Compliant ‘L.A. Times’ Gives Stone Leftist Platform
by Billy Hallowell“You do your homework, you do your research, we always did, whatever you think of my work. Even going back to ‘JFK,’ I’ve always done as much research as we could. And there’s mistakes made, but there’s a lot of truth, you know, as much as we can put into these movies.” – Oliver Stone, as quoted in the L.A. Times.
Irony is what happens when a Hollywood director (Oliver Stone) goes to Latin America, produces a film favorable to one of the most maniacal and politically obnoxious figures in the region (Hugo Chavez), and then returns to the States to tout what he sees as his own astounding “research” skills. In what world would legitimate research on Chavez result in any favorable representation in film or any other venue, for that matter?
Even more concerning than Stone’s own tweaked coverage and perception of the dictator is the L.A. Times’ representation of the film – and shall I say, meager, questioning of its tenants. In an article by Times journalist Reed Johnson, the paper, in all of its glory, referred to Chavez as a “…former military officer turned democratically elected socialist leader.” Talk about niceties.
While admitting that the film does not provide diverse views on Chavez, the article only mentions “dust-ups” with media outlets opposed to the regime and Chavez’s role in assisting radicals in rallying against Columbia’s government (but these mentions come only in the context of what the film, itself, does not cover).
Sadly, the piece serves as a bullhorn for Stone’s own views on the evils of America and his infatuation with the Venezuelan dictator’s charm. Instead of raising facts and figures from those who would disagree with anti-American rhetoric, the piece does little to provide well-rounded perspective. Johnson writes:
In his new documentary “South of the Border,” Oliver Stone is shown warmly embracing Hugo Chavez, nibbling coca leaves with Evo Morales and gently teasing Cristina Elizabeth Fernández de Kirchner about how many pairs of shoes she owns.
These amiable, off-the-cuff snapshots of the presidents of Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina, respectively, contrast with the way these left-leaning leaders often are depicted in U.S.”
The article makes no real effort to delve into the human rights violations that Chavez champions in Venezuela. And while one can argue that this wasn’t the purpose of the article, Stone is minimally pressed to answer further about why he’s avoided these issues. If the L.A. Times felt it so necessary to provide a platform for Stone’s work, why not also provide a framework through which readers could better understand why many Americans dislike Chavez’s restrictive regime? The U.S. retains a negative view of Chavez with good reason.
Take the following statement from Human Rights Watch (coincidently, not a right-leaning group by any stretch of the imagination):
On September 18, we released a report in Caracas that shows how President Hugo Chavez has undermined human rights guarantees in Venezuela. That night, we returned to our hotel and found around twenty Venezuelan security agents, some armed and in military uniform, awaiting us outside our rooms. They were accompanied by a man who announced—with no apparent sense of irony—that he was a government “human rights” official and that we were being expelled from the country.
The official reason for their expulsion? “[Violating] the constitution by criticizing the government while on tourist visas.” Ironically, they weren’t even on tourist visas. But this is only one example. One wonders what happens to Venezuelan citizens who dare question Chavez’s authority. Note: The L.A. Times may not be the place to go to collect this information.
And, while the Times would apparently seek to focus, as does Mr. Stone, on the fact that Chavez is “democratically elected,” let’s review the radicalization we’ve seen coming from his administration – violations that the L.A. Times confirms Stone left out of his leftist propaganda.
According to The New York Times, following re-election in 2006…
“[Chavez] nationalized electrical companies, asserted government control over oil projects in the Orinoco forests and withdrew from the International Monetary Fund. He also cracked down on television stations that had been critical of him, and proposed a referendum on constitutional changes that would centralize power in the presidency and remove term limits for the post.”
Ahh, a whiff of democracy!
Oh, and did I mention that Venezuelan voters democratically turned down his insane referendum? Would it have killed Johnson to merely mention of the constrictive actions that pose concern not only to conservative groups in America, but also to the leftist Human Rights Watch? Probably not. To those completely unfamiliar with Venezuelan politics, this article did little more than promote Stone’s film.
Ironically, Stone – an artist – doesn’t address Chavez’s media restrictions and state-run outlets (apparently love for a dictator of sorts trumps his love for the arts). And the Times, a supposed-democratic tool, also declines to delve into this important detail. Both would have us to believe that the heinousness Chavez inflicts on the citizens of his nation – and on the arts and media – is good old democracy at work. Insane.







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Oliver Stone needs to move to Venezula or Cuba along with a few other lefts in Hollywood. Maybe they will just love the freedoms they are given by the rulers. The last sentence says it perfectly – as much of the truth as we can put into the film – in other words tell the lie and forget the truth.
The LA Times gives Jonah Goldberg a platform to be consistently stupid and wrong, so why can't others have their shot?
For his next attention grabbing act watch as Oliver Stone writes his name on the wall with do-do.
I'm pretty sure when Stone imagines being in those places, he doesn't think that he's going to be one Castro's or Chavez's oppressed subjects…I mean, "grateful citizens helped by the benign rule of the Great Leader." He imagines that he is going to be Chavez or Castro or at least one of the head honchos in the administration. Yeah, there might be a few troublemakers who don't appreciate what Uncle Hugo and Cousin Oliver want to for them, so you have to deal with them for the good of everyone else. Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. The possibility that Stone and his like might be among the "eggs" never crosses his mind.
"………..but there’s a lot of truth, you know, as much as we can put into these movies.” – Oliver Stone, as quoted in the L.A. Times.
Which is ……..NONE!!!
What in particular has he been "stupid" and/or "wrong" about? Any details, or are you just another bomb-throwing loser?
I am still more apt to believe what my Venezualian former roommate of 3 years has to say about Chavez than a movie producer/director that is probably a communist himself. It's no wonder he believes the rule changing, opposition squashing, Amerophile, psuedo-dictator (but is one media outlet closing and rule change away from full fledged dictator) "President" Chavez is a good man…
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It matters not, how much "research" one does, if one does not apply it.
I recall a time long ago when Oliver Stone would at least attempt to disguise his leftwing agitprop as popular entertainment. As his audience numbers for such films continues to dwindle, why bother with such pretense, right? First, Castro (twice), then Chavez, and now, possibly, another docu-mentally on Iran's foul mouthpiece, as well? Is Ollie familiar with the concept of the Useful Idiot, or is he yet another in a long line of tools who refuse to consider that good ol' Lenin just might have been referring to folks such as himself?
That said, no amount of present-day, pseudo-intellectual, dictator-pandering could possibly sour my film geek's appreciation for The Hand. Me and the half-dozen other people who love it, I'm sure.
This is hilarious! Oliver Stone, the Oliver Stone, creator of Platoon and JFK, is no more than a two-bit tool of propaganda. He is now Joseph Goebbels. Maybe he always was. I was impressed and impacted by Platoon when I first saw it as a young man in college. But perhaps he was working with the Vietnamese government back then as well. It is easier to be lead by a dictator than actually do research.
What a joke.
They also give Bill Maher an op-ed. Maher isn't fit to lick Jonah Goldberg's shoes.
Hugo Chavez is a loser. Is "Pyongyang Nights: How Kim Jong Il Is Misunderstood" Stone's next project?
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The fact that none of them have ever read or understand our constitution is pretty transparent too. David Horowitz is the foremost expert on leftist radicals and how they do things.
Would be great to see his stuff on BH.
the left is emboldened and isn't going away…
Stone and his cohorts can now be 'open' of their love of 'enlightened' despotism. Being elites, they are not subject to the tyrannies (at least so far they're not) that will imposed on the hoi polloi- us. The contempt that they have for their fellow humans is breathtaking, we are considered 'useless eaters'… so when fatso Moore says we can 'trust' Kim Jong Il it means we can trust him to subjugate his people.
We need to accede to Obama's 'rule' dontcha know? So we would actually be surprised if Stone wasn't out in the open with his mancrush on dictators like Castro and Chavez.
Wouldn't you?
Oliver Stone is an Ignorant Bastard!
-More Than 100 Experts Question Human Rights Watch's Venezuela Report
https://nacla.org/node/5334
Billy, you should try to stay away from things you don't know anything about. You just end up sounding stupid. Watching Fox News & CNN everyday doesn't mean you know Venezuela.
@Gene… theres ALWAYS at least one American that goes and says the inevitable… "well why don't you move there" crap. Gene, the point is we're AMERICANS and we don't like how corporate oligarchs dictate our foreign policy and how the news media demonizes others for ratings and so that naive Americans can cuddle up in their glass bubble and think that the rest of the world is some nightmare so I better be complacent here where I am…
@ Walker… so when Ollie made a movie about GWB and painted him in a very neutral light he was also doing propaganda??? Huh? Don't you just love logic?
I hope he can bring the enlightenment and logic that he brought to the JFK film for Chavez, a wonderful retelling of history that could only really be understood through the eyes of a very heavy dope smoker. Using every magical theory and urban myth since the 1963 event, Stone used Jim Garrison a paranoid, clueless but somewhat ambitions local prosecutor to guide this menagerie of conspiracy’s to its ridiculous conclusions. I am sure that the freedom fighter Chavez has some how been turned into a maniacal Castro wannabe because of something that happened to him early on because of Dick Cheney. I did hear where he was going to make another Wall Street movie, maybe he could pay tribute to the Kennedys again by renaming it “Quick Fortune, The Joe Kennedy Story”.
@KevinMcHale… yeah, he must be a loser, he's got the US's knickers all in a twist for pretty much changing the tide of Latin American politics in the past 10 years single-handedly. Losers renegotiate the entirety of their country's natural resource contracts with the US, EU, Russua & the rest of the world gaining majority control over everything and live to see the benefits. Losers turn their nations from subservient whorehouses to US corporate interests and return control over that nations resources to the Venezuelan people. Losers survive a US (Bush) backed coup attempt where so many other Latin American leaders fell. Yeah, that sounds like a loser to me….
The less said about Stone the better – the guy is funded by the Hollywood elite based on his political views – as filmmaker there are scores of others who are better. But this guy gets the funding because of his political views, not because people lgo to his movies (they don't). look 50 – 50% of the population int he USA is conservative, yet it took an Australian outsider to realize that there was money to be made by tailoring the news to conservative Americans. No one has done in this in the entertainment industry leaving it wide open for someone who wants to make tons of money – in a capitalist economy its "find a need and fill it." Well, where is the entertainment geared to this enormous group – outside of "South Park?" Who wants to be a millionaire?
Its becoming more and more apparent that the Democratic party is the party of communism. Why the average person buys into the crap that is spoon fed them about the virtues of the institutional slavery of the people to its government is beyond me. Its almost like a mental disorder or severe denial.
Jose – Sorry, but your little red scarf has a smudge on it. Your block leader will be very concerned about your dedication to the Party if you can't present a good appearance.
"so when Ollie made a movie about GWB and painted him in a very neutral light… " – Ha, ha, ha – take that you bourgeois capitalist pigs!
Neutral light????
What color is the sky in your world??
What movie did you watch? He slammed him and fabricated most of the content.
Please tell us with your infinite knowledge, point by point where Goldberg is wrong? Please enlighten us.
ah, Kim Jong's very own Boogie Nights… he's going to need an even longer prosthetic than Walberg did.
Guy, it's in the ENTERTAINMENT section. If you want to pretend it's hard-news front-page indoctrination instead of puffery about movies – like your work – then enjoy your Depends while they're dry: the feeling won't last long.
I like your use of the capital P in party to refer to where Jose is coming from.
Yeah. Jon Stewart uses the same dodge : "I'm just an entertainer, so don't blame me for telling lies every night."
Just movies. Right. Like The China Syndrome didn't set back nuclear power for 30 years, not to mention the fact-free 'documentary' fantasies of the Fat Fabricator.
Er, you missed the bit about comparing volunteers to slaves?
That was stupid, and in invoking the 13th Amendment, wrong.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/08/opinion/o...
Better yet: For his next attention grabbing act watch as Oliver Stone makes a celebratory 'documentary' on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. This is not a joke: http://www.3news.co.nz/Oliver-Stone-in-talks-for-...
BHers, be aware- as much as we joke about George Soros, in truth the Venezuelan embassy really does have a crew of paid trolls who spread chavista propaganda and obfuscate the ugly tyrannical truth, like Jose here.
Dude, put the bong down and stop reading Howard Zinn.
You might want to note that there was an actual nuclear accident 12 days after the release of The China Syndrome, there, Mr. Scrupulous-With-the-Facts.
As for Michael Moore, he's closer to the facts than Big Hollywood is on a regular basis, not that that's a high bar.
I thought it sounded kinda phony….
<*sigh*> Precisely. In one of those coincidences which tempts one to believe there really is a Devil, the release came close in time to a *very minor* accident at TMI which posed no risk to anybody. But thanks to the movie's hystericism, the American public conflated the two, and started to believe that we had only narrowly avoided The End Of The World! AAAGGHHHHHH!
It's not exactly "volunteerism" if you are compelled (under the threat of losing access to federal funds for your education in the form of grants or loans) to do 100 hrs of community service. Some students would not be able to "afford" to refuse! (Talk about 'the Chicago way'!)
I mean, those brought in chains to these shores were compelled by threat of pain or death. Compulsion does not "volunteerism" make. I am not in any way compelled to teach Sunday School or donate to a food pantry, or clean up trash near my church. I volunteer to do it.
There was nothing wrong with "invoking" (quoting, you mean) the 13th amendment.
Nope, nothing stupid, and nothing wrong in that opinion piece. Let me say it again: OPINION PIECE.
I won't mince words with you: I think you are a very stupid person.
Nope, nothing stupid, and nothing wrong in that opinion piece.
Well you're quite wrong, unless you think that compelling students to do anything at all – like, say, take classes – is the same thing as slavery.
HA!
Hahahahahahahaha!
That statement right there PROVES beyond all doubt that you are delusional and devoid of any honesty.
You're also an IDIOT.
Yeah, the #1 news program got that way by spewing complete garbage and Obama propaganda just like all the other networks… WHATEVER!
If he passes out under a table, I guess it's brown….
That's "neutral" treatment in Jose's screwed-up drug-addled mind.
This genius will suck up more tax dollars on welfare. WHo would hire him? (Not that he'd WANT a job…)
In one of those coincidences which tempts one to believe there really is a Devil, the release came close in time to a *very minor* accident at TMI which posed no risk to anybody.
That's why the head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission had the Governor advised kids and pregnant women to leave. There was a large-scale evacuation.
After the fact, obviously the accident was small potatoes in comparison to Soviet accidents, but the fact that the operators of TMI lied to government officials about the extent of the problem probably had a greater effect on the trust of the citizenry than did The China Syndrome.
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Sure, idiot, I guess if they don't like the idea of being compelled to "volunteer" for community service, those students can just stay home and not go to classes…
IDIOT. YOU'RE AN EXCELLENT LIBERAL- COMPLETELY STUPID, COMPLETELY PLIABLE AND UNQUESTIONING.
Sure, idiot, I guess if they don't like the idea of being compelled to "volunteer" for community service, those students can just stay home and not go to classes…
Part of the mechanism proposed, among other things, was service in return for a federally funded student loan.
So yeah, the students could of course go to class if they were not borrowing from the feds, which is the free market at work, right?
Must-see interview with former KGB propagandist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otxHEOdvoaM
He covers (and castigates) people like Stone pretty thoroughly.
When dealing with totalitarian nations, the Western media and academia will always give more credit to a sympathetic Westerner who visits than someone who has actually been forced to live within the system. See: Soviet Union. See: Red China. See: Cuba. See: Iran. See: Baathist Iraq.
Or in English, "advise".
And here is the reply to that article by Human Rights Watch's Executive director, Kenneth Roth:
https://nacla.org/node/5369
Viva la citations!
Michael Moore's closer to the Old Country Buffet than he is the facts.
Ask him how capitalism has worked for him, with his estate in Michigan and his NYC penthouse.
You must be swigging plenty of Neutral Light to say something that absurd. Oliver Stone slammed him in W.
I wasn't touting Moore's veracity except, obviously, in the context of this place.
@MikeH. The only party I belong to is that of humanity. My concern for people knows no boundaries, no stripes, colors or flag. I was born a christian, and unlike most of the fake christian in name only types out here, I don't believe in hate, violence, advocating bombing and death and greed and all the millions of things Americans do to justify their lust for wealth and power while living miserable lives.
Well, it's an opinion blog. Composed of conservative pundits. I will readily concede that.
Michael Moore essentially makes movies that are 2 hour long op-ed pieces.
Well, it's an opinion blog. Composed of conservative pundits. I will readily concede that.
Michael Moore essentially makes movies that are 2 hour long op-ed pieces.
You're a joke.
"I don't believe in hate, violence, advocating bombing and death and greed and all the millions of things leftists do to justify their lust for wealth and power while living miserable lives."
There, now it fits. And don't you dare call yourself a Christian. You insult the real Christians on here and all around the nation.
You have to really admire someone who uses the words "substance" and "gravitas" in their name but can't tell the difference between an OPINION column and a NEWS story.
The way Leftists use the language gets more outrageous and transparent every day.
I believe in dolphin free tuna and little puppies. You're a person just waiting to be rolled in a dark alley.
I suppose you have to make dubious decisions (like lying) when you're a failing one note director of films that have been irrelevent for many years, if ever really relevent at all. Lets face it, he's no John Ford. All that's left for Stone is to pander to his shrinking base of useful idiots, so he stoops to betraying his country for professional considerations.
Sort of how a bunch of posters decrying the "evil" actions of the Republic of Georgia came about around the time Russia launched its invasion of Georgian territory?
Kind of interesting how more than a few seemed to keep omitting definite articles in their postings…
Well, did the movie call for GWB to be drawn and quartered? If not, that's "neutral" to folks like Jose…
Colombia… Not Columbia…
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