ZoNation: The Fall of America

You are right – I'm sick of actors who wave guns around on the big screen to earn big bucks then are anti-gun.

However, what you said in jest is truth. They do start wars for profit. You think they care about Americans, though? No, the one's profitting from these wars are not American in any sense of the term even if they hold US citizenship. So your observation that OUR economy not doing well does not dispute the point. Why not look who IS doing well…..Goldman Sachs and those types.

And you went WAY off the reservation with the comment Bush "dispatched our military to protect our freedom." Our freedom was NEVER under attack by ANYTHING other than our government. He didn't dispatch them to protect us either – as evidenced by allowing 10+ million invaders walk across the border from Mexico.

The irony is that in the society that people like Sean Penn and Matt Damon would like to create, they'd be the first ones to be imprisoned and silenced.

Yep Red, I agree. Once the purpose for the useful idiots is over they will be "dispatched" post haste. No longer needed. RIP and all that. The idiots working towards this ideologue have no idea of what is in store for them, whether from their puppet masters or the America Public. Either way they lose.

What does the movie Avatar and the Obama administration have in common? Check out the cartoon at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/category/libert... to find out. It's worth a look.

I like how Zo holds his remote control sideways. Is that because he is Black? Why do they hold their guns sideways – just another thing they stole from White people….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-cchFuSvo

I miss the innocent days when Sean Penn played Spicoli on "Fast Times…". Mr. Hand would not be amused by his recent antics!

Well, I am glad to see the others recognized your foolishness for what it is, but since it appears that no other has yet refuted you and I believe you deserve a response, here it goes.

"They do start wars for profit."

Who is the nebulous "they" we are talking about? And what wars for profit have they started? Because Iraq and Afghanistan are certainly not such examples if that is what you are insinuating, and no matter how much you talk that will not change the facts, no more than revisionist historians and pacifists pinning responsibility for WWI on a shadowy group of war profiteers or capitalists across national lines actually shifted said responsibility away from the real perpetrators.

"You think they care about Americans, though?"

Depends on who you are referring to.

"No, the one's profitting from these wars are not American in any sense of the term even if they hold US citizenship."

So I suppose sucking away the ranks of those who- if left in peace to scheme and plot- would doubtless follow the first waves of their comrades in attacks on American soil somehow doesn't benefit Americans and the rest of the world? You have an obscenely idiotic view of benefits and costs, in that case.

" Why not look who IS doing well…..Goldman Sachs and those types."

Blame the bailout and the stock market then.

"And you went WAY off the reservation"

I do not believe that term means what you think it does.

"with the comment Bush "dispatched our military to protect our freedom.""

How so?

"Our freedom was NEVER under attack by ANYTHING other than our government."

That would be REMARKABLY funny if it were not for the facts that A. I've heard that claim thousands of times before and B. it is so much more effing TRAGIC than it is comedic.

So, where were you on 9/11, or during the previous attack on the WTC, or the USS Cole, or the African embassy bombings? Do you REALLY think the Islamists who have sworn our destruction are magically not a threat? Were the Japanese who bombed us also not a threat? What about the Germans who murdered us on the high seas or conspired against us in Latin America and elsewhere? And what about the Soviet Union, which dueled the defenders of this Republic for the EIGHTY TWO YEARS?

Face it: while government is a threat, it hardly was the only or even the most important one. If you cannot see that, than you obviously haven't studied history.

"He didn't dispatch them to protect us either"

So I suppose the AEF sent to France and Italy in WWI or the US forces dispatched to New Guinea and North Africa or to Korea were not sent to tie down the enemy elsewhere and thus protect American safety, but just to waste money and blood while making a profit for the nebulous and unnamed military-industrial complex? It's called Grand Strategy, Randy. Learn it or drown and cease to burden us with your ignorance.

"as evidenced by allowing 10+ million invaders walk across the border from Mexico."

I must state that this was not one of the issues I was very happy with Bush about. However, that is a logical fallacy.

For one, when have the Mexicans- even the effing Cartels- ever crossed the border to strike the heart of the United States while killing almost 3,000 Americans in one sitting? When have the cartels ever declared their dedication to annihilate our way of life in its entirety and to convert us all to X or kill us? They HAVEN'T. They are thugs. Thugs we need to crack down on more, yes, but hardly an international threat waging a holy war upon us. If you cannot discern that very basic difference amongst our allies, please don't bother us with your ignorant analysis.

Why do they have to kill 3000 "at one sitting" and not just over a year?

When have the cartels ever declared their dedication to annihilate our way of life in its entirety and to convert us all to X or kill us?

The very fact you are chasing ghost that supposedly make such proclamations says a lot about your gullibility. It is the hallmark of a FALSE FLAG operation. No, the cartels simply do it. Actions speak louder than words.

That entire post made absolutely no sense and on;y barely addressed the multitude of refutations directed at your first post. You FAIL at life randy. Stop smoking pot.

Randy is a seething pot of "9/11 truther" / Jew/Israeli hater / tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

It quite a potent brew. I gotten him grounded at home, his X-Box taken away and detention at his "special" school.

He's wacky but he slips a point in there every once in a while.

I remember when wearing tinfoil meant you were going trick or treating as the Tinman or a Knight.. not sitting in your mothers basement waiting for the Cylons to destroy humanity.

I think I'm so sick of HOllywood and actors that it has actually affected my desire to see movies. I haven't seen a movie in a theater in over 6 months. I haven't watched a movie on my television in several weeks… Actually, I think it's been, overall, a positive experience.

Sad day for America.

Zo needs his own television show. Seems he could go on for hours, never missing a target. Love it!

Oh my word, THAT'S funny! Thanks for the link.

A challenge for Mr Sean Penn:
Will you renounce your US citizenship, and apply for a Venezuelan passport instead?

Am I the only one who thinks that he wouldn't do it?

Nothing to see here folks, just another uneducated liberal handing out kool-aid. Move along. This "person" doesn't even realize that the extreme profits of "Goldman Sachs and those types" are due to the market manipulating and unconstitutional melding of the Democrats, how could it possibly understand something as complex and important as National Security in a global era.

Thanks for telling the truth ( a rarety in today's corrupted media) Love your presentations, full of energy, truth and like it really is.

penn and damon are part of hollyweird's "hypocrite club." It is all a pr gimmick to appear to be such social and moral conscious creatures, make more $$$$ and not be harrassed about the millions they are over paid for doing something most anybody can do, "act." They prey on the same simpletons that this administration is raping for their power and $$ gains, which unfortunately, numbers too many of our current population.

They would both lose $$ and freedom under ther dictatorships that they promote but that does not stop them from promoting their prepared nonesense to feed to the simpletons after all with so many simpletons to feast on business is great !!! That is why there has to be a hell !!!!!!!!