Celebutard of the Week – Sean Penn
by Andrea Peyser
He’s the gift who just keeps on giving.
This week’s featured Celebutard already figures like an incurable disease in my new book, “Celebutards: The Hollywood Hacks, Limousine Liberals and Pandering Politicians Who Are Destroying America” (Kensington). He is Sean Penn – the A-list actor who brazenly broke bread with America-hating Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. He also traveled to Iran where he heard 10,000 people shouting in unison, “Death to America’’ and “Death to Israel’’ – and decided they didn’t really mean it. Let’s give ‘em all a hug.
Proving he knows how to perform comedy, too, he and his enormous entourage traveled to New Orleans post-Hurricane Katrina, where they had to be saved after their boat sprang a leak. Penn was trying to prove that idiot actors can rescue people better than the US government. But who will rescue Penn?
Now comes word that Penn plans to play the bushy-headed Larry character in a biopic of the Three Stooges. Seriously.
Is Penn really that stupid? Or does he no longer care that he’s become a human laughing stock? Penn already is the very definition of a stooge. He’s been stooging for the likes of Chavez and nut case Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (say that five times fast, Sean) of Iran, traveling to their countries and championing regimes in which ordinary people regularly lose their freedom, livelihoods, and perhaps their lives, by speaking the kind of traitorous drivel Sean spews on a daily basis.
Of course, the role of Larry may be more challenging than Sean predicted. Larry Fine, who immortalized the Stooge, is a much better actor. He also played the violin.
But I would pay $50 to see a flick in which Penn gets slapped, eye-gouged, nose-tweaked and kicked by his fellow stooges. I’d pay $100 if these actions were all real. Nyuk nyuk.
As part of the tour to promote the movie, I suggest there be a national “Smack Sean Penn Day.’’ Maybe a frozen pie in the face?
Another rumor: Chavez is up for the role of Moe. Michael Moore is Curly.
Sean Penn. He’s the poster boy for a new take on an old expression: “Being a moron is easy. Comedy is hard.’’
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Actors feel as though no one takes them seriously becasue the make a living playing make believe all day. So they try to show just how serious and smart they really are by immersing themselves in politics and intrernational relations. All this does is confirm what we thought in the first place. Problem is that the media continues to provide them a forum and so there is no end in sight.
Once again Ms. Peyser a great idea. I have my money, now just give me the date and which line I should stand in!
Red-diaper baby vanguards are *SO* "adorable" when throwing their 'lil tantrums!
"[Hugo Chavez]'s much more positive for Venezuela than he is negative." — Sean Penn
Really, moron?!
Compare what happens to a Venezuelan critic of Chavez to your paranoid (displacement) criticisms of Bush.
Sean Penn is just another in the long line of liberals who think themselves intelligent and "deep" because they, and they alone are "nuanced". They dwell in a world of relativism and refuse to acknowledge objective truth. They think this gives them intellectual weight, and applaud each other for it. Penn is a sniveling little rat faced git, to quote the Python boys. And I love how this little pip squeak thinks he's a genuine tough guy. What I wouldn't give to have this little punk threaten or lay a hand on me. The best thing we can do is to ignore this puny bubble of anal wind, and avoid his "work" enitrely.
What many actors don't see is that the more active they become in politics the harder it is to accept them as a character in a movie. One's willing suspension of disbelief becomes impossible because the performer creates too much substance in themselves as individuals. One can't see Penn, Sarandon, Robbins etc. in a movie without thinking about their politics instead of accepting them as the character they are portraying.
Excellent article. I love the "Smack Sean Penn Day" idea. Can I be first in line? This idiot is beyond saving. He should be extradited to either Venezuala or Iran and his U.S. passport taken away once he gets there.
I think Mr. Obama would make a good Shemp. Penn can do some "method" acting and gain 50 pounds and be Curly Joe, not the real Curly. Hillary could play Moe with no trouble what so ever. As for the real Curly, I say let Soros play the role. Larry could be played by Waxman. I'd pay to see that movie.
Sean Penn is an idiot. Period. First off his only reason for saying what he says is that he thinks his daddy got the shaft because Daddy was committing treason by supporting Stalin's Soviet Union and got caught. BOO FRAKIN HOO!
Sean Penn? Frozen Pie to the Face? I am sooo there. Please keep us abreast of the upcoming tour dates.
sean penn is an overrated actor
So they are sure who his daddy was?
I'm a fan of irony. I think he should be sentenced to move permanently to Venezuala and/or Iran.
Seems like a classic case of the 'Napoleon Complex' to me.
He was great as Spicoli… it was all downhill after that.
Actually, the sad thing is that I've like him in several of his movies.
Um Dan Penn's father was a name named at the Huac proceedings. So yeah he did commit treason and he got what he deserved. And Sean is a POS.
I think the vitriol Ms. Peyser displays undermines any point she has. Wishing actual violence on Penn because of his kooky politics?
Jim…lighten up! Why do you libs take everything literally? Must be because you aren't programed that way!
Lighten up!!
So, what does Sean think of his friend Chavez now being able to become President for Life? Oh, that's right…he still thinks that the people really want to lose their freedom of speech, assembly, etc. Would Sean have been so quiet if during GWB's first term there was an effort to remove the term limits amendment?
Funny how you think I'm a lefty because I disagree. I've seen a reflexive reaction from the commentors on this site: dissent is to be squashed.
So, I would argue that you and the left have plenty in common.
make that commenters.
I've actually liked Sean Penn in a lot of his movies. He's also a vacuously dumb person, rather like Woody Harrison but without the frisson of evil that accompanies the hit man's son.
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Don't you sort of legitimize Penn's relevance when you consistently report on his doings? And none of you Palin advocates have a problem with the consistent use of "tard" in all this woman's posts. Sara Palin's daughter has just admitted her mom is a "tard," for trying to push abstinence on to teenagers. And we all know what kind of genes Ms. Palin's got (though I've been asked by some of your more angry readers not to keep mentioning it). Keep aiming high Big Hollywood!
Steve is right on. Big actors are small people. A Napolean complex of sorts.
Stop supporting the Israeli terrorists and the others would have no reason to hate us. At least the other nations have something to offer us instead of the parasites in Israel who always have their hands out.
I think Pulp wrote a song about people like Sean Penn. It went something like:
You'll never live like communist people.
You'll never do what communist people do.
You'll never fail like communist people.
You'll never watch your life slide out of view,
and then dance and drink and screw
because there's nothing else to do.
Sing along with the communist people
Sing along and it might just get you through
Laugh along with the communist people
Laugh along although they're laughing at you
and the stupid things that you do
because you think that Che is cool
I think Sean should spread the wealth and give all his money to the poor. Oh yeah I forgot, that only applies to the middle class, not Hollywood.
It's a gift – making every conservative comment or opinion somehow relate to Sarah Palin. If she's so despicable, perhaps the libTARDS should aim higher, no?
For the record I'm not angry, more like amused that your particular gene pool is so obsessed with her. Don't you ever wonder WHY?
I like Sean's acting, and I don't care what he says about politics. People are allowed to have kooky views, and can still be talented. Ronald Reagan once espoused the same views during his younger socialist days. Some people in my family think Sarah Palin is smart, yet I don't judge them harshly. I also enjoy the films of Mel Gibson, and he has some very kooky views. I leave the politics at home when I go to the movies. Sean's kooky views on Chavez would not get much publicity if not for the likes of the author of this piece.
Let's cut poor Sean a break, he grew up on the mean streets of Malibu Ca., the son of a film director. What could be harder and tougher than that? It was a long rocky road to success, what with having to ride in limos and eat at Hollywood bistros, THE GUY HAD IT TOUGH! He can empathize with that communist Chavez, they have SOOOO MUCH in common! Getting to see him get slapped as a Stooge is appealing on some level though…
Let's cut poor Sean a break, he grew up on the mean streets of Malibu Ca., the son of a film director. What could be harder and tougher than that? It was a long, rocky road to success, what with having to ride in limos and eat at Hollywood bistros, THE GUY HAD IT TOUGH! He can empathize with that communist Chavez, they have SOOOO MUCH in common! Getting to see him get slapped as a Stooge is appealing on some level though…
The Islamist terrorists will hav no reason to hate us? Really?
Then why did the Islamists invade Turkey, the Balkans, Austro-Hungaria?
Why seize shipping on the high seas and kidnap the crews?
Why sail to ireland and Britain and kidnap slaves?
Why terrorize the middle east in such a manner as Heberon in 1924?
I encourage you to relook your position.
What makes me angriest about Sean is that while he's pissing on America, he's hiding behind her at the same time. Just once I'd like Mom America to kick that bastard into the middle of Iran without an American passport and let him find out how long his little wee-wee could squirt before he'd get a hatchet to the head.
Sean Penn was married to Madonna, thus I am sympathetic to his pain.
"speaking the kind of traitorous drivel Sean spews on a daily basis."
What a brave soul, taking a stand against Sean Penn. Those dowdy proclamations lack the clear thinking and sobreity like that of Steve Dunleavy. Then again, that prose is as close as anyone at the Post will get to sounding like Shakespeare.
I guess it makes sense for Sean Penn to play a stooge since he has been one in real life for dictators like Castro and Chavez.
He was lucky to have a limo! A fella I know had it tough. He had to get up at 10:30 in the morning, fly to work in a jet, take 11 hours to do 35 minutes of actual work at the studio, get paid five million dollars a month, and when he got home his dad would slice him in two with a bread knife.
I seem to recall the Brits doing the same things. How were the grenadiers not terrorists? This notion of calling anyone you don't like a "terrorist" has gotten out of hand.
How can you not consider Sean an expert on all things political and wordly? He attended Santa Monica college to study auto mechanics. Impressive, no?
Too easy. It could be Sean Penn any week!
Princeton University's WordNet has a good definition of terrorism: "The calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear "
That pretty much describes radical Islam.
He's back!..
Twerp.
Much unlike the Palestinians, right? I'm sure that if Israel were not a Jewish, nothing would change, right?
Much unlike the Palestinians, right? I'm sure that if Israel were not a Jewish state, nothing would change, right?
Three Stooges movie? Oh, I'm there. I don't care how many libtards are in it.
Describes the actions of the IDF as well.
BINGO!!
Penn has original ideas. What exactly do you have Peyser? Other than misery and hate?
I wouldn't pay a nickel to see Sean Penn in anything.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
Please be precice, which unit of the Grenadier Guards, and it what actions were designed to use violence and terror to influence the civil populous by instilling fear and using coercion?
How is it being applied to the IDF?
Do the IDF use bobms to influence the civil populous and not in regard to conventional targets?
Does the IDF use beheading of civilians to intimidate?
Please cite examples.
Jim, what ideas are those? I've listened to his ideas and found them to be old and tired, flat out wrong or just plain insane. They don't work. Most of his great ideas are out of his ass, because that's where his head is.
Uh….what??? You don't call Penn's "ideas" misery and hate???? You have a silly notion of what an original idea vs. misery and hate is….
"I’d pay $100 if these actions were all real. Nyuk nyuk"
Nyuk nyuk is the 1930's equivalent of: j/k, <grins>, <wink>, or various smiley emoticons.
It indicates Ms. Peyser was just making a joke, Stooge style.
Mr. Penn on the other hand has a history of "going Stooge" on papparazi, spouses, etc in a much less nyuk nyuk way. Moe never left a mark nears as I can recall. The same can not be said of Sean.
SUMMARY:
"News item about Sean Penn out today. Re-post same things we've been whining about regarding Sean Penn for 12th or so time this month."
He may not be a "lefty", per se. He may just be contrarian.
I just had to watch Dead Man Walking in religion class (it's an ethics and morality class). Penn was playing a poor death row inmate, and Sarandon a nun–his spiritual advisor. I thought it was actually a good movie, seeing as it gave equal gravity to both the pro- and anti- death penalty arguements.But the thing that really got me was that I couldn't take them seriously anymore. I knew going in to the movie where they stood on the whole death penalty issue, thus making any anti-death penalty rhetoric meaningless within the movie, and I knew where they stood on every other issue, so no matter what they said–be their point valid and well-reasoned/presented or not–I just could not take them seriously.
It is a good movie though. Too bad both Penn and Sarandon are so hyper-political.
"Now comes word that Penn plans to play the bushy-headed Larry character in a biopic of the Three Stooges. Seriously."
I can't believe you guys aren't as pumped about this as I am. If there's a god in Heaven, it will be Alec Baldwin as "Moe" and Tim Robbins playing "Shemp".
The funniest thing about Penn is that he relies entirely on the protections afforded him by this here evil country to lash out at this country. In a way, he's a caricature of himself.
This is an extraordinarily blatant and weak attempt to pimp your book. Again. Do you really think the BH readers are that gullible? (And yes, I know you would never bother to read the comments here. After all, you're just selling books. Using the term loosely, of course.)
Uhhh…she has a book? I may or may not be that gullible, but I'm definitely not that observant.
The role he nailed was playing a retarded man who was trying to win custody of his son. The name escapes me right now but he WAS convincing.
Heh. Fair enuf. Tho' its right there in the second sentence: This week’s featured Celebutard already figures like an incurable disease in my new book…
Andrea is also nice enough to provide a link to her Amazon page. Just like she did the first time around. That the book is currently Amazon's 9,854th best seller?
Heh.
I’m really proud of myself. The last movie I saw with Penn was Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
I’m boycotting these idiots and their movies.
Figures, a movie about the Stooges is something I'd like to see, but now that Penn is in it I won't. Can't stand the idiot. Speaking of Chavez, isn't anyone concerned yet that Obama is going to try the same thing, or at least do what FDR did during the depression and continue to run? No doubt if we're still in financial trouble eight years from now (and the Dems are doing everything they can to make sure we are) Obama will try for a third term. The problem with guys like Penn is that they support the idiots like Chavez who are obviously bad for their countries, they give legitimacy to thugs, while they trash descent individuals like George Bush. During Bush's first term the Dems were all concerned that Bush wouldn't step down after a second term due to 911, war etc…. What they don't understand about Republicans is that we actually hold traditions and laws and the constitution in high regard, we don't subvert laws and lose our morals in order to gain and hold and control power. Remember, Richard Nixon conceded to Kennedy when in fact he probably could have won the election had he pressed, while Gore wouldn't give up for months even after he clearly was defeated.
Anyway, too bad the dbag is going to be in the Stooges movie, that ruins it for me.
Horse Pucky. Name me on IDF suicide bomber. I know you think if you say it often enough it will become true.
Truth stands on it's own no matter what you say.
What the heck are you talking about? Have you seen a shrink recently? What "this women" are you talking about. And what kind of genes does Ms. Palin have? What does keep aiming high mean? In relation to what? My god please make a coherent statement. Has your BDS morphed into PDS or is it just PMS?
I don't know why I am bothering with this Lodo (meaning lower down the food chain I suppose) strikes me as the type who never comes back because they can't take the heat much less have a good faith discussion.
If I had a buck for every time one of my teenage kids called me a tard…
I always make sure and consult them on moral issues. We all know the bottomless pit of moral wisdom that is the teenage mind. So when a reporter asks a conservative's child whether they think their parent is a
"tard" for their conservative views, the only "tard" in the room is the reporter.
If I had a buck for every time one of my teenage kids called me a tard…
I always make sure and consult them on moral issues. We all know the bottomless pit of moral wisdom that is the teenage mind. So when a reporter asks a conservative's child whether they think their parent is a "tard" for their conservative views, the only "tard" in the room is the reporter.
That is the purpose of any military action. That is why the distinction between military action and "terrorism" simply by how well they are funded is absurd. Yeah, dropping napalm on people isn't terrorism…..right?
What difference does it make if it is a suicide bomber or a bomb from an airplane that wipes out your family?
The IDF primarily targets civilians. They are far too cowardly to confront any military and were turned back by irregular Lebanese militia! No, they like to act tough bulldozing homes – especially when only women and children are around.
I'm not concerned because Obama has to win a second term first. That's not a given.
Hence the attacks on Palin.
Because one is done to specifically target innocents and the other is collateral damage in self defense from the states and organizations that send suicide bombers out. The IDF does everything in their power to avoid civilian casualties. If the terrorist organizations would quit using innocents as shields there would be very little collateral damage. Yet the Palestinians would just as soon have their own killed as Israelis. Makes for great propaganda as you well know that's why you constantly use it.
That may be your reason for military action. It certainly was Hitler's. But, for the civilized world you assertion is Horse Pucky.
guys, it would be helpful if someone would post a list so we all know in which occupations people should not express political opinions. i'm sure it's more than just actors, right? painters? lawyers? dentists? who else? and should outspoken republican actor chuck norris shut up too? if so, who is going to tell him?
Celebutard of the week? Take his name out of contention. Remember there are only 52 weeks a year. Penn and 3 or 4 others could easily win 15 times a year. Given your audience knows Penn is a 'tard how many times will they read to find out how he earned the title yet again? Perhaps, you could have a category and blurb to acknowledge their constant 'specialness' but not actually give them the coveted Celebutard so often. It's not that they don't deserve it but we deserve to know how stupid the others are. Thanks, Bosco.
Oh come on now Andrea…Sean surely deserves Celebutard honors for longer than a week! Be fair!
Wow, that's very enlightening. I must have been ignorant of all the information out there that demonstrates Israel's inept and crude military, or their ineffective intelligence agency. All this time, I thought they were destroying Syrian nuclear reactors or raiding the homes of bomb makers, when they were actually just blowing their American-funded technology and ordnance on the indiscriminate killing of women and children! I mean, if someone gives you a sniper rifle, you use it like a shotgun, right? It makes total sense! What I useful idiot I was!
Have you guys thought of renaming this column "Two Minute Hate"? Just a thought….
If they primarily target civilians, then why would they not just casually vaporize a local Lebanese militia with no regard for collateral damage? The IDF would just call in some coordinates for some F-16's during their evening tea. IDF wouldn't even have to show up. Or they could just carpet bomb the whole place. No regard for civilian life, right?
What only two minutes? You guys got 8 years and counting. Just a fact…
P.S. ellipses have 3 periods, you know like a hockey game
You realize of course that Penn and Sarandon don't make up their own dialogue, and that whatever their characters were saying was not the same as what the actors might say.
Oh, wait. This is Big Hollywood. You probably don't realize that.
Leo Penn was an officer and a bombardier in the Air Force during World War II. But because some grandstanding politician couldn't force him to name the names of people he knew who were communists — or liberals — in the 1930s, you claim he committed treason. You can't slander the dead, so you're off the hook for this disgusting, ignorant, malicious lie. But maybe you should try to learn a little more about people before you start accusing them of capital crimes.
True! He will forever live in my heart and soul as the surfer dude in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" ( I believe it was). Wonder if he called Chavez, "Dude" when he visited? What a piece of work!
When some turd runs around the world espousing hate on his own country, the one incidentally that made him rich, he opens himself up to criticism.
I think the rest of us have every right to be offended at the hypocrisy. If the man really believed his own words, he would move to Venezuela and leave the rest of us alone. Whats sad is that he has ANY credibility.
Point conceded. You want to pick nits, well, postscripts are generally structured like proper sentences, with periods at the end and such. But thanks. Too bad you couldn't give Mr. Bush lessons in usage… (note properly constructed ellipsis, with three periods…)
When Sean Penn didn't believe that the Iraq war was just, he headed there to visit for himself. Rather than just babble the words of ditto-headed Fox Newstards, he investigated and formed his own opinions. Even if you disagree with his assessment of the situation, shouldn't you give him credit for taking the time and effort to get involved? Isn't that what a good American SHOULD do?
Guess what? Sean Penn was right about one thing: The war was unnecessary, unjust and resulted in hundreds and thousands of innocent lives lost.
Likewise, your smug and idiotic comments about Sean Penn's VOLUNTEER work in New Orleans is very telling. I thought right wing tools are always glad-handing themselves about PRIVATE charity. Sean Penn was a private citizen who devoted his time to helping people in need. What did YOU do to help?
You might want to be careful about liberal use of the word "moron". You write a Hollywood blog for a living.
"… OF THE WEEK"? Dude, I think you've shortchanged him a few years…
I'm sorry, I'm up for a good Sean Penn bashing as much as the next guy, but what was the point of this? If there was something he did this week that caused him to be singled out, fine, but because he might have interest in playing a comedy acting role? Seriously? As if being Spiccoli wasn't enough for life?
I'd really hate to see this site reduced to random bashing of idiots just because we don't like them. If you wait five minutes, I'm sure Penn will actually give you a new reason to mock him. Until then, can we talk about current events, please? It's not like there isn't enough going on to fill the space.
It's not that actors are speaking out, about all their perceived injustices in the world, it's that the painter, layers, and dentist are not given the same platform to express their opinions.
Apparently I got a touch of precognition in featuring Spicoli as one of the three (communist) stooges in my Triumph of Tim Robbins' Will video last year .
FWIW Larry/Penn is at 4:06 when you click on my name link.
You got that right! Look at Ahnold, that buffoon who is now the "Acting Gov" of California has ruined it!
And the hate rolls on. Eight years and counting…
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"Even if you disagree with his assessment of the situation, shouldn't you give him credit for taking the time and effort to get involved? Isn't that what a good American SHOULD do?"
Uh, no. The clown gleefully volunteered to be used as a propaganda tool of an enemy of the United States. His "investigation" involved going on a guided tour led by the bloodsoaked henchmen of a mass-murdering butcher and then declaring that the he didn't see any mass graves while on the Small World After All ride.
Ted Turner infamously told Wolf Blitzer that there were no labor camps in North Korea because he didn't see any while staying there as a guest of Kim Jong Il. What a bold, courageous liberal speaking truth to American imperial power Mr. Turner is.
So you want to give this anti-American stooge props for undermining America's security interests while defending one of the most monstrous regimes of the past millenium in the process? Go right ahead. Speaks volumes about you and your fellow ideologues.
HAHAHA…the enemy of the United States that you mention once gassed his own people. In response, The Prevention of Genocide Act of 1988 unanimously passed the US Senate just one day after being introduced. Ronald Reagan, the real actor clown, VETOED it. We did nothing about mass graves as long as Iraq was fighting Iran and protecting our oil supply. So careful stepping down off that high horse Vjay.
Sean Penn is just a private citizen who happens to be an actor. Go google the picture of your mass-murdering butcher shaking hands with Donald Rumsfeld. This Bush appointee half wit later allowed Iraqi national treasures to be looted at the very time that we were trying to win hearts and minds. "Stuff happens". You are worried about propaganda? Bush's fake cowboy bluster "bring 'em on" probably cost us soldiers' lives.
All that came out of the Sean Penn propaganda was a bunch of right wing loons inventing "Freedom Fries".
By the way, Ted Turner is not Sean Penn. You fact challenged Foxtards always seem to get your people and facts mixed up. Here is what Ted Turner said to Wolf Blitzer: "We went, we visit, drove through the countryside quite a bit to get down to Panmunjom and Kaesong. We traveled around. I'm sure we were on a special route, but I don't see, there's really no reason, North Korea's got enough problems with their, with their economy and their agriculture."
Um, do you see the part where he acknowledges that they were on a "special route"? At least my fellow ideologues know the difference between reality and flag waving war mongering.
I'd like Ole' Penn to explain away the TRUE (almost 100 year record) of the war mongering Democrats:
WWI – Woodrow Wilson – 2 term Dem
WWII – FDR – 4 term Dem
Korea – Truman – 2 term Dem
Vietnam – JFK – well you know but still a Dem
Iran Hostages and botched rescue – Carter – 1 term Dem
Somalia, Bosnia – Clinton – 2 term Dem
Hey Cybesq:
I'd like Ole' Penn to explain away the TRUE (almost 100 year record) of the war mongering Democrats:
WWI – Woodrow Wilson – 2 term Dem
WWII – FDR – 4 term Dem
Korea – Truman – 2 term Dem
Vietnam – JFK – well you know but still a Dem
Iran Hostages and botched rescue – Carter – 1 term Dem
Somalia, Bosnia – Clinton – 2 term Dem
Yeah Sean Penn is very enlighted on Global Events. And so what if he went to Iraq??? I've driven through Kansas and I'm still not a farmer! And I've lived in SoCal for years and I still don't own any Birkenstocks….
I've never understood how Penn makes a living. Maybe he gets payments from Chavez for his support.
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Refusing to name people who are very likely trying to infiltrate the country in order to prepare a coup d’état against a democratic government can be regarded as an act of treason.
My favorite photo of Penn will be when he is swinging from a noose and dangling in the wind with vultures crapping on his head.
True story:
I was working on MTV's 'Legends' when they honored Metallica. It was right after SP's big trip to Iraq where he pronounced life under hussein to be rainbows and marshmallows. I had a look at the audience before the show. It was all black t-shirts, tattoos and piercings. About what one would expect for a metal concert.
What I didn't expect was what happened when SP was introduced. He intro'd the band (he and Lars Ulrich are close friends). Those kids were booing so loud that his intro couldn't be heard over the pa. That made my day.
In the broadcast version, the booing was replaced with generic crowd noise recorded earlier.
This is incorrect. The IDF DOES NOT primarily targetcivilians, unless your definition of civilian includes all armed individuals who serve in Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah. Regarding the notion that they were turned back by irregular Lebenese militia – does that include the Hezzies who were firing ATGM and RPG at their vehicles as they advanced while wearing civilian clothes?
How does securing all objectives include "Being turned back?"
Regarding the act of bulldozing homes. if the home is used as a battle position or a factory for producing IED, it deserves and by the rules of war may be- bulldozed to prevent the enemy from using it in like fashion.
Regarding having women and children in them, why are they there after being given warnings? Why did those same women and children allow their homes to be used in support of Hamas and Hezbollah?
Because great care is taken by the targeteers supporting the IDF to minimize impacts on the civilians living in the area in order to prevent loss of life amongst civilians.
Hezbollah, Hamas, fatah etc all attempt to MAXIMIZE carnage amongst the civilian population. (Bombing Sbarro Pizzaria etc) rather than attempting to bomb IDF facilities.
There is a GREAT Difference. If you cannot understand the difference I recommend a course of study in Aquinus Just War theory.
Incorrect. It is NOT ehe purpose of any military action. The only person I have ever read that supports your theorem is Mao's position.
Once again, please refer to "Just War theory."
Dropping napalm on people is designed to destroy their capability to conduct war.
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Don't forget Barack Obama in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sometimes Dems need to come in and fix the inevitable screw ups of Republicans. We could debate the merits of WW1 and WW2 but I hardly consider US involvement in those conflicts "warmongering". Likewise, I think we could debate the flawed thinking of the domino theory that brought about Korea and Vietnam (although Kennedy might very well have ended the war had he not been assassinated. I'll take his handling of the war over Nixon's any day).
The really funny example you cite is Carter. There are more botched helicopter accidents in Bush's tenure as President in one day than in the entire Carter presidency.
How many U.S. soldiers died in Somalia and Bosnia? ZERO.
Sean Penn is very enlightened on Global Events, particularly in comparison to the average citizen. I'll take Sean Penn's commitment to social issues over the vapid Paris Hilton or Bush loving Brittany Spears celebrity examples. When do they get mentioned as Celebutards? You don't need to be a farmer in Kansas to recognize a potato (note the lack of the letter E at the end). I've lived in So Cal for 20 years and I don't have any Birkenstocks either, but my brains are at the other end of my body. Where are yours?
Okay, I read the book, too. It was written by Sister Helen Prejean, and later adapted for film. And not by Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn.
I'm fully aware of the difference between "script" and "actors," I'm just saying that sometimes, actors are so overly political that it becomes a distraction. You're trying to focus on a movie and take it seriously, but you just can't. That's all.
You must be a real bad ass listening to Metallica in your cubicle. Sean Penn actually volunteered in New Orleans, helping people who were drowning and starving. You probably fetch coffee and only when asked a dozen times.
Sean Penn isn't pissing on America. He wants to make it a better country. You right wing trolls think anyone who criticizes America deserves the hatchet to the head. Colin Powell once started to point out that America was involved in the assassination of the democratically elected Allende in Chile. The Bush cronies almost fired him. They shut him up real quick. People like Sean Penn were on the forefront of this new change. It is so great to have a new president who stands as a rejection of everything wrong with this country for the last 8 years. Sean's wee-wee will continue to squirt on your Foxtard faces.
Really? Trying to rescue hostages is "warmongering"? That's the problem with you neo-con buffoons, you confuse demagoguery with common sense.
Everything you posted had someone else to blame for the Democrat Warmongering….
Here's some facts about Somalia:
The ambush and deaths of 25 Pakistani soldiers is what made the United States go after Aidid. Soon afterwards small skirmishes broke out. A HUMMVV was destroyed by a mine killing 4 American soldiers in it. In retaliation Aidid's headquarters were attacked.
The casualties sustained in Somalia could have been avoided if the military had a clear objective and the politicians in Washington would have given them a free hand. The first thing that went wrong is that Somalia was labeled a peace mission and thus the soldiers were lightly equipped. One month before the ambush in Mogadishu Gen. Montgomery asked for some weapons, 4 tanks, 13 APC's, and some artillery pieces. He was denied because President Clinton did not want to escalate things. Well, once the ambush took place the American troops were ill equipped to send in a rescue team, in fact troops from Malaysia brought their APC's to bring out the wounded. That battle cost the lives of 18 Americans. Afterwards Gen. Thomas received some 31 tanks, 48 APC's, and 8 artillery pieces. President Clinton, however, was still blamed. The father of a Ranger killed in Mogadishu refused to shake Clinton's hand after he received a medal for his son's bravery in battle. Some wounded soldiers refused to get their pictures taken with Clinton when he visited them.
Sad man
See you Republicans are great at being dittoheads (letting someone else think for you). It's actually called "plagarism" in this case. Here is the link to your pathetic cut and paste:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Camp/7624/Somal...
You Republicans also have very poor reading comprehension, because if you scroll down the page, you get to this sentence:
"It became more clear that the U.S. needed to go after Aidid and his men in order to bring peace to Somalia."
Your right wing neo con purple finger hypocrites were busy screaming at Clinton about a semen stain on a blue dress. Clinton ignored the cries of "Wag the Dog" and took action anyway. That's not warmongering, its called peace brokering. You are too dumb and dishonest to know the difference.
Of course it was a cut and paste – that's why it's in quotations – DUH! So I didn't give a hat tip – I figured facts were more important…..sue me Lib
The wag the dog momment came when he launched missiles into Afganistan…..would you like me to cut andpaste those facts for you?
Of course it was a cut and paste – it's supposed to be in quotations – DUH! So I didn't give a hat tip – I figured facts were more important…..sue me Lib
The wag the dog momment came when he launched missiles into Afganistan…..would you like me to cut andpaste those facts for you?
Of course it was a cut and paste – it's supposed to be in quotations – DUH! So I didn't give a hat tip – I figured facts were more important…..sue me Lib
The wag the dog moment came when he launched missiles into Afganistan…..would you like me to cut andpaste those facts for you?
Of course it was a cut and paste – it's supposed to be in quotations – DUH! So I didn't give a hat tip – I figured facts were more important…..sue me Lib
The wag the dog moment came when he launched missiles into Afganistan…..would you like me to cut andpaste those facts for you?
Actually I found a great article that reflects exactly what the problem is. Here is a post from a site in your favorites Cybesq……..a question that was posed when they shut down Hillary's Campaign office due to some nut who went violent. And true to form – Libs eating their own – they deleted the posting. The funny thing is that the header is still there – LOL!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/30/1524/459...
Hope and Change FOR GEORGE SOROS INVESTING IN BERNIE MADDOW
Well, you got that right. This new president certainly DOES stand as a 'rejection' all right. (Which accounts for Sean's wee-wee in his corner.) But as for Powell? Well, leave it to you to not understand him any more than you do Penn. Bush didn't keep Powell's mouth shut – no, no, no. Colin did that all by his own back-stabbing lonesomeness. Yup, the traitor kept that mouth of his damned shut for 3 years while he let an innocent Libby twist in the wind for a crime (outing Plame) that Powell's own staff had really committed. Yup, takes a real pisser to do that.
And Cybesq? Figures that a leftist troll like you would insist that urine can make a country 'better'.
Your knowledge of Somalia was limited to the first link that came up after a "Somalia" google. You forgot to "tip your hat" to someone whose name you don't know and whose opinion you cut and pasted as fact, without knowing anything about the credibility of the person who wrote it. Somehow I bet you think everything that "one-year-of-college-drop-out" Sean Hannity says is true too. Its "common sense". HAHAHA.
Thanks for correcting the record on the "wag the dog" situation. Even funnier. I guess it turns out that this Bill Clinton character may have been on to something about the threat from Afghanistan. Wonder why Bush ignored all those warnings for 9 months playing dress up cowboy on his fake ranch in Texas without looking into it?
George Soros has done more to bring about democracy in the world than Bush and his discredited neo cons. Of course, your knowledge of George Soros is limited to what you hear on talk radio and from random google searches.
Are you Sarah Palin? Just curious.
And there we have it folks – The trolling instigators who love nothing more than saying the exact opposite of what normal people say just to get a small spark of life in their normally droll and sad existance.
Good luck with all of that Cybesq…….wow – simply amazing.
In what country? You don't have a grade school level understanding of our Constitution.
Wow. Have you spoken to Patrick Fitzgerald about your Colin Powell theory??? You should get in touch with him right away. I am sure you would be one of many wackadoodles that he would LOVE to hear from. I'm sure the hours and hours of grand jury testimony are nothing compared to the tin foil hat signals that you are channeling with the real truth about Colin.
Where do you neo clowns come from?
Enjoy the next 8 years of Obama's Presidency. America has spoken. YOU LOST.
I am saying the opposite of what "normal people" say? Are you supposed be an example of a normal person? Just checking because so far in this debate you come across as a brainless turd who can't do any better than cutting and pasting information from a random website without a named author.
Here is what Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volker said about Soros:
"George Soros has made his mark as an enormously successful speculator, wise enough to largely withdraw when still way ahead of the game. The bulk of his enormous winnings is now devoted to encouraging transitional and emerging nations to become 'open societies,' open not only in the sense of freedom of commerce but—more important—tolerant of new ideas and different modes of thinking and behavior."
Is Fed Chairman Paul Volker a "normal person" in your tiny world view?
George Soros is largely credited with helping to defeat Soviet socialism in Eastern Europe. Here is what Neil Clark wrote:
"(t)he conventional view, shared by many on the left, is that socialism collapsed in eastern Europe because of its systemic weaknesses and the political elite's failure to build popular support. That may be partly true, but Soros's role was crucial. From 1979, he distributed $3m a year to dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union. In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media"
I would love to hear the "normal people" whose opinions you parrot. Of course, you never cite any actual sources because you don't know anything.
I am really get tired of embarrassing you here. Do you not get shamed by your own posted stupidity?
What makes me a real badass is not the music I listen to. It's how I carry myself. One question: Why is it when libs have nothing constructive to say they fall back on non-sequitors and personal attacks?
BTW: My cubicle is now an office with a nice view. Yes, I do fetch coffee…for myself. I would never impose upon my assistant to 'fetch' anything for me.
Oh, and since I was unable to go to NOLA during that time, I volunteered to work on the "Shelter From The Storm" telethon that was broadcast on most of the networks.
Wow that 's a huge amount of Cut And Pasted information….
Oh wait then you named the author….that's a big difference and you are very knowledgable……
Using fact from the web and using opinion are two different things and deserve two types of actions from those who use them. And yes I did cut and paste too much of that guys opinion in there I was going for just the KIA numbers. As I remember I was also talking on two other blogs at that exact time. I'm not a professional TROLL like you who does this for a living. In the future everytime you use some random fact – I'll be sure to call you out for not providing credit to the source of every bit of FACT that you ever type about.
And yes – you are NOT a "Normal" person. Anoyone with the desire to search out or have ready so much data on George Soros is not normal. Between your anger and venom – I definately pick up a little "Swooning" on your part when talking about "Dear Leader Sorors"
I thank you very very much for calling me stupid at the end there. I seriously could not ask for anything more that to have you PRAISE HIGH GLORY to Soros and then call me stupid. It's like you are Jeffrey Dahlmer and your calling me a dumb Vegitarian – I'll take that all day long – LOL!
Please say it ain't so. The great Three Stooges legacy being tarnished by Jeff Spacoli is an outrage. Is this "method acting" moron going to give Larry Fine an activist side? Damn them all to hell. America hating is bad enough, but letting these swine portray the Three Wise Men is sacrilige.
I guess a good example of what you are talking about would be a blogger calling someone an "idiot actor" and "Celebutard". Oh wait, that wasn't a liberal. You conservatives aren't even bright even to recognize the hypocrisy within the context of your own arguments.
But I see what you are saying. Let's congratulate those Metallica fans for booing the rich guy who could afford to do most anything, but got on a plane and spent a week helping hurricane victims. I guess as a cubicle commando, there is a soft spot in your heart for those black shirted tattooed pierced music lovers who spent their time looking at their cool ink in the mirror and held back tears thinking about the lyrics of "Nothing Else Matters."
Sean Penn never said that life under Hussein was marshmallows and rainbows, Pretty sure he said that we had no business going to war though. Too bad our Presitard lied about the reasons for going there in the first place.
Congrats on your promotion and self coffee serving, you sound like a real maverick.
Yeah you're all about facts Cybesq – Katrina was Bush's fault and he didn't do enough – Obama doesn't have one penny in his Pork Bill going towards Katrina relief or rebuilding.
And Bush Lied about the reason to go to Iraq – all by himself – noone else ever said the same stuff……right…..here you go smart guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk
Figured I'd like to see you dispell these facts even in their own words.
Yeah you're all about facts Cybesq – Katrina was Bush's fault and he didn't do enough – Obama doesn't have one penny in his Pork Bill going towards Katrina relief or rebuilding.
And Bush Lied about the reason to go to Iraq – all by himself – no one else ever said the same stuff……right…..here you go smart guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk
Figured I'd like to see you dispell these facts even in their own words.
Did you name yourself "Common Sense" as a joke? What does volunteering to help people in need have to do with Katrina being Bush's fault? You people are like the parrot that starts to spit out talking points before anyone even shows you the cracker.
Also it's not common sense to defend Bush by saying other people said the same thing. Guess what? We only have ONE commander in chief at a time. Bush lied to the American people, plain, simple, common sense.
I hope you enjoy President Obama for the next 8 years. No matter what you say, or blog, or babble, the truth remains: History will not be kind to President Bush. He was possibly the worst President in U.S. history.
Your proven record of being extreme for extreme sake is crystal clear. And even though I give examples of the long running rethoric from the Democrats prior to Bush making a decision means nothing to you. But why should it ? You are just happy that a Republican took a hit or two (wether real or perceived in your mind) – that is the extent of your ability to be aware. And when facts counter your "Happy Zone" of bad Republicans – you twist and spin to ensure that the fantasy that is your mind stays in tact.
You are simply the Mr. Roark of Liberal Fantasy Island and you won't allow a dumb Republican like me to ruin your relationship with Tattoo. "THE FACTS THE FACTS BOSS!) I mean facts and examples are for fools. LOL! I would expect nothing less from you.
And let's throw out my defense of Bush not being the only politician to suggest the dangers of Saddam – fine. Let's keep it specific to your comments of the glowing light that is Sean Penn the enlightened one (Swooon!) So Sean Penn is your bench mark of clarity, not Hillary, Dean, Bill, Schumer, Albright, Kerry, Kennedy, et al…..
It's funny you talk about Bush's legacy – here's a great article about that – enjoy – LOL!
http://www.anncoulter.com/
Good god you are thick. Republicans took more than a "hit or two", they've been entirely discredited and remain in political disarray. Maybe if you took your head out of whatever right wing closet you have it stuck in, you'd get a clue.
I love that your YouTube link is directly from the GOP and your second source is ANN COULTER. I'm the one living in some sort of political fantasy land???? I'm the extreme one??? HAHAHAHAHA
You can find all kinds of clips where Democrats talk about the dangers of Saddam Hussein. So what? The difference is that those people did not take us to war based on an ill conceived plan. Some of those comments are based on our assessment of Iraq when Saddam was being contained and managed. There are 8 Billion Dollars MISSING from our Iraq war expenditures. Bush and his cronies described an "imminent danger", mushroom clouds. It is now common knowledge that the Bush White House was cherry picking their intelligence to make a case for war . Your laughable GOP created clip montage doesn't even begin to suggest that any democrat had the same intelligence and would have prosecuted a bungled war. Go google the word Bush and "Curveball" and educate yourself beyond your right wing comic book sources. Go rent "No End in Sight" and treat yourself to some normal people's intelligence. There are all kinds of "normal" BUSH APPOINTED people in that movie that discuss Bush's absolute incompetence in connection with this war.
I promise you that your ANN COULTER version of facts is not how the Bush legacy will end up in history books. Coulter is the same person who wrote a book suggesting that Joseph McCarthy, the discredited red baiter, who died a lonely bitter heroin addict, was simply misunderstood. Again, not the way it's gonna go down in history no matter how many books the crazy lady writes.
Again, you have reading comprehension issues. I never said anything about Sean Penn being my benchmark of clarity. Just the contrary. I described and defended him as a private citizen who deserves credit for doing volunteer work for people in need (you know, values that Republicans talk alot about as they stick their hands in other's people's pockets).
You really make me sick. There are too many of you running around and our country continues to suffer from the lack of informed people. Fortunately, enough people voted for change. I guess you must think more than half the country is extreme and abnormal.
And you think we spin stuff – wow! First try this – different angle showing the differences in your leaders and how they blow in different directions based on Political Expediency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVZlLBchVE
Once for war then against…..typical professional politicians – we need term limits across the board up, down , and back and forth.
And trust me when I say I that the GOP is not mine – they disgust me due to their lack of conviction and follow through regarding true conservative principals.
And Ann is entertaining and does offer fact to back up her points – it's funny how a self loving blogger like you is deemed to have a better understanding than her who has multiple Best Sellers. Funny how you just disregard any of the facts that are posed to you…..but that's what your side does. And regarding half the population being "extreme and abnormal" – not at all – I would say that half of the Obama voters were extreme and abnormal and the other were played by the likes of you, your fellow extreme progressives/socialists, Keith Olberman, Mathews, Maddow, the MSM and the DNC.
Other than that – THANK GOD there are as many of me running around with facts and historical comparisions or we'd all be under a real hammer and sicle by now.
You are a trolling divisive sad little person who is so twisted that fact means nothing to you anymore – you think it and therefore it is…..sad.
You can't even post in the right place so let me help you. What facts and historical comparisons are in your posts? I've pointed out about a dozen times that your knowledge was limited to someone else's website that you blindly copied and pasted. Your other "facts" are GOP created film montages and right wing hack editorials. Do you even know the difference between research, articles, and editorials?
Also funny how your research consists of Republican produced YouTube postings. Those are not factual and they don't count as research or facts. They are out of context propoganda clips, small shiny tidbits for dumb people who can't read books or think for themselves.
As for Ann Coulter, it is hilarious that your lack of critical thinking leads you to equate "best sellers" with knowledge or ability. Lots of people by Big Macs too. Ann Coulter was fired from the conservative National Review and from USA Today. No one with any brains takes Ann Coulter seriously. She throws red meat to right wing trolls and they buy her books. The "facts" that she uses to back up her points are usually as flawed as her opinions. Go read some reviews of her books by people who don't drool.
I really don't have time to educated you. I think you've pretty well identified yourself as a Hannitized moron. Hope you are not going to spend the next 8 years hiding under your bed worried about the hammer and sickle (which you can't even spell).
Wow! based on my bad typing (wirelesskeyboard LOL!) and your notice of it – I would think you must be one of the Liberal Professors that we hear much about – LOL! Whatever snapperhead. You sure are hostile with a keyboard – but just like a Lib – all talk no action – and yet again, other than your talking points from Move On DUH Org about Ann Coulter (who is meaningless in the big picture) you avoid facts that you cannot deal with – after this long history of discusion, all you have is my grammar and that Ann was fired….LOL!
As much of a dumb ass as you like to think I am – if that's so – then why can't you counter every point I've brought up? LOL! You have been getting your ass kicked by an illiterate with dead batteries in his keyboard – LMAO!
LOL! oh and regarding the "Propoganda YouTube Clips" – OMG! You are such a Kool Aid Gulping Moron! Those clips had YOUR PROGRESSIVE LYING BACK PEDDLING LIBERAL LEADERS in their own words???????????????
Seriously – so now I guess the GOP is working with Dreamworks to make false lip synced clips of Dems – LOL!
Seriously – you are pathalogical!!!!
At a certain point, I just have to assume you really don't have the capacity with or without batteries in your keyboard or brain to understand simple concepts. You keep saying that I haven't responded to your points? What points have you made? YouTube is not a point. Being a Sean Hannity lap dog puppet is not making a point. Did I say that Dreamworks was manipulating the mouths of liberal leaders? Let me write to you in President Bush "My Pet Goat" style so maybe you can grasp some very basic truths:
1. Recognizing that Saddam was a threat is not the same as mismanaging a war. Anyone can take a bunch of sound bites and string them together. That's just lazy propaganda. Here is an example. Here's what Cheney said about invading Iraq after the Gulf War. Did Dreamworks change his mouth you imbecile?:
"So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him [Saddam] from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."
2. Agreeing to give President Bush the AUTHORITY to go to war, was not the same as giving him authorization to bungle a war.
3. Many Democrats supported the President after 9/11. Some were cowards who didn't want to look weak after a major terrorist attack. Did they change their opinions after they saw how Bush, Rumsfeld, and the other neo con jack asses bungled things? Absolutely. Were they being given misinformation from the Bush White House? Absolutely. Did Bush and company stoke the fire and gin up fears in the American public to get support for the war. Absolutely. Do you want to make you a little Hannitized video of Republicans like Domenici, Luger, Voinovich, who also reversed their support for the war.
Let's face it you dim bulb, the rest of the world and even major myopic Bush lickers now understand these concepts. You can keep posting your inane chatter, but the fact is, we have a new President, a complete rejection of the phony Republican agenda. The country is in shambles and it sure as heck isn't based on the policies of liberals. ENJOY THE CHANGE dip wad.
Is having a wireless keyboard supposed to be an excuse for being dumb? If your keyboard was wired and you had working batteries would it make you any smarter or cause you to make less mistakes?
Would you stop breathing through your mouth if you had the right kind of keyboard or you weren't posting on multiple blogs at the same time, blah blah, blah. You sure always have an excuse for the dumb things you do. I thought only liberals made excuses.
Other than you quote fo Cheney (which I didn't "Google" to understand contaxt or quality) everything you mentioned is OPINION!! OPINION!! OPINION!! Whilr you are very good at string togetherc oherent sentences based on sound – the content of them is weak and wanting. You take a general consensus of extreme progressives and then spout that as fact….and you say that I am Hannitized because I provide another view of your TOP 10 LEADERS in theri own words saying what they said.
And the point of that isn't because of their critical thinking of the management – it wqas expediency…..plain and simple.
"You can keep posting your inane chatter, but the fact is, we have a new President, a complete rejection of the phony Republican agenda." Complete rejection? So he can install Socialist Policy but can' immediately shut down Gitmo or pull out half of our troops from Iraq?……see, he is privey now to certain facts that he and the other looney left like you either are too "intelligent" to understand or too scared to want to admit…..there are tough things than need to be done to truly prtect this country (raising the munimum wage isn't one of those) and the arm chair Liberals like you and all the others love to be so clear about your perception and enlightenment – and you don't ever truly explain it with FACTS or even feel like you should have to – just hearing yourselves talk is all that you need in your world.
You really are like the Hybrid Drivers from that SouthPark episode….LOL!
Oh and just to stay consistant (and so I don't have to type in a transcript) here is a cut and paste….
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103216 – you'll have to click through a few – look for the episode called "Smug Alert" – LOL this is how I picture you – but it may be more like:
http://blog.stephenfowlersucks.com/ LMAO!
Well thank you again for teaching me things that I know nothing about – I have to try and dig for what your trying to say…..um I think I know…….oh no missed it….
Oh wait I got – in order to be included in your club I need to get an Obama T-Shirt and stop breathing through my mouth. I can only breath through my nose. Wow! How enlightening – I need to try and reduce my carbon footprint! Got IT!…..
The only excuses I've made (you Progressive Snapperhead) are based on my inability and desire to meet your grading curve on Blog Grammer – perhaps it means TONS to people like you – I simply don't care – I refuse to sit here and give a damn about I before E except after C….LOL! Yeah I think with a name like "BLOGGING" that the importance of grammatical perfection is what was in the minds of those that started it – now people like you with nothing more to do in their lives other than Hate Bush and BLOG – want to ensure that the typing skills of ALL THAT BLOG meet your self imposed importance and quality level of BLOGGING – LMAO! You are the same type of morons that would require criminals to smile for their mug shots!
What an ass!
Hey, what a coincidence. You remind me of a South Park character too. Mr. Hankey. A brainless floater.
Hey Genius. Do you see the inconsistency in saying that you didn't "google" the Cheney quote to understand the context or quality while presenting a clip montage of democrat sound bites that are likewise not researched or presented in context? Of course you don't.
You are like one of those wind up clapping monkeys with a big uninformed grin and cymbals. Hannitized through and through.
The information I gave you is FACTUAL, not opinion. I gave you a list of FACTUAL republicans who came to the same conclusions and the list is growing. Did you follow your homework assignment? Did you rent "No End in Sight" where Bush's own staff claim that he would never bother to read even ONE PAGE Iraq war policy briefs? FACT.
Do you see how I keep pointing out to you that even with some Democratic support for the war, that Bush was an utter incompetent in his role as Commander in Chief? Do you know why you keep avoiding that point? I think we both know why. You have no answer. Plain and simple.
FACT: Bush ran on the promise of fiscal responsibility and then tripled the national debt. FACT: With a Republican majority, Congress passed the largest budgets in U.S. history. FACT: President Bush borrowed more money from foreign governments than every other President in U.S. history COMBINED.
FACT: McCain Lost, Obama won. FACT; Republicans lost more seats in the House and Senate. Democrats contrrol Congress. FACT: Obama never campaigned or promised the immediate closure of Gitmo or pulling half the troops out of Iraq. It has nothing to do with any new "facts" he is privy too.
You should unplug yourself from your Fox News I.V. drip. It will take years to be deprogrammed from your puppet masters, but if you work REAL hard and read lots of books (ones that don't have pictures). you can get up to speed.
FACT: Bush ran on the promise of fiscal responsibility and then tripled the national debt. FACT: With a Republican majority, Congress passed the largest budgets in U.S. history. FACT: President Bush borrowed more money from foreign governments than every other President in U.S. history COMBINED. NONE OF THESE POINTS MEAN A THING WITH THE LATEST SOCIALIST BILL JUST PASSED BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY – You Libs own this one….although, I'd LOVE to hear your excuse for this – LOL! Oh wait….."It's Bush's fault" – LOL!
FACT: McCain Lost, Obama won. YEP-AND ALREADY PEOPLE ARE EQUATING THE BROKEN PROMISES TO THE LYING DNC – ONLY A MONTH – LOL! Bush took 4 years to become a lame duck president – your MESSIAH is one after 30 days ROFL!! And your two Elite Bishops of Democratic Rule have been complete failures at evrything for over 2 years.
FACT; Republicans lost more seats in the House and Senate. Democrats contrrol Congress. YEAH, SEE RESPONSE TO THE FIRST 3 POINTS – REID/PELOSI, BARRY??? What a dream team – if you were a Communist!
FACT: Obama never campaigned or promised the immediate closure of Gitmo or pulling half the troops out of Iraq. It has nothing to do with any new "facts" he is privy too. HE SAID GITMO RIGHT AWAY – IRAQ 16 MONTHS – so again – reinventing your own version of history….
I remember when I used to enjoy movies, but man, that was before 9/11 and a long time ago. I think they have finally lost anything resembling an 'edge'. They're still doing film about Nixon and Episode 3 of Star Wars was still inspired mostly by the politics of the same era. Sean Penn is probably been in one film I liked, guess which one. All those people at the awards seemed like they were all of the same sort of social standing, meaning they may as well all be given awards because they all think alike and are from the same crowd in the same rich part of town. I look at Sean Penn now and his face seems to remove all the joy in my life even when he's smiling, I can't explain it. I think he really believes he's running part of the world.
Still love Star Wars (Episode 4 as it's now called) by the way. That I can stand.
Have to agree with the last comment — even though most of India showed up at the end. Talk about Hollywood licking its own ass. All in all though the intense debate between the left and right (two dudes trying to speak for 80 million people) was so much more entertaining. And I am such a huge fan of Penn. He's a fantastic actor and I've worked with some great ones. His voice has become annoying to say the least. But ultimately his voice is what makes America … America. You dudes in your comando cubicles (fricken scary characters suckin up air out there, I'll tell ya' … wow!) can talk about commies all you want, but your obese flag waveing feet go right in your blow holes as soon as you start trying to squash anyone who has the freedom to speak … like, uhm let's say … HERE IN THE UNITED STATES! Idiots! Frickin' labotomy outpatients with a vote — god bless America.
Wow…..original. Couldn't you come up with something on your own? Like call me Ludicrous Lion from HR Pufnstuff – that's a canibis culture throw back – LOL!
Don't piggy back off of my chosen material – Remember, you're an elite. Act like one:
Step 1 – Fart
Step 2 – Smell fart
Step 3 Enjoy
Sniff SNIFF Cybesq – SNIFF SNIFF!
Were they being given misinformation from the Bush White House? Absolutely.
What, specifically? You are aware that there were Democrats on all committees, and received more or less the same briefings the President did (not necessarily at the same time, but they heard them). I always hear this argument from the Left, but have never heard a single report cited of anything they received that was "misinformation" from the White House (which is funny in and of itself, since the information never comes from the White House….it comes from the Intelligence agencies and the Pentagon). The Dems are in control of everything, so where is the investigation to finally divulge the "lies" the Left keeps telling us about?
What's really funny is that they constantly say Bush lied to Congress with facts only he knew, yet somehow they think bloggers and conspiracy goofs who search the net got the correct information. Just think about the inanity of that position…..
Have you taken a look at the Senate Intelligence Committee "Phase One" and the foot dragged "Phase Two" reports?
Here you go. Note that Pat Roberts is a Republican and was chairman of the Committee:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/sto...
"Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources."
"After the release of the report, Intelligence Committee, Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said they doubted that the Senate would have authorized the president to go to war if senators had been given accurate information regarding Iraq's programs on weapons of mass destruction.'I doubt if the votes would have been there," Roberts said. Rockefeller asserted, "We in Congress would not have authorized that war, in 75 votes, if we knew what we know now.'"
This information is out there and hardly coming from "conspiracy goofs". You are not going to hear this information on Fox though. I think if you do a little research, the "bloggers" who claimed that there was no connection between Saddam and 9/11 had it right. "Bloggers" were listening to people like Scott Ridder and it didn't take being a conspiracy goof. See if you think what Scott Ridder said PRIOR to war, sounds true to you:
"But the problem is, this war hinges on Iraq's possession or efforts
to reacquire weapons of mass destruction. If you listen to the rhetoric
that comes out of Washington DC — from members of the Bush
Administration — we have been told that 'They know Iraq has chemical
weapons. They know Iraq has biological weapons. They know Iraq is on the
verge of a nuclear weapons program breakthrough– within two years
Saddam Hussein will have a nuclear weapon that can threaten the United
States. They know Saddam Hussein is developing long-range ballistic
missiles.'
Now I'm just a simple Marine, but I'm here to tell you. When I hear
someone say, "I know something" that implies certainty of knowledge that
has to be based upon facts. So if they know, share the facts. Let us
know too. And they have failed to do so to date."
Sean Penn, Oscar winner. Andrea Peyser, Blogtard loser.
Based on everything you typed above, it is even more justifiable that we went.
What was known to the Administration ALONG with bad intel was some of the following:
We knew Saddam had killed thousands of Iraqi's with chemical weapons in his own country –
We knew that Isreal had previously bombed a nuclear plant in Iraq –
We knew he had enriched uranium already onsite and that it could be used to arm a weapon – while not the opptimum solution for a standard special weapon – he could've done this. And the contamination would have been smaller but equally deadly.
The UN was aware of standing yellow cake in Saddams possesion – the UN had repackaged it and documented it prior to the invasion. Part of the frustration is that Hans Blicks wanted to recheck that and Saddam told him no….This same Yello Cake has recently just made it to Canada due a Secret Gov Plan to get it out of the Middle East.
Additional ties were that after 9/11 the war on terror went after those that encouraged/supported terrorists. Saddam gave money to families who's members were suicide bombers.
So again, your repainting of history to make us the bad guys and your typical excuse making for truly BAD MEN is again stomach wrenching…..you are a whiny liberal with no spine but to argue against those who you know you're protected from – go talk this trash over there – I give you a week before you end up like Ron Pearlman or Nick Berg…..
Did Sean Hannity tell you that Hans Blix said he wanted to recheck and was denied? Why don't we look at Hans Blix's actual WORDS (not run through the FOX NEWS blender). By the way, his name is "Blix," not "Blicks" but I guess in your world of grammarless, wireless keyboard blogging being accurate about someone's name is just another time wasting technicality. You might actually learn how to SPELL things if you watched and listened to less YOUTUBE and right wing radio. Why bother? So much easier to let your puppet masters think and spell for you.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/tools_and_servic...
BLIX "Since we have arrived in Iraq we have conducted more than 400 inspections covering more than 300 sites. All inspections were performed without notice and access was almost always provided promptly. In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming."
"More than 200 chemical and more than 100 biological samples have been collected at different sites. Three-quarters of these have been screened using our own laboratory analytical capabilities at the Baghdad Centre (BOMVIC). The results to date have been consistent with Iraq’s declarations."
"Mr. President, In my 27 January update to the Council, I said that it seemed from our experience that Iraq had decided in principle to provide cooperation on process, most importantly prompt access to all sites and assistance to UNMOVIC in the establishment of the necessary infrastructure. This impression remains, and we note that access to sites has so far been without problems, including those that had never been declared or inspected, as well as to Presidential sites and private residences."
God, it just so much fun documenting what a gullible buffoon wingnut you are.
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