm not a cop and have no gun. You wouldn't believe the treatment whitey receives. You wouldn't believe your eyes.
As a Georgetown alum, I am completely ashamed that man is affiliated with my school…what a disgraceful scumbag Dyson is.
You're a brave man for entering that den of distorted logic. I find it impossible to watch BM.
Is a picture of Maher's ugly mug the best anyone could come up with?
I don't know what's more annoying about this show: filibustering from the liberal guests, snarkiness from Maher, and an audience that acts as if it's watching a gladiator fight. No wonder I hate this show.
It's a no win situation to sit down with smug and arrogant liberals and not expect to walk out feeling like you have to take a shower.
Oh by the way… Since there will never be reductions in salaries for teachers, that 'Merit Pay' that Obama Speaks of is a code word for 'Teacher Raises'.
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I've come to view this and shows like it as a form of anti-discourse. They are even anti-social in a basic and important way.
I always applaud conservatives for going on these shows. Good job, Andrew!
Mr. Dyson is totally racist, and I don't think we'll ever be "post-racial" until we can agree that black against white racism is just as big a problem as the reverse in this country.
You know what is awesome? Getting into race debates with people, when you are mixed breed, or as I like to call myself, a "half-y". It really screws up their standard arguments, such as "not being capable of understanding" racism.
Why do Democrats complain about critics who employ guilt by association against Obama (Wright & Ayers) but employ the exact same tactic against Limbaugh (the chimp cartoon–which lampooned Pelosi vs Obama)? Additionally, Limbaugh is a Steelers fan, a team which has had a black quarternack & currently has a black head coach. There is a cross state rivalry between Pittsburgh & Philadelphia, so, of course he's going to criticize McNabb. Is Dyson trying to say that anybody who roots against a professional sports team that has an African American player is now a racist??!!
Kudos Breitbart for entering this incredibly one sided show.
Is anyone else as sick of the melodic urban inteligentsia rapping style of Mr. Dyson. People hear the patter of his speech and think he must be spinning the truth. And yeah, there's a code word in there somewhere.
Actually the scariest thing is the red armband wearing studio audience. God they're scary. It's the mocking laughter of Mob rule on shows like this and Daily show that frighten me about the future of our political system.
This Dyson guy is a pretentious blabbermouth. Never say in 10 words what you can say in 50. I wish that he and Bill (when not cracking dick jokes) would have given Andrew a fair amount of time to speak.
That audience must have been bussed directly over from a taping of “The Daily Show”. I’ve never seen so many dismissive, closed-minded, and reflexively liberal people in the same place.
The hate that the REV.Wright spewed, still is resonating with America. Americans were under the false impression that black people were trying to dampen down these hateful views. It was quite eye opening to hear Obama in his own words in his books, harbor these same views. This is the 21st Century. In a word, get over it.
Only for those who toe the line.
Dyson is a racist shout-downer. If you can't let your opposition talk that means you know you will lose the debate.
I like when Andrew said it isn't time to double down on stupid, and Maher basically said yes it was.
Also, was Bill serious when he talked about "wealthy old people" giving up their Social Security??? Either he doesn't know what SS is, or he thinks it is okay for the government to steal people's money.
Dyson is simply a wind up toy. He is allowed to spout his assertion that folks are talking in "code." Tell me, how does one refute that you are not speaking in code? How does one refute that the assertion that having a large number of black men in jail is somehow caused by my rascism.
The arguments he espoused are simply silly and yet, the audience is cheering him on. Wow, that was simply pathetic.
And yes, Clarence Thomas is allowed to be villified because he won't go along with the party line. This is an example of intellectual honesty? Man, this Dyson should be retired.
The good news is that Maher is slightly smarter than my 'weak' testicle. The bad news is that he's much smaller.
I only watched the first clip, don't need any more aggravation. The difference between inner city schools and suburban schools is parents, who will not accept crap teachers and crap schools.
I enjoyed the shock and confusion on Maher's sour-puss when Breitbart accurately nails him as a 'bully' (which of course BM, Dyson et ilk are)!
'Bully', 'cruel', 'intolerant', 'insensitive', etc. are toxic to the smug, closed-minded Leftists' "heads-I-win-tails-you-lose" totalitarianism.
Turnabout is fair-play.
So, hit 'em with it in everyday practice, their confused/defensive expressions are a joy to behold.
Ooh Rah!
Good job Andrew!
"Members of the cult of tolerance [e.g., Dyson] defend and justify their position with emotional, as opposed to rational, arguments." — Larrey Anderson, 3/14/09
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Or crap from their kids. The most important part.
AMEN!
Great job Andrew! My sympathies for having to sit between two ignorant liberals who couldn't wait to call Rush and the rest of us who didn't vote for this obamanation racist. They're pathetic men who show their hatred at every turn!
Yep!
“When the law’s on your side, pound the law. When the truth’s on your side, pound the truth. When neither’s on your side, pound the table.”
Congratulation Andrew for doing what almost no one on the right seems to do… simply not agreeing with the premise of the questions being posed.
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Andrew, I salute you for trying to get a word in edgewise. What a loud mouth egotistical arrogant ass Dyson is! He managed to out do Maher which is saying a lot. And, calling Rush a racist? That comes form those who suck up the left media but don't listen to Rush.
In any case Andrew, I thank you,
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The very first thing that come to my mind was exactly that!!! Wind him up, he will spew large terms, accuse everyone of using racist code words, and then try to pander to Maher. The audience cheers him on because he is saying just what they want to hear, and perhaps it could be, well, because most of them aren't very bright. I will give Andrew his due, I would have leapt over the table and strangled Maher. Of course, I have wanted to do that for years, so it may just be a long held view for me. I'm just thankful the clip went off before Sarah Silverman came on.
I second that AMEN! It doesn't have anything to do with Inner city versus Suburban. It doesn't have anything to do with how much money is spent per child. It has everything to do with the committment of parents and/or students to their own education. LIBRARIES ARE FREE!! If someone wants to learn there is nothing that can stop them learning.
This Dyson character tries to cloak the hollowness of his message with big words and fast talk, and the braindead Real Time audience just eats it up clapping not knowing what the hell he just said other than it 'sounded good'. And BREITBART, great move reminding Bill (and more especially his brainwashed audience) about Rush and crew coming to Maher's defense back in 2001. I liked to see Bill stumble a bit on that point.
First, please, pardon my english.
The only way to win those kind of debates – and using the word debate is so off in this case – is for you to be cooler than the others. Breitbart did ok, but couldn't really prove anything, because those debates are not about proving things, they are about making people fell good about themselves. So arguments don't really help. Liberals must bem laugh at, not reasoning with.
Great job, Andrew. I am surprised you could get a word in edgewise. Please the next time you have to defend Bush on fetal stem cell research, please stress that Bush did not ban research. He only banned federal funds for research. Private industry was free to research at will. and every rich Hollywood star including Nancy Reagan were free to give their private funds for the same.
Man Andrew and Ari Fleischer deserve some kind of award for standing up to these buffoons – as I am typing this Andrew is saying that Rush was no greater defender of Clarance Thomas – and the crowd laughs. And I notice every time Andrew is getting to a point one of these idiots interrupt. Andrew should interupt Dyson as Dyson interrupts Andrew, but Andrew has manners…
How do I create an account?
Andrew, your retort to the "rush is rascists" comment shoudl have been that you'd heard more racists and homophoboic comments come out of Maher's mouth in the last week than you've ever heard from RL. Did I hear correctly Maher used the term "homo" minutes before turning out the false outrage at Rush? Does not Maher have a recent joke that goes "Obama is putting the bowling alley in the WH to good use. His first game he bowled a 37, which should put to rest the comments that he's not black enough".
I would have confronted Maher on that right there in front of Dyson and demanded that either the entire world gets a pass to make those kinds of jokes, or Maher should clean up his own hate speech.
Reminds me of the dearly departed Tony Snow. He once squared off in that liberal hornet's den, the soul voice of reason, and left the audience in a hushed silence and utterly silenced Maher.
You are greatly missed, Tony!
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Watching lefty pseudo intellectuals think they're debating is frightening. Andrew, I can't believe you legitimized this blind fraternity with your good reputation. What next, a debate at DailyKos with a Code Pink audience?
You have to pay membership fees. Give me your email and I'll tell you where to send the money.
Yes, I agree with you 100%. This is not about really debating, but about people feeling good about themselves for being in the side they think is the right one. I see as a big waste of time. Liberals as vicious, the moment you decide to debate with them, you put them in the same league as you: that's a mistake.
They have no idea how to debate. None of them do. Their whole line of what they call logic is based on irrationality and emotional hooha. Hence Dyson's mentally deranged behavior. He knows he won't win. He knows he isn't right. Its not about being right, its about winning. Aristotle would pound him for using p-poor debate tactics however this is the only way to win an arguement for them. You see it on college campus', on the floor of the US House. Just listen to that paragon of tolerance Charlie Rangel once. When you know you can't win and you know your audience has never had an inclination to educate itself you go for the last tactics a person would in a debate, appeals to pity, ad hominem, and arguing in a circle, begging the question. Leftists are all professionals at all of those lame, fallacious arguements.
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Schools? I must say I was pleased to see that wank Bill Maher say the teachers unions need to get destroyed. The left is starting to accept the conservative position on education, finally. After decades of shoveling more and more money into failing school systems, we are finally demanding accountability from the education industry.
Also, thanks for pointing out that stem cell research was banned under Clinton, and that Bush relaxed some of the restrictions. Liberals are wholly unaware of that fact.
No problem, I'll use my executive power as Big Hollywood's Director of Membership Services to give you a special price.
Ooooh! Liberals are "viscious!"
Grow up, Carlos. Or at least grow a pair.
I forgot to mention – something that never ceases to amaze me – Dyson's interrupting Andrew and saying "I'm articulate" It always seemed to me wiser letting the world decide whether you are "smart" or "articulate" or whatever the proclamation is –
But then I am reminded of the saying that "Conceit is God's gift to little people".
Are you referring to Mark Twain's admonition to never argue with a fool – it makes the public wonder who the fool is – or better words to that effect which I cannot remember at the moment…
Well, I would have loved to have seen what Christopher Hitchens did in that viper's den
I had to turn it off. Andrew was landing rights and lefts and uppercuts while Maher quipped (and ha ha ha, tee hee) and Dyson went off into la la land. I thought Farrahkhan was going to come down any minute in the MotherShip and start dividing everything by 9.
Andrew made a wonderful point–If people like Dyson are going to deconstruct/reconstruct every thought a person has then how in the hell is that person going to have a conversation with him? It'd be like one person talking about shopping at Victoria's Secret and the other what kind of pesticide to use on a rice field in sw China.
Maher & Dyson were total embarrassments.
Was there an argument there?
But I'm guessing that you are talking about the generalization. Well, of course, they will always be wrong and right at the same time. The ideia is that, on these kind of shows, liberals are not there to debate you, but to humiliate you. And that is viscious in my book.
Calling people racist. That's what Liberals mean by having a "conversation" on racism.
Yes. I always wonder how those shows would be without the audience to laught in each clue. I think they wouldn't be as much effective as they seem; that says something dosen't it?
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He flipped them off. Many times.
Does that guy Dyson ever shut up? For Pete's sake Andrew – next time you are on ask if you can bring some duct tape so you can get a word in edgewise. Sheesh – that's why I don't watch shows like this. It's just too frustrating.
Greg Gutfeld does a great job on Redeye letting everyone have a say without anyone talking over them – it does get excited from time to time, and people do it accidentally but everyone gets a turn.
How can anyone watch this stuff without getting angry?
Getting lectured about listening and engaging people by someone who absolutely refuses to and out and out *says* he's not responding to *you* but to you in the general. GaH! I'd get violent.
If I were on the show, at the moment that University-Guy – sorry, don't recall his name -, said that some people live in a bubble I would only laugh and say that thanks to him now I can see the matrix
Yeah, and then label Andrew's comment as "anti-intellectual"
Unregulated science is just as bad as unregulated religion? WHAT????
>>Nobody's saying windmills are going to fuel cars. They're to power homes."
Such literalism from these "nuanced" libturds. Breitbart was joking. But you can't goof on a Liberal! That must not be allowed to stand!
Science should certainly not be unchecked – does Maher think that we should conduct any kind of scientific experiment with no regard to respect for human life or ethics?
I would love to see a tabulation of the "time of possession" within the discussion.
Oh s#!t, I shouldn't have read that with a mouth full of Coke! I had to drag out the Windex!
What I had a hard time understanding about that is what does the word unregulated means?
Like we should have some to regulate science? How would that work? Because, if science is the action of finding out what we don't know, how can we regulate something we don't know yet?
Religion has being the most regulated thing ever. People have being attacking it from tha inside (orthodox x catholics x protestants) and from the outside (militant atheists), since it has existed.
So, in short, I can't really understand what he meant with that.
I agree. I wanted to smack him. It reminded me of my sister-in-law's frequent resort to the cop-out, "I'd love to debate with you on this, but I won't engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent" whenever her right-minded older brother (my husband) called her on the carpet for spewing liberal garbage as though it were a a prophecy from on high. She couldn't hack a point-counterpoint argument, so she invariably resorted to insulting her opponent. For some reason, Dyson's "I'm articulate," jab reminded me of her pathological need to attack the intelligence or wit of her opponent rather than actually listen to the point he's trying to make. It was pathetic and it reflected badly on him.
And Maher's sophomoric pat on the back for Dyson's diarrhea of the mouth was pathetic–but not surprising. I don't think it had so much to do with the content of Dyson's little "I'm articulate" sermon as it did with the insult leveled at Andrew. You could see the smile on Dyson's face (though he looked down as though to hide it) when Maher praised him.
Hahahahaha…I have that efect on some people
"… does Maher think…" That's a rethorical question, right? ahahahah
Ditto, Bill and Brisco! It was the worst possible thing for him to say, IMO. I cannot imagine any of the very intelligent, well-educated black people I know ever uttering something so disgusting. Of course, they have class. And no "code words!" People who live in 3/4 of a mil or more house don't use code words about white people, why should they?
Wouldn't surprise me if he does. The end justifies the means after all.
As a black dude, I really want to go upside Eric Dyson's head right now. Everything's a coded word of white supremacy. BLAH!
This is what Liberals have to do to make it a fair fight; Andrew against another guest, the audience, and the host.
That was pathetic. All three videos was a sad show with Mr. Breitbart being shouted out of anything he was trying to say or interrupted by the turd host. The other man had more Uninterrupted time throughout with Mr. Breitbart barely saying a thing.
Of course he couldn't say much because the other man spoke in constant double speak, but I wish he'd at least shout him down for his gibberish as he was constantly being done himself. Rush is called a racists with the bobble-head nodding enthusiastically other guy and the mob claps ensue. Mr. Breitbart tried to defend to cries of the mob.
If only I had an ability to reach into the tv and slap both the host and the other guy whenever they steer into the stupid -which happened in all three vids- I'd have less headaches when watching this tripe.
Lastly, all thruout. Mr. Breitbart looked put off and had a scour appearance. He looked like he was stewing with those furrowed brows and I never saw him looking one way or the other.. just slouched in the chair and glaring straight forward for the most part. The other guy had canned gibberish that I have no doubt been used in other places while Mr. Breitbart stuttered a bit and agreed too damn often to the other guy and I had no doubt assumed to countinued but was rolled over by the rapid fire other guy with all his coded words.
Cheers to the lone dude who clapped to Mr. Breitbart once.
Liberals throw the title "racist" to anyone they want to shutdown. Labeling someone a racist, however, does not mean that a person's arguement is faulty. It is just a cowardly way to end a discussion.
Yes, and remember, Colin Powell was the archetype of evil according to the Democrats—that is, until he endorsed Obama.
That was a great line by Andrew
And it's not that black people can't be individuals with individual opinions but it's well known that… what did he say at the beginning?… that some black people can… I don't remember how he explained it… they can have the words of white racists and spout the ideas contrary to… I don't want to have to go back and watch the first section to figure it out.
In short… those black people who do not believe the right things are, indeed, non-black race traitors. (Heck, maybe it would be worth going back and transcribing it after all.)
And in the end "code words" is the code word for "I think this person is a racist because I don't like him."
I've almost convinced myself that Bill Maher is a rational actor in comparison, which is really saying something, but I know that the "code word" thing is absolutely where racial studies are at in Universities just now, and not some weird deviation by this Tyson fellow. Even in the absence of code words, racism is often defined by the professionals in the field by whether or not a person is a member of the oppressor race or the oppressed race. No idea if Tyson would defend that but I've sure heard it. In that case, denying racism only proves it. It's a accusation that absolutely can not be denied. There is no way to do so, not ever.
Hey Blast, this is a serious suggestion. What if you were to wear a hidden mini-video camera and recorder and get tape on the things you witness? this could actually alter the racial debate in this country. Sorta like when Geraldo made his career with the Willowbrook expose. Can you imagine the drive-by media, Sharpton, Spike Lee, Alton Maddox et. al. trying to explain away something like that? And imagine the kind of spot you put President Hopeychange on. I live in the 'burbs but used to own a "spy shop" in Queens. During the Dinkins years. Probably saw some of the same type things you allude to. Blast, I'm tellin' you, this could be big. Do what you gotta do.
Which Cracker Jack box has the secret decoder ring for all these code words. It seems to be a great way to argue any point when you lack any facts to back them up. Could we please print out what all the code words are so that Conservatives can argue their points with out using any of them. Then perhaps a real debate can take place and not one that stalls do to unknown cryptic meanings.
The introduction of Andrew was deplorable in relation to the Dyson introduction. Could that be one of those underlying meanings that Dyson was talking about. Maher has to point out to the audience who they should clap for and who they shouldn't.
Dyson's diatribe was irritating to listen to, to say the least. "Let me finish," how many times did he ask to be allowed to finish his long rant and Andrew cordially obliged. When Andrew, however, was trying to make a point it was perfectly acceptable to cut him off.
This Dyson guy is a pretentious blabbermouth. Never say in 10 words what you can say in 50. I wish that he and Bill (when not cracking dick jokes) would have given Andrew a fair amount of time to speak.
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It was interesting to hear the reasoning behind the dislike of teachers unions. I'm only wondering why they didn't expand that into college professors as well. I find the attack on the schools unions and teachers half hearted. A majority of school teachers indoctrinate children into the lefts agenda.
When Andrew made the comment about college professors and all of their double talk I had to laugh as soon as Dyson proved to be the perfect example of what he was talking about.
My hat goes off to the two conservatives that were able to sneak into the audience.
I tell ya, we white devils need to get some new code words.
What is amazing is the left cannot even fathom victory in Iraq. I would have asked them what Iraq would have to look like in order to qualify as victory? Unfortunately we can't just enter in a cheat code into a Play Station control pad and just put us in God mode. The surge worked when they all said it wouldn't. I was against going into Iraq, but when AQ turned Iraq into ground zero in the war on terror I got behind the effort.
Old Andrew's not exactly Bill Buckley, Jr., is he?
"…for free…" Oh my God, someone was just laughing at me. Hahahhaha….I'm a dumbass
Yes, but they probably just put that guy into weirdoo zone. I don't belive someone went home thinking that maybe Bush isn't as bad as some people say.
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I'm going to be hypocritical here for a minute because it get's thrown into arguments far to often but I think it relates, so here it is Hitler.
Wasn't science completely unregulated under the Nazi regime. We've heard the horror stories about some of the things done to humans in the name of science.
Many atheist look to science as their form of worship. Global warming would be the perfect example of this new scientific religion. People are coming up with science experiments that will drastically effect our planet. The main thing I learned in college is how little we actually know. Individuals trying to change our environment with no idea of all the unintended consequences is frightening to me.
Which is exactly why liberals say that increasing gun freedoms would increase gun crime… it seems right in their gut, even though all statistics and real world scenarios show otherwise.
What I took away from his black people can be spouting white is right racist jargon to mean, Uncle Toms.
Clarence Thomas, Bill Cosby, Michael Steele, Condoleezza Rice. They were in essence white individuals in their core that were being racist towards black people. It's not that they are free individuals with their own ability to think for themselves no it's that they are racist. Yet again the perfect example of trying to diminish ones beliefs or argument by inserting racist into the equation. Talk about code words.
Perhaps not but at least they got a dose of what they on the left have been doing on a regular basis. He fought fire with fire. It was great to see the reaction of Maher and the audience. Strange to think that they found it distasteful when they employee it regularly.
I'm leaning toward both.
Everyone today is correct and right. But, just like negative advertising works, these evil idiots like Dyson who make no sense and just spew hatred, make an impact. Okay, so they impact impacted little minds, but that is their base. Who are we to think all us conservatives are brilliant people? Surely we have some blasting lying loons ourselves who could sway by the same kind of Dysons blather, too.
Please, where are our Harold Ickes, snake face Carville,s Rahms, Lenny Davises (not the best but persistent as hell)? We take the high road and get creamed. We need attack dogs IN the party, not just Rush who is carrying our water and is using actual facts, which really slow us down. We are taking the high road to dishwater oblivian. The American public is so dumb (conservative,too) they actually like factless smackdowns. We have no swords to unsheath.
Colin Powell was never the archetype of evil. He did however knowingly lie to the United Nations about non-existent weapons of mass destruction, thus paving the way for W to invade Iraq. He squandered his credibility and he helped cause untold damage to the United States.
"Strange to think that they found it distasteful when they employee it regularly"
Yes, it's. But not so strange when you think that is all about feeling good. That is the big problem; things are not about truths anymore, only about feeling special. In the end, is the culture of celebs.
What they need is a host who controls the conversation and doesn't allow the combatants to talk over each other. But then… that's not good television.
Yes, it was hilarious watching Dyson make logically consisten arguments based on facts and philosophy. And how clever it was of Breitbart to respond that he was too stupid to understand what he was taught in college! Now that's a Republican!
You know, when I was younger (1970s-1980s), I used to have several black friends and no one ever thought much about race. It seemed to us that the whole issue was an issue from the 1960s and before and would just disappear. But starting around 1988, the whole thing changed. Today, race has become a poisonous topic that people just won't discuss — especially among college educated people. It's amazing to me how much progress vanished in such a short period of time.
Yes, Dyson sure is evil. Just think of all those innocent civilllians he killed when he invaded their country. Oh, no, wait, that wasn't him. Okay, think of all the people he tortured just in case they might be terrorists. Wait, also not him. Surely then he must have had the entire regulatory system of the USA turn a blind eye when his rich friends looted the world's economies. No. that doesn't sound right. Oh yeah, he was able to make coherent points on a comedy talk show when your guy was not. Of course he's evil. Glad you guys are so clear on the concept!
Denise, it's exactly what you wrote that I've been trying to say. It all became a show, where truth is something that people associate with feeling special. I think the throw of people to lions still has a audience after all.
Hey, you signed up. Good for you. Where are you from in Brazil?
I found Dyson's body language disturbing. He was leaning into and putting his hands on Andrew as he was continually talking over him. Everything about Dyson's presentation showed he was in attack mode, and certainly not interested in a true discussion or exchange of ideas.
disclaimer: no code words were intentionally used in this post
The first thing was "dehumanization" of the targets. If someone was "not human" in the Reich's eyes, abhorrent scientific conduct was permissible Zo had it right; if someone or something isn't identity-labeled as "human", experimentation, and the next, new, now thing, (stem-cell research, cloning, and the ever popular abortion) becomes permissible and sanctioned.
You have the right about the "Global Warming" argument. There is change; there has always been change. But manmade or natural, consistent or temporary, even if the equipment 100+ years ago was accurate enough to support the data? Give me a break.
I'm from a town very south, called Porto Alegre.
Some information about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porto_Alegre.
Wow. The world according to the most closed minded hateful people in the world, is the Bill Maher show.
No facts, just bomb throwing, conjecture, and ridicule. Freedom does grow some mold sometimes.
Are we all nuts? Do you really think those moronic Dysons, Mahers, etc. really believe all they are saying? It's a show to play to the reality show watchers who love the shouting. Whoever shouts the most impresses the peasants, of which we also have some. We are not so different from the middle ages beheadings turnouts. These liberal screamers go to the bar after work and laugh about how the dumb public bought their meaness, stupidity, etc. and then go home and are different people. Even logical, nice people who just do a job of a nitwit mean guy to get the attention and ratings. Cripe, when I heard Tucker Carlson had drinks with Harold Ickes after work I felt like a real sucker. But it works and we should stop being so righteous and get it that that is politics. Play the game or take your ball and go home.
"Wasn't science completely unregulated under the Nazi regime. We've heard the horror stories about some of the things done to humans in the name of science."
I think you are quite right.
The only thing I don't see is that how the regulation that science needs can be applied to religion. For they way I see it, Dyson was just trying to fit in with that sentence. Another prove of the value of his opinion; in case I'm right of course.
No he's not Alvin, because God broke the mold. BB was one of a kind, and he's all ours. But what was/is Dyson? A realization of MLK's dream deferred? Andrew, much man love, Bro, bravo! Doug TenNaple succinctly identified just what a lopsided viper’s nest Andrew volunteered for. Back in the day, when Maher actually invited conservatives for a civil discourse as a staple of entertainment – a time which Andrew rightly reminded shrill Bill he had Rush's vocal support denouncing Maher’s abrupt cancellation (which Maher chose neither to admit or deny even though Maher WROTE BACK A THANK YOU AT THE TIME!), Andrew would have been given a chance to speak before the feral deconstruction commenced.
One of the reasons I always like Michael Crighton's book "Jurassic Park" was because he painted a really vivid portrayal of the hubris of science without ethics. He repeatedly asked the question Just because we can do something, does it mean we should? Then he took a further step by illustrating the law of unintended consequences and how nature will find a way to outwit science every time.
I like the fact that he didn't even look at the crowd when he was giving them the finger.
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But that was when Maher was more libertarian than a walking talking spokesman for Bush Derangement. This new incarnation is Real Time in the liberal fascist American blue state. Thus a race hustler tenured Prof gets free reign to go off singy-songy in jargonish liberal-ease and the audience gets red meat – a thoughtful conservative served up raw – hog-tied via a verbal talk over. Andrew gave a brilliant retort to the Dyson set up – 'code word' is overt liberal cant. As in, we WONT talk, discuss, compromise or bi-partisan co-operate – on anything. It's dictatorial not rhetorical; the excuse being you’ all is evil, therefore no discussion can possibly take place. Andrew deserves our eternal gratitude for embodying the principle espoused when founding BH; fully engage – in whatever venue presents itself.
Because the "tolerant" and supposed "color blind", liberal audience members are the real racists here. They see a black man up there on stage who knows how to string a few big words together (no matter how illogical and nonsensical) who can speak them really, really fast and they credit him with being really, really smart. It's just patronizing to the hilt. As Maher said himself, not realizing the irony, "…Thats some motherf–kin' articulation!"
Neat. Welcome. A friend of mine lived in Bella Horizonte for a couple years. I never made it down to see him, but he raved about Brazil.
Can you say "affirmative action" and "tenure" ?
I'm sick of arguments like this. They are so general that in the end the only thing that you are saying is that someone is bad and the other is good.
But let's go.
"Just think of all those innocent civilllians he killed when he invaded their country"
Well, their country is kind of a stretch, since it was Saddam's country. And some of the inocent got killed and some are now free. The real point is that only the Iraquians can say for sure if the war was right or wrong, and even them will have to wait some time to see where their country – I think democracy makes the expression better now – ends up.
"Surely then he must have had the entire regulatory system of the USA turn a blind eye when his rich friends looted the world's economies."
Get your facts straight. Even I now that the problem started much before Bush.
"Of course he's evil"
I don't think anyone said evil. Just said that his ideias were not very good ones. But as you are so bright, you could try to make me understand some of them, don't you?
God that was fun!
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Thanks. Here is a good place to live if you don't mind paying a total of 4 months workpay to the goverment
If you can, come to one of the Rio de Janeiro carnivals. I promise that it's something you'll never forget.
So for you guys Tax Freedom Day comes in April. For some of us, we don't get past that percentage until about June.
"How does one refute that the assertion that having a large number of black men in jail is somehow caused by my racism."
Well, I can't speak for other countries, but the jails in Holland (where I resided for 31 years) are ALSO "disproportionately" filled with black men and Arabs- and Holland happens to be one of the MOST liberal and NON-racist countries on the planet! The Netherlands was at the very forefront of combating apartheid in South Africa, and was also the first country on earth to "recognize" that corrupt terrorist scumbag Yassar Arafat, and even gave his band of murderous thugs an official "mission" (almost an embassy) in The Hague.
French prisons are ALSO "disproportionately" filled with Arabs (actually "flooded with them" would be a more accurate description!), and this despite the fact that the French have a long (shameful) history of toadying up to Arabs and bad-mouthing Jews (excuse me- "criminal Zionists").
Anecdotal evidence supports the fact that this very same "disproportionality" exists in prisons in the U.K., Germany, Sweden, Denmark, and Belgium- NONE of which could be considered "racist" countries by any stretch of the imagination.
I'd like to hear that pretentious racist scumbag Dyson explain THAT fact (in 100,000 words or less)…!
Actually, what he said was "rich, ugly, white people." Twit.
Amen John…Tony was one of a kind. I watched him on Fox, listened to him on the radio, and was thrilled when he accepted GW's press secretary position. He was always the epitome of what a true gentleman is.
You're right about that it's not good television. Good television seems to be an echo chamber of sorts.
I'm reminded of watching 24 when Bauer was stopped before he could torture this guy to get important life saving information. I don't know if there has been much of an uproar about this on the streets yet but it sure made me laugh when the Senator opposed to it suddenly wound up effected by the lack of it.
I'd imagine many liberals saw the error in this approach, they must have or at least I hope they did.
How can we get Dennis Miller or Ann Coulter on HBO doing a show exactly like Mahers? With and audience packed with conservative supporters. Never mind it wouldn't make for good TV since it goes against the whole feel good society mentality. I'll just have to watch and listen to those two on my own and hope that some liberals will listen to them as well so they can come in from out of the status quo.
Once Politically Incorrect has become Politically Lock-Stepped.
Really? I honestly can belive that? How that happened?
The reason I ask is because here for more than 30 years the ideia of lowering taxes just disappeared from the collective mind. I have never seen any politician talk about it. They only fight to see how they will spend it. At least over there you have some maistream people that present a very good case for the taxs cut. Not here, not here
"Progress" didn't vanish. Black leaders simply figured out that pulling the race card again was the best possible way to perpetuate the lie of "victimhood". And after all, who wants to argue with, insult or offend a poor "victim"?
They are not code words, they are gotchya words.
I couldn't agree more. It's like the powerbase discovered race baiting was lucrative industry and interrelations went down the tubes. IMO, Greed is the real dynamic here. I could only watch the first part too. I've learn that I'm much calmer if I don't subject myself to the horse manure of the loons. Maher is an self important a$$hat.
I continue to be at a loss to understand or explain why any conservative would go on this show and give Maher the time of day. Why bother? You know you will be outnumbered on the panel. As for the audience, they are innately incapable of thinking for themselves, instead whooping and hollering at anything that their master (Maher) says. If as a conservative you mention something that does not conform with the b.s. hard wired into the brains (LOL) of the studio audience, you will get booed or laughed at. Again, why bother? Just leave Maher and his unmerry band of hate-filled guests and audience members to talk to themselves. Trust me when I say that no conservative out here is watching that crap, so no conservative ought bother going on the show anymore.
I would have to agree the underlying disdain by not even acknowledging them while doing so was pretty funny.
Knowingly lie — I love how liberals are mind readers.
Untold damage — yawn. What a drama queen.
I wouldn't watch one second of that arrogant douchebag Maher if my life depended on it. Of course, he has a show on HBO because they're a bunch of godless leftists too. Whew…there, that feels better.
Fantastic. You just proved his point, Eddie Unprovoked ad hominem attacks on his age and his masculinity. How deliciously vicious of you.
Great points I wish I had thought of them initially so I wouldn't have had to rely on the ultimate example of all things evil.
You said it, Atticus. Best press secretary evah.
speaking of which, how about that new guy, Gibbs? Makes McLellan look like a pro.
Yeah, I know. I often want to pull an Elvis and shoot the TV.
Dyson reminds me of my sociology prof.
I just confronted him last tuesday over his attacks on capitalism and rich people in class.
Then on Thursday I had to correct him when he used the Duke Lacrosse Case as an example of a gang rape by "rich whites" against a minority; he didn't know they were found innocent.
If there is one thing university teaches us, white American males are the root of all evil (oh, and being Jewish isn't good). If that is you, then you should be ashamed; if that is not you, they try to make you bitter and defensive..
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Libs hate Iraq, but want to rush into Darfur. I wish someone would ask them what the difference is between the two.
Also, what does the number of blacks in prison compared to whites have to do? Are police not arresting enough white folks and putting them in prison? Dyson kept complaining about crime ridden housing, but if police and politicians try to clean up the area aren't they going to put more black people in prison.
You can't have it both ways.
Good work, Andrew. The other guy (is that a code word?) clearly filibusters and talks in long, convoluted diatribes. I think his constant references to "code words" are actually "code words" meant to disguise his own prejudices….
I agree about the powerbase. I think the big public moment was Willey Horton. As you may recall, that was brought up by Al Gore during the primary. But after Bush ran a Horton ad, the entire left turned on the "Bush is a racist" recording and they haven't stopped since because they found it useful.
Other contributing factors to the worsening tensions include: (1) the creation of "African American Studies" programs, which promote crazy ideas of separatism and white guilt, (2) the creation, through gerrymandering, of nearly entirely black Congressional districts, (3) fringe journalists who started spreading ideas like the CIA introducing crack or AIDS into the black community, and (4) the rise of a certain religion in the prisons and housing projects.
Don't blame your TV… your TV loves you! It gives so much and asks for so little…
I would have to agree with that I've worked with an artists palate of colors. We all got along, we're all very similar in our hopes and dreams. We cried when our friends died we laughed at all manner of inappropriateness, we joked about everything including race and we partied like rock stars with out a single "code word" getting in the way. I'm dumbfounded by this racism notion. "We" made up of 90% of all ethnicity's world wide got along just fine on a whole. Were there ups and downs sure when isn't there.
Racism in the US is the most watered down version you'll find anywhere on the planet. Ask the poor El Salvadoran trying to make it through Mexico on his way to the US. Ask a Moroccan how well they are treated by Spaniards. Ask an Egyptian how well they are treated based on the ruling government at the time.
The idea of racism is kept alive because it makes money for those that keep it alive. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton blackmail companies into paying them money as "diversity experts." These two are employed by many of the corporations in America.
The movie Crash best explains racism in America. Everyone is it's not black and white.
Carlos, you don't know the half of it. When you take out all the funny math the government uses (like not counting payroll tax as tax), I paid 43.8% of my income last year to the state and federal governments (not counting sales tax –6.5%). And I'm sure others paid more.
I'm especially proud of the Resident Evil reference. ;-P
And that, "just because we can do something, doesn't mean we should" is called morality — a very dirty word to guys like Maher.
prejudices…and stupidity.
I think "code words" are actually "code words" meant to disguise the fact that he doesn't KNOW the words.
And if I were Andrew, the term "Black Studies Intelligencia" would have been code for "you ignorant, dishonest, racist, affirmative-actioned MORONS!" ;- )
That reference was a great piece of levity in the scary subject of mad science.
I've got to give you props Andrew for attempting to fight the good fight and sticking it through all the way to the end. I know I wouldn't have made it. The second that Maher made a joke about the pastor getting killed, I would have said something to the effect of, "Hold on a second, let me get this straight. A man has been killed in cold blood, seemingly at random, and that's funny to you? Because he's a pastor it's OK to make a joke, is it? Never mind the family that now has to try and pick up the pieces of their shattered lives and continue without a husband and father. Or the members of the congretation that it happened in front of. Families and little children. Let's just have a good laugh at their expense. You people are sick monsters and I won't have anything more to do with this discussion." Then I would have ripped my mic off and stormed away. But that's just me.
Which logically consistent argument was that? That black conservatives aren't legitimately black? That "black" is a political philosophy rather than a race?
If Darfur bordered Israel and it's leader got his kicks from lobbing Scuds over the fence, the Libs would be incensed over the notion of rushing in. There's your difference right there.
Dyson thinks he's well spoken?!?! ROFLMAO!
The mob loves a good table pounding. Goes for both sides though
This is ridiculous! You can't win with people like Dyson, the racist lable is a cop out to argue the real issues that concern people who are critical of President Obama.
Agreed… every time conservatives say we want a smaller government all they counter with is "George Bush expanded government"
Yeah, that's why W had a 24% approval rating when he left… you don't get that low without pissing off the conservatives.
Got no cable, on dial-up, not seeing the video. Googling "dyson wikipedia" didn't work, had to add "maher" to find Dyson's listing.
I didn't miss anything important.
It's been a long time since I watched the show, so I can't remember, but…
Do you ever actually see the audience? I was kind of under the impression that there was simply an applause track that was triggered every time Maher said "Bush".
This is a great Idea Dom… I can't believe I never thought of it… I'm in… it will take me a bit of time to be able to get the gear I'll need, but lemme tell you, if I'm gonna walk those streets in fear of getting shanked, I might as well convert those walks into something that may help the discussion. After 30 days of footage we'll have enough footage to blow peoples minds – especially when it warms up. Nothing increases the danger factor more than warm weather.
As a spy guy any suggestions you may have for equipment will be considered. I have no problem wearing a headset and frankly the camera doesn't have to be that hidden provided it can be strapped on somewhere on my body – or helmet. In other words it can't be a shoulder held thing, but doesn't need to be a button camera. Know what I mean?
Hey, anyone think there is a correlation between Mr. Dysons 'brothers' representing a disproportionate number of prison inmates and the number of dominoes pizza places that are behind bullet proof glass in his 'brothers' neighborhoods?
I've always had a curiosity to see Manaus – always pictured it as a ghost down from the heyday in the 1920s but thanks to the Internet learn it is quite alive with 2 million people. Oh well. Another misconception.
You guys sure produce some F1 champions.
This is what drives me the most insane about professors ideology. The "white" man is bad, a curse upon this nation. These same professors didn't take any sort of history classes apparently. The "white" man / Europeans set up this society. They did so at great peril. Our forefathers transited the Atlantic which at that time was not a safe thing to undertake. The "white" man set up a society based on essential liberties that only some had ever written about or dared to believe possible. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Unalienable rights that all men are created equal. The great "white" devil performed the impossible idea of freedom for all into a reality.
Yes, what about the slaves? If there had not been the slave trade the Zulu tribe would have kept or killed their country men with out thought. They would have been slaves in Africa instead of the US.
What about the Native Americans? Well contrary to popular belief native Americans were not peace loving earth friendly individuals. Native Americans fought battles against one another constantly and took….wait for it…slaves. Oh sweet irony of injustices Native Americans took slaves as their conquest of other tribes.
If you can name another society that didn't take it's land by force I would love to hear about it.
Professors bemoan the actions of the great "white" devil but with out him/them we would not even be having this conversation.
Dyson couldn't come out and say anything against the teacher's union! He tries to say that Bill is right about the union but then goes on with excuse after excuse for the union. That is why you can't debate liberals, they lie, set up strawmen, and move the goal line to avoid the trouncing they know they will receive. Bill's continued attacks on W are also indicative of a loser of a little man whose movie career was a disgrace.
Dyson's a real piece of work. The trouble with inner city schools isn't the negative vibes the children receive from their teachers, or the money the schools receive. It is their family situation — more likely than not they come from a one-parent home, something that decades of liberal policies have encouraged.
Maher's a worm. A worm with a tv show, but a worm nonetheless. I can't even watch the clips posted here. Just seeing Maher's face gives me nightmares.
Liberals are waiting to be devoured by some other nation or religious notion. It's almost masochistic in nature. They don't want what's better for everyone else they want what some other individual from some other nation thinks is better for them. So they don't have to think anymore. They have fallen so far out of the realm of thought that they need another nation to establish their thought for them.
Liberals want America to fail on a whole so they can for a split second tout their long held convoluted conjecture. Their self fulfilling prophecy about what is wrong and evil in America should be stamped out notion. They fail to realize that they are part of the stamping out process.
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But then again… The windmills are gonna power our homes – and the electric cars will get powered up in the garages of our homes.
Next up… time travel.
Exactly right. Don't forget who will be defining "merit."
When the police come in to clean up such housing, it's oppression, it's racist, they're "going after back folk," nevermind these are black communities with blacks doing the crimes. If the politicians clean it up enough that "other people" want to live there, it's "gentrification" and other less-quaint less-polite terms are used.
The solution, if politically possible, is to declare these places disaster areas and do an "emergency" dispersal far and wide, leave them living face-to-face with "the enemy." I shall freely assume there are many of such who have no plans of ever going back to New Orleans and find the "freedom" of their new lives much more promising, and regard politician pledges to restore the 9th Ward (and others) "just as they were" to be a threat.
Actually, it would be one of his shorter explanations. "You're a racist." Someone once said that the definition of a racist is anyone winning an argument with a liberal. I have yet to encounter any discussion where that did not turn out to be true.
I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at the comments directed TO you, from a typical BH smarta$$. We can be snarky here. The Intense Debate feature at the bottom of the page does make it easier, but comments occasionally do take a while to show up, just be patient, or repost after a while if it hasn't shown up.
Me too!
And I can prove it (from personal experience). About twenty years ago, Rose Bird and The Supremes (aka The California Supreme Court) decided that school districts could no longer use the property taxes for their own students. Much too racist. So all property tax had to be sent to Sacramento for "fair" redistribution to the "needy schools." All these years later, and after Bird and two of her colleagues were kicked off the bench, the rule remains.
At the time, my kids were in the Simi Valley schools. Then, as now, the residents paid high property taxes which had previously been spent in large part on local schools. Since the court decision, the state has consistently redistributed nearly four times as much per capita on the schools in South Central Los Angeles as it has in Simi Valley, despite the fact that Simi Valley residents pay more than four times as much per capita in property taxes. The Simi Valley School District has consistently scored annually in the top ten districts in the state. South Central remains a war zone, with little or no education taking place. Obviously, money isn't the problem.
Don't forget my cut.
The evidence Powell presented was supported by president Clinton, Belgian intelligence, and other sources that are anything but loyal to a Republican administration. The whole idea that it was cooked up for Bush/Cheney personal ambition is a myth. Sorry, but real life isn't as full of dramatic intrigue as you'd prefer.
And I don't consider a functioning representative republic and a free economy for Iraq as a bad thing, no matter which U.S. politician ushered it in. I'm hoping you'd agree.
At least he spelled vicious correctly.
here's the code words for today: clean and articulate
Outstanding job Andrew. If Dyson wants to lift inner city blacks, use his pulpit to stop the culture of motherf—kery.
Let me add the old saw about the weather: Everybody talks about taxes, but nobody ever does anything about it. Welcome, Carlos.
Liberals like Maher make jokes, throw out snarky comments, and make funny faces. Wit utterly escapes them. And for God's sake, somebody needs to tell Dyson that BREVITY is the soul of wit.
I did my student teaching at a Title 1 school– and no, it isn't the money. How do I describe it? Maybe 2/3rds of the class was English speaking, but that's probably a generous estimate. I know that during math and language classes no fewer than 4 aids had to come in to translate for the second language learners. Then, you have to factor in the drug use, single parenthood and abuse that ran rampant throughout. There was a hotel down the street that was the local hooker hangout, and unfortunately home to many of the kids at the school. And just when you think you're making progress with a kid, they up and move. The population in these schools is highly transient. It was so bad we had a 5th grader on suicide watch. I wish I was making this up. I was only there a couple of months and horror stories I could tell….My master teacher told me that the average burn-out rate for teachers at the school was 5 years.
I must make an historical and factual correction here. In Nazi Germany, sciene was very highly regulated. Don't confuse regulation with funding. Like Obama, Hitler decided what was good science and what was bad science. If it was "good," it got heavy funding. If it was "bad," it got no funding and was regulated out of existence, the scientists were declared enemies of the state, and their studies were terminated (along with the scientists) with extreme prejudice. The Germans fell behind in development of a nuclear weapon because Hitler declared Einstein's theories to be "Jewish science." Likewise for Stalin, who had to steal our nuclear secrets because he had a bad habit of killing off his best scientists or sending them to a gulag.
Andrew, you held you own quite well. The only advice I would give you is to be even more concise because they are not interested in your point and they are not going to give you enough time to make it.
I really shouldn't have watched this. I forgot how much Bill Maher's "hate speech" disgusts me. His assertion that science is built strictly on fact is, at the very least, laughable–at the very most it is scary since this idea is getting furthered.
There is undoubtedly an academic indoctrination going on in the scholastic empire, and science has somehow become superior to philosophy. Scientists forget that science fundamentally is a philosophy and always has been.
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The double standard on race has to go as well. Just because you're black does not give you the right to monopolize victimhood. As cited in comments above, there is plenty of racism from the other side of the fence. Let us also not forget the "other" races, such as Latinos and Asians (or are those code words, too?). They suffer and inflict just as much as any other demographic.
Actually, it's a better example of the kind of "codeword" usage that he accused conservatives of. In this case, "I'm articulate" means "I'm not the easily patronized black man that you're used to pushing around". I found the implication offensive, while the audience found it funny.
This also must mean that the majority of pro football fans are racist, because they mostly agreed with Rush about McNabb (though they had a problem with the inappropriate timing of the statement).
The fact that you thought that's what Breitbart said just shows how stupid (or dishonest, or both) you are.
No, the problem is the quality of the students and their families and community.
Yes, Andrew did extraordinarily well considering he was barely allowed to get a word in edgewise.
Fantastic job Andrew Breitbart!
"Cheers to the lone dude who clapped to Mr. Breitbart once."
Really, that takes guts when you're sitting amongst a crowd of left-wing thinkalikes who are clapping on cue. (I actually attended a taping of Maher's show once. My most vivid memory is being taken aside by security because I was scribbling in my notebook to pass the time while waiting for the show to start. They acted is if I were an enemy intruder.)
That's pretty unbelievable that he cited the Duke case in that way without knowing the facts. It's good that you confronted him.
The signal to laugh it would seem is a Bush is dumb joke. In a different interview I believe his name is Hetchens dealt with the crowd and Maher perfectly. He told the crowd and Maher that Bush was smarter than everyone there while giving the audience the finger. He just kept on talking and neither Maher or the crowd knew what to do.
Andrew, I adore you and try to support you whereever I can be it here or on Red Eye or DMR, but that is officially the last time I watch Maher, even if you're on again. I've refused to watch for years now, but broke my self imposed blackout (is that a codeword??) to watch the above clips. You deserve kudos for your effort, but I guess I just don't see the point. Any time you made a good observation it was two on one and your voice was drowned out. While I don't think the message can expand if we stay in an echo chamber, I don't think entering a den of lyin's will help either.
What an absolutely fantastic idea. I would be willing to chip in to help fund this. I bet a lot of other people would, too.
Bravo to Mr. Breitbart for a valiant effort. You got a couple good kicks in.
I would like to see that (is he really teaching at Georgetown? Scary and sickening) Dyson character explain why the Democratic welfare state, which has existed since 1965, has failed to solve the problems of urban blacks and has arguably increased them and re-enslaved them.
I would like to see him explain why Obama took campaign contributions from his Chicago slumlord friends, to whom he then directed federal subsidized housing contracts, which they put into their own pockets, while the slums became more and more uninhabitable with every passing year.
You don't even have to reference Hitler. Do you think Maher would sanction science that might lead to race specific germ warfare? What's his stand on the genetic manipulation of the foodstock — the so called frankenfoods that the European left hates so much? What's his position on bigger and better nukes? A neutron bomb. The T-virus from Resident Evil. He'd squeal like a stuck pig if you told him you endorsed any of that.
Like all liberal claims to support "freedom", he's only in favor of "freedom" for the things he likes and heavy regulation/banning for the things he doesn't.
Oh Thank God, the 3rd VIdeo cuts off just in time.
FYI: Your English was great., so was your comment.
There are no "trolls" here unless someone posts 1,000 times in a thread in a harassing way or is paid to post or something like that. Dissent IS welcome. But, I do have to say that what wr1 is saying are just "code" words meaning they're an idiot.
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The thing about Dyson was not just that he filibustered it's that what he said was tear inducing cliched "Victimhood for Dummies" type screeds. There were no deep or original thoughts in what he said. I love to have my ideas challenged, but Dyson's language ironically were just code words for "Hey, liberals and Black people I'm on your side." There was nothing truly intelligent or that I had not heard before.
you are a freakin idiot. the steelers and eagles are not a rivalry and since when is the steelers quarterback black?
Hitchens had the best line ever.. on Maher's show.
I think it was around 2004.. So After 4 years of "Bush is Dumb/Low IQ" complaining, he goes "You know what? This is the joke that stupid people laugh at."
And flips off Mahers audience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECI4QK_mXA
That was great.. my coment a few screens up links to that.
What you saw was someone filibustering , using no facts, no logic, just a stream of consciencousness rant.
You Leftists love to absolve the Muslims of all their actions, don't you? They slaughter each other en masse and somehow that's our fault.
Hey wasn't it your idea to leave at the height of the country's instability. Could we have attributed all those deaths that would have resulted from that to you?
Ann Coulter and Dennis Miller are our swords and they leave a trail of disemboweled opponents where ever they go. Coulter does the college lecture circuit and takes on all stripes of political beliefs. Not to mention walking into the ultimate snake pit "The View." Miller well he just buries people with logic and hilarious rants. I find it rather ironic that he's had so many different people on his shows, Stewart and Maher but I've never seen him on theirs. Rush does what he can, which is a lot, and I think probably provides the most Windex for the MSM glass house.
Andrew: For the brief moments they let you talk, I think you were one of the most potent point-makers I've seen of someone on the right on these sorts of shows in a while.
"Just think of all those innocent civilllians he killed when he invaded their country"
Was it wrong when Bill Clinton invaded Bosnia? What WMD's did they have that was a threat to the US and the world? What about all the innocents that were slaughtered when Wesley "The Mad Bomber Of Bosnia" Clark conducted air strikes on villages? I don't remember any of you self-righteous bleeding hearts protesting that war.
Bill Clinton was a POTUS in search of a legacy other than a stained dress. How many innocent children had to die because Clinton needed to make a name for himself?
Bush, OTOH, had 3000+ dead civilians who did nothing wrong other than go to work that morning. That was his motivation.
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I'm sure that Dyson would find a way to transform the statement "you're a racist" into a painfully loquacious diatribe of at least 40,000 words- including a goodly number of made-up ones.
To call him a pretentious faux-intellectual blowhard would be an understatement of Epic proportions.
All I can say is be veeeery careful. Like bring bodyguards careful. I worked with a cameraman who had done some filming on "Cops" with the L.A. gang unit and he said it scared the cr@p out of him. I also worked with a young producer (who was black) who would go film in Compton and everyone else pretty much thought he was crazy. He told me that the only reason he could film there was because he was black.
Dyson's Angry Sophist Rhetoric reminds me of this skit by Damon Wayans http://www.hulu.com/watch/5029/in-living-color-bo...
Dyson's Sophistry and no-meaning-Blac- Angry-Liberal-Intellectual Rhetoric reminds me of this skit from In Living Color http://www.hulu.com/watch/5029/in-living-color-bo...
Does no one on the left notice how on these shows the deck is always stacked against conservatives? The host is liberal, the other guest is liberal, the audience cheers whenever the liberals regurgitate a talking point, and the liberal guest gets to speak uninterrupted for several minutes while the conservative is cut off and talked over whenever he tries to get a word in edgewise. The host never interrupts the liberal. He ALWAYS interrupts the conservative. The liberal guest talks over the conservative one and the host makes no move to stop him. This happened when DL Hughley interviewed Chuck D and Michael Steele. He would barely allow Michael Steele to talk! They call it a "debate". What it really is is an attack; the conservative is in a pitched battle just to be heard.
And I can prove it (from personal experience). About twenty years ago, Rose Bird and The Supremes (aka The California Supreme Court) decided that school districts could no longer use local property taxes for their own students. Much too racist. So all property tax had to be sent to Sacramento for "fair" redistribution to the "needy schools." All these years later, and after Bird and two of her colleagues were kicked off the bench, the rule remains.
At the time, my kids were in the Simi Valley schools. Then, as now, the residents paid high property taxes which had previously been spent in large part on local schools. Since the court decision, the state has consistently redistributed nearly four times as much per capita on the schools in South Central Los Angeles as it has in Simi Valley, despite the fact that Simi Valley residents pay more than four times as much per capita in property taxes. The Simi Valley School District has consistently scored annually in the top ten districts in the state. South Central remains a war zone, with little or no education taking place. Obviously, money isn't the problem.
I got a kick out of Maher chastising Andrew for a “sleight of hand” on windmills powering autos, then almost immediately stating that there are starving children in America. Maybe he was referring to South America. Anyhoo, As good a case as Andrew made, the 3 against 1 format (the audience being the third) makes the clips almost unwatchable.
Man that is a classic Vince. And Hitchens was right…
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You betcha. The winners will be the ones who get the most kids goose-stepping to Obama's tune. Extra points to teachers who "liberate" students from the "oppression" of Christian homes. Sickening and infuriating.
I just stumbled upon this posting of yours on another site, and I just LOVES it! ; – )
LawhawkSF Says:
March 15th, 2009 at 2:33 am
"As a BA, MA, JD from top tier universities in the 60’s and 70’s, I’m getting a little tired of the current crop of pissy college graduates throwing their half-assed intellectualism around. Your BAs are equivalent to our junior high school diplomas. You didn’t receive an education, you received an indoctrination."
Idiots like Dyson would have been lucky to even graduate from college back in the day; and the notion that he would actually become a "professor" would have been too ludicrous to contemplate!
It's a one sided argument invite Very BrightBart on then attack Limbaugh. Why the hell didn't he invite Limbugh and attack BreitBart?
Then the racist Dyson (who talks like someone who just smoked out of a glass pipe) acusses the right of adhomin attacks with adhomin attacks. He accused Clerance Thomas of bein' a Puppet racist???? I guess It goes beond skin color for him then don't it!
And Andy is right the crowed is Moveon.org
The way I see it….. nearly every subject ( argument of the left) was taken out of context
no kidding, he wants to be treated as Black when that's to his advantage and as mainstream when its not. clowns like dyson need to be called out for their identity politics and its failure to accomplish anything other than promoting demagogic "leaders"
OK Blast, I'm going to give you help/advice on everything you need and what you have to do to make this work and keep you safe. I wish I could help you defray the cost, but right now I've been unemployed since Jan.2008, unemployment has run out, am disabled, but denied disability, forced to live w/my parents (I'm 51) while my kids (5 & 9) are in Ohio, and can't pay my child support. So the idea & technical advice and support I give you, gratis. And you're so right about the warmer temps. People just seem to get a whole lot nastier when the weather heats up. I've been saying the same thing for years. But we need to communicate where we've got more room. My e-mail is : dcolangelojr@yahoo.com. Put your screen name 'Blast" in the subject line.
And you are a freakin' illiterate.
Read the guy's post, moron- it says "a team which HAS HAD a black quarterback"- Kordell Stewart ringing any bells?
Gads, to say you're a dolt would be an insult to dolts.
GwynsMom, if you are serious as Blast Furnace appears to be, I suggest you get in touch w/him outside of BH. Good that you want to help.
Maher is repulsive enough but I agree with some others here that the most frightening and repulsive phenomenon of these shows is the audience. I don't one should even contemplate appearing on these shows if one isn't willing to challenge their very format and premise and shock and shame the audience.
Good reference. Seeing David Alan Greir on that clip reminded me of how that embarrassingly racist show Chocolate News is no more despite the audience that seemed to lap up every "die honky die" reference.
Gives one a little hope.
Think Andrew did a credibly good job under almost unbearable conditions here. However, after viewing all three videos, I continue to believe the chasm between Breitbart and Maher/Dyson is simply unbridgeable. And what that bodes for the future of our country does not give me peaceful assurance.
A lawyer always gets his cut….
We sure did. And some of them are at the top best ever.
But what we really do is to produce soccer players – that girly sport.
There are legends about a lost civilization in Manaus; some indians that hold the way to the center of the earth. Have u heard of it?
Thanks, I do appreciate your help.
Thanks. I do try my best.
That would be a great name for a parody show!! "Politically Lock-Stepped with Bill Mar"
One of our BH contributors should think about using that!!!
Rush a racist? As in Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan? If Rush is a racist (he's not, of course) then Obama should no doubt welcome him with open arms – he seems perfectly comfortable in the company of such world class racists as the aforementioned Wright and Farrakhan.
Funny how Maher and Dyson are so adept at sniffing out racism in every corner of the conservative movement (no matter how specious or absurd) but ignore the stench polluting their own backyard.
I am livid; Dyson and his type are always victims and spill blame and hatred towards another. There is no accountability or responsibility for their actions. It must feel great to be black and say whatever you want without being referred to as a racist. If Rush is a racist then how come this Dyson guy isn’t. Dyson is arrogant and refers to himself as articulate; it is easy to ramble when all he is doing is regurgitating what he has studied and remembered line by line from his pro black anti white books. It is embarrassing that Bill agrees with this Dyson. Lastly, the white liberals in the audience, you would have thought Dyson was Einstein and discovered the theory of relativity. Why do white liberals believe that if a black person can articulate a few big words, then they are regarded as a genius?
Why do white liberals believe that if a black person can articulate a few big words, then they are regarded as a genius?
Because THEY are the real racists. They patronize minorities. It's what they do. Who else but liberals could come up with a wholly patronizing system like affirmative action?? Aren't they the ones who perpetuate the notion that minorities are too stupid (or lazy) to get anywhere without a leg up? The hypocrisy is never ending and never ceases to amaze me.
Oh, yeah? Then how come I smell smoke and hear the sound of a mob with pitchforks downstairs? Wait a minute, it's Nancy Pelosi and the Board of Supervisors come to ask me about my Republican party registration.
No, I'm sure you're NOT the only one who is fed up with quasi-educated self-important twits, but you're the first one I've seen to use that fabulous quip: "You didn't receive an education, you received an indoctrination".
You described the state of ("higher") education in this country perfectly in 9 concise words.
P.S. Kudos for making it out of Berkeley with your wits and sense intact. That couldn't have been an easy task!
Amen Sister
I wish somebody had the guts to ask Dyson hypothetically what he thought would happen if all the Asians and Caucasians disappeared from the U.S.?
I got lucky, too. It was generational. My son's a perfectly normal UCLA grad, and my older daughter is a sane Cal State Northridge grad. Not wishing to tempt fate a third time, I sent my younger daughter to Cal Lutheran. Did you catch the later posts? One of the twits struck again with "Republicans don't read Ayn Rand. They read The Mighty Thor and TV Guide." Kurt K shot back with " . . . and Democrats believe they voted [The Mighty Thor] into the White House."
…also replying to LawhawkSF:
As an early '70s top-tier journalism school grad, I concur, to put it mildly, on the education of graduates today. I note "early '70s," because journalism became a pop major after Watergate. Instead of bettering the trade, this began the decline of objective reporting.
Congratulations- it looks like your family's anti-bullsh*t genes are highly developed.
Yep, I saw that "Mighty Thor" post too, but decided not to feed the troll…; – )
Hadn't heard of that legend Carlos. My impression of Manaus is some lost magnificent city way up the Amazon, with an abandoned opera house, where visiting opera singers sent their laundry to Paris to be cleaned in the 1920s –
Who do you think was the best Brazilian F1 Driver? My vote would be Senna…
I thought he would have said that 'I'm clean and articulate" – no wait, Joe Biden started that
I'm glad that Andrew Breitbart can hold his own. I was so angry four minutes into the video that I couldn't see straight. The visciousness of these people never ceases to amaze me.
Eddie no one would ever confuse for being a man. Just because you have the correct plumbing. There is more to being manly than hiding behind your lap top screen covered in cheetos dust. You come off like a sniveling fifteen year old geek. MY GOD IT COULD BE MAHER! Just kidding, but don't they sound alike?
That's pretty damn funny.
Here, here to Tony Snow! I can't think about him without tearing up! He was a true gentleman and gracious to all! Obviously I didn't know him personally, but listening to him all those years I felt like he was family. I miss him very much and wish all the best to his family.
Senna was amazing, but I belive Piquet was a more complete driver.
The exact quote on fools from Mark Twain is: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
You don't have to be mind reader, just a READER. You know, like read the interviews he gave over the last couple of years in which he admitted his severe doubts of the accuracy of what he was saying.
I agree 100%.
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God bless.
Excellent; thank you.
En-How.
Dyson's is a BULLY.
Wait Limbaugh isn't a racist or a bigot?
"I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."
"You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed."
"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
"Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing."
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
"They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller)."
"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve."
Nah, that doesn't sound like something a racist or a bigot would say.
Nope. Not at all.
andrew, sorry, i just can't bring myself to watch this just yet. i heard you the other day on the radio subbing for dennis miller, and i really admire your skill, presenting your ideas in a your gentlemanly tone. i can only imagine what went on here, but i still have to believe that you might have influenced someone watching who might have been predisposed to the dyson/maher tactics perhaps to rethink.
WR1 is a troll, even if some of its posts sometimes seem like argument. So is Revhatch and a couple others. WR1 comes here, posts a half dozen insulting posts and then leaves. It's not here to dissent, it's here to insult and stir the pot.
…but you Eddie, are viscous. About 40 weight I'd guess.
I live in Philadelphia, .It's common knowledge in these parts that McNabb is a sub par Q'back.
He's a gentleman, I'll give him that, but not championship material.
I guess this place must be wall to wall racists.
Thanks. It was a straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back moment. I've read so many of those "I'm an intellectual and the rest of you are uneducated idiots" posts and have simply considered the source. For some reason that patronizing post about the current amazing sales of "Atlas Shrugged" pushed me over the cliff. I wasn't even defending Ayn Rand particularly, since I have libertarian leanings but am much more of a traditional conservative. It got me so ticked off that I even defended my alma mater UC Berkeley, which doesn't come easily to me these days. I know I'm not the only one fed up with these quasi-educated self-important twits.
TFB
Calm down, are you under a doctor's care?
Many of your quotes appear apocryphal – could you please source them in the future, otherwise some folks may think you're making this stuff up – not that I do but then I'm uncommonly tolerant –like you.
Isiah Thomas once remarked (after Detroit lost to Boston), that the only reason anyone pays attention to Larry Bird is because he is white.
What a guy, huh?
Was he called on the carpet for such an idiotic statement? No. He was eventually made MANAGER of the NY KNICKS! (Rush was thrown off the TV sports program for a much more nuanced and subtle remark).
Clear your aching brain of its ill-conceived notions of creeping racism. You'll live longer and think more clearly.
And let's not forget the two facts that every liberal likes to forget:
1. Sadam used poison gas against Kurdish villages. Thus, proof that he had and used WMD.
2. Sadam BRAGGED about having WMD and said he would use them against anyone who invaded. That's enough evidence, whether it ultimately turned out to be true or not.
I am a white, Jewish, single dad, and I am a raging progressive. My son is among the top of his class. And we live in the inner city. Anecdotes are not data, right?
I salute Andrew for leading the fight. He's right. As hard as it is to swallow, the only way to get through to the ignorant is to voice your opinion out loud where they can't avoid hearing you. I myself, don't have the stomach for it. I tried to watch the youtube video and couldn't get through the first 5 minutes, my head was exploding with the unfairness, irrational logic and twisted opinions. I feared for the safety of my MAC. As a young black female, I HATE when black people use race as an anchor. Can we have an honest debate without accusing someone of being racist? Any time someone like Rush, disagrees with someone of color they are automatically racist. It's sickening to me. I come from a beautifully mixed background, (my family originates from the Caribbean where all races are intertwined) and the racism I've encountered came from my own black community. My skin was too light, my eyes too golden, my hair too straight and long, and my grammer too "white" and perfect to be considered one of them. And yet I grew up in the same neighborhood, went to the same schools and hung out in the same playgrounds. That was racism to me. That was how I defined racism when I was young. I was not accepted because of the way I looked. I was pre-judged because of the way I looked. One of my best friends later on admitted she HATED me at first sight but when I offered her the chair next to me in class and saw Wu Tang in my walkman, she realized the "light girl" wasn't as stuck up as she thought she was. How is that any different from the white woman who clutches their bag when a young black man approaches her in the street? Black people only hold themselves back when they use race as an excuse for everything. Men like Dyson do more damage than good by avoiding tricky political debates just by throwing a race grenade in the midst.
2 wrongs….You all often argue in that mode. Regardless any other racist comment ever made, Rush has made some.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.as...
Not too hard to find out the truth. Just gotta be open and look!
Thank you, IzzyBelle, for your insightful comment .
And I, too, salute Andrew — and ask him (anyone!) — how can we prevent what is happening to our government? What can we do other than write letters to Washington? The Bill of Rights is almost on life support!
…also replying to Saul:
As an early '70s top-tier journalism school grad, I concur, to put it mildly, on the education of graduates today. I note "early '70s," because journalism became a pop major after Watergate. Instead of bettering the trade, this began the decline of objective reporting.
What are you implying by the term "You All"? Sounds like it could be some sort of 'racist code'. Suggest you check with Dyson and get back to me. Hey, I'm looking for the truth too…
AB, you have massive courage to go on a show like Maher's, and defend against spurious charges of racism.
But the Catch-22:
The better your argument, the more they will attack you as racist, and assume you are racist, and work to shut you up and destroy you.
(I've experienced this on a trivial level among my circle of friends).
Funny that while Maher detests religious faith, he essentially indulges in faith-based, self-serving hate.
Reminds me, there was a guest on RedEye the other night, who said,
"Give me an adjective, ANY ADJECTIVE, and I can construe it to be a racist insult."
Actually it is a much more sophisticated yechnology. It uses the new voice recognition software that times randomly preprogramed responses exactly .666 seconds after the word is registered. Why 0.666 seconds. It just a number Bill Maher likes to associate with.
Why did they find Saren gas among the ammo stores in Iraq. If I remember correctly every 500 and somethingth shell was actually a Saren gas missile. Also why did they find aluminum tubing which is used in making missiles?
I keep hearing this generalized statement from you liberals yet never once do you try to explain these facts which no one disagrees with. Pretell are you Knowingly Lying to Big Hollywood……….. Gasp!
Why did they find Saren gas among the ammo stores in Iraq. If I remember correctly every 500 and somethingth shell was actually a Saren gas shell. Also why did they find aluminum tubing which is used in making missiles?
I keep hearing this generalized statement from you liberals yet never once do you try to explain these facts which no one disagrees with. Pretell are you Knowingly Lying to Big Hollywood……….. Gasp!
I had to stop watching this garbage…Code words and language? I want to know who’s going to decipher and decode the code words from Rush or any other American? Do other races use code words or is only white racist republicans. This is an attempt to eliminate real debate and stifle the other side of the debate which is conservatism.
The liberals have succeeded in word replacement. Republican = racists. But the real racists are the one’s yelling and pointed at other people and saying that they are racists
Dyson has identified himself as a complete tool.
Clarence Thomas now is a white supremicist because he does not agree with him. If Dyson is so articulate how come he had nothing to say that amde any sense.
Is Walter Williams now a white supremecist? How about Thomas Sewell one of Rush's favaorite economists.?
Why did you deign to give this "lout" any credibilty whatsoever Andrewby going on his show? They were both beneath you.
Amazing that Dyson would go on for minutes spewing his racist bombastic rhetoric, but as soon as Andrew started to make a point, Maher would change the topic and off would go Dyson for another 5 minutes while the sycophantic crowd clapped (most likely not understanding what was said, but cueing in on hateful liberal buzzwords). More disheartening, though not surprising, is Maher's intense hatred for religion and God. Pray for his soul as he will definitely need it if he doesn't wise up soon.
I went to college in the late 80's. What I noticed was that if you were failing to get higher than a 2.5 average or were not wanting to work very hard you ended up in the Journalism school because they had a 2.0 requirement and had no math or science requirements.
Quite frankly if they actually started forcing the Journalism majors to take beginning busines courses, basic sciences and other subjects so that they had some reference when they reported on these issues in the real world we would see a lot less liberal bias in the media..
MAybe it's just me but there seem to be precious few professions dominated by liberals that require a good understanding of mathematics.
I HAAAAAAATTTTTEEEEE the stupid sociology professor…
"Code Language", ugh….that's racist
Whew! I give Andrew lots of credit for jumping into the lion's den. This is exactly what political conservatives need to do. Our arguments are so much better than political liberals. Now, if only we can be allowed to express our arguments without being interrupted (even if it is done politely, as was done by Maher).
As we saw in the first clip, Maher cut Andrew off in the middle of his second sentence, but then said "I don't mean to interrupt". Awwww. How polite, Bill, but yes you did. Otherwise, you would have stopped that raving lunatic next to Andrew from making all THREE of his points, all of which seemed to be recited verbatim from anti-conservative literature. I mean, c'mon! He couldn't even look Andrew in the eye when he was making his point. He was staring down at one spot on the table the entire time as if trying to remember every word. Talented? Yes. But I can memorize too. It's how I graduated high school and college with honors. Articulate? No way. Being articulate would require him to clearly and fluently communicate his ideas. He was babbling at speaking velocities exceeding 100 mph…
I recognize this, because I do the same thing! People speak this way when they fear they won't remember their argument, so they try to get it out as fast as they can. Usually, a good moderator would catch this and change panel members or topics, but we're talking about Bill Maher here. He was there to comfort the babbling drone. He was there to provide a freedom-of-speech umbrella for the politically liberal and to set up a freedom-of-speech barracade against the politically conservative.
The paradigm needs to be shifted. That's right. It's time for political conservatives to become social liberals. Too long have we allowed the irresponsible people to play "moderators" or "the voices of reason and/or fairness". I'm tired of feeling my skin crawl when I watch an interview or a news program.
Again, I commend Andrew for being on that show. If he reads this, I hope he keeps fighting the good fight because there are still decent people watching. A lot of us just don't have a camera or a microphone. Keep it up!
Bix
Dom, like all of us conservatives, you are expecting the libs to be rational and react like we would. Don't lose track of the fact that "liberalism is a mental disorder" (thanks Savage). Their argument always comes back to "power". Whites have power, so we are racist. Blacks have no power (even though the occupant of the oval office is 1/2 black) so therfore they can't be racist. Their attitude is just their response to their lack of "power"
good luck, though.
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Eric dyson is an ass! sorry i cannot intelectualize his crap!
Well Andrew…
You did about as well as any Conservative I have seen in that forum. What's so funny is that that smug self-indulgent Liberal guest to your side had the nerve to accuse you of what he was doing…'Playing Heads I Win-Tails You Lose'
Yes, it can be disheartening — so many uninformed people portraying themselves as qualified. (not mention as being superior to any interviewee with whom they do not agree)
woops – correction
that should be
… not to mention …
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Hi adagio4strings,__Just for your information, Rush never actually criticized McNabb. He criticized the media for being invested in the success of a black quarterback. His point was that McNabb's skin color should NOT be an issue when assessing his performance. He wanted him to be judged as a quarterback rather than as a BLACK quarterback. The media lied about Rush's point and framed it as a racist attack on McNabb.__Subsequent reporting and analysis of this invented "controversy" eventually vindicated Rush and proved him right all along.
"1 Trillion and we could have rebuilt every school road etc etc" Yay for giving terrorists nice pretty stuff to blow up! Leave it to an insipid twit like Maher to ignore the scope of the amazing task that was undertaken to establish a new dynamic within the middle east. The "evil" Neocon mission in Iraq was to strike at the roots of terror not just the symptoms. The world must confront Islamic terror because in that region of the world the only options for governance are theocracy and socialistic dictatorship. Both of these models fail to meet the needs of their people and result in disaffected groups that look for external enemies to blame for their reality.
In Iraq we are attempting to establish a model for successful governance in the middle east. I'll be the first to say that the war, beyond the initial invasion, was handled poorly, but that doesn't mean that the central Neocon agenda is flawed. An attempt to remove the threat of cancer (poor governance) rather than dealing with the effects (terrorism) is and was worth the effort. Some are comfortable with with the Realist IR model or its effeminate cousins Social Constructivism, International Society Theory, and Liberal Internationalism, but I think they've proven insufficient in addressing modern concerns in a world transitioning from a unipolar structure toward a multi-polar world.
In summation Bill Maher and those that mindlessly clap at his "war bad" "Bush evil" mantra are out of their depth.
Dyson is mostly insufferable, but he is correct that science is taken on faith and can change as new facts contradict old theories. I believe it's called a paradigm shift, a la Thomas Kuhn's Structures of Scientific Revolution.
@NYDaisy
Keep preaching, sister.
Recall that the current vice president, Joe Biden, was shocked that his boss, Pres. Obama, could be so "articulate" for a Black man.
Wes,
Here's another twist about Isaiah Thomas and racism. During a harassment case (which he lost), Thomas stupidly said that it's okay for Black men to call Black women (rhymes with witch). But White men are hateful if they use the term.
Read more here:
http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/and-p...
Guys like Thomas make me REALLY embarassed to be a Black man. These self-hating jerks inflict more damage on Black people than the Klan!
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Andrew did a great job attacking the false racism claim right away. And as he pointed out, that is the worst thing that you can be labeled with in this country. The verbal vomit that Dyson kept spewing was a little too much. But when you get to the basis of his arguments, they always deal with thoughts and feelings rather than facts. That was so apparent when Andrew asked for specifics and they couldn't provide anything to back up their claims. And when they peddled the "Magic Negro", he smashed them with the fact that a LA Times Liberal columnist was the first to write about the term. Notice how Maher changed the subject very quickly. Nice job and we need more people going into the Liberal establishment and punching them in the nose with facts and not letting them off with their morale relativism and mendacity.
I totally agree with you Fred. The true depths of Thomas' stupidity and buffoonary have yet to be fully plumbed. Fortunately for him that after single-handedly destroying the once-great NY Knicks, no one pays much attention to anything this misogynist fool has to say. The fact that Dyson excuses such behavior is another sign of the the self-hatred you allude to. Maher is even worse – he's a patronizing bigot who excuses dolts like Thomas because he expects no better.
You're right, the Klan could not match the damage weaselsThomas, Maher, Dyson et al inflict on all of us.
MORE Andrew, do more of these and show them that the Republican Party as a whole is not going to stand for it any longer. Not the Leadership of the Republican party but we the People.
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Biggest chance for a kill shot that Breitbard missed was when Dyson talked about spending more for rich suburban schools, than poor inner city minority schools.
Total BS:
DC Schools are 3rd in spending per student in the country! 3rd!!! And what do they have to show for it? Arguably the worst performing school system in the developed world.
And that brings me to another interesting point. Why doesn't anyone ask the obvious questions about inner city schools? I love that argument about how those EEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL Republicans are destroying education. Look at the makeup of these schools staffs and administration.
60% or more women, usually of the feminist variety.
administered by women, blacks and, to some extent down here, Hispanics
well paid union teachers
Yeah those Republicans sure are screwing up public education.
Eric Dyson (AKA Mr. Empirical Data) stated that that inner city schools get less money than suburban schools, class sizes with 50-60 students and the need for social consequences for bad things that happen in the inner city.
It make me wonder where he gets his data (off the cuff?), how many students he has in each of his classes and why he agreed with Bill Maher’s assertion that we need to “stop sending people to jail”.
On that note, could the ratio of races represented by prison populations (that he mentioned in one fit of loggorhea) have anything to do with the ratio of crimes committed by race? That seems like another research project that would have some great empirical data. A follow-on study could explore how many of the convicts were actually convicted based on bigotry, corruption, etc. since this his implication seems to be a code phrase that the justice system on the whole is partial to/against certain people.
Are these the same morons from the View audience – perhaps it's best we go down like this. Breitbart is so cogent and these other two toads are just that.
[...] transcribed a bit of Andrew Breitbart’s journey in to the maw of hell (from the top video) as a first-class demonstration of what it looks like when someone else decides [...]
[...] time, courtesy of dicentra, who has “transcribed a bit of Andrew Breitbart’s journey in to the maw of hell (from the top video) as a first-class demonstration of what it looks like when someone else decides [...]
[...] Additional clips here. [...]
[...] inside the white oppressor.* [...]
[...] of HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” (video available at Breitbart’s Big Hollywood website) where he was tag-teamed by a liberal elitist host and a self-important pseudo-intellectual [...]
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