Audacious Environmental Hypocrisy: James Cameron – Grow Up
by Ann McElhinneyI thought Avatar was a great film, beautiful even. Cameron is such a good story teller he even had me rooting for the blue rain forest people and wishing death on all the appalling Americans in final battle scene.
But seriously, James Cameron grow up.
Avatar is an anti-mining, anti resource development rant worthy of a not very clever spotty undergraduate.

James Cameron is a self confessed unrepentant greenie, and in the world he creates mining is evil and life in the rain forest is just spiffing. So lets throw a few facts in the way of Cameron’s gorgeous but idiotic narrative.
Mining makes everything about James Cameron’s life and our lives in the developed world, beautiful, possible, bearable, majestic, gorgeous and full of promise. The people of the rain forest on the other hand who live the simple, organic, back to nature life so adored by the Hollywood elite such as James Cameron, also have short lives of misery, disease and squalor. They would do anything to have a piece of the James Cameron life and escape their subsistence hunter-gathering nightmare.
So James Cameron hear it one more time – Grow Up.
Mining companies bring jobs, roads, infrastructure, health clinics and opportunities to some of the poorest people on the planet.
James Cameron, even more than rest of us, uses the earth’s resources for his pleasure and his very profitable business. His films all employ enormous quantities of heavy metals in planes, boats, trains and the latest cutting edge camera, lighting and computer technology.
Everything about Cameron’s work uses metals mined from somewhere and his gigantic transport needs are fueled by oil.
So grow up James Cameron.
Having spent the most depressing two weeks of my life at the charade that was the Climate festival in Copenhagen I am particularly sensitive to the James Cameron idiocy. Like the 45,000 hyper-educated and pampered fools who attended that conference James Cameron bangs away on his computer objecting to mining and celebrating the indigenous life without ever realizing that the computer would not exist without mining.
So I have a suggestion James Cameron, go and live there, burn whatever passports you possess and do it, live it, be that guy who walks the walk with no escape route back to the unnatural but fabulous life of development. Go to the rain forest, try it and see just how awful it is to live without electricity, computers, roads and medicines that come with modernity.
Or if you don’t want to do that I have a suggestion.
James Cameron, please, please Grow Up!






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Grow up! Yes. Allow me to add to that, develop character, do not become one.
It's not that he has to grow up. He has to grow INTO something, namely a man. I see so little manliness in Hollywood. From Spielberg on, where are the men who used to make movies. Heck, Ida Lupino (multi-threat great) was more of a man than Cameron.
Conservatives who cry about Avatar need to grow up. How long are you all going to cry about a form of entertainment. Avatar is a movie, if you don't like it or its message ignore the movie and don't give it and the director more press.
One of the hallmarks of being an adult is the ability to enjoy a movie, but recognize that it is a work of fiction and that you don't have to support the actual message that the movie is putting out. I don't see anyone on this board writing op-ed after op-ed of how much they have Scarface, Goodfellas, and The Godfather because they champion criminals.
Character. Yes. Good call.
That's because Brian DePalma, Martin Scorcese, and Francis Ford Coppolla didn't go out and give INTERVIEWS championing criminals vs. Cameron who can't shut up about the environment (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhous... while he exploits/rapes it, with a carbon footprint larger than some countries, to make Titanic/Avatar.
And, in those movies you cited, no matter how "glamorous" they were portrayed, all the characters got what was coming to them – killed, jailed, betrayed, etc. The movies didn't "champion" them. At best, you rooted for a criminal against a worse criminal.
the Cameron- Avatar thing is becoming tiresome…
Yes, it is only a film. Yes, it is mind numbing propaganda. And yes, it isn't particularly well done propaganda either. Years from now it will just be the blue skinned alien 3-D movie. He is a technogeek, a personality-challenged film visionary who can't write his way out of a paper bag; at least not without ripping somebody off.
He loves the attention, though…
When you are helping push what the government wants to force on us as in their utopia agenda that harms instead of helps, I think it is our duty to tell this guy to grow up and start telling the truth. Or help us fight the government policies that are trying to be forced down our throats so he can make more of his fantasies for us to enjoy, there's a big difference there don't you think.
And an adult will know that it's perfectly appropriate to criticize the underlying message of entertainment despite its other aesthetic virtues, as it is with Leni Reifenstahl's work glorifying the Third Reich. And so it is with James Cameron's rather hypocritical "values" on display in Avatar.
Ann — simply brilliant. Could not agree more — AND I loved the film! Saw it with my daughter…and we both agreed — gorgeous, exciting, magical…lunacy. Ha ha… so sad that millions will see it, and unlike my daughter and myself, will actually buy all the anti-development, anti-modernity crap. Greenies are idiots.
a single hollywood elitist's ecological footprint is equivalent to hundreds of average peoples'. The guy has no idea how much energy and resources go into making the equipment to make his films and build his mansions, and he couldn't care less.
One more thing. It doesn't matter what you think about the quality of life in the rain forest. Ultimately, it's up to the people who live there to determine just how they will live.
"The people of the rain forest …have short lives of misery, disease and squalor."
No! You LIE! On Pandora, intestinal parasites are beautiful, glowing creatures which are honored by their hosts in moving ceremonies. Dysentery is like a waterfall of blue light. And when Navi teeth fall out, they sparkle and die and return to the Great Mother.
Actually, one of the hallmarks of being an adult is to be discriminating.
Why not change the name of this website to "allnewsaboutavatar.com" ?
Crying is what progressive wuss-jobs do when they can't refute an argument or challenge an article with a counter-argument.
Thank you, Ann!! You and Phelim are on the front lines and we're with you all the way!!
Now thats an ideal!
These attention-craving saddies- Cameron, the trolls here, Progs everywhere- were all spoiled rotten by the "greatest generation" who wanted them to have the best since they, the parents, had seen the worst. Those spoiled kids still want the best of everything, and they won't really work for it, and they'll get it at any expense, especially their grandkids'….
We are dealing with generation "zero", generation "ME!". Completely selfish, completely arrogant, and we wait for them to make an exit.
I bet he does know, because it all costs money. Besides, maybe you should do what you can to help him improve it.
there was a time when being discriminating (not the same as discriminatory) was a good thing
wow to live on pandora!
when I lived in Central America and got dysentary and Dengue it was nothing like that!
No wonder people lament that Earth is nothing like the paradise that Cameron dreamt.
There can be a big difference between fact and fiction, but not necessarily.
You'd have a point, except Scarface, Goodfellas, and the Godfather movies are all made for ADULTS and are in no way a danger to impressionable 13-year-olds in the classroom setting.
Avatar, on the other hand, is a propaganda tool through and through. The whole PURPOSE is to turn people against mining and against lifting impoverished nations out of their squalor.
In short, the same foolish professors still teaching the now outdated and debunked 'Silent Spring' by the unprosecuted mass-murdering Rachel Carson are the same oafs who will spring (no pun intended) this beautiful, foolhardy movie on the soon-to-be politicized minds of our children.
What do you call this article and a great deal of articles on this site dealing with Avatar? Sounds like crying to me.
I respect the work done by this author. Both in this article here, but in her other professional works as well. The Natural Resources industry, my industry certainly needs more advocates like this author. Thank you.
Somebody get this ho a tissue. And something shiny to keep her busy. MIning? Really? So if huge oil deposits were found beneath the city of Dallas, the author and conservatives alike would be fine with destroying the city to get to the oil? Thats the analogy here. In this FICTIONAL movie the mining corporation needs to destroy the Na'vi city to access the mineral. Apparently that is consistent with conservative values… Is it? Put this lady in the cage with Beck. I don't know how conservatives aren't embarrassed by articles like this. Grow up indeed.
can't disagree with you there, friend…
The job of Big Hollywood is to report on Hollywood's blatant anti-American and anti-human propaganda efforts inserted again and again into its 'product'.
Big Hollywood does its job – with a vengeance.
it is our take that the VAST majority will go for the bling and leave with little memory of the plot.
Like almost all of Cameron's work…
Rather than mind numbing propaganda, I found it to be cheesy and annoying. It will always be a blockbuster film, not because of the overt messages and political references, but because of the technology it uses and it is very entertaining. The story is great, but not told very well. As you say: "can't write his way out of a paper bag".
After the dozens of articles here whining about the movie, and now having actually seen it, I'm more convinced conservatives are crybaby morons who box everything into political definitions so its easy to determine whether "it" is us or them. Infantile.
You don't find anything remotely ironic about using high-tech, obtained through "wounding the earth", to criticize "wounding the earth"?? It's like the 60's again, when the smelly hippies [ :^) ] would rail against the "man" while playing their top-end Les Paul through their $100 K sound system; sell a couple of thousand T-shirts, then get on their chartered jet to the next love-in.
Ann, being an Illiberal/Regressive/Secular-statist means never having to say "I've grown up" and when you are your own god, you never have to be apologetic about anything.
It's bad enough when they have wussbags playing action heros, and they expect you to suspend disbelief.
How did you pass grade school, David? Remember how the REAL first question was NAME:____ and if you didn't answer it, you flunked the rest of the test?
Line one of this article reads: "I thought Avatar was a great film, beautiful even." Your personal hatred of conservatives has blinded you. NO ONE is crying about "AVATAR." We're griping about the ultimate liberal hypocrisy of using state of the art technology and access to resources in order to whine about how evil those tools are.
Your computer is made out of petroleum products, generates a carbon footprint, and radiates a ton of heat, David. If you truly thought all those things are evil, get off the internet. You're killing the planet.
You're no better than Gore, Cameron, or PETA with their leather belts and shoes. Go be a cave man and live in the hills if you think that's best. Just quit telling us how to live. You sound like an abortion protester when you do that.
Perhaps it escaped your notice but the site's name is Big HOLLYWOOD. It's a conservative forum for discussing movies and entertainment primarily. Of course the biggest movie, and one that carries a political message will be discussed at length. Duh.
One of the hallmarks of being an adult is reading comprehension and a grasp of the obvious.
Fictional, right?
Why is it so hard for conservatives to accept this movie is fiction? Why does the ideological message need a fictional movie to give it traction?
Racist! Oh, yeah, the movie. 'Sorry. Knee-jerk thing.
Um, Dallas is inhabited by human beings, nor furry alien Smurfcats.
I'm treating "Avavtar" like I treated "Star Wars" –
I'll see it many years from now, if ever – and wonder what all the hullabaloo was all about.
I savvy fiction.
Do you savvy reality?
I can look through the niceties of the Hollywood screen and see the idealogoues putting forth their warped, twisted agenda's. Whether they be slick pompous James Cameron, fat slovenly Michael Moore, or psycophantic Oliver Stone, the message is the same. Youse people, you dumb bastards, member of the great unwashed need to curb your carbon footprints and do without, so we can ride our jets in style. Don't believe me? Just go ask Al Gore.
It is time all those phoney, hypocritical sumbitches go the way of the teamsters mule………
"Dysentery is like a waterfall of blue light."
I hear that will be a brand new performance art piece done live on stage in new york by yet another transvestite cross dresser with Susan Sarandon in the front row hoping to get dysenteried on and then wiped clean by handsome stage assistants.
At least Star Wars wasn't hateful.
So the hallmark of being an adult is not standing up for yourself?
Not standing up for quality?
Godfather may be about criminals, but it has things like character development that Avatar can't even dream about.
I'm willing to bet Mr. Ignore that you were one of those who called An American Carol 'mean-spirited', The Dark Knight 'over-rated', and Passion of the Christ 'masochistic'.
The environmentalist wing nuts have killed more humans than Hitler. The fake campaign against DDT condemned millions of children to death when the campaign led to a banning of the chemical 30 years ago. The DDT campaign had the same religious overtones as the Global Warming Alarmist of today.
BBC Excerpt:
The World Health Organization (WHO) has reversed a 30-year policy by endorsing the use of DDT for malaria control.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5350068...
Poorly developed studies like we see with the Global Warming Alarmist led to the destruction of millions of families.
BBC Excerpt:
WHO says there is no health risk, and DDT should rank with bednets and drugs as a tool for combating malaria, which kills more than one million each year.
The environmental movement has become the equivalent of a religious crusade. If you disagree with them you are no better than those who deny the holocaust. The Climategate scandal has focused the attention of the public on the shortcomings within their argument.
Ya, it turned out that I really liked "Star Wars" when I saw it in the mid 80's. Basically it was "Cowboys and Indians" in space,
I didn't rush to see it in '77 because I was a bit of a contrarian, all were rushing TO it, so I resisted. Good flick and I enjoyed the sequels too.
I"m a conservative, but it is funny to see how some of you want to demonize be as being liberal because I don't support the hand wringing whining being done by this site with regard to Avatar. If you don't like a film, why give more power and attention to it than what is needed? I guess it is too much for me to expect someone like you to understand that actual reasoning, judging from your post, critical thinking doesn't seem to be one of your strengths.
" Technically, it could mean all mining, or realistically it could mean mining that goes beyond the standard of responsible conduct (ie. leaching, mountain top removal, strip mining)"
Tell me,(and ordinarily I never ask what someone does, as it is none of my business) but in this particular case it is. What exactly do you do? What is your field, your profession? For before you can unabashedly attack an entire industry, my industry, you cannot do so without allowing me to reciprocate and find fault with yours.
For you to make this statement:
" I would hope everyone also accepts the point things like mountain top removal and leaching are a net negative."
Shows how ignorant you really are.
When did I say you can't stand up for yourself?
When did I say you should not stand up for quality?
The fact is this article does nothing but whine about James Cameron being a hypocrite, well guess what, 99% of actors and actresses in Hollywood are hypocrites, the same for directors and producers. Next article should be about how the sky is blue.
The Godfather was about thugs, and it seemed to me to glamorize and "the old timer" mob bosses, instead of condemning them as murders and crooks. Its funny though when it comes to a classic movie we can skip over that actual plot and talk about character and all the other fluff, but with Avatar we can't overlook the ridiculous plot and just enjoy the show.
As for American Carol, it was worse than "mean-spirited" it wasn't funny, it failed to entertain. The Dark Knight is overrated. Passion of the Christ was beautifully shot recreation of the actual event.
I think that site already exists. Did you type it into your browser?
try allnewsaboutavatar.org as well. Just a suggestion.
He should try stapping on some balls and being a man.
So, Jeffro, you consider yourself a man-child? According to your post, "that's all that's left." Are you the exception?
And are you waiting for the women to take care of all our problems. Who? Nancy Pelosi? Barbara Boxer? Mary Landrieu? Maxine Waters? Who?
Yeah, its fun rooting for one crime family over the other, a drug dealer/money launderer over a murderer, and once group of Cuban drug dealing murderers over another group of drug dealing murderers right?
Fact is those movies popularized and glamourized crime, but we rightfully overlook that because the movies are entertaining and well put together, why can't the same be done for Avatar?
cameron is just doing what the liberal American haters do – have contempt for whites, America, freedom, everyone else's wealth and everyone else's freedom………..
Yes and hunter/gathering could prove to be an interesting challenge, it doesn't necessarily have to be a nightmare.
I call them Facts.
Now show the Facts in your argument.
Each of those Na'avi in Avatar were 15 feet tall and ate meat. They would need to eat at least 12,000 calories a day just to survive being that big and athletic. Considering they had no knowledge of farming and that they were hunters, how many animals does one have to kill each day to feed their tribe?
The answer can be calculated like this.
If meat was their main source of food, divide 12000 calories by 4 to arrive at 3000 grams of protein a day.
There are at most 30 grams of protein for each 100 grams of meat. That means each Navi would neat to eat at least 10kg of meat a day.
The film showed they had a population of about 1000. That means 10,000 kilos of meat (equal to about 200 average sized animals) consumed daily by a relatively small tribe. That's about 1400 jungle animals a week!
Without farming and animal domestication/breeding every animal in the jungle would have become extinct very quickly.
So much for this eco paradise! The Na'vi are nature destroyers more than any other species could ever try to be!
I'm with you Jamesb, I'm still waiting to see Titanic.
My argument is that you ignore things you have no interest in seeing succeed. Check mainstream media's stance on ACORN scandal.
And we have the right to say it is a poorly written, thinly veiled excuse for a pro green movement movie.
Ferngully was terrible, as was Pocahontas and the Last Samurai. I have talked about how factually incorrect the Last Samurai was on several blof and movie sites.
Your opinion again on The Dark Knight is just that, your opinion and not shared by all the people who have hailed it and the very few who criticize it, namely Liberal reviewers.
The difference is that Avatar is blatant anti-American trash.
Crime movies of all stripes show anarchists doing their thing, and sometimes when they're well made, it's entertaining, bringing us into their empires, and their life-and-death power struggles.
Avatar was just a special-effects vehicle that threw America under the bus repeatedly. I regret falling for the "you gotta see the visuals" stupidity and giving this Canadian anti-American scumbag my money, just so he could trash my country.
F-ck James Cameron and Avatar.
Poorly written fiction. Cameron can't even envision that technology that could create cloned life and travel light years across the universe couldn't mine under a village without disturbing the area above. That is how simplistic and unoriginal you AND Cameron are.
eh, saw it on tv – eventually.(spoiler alert! the boat SINKS at the end! :-p)
(that was a joke or a cartoon I saw, the Gen Xers in the movie line get disguted when the middle agers speculate how will the filmakers "handle" the sinking of Titanic at the end)
Seems to me he was trashing humanity, not just any country. On top of that, if you weren't entertained, I can see your reason for hating it, but my point was in response to the author of the thread, who keeps beating a dead horse with the daily taking a crap on Avatar that seems to have become this blogs specialty.
Mainstream media that all but ignored it… that's why the Bigs were founded: to report on stuff the MSM doesn't have the cojones to touch.
Arnold – stop blowing up 'eco-fantasy' with SCIENCE! Remember – we can NEVER question SCIENCE – ask any eco-scamer – case closed…
for instance – the "Antropogenic Global Warming/ Man Made Climate Change " science is SETTLED!
Don't muss the hair of the litle eco-dweebs – it annoys them!
Then why are you wasting your time whining about my post and giving it more power? Your title bar says "Big Hollywood." God forbid they should go on and on about a movie or it's director. If you don't want to discuss movies and politics, there are many fine sites like Big Government or Big Journalism you could be posting on. Next you'll be lecturing Matt Drudge on his obsession with news sites.
If you think Avatar was NOT trashing America – and repeatedly – I don't know what movie YOU saw in the theater.
Big Hollywood's job is to report, expose and combat Hollywood's never-ending agenda of anti-Americanism propaganda in its 'product'.
Big Hollywood does its job – with a vengeance.
Why do progressives always use derogatory epithets for those with opinions different from their own? Immature,childish and intellectually dishonest. If you have deep psychological issues, please don't post with the gownups.
Liberalism doesn't encourage growing up or the acceptance of reality.
…it's a movie people. Take from it what you will but please lets not take it too far. Personally, despite my political or social beliefs, I would still like to enjoy going to the movies without everything becoming a statement. I suggest you do the same, you might get a little more enjoyment out of it.
I know and I support the Bigs for that reason, but I'm sure you get my point. Why feed the troll? If Avatar is so terrible to society, why keep giving the movie and Cameron more free press.
Yes my title bar says Big Hollywood, what is your point though? I am discussing movies. I would suggest next time have a point if you are trying to belittle and insult a person, or at least read their posts before you respond.
Speaking of mining. I wonder how much gold he has in his watch and other jewelry. Don't forget about any diamonds or precious stones in that jewelry. No, the lessons he preaches about are only for us little people to learn and obey.
So basically you're with Obama when he says that if we don't agree with something we should just shut-up. If you don't have any interest in this article why did you read it? According to your own beliefs you shouldn't be commenting here crying.
I think Cameron was bashing all developed nations not just America, but to me it doesn't really matter. I thought the cool Col. was the best character in the movie and
*Spoiler Alert*
He died.
I know what Big Hollywood's job is, but this isn't a report, this is an opinion piece on why Cameron is a hypocrite, and this subject has been beaten to the ground on this blog. There usually comes a point where you have to move on to something relevant and stop jumping on the bash Avatar bandwagon, simply because the movie was such a success.
well, we thought it to be mind numbing, particularly the last 20 minutes or so. Interminable, it was.
Yes, the blockbuster thing will always be there- and it will be a benchmark for future success both financially and technically.
But no one will remember the politics. We agree there has been overkill on this by the conservatives, and they need bigger fish to fry than this…
Now I'm with "evil Obama".
No I"m not with Obama, I'm with David_TheMan, when I say that you don't help your cause by whining about a movie, a work of fiction, on the grounds that it is real. Yeah James Cameron is a hypocrite, who in Hollywood isn't. If you don't want to see the movie don't see it. If you don't want to support the movie, don't make a post about the movie everyday, giving it free press.
Cameron is not a hypocrite as he is not suggesting everybody revert to living in the forest and resort to hunting, gathering and eating bugs. He is just suggesting that the common man do this so the elite will not have to worry about depleted resources that they have a right to due to intellectual and moral superiority. No hypocrisy at all if you understand the real message.
This blog's purpose, after all, is combat on the front lines of the culture war, Hollywood in particular. Avatar, as has been pointed out far too many times already, is a massive worldwide hit, hence the responsibility to study it and counter any potentially deleterious effects the film may have in terms of human rights. If you're claim to conservatism is genuine, then it's difficult to understand why you're spending so much time complaining about this woman and her well-founded skepticism concerning Mr Cameron's motivations.
Playing the Avatar game is fun. You get to kill lots and lots of Navi….
Have you seen her documentary, Not Evil Just Wrong? The McElhinney's driving motivation is nothing short of unbridled opposition to the radical environmentalist movement on the basis of its inherently negative effect on the world's least-developed countries. To reiterate, 'Silent Spring' spread erroneous information claiming extreme danger to the environment presented by DDT, which, for the record, annihilated malaria in the United States. It was only after that job was done that measures were taken by the WHO to curb the use of DDT in countries of the so-called 'Global South.' We're now several million African victims later, largely children in what should have been the dawn of their lives, and the WHO is now officially supportive of the use of DDT in combating the continued spread of malaria and related diseases.
I can understand that you think we're being petty by ranting about Cameron's hypocrisy, but believe me when I tell you that this is not just about conservative antagonism towards the 'Greenies." What is really at issue here is the God-given right to life, which is denied by misguided radical environmentalism seeking to protect the environment from an imagined threat.
You disagree? Fine! More power to you! The people on this board are prepared to fight for your right to do so! But you have no tangible basis on which to claim that Ann McElhinney or her associates are being petty in expressing a pertinent opinion.
If they were offered his life for them and their family over their own, what do you think they would choose? What do you think he would choose given the same choice? Actually we know what he would choose because he has the choice. He also has the choice to live in a much less ostentatious manner and lessen he carbon footprint, but he doesn't.
Man, a whole lot of chatter over a remake of Dances with Wolves featuring blue people and special effects.
You would have a point if Avatar was made with the intent to be a blueprint for what to do in America or on Earth with regards to industrialization. The fact is that Avatar is taken as a movie that serves towards entertaining, not informing or enlightening. This is what I don't get, there are legit books and documentaries, to target but instead she takes the low hanging fruit of a blockbuster movie to aim at. That is foolish to me, it does a discredit to your actually relevant and just argument.
When does the Leftist / Democrat / Hollywood / Main Stream Media Industrial Complex give US a break and NOT hammer US for once?
Why do they have to insert into EVERY movie they make that conservatives are bad and liberals / progressives are good?
That Americans are mostly evil and stupid, Europeans are refined and intelligent, and primitives are pure and holy?
Sarah Palin stepped down as Governor of Alaska LAST YEAR.
Why can't I get through ONE WEEK without reading another 'Sarah Palin is stupid and inhuman' story in the MSM – again?
Why can't THEY give US a break?
Why should Big Hollywood give THEM a break?
hallelujah, brother…
You give Cameron too much credit. While Avatar was visually beautiful, the story was full of plot holes and one dimensional characters.
*So we can travel light years through space, project our consciousness into another body, but we can't slant drill under a tree?
*I'd be willing to bet that the only people who were surprised by the military attacking the N'avi at the end are the only people who would be surprised to learn that Obama is continuing Bush's policies in the Middle East (and probably don't even realize it)
*So I'm supposed to believe that we would find intelligent life on another planet and immediately try to kill it?
*The "corporate guy" wanted to kill the N'avi because he's a corporate guy and wants to make money and doesn't care about other people, just like all corporate guys
*The "military guy" wanted to kill the N'ave because he's a military guy and likes killing stuff just like all military guys
I'd like to think that if I spend 15 years on a story, it would have a little more depth than that and have borrowed a little less from Pocahontas and Dances With Wolves.
Ban Mining! Let the bastards freeze in the dark!
Thats what I thought too- can't they find a way to let the tree stand and still extract the mineral? In the future no less. But alas, that would deflate the conflict and thus the driving force of the movie. Its fiction so we have to overlook little inconsistencies to reality like that. It can be annoying, but it takes a real dolt to write an actual complaint article (like the dozens published on BH) about it.
Well I guess that's the most we can agree on for now…
Pals?
I didn't see the movie, I lost patience with Cameron after, during Terminator 2.
You sound like someone looking for a fight. Didn't like what I said? My intent was mainly just to make an observation. 'Sorry you didn't like it. Tell me why I''m wrong rather than looking for a reason to be insulting.
How many hippies were the spoiled children of middle class/upper middle class parents who worked and saved – most. Most hippies/hippy protests, etc. were college-educated/in college at the time. Lower middle class, blue collar folks would kick those entitled brats' asses. Hippies may not have been rich, but they were certainly NOT, as a movement, at the lower echelons of society.
I think you meant to say racist, oppressive,West-European whites with guns and native, innately nobler, oppressed, people at one with the environment… in space.
"Sorry you didn't like what I said–don't be so thin-skinned.
er, ya – that]s exactly what I meant -. those wascally europweans!
inventing nearly everything modern and nearly single handedly dragging mankind out of the Stone Age
All fiction means nothing? All authors of fiction have nothing to impart, other than a story, plain and simple? Subtext is just something that readers put in by themselves to make fictional stories more substantive? Is that what your point is? Really?
You can always stick to fluff sites if you don't like to discuss subtext.
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